AI is best used to 'get you started', where then a human can take over a little closer to their goal; boiler plate stuff. You are exactly right that they are using it wrong to not allow you to tweak the 'black box' controls.
Sounds like a subtle bit of transient along with - maybe (?) - a tiny amount of excitement . . . the sort of thing you could do 10 years ago with a $29 plugin.
I'm very skeptical of the term "AI" nowadays. quite often software could use some pretty old algorithms and formulas that have been around for years but now it's labelled as "AI" and it's not even machine learning. it's just a corporate buzzword
This is just a thought, I haven't tried this plugin but from what I saw in the beginning when the text was being read, my take on this is that this is to be used on single tracks (to help a certain instrument cut through the mix), not on THE whole mix. I think the reason why nothing much is being achieved here is because nothing in particular is being process against the rest of the mix if it makes sense
I don't know, this just feels like a useless plugin. It adds attack, ok great but you can do that with a transient designer, that will also do the same amount every time rather than it being too dynamic with AI.
Phew! I downloaded and tried the trial last week and had exactly the same responses as you. I wondered whether I had missed something, but now feel totally vindicated for giving this one a miss. Thanks for the great content, as always!
To be fair, a plug-in wich is apparently designed to help certain tracks cut through the mix shouldn’t do much to nothing on a full mix. So this “review” doesn’t make any sense, but it’s a “AI” plug-in and therefore should burn in hell anyways.
I agree entirely with you regarding the fundamental problem of AI plugins in music: they are not creative, they merely push towards the average (generic).
I don't know if the UA-cam algorithms are mucking about with things, and I don't know if YOU can hear any effect at all at your end, which is the source. But here on a Mac running into a pair of Bose speakers I couldn't hear ANY effect at all. Seems to be a completely useless plugin, AI or no AI.
Dear Techivation, for us music producers, your products are great. Just excellent plugins. They are very complementary to our production workflow, keeping us in that creative flow. Thank you! Maybe moving forward, don't send your products for review to mixing engineers. I just think there's a disconnect there. 😆
Great video, as always. I was wondering, did you ever made a video about T-Racks 5 Mastering Suite? If the answer is yes, can you please give me the link? Thank you.
I like that assistive AI can help me make progress faster, but if a plugin gives me no controls to tweak the sound, it feels like the AI is making those creative decisions, not me as the producer. Great video as usual, Wytse!
i managed to get techivation compressor (or was it limiter? looooong time ago) to self-oscillate into somekind of flux and distortion... maybe it was calling mars. dunno, skipped them all since. kind of.. i have no idea.
Thanks to this channel, I learned how 90% of plugins are BS. I recommend everyone listen for the basics like eq filters , compression and saturation before they buy a plugin, use plugin doctor and see what it actually does to the sound. For this video...All I heard was a slight bit of compression and saturation.
Sonible is the best one. I purchased their EQ and compressor and waiting for prices to drop on their reverb. People seriously need to consider Sonbile lineup. (And they don't pay or sponsor me to say that). They have good products people should seriously consider.
well it's nice to have a subtle plugin for once. But to my ears this one is just an envelope follower / transient modulator. I don't see any AI here. A non-neural algorithm can learn and operate like this. NEXT
Hello ! It lacks the compensation of gain to have a precise idea of what this plugin can bring. I have the impression that they make the same plugins in manual version without machine learning
Downloaded it, tried it and deleted it because it's not worth the money they want. These singles always come as a gift when purchasing the plugin. The problem is that there are no tools to work out the signal. It's kind of like Sonble-Pure, but even Pure has a couple of tools to work through. There's nothing in this.
The comparison is a bit unfair, Sonible was fed with a ‘complete track’, the competitor ‘only’ with drums. Nevertheless, I agree with your assessment! The software is not worth its price, if it were donationware, you could talk about it. Gold-rush atmosphere ...
I'm 'old school' (1980s) and back then it was a good ear and skill that made good recordings, not "This Plugin Will Make Your Crap Sound Amazing!" BS. I like your approach - this plugin didn't do anything of value for you so it rightly belongs in the garbage, like many others, and more to come. The Sonible plugin, while clearly better, still only might have done what a skilled engineer would do. I use AI daily, but carefully, and I agree that it runs the risk of removing the need to listen, try your own ideas, learn, and actually work on becoming a good engineer. Such a loss of skill for the AI generation would be tragic, and - yes - everything will sound the same!
I don't understand; if it does too much no one likes the plugin and if it's too subtle a bunch of people pop off saying it's useless. The fact that it's not over doing it is good!
I would not call it AI at all. And what should "machine learnig" be meaning!? All a machine can do is collecting data. It can not learn a thing. ;-) As you said AI is not experimenting or trying thing out.... BTW the term AI is not working to make me wanna buy a thing...it is only keeping me away from it. I don't want to be made "useless" or told my ears were wrong. ;-)
I'm getting tired of these scammy plugins that just use the term AI to sell it.
It doesn't seem scammy, it is exactly what it says. It uses machine learning to add "impact" which is some sort of transient design and clipping.
It's machine learning more precisely
@@Jazzguitar00 just without a model or any connection to a server. Seems very sus
machine learning is not true 'AI'.
@@Sylvain_de_Boscherville how could it be machine learning? its not connected to a network sending and receiving data.
I have AI fatigue
I don't. I am still able to despise these with full strength.
It's amazing how fast the marketers were able to completely exhaust the term AI. It's such a gimmicky term!
I can't believe you bought a shirt with Darude- Sandstorm on it
AI is best used to 'get you started', where then a human can take over a little closer to their goal; boiler plate stuff. You are exactly right that they are using it wrong to not allow you to tweak the 'black box' controls.
Sounds like a subtle bit of transient along with - maybe (?) - a tiny amount of excitement . . . the sort of thing you could do 10 years ago with a $29 plugin.
I'm very skeptical of the term "AI" nowadays. quite often software could use some pretty old algorithms and formulas that have been around for years but now it's labelled as "AI" and it's not even machine learning. it's just a corporate buzzword
Shouldn’t this plugin be used on a single track to let it pop out? Doesn’t sound useful as a mastering plugin.
It's a bit crazy that plugins like this are still being made. Thanks for the exposé man!
This is just a thought, I haven't tried this plugin but from what I saw in the beginning when the text was being read, my take on this is that this is to be used on single tracks (to help a certain instrument cut through the mix), not on THE whole mix. I think the reason why nothing much is being achieved here is because nothing in particular is being process against the rest of the mix if it makes sense
1:37 I DEADASS felt this. Died from laughter
I don't know, this just feels like a useless plugin. It adds attack, ok great but you can do that with a transient designer, that will also do the same amount every time rather than it being too dynamic with AI.
Even if you think no one will watch it sometimes you’d be surprised. If you’re enjoying it and have fun with it that’s what matters
Phew! I downloaded and tried the trial last week and had exactly the same responses as you. I wondered whether I had missed something, but now feel totally vindicated for giving this one a miss. Thanks for the great content, as always!
I was listening on a bad TV. Absolutely nothing was happening for me LOL. No idea what was going on then. :)
You're not missing anything, even on HD650s it's not much.
To be fair, a plug-in wich is apparently designed to help certain tracks cut through the mix shouldn’t do much to nothing on a full mix. So this “review” doesn’t make any sense, but it’s a “AI” plug-in and therefore should burn in hell anyways.
I agree entirely with you regarding the fundamental problem of AI plugins in music: they are not creative, they merely push towards the average (generic).
Please make a video about your favorite plugins
Should be called 0-Impactor!
I don't know if the UA-cam algorithms are mucking about with things, and I don't know if YOU can hear any effect at all at your end, which is the source. But here on a Mac running into a pair of Bose speakers I couldn't hear ANY effect at all. Seems to be a completely useless plugin, AI or no AI.
So, a Transient Shaper with AI in the name?
Dear Techivation, for us music producers, your products are great. Just excellent plugins. They are very complementary to our production workflow, keeping us in that creative flow. Thank you! Maybe moving forward, don't send your products for review to mixing engineers. I just think there's a disconnect there. 😆
Yep, you sound pretty disconnected!
Try putting 10 in series 🤣
Hahah I would love to see this actually. Would be too funny.
Is that the Jaws theme on your shirt???😊😊😊
No, it's Darude- Sandstorm
@@sorenandrews1078 🤣🤣🤣
As a professional - no, I wouldn't use it.
Maybe you should compare it with the more simple sonible pure:EQ where you also have not much to play with.
Can it be that your video sound is phasing? Did you cut the camera and microphone audio together ?
Great video, as always. I was wondering, did you ever made a video about T-Racks 5 Mastering Suite? If the answer is yes, can you please give me the link? Thank you.
These plugins do what they say. AI Clarity does a great job and is often much more natural than Soothe or the like.
Why not just use literally any air windows plugin that does distortion or transient stuff, at least theyre free and you can push them to extremes
I would have liked to see some peak meter comparisons. Is it just raising transient volume or transients with clipping?
I think moving the Impact slider less frequent might have got you somewhere 😂
I like that assistive AI can help me make progress faster, but if a plugin gives me no controls to tweak the sound, it feels like the AI is making those creative decisions, not me as the producer. Great video as usual, Wytse!
i managed to get techivation compressor (or was it limiter? looooong time ago) to self-oscillate into somekind of flux and distortion... maybe it was calling mars. dunno, skipped them all since. kind of.. i have no idea.
Sound like it had become sentient, and was trying to communicate with other plugins in preparation for the great compressor uprising.
Most definitly KLOTEEE😂
90USD? for that? damn Inflation i guess
I’m so tired about the word “Ai” being the flavor of the month. Literally now everybody says bla bla bla product now with “Ai” 🤦🏻
exactly, my vision turns red when I see this term being (mis)used at this point
If they were geniuses and called it, "a.i. lo-fi", I'd automatically buy with no review watching. Thank goodness they're not that smart!
Techivation plugins are all amazing!! 🔥
Shill.
Thanks to this channel, I learned how 90% of plugins are BS. I recommend everyone listen for the basics like eq filters , compression and saturation before they buy a plugin, use plugin doctor and see what it actually does to the sound. For this video...All I heard was a slight bit of compression and saturation.
Sonible is the best one. I purchased their EQ and compressor and waiting for prices to drop on their reverb.
People seriously need to consider Sonbile lineup. (And they don't pay or sponsor me to say that). They have good products people should seriously consider.
well it's nice to have a subtle plugin for once. But to my ears this one is just an envelope follower / transient modulator. I don't see any AI here. A non-neural algorithm can learn and operate like this. NEXT
Hello !
It lacks the compensation of gain to have a precise idea of what this plugin can bring.
I have the impression that they make the same plugins in manual version without machine learning
Might as well play The Boy and His Blob soundtrack!
this seems like it doesn't need any ai and could just be a transient control plugin
White Sea Studio now plays a sound track from Dragon Warrior 3...
Downloaded it, tried it and deleted it because it's not worth the money they want. These singles always come as a gift when purchasing the plugin. The problem is that there are no tools to work out the signal. It's kind of like Sonble-Pure, but even Pure has a couple of tools to work through. There's nothing in this.
Definitely snake oil!
Sonible is amazing
The comparison is a bit unfair, Sonible was fed with a ‘complete track’, the competitor ‘only’ with drums.
Nevertheless, I agree with your assessment!
The software is not worth its price, if it were donationware, you could talk about it.
Gold-rush atmosphere ...
As long A.I. doesnt pay me i try not to mention it
So, a plugin that does nothing. I hope all AI is like this.
Where is the Lewitt??
Hello from Ukraine.
Where he get the tracks? From Nintendo games?
It’s a nothing plug-in
We shouldn't stop listening to the music for the sake of letting AI's do it .. And we should stop listening to AI's, instead.
noooooo noooooo not need it !°
How to make drums louder in the mix dont using drum bus fader? Just use AI on master! 😊
It's a thumbs down for me
I'm 'old school' (1980s) and back then it was a good ear and skill that made good recordings, not "This Plugin Will Make Your Crap Sound Amazing!" BS. I like your approach - this plugin didn't do anything of value for you so it rightly belongs in the garbage, like many others, and more to come. The Sonible plugin, while clearly better, still only might have done what a skilled engineer would do. I use AI daily, but carefully, and I agree that it runs the risk of removing the need to listen, try your own ideas, learn, and actually work on becoming a good engineer. Such a loss of skill for the AI generation would be tragic, and - yes - everything will sound the same!
Wow, that is amazing 🙄 AI my arse...
why u usinng a senheiser mk4 or maybe mk8 for your video`s now ?
Because I can
@@Whiteseastudio are you sick of lewitt now?😁😁😁
lol
What mic are you using today?
Sennheiser MK4
@@narrator-timothymckean thought so. Thought Lewitt had dibs
This plugin sucks balls
I don't understand; if it does too much no one likes the plugin and if it's too subtle a bunch of people pop off saying it's useless. The fact that it's not over doing it is good!
Of course you can sell most of your plugins. People should read more....
You're not a sonible fanboy, you're not a lewitt fanboy... but I have the suspicion that you're an Austria fanboy 😜🇦🇹
Keep supporting A.I., you won't have a job in the future
Useless and therefore overpriced
Dud.
I would not call it AI at all. And what should "machine learnig" be meaning!? All a machine can do is collecting data. It can not learn a thing. ;-) As you said AI is not experimenting or trying thing out....
BTW the term AI is not working to make me wanna buy a thing...it is only keeping me away from it. I don't want to be made "useless" or told my ears were wrong. ;-)
AI is becoming a bandwagon that everyone is jumping on. AI created by non AI? I am laughing my head off, lol.
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lets make music stop waisting time on this.. you killed the plugin game.. lets go further