@@stefanoputignano1555 *Dwarf points and laughs at the chicken scratch (or in this case eagle scratch) of the bird, which only leads to more angry screeching and more scratching on the rock for mocking its ability to write*
Wait til they come up with naming them let's say "y'egulls" and sue eberybody who includes giant eagles in a fantasy setting without compensating them big times 😅
I'm imagining Gotrek taking on a personal mission to wipe out the Great Eagles, reasoning that if this doesn't get him killed, nothing will. Actually, now that I think about it, a Slayer Crusade would have been amazing. Imagine a scenario where Ungrim Ironfist issues a call to arms for every Slayer in the Warhammer World to gather at the Slayer Keep. From there he organizes them into an army and marches out at the head of them proclaiming that they are going to exterminate every last enemy of Dwarf Kind or die trying.
Suicide is the cowards way out you know. The whole point is to take on something you can feasibly accomplish even if it is highly unlikely and then sell your life dearly with honour. Going about it with the intent to make the task impossible will not absolve the slayer. They must pursue the task with the intent to win, and then hopefully die in the attempt. Otherwise there wouldn't be any slayers if all you need is to wander into the badlands and stumble into an orc camp to die honourably.
"Follow me lads!! The great book isn't going to wipe itself clean, and the worst things in world have places of hate on our list!! If this isn't a worthy death then nothing will be!!"
@@konradcurze939 Gotrek: So that's the Badlands, Sylvania, and Skavenblight cleared out. Ulthuan next? Ungrim: I promised the humans we'd save them for last.
Don´t you mean thieves at the finest? And they have the nerve to accuse others for stealing from them. How they even can say that with a straight face is beyond me.
Funny that the Warhammer version of the Great Eagles are immune to Chaos Corruption, whereas the original Lord of the Rings Great Eagles were at risk of turning evil if they got close to the One Ring due to their natural pride (which is why they didn't help carry the ring to Mordor).
No. The Great Eagles didn't help carry the Ring to Mordor because Sauron had his own airforce with the Flying Fell Beasts. The Eagles would have been spotted and hunted down. The Fellowship needed to sneak the ring into Mordor without being noticed.
I am unsurprised by a bird's lack of understanding when it comes to the minutest of details of hierarchy and taxes. I do however completely understand why it would pity us for subjecting ourselves to such things in many situations Edit: just realized how this might sound and no I am not saying all taxes are theft or something like that, what I am saying is all that the bird will see is someone taking your stuff and be confused that you don't treat it as extortion
Taxation is theft. However, the point of it is ultimately to prevent less predictable and more violent theft. That's the social contract with your government.
8:34 I can literally imagine dwarves taking one of these eagles out and slow cooking it and out open field. Just so the eagles can smell then see their comrade being spit roasted.
Intelligent Giant Eagles. Completely Lord of the Rings based but still really cool. Just give them a Wood Elf with a bow and they basically became combat helicopters. God Bless Athel Loran!
PoV: elf Vietnam has had it up to here with your shit and has decided that they're not going to wait for you to come back into the forest before they try to murder you
117 years ago Henry Osborne gave a name to the most awesome Predator to walk the earth, I would like to wish everyone a Happy Tyrannosaurus Rex day! To celebrate I'm eating a huge rare rib-eye steak for lunch!
@@VictorianTimeTraveler don’t blame you, I’d go one further and say that the 20mm rifle and some of the antitank rifles of ww1 would be better fit for the task imo Short of that a rpg or a antitank recoilless rifle would be ideal, one attached to a truck. We making it our the prehistoric Middle East with this one.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus it's all about shot placement. Really you can take down anything with a 30-06, or similar. You can slaughter a cow with a .22 at point blank with exact shot placement. the point of a Big Bore overpowered round is in case of something charges you unexpectedly from the brush. I have some friends in South Africa that would tell you something along those lines. (that probably doesn't actually apply to something as large as a Mega theropod. We really have no frame of reference for an animal like that)
@@VictorianTimeTraveler that’s funny, my family has worked in the Ivory Coast for a couple generations now, my grand father worked with Rhodesia and South Africa in the bush war when He was young, small world. Yeah shot placement matters but if I am in a era of time I don’t understand where nothing is on my side and I have no supply chain I want the biggest round I can get to fire for monsters that size. I highly doubt I’ll get the drop on a creature like the T-Rex. Freakin lizard had feet like a cat so it can sneak up on you.
I recently got a bunch of these guys from someone who didn’t want his old high elf army and i took said army off his hands. I basically doubled my high elf army by getting that lot
I think they’re the reason dragons live in caves. The kinetic energy passed on from that sort of swoop would do some incredible internal injuries. Swoop a dragon, break a vertebrae & rip through the wings.
Arch your videos are pretty much always on my youtube. I particularly like videos where you get down to the nitty, gritty logistics or where you dig into less well know parts of wh40k and fantasy. Could I ask for more videos, like the one on 'Boarding Actions', where you choose an aspect of wh40k and then pick apart how the factions would tackle it? Or maybe a series based around the same idea, to really give you time to shine.
Yo Arch been subscribed to you for years, LONG before you had to change your name, but anyway, we need more " beasts of the old world " videos, only 7 is bordering on heresy, i know i know 40k gets the clicks with clicks come the dollars and this is your job, nothing wrong with that, but some more videos on the old world man, we love it. Keep up the good work, and thank you, this channel is amazing.
Okay, i am genuinely laughing out loud in meatspace because as big bird eat dwarf, so to does dwarf when able eat big bird. There's a sort of poetry there.
“With elevated intelligence comes racism,“ yes, yes it does. The smarter you are the easier it is to recognize date trends, correlation and causation; a la 13% 54%, per capita etc.
It sucks that age of sigmar does not have a world that feels as lived in as fantasy did. All of these animals and creatures, all in their own continents and ecosystems and it made sense. Not everything was just a monster or some silly fantasy critter
I don't know any AoS lore, but do peoples actually live, y'know, lives in Age of Sigmar? Are there governments and politics and intrigues, cities and states, industry and profession, bureaucracies and taxes and civilizations? Or is it just armies clashing?
@@angry_zergling from what little I’ve read in age of sigmar? It’s all just magic based space marines acting as advertisements. They should have ended it all like they did previously: by having a ork kick the ever chosen in the junk harder then anything has been kicked before in all of war hammer past present or future.
Hmm, would have been great to have their immunity against chaos in the Tabletop. Maybe they even had it before 5th Ed., but thats when I started. But having them immune to magic would have made them a great ride.
8:00 - The Dwarves have fought wars against each other, over the mere suggestion that their ale is a bit watery (e.g. like human beer) 8:50 - The Greenskins likely see them and go "Oh good, someone shoot 'dat down, I'm hungry!" Well, if they happen to feast on some bandit, no big deal, saves those hunting them down having to do that.
Dwarfs aren't quite that foolish in later editions. If only because they know their diminishing empire cannot allow such madness. Such a scenario would at worst end with bar brawl followed by infuriated scribbling.
There is a GW great eagles kit from the LOTR wargame (middle earth strategy battle game or something). Their lore is already taken from lotr, might as well take the miniatures too) Scale looks fitting and the models are made of modern quality GW plastic.
I would think that a lot of eagles would see grazing animals as part of a humans “hunting grounds”. a territory thing. Anyways, I like how there are a few “compromisable neutral” creatures in warhammer. They need proactive reasons to do things with tangible benefits to themselves. Otherwise they arent necessarily noble or dastardly by human standards, but function on their own internal logics. Like ogres. they can sometimes be dealt with by giving them food. But they aren’t particularly opposed to gobble up an “ally” here or there if they can get away with it.
Ironic how posessive GW is with their copyright, considering how flagrantly they violated other copyrighted works to build the foundation of their work.
It's a pity they never did armoured eagles. Convinceing an eagle to have metal claws and beak covers (improved weapons) and some armour plates should be easier than letting a heavy elf ride their backs. Especially Ithilmar.
To be honest I think I would eat a Great Eagle one day...if given the chance. If only I had received the help of the Eagles in regards to my old boss. Basically my old boss is the major reason why I am deaf and losing hearing consistently nowadays...
I wonder why it was doing that! That's a lot of energy to spend on something you can't eat. Confused you or something about you with something it could eat I guess? (saw your head and assumed it was a raccoon or something like that?)
Funny thing. In the coveted brains:body ratio. We are the smartest in mammals. Magpies are the smartest all up. Great eagles would have intelligence ≈ dragons imo
"With elevated intelligence comes racism."
The bird has in fact heard about the word and that word is: *discrimination*
In my new head cannon the original grudge between the Great Eagles and Dawi was a heated argument of who holds grudges better
"You think you can hold a grudge better than me? Ghats a grudging boy!"
“Angry bird screeching as the hawk use its talon to write this grudge on a rock”
@@stefanoputignano1555 *Dwarf points and laughs at the chicken scratch (or in this case eagle scratch) of the bird, which only leads to more angry screeching and more scratching on the rock for mocking its ability to write*
Would not surprise me
Great Eagles, one of the many reasons everytime i hear GW moaning about protecting their IP all I can do is laugh.
Wait til they come up with naming them let's say "y'egulls" and sue eberybody who includes giant eagles in a fantasy setting without compensating them big times 😅
The conflict of dwarfs and egales in warhammer is infact based on the English vs Seagulls.
There is no hatred greater than having your chips pilfered by a winged bastard that then just screams at you.
J. R. R. Tolkien called he wants GW to pay for the rights to the great eagles
Didn't Tolkien just lift them from Arabian Knights though?
In the sky, a mighty eagle/doesn't care 'bout what's illegal~
I'm imagining Gotrek taking on a personal mission to wipe out the Great Eagles, reasoning that if this doesn't get him killed, nothing will. Actually, now that I think about it, a Slayer Crusade would have been amazing. Imagine a scenario where Ungrim Ironfist issues a call to arms for every Slayer in the Warhammer World to gather at the Slayer Keep. From there he organizes them into an army and marches out at the head of them proclaiming that they are going to exterminate every last enemy of Dwarf Kind or die trying.
Suicide is the cowards way out you know. The whole point is to take on something you can feasibly accomplish even if it is highly unlikely and then sell your life dearly with honour. Going about it with the intent to make the task impossible will not absolve the slayer. They must pursue the task with the intent to win, and then hopefully die in the attempt. Otherwise there wouldn't be any slayers if all you need is to wander into the badlands and stumble into an orc camp to die honourably.
"Follow me lads!! The great book isn't going to wipe itself clean, and the worst things in world have places of hate on our list!! If this isn't a worthy death then nothing will be!!"
@MrEmiosk take the Great Book of Grudges and work their way through it one by on
@@konradcurze939 Gotrek: So that's the Badlands, Sylvania, and Skavenblight cleared out. Ulthuan next?
Ungrim: I promised the humans we'd save them for last.
@@Warrior-Of-Virtue don't forget the dawi zhar
Oh cool, we’re starting a Middle Earth lore series! That should have a lot of really interesting stuff to… oh. Oh, I see.
GW creativity at its finest.
Don´t you mean thieves at the finest? And they have the nerve to accuse others for stealing from them. How they even can say that with a straight face is beyond me.
@@dannythehonestgamer6051Oh, they don't. They just believe that they alone should be allowed to pilfer other people's work.
GW: We care about our brand originality.
Also GW: Copy and Paste Tolkien.
They'll just rename them Aegli or Aevians and try to copyright that.
I haven't seen it yet but I'm almost certain that there's a warrior of chaos named character who is just Sauron from the movies.
I called it the mag pie franchise in the shop to the staff
Or starwars abit
Definitely judge dread though I think that one is more of a fuck you at Wagner and grant
@@V.B.Squire if they complain mail them painting tutorials for blood ravens
Funny that the Warhammer version of the Great Eagles are immune to Chaos Corruption, whereas the original Lord of the Rings Great Eagles were at risk of turning evil if they got close to the One Ring due to their natural pride (which is why they didn't help carry the ring to Mordor).
Great Eagles were also maya, not just beasts.
No. The Great Eagles didn't help carry the Ring to Mordor because Sauron had his own airforce with the Flying Fell Beasts. The Eagles would have been spotted and hunted down.
The Fellowship needed to sneak the ring into Mordor without being noticed.
That's completely incorrect
I am unsurprised by a bird's lack of understanding when it comes to the minutest of details of hierarchy and taxes. I do however completely understand why it would pity us for subjecting ourselves to such things in many situations
Edit: just realized how this might sound and no I am not saying all taxes are theft or something like that, what I am saying is all that the bird will see is someone taking your stuff and be confused that you don't treat it as extortion
Taxation is theft. However, the point of it is ultimately to prevent less predictable and more violent theft. That's the social contract with your government.
8:34 I can literally imagine dwarves taking one of these eagles out and slow cooking it and out open field. Just so the eagles can smell then see their comrade being spit roasted.
I thought it said BREASTS of the old world. Now there's a topic Arch.
I want this
Breasts for the Breast God!
He would probably just talk about female Ogres for 30 minutes.
Intelligent Giant Eagles. Completely Lord of the Rings based but still really cool. Just give them a Wood Elf with a bow and they basically became combat helicopters.
God Bless Athel Loran!
PoV: elf Vietnam has had it up to here with your shit and has decided that they're not going to wait for you to come back into the forest before they try to murder you
Athel Loren is basically a modern nato.
-can operate almost everywhere on the map.
-kurnous arrows work like f-35's missiles
That NATO part aged like milk
@@bigblockman11
? how so?
117 years ago Henry Osborne gave a name to the most awesome Predator to walk the earth, I would like to wish everyone a Happy Tyrannosaurus Rex day!
To celebrate I'm eating a huge rare rib-eye steak for lunch!
Fun fact: They have certain lever action rifles rated for T-Rex hunting
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus if I was hunting something like that I would want an Express rifle
@@VictorianTimeTraveler don’t blame you, I’d go one further and say that the 20mm rifle and some of the antitank rifles of ww1 would be better fit for the task imo
Short of that a rpg or a antitank recoilless rifle would be ideal, one attached to a truck.
We making it our the prehistoric Middle East with this one.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus it's all about shot placement.
Really you can take down anything with a 30-06, or similar. You can slaughter a cow with a .22 at point blank with exact shot placement.
the point of a Big Bore overpowered round is in case of something charges you unexpectedly from the brush. I have some friends in South Africa that would tell you something along those lines.
(that probably doesn't actually apply to something as large as a Mega theropod. We really have no frame of reference for an animal like that)
@@VictorianTimeTraveler that’s funny, my family has worked in the Ivory Coast for a couple generations now, my grand father worked with Rhodesia and South Africa in the bush war when He was young, small world.
Yeah shot placement matters but if I am in a era of time I don’t understand where nothing is on my side and I have no supply chain I want the biggest round I can get to fire for monsters that size. I highly doubt I’ll get the drop on a creature like the T-Rex. Freakin lizard had feet like a cat so it can sneak up on you.
The elves just need to strap some tactical elves on the eagles legs and they would have proper aerial force
🎵crack of the lightning splitting the ground🎵
Give them explosive barrels to throw and blades for their feet
Of everything GW Definitely Didn't Steal from Tolkien, this feels the most painfully obvious.
What about the term "eldar"?
if you read the descriptions of Halflings in Warhammer you will rip your hairs out
@@robertnelson9599 Eldar to Aeldar 😂 always laughed at this respelling XD
Great eagles the true sign of German suppremancy in the Old world.
Don't you mean Imperial supremacy?
@@robertnelson9599no he doesn’t
The Eagles... the eagles are here ❤
YES more Beasts Of The Old World
"Fly you Fools!"
I recently got a bunch of these guys from someone who didn’t want his old high elf army and i took said army off his hands. I basically doubled my high elf army by getting that lot
I think they’re the reason dragons live in caves.
The kinetic energy passed on from that sort of swoop would do some incredible internal injuries.
Swoop a dragon, break a vertebrae & rip through the wings.
Real eagles have been recorded killing things upto 11 times their body weight.
Justice for the War of Vegeance
Don't you mean the War of the Beard?
@@robertnelson9599The War of the Beard is the term the Elves use
Always glad when one of these pops up. Great job
I used to use 3 of them in my Fantasy Wood Elf army.
next episode: Strigoi Ghoul Kings, please?
That sounds interesting! I don't know very much about the Strigoi but it sounds neat.
Everyone hates Dwarfs. They are everyone's bearded stone to kick.
Dawi are acholic's grude bearing and mean.
But they at least fight the same enemy as the empire and asure.
Muatal enemies do not make friends.
Ah, so this is how we'll fletch the ballistae bolts.
another quality video, still the king. some of that artwork was stunning
Absolutely love your vids homie. Appreciate what you do
Great lore info arch. Thanks.
Arch your videos are pretty much always on my youtube. I particularly like videos where you get down to the nitty, gritty logistics or where you dig into less well know parts of wh40k and fantasy.
Could I ask for more videos, like the one on 'Boarding Actions', where you choose an aspect of wh40k and then pick apart how the factions would tackle it? Or maybe a series based around the same idea, to really give you time to shine.
This is a comment to thank Arch and to support the video. Cheers.
When Arch said nevermind at the end there I just kept thinking of George Carlin stand-up bit, Nevermind!!!
Of Course Arch turns it into a Logistics conversation, and then Slaneshy intrusive thoughts surface
Yo Arch been subscribed to you for years, LONG before you had to change your name, but anyway, we need more " beasts of the old world " videos, only 7 is bordering on heresy, i know i know 40k gets the clicks with clicks come the dollars and this is your job, nothing wrong with that, but some more videos on the old world man, we love it.
Keep up the good work, and thank you, this channel is amazing.
The funniest joke is GW being protective of their IP despite having stuff like this
More beast of old world
War of the Beard video?
Okay, i am genuinely laughing out loud in meatspace because as big bird eat dwarf, so to does dwarf when able eat big bird. There's a sort of poetry there.
Meatspace? Is that zoomer speak for real life? O_o I haven't heard that one before hehe
@@angry_zerglingIt is cyberpunk or shadowrun slang for the real work by those who prefer to be in cyberspace.
@@malaficus thank you
Awesome content as always!! Thank you
Barges into conversation.
"Razorbills are better."
Refuses to elaborate.
Leaves.
great stuff arch
“With elevated intelligence comes racism,“ yes, yes it does. The smarter you are the easier it is to recognize date trends, correlation and causation; a la 13% 54%, per capita etc.
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It sucks that age of sigmar does not have a world that feels as lived in as fantasy did. All of these animals and creatures, all in their own continents and ecosystems and it made sense. Not everything was just a monster or some silly fantasy critter
I don't know any AoS lore, but do peoples actually live, y'know, lives in Age of Sigmar? Are there governments and politics and intrigues, cities and states, industry and profession, bureaucracies and taxes and civilizations? Or is it just armies clashing?
@@angry_zergling from what little I’ve read in age of sigmar? It’s all just magic based space marines acting as advertisements. They should have ended it all like they did previously: by having a ork kick the ever chosen in the junk harder then anything has been kicked before in all of war hammer past present or future.
@@angry_zerglingthat literaly what the cities of sigmar army is
@@brunooliveira-jx5uc Oh okay.
@@angry_zergling 👍
How the fuck does GW have the balls to sue anybody when stuff like this exist.
Can Arch make a video exploring everything Games Workshop nicked/copied/stolen/etc?
That'd be hours of video. Everything GW has was originally taken from fantasy/scifi pop culture and put their own spin on it.
BASED EAGLES(im a deep rock galactic fan btw)
Nice video !
*FREEDOM INTENSIFIES*
Aaaaaaaah, that's why the eagles only ever turn up at the last minute.
Add more beast of the old world and add demon engines bull centaurs and hob goblins to playlist
Sooooo when sabbat worlds?
As soon as the trucker video comes out
Oooh yeah he did promise us that, didn't he? Personally I'm on a bit of a Fantasy kick lately so I was happy with it.
Great Eagles dropping rocks on formations....big uff time for the enemy XD
Elves have to ride Eagles.
Dwarves can just ride around, by bouncing on their massive balls.
Kinda reminds me of magpies. Be an ass and they swoop but feed them and they stop swooping 😆
Lol it took me way too long to realize this video wasn’t about LOTR eagles XD
Bloody Elf Simps.
Always causing a fuss for any good and honest dawi.
Dawi should bow to the asure.
@@malaficus Can't bow to something missing a head.
Hmm, would have been great to have their immunity against chaos in the Tabletop. Maybe they even had it before 5th Ed., but thats when I started. But having them immune to magic would have made them a great ride.
But can these drop a ring in a volcano?
Just a shame in Total War they are about as useful as a chocolate fire guard unless as a mount for a hero/lord
ahhhhhh middle earth
8:00 - The Dwarves have fought wars against each other, over the mere suggestion that their ale is a bit watery (e.g. like human beer)
8:50 - The Greenskins likely see them and go "Oh good, someone shoot 'dat down, I'm hungry!"
Well, if they happen to feast on some bandit, no big deal, saves those hunting them down having to do that.
Dwarfs aren't quite that foolish in later editions. If only because they know their diminishing empire cannot allow such madness.
Such a scenario would at worst end with bar brawl followed by infuriated scribbling.
@@PhilosophicallyAmericanAh yes, those "angry beer soaked beards on legs" as Gnarl from Overlord: Raising Hell would put them.
I suscribe to KFC : Khorne Fried Chicken, when those birdies veer to close to Skarbrand in TWW3
Anyone found good great eagle alternative models for old world? I'd love to have a couple for my wanderers/sylvaneth army
There is a GW great eagles kit from the LOTR wargame (middle earth strategy battle game or something).
Their lore is already taken from lotr, might as well take the miniatures too) Scale looks fitting and the models are made of modern quality GW plastic.
I’d get a 3D printer bro, you deserve better than gw products
Dear diary , today a giant bird is being racist to my clan .
Cool universe
Because eagles solve all our problems!!
Will you do chaos creatures too ?
He did a awesome one on the 4 legged dragon-warrior things that don’t age
I would think that a lot of eagles would see grazing animals as part of a humans “hunting grounds”. a territory thing.
Anyways, I like how there are a few “compromisable neutral” creatures in warhammer. They need proactive reasons to do things with tangible benefits to themselves. Otherwise they arent necessarily noble or dastardly by human standards, but function on their own internal logics. Like ogres. they can sometimes be dealt with by giving them food. But they aren’t particularly opposed to gobble up an “ally” here or there if they can get away with it.
Do noblars chaos spawn and blood rack Medusa
Ironic how posessive GW is with their copyright, considering how flagrantly they violated other copyrighted works to build the foundation of their work.
have you done any videos on the flesh eaters courts?
Petting acción of course
It's a pity they never did armoured eagles. Convinceing an eagle to have metal claws and beak covers (improved weapons) and some armour plates should be easier than letting a heavy elf ride their backs. Especially Ithilmar.
I want one.
5*
An intelligent animal is still an animal. So many fantasy settings forget this and pretend that wolves can charge a spear wall and have it go well.
If we are suspending the suspension of belief in a fantasy setting, then i’d like to complain about the walking and talking trees. 🌳
@@MrJ6H one of those things that make a baseline, not really worth breaking down story wise.
I find them being messengers of the old ones being dubious. If slann dont need messengers why would the old ones?
What about Great Hawks? They are cannon, right?
[libationes deis algorithmi aquilarumque]
Raycist birbs.
Do hydracys
And to think GW often sues people for what they thing is Plagiarism when they skirted the line with this one.
To be honest I think I would eat a Great Eagle one day...if given the chance. If only I had received the help of the Eagles in regards to my old boss. Basically my old boss is the major reason why I am deaf and losing hearing consistently nowadays...
YESS MORE FANTASY LORE
The eagles are coming, i can hear the rid of the valkery playing
It's Friday, where's my video Arch?
still waiting on the video on the hung lmao
Guild wars 2 arch ? ARCH?
Damn those racist eagles!
Based eagles.
I like eagles, but they're too loud. I had a juvenile stalk me for a few days while camping last week.
I wonder why it was doing that! That's a lot of energy to spend on something you can't eat. Confused you or something about you with something it could eat I guess? (saw your head and assumed it was a raccoon or something like that?)
Probably hoping he would send prey items running, you know flush out prey with hsi human lumbering about.
MoreLore
Kaldor great Eagle
Whats up bros
caw caw eagle eagle
@@angry_zergling Kill-Kill! Flying bird thing thing.
Bro's being bro's.
No arch please do go into this so called "Petting action 😮" It is valuable to military doctrine
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Like for the like throne
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Funny thing. In the coveted brains:body ratio.
We are the smartest in mammals.
Magpies are the smartest all up.
Great eagles would have intelligence ≈ dragons imo
3 times wider wingspan then the prehistoric eagles the Maori tribes hunted in pre history