I don't understand how this fools anyone. If you literally catch the ball, then move your hand 10-14 inches, it obviously wasn't a strike. Can the umps even see the glove from where they are standing?
You’re always moving your glove “10-14 Inches” because your glove starts in the ground. Whether it’s down the middle or not your glove goes ground up and umps can’t really see when u catch it in the one smooth motion. Whether it’s in the zone or not they always move it to their chest/ chin…
@@kylegarrett2844 They are moving the glove AFTER they catch the ball. It makes an obvious sound. Any movement after the sound is this so called "framing". You are right, I am not an umpire, and based on all of the bad umpire videos I have seen, along with how easy they are fooled by "framing", it seems they only let sub 90 iq people sign up.
Framing pitches is BS...any umpire that reacts to that should not be an umpire...it's where the ball crosses the strike zone...not where catcher catches DFIP
Bro that is true but remember teams do what they have to do in order to win even if it is to make the Ump think that the caught position of the ball is a strike even if it isn't.
I agree, but until then, it’s a hell of a skill. There’s a lot of manipulation of human error in baseball currently. They’ve eliminated a lot of it, but not all yet.
@@kennywiley768 just out of curiosity, what do you see as potential downsides? I get that it takes a human element out of the game, but I think some of the gravity of some of the blown calls make baseball more a game of chance than it should be.
People really think that moving your glove 16 inches into the middle of the zone after the ball hits your mitt is fooling the umpire when in reality, they're close pitches that bad umpires think are in the corner. Framing pitches like this makes you look like a jackass.
People don't really think that. It's just the consistency in mitt movement. There are very few "bad" umpires in the MLB, they didn't just get put there for nothing. I guess not being a "jackass" kept you from going pro too, right?
Framing does work. Exaggerated framing works if the ball is low. The catcher uses normal framing most of the time where he is only moving a few inches. The umpire gets used to small framing so when the catcher goes up to the top of the zone, it tricks the umpire into thinking the ball was higher than it actually was.
It really is a skill. Umps use a lot of different queues to determine ball or strike. The look as it comes down the mound, the location of the catchers mitt when the sound of the ball hits the mitt. It doesn’t always work, and part of the skill is knowing just how far to move it and where to move it to sell it or make the ump question himself, but until the virtual strike zone is established, it’s certainly a skill that has changed the outcome of games.
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I don't understand how this fools anyone. If you literally catch the ball, then move your hand 10-14 inches, it obviously wasn't a strike. Can the umps even see the glove from where they are standing?
You clearly aren’t an umpire or have an experience behind the plate.
You’re always moving your glove “10-14 Inches” because your glove starts in the ground. Whether it’s down the middle or not your glove goes ground up and umps can’t really see when u catch it in the one smooth motion. Whether it’s in the zone or not they always move it to their chest/ chin…
@@kylegarrett2844 They are moving the glove AFTER they catch the ball. It makes an obvious sound. Any movement after the sound is this so called "framing". You are right, I am not an umpire, and based on all of the bad umpire videos I have seen, along with how easy they are fooled by "framing", it seems they only let sub 90 iq people sign up.
From the outfield veiw it’s obvious but for the umpire it’s a smooth motion and makes it really difficult to tell how high or low the pitch was
Framing pitches is BS...any umpire that reacts to that should not be an umpire...it's where the ball crosses the strike zone...not where catcher catches DFIP
Bro that is true but remember teams do what they have to do in order to win even if it is to make the Ump think that the caught position of the ball is a strike even if it isn't.
I've never understood why some fans think framing is "ok". Just catch the damn ball where it is and let the ump make the call. Its cheating
Pitch framing is the equivalent to flopping in the NBA. Electronic strike zones will put an end to this nonsense
I agree, but until then, it’s a hell of a skill. There’s a lot of manipulation of human error in baseball currently. They’ve eliminated a lot of it, but not all yet.
No even close, anyone can flop, this is a skill that takes polishing.
Hahahahahahahahah. Such a clueless statement. Electronic strike zones will open up a brand new can of worms. Just remember you asked for it
@@kennywiley768 just out of curiosity, what do you see as potential downsides? I get that it takes a human element out of the game, but I think some of the gravity of some of the blown calls make baseball more a game of chance than it should be.
@@alexlevinson8629there are no downsides. He’s just handwaving
People really think that moving your glove 16 inches into the middle of the zone after the ball hits your mitt is fooling the umpire when in reality, they're close pitches that bad umpires think are in the corner. Framing pitches like this makes you look like a jackass.
People don't really think that. It's just the consistency in mitt movement. There are very few "bad" umpires in the MLB, they didn't just get put there for nothing. I guess not being a "jackass" kept you from going pro too, right?
The game is the game
Framing does work. Exaggerated framing works if the ball is low. The catcher uses normal framing most of the time where he is only moving a few inches. The umpire gets used to small framing so when the catcher goes up to the top of the zone, it tricks the umpire into thinking the ball was higher than it actually was.
Framing is part of baseball bud 🤷♂️
It really is a skill. Umps use a lot of different queues to determine ball or strike. The look as it comes down the mound, the location of the catchers mitt when the sound of the ball hits the mitt. It doesn’t always work, and part of the skill is knowing just how far to move it and where to move it to sell it or make the ump question himself, but until the virtual strike zone is established, it’s certainly a skill that has changed the outcome of games.