Seymour Duncan Liberator 500K vs 250K experiment

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  • @PaulGrahamGuitarst
    @PaulGrahamGuitarst 10 років тому +19

    I use 500K Ohm in my strats.
    If it is ever too bright you can roll the tone back a little.

  • @ZblockWoW
    @ZblockWoW 9 років тому +3

    Those are some tasty licks. I could listen to your playing all day!

  • @adamscottv
    @adamscottv 6 днів тому

    Nice demo. You can hear the "wooliness" in the HB on the Strat with the 250k pot, IMHO. Nice playing.

  • @jeshely
    @jeshely 6 років тому +1

    Man, I love the sound of all those strats you have. Each one offers something unique.

  • @mdwayne741
    @mdwayne741 8 років тому +3

    Nice demo.... the jb sh4 sounds fantastic with the 250k pot in the sunburst strat with black pick guard!

  • @landonjackson3064
    @landonjackson3064 7 років тому +6

    That HSS Strat sounds Devine . Wow . You are an amazing player . Cheers

    • @kimseniorb
      @kimseniorb 6 років тому

      Landon Jackson all of the strats are HSS in this vid

  • @slickcontinentaldude4288
    @slickcontinentaldude4288 9 років тому +10

    It's rare to find a youtube demo with such tasteful playing.
    I preferred the Little 59 tone but wonder what it would sound like with 500k.

  • @ViniBeber
    @ViniBeber 10 років тому +21

    3:00 wtf!!???
    Best strat sound that i heard

    • @moimeme7839
      @moimeme7839 6 років тому +1

      Vini Beber fender vintage👍 my thoughts too

    • @Aniki82
      @Aniki82 3 роки тому +1

      yes the seymour duncan 59 is really nice and not too hard to balance out with single coils

  • @amybobsbird
    @amybobsbird 11 років тому

    Thanks a lot for this JR. Trying to read about all this was starting to make my brain boil. Great to hear it all. Sweet playing too - liked the little smile at the end when you cut loose a little too.

  • @kajtarstefan504
    @kajtarstefan504 6 років тому

    Killer sounding tele deluxe 72 you got there ! I'm in love with them (that's why i own 3 different types of 72 deluxe). so you are saying that if i change the pot from them wich i supose it's a 500k one,it will sound more what ? darker or brighter ?

  • @eddiebaby22
    @eddiebaby22 9 років тому +3

    Thanks man, this is what I really wanted to know and was searching for. Was getting more and more conffused searching and reading forums. Now I know I want a 500k in my HSH. Thanks for sharing and beautiful playing.

  • @wakjob961
    @wakjob961 10 років тому +4

    Everyone should get in the habit of actually measuring the value of pots with a good meter before using them. You'd be amazed at some of the variances +/-.

  • @jo.burgos
    @jo.burgos 3 роки тому

    NICE!!!❤️
    Whats your capacitor value for the tone pots...?

  • @RobCmusic
    @RobCmusic 10 років тому +3

    All good tones, but I prefer the 250k in this clip. to be fair though I prefer a darker sounding guitar and turn the treble up more on the amp rther than the other way round.

  • @ilovenoise
    @ilovenoise  12 років тому

    You can use any pickups at all.
    They are now doing scratchplates that are prewired with the liberator, you just add the pickups..very cool.

  • @ranius7388
    @ranius7388 10 років тому

    great sounds! indeed better with the 500K .
    but its specific for that guitar ...
    every guitar i had took me about 10 wiring rounds and 8-10 pickup changes to find the sound i wanted .
    but eventually its cheaper than new guitar... and i kept them since
    what gear you used in the video?

  • @someoneelse101
    @someoneelse101 6 років тому

    The Lil 59 gets overpowered by the neck pickup in the VG Strat. Just wondering: did you use 250K tone pots in the HSS Strat with the Pearly Gates at the bridge or 500K?

  • @emreemre369
    @emreemre369 8 років тому

    Great demo man, it clarified it all for me.....

  • @ilovenoise
    @ilovenoise  12 років тому +1

    To be very honest I'm not sure how much the tone pot value influences the sound.
    I thought it was just the volume pot that affected the treble.

  • @dokdorian
    @dokdorian 9 років тому

    great demo! but if u didnt change anything from ur gibson standard. it has 300k volume pots originally!

  • @MikeyGee001
    @MikeyGee001 13 років тому

    Great Video dude. I have a 2011 Deluxe HSS Strat with N3 Pups and I think it sound MUCKY ...
    Do you think a pot change will work best or should I just go for the SD "Everything Axe" pickup set ? And if I do .. although they are all single coil sized buckers ... should I still go with the 500K pots ?

  • @insaneinthebrain1978
    @insaneinthebrain1978 8 років тому

    Informative Video thx! why dont you put 500k into your 72 tele? all the best to you

  • @TheRealFreekBos
    @TheRealFreekBos 11 років тому +1

    Thanks man... I really enjoyed that video. Made me smarter and happier at the same time. :D

  • @entertainmenotmusic9246
    @entertainmenotmusic9246 7 років тому

    why can't you have one 250K volume pot for neck and middle pickups and a 500K volume pot for the bridge humbucker? Or does using a 500K liberator make the use of a 250K volume pot for the neck and middle pickups redundant?

  • @DiedrichKnickerbocker1783
    @DiedrichKnickerbocker1783 10 років тому

    Making a partscaster. Wondering what volume/tone pots I should use for a humbucker (bridge), p90 (neck)?

  • @TheCheshireGoat
    @TheCheshireGoat 8 років тому

    Great playing! Thanks for this - really good video.

  • @juniorparent1
    @juniorparent1 11 років тому

    Hi James, I bought a fender EVH Wolfgang Special (non--USA Model), the volume pot seems to have a couple of flaws? Going from 0 and turning it up slowly, there is a bit of a lull till it has any volume. Secondly, when I'm at about 7 there is a buzz introduced into the signal that isn't there either below that level or at a higher level it is less of a buzz. It's a 550k pot. Just wondering if that's normal or there is something wrong with the pot? Thanks! Gary

  • @Mojotown69
    @Mojotown69 8 років тому

    I just got a Roland VG strat for I love my boss GP-10. I put a gibson Humbucker in, but left the 250k pots. It has over all low gain. I was wandering, If I put the 500k V-pot, if it will hurt the sound of the single coils? I have a 1979 Fender X1 at the neck, and american 1985 strat single coil in middle. They sound sweet. Advise please. What if I turn the 500k up only half way, is that same as 250k?

  • @TheZen900
    @TheZen900 8 років тому

    Fender issued a 96 Strat HSS with a Pearly Gates SD in the bridge back in the late 90s. It is the best pickup I have used in any guitar in any position.

  • @mhttshr
    @mhttshr 10 років тому

    hi! pretty informative.... It would be great to hear what you think about coil taps! Thanks :)

  • @mdwayne741
    @mdwayne741 8 років тому

    ....great job. When is the album coming out!?

  • @sim0n17
    @sim0n17 10 років тому +4

    500k volume pot is the way to go with HSS set up. Just add a 500k resistor between the neck single coil and its ground so it "sees" the volume pot as 250k -- then you can have the best of both worlds!!! \M/
    P.S. I don't really think the tone pots make a difference, 250k or 500k...

  • @ghyslainperreault6179
    @ghyslainperreault6179 6 років тому

    Hi James. Do you change all 3 pots for 500k or just the volume pot?

  • @crazysecretagent001
    @crazysecretagent001 13 років тому +1

    Geez man, I must know what amp you are using. Everything sounds incredible through it

  • @egotripband
    @egotripband 12 років тому

    one of my strats is HSS and was a little dark with 1 tone & 1 volume with 250 KOhm pot then i changed to 1 500 K Vol & 1 500 K Tone & it sounds a little too trebly and brittle on the single pups.. should i try a 500 K Vol & 250 K Tone ? i use only 1 tone rather than 2.. great playing by the way

  • @raredesign
    @raredesign 11 років тому +1

    This dude can play! Nice job.

  • @NickDiNunzio
    @NickDiNunzio 11 років тому

    I'm building a Stratocaster. All original, three Wilkinson Alnico V High Output Single Coils. I have the oppertunity to wire up my pickguard now. Should I wait, and get 500K pots? And, if I do need 500k pots, will I need a resistor? I'm a bit fuzzy on the topic. I want to get the best tone possible for my Partscaster. In my opinion, the best tone would be that "quacky" "slappy" "Hendrixy" tone. What pots should I get?

  • @brianknickerbocker8518
    @brianknickerbocker8518 7 років тому

    Very nice, our strat never gets played, hmm that just might change now. Thanks man

  • @jameskrys5286
    @jameskrys5286 6 років тому +1

    I like 500K volume and 250K tone pots together.

  • @abergreg
    @abergreg 8 років тому

    Love the sounds and the playing. Just minor heads up a Duncan 59 and a lil 59 dont sound the same. The 59 has an alnico5 magnet, the lil 59 a ceramic mag. The lil 59 sounds a bit more top and bottom to my ears, I prefer the proper 59. I found an Air norton the perfect strat bridge pickup, just a bit more "push" than a 59.

  • @Mark70609
    @Mark70609 12 років тому

    I'm not sure using two different guitars is a valid comparison, after all a strat with a rosewood fingerboard generally does sound darker than a strat with a maple neck/fingerboard. Then there is pickups and body wood to consider, ash is brighter than alder etc.

  • @isaacdtretch6688
    @isaacdtretch6688 10 років тому +7

    Solution stacked 500k/250k pots!

    • @klanggrenze3905
      @klanggrenze3905 5 років тому +1

      I believe so, too. But what about the auto-split no. 4 position then? Does it "see" sort of both pots in parallel then?

  • @zaccoSweden
    @zaccoSweden 11 років тому

    Hello.
    Great video.
    But what amp do you use in this video?

  • @joepearson5560
    @joepearson5560 12 років тому

    I have 3 dimarzio rail pickups which are all humbuckers with 250k pots. Would I need to change all three pots or just the volume to brighten the tone up?

  • @streihermit
    @streihermit 9 років тому

    what kind of bridge do you have on that Dano in the back?

  • @MrRastaVibrations
    @MrRastaVibrations 10 років тому +1

    I agree that the different pots make a huge difference. I just finished a Les Paul build which I put a SD Jazz & JB combo into. With 500k pots it was painfully bright - way too much treble esp for a LP with 2 humbuckers. I switched out the tone pots for 250k w/ push/pull (1 split, 1 phase) and it warmed right up bit is still crystal clear. It's all horses for courses.

  • @jackdaniels64
    @jackdaniels64 10 років тому

    Wow sounds amazing mate!

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN 5 років тому

    hay the 3rd strat sounds bright with 250k,, your fist strat does have a nice range of humbucker to single coil sound. they all sound great with that pushed Marshall sound, i like your style of playing on hear.

  • @zacharydoering313
    @zacharydoering313 11 років тому

    I don't think this was a fair A/B comparison. I also think it might make a lot of sense to remove the tone pots if you use 250k since those cause high frequency roll off. I will say though the tone with all of the 250k guitars breathed a lot more sounded more dynamic and while the did have less treble had far superior bass tone that was more percussive.

  • @connyblomqvist3648
    @connyblomqvist3648 5 років тому

    Hi..did you use 250 or 500 for the duncan hot rail pickups ?

    • @ilovenoise
      @ilovenoise  5 років тому

      I've found that 500 works best for stacked pickups

    • @connyblomqvist3648
      @connyblomqvist3648 5 років тому

      @@ilovenoise Ok..Would you evan recomend 500k for Duncan SSL4 Quaterpound pickups ?

  • @GeroLubovnik
    @GeroLubovnik 10 років тому +1

    Do you put the 500k pot in the volume only, or must you do the two tone pots as well?

    • @superstate
      @superstate 8 років тому

      I just put a 500k volume pot and I'm wondering the same thing...

    • @GeroLubovnik
      @GeroLubovnik 8 років тому +1

      I actually ended up doing an imitation Shawbucker wiring where the volume pot was the stacked 250 K in 500 K combination pot and the neck and middle pick ups enjoyed A 250 K pot and the bridge pick up at the 500 K pot installed separately for it.

  • @krissyehayes3100
    @krissyehayes3100 4 роки тому

    Good demo. But a suggestion, turn down the volume of the music when you are talking 😀

  • @Evolveweb
    @Evolveweb 13 років тому

    Wow the tone of the 500k on the singles kicks some serious cutting balls! Im going to hook my singles to 500k! The 250k's sound dull after hearing the comparison. You've made a nice choice

  • @Karkacool
    @Karkacool 11 років тому

    Hm, wouldn't it make a clear volume difference when switching from coils to humbucker?

  • @badmuddy
    @badmuddy 12 років тому

    outta curiousity, did you used to live on womerah ave in the mid '90's?

  • @ilovenoise
    @ilovenoise  11 років тому

    Sounds interesting, I'll give it a go.Thanks

  • @viper7159
    @viper7159 9 років тому +3

    Dude can play!!

    • @itsstillfriday
      @itsstillfriday 9 років тому

      viper 71 I was just thinking the same thing... Sounds Good, Indeed!!

  • @ilovenoise
    @ilovenoise  11 років тому

    It's the Digidesign Eleven rack

  • @marcospiccolo6065
    @marcospiccolo6065 8 років тому

    Great sounds!!

  • @GrapeApeAH
    @GrapeApeAH 12 років тому

    Which had green cap. and orange cap.?

  • @MikeyGee001
    @MikeyGee001 13 років тому

    I am going to do this this week
    My deluxe strat with the N3's sound MUCKY ..
    I really miss the sparkle .... and if I have to roll back some tone to cut some highs .. great ... right now I am always grabbing my tone knob looking for MORE sparkle ..
    GREAT VID

  • @zaxlash
    @zaxlash 9 років тому +2

    Excellent playing and tone dude.

  • @tiginaray
    @tiginaray 5 років тому +1

    You may try 300 k pots as well.....

  • @rockanthems
    @rockanthems 12 років тому

    so you changed the Volume pot to 500k,not the bridge tone pot?

  • @kevinbrooks6265
    @kevinbrooks6265 8 років тому

    dude....you play sweetly !

  • @hgostos
    @hgostos 6 років тому

    1st one sounded fantastic. Second: too dark with the bridge 'bucker. Same with the 3rd. 4th was fine with their own vibe going on. 5th (LP) sounds great with 500K.

  • @jeffallan3761
    @jeffallan3761 10 років тому

    I thought the sunburst strat sounds great. thick and beefier than the yellow/white one is a bit scrawny, in comparison, but its also maple board.. The JB/250K combo even sounds great compared to the Gibson bridge position with 500K pots.if you listen at 2:14 and then at 5:06 or so. Would be a better comparison if you used same guitar and switched pots only. Different guitar designs, pickups etc...is just way too many variables to get any conclusion.

  • @VicenzzoPaiva
    @VicenzzoPaiva 8 років тому +1

    What amp are you using???

  • @rutiger6901
    @rutiger6901 2 роки тому

    No differences detected here.

  • @benmaguire4098
    @benmaguire4098 5 років тому

    Yes the last time I heard some one just pottering about .. lol .. that gr8 .. was Tim Pierce .. if you don't know him .. google .. Nashville session guy .. But like you he can hit those extra harmonics so sweetly & effortlessly it's a pleasure to listen cheers from an old Scot's Muso dude who lives in the Ye olde Forest in Englande .. all the best

  • @LfunkeyA
    @LfunkeyA 7 років тому

    500k too abrasive imo, unless it's a neck humbucker. 250k is great for singles or bridge humbucker. 500k is probably better when you want to cut through.

  • @Fusionaris
    @Fusionaris 10 років тому

    WHAT PEDALS YOU ARE USING ON THIS ??

  • @MikeyGee001
    @MikeyGee001 13 років тому

    Are you two single coils the N3's ??

  • @Ganache30
    @Ganache30 11 років тому

    Neck pickups in the strat sound a hell of a lot better with a 250k pot than a 500k (I was listening through studio monitors and the strat with 500k in the neck position was actually hurting my ears). The humbuckers sound dull in a 250k pot (bridge strat) and amazing in the Les Paul 500k pot. The only logical answer is to have a Les Paul with 2 humbuckers and 500k pots and a strat/tele with single coils and 250k pots.

  • @enjoyCarlos
    @enjoyCarlos 11 років тому

    Nice sound!

  • @a-fox
    @a-fox 8 років тому +2

    Big FAIL.... you are comparing apples to oranges. The Humbucker vs single coil is going to affect the sound as much as the pot resistance levels would.

  • @emreemre369
    @emreemre369 8 років тому +1

    The humbuckers you try are generally on the bright side... so I would say they do okay with 250 k... lil 59 definitely...

  • @tiginaray
    @tiginaray 5 років тому

    500 k works fantastic bro!

  • @benmaguire4098
    @benmaguire4098 5 років тому

    Hello James .. I almost just moved onto the next .. whatever .. but as I was looking down the line of little vids .. I was caught by not the tone of the seymour duncans .. but the really gr8 guitar playing .. so many of these demos / reviews have such poor musical content .. but one of the runs you played really grabbed me .. very Buddy guy / Rory G .. SRV .. more than just scales or showing off ..

  • @TheCrowHawk
    @TheCrowHawk 13 років тому

    what kinda capacitors are on the guitar?

  • @abnzg
    @abnzg 9 років тому

    A 250k vol and a 250k tone in series means you have a 125k load, just saying.

    • @bluwng
      @bluwng 5 років тому

      Your saying wrong, just saying. You meant in parallel in series they add.

  • @ilovenoise
    @ilovenoise  12 років тому

    Standard Fender tone pots

  • @christianlassen3948
    @christianlassen3948 4 роки тому +4

    the noodling in the background is simply too much, turn it down please !

  • @unruler
    @unruler 3 роки тому

    500k pots sound no longer like a strat though.

  • @ShortFingeredShreder
    @ShortFingeredShreder 13 років тому

    I liked the VG Strat the most...

  • @ricksalt6860
    @ricksalt6860 11 років тому

    I'll say it too , Excellent video, thanks for making it!
    It helps that you can play really well ........ tips from a pro .

  • @BB2009LZ
    @BB2009LZ 12 років тому

    They all sound great, proving once again, it's the magician, not the wand! I do like the wands with 500K pots a bit better though.

  • @GiulioImparato
    @GiulioImparato 8 років тому

    i just purchased and installed a cheap alnico hot rail for the bridge position in my strat and yeah it has got sustain but sounds kind of a cocked wah...there are just too many high mids (1.1 to 1.2 kilohertz as the spectrogram on my interface revealed) I think a 500k is the way to go even if a lot of people don't recommend to use 500k with hot rails. has anyone had a similar experience? I'm still not sure on the 500k but if someone has done it and it went all ok would be really useful!

    • @ilovenoise
      @ilovenoise  8 років тому

      It's fine to use 500k with Hot Rails, the tricky thing is that if you have regular single coils in the middle and neck, they may sound too bright. It's just some trial and error. It also depends a lot on what style/sound you play the most.

    • @GiulioImparato
      @GiulioImparato 8 років тому

      +james ryan thank you James I'll definitely try a 500k volume pot and maybe i will fiddle with the tone knobs a little bit but that's fine , i can deal with it

    • @jvin248
      @jvin248 8 років тому

      +james ryan There is a circuit mod to use the 500k volume pot but when the 5-way switches to the single pickups that a fixed resistor is added such that the single coil pickups run through an equivalent 250k volume pot (the 500k in parallel with a fixed resistor). Or twist the tone knob back when using single coils.
      Volume pots can be 20% off target and still be in spec - so it's a good idea to measure what the actual pot value is at if changing types/brands/target specs too.

  • @furthermoore1863
    @furthermoore1863 4 роки тому +1

    someone knows how to pick right to get tone. its you.

  • @mcfek7575
    @mcfek7575 4 роки тому

    Seymour Duncan JB works fine
    With both 250k and 500k

  • @ministeriojerusalentv8906
    @ministeriojerusalentv8906 9 років тому

    I need the diagram...

  • @TheGreatJuice
    @TheGreatJuice 12 років тому

    I personally think the 250k's sound better in the Fender's. The 500K's were awesome in the Les Paul but great to see you found something that works for you man(:

  • @SuperDragan1000
    @SuperDragan1000 12 років тому

    yeha, It's all about the POTs,has nothing with how many guitars he have...
    awesom video,by the way,it solved my problem...

  • @RavenMadd9
    @RavenMadd9 13 років тому

    500k for HB .....spot on man

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 6 років тому

    DAT TONE

  • @1axe1amp17
    @1axe1amp17 3 роки тому

    Sunburst one sounds better.

  • @curtisgtrdaddy
    @curtisgtrdaddy 12 років тому

    looks like an 11 rack on top left...

  • @RavenMadd9
    @RavenMadd9 13 років тому

    cool

  • @echofoniarecords
    @echofoniarecords 5 років тому

    Two different types of guitar wood. The test is not very precise.

  • @Graiskye
    @Graiskye 10 років тому

    great tone, great player. Somewhat pointless video ?
    Love your collection, and you really do have great hands, just dont understand the video, basically you confirm what we already know ?
    Take care all the same.