ELDEN RING | 8 Awesome NEW Secrets and Discoveries

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  • Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
  • #eldenring #darksouls #gaming
    With Elden Ring DLC on the horizon, one of my favorite things about From Software releases is the community search for secrets and discoveries. Elden Ring is the prime example of a game with lots of hidden secrets and mechanics and today we're breaking down 8 very cool ones. Elden Ring is an action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware and published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. The game was directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki and made in collaboration with fantasy novelist George R. R. Martin, who provided material for the game's setting.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:39 Shadow of the Erdtree
    2:05 Quella God of Dream
    3:56 Secret Godskin Interaction
    5:55 Erudition Notes
    7:09 Cleanrot Kindred
    9:09 A Good Boy
    10:14 Always Watching
    11:10 Elden Ring DNA
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    Metroid Prime OST
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  • @Garl_Vinland
    @Garl_Vinland Рік тому +480

    You can find pest Larvae in Caelid, they’re in one of the Ruined shrines with a bunch of unearthed coffins. It almost implies that the larvae are born from corpses, which would make sense, because Ionia is basically a giant battlefield.

    • @Metaknight180
      @Metaknight180 Рік тому +20

      Came straight to the comments after he mentioned them being in the Haligtree to point this out too, lol. I think it's where you get the Meteoric Ore Blade, or the Sword of St. Trina. Can't remember which.

    • @TommyLapointeBlondin
      @TommyLapointeBlondin Рік тому +25

      Also the larvae found in the Haligtree are right by a graveyard too that is found just outside the church they are in.

    • @schnoz2372
      @schnoz2372 Рік тому +5

      Oh i get it. Corpses rot, so pests naturally spawn from that? Although they seem to be specifically tied to malenia herself right?

    • @MitridatedCarbon
      @MitridatedCarbon Рік тому +11

      I feel like once a corpse rots enough and is reduced into pure rot, a pest is grown from it. Like the process of turning caterpillars into butterflies

    • @Garl_Vinland
      @Garl_Vinland Рік тому +1

      @@Metaknight180 Meteoric ore blade. Ar the pests aliens?

  • @user-dg4tu5gm8t
    @user-dg4tu5gm8t Рік тому +247

    I love the non-hostile dog! I always tried to move quietly around them to never upset them!

    • @MegaVirus700
      @MegaVirus700 Рік тому +24

      Honestly, a lot of NPCs are interesting when you don't aggro them. Have you ever heard the omens crying in their sleep? It's pretty sad and makes me not want to murder them

    • @itsm9818
      @itsm9818 Рік тому

      @@MegaVirus700 I like killing them and all the animals because it’s so satisfying

    • @user-dg4tu5gm8t
      @user-dg4tu5gm8t Рік тому +10

      @@MegaVirus700 If I can help it, I leave them alone too. They have been through too much 😥

    • @Sassle16
      @Sassle16 Рік тому +1

      Hasn't he been there since the launch?

    • @The_Joestar
      @The_Joestar Рік тому +2

      There's a non hostile misbegotten in the same area!

  • @minerman60101
    @minerman60101 Рік тому +137

    I feel like the Godskin Duo needed more mechanics that made them feel like a proper team and not just two bosses shoved in a room together. Hilarious that they had such a mechanic afterall but it bugged out instead.

    • @OG-ColorfulAbyss.
      @OG-ColorfulAbyss. Рік тому +14

      I just hate how such important, powerful and prominent enemies in the world and lore are just another copy/paste.

    • @OG-ColorfulAbyss.
      @OG-ColorfulAbyss. Рік тому +3

      @austini.5262 well I thank you for saying so.

    • @LordOfChaos.x
      @LordOfChaos.x Рік тому +1

      well they are not trully dead, we might get the chance to fight them again. They will try to stop us again and we will get to fight God Slayer Trio in a poison swamp

    • @CaptainSkylocke
      @CaptainSkylocke Рік тому

      ​@@OG-ColorfulAbyss. the Godskins aren't characters there's a bunch of them they're like a faction.

    • @OG-ColorfulAbyss.
      @OG-ColorfulAbyss. Рік тому +1

      Well, somebody clearly doesn't know what the "C" in "NPC" stands for.

  • @endlsxp9136
    @endlsxp9136 Рік тому +136

    Personally I think the shadow of the erdtree refers to the people who aren’t accepted or shunned its beliefs so they are cast into a realm of dark or unknown purgatory. Miquella shunning the golden order in search of a power to save malenia from the rot may have scorned the erdtree and golden order in a way that once his body perished it cast him into said purgatory where he searches for a way out or to reach the lands between.

    • @benadrylcumbersplatch6448
      @benadrylcumbersplatch6448 Рік тому +2

      I may be hoping too much but since Miquella's body is all jacked up I assume he can't really come back from wherever he is, so maybe we have to go into the spirit realm of the Helphen to help him somehow? Though knowing Miyazaki "helping" probably means killing him in an epic boss fight lol

    • @Tackitt
      @Tackitt Рік тому

      I personally think shadow refers to a shadow bound beast

    • @Reiginleaf
      @Reiginleaf Рік тому +1

      ​@Benadryl Cumbersplatch I really wish we can save Miquella and not kill him. It would be awesome. To bring his new world around.

    • @sempernun1285
      @sempernun1285 Рік тому

      @@Reiginleaf it would be awesome if that happened but i doubt miyazaki is gonna do that and on top of that. its my personal belief that stories that dont end the way we want them too are better. and i think miyazaki thinks that as well. in all of his dystopian worlds nothing good comes of it. even all the endings possible. none are necessarily good. none of them really fix anything worth while.

    • @Reiginleaf
      @Reiginleaf Рік тому +1

      @@sempernun1285 oh I know that...however... he knows we know that he knows.... so maybe he will do what we don't know because he knows what we don't know. Follow?

  • @COMEATMEBROO1
    @COMEATMEBROO1 Рік тому +62

    Shadow also refers to characters like Maliketh as all Empyreans have to have a shadow in order to rule. Marika had Maliketh, Ranni had Blaidd. Maybe we become a shadow for Miquella!

    • @kill3rbyysight
      @kill3rbyysight Рік тому +17

      no way I burned whole of lands between just to become a shadow to some tequila

    • @ECopas
      @ECopas Рік тому +2

      As long as I don’t have to change my name to Malenia, because as you may have heard, Malenia is the blade of Miquella

    • @LordOfChaos.x
      @LordOfChaos.x Рік тому +4

      @@kill3rbyysight u get that bussy at the end

    • @AgentChick
      @AgentChick Рік тому +1

      It would be rather interesting if Miquella acted like Gwyndolyn in the DLC. A sort of neutral boss that you can join in a covenant (or quest in this game), or just fight straight upl
      Everyone expects them to be the final boss of the DLC, but who knows if they'll give them higher relevance throughout the whole expansion.

    • @LordOfChaos.x
      @LordOfChaos.x Рік тому +1

      @@AgentChick i just want that bussy

  • @flugga182
    @flugga182 Рік тому +252

    I think the godskin waking up his friends from sleep is a very important discovery. it reinforces the theory that the devouring serpent Eiglay is actually the Lord of Chaos: Apep. Apep was a serpent who waited for Ra in a western mountain, (Mt. Gelmir?) to devour him. The godskins are immune to madness but very weak to sleep. In the game sleep and madness are at the two opposite sides of the same coin (see st. trina relieving nomadic merchants affected by madness with sleep). I always thought godskins being so weak to sleep was a bug and they were going to patch it, but now that we see the godskins actually having a way to counter the sleep status effect, it means that they actually are meant to be weak to it. And this is also similar to the man-serpent enemies in volcano manor, also immune to madness that are also weak to sleep. At the same time the godskins have snake features and protect the temple of Eiglay. it is also very strange that there is a troll with noble garments who's main attack is the franzied flame right in front of volcano manor. that also draws a sinister picture at who the godskins' gloam eyed queen might be....

    • @Chvddy_Bvddie
      @Chvddy_Bvddie Рік тому +7

      I dont understnad the Apep serpent Ra and Egily. Im assumeing either Eiglay or Apep where the serpent that devoured Ryakrd, but im completely lost on who Ra is

    • @danielsatter1805
      @danielsatter1805 Рік тому +40

      ​​@@Chvddy_Bvddie Ra and Apep are deities from ancient Egypt. This person was using that as a way to explain the relation of rykard and mt gelmir and whatnot

    • @flugga182
      @flugga182 Рік тому +16

      @@Chvddy_Bvddie Ra is the God representing the sun. And Apep is the god devouring serpent. That draws the parallel with Eigley.

    • @Finnsta
      @Finnsta Рік тому +13

      brilliant analysis, you’re why i love the soulsbourne community

    • @jaxdakid5598
      @jaxdakid5598 Рік тому

      good stuff king i see the similarities

  • @lorenzmaut3708
    @lorenzmaut3708 Рік тому +94

    The double helix is a really classic thing, it's a concept much more older than DNA. The duality of things is really old and it's a constant topic in humanity, so it makes sense to have so many examples of duality, duality doesn't mean two things separate, it means two parts of something.

    • @etinarcadiaego7424
      @etinarcadiaego7424 Рік тому +16

      Light and dark.
      Heat and cold.
      Life and death.
      Yin and yang.

    • @solomon9655
      @solomon9655 Рік тому +10

      If anything, the dual-helix form of DNA has always struck me as oddly poetic considering humanity revered that shape far before it was known to be within all living things.

    • @xaviermoreau-raymond9269
      @xaviermoreau-raymond9269 Рік тому +12

      I think because elden rings is based off hermeticism it’s a caduceus

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 Рік тому +4

      @@xaviermoreau-raymond9269 Absolutely. It fits way better than DNA with the themes of the game.

    • @knotgradaunknown7414
      @knotgradaunknown7414 Рік тому

      @@etinarcadiaego7424 reminded me of Hawkshaws` video the color wheel of Elden Ring; red being the color of the body and blue the color of the mind.

  • @griffinshawler8256
    @griffinshawler8256 Рік тому +6

    We could name the dog Turtle, a reference to all the Dog messages left next to turtles at the games release

    • @r3gret2079
      @r3gret2079 Рік тому

      100% this!!!

    • @ags8507
      @ags8507 Рік тому +1

      "What type of dog is this?"
      "This is a tortoise"
      "is this a cat in a hat?"
      "No, its a tortoise"

    • @r3gret2079
      @r3gret2079 Рік тому +1

      @@ags8507 bruh that shit cracked me tf up. Still funny to this day

    • @ags8507
      @ags8507 Рік тому +1

      @@r3gret2079 borat was the first tarnished

  • @spectralfox
    @spectralfox Рік тому +13

    The double helix reinforces my theory of an ongoing theme of duality within the game, starting with Marika/Radagon, Miquella/Malenia, Ranni/Renna(or Melina). Mohg/Margit.. etc.

  • @MitridatedCarbon
    @MitridatedCarbon Рік тому +19

    The double unbroken Helix I think is a representation of the laws of Causality and regression in action. Its's an unbreaking continuous helix, an eternal cycle, life and rebirth (no death), causality (the two lines separate from a point) and regression ( the two lines return to a similar point or state), gravitational push and attraction, and it seems to be a primordial symbol since it is present in the Elden Star incantation too. However on the Godlsayer sword, the Helix is broken, symbolising the "shattering" of these laws, or the end of the greater will authority on life altogether, so true death.

    • @tysonbrown9144
      @tysonbrown9144 Рік тому

      Yeah but a split DNA strand means it’s replicating which is literally how we get life. I feel like FS woulda caught that

  • @adamblue2980
    @adamblue2980 Рік тому +18

    The giant skeletons are the remains of the True giants, from ancient history. It is likely they who crafted the giants forge, as we can tell it's actually a Mobile forge, with the chain now serving as a bridge actually being part of how it was once carried.

    • @Baustakar
      @Baustakar 11 місяців тому

      So since the dragons were the first lords (as far as we now) does this mean the dragons fought the giants before?

  • @_ariosto1519
    @_ariosto1519 Рік тому +62

    Very cool video, thank you man! Under the shadow of the Erdtree means those who do not receive the light of the Erdtree, aka the tarnished, the omen, the misbegotten, those who live in death, etc.

    • @23Butanedione
      @23Butanedione Рік тому +1

      Wait why did you include the tarnished? I thought the whole thing was we were guided by grace

    • @dynam1cn00b
      @dynam1cn00b Рік тому +19

      @@23Butanedione Tarnished are called Tarnished because they lost the guidance of grace, the light of grace. We were brought back to the Lands Between & given the guidance of grace again, to go collect great runes & become the Elden Lord. That’s why everybody makes such a big deal about how we can see it, including other Tarnished.

    • @Beeyo176
      @Beeyo176 Рік тому +1

      And that fits with Miquella's character

    • @sned_dunes
      @sned_dunes Рік тому +1

      Shadow of War, Shadow of Mordor, Shadow of the Tomb raider, ...
      I wonder what these games have in common 🤔

    • @danieljeslinek3406
      @danieljeslinek3406 Рік тому +3

      ​@@sned_dunes the Word: Shadow.

  • @colorgreen8728
    @colorgreen8728 Рік тому +13

    That bug that they can’t wake each other up is the best bug ever accidentally made

  • @Maybelater1018
    @Maybelater1018 Рік тому +28

    The significance of the double helix probably has something to do with this game's focus on lineage and potentially genetics. The crucible being a primordial soup of sorts, the golden lineage being associated with godhood and the way genetic mutations can occur like with the Omen twins, Malenia and Miquella. Just a thought.

    • @MitridatedCarbon
      @MitridatedCarbon Рік тому +4

      There's a lot of scientific/mathematic symbols and concept used in this game so it isn't that farfetched, in particular considering the helix is either the start or the end of an age, as in the start or end of life.
      Gravity Sorceries have the magnetic field as a seal, the 2 fingers talisman shows an X chromosome, the rot kindred glaive back part is similar to a Mandelbrot fractal (which gives more sense to the " incomprehensible keen intellect" quote), the laws of Causality and regression come from mathematic theories, and there's probably more.

    • @Maybelater1018
      @Maybelater1018 Рік тому +1

      @@MitridatedCarbon WAAAAY more insight than I had, that's really interesting. I know how much From games leave up to interpretation but they are likely trying to keep a certain theme. I was thinking of the idea of lineage and genealogy but you mentioning the idea of birth and death (beginning and end of an age, beginning and end of life) ties perfectly into lineage thru the things we pass on. Like how we choose what elements are brought into the new order or whether we burn it away entirely. Isn't it fascinating when a story is open to interpretation and not just A to B storytelling?
      YO!!! Is Elden Ring just Metal Gear Solid 2?!?!?

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 Рік тому +2

      Or it's a caduceus. Probably a caduceus. It's been around since 4,000 or 3,000 BC, and considering the layers and layers of symbolism that fittingly apply to the themes of alchemy and hermeticism in the game, just makes way more sense than a strand of DNA.

    • @benadrylcumbersplatch6448
      @benadrylcumbersplatch6448 Рік тому +1

      @@MitridatedCarbon I'm gonna rip off Smoughtown here but as far as math is concerned there's also the pulley bow and crossbow which were developed using "advanced mathematical theorems," as well as the fact that for all intents and purposes, it appears that Goldmask is trying to solve the problems of the Golden Order not as a religion, nor as a system of governance, nor even as a philosophy, but as a straight up mathematical equation that's just not adding up. After all a wise man once said that maths are the language of God :D

    • @MitridatedCarbon
      @MitridatedCarbon Рік тому

      @@benadrylcumbersplatch6448 yeah the fundamentalists are all about order and logic, as well as understanding in a scientific way how the Greater Will works. which is why all their incantations use intelligence and why the 2 laws require only intelligence.

  • @g.d.o.cjacrispy9166
    @g.d.o.cjacrispy9166 Рік тому +11

    The double helix seems to repeatedly appear on things related to fire, black flame, the crucible, holy objects, and items relating to powerful entities. This must mean that the double helix could be a sign of extreme power or divinity in the lands between.

    • @DanielGarcia-rx3kt
      @DanielGarcia-rx3kt Рік тому +1

      One way to view fire is that since it is a force that can get rid of all that divides (Flame of Frenzy) it can divide the boundary between itself and one other thing thus resulting in a combination of attributes. This lends itself nicely to the double helix concept where it is fire + X attribute (Bloodflame, Godslaying Black-White Flame, Holy Flame, Sleep Flame, etc). Also, anytime Fire is involved the Faith attribute is linked to it. A side note, I always wondered if there is any reason that the only time Sleep is connected to Faith (as opposed to Intelligence) is because it is combined with Fire in a torch and whether or not this is a tie-in to Miquella being St. Trina because we know Miquella was well-versed in Golden Order Fundamentalism (having created an incantation for it as well) and that requires investment in both Faith and Intelligence.

  • @aifos5171
    @aifos5171 Рік тому +20

    3:22 their names are not the same in japanese though, Miquella is ミケラ (Mikera) while Quella is ネラ (Nera), for some reason they completely changed his name in the english translation. Still, that's a very interesting coincidence

    • @frazfrazfrazfraz
      @frazfrazfrazfraz Рік тому

      "for some reason they completely changed his name in the English translation"
      I assume "his" here is referring to Quella? Because as far as I can recall Quella isn't gendered
      Very interesting to know though

    • @OG-ColorfulAbyss.
      @OG-ColorfulAbyss. Рік тому

      This video literally shows you the in game description of a shield that quite clearly says Quella was a boy.

    • @frazfrazfrazfraz
      @frazfrazfrazfraz Рік тому

      @@OG-ColorfulAbyss. where? I only see it referring to the boy as a boy, not Quella?

    • @OG-ColorfulAbyss.
      @OG-ColorfulAbyss. Рік тому

      @@frazfrazfrazfraz okay yeah no, I read it wrong.

    • @frazfrazfrazfraz
      @frazfrazfrazfraz Рік тому

      @@OG-ColorfulAbyss. I think I understand. Are you claiming that the boy was Quella? Because I don't see anything in the English description that says so. The language seems to leave both the tree and the boy open to being the God
      The tree is said to have "divine powers", and being "of the dream world", on top of it being the "Grand Spirit Tree". It seems perfectly possible to me that Quella is the tree

  • @maxderrat
    @maxderrat Рік тому +3

    This was a great video to watch while eating my breakfast. Good catch with the whole Quella/Miquella thing. Regarding the double-helix... that's something we've been seeing since Dark Souls with the Caduceus. I wonder if the double helix might actually be a reference to that, given that we see the double helix/caduceus in at least one place in Elden Ring: on the robes of the Depraved Perfumer. You can see the hissing tongues of the snake on there.

    • @Ziostorm
      @Ziostorm  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! I have a feeling the helix/caduceus goes back to all the alchemy symbolism and themes. I’m sure if anyone could figure it out, you’d be the one

  • @algorithmicabyss4150
    @algorithmicabyss4150 Рік тому +47

    I think the double helix is meant to represent a duality, two separate things fused together into a greater whole, the Elden Beast & Elden Ring, Radagon & Marika, the greater will seems to really like putting things together to get most of best properties out of both.
    It’s a good thing the process isn’t quite perfect otherwise the Elden Ring wouldn’t have been a good enough weak point for Marika to fracture the Elden Beast’s outer barrier and leave it vulnerable enough for us to kill

    • @n8doggy733
      @n8doggy733 Рік тому +1

      Nice

    • @xaviermoreau-raymond9269
      @xaviermoreau-raymond9269 Рік тому +4

      Elden ring is based off the hermeticism and alchemy Hermes is show with the caduceus staff I think that’s closer to what it is instead of dna strand

    • @starcrawler77
      @starcrawler77 Рік тому

      @@xaviermoreau-raymond9269 yeah definitely caduceus

    • @IsaiahX7-13
      @IsaiahX7-13 Рік тому

      Those things aren't separate from the start though, the Elden Beast is the original form of the Elden Ring, and Marika is the original form of Radagon: he's a basically a clone her. I think the double helix is most likely a result of that symbolism being popular throughout human history, as opposed to being a deeper meaning.

    • @sanguillotine
      @sanguillotine Рік тому

      @@IsaiahX7-13Marika and Radagon were not always one. Melina literally recites a quote saying such.

  • @LastMegaMan
    @LastMegaMan Рік тому +5

    The pest larvae can also be found in the underground chambers of certain ruins. So one could propose the theory that they require something that's died or dying due to the rot itself.

  • @Crowlak
    @Crowlak Рік тому +5

    As pointed out by Queelag in one of her videos (I forget which), there are two models for the Kindred of Rot in the game. One has a red spike in the back of the neck, and the other doesn't. One such Kindred of Rot that has the spike is Gowry. Her theory is that this is spike is akin to the Cordyceps infection from The Last of Us and Gowry is puppeteering the Kindred of Rot and what we kill isn't actually his body.

  • @killzalottt
    @killzalottt Рік тому +7

    You're killing it keep it up

  • @Kaptime
    @Kaptime Рік тому +7

    The Helice pattern is also Miquella's braid pattern and appears on the summoning bell handle and Miquella's needle.

  • @RogetMusic
    @RogetMusic Рік тому +5

    6:50 Yes, the pitches range from about D7-F#7 (~2300-2800hz), but there really is no meaning to it. Sound designers often apply realtime pitch randomization to sounds to add variation, so that they don't get too spammy or start to phase... here it's pointless because there's only one instance of the sound, but it's possible the designer just copied a sound container that already had this variation in. Or maybe just wanted to mess with us, who knows 😉
    (Great vid as always!)

  • @LWmusik
    @LWmusik Рік тому +5

    About the Erudition notes: as a musician with good ear for tuning, I can hear way more than 4 notes. In fact, it's probably an entirely random pitch within a limited range, so it's very unlikely to hear the exact same tone twice during an entire playthrough (each of the ones in the video were unique). Randomizing the pitch of a sound effect every time it is played is a very common trick in games, because it makes the experience less repetitive for the player

    • @maggieheeren6319
      @maggieheeren6319 Рік тому

      probably randomized, but you can hear fundamental frequencies (and other frequencies, obvi)--I wonder if there is something to do with pitch more so than notes. Looks like the highest pitched tone was the character with the hat that gives you higher intelligence. And you get the gesture from the Thops questline...idk. Ascension n all that...

    • @giuuig
      @giuuig Рік тому

      Yeah looks like they randomized the pitch using sample and hold or something like that

    • @ancient7716
      @ancient7716 Рік тому

      Tones are between D and F as far as I can hear.

    • @ancient7716
      @ancient7716 Рік тому

      I wonder if using the same hat on different plays always make the same sound or not.

  • @darkmystic7764
    @darkmystic7764 Рік тому +3

    Ziostorm: This is probably the last secrets video.
    Also Ziostorm: Well uhm, heres more.

  • @xVibra
    @xVibra Рік тому +7

    The Caelid Waypoint ruins, where the Meteoric Ore Blade is, have the larvae of Kindred as well. I presume that the Servants of Rot used the nearby tombs to imbue dead bodies with the rot. I don't think that the larvae are necessarily larvae though. It's entirely possible that the Kindred are just the Cleanrot Knights, and the smaller versions are tarnished or other beings since they don't wield weapons, as most dead in tombs wouldn't.
    The Sellia Crystal Tunnel also has Kindred overseeing it, whose boss is a Fallingstar Beast, with 2 Kindred outside revering a shrine where the Faithful's Canvas Talisman is in the complete opposite direction, unlike the worshippers of the beast and its kin outside Leyndell. The Canvas talismans, one of which you get from Gowry, depict red haired, masked people as the "faithful," potentially referring to the daughters of Gowry. Even furthering the guarding theory, they also stand outside revering another aspect of Rot, again facing away from the cosmic creature, just outside of the area that Astel resides in the Lake of Rot. The Meteorite Staff and Rock Sling spell are also found surrounded by Servants of Rot. I presume they are trying to stifle, and guard the areas where you may be influenced by gravity magic, the cosmos and any potential cosmic outer god, and anyone who is tangentially associated with Radahn furthering the association that the Kindred are still serving Malenia, and not just the outer god. Their name Kindred of Rot, referred to as Pests in the 3rd person by their Glaive and Gowry, also aligns them as just associates rather than someone who serves only Rot making them being rot infected Cleanrot Knights even more likely. Gowry calling them Pests makes them seem like nuisances that are getting in the way, or that they may not be entirely devoted to Rot and the will of the outer god, and are just using power of the Rot for their own personal reasons.

    • @gvd72
      @gvd72 Рік тому

      Isn’t Gowry himself a pest?

  • @SuaatanaTube
    @SuaatanaTube Рік тому +30

    I think the DNA Helix thing actually symbolizes Marika's braid. It does in a way resemble a knitting hair.

    • @BathingInAcheron
      @BathingInAcheron Рік тому +5

      Miquella also has that pattern in his braids too

    • @Felipe-zp9tk
      @Felipe-zp9tk Рік тому +7

      or Marika's braid represents the dna helix

    • @mmyr8ado.360
      @mmyr8ado.360 Рік тому +3

      ​@@BathingInAcheron The braids may be an allusion to the Celtic knot, which can mean eternity.

    • @Mawal28
      @Mawal28 Рік тому +2

      You mean the braid is a manifestation of the double helix pattern as well

    • @Finnsta
      @Finnsta Рік тому +1

      with marika in mind perhaps the double helix is meant to symbolize the radagon/marika combo?

  • @billbene8280
    @billbene8280 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff as always man! Your take on the DS2 shields was very insightful, thanks for including it! I can't wait for DLC to drop and even more discoveries to be made 👍

  • @justVisfine
    @justVisfine Рік тому +4

    10:53 that's not actually Yhorm, thats Giant Lord, who i think is actually taller

  • @vikomonboii6737
    @vikomonboii6737 Рік тому +4

    Hey, before one minute. Love the secret series!

  • @enjoyincubran22
    @enjoyincubran22 Рік тому

    Terrific - as always, Zio!

  • @elias.t
    @elias.t Рік тому +1

    The Quella connection is spurious. It gets even worse when you find out that Quella's name in Japanese is actually Nera. DS2 is full of weird localisation differences like that in names. Vendrick is actually named Vanclad, Aldia is named An Deel, Nahr Alma is named Doroma and Targray is named Garaindook (???).

  • @SwordSaintOnion
    @SwordSaintOnion Рік тому +2

    "the shadow of the Erdtree" to me means the future. Living in the shadow of something often means said thing's time has passed. For example "he always lived in the shadow of his father."

  • @-S.a.k.
    @-S.a.k. Рік тому +2

    I just realized Miquella and St Trina could have a similar situation to Griffith and the Moonlight Boy. In terms of Alter Egos and possibly design. Where Miquela is the dominant ego and will slip into sleep for St Trina to take over briefly. Hoping the DLC covers more on it!

  • @zeracaitiff5956
    @zeracaitiff5956 Рік тому +2

    played almost every day since release and It was yesterday when i found out that Melina´s dagger is found heading back into the elevator from forbidden lands bf and jump off into the hidden corridor shortly after it starts moving up. Don´t think i have this seen being adressed in any capacity from the lore people so i assume it must be fairly unknown ?
    Double helix: i think it´s not a double helix but according to the mad perfumers armor it´s a "curse upon the erdtree" (something wrapping around the tree) something we´re most likely gonna see more of in the dlc i assume?

  • @evergaolbird
    @evergaolbird Рік тому +1

    I don't know if this will help but I took my time listening to those whistles and here's what I think I can hear from them.
    Rennala / Last one on the clip - F Sharp 6
    No Helmet - D6
    Radahn / Olinivus - D Sharp 6
    Ranni / Azur / Lusat - F6
    Sellen / Pointed Hat (+Alt) / Twinsage - E6

  • @Glocktopus129
    @Glocktopus129 Рік тому

    The double helix thing absolutely blew my mind. I never noticed but now it’s all I can see EVERYWHERE.

  • @CartrKillsGrunt
    @CartrKillsGrunt Рік тому +2

    Composer and sound designer here about the tones during the gesture. I’m thinking it’s less a case of the actual notes and more a case of pitch randomization. Wwise, FMOD, and other audio engines for games make it really easy to randomize the pitch of a cue to add some variation, and since all of the pitches seem to be around the same area, I’d wager that it’s a case of that personally.

  • @heathcipriani4507
    @heathcipriani4507 Рік тому

    i’m addicted to your content buddy. thank you and keep it coming. much ❤

  • @ZedricBullneck
    @ZedricBullneck Рік тому +4

    Ive always looked at the double helix as an symbol of ying and yang, light and dark, chaos and order, marika and radaghon, life and death. like its there to symbolize the pattern of the world in the lands between.

  • @Banana-senpai
    @Banana-senpai Рік тому +4

    The coil symbol is not a reference to DNA but to to the Caduceus (a rod with two coiled snakes), this being the symbol of the god Hermes and in turn of the later phylosophic system called Hermeticism which is in turn the origin and symbol of alchemy and medicine.
    There are great videos out there analysing the various conmections and inspirations elden ring got from alchemy, hermetism and gnosticism.

  • @DavidtheRam
    @DavidtheRam Рік тому +3

    A crucible is a container that allows transformation. A crucible is also a test or challenge to foster transformation. The DNA helix is the Crucible. The melting pot of life in the Lands Between hence the aspects of the crucible utilized by the crucible knights or the mismatched features of the misbegotten.

    • @g.d.o.cjacrispy9166
      @g.d.o.cjacrispy9166 Рік тому

      But what is the relationship between the black flame, giants flame, and holy objects. But I agree with your speculation of the melting point and dna

  • @r3gret2079
    @r3gret2079 Рік тому +1

    As Griffin Shawler posted earlier, we should name the dog "turtle", in reference to the turtles being called "dog". Goddamn great idea imo.

  • @quackerquack7332
    @quackerquack7332 Рік тому

    I respect that you postulate an idea/theory about the Cleanrot knights, but also provide evidence against the theory to be thorough. Good stuff, my man.

  • @SamiAlshammari93
    @SamiAlshammari93 Рік тому +2

    I love you guys for keeping this masterpiece still alive

  • @BenElliottSound
    @BenElliottSound Рік тому +1

    Regarding the "Erudition Notes," while I can't exactly confirm it, audio middleware like Wwise allows you to easily take a sound, and create slightly pitch altered versions of that sound, so up a higher pitch. Down a lower pitch. Etc. To me, this seems like a sound designer had this whistle sound for the gesture, but didn't want it to be the exact same every time, so with a few clicks, they made some pitch variations, and made it so which one plays when the gesture is done is randomized, which is another easy thing middleware like Wwise can do.

  • @benadrylcumbersplatch6448
    @benadrylcumbersplatch6448 Рік тому +1

    Holy shit that Godskin wakeup animation kinda blew my mind the most out of everything in this video, like damn, it's been a year and we're still finding whole mechanics that weren't even removed from the game

  • @Bigboy_smooth
    @Bigboy_smooth Рік тому +2

    I forgot which weapon description it was but it said something to the effect of “man has grown weak compared to his ancestors” and I instantly thought of Godfrey and the fire giants if ancient man was stronger than what we are now currently in the game then the Giants must of been massive. I think those are the skulls of those ancient giants we see in the game

  • @colinchildress1251
    @colinchildress1251 Рік тому +1

    I like to call the friendly dog Hyde, because he's hiding. I also like Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde.

  • @punkerdoodle6843
    @punkerdoodle6843 Рік тому +1

    I think the friendly dog should be called, “turtle!”

  • @colorgreen8728
    @colorgreen8728 Рік тому +3

    The helix represents life and the erdtree and the great tree give that life, but the godslayer greatsword takes it away, hence the unraveling helix

  • @Sourceality
    @Sourceality Рік тому

    okay that dog enemy was something new and i didnt think you could show me something new omg

  • @RommelStorm
    @RommelStorm Рік тому +1

    That dog attacked me when the Leonine Misbegotten roared. But there WAS one friendly dog in the other part of Leyndell. There were a couple of dogs, one big and one small. The small one didn't attack me. And I left him with meats and bones. Such a swell guy.

  • @GearShotgun
    @GearShotgun Рік тому

    The similarities between the Cleanrot knights and the pests is so clear when you point it out that I can’t believe I didnt see it before

  • @kronen9780
    @kronen9780 Рік тому +3

    great video, i think the cleanrot knights were the first of the insects and possibly in the haligtree they fond a way to reprodices. the Turtles name should be alvin which means friendly :)

    • @charlesqbanks
      @charlesqbanks Рік тому

      You can find the kindred of rot larvae in the underground grave ruins in Caelid as well, not just the Haligtree. Creepy spot.
      Caelum Ruins, I believe.

  • @famtomerc
    @famtomerc Рік тому

    On the helix: Not a solution/theory but I immediately recall Miriel's line: "All things can be conjoined"

  • @eamsamaraka486
    @eamsamaraka486 Рік тому +2

    i always thought the helix is just a visual representation of the rule of 2 entwined the game had. 2 trees, 2 idendeties or marika, 2 fingers (thats why 3 chaos), 2 omen brothers and so on.

  • @Luffa187
    @Luffa187 Рік тому

    Glad you finally talked about the giant skulls. There must be a mystery behind those.

  • @shakycam3
    @shakycam3 Рік тому +5

    I have probably played this game about 10 times and just the other day I noticed you can summon Melina for the Morgott fight. She does a crazy Tree healing spell and acts like a Black Knife.

    • @grimecube
      @grimecube Рік тому +2

      I'm more surprised you missed all the discussion about her in that fight than the summon sign itself lol

  • @rainmancw9022
    @rainmancw9022 Рік тому

    I have beat this game, however, everytime I see the videos I get excited. It's a beautiful land and great adventure. Can't wait to get into the DLC

  • @Beeyo176
    @Beeyo176 Рік тому

    Haven't played this game in months but I can't quit these videos

  • @readytogame83
    @readytogame83 Рік тому +3

    Yay new video 📹 ✨️

  • @platonios4666
    @platonios4666 Рік тому +1

    I think,the cleanrot Knights might have a needle of Miquella inside of them,thats why they are not as affected by scarlet rot that much,while the kindred of rot did lose the needle or didnt have one in the first place.

  • @4kgraphiccard
    @4kgraphiccard Рік тому +6

    wasn't expecting to be the absolute first view lmao

  • @kylebergen361
    @kylebergen361 Рік тому +1

    The non hostile dog should be called Turtle.

  • @adambejarano1592
    @adambejarano1592 Рік тому

    A lot of cool info!

  • @ahipmom3104
    @ahipmom3104 Рік тому +2

    The main use of shadows in the game are the shadows of the empyreans. Fromsoft tends to reuse language very specifically in their games, so I don't know what the title would be in Japanese but my guess is that it's thematically the same. In both cases they're protectors (Empyrean shadows, baleful shadows of the fingers) so I think it's the hidden protector of the erdtree, or something like that.

    • @kaseytormanen1904
      @kaseytormanen1904 Рік тому

      That's a pretty solid explanation. I took Shadow as influence/impact cast over something (all great basketball players live in the shadow of Michael Jordan). But your explanation is a bit more specific to the game lore itself. It will be interesting to see what it means.

  • @ozsun9736
    @ozsun9736 Рік тому

    To get more insight i really recommend Hawkshaw's video on mapping the Lands Between, thats how i got more of an idea on these giant skeletons

  • @Huntanor
    @Huntanor Рік тому +2

    In the shadow of is a common expression that means under the influence of. For example, the people of Gaul lived under the shadow of Rome even before the conquest. So it likely means relating to all influenced by the Golden Order.

  • @lowliifer
    @lowliifer Рік тому

    That friendly Turtle is so nice.

  • @adamwestervelt730
    @adamwestervelt730 Рік тому +1

    If you look carefully at the red splinter in Merika @12:00 it looks to have this same Helix.

  • @AtreyusNinja
    @AtreyusNinja Рік тому

    Amazing to see more ds2 stuff in er, love that

  • @IDDQDSound
    @IDDQDSound 9 місяців тому

    Music/game audio guy here. I don’t think there’s a conspiracy with the erudition gesture tones. There’s also more than four or five tones. It’s a range. Elden Ring’s audio and sound design is implemented in the game using the software Wwise. There you can assign sound effects to events which are basically any action you wanna have a sound for. However for events that can re-occur in quick succession, it can become very synthetic sounding if the same sound plays over and over. So in Wwise you can randomize various parameters like the loudness, pitch, and even frequency content of sounds so that it’s not the exact same sound. You see this pitch randomization also occur when you’re buying and selling stuff and even the pitch of death sounds and rune acquisition gets randomized.

  • @mundusmamon5834
    @mundusmamon5834 Рік тому +2

    The Miquella lore gave me goosebumps.

    • @Radiotomb
      @Radiotomb Рік тому

      Gonna be hilarious to see the apologists cry, when the ER DLC ends up having nothing to do with ds2, aka Shit Souls Poo.

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 8 місяців тому

    The twisting pattern all throughout the Lands Between is an indicator that a mark has been made on the land. A mark that compels you to make us whole.

  • @Khamurai
    @Khamurai Рік тому +1

    Dogfrey, the first good doggo

  • @thatll-do7606
    @thatll-do7606 Рік тому +1

    11:11 To quote Miriel, "All things can be conjoined", perhaps this is just a motif of that philosophy? One of the major themes of Elden Ring is duality, like Radagon and Marika, the split Hallowbrand, the Twin Hunters D, and so on. And if the Godslayers stand against the Erdtree, and this conjoined philosophy, it would make sense that they would have a weapon that reflects unraveling

  • @JimGryp
    @JimGryp Рік тому

    Killing Gowry, you discover a Kindred of Rot dead body in his place. So definitelly your theory about transformation makes more sense now

  • @charlesqbanks
    @charlesqbanks Рік тому +1

    Just so all can see, there are more Kindred of Rot larvae in the Caelum Ruins crypt, not just in the Haligtree, which seems to indicate that the kindred of Rot life cycle grow from out of the dead.

  • @Night-Lord
    @Night-Lord Рік тому +1

    It’s starting to feel like Dark Souls 2 was the foundation for what would become Elden Ring both in gameplay and conceptually. It just feels like Elden Ring really resonates with it’s older sibling

    • @kaseytormanen1904
      @kaseytormanen1904 Рік тому +1

      It reminds me of how Castlevania II was a flawed attempt that ultimately gave birth to Symphony of the Night.

    • @Night-Lord
      @Night-Lord Рік тому

      @@kaseytormanen1904 Yes! That’s a perfect comparison

  • @Josh-uw4sq
    @Josh-uw4sq Рік тому +1

    I’ve always wondered about the massive skeletons, as in who are they? What happened to them? As nothing in the game comes close to them except maybe a few dragons

  • @marvcollins7842
    @marvcollins7842 Рік тому +1

    Very smart of the Godskins to wake each other up. Really wish it worked in the base game.

  • @majones7030
    @majones7030 Рік тому +1

    You said the tree doesn’t cast a shadow, but doesn’t it specifically do that? I feel like if you stand still in game the shadow creeps over you. I may be tripping but the impression I got was that it was the tree looking at you when it could.

  • @theeldenringenjoyer1872
    @theeldenringenjoyer1872 Рік тому

    The fact that Godfrey managed to exterminate these giants tho, it’s next level attack of Titan.
    Imagine he would solo the frickin rumble himself !

  • @danielortega7657
    @danielortega7657 Рік тому

    I love the Miquella=DS2 God of dreams connection. Ds2 had so many cool story ideas that weren't used.

  • @Stalennin
    @Stalennin Рік тому

    The spiral I think is just keeping in line with Miyazaki's heavy inspiration from Berserk

  • @jonaswest6993
    @jonaswest6993 Рік тому

    The Depraved Perfumer set talks about the Helix symbol around the erdtree being a curse upon the tree itself.

  • @ScarletEdge
    @ScarletEdge Рік тому +1

    While watching the section about scarlet rot, it came to my mind that maybe haligtree was supposed to suck out the rot that infested malenia, when the process became incomplete due to Mohg kidnapping Miquella, it became a place where larvae were created as some kind of inverted process of what Erdtree does with it's births.

  • @AtomicRiftYT
    @AtomicRiftYT Рік тому

    My thought about the double helix in reference to Elden Ring is that perhaps it's DIRECTLY rooted the the main two laws of the Golden Order. The Law of Causality and Regression-- an unfurling (Causality, an action occurring), then coming back together (Regression, stated that all things have a desire to return to their roots). Cause and effect, happening in a loop, which is exactly what the Golden Order preaches as the fundamentals of reality.

  • @bowzur
    @bowzur Рік тому +1

    Damn this video gave me the chills :D

  • @user-jt7pn9qg4g
    @user-jt7pn9qg4g Рік тому +1

    The double helix is actualy more likly to be a dipiction of the caduceus. Elden ring is full of ocult and alchemical references. The best example is Marika/Radagon. Its literaly a Rebis.

  • @enfrax
    @enfrax Рік тому +4

    the godskin discovery is quite interesting. i'm pretty sure they left it the way it is on purpose. great video, thank you!

  • @ight001
    @ight001 Рік тому +1

    The Giants of the lands between used to be that size during the time before Marika's war with the Giants. If you look at the crucible containing the flame that burns the Erdtree you can see chains dangling from it. It's likely that the original giants carried that crucible across the lands between and perhaps even from else where.
    Tarished Archaeologist has some great videos about this kind of thing and I really recommend checking out some of his series.

  • @nightscout9979
    @nightscout9979 Рік тому +1

    The Cleanrot Knights seem to slump in pain and prop themselves up on their sides, whereas the Kindred of Rot stand normally, just with a natural hunch, and hold their weapons at the ready in a body-crossing pose. Between this and the Kindred larvae also in Caelid, the Knights probably don't become the Kindred. However, I've heard that the Knights possibly have vermin mixed into their vomit attack, if those aren't mushroom chunks, so the Cleanrot Knights might be infested a la the Chestburster in Alien. Also, the wing-like design on the Cleanrot Knights' armor appears to just be cloth, though they do have mushrooms winding around their bodies, and said mushrooms are named "cordyceps" in the game's files, which Zullie discovered in a video.
    Regarding the peaceful dog in Leyndell, wasn't it reported that if you quit out of the game in front of him, then load back into the game, his aggressive AI will activate?
    To elaborate on the double helix, one of the first major enemies in the game, the Tree Sentinel, has the double helix pattern on the spike atop his Golden Halberd, and the weapon features a lot of winding, overlapping layers in general. This double helix design can also be seen on the tree symbol depicted on the Tree Sentinel's cape. These details are shared across all Tree Sentinels (not the Draconic ones though), and there are even small double helix patterns running along the bottom and up the sides of some Erdtree banners throughout Leyndell. This is significant because fans have speculated that the Golden Order shunned the double helix, yet this is not the case, as the symbol actually appears throughout the Golden Order's military and is likewise in plain sight, albeit not as prominently as with other banners, symbols, etc.
    It's cool to learn that there are even more tones for Erudition! Do those additional tones also line up with Astel's theme, as you mentioned in the separate Erudition video?
    Finally, regarding the secret Godskin interaction, wasn't it also said that the hidden enemy governing the Godskin Duo's shared HP bar also caused the "wake up ally" ability to glitch out? This means that even if you kill every enemy around the Godskin Duo's boss fight, the HP bar enemy will nonetheless cause the ability to not work. The reason the ability works in some randomizers is that the HP bar enemy will be loaded in a spot further away from the Duo than it is in Farum Azula.
    Thanks again for the videos, Ziostorm!

  • @fourthplateau944
    @fourthplateau944 Рік тому

    Good catch on the shields. Dark souls one shields mention golden trees also.

  • @elisej-i3023
    @elisej-i3023 Рік тому

    According to my husband, a professional musician in like three performing bands right now, the four notes associated with the Erudition gesture are D, D#, E, and F. It's four consecutive notes of a basic scale, not associated with any chord progression or traditional melodic sequence. Maybe I'll commission him to write an assonant metal song. Great find!
    Also in regards to the double helix, I think underneath it's crypticism, it's actually pretty simple. From my point of view the game actually does a lot to spell it out for us: solve et coagula. Causality and regression, push and pull, separation and coagulation. Divergence and convergence, and all that implies 👀...

    • @Sinhsseax
      @Sinhsseax Рік тому

      Wait a minute, do you mean to say, that Golden Order Fundamentalism is just one giant innuendo?

  • @ariokhthio190
    @ariokhthio190 Рік тому

    That erudition whistle, remind me of black hole sound, maybe that supposed to be the sound of primeval current.

  • @22demitria
    @22demitria Рік тому

    I began to think about the pure gold of Miquella and the gold in alloy of the Golden Order and I have found out several things.
    So I have been researching about gold as a material and chemical element and finally I have discovered things like:
    - It is sensitive and soluble to mercury, which was formerly considered liquid silver (curiously, there are many references to this in the Eternal Cities).
    - A study claims that it was created in the supernovae of stars (I'm shocked at this)
    - Formerly it was used to treat the black plague without results.
    - It was believed that it could delay aging since it is highly resistant to corrosion.
    - It is associated with the Sun (I have the hypothesis that One Great was the Sun and that the Greater Will is the part of light and the Flame of Frenzy the part of fire and heat). Scientifically speaking the Sun is vital for the development of life.

  • @andershofsten6142
    @andershofsten6142 Рік тому

    As a technical sound designer for videogames I can say that most games uses a slight random pitch when playing assets. Thinking about the different tones; fairly certain this is just slight random pitch on playback while selecting from a list of assets.

  • @TonkarzOfSolSystem
    @TonkarzOfSolSystem Рік тому

    Erdtree Grace makes living things bigger as part of the healing, strengthening and renewing effect it has. The giants skulls are probably part of an ancient civilization that got so full of erdtree grace for so long that they became huge.
    (This civilization must pre-date the Erdtree, but the Greater Will and the Elden Beast both predate the Erdtree).