Here's the thing: The glass bottle is why Mexican Coke tastes better. It chills better, holds carbonation better, and doesn't leach plastics into the Coke.
You are spot on about the carbonation leaking out of the plastic bottles. In fact the two litter plastic bottles leak so much of the gas that they are filled w/ about @ 4 to 5 times the carbon dioxide gas then it contains when we open it. Apparently the 2 litter bottles will fail upon filling them at the plant and it sounds like cannon shots.
@@KPC-123 I'm certain that's the case. I like to buy soda during sales and stockpile it. I've learned the hard way that plastic-bottled soda does not keep. I can keep canned soda for close to a year whereas I MAY get a couple of weeks out of plastic bottles, and they are usually undercarbonated to suit me. Mexican Coke on the other hand I have kept for over a year with zero loss of carbonation or flavor. Why is it that beer manufacturers get it but softdrink companies don't?
I'm from Mexico and i actually felt the change in coke flavor, it used to taste better, even the change of sweetener it always taste better when it comes from a glass bottle
Yeah it never went anywhere, nor was it ever hard to find. Are you in need of some cause I can send you a couple of cases. He seems depressed in that cabin.
one of your commenters pointed out that sucrose will break down into fructose and glucose over time and this breakdown is hastened in an acidic environment.
Mexican here. I actually remember trying the US coke when I was young and thinking it tasted horribly compared to Coca back in México. Also, here in México we have a "belief" that coca-cola in glass bottles actually tastes better, I myself believe it. It's just so refreshing to drink an ice-cold coke from a glass bottle.
Hey Johnny! Love your videos. Just wanted to add: Sucrose is a chemical compound with 1 molecule of glucose and 1 molecule of fructose, in 50%:50% ratio. High fructose corn syrup I think is about 40%:60% glucose to fructose . Once the sugar is dissolved in the syrup it disassociates into glucose and fructose in the presence of phosphoric acid. This process is called sugar inversion and is a very interesting concept on its own. But i think this would explain why the researchers did not find any sucrose in the sampled beverages! Just my 0.002$ I run a small craft soda company in Pakistan and hence have been researching sodas, sugars & their chemistry for the last two years :)
wow!! intersting insight! I didnt go into the exact findings of the paper in the video but they did look at ratios for their conclusion. quoting from the study: " For example, for the Mexican CocaCola sample, the label lists only “sugar,” but no sucrose was detected by HPLC. Instead, the laboratory analysis detected a 52:48 ratio of free fructose-to-glucose...., the Mexican Coca-Cola lists “sugar” on the ingredient list, but the laboratory did not detect any sucrose, but rather near equal amounts of fructose and glucose, results which suggest the use of HFCS." the exact ratio was 52:48 and they are saying that the near 50/50 split points toward HFCS (which is different than what you mention of the 50/50 being characteristic of sucrose). so now Im VERY curious. I'm sooo close to calling up the people who did this study to ask them this stuff. Maybe there is hope for my Mexican Coke identity afterall! hahah. Thanks again for the perspective!
The glass bottle is reused here in Mexico. We take the empty bottle to the store, and we get a new one that’s full. Edit: Yes, it costs money. If you don’t have a bottle to trade in for the new one, they charge you extra.
This is pretty bad as tho the US banned re-usable bottles for a long time ago thanks to the poor sanitisation problems in industries. In Mexico all this beautiful glass bottles commonly end with urine and cigarette residues. Enjoy! ;) Saludos desde México.
could you make a video about chiapas mexico and how they consume more coke than water cause the bottling plant sucked up all the local water so now coke is cheaper and more abundant than water
Coke Corp made a plant to extract water coz there was none, they out their money to make it i am Mexican and we were teach since middle school to blame capitalism for our decisions and mistakes, Chiapas have rivers lakes and a ocean but people with Zero education of how to purified water coz be been teach that our government have to take care of us
Can you make a video about Washington DC USA and how the so called politics are so corrupt and how the sheeple need to wake up and how they want to invade Mexico for their own person gain. Got money for wars but can’t feed the poor?
I'm in Mexico and I feel like I have to mention this as I didn't read anyone else mentioning it. But we actually have 2 cokes now in Mexico. Sugar coke still exists but it's sold only in small volume bottles that are now at a higher price with the tag "sabor original" (original flavour) and all the other presentations of coke in a regular price and different volumes read "mismo sabor menos azúcar" (same flavour less sugar) which is completely untrue. And you really can taste the difference buying the two. The original flavour ones actually run out pretty quickly from convenience and grocery stores:(
@@lloydjim1024 Yeah, a lot of low-price brands I know sneak in some artificial sweetener in their non-light soft drinks and I somehow always notice. I'm guessing it's their way of getting around the soft drink tax. In Mexico, just reduce the sugar content.
Oi Johnny, it seems like you may have glossed over an important detail regarding the analysis of mexican coke. Sucrose will slowly split into glucose and fructose over time when in solution. It's usually fairly stable but the conversion is strongly accelerated in acidic environments like coca cola which has a bunch of phosphoric acid in it. "Hydrolysis can also be accelerated with acids, such as cream of tartar or lemon juice, both weak acids. Likewise, gastric acidity converts sucrose to glucose and fructose during digestion, the bond between them being an acetal bond which can be broken by an acid." [From Wikipedia] What this means is that even if the mexican cola was manufactured using only cane sugar. Given enough time, the sucrose may all split up into glucose and fructose in a 50/50 ratio. Corn syrup starts out as a very concentrated solution of nearly pure glucose. Fructose is about 3x sweeter so smart people found a way to convert glucose into fructose to make a much sweeter product with the same starting material. Hence the birth of HFCS. You could sweeten way more soda with a bucket of high fructose corn syrup and even sucrose. One of the documents you briefly flashed in the video actually mentions HFCS 55 which is the sweetener most commonly used for sodas. It's 55% fructose, 45% glucose which makes it sweeter than sucrose by a bit. If you ran an analysis on american sodas, you should see the total sugar content to be split up into approx 55% fructose and 45% glucose. If you run the same process on sucrose sweetened soda which has had enough time to split into the simple sugars, there should be a measure of approx 50% fructose, 50% glucose. The results on the mexican coke are interesting since it's neither the 55:45 or 50:50 distribution we'd expect with either process. It's about 52% fructose. I think this could be explained in 2, maybe 3 ways. 1. The process used to measure the sugars has a certain amount of uncertainty which could lead to those deviations from the expected values. (In this case about +-4% error) Edit 2: I just went through the paper and it turns out that their sugar tests had measurement errors ranging from 2.6% to 8.7% when measuring the content in standardized solutons. This is pretty much enough info to plausibly chalk up the 52% value to instrumental error. Making this whole video pointless. New title: JOHNNY ASSUMED THAT MEXICAN COKE IS A LIE DUE TO A VERY RELAXED READ UP ON A SINGLE LAB EXPERIMENT AND THE NEED TO PRODUCE MORE OUTRAGE CAUSING CONTENT TO APPEASE THE ALGORITHM AND GET MORE VIEWS. (I like your content Johnny but please try to be more careful with your assertions of facts considering that your audience is steadily growing). Your mexican coke is still maybe tastier for now maybe. 2. Mexican cola producers may be using a mixture of cane sugar and HFCS 55. 3. Maybe the mexican cola producers are using pure cane sugar and the test is accurate however the glucose is partially binding to other components in the soda (like in protein glycosilation) while the fructose is left free in solution. TLDR: 52% fructose measured in mexican coke with a high margin of error isn't strong enough evidence to assume that it's abandoned cane sugar and your preference is just suggestibility (although it may very well be) BTW, the link you provided for the study backing this video sent me to a 404 page. It's broken. Edit: Here's a link to the paper: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1038/oby.2010.255
I definitely thought it was weird when he said sucrose was "chemically very different" from fructose and glucose, as sucrose is just a glucose molecule bonded to a fructose molecule. He definitely should have consulted with a chemist before releasing this one.
If you go to Mexico, and purchase coke whether it be in a can, plastic or glass, it will have "pure cane sugar" listed on the ingredients. I have seen this myself on every bottle I have ever bought while in Mexico and it absolutely tastes different.
Agreed. I've seen the same label countless times. The cane sugar formation tastes much better and leaves a clean palette. I seriously doubt Mexican Coke bottlers would mislabel their product given the liability and steep FDA penalties if caught. Moreover, their US competitors would likely pressure FDA take action against the Mexican imports demanding imports abide by the same rules. I call bullshit on this video.
@@bobweiram6321 "I seriously doubt Mexican bottlers would mislabel", so coke will sponsor anti-union death squads but won't lie about an ingredient? 😂
Not true I have some imported street vendor coca cola bottles and the import label states cane sugar but on the bottle cap in very fine print it lists hfcs as an ingredient
@@callidusvulpes5556 yeah it’s soo weird,when I drink coke from a bottle it tastes worse than when I put it in a glass cup and drink it Amelica explan 😫
@@aliteralpieceofbread3373 well that wouldnt make sense since wlthe reason cannned coke doesnt taste as good is the can liner and plastic bottled coke has plastic traces in it. You're just pouring the tainted stuff into a glass so thats in your head
A1 steak sauce bottles have text on them that says original recipe. But then it lists high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. That was not in existence when A1 steak sauce was invented.
@@Smoothblue90 I have caught that on some other products that claimed to be made using "the original recipe" , I would look up all of the ingredients and several times I have found some that did not exist when they started making the product.
We need to bring back the cocaine-laced original formula. We can do this ourselves at the grass-roots "in the hood" level. We'll call it "Cracka-Cola".
COKE IS NO LONGER MADE WITH THE KOLA NUT AND THE SECRET RECIPE/INGREDIENT NO LONGER EXISTS. IT TAKES OVER 12 CHEMICAL REACTIONS TO CREATED THE FLAVOR FOR COKE AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES PEPSI. NEARLY ALL SOFT DRINK FLAVORS AND THAT ALSO GOES FOR FOODS ARE CREATED BY MIXING CHEMICALS TOGETHER AND THE REACTIONS BETWEEN THESE CHEMICALS CREATE THE FLAVORING. LOOK AT ALL THE KIDS GETTING CANCER. WE LIVE IN A SINISTER SYSTEM AND THE BEST WAY TO CHANGE IT "IS TO NOT BUY IT".
@@tharblin THE GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY THE DEVIL SATAN. HE IS THE ONE THAT PUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THEIR LUST FOR GREED TO TAMPER WITH OUR FOODS THAT HAS MADE EVERYBODY SICK WITH ALL KINDS OF DISEASES. THE DEVIL IS A REAL LIVING BEING THAT CAN MATERIALIZE AND YOU CAN PHYSICALLY TOUCH IT.
Actually, there are two kinds of "Sabor Original" (Original Flavor), one of them labeled "Sabor Original, menos Azucar" (Original Flavor with less sugar) which feels more watery and less fizzy. Somehow Coke notice that customer like me who are old school and likes sugar a dislike this and change it.... but what I really think is that they are lying to us, they just drop the "menos azucar" (Less sugar) label... but sell us that crap, less sugared product anyway. Not 100% sure about this but anyhow Coca-Cola doesn't taste like Coca-Cola anymore!
Coca cola options in México (as I've just seen in an Oxxo in Chihuahua) 1 Coca Cola Original 2 Coca Cola sin azúcar (sugar free) 3 Coca Cola Light (light coke) 4 Coca Cola con Café (coke and Coffee a new more like an energy drink) So no Sugar only corn syrup according to this
On a recent trip to the US coming from Australia I noticed coke tasted very different and not as good, I immediately noticed the difference without knowing it was sweetened with HFCS. Australian coke is so much better than American coke in my opinion and is sweetened with cane sugar.
The Coca-Cola company owns 35% of Coca-Cola Amatil in Australia. I believe that they are some-what independent of Coca-Cola Company in decision making.
In Mexico, coca cola bottling companies have regional concessions, and they purchase the syrup from coca cola and they provide the other two components (the water and the sweetener). Coca cola in reality only sells the unsweetened concentrated syrup. When you buy a coca cola in mexico, you can look at the bottle or can and if the ingredient says "azucar" (meaning sugar, in singular) that means it's cane sugar, and if it says "azucarES" (meaning sugarS, in plural), then there is corn syrup in it.
Also Glass coke bottles from mexico usually have a yellow cap, that means it uses cane suggar. "Mexican coke" sold in the U.S have the red cap and that means it uses corn syrup. I think there is more to it but since i cross the border verry often i can say that they do taste different.
That's the way it was here in the states for a very long time. Until companies got greedy and cheap like they are now. Now it's throw away and buy new.
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 The cans are pretty easy to recycle and worth it for companies, because of how valuable metal is. Unfortunately when it comes to plastic, they are MUCH more picky. Not only that, but often times it's cheaper just to make NEW plastic. Heck the amount of times you can Reuse Plastic is 1-2 times. Now we USED to send Plastic to China to Recycle, but now that they have more than enough, China will send it wherever. Even then stuff would fall into the Ocean an other stuff.
The Mexican cokes with the red caps use cane sugar, and says so on the list of ingredients. The ones with the gold caps use HFCS, but calls it sugar on the list of ingredients. All of the clips you showed of the people saying it tasted so much better were drinking from the red cap ones, and they do taste WAY better.
Ok so after rewatching the video iv noticed something. Either he's fooling us into thinking theres no sucrose or he's just really that dumb. Ima go wit the latter. So, first off, in the beginning where he "supposedly" read that it only says sugar on the bottle he doesnt even try to show us the ingredient list. He never even shows us taking a sip, i kno i would've. 2nd off, when he shows us the 4pk, again he doesnt show us the ingredient list, he just spins it around but luckily after a youtube update you can zoom in to the video now and you can zoom in a lot. @daniel u said the red caps is the mark of original cane sugar right but so how was he holding one with a yellow cap? When the other bottles he had were red caps? Thats what threw me off to begin with. Thankfully for one of the last youtube updates u can zoom in on video and i paused it at the moment he turn the box to the ingredient list and u can tell it says SUCROSE. Also the four bottles in the beginning of the vid r diff sizes wit the yellow bottle caps being the smaller and having the sticker tag on top half. The real mexican coke r slightly taller and the sticker tags r on the bottom half.
Yes, Mexican coke has corn syrup formulas now, but those are mainly for the Mexican Market. The expensive coke that gets exported to the USA is supposed to use cane sugar. But either way, the Mexican coke formula is still slightly different than American.
@Damian Smith Well I think there's some confusion between the "Mexican Coke" sold in Mexico and the "Mexican Coke (Brand)" produced for export to the USA. The study quoted said they found HFCS in "Mexican Coke", but "Mexican Coke (Brand)" for USA export is labeled as cane sugar. Is this something you could expand upon?
@@Long-Horse when I said los pollos hermanos, I was referring to the restaurant from the hit show breaking bad. The restaurant in the show sell and smuggles a lot of drugs for the Mexican cartels. So I'm joking about the comment
There could be a reason why it might taste different though . As plastics and metals infuse lot more particles into the liquids compared to glass containers .
It’s been studied, there is no taste difference whatsoever, blind tests simply couldn’t prove it. All of their products are coated with the same material, so there just isn’t any difference.
That happens in all latinamerican countries, we also have "retornable" bottles made of hard plastic, in those bottles you can see the scratches that the previous buyer left in it lol
I remember reading that it was common worldwide 30 o 40 years ago but the system got replaced with cheaper non reusable bottles. In Mexico Coca-Cola still sells 600ml, 1L Glass and 2L plastic reusable bottles but in a small scale. What we still use and a lot are the reusable 19L plastic bottle ("Garrafon" we call it) for purified water thanks to a shitty city water system requiring extra filtering steps. When I was a kid (90's) there were glass 19L bottles but they were super heavy.
In Canada we have a bunch of "local flavors" in glass bottles that specifically say Cane Sugar in the ingredients. I think they only started showing up a few years ago though.
way back chocolate was being made in canada and exported to usa by american companies because sugar was cheaper in canada because of the us sugar lobby imposing duties on sugar but not on chocolate.
“Cool retro bottle” I remember when I was growing up and visiting Mexico every summer in the 90’s that retro bottle was just the bottle. And it’s refundable, so a household would rinse and put in a bag and then take the empties to the local store for a refund. It wasn’t rare to see a used bottle with tons of scratches or the label being super faded and worn to be in the rotation. Then of course is the real nostalgic way to drink coke in Mexico... poured into a plastic bag, with a straw. That way you don’t need to worry about returning the bottle, the merchant already kept it. This was most common in plazas and common public areas since it was expected you would walk around holding the bag and drinking the coke right away.
dude, i'm mexican... it haven't change. I still have like 20 bottles of those and when i go to buy one i need to bring and old one or else i will get charged more. And if the stores want, you can even go and refund the empty bottles.
Yea giving back the bottle to the merchant for the deposit is done elsewhere too, we have machines to do that for cans and pop bottles in canada and beer bottles you go to the counter. You pay that deposit when buying the product. What's sad is my dad have a full bag of US monster cans he can't deposit. It's just trash :/
It's still like this in Germany. Reusable glass bottles are just the best way to keep drinks taste great without polluting the environment. I think the US should establish reusable bottles again.
@@sock8211 jokes on him, I use an adblocker whenever I see new channels and I used the fast forward feature. It's like that Modern Rogue channel, 15 minutes of verbal masturbation and 5 minutes of cool, except there's nothing cool about a grown ass man bitching about Coca Cola, Starbucks must be closed.
Here in the Minneapolis area, for years up until maybe about 15 years ago, "Mexican Coke" was largely only sold in visibly well worn thick 16 oz glass bottles marked "retornable", found in the Mexican food isle of the local grocery store chain. The fun of it was the 16 oz glass bottle, practically identical to those sold in the US decades ago, and the real sugar based Coca Cola. I used to buy them for my grandma who enjoyed it as a treat. Then, those 12 oz "no retornable" glass bottles started appearing. The 12 oz ones were sold alongside the 16 oz ones for awhile, and I recall we both thought the 12 oz one tasted slightly different... but it could've been a placebo effect. The 16 oz bottle being what we normally bought "back in the day", I continued to grad the 16 oz bottles when they had them, then they disappeared one day with only the 12 oz bottles left to be found. That was around the time "Mexican Coke" started to get "big" and restaurants began to add them to their menus and stores like Sams Club and Costco started to stock 24 packs of them.
He had enough time to research all that and never learned about inverting sugar. It's not the same as HFCS, which is 55% fructose and 45% glucose (hence high fructose) where inverted cane sugar is a 50/50 blend. Sugar inversion is the first step in many soda recipes because it makes it taste sweeter for the same amount of sugar, so it costs less.
Yeah so I went to the source he cited and "the fructose‐to‐glucose ratio of the drinks containing HFCS as the exclusive source of fructose revealed that the percentage of fructose was nearly always higher than 55%, " and the Mexican coke was below that threshold so that kinda says smth.
Cane sugar is not a "blend." It's a disaccharide molecule containing one glucose molecule and one fructose molecule chemically bonded via an oxygen atom. Inverted sugar is *not* necessarily cheaper that raw sucrose. The process for inverting sucrose involves heating which incurs energy costs, and the perceived increase in sweetness is so subtle that it's probably a wash. In the food industry there are other reasons for inverting sugar, especially if the resulting syrup, dough or whatever is intended to undergo fermentation as in beers, breads or cakes. Invert sugar is more fermentable by than raw sucrose, but in most cases it's far less expensive to just use corn sugar.
I work in a factory making another cola brand. We got the syrup without the sugar /sweetner. It is then mixed with sugar solution (beet sugar) and water before carbonating it. The sugar is not undergoing any heat treatment to invert it to glucose and fructose. Maybe coca cola has another process where sugar are heated in acidic solution to split the sucrose? While cola is very acidic by the phosphorous acid (the raw syrup has warning signs for corrosive.) the temperature to invert the sugar can be as low as 50 degrees celcius. No problem to reach those temperatures in a mixing process. And split the sugar by purpose.
@@johnalbert2102 Thank you for your clarity. For me, I just want the original product made with Sugar. The one I drank as a king in the early 70's/ If that is not coming from Mexico anymore then I know when I can find it in the USA and I will simple stock up more.
"Man, I prefer Peruvian Coke personally. When that shit hits man I feel so ALIVE. Like I could stay up all night long. My face goes numb." ~We're talking about Coca-Cola right? "What?"
This is all very incorrect. Just because American coke is similar in its fructose to glucose ratio as Mexican coke doesn’t mean both contain the same high fructose corn syrup. Production of corn syrup is a man made process, and that form of extracting fructose can be manipulated to different tastes. For instance, Mexican coke may use HFCS 42 which means its fructose to glucose ratio is 42:58 while American coke uses HFCS 55 making its ratio 55:45. Normal table sugar (sucrose) is 50:50 so Mexican coke, even if it uses high fructose corn syrup, would still taste closer to the real sugar deal thus why so many people prefer the Mexican coke. This whole video is so uninformed. I’m just a student and the paper you’re referring to didn’t support your views, you extrapolated their conclusion that Mexican coke has high fructose corn syrup to fit your clickbait video idea. Sigh.
Coca-Cola switched to Coke in the 80s people got so mad because it tasted like crap, so they went back to Coca-Cola. But what you don’t know is they did that on purpose so you would forget what the original Coca-Cola tasted like and then they switched from sugar to corn syrup and nobody could tell the difference when they re-introduced Coca-Cola.
@@banzaibailey5891 I can detect though it is given some better work at duplicating the original taste it is not the same as the original 50's • I skipped all the why as there are no replacements nor will there be > Everything is junk now Z-Lineal have complete control of all social interaction and have gutted US Based same as they did the Balkan NATO thing
I’m not so sure this was “the plan” but I don’t doubt it helped people transition. I can spot corn syrup from a fuckin mile away so this has never been a real problem for me but yea
some countries coke still tastes better, I never tried the mexican one but in Thailand it's definitely made from cane sugar. I drank lots of this stuff until I decided to stop because I started getting old and fat too fast. Now I am back in Canada and I make my own soda from scratch.
I noticed this myself. A few months ago I got an overpriced Mexican coke at a Home Depot. Glass bottle, but disappointing flavor. It tasted like any other Coke in the US. Now I know why.
I saw a video which basically said mexican coke exists in two variants. One being with HFCS, the other with cane sugar. It’s apparently a difference in labels. Could be that they tested the one with HFCS instead of the „real“ one.
my dad claims the only reason it tastes better is because it comes in a glass bottle. it has to do with the way you drink it. makes you taste differently since a lot of tasting is done with the nose and drinking from a glass bottle changes how air reaches you "smell buds"
Makes sense. Cups really effect the way drinks taste, another factor is how materials cool liquids, glass is a much better cooling material then plastic, which means the taste is more 'pure' and authentic to how it's supposed to taste. As an aside, I swear drinking water out of a glass cup and plastic cup are radically different experiences.
I'm from Honduras. Without knowing any of all this, when I first visited US a few years ago I tasted a Coke and instantly felt it was just wrong. I had a hard time finishing it. I didn't buy any other coke there again. My country produces a lot of sugar, so I'm confident that we still use real sugar here.
Yo igual fui el año pasado y me supo cuando te sirves un vaso de coca con hielos pero pasa tanto tiempo que los hielos se derriten y se hacen agua entonces queda rebajado, te supo parecido a eso? Saludos
Or the texture of the glass touching your lips is more appealing than plastic or aluminum. It could also be that plastic and aluminum leaches into the product, changing the flavor.
Exactly glass allows higher pressure so more CO2 and does not allow oxidation of the contents. That is why beer is still never packaged in plastic bottles.
"Let me tell you about what I've learned about this Mexican coke over the past few days sitting here in isolation," sounds really bad out of context. 😂
I had a Coke in Mexico in 2014. It was in a glass bottle from a vending machine. The taste immediately transported back to my childhood in the 1970s. Until that moment, I had forgotten how good Coke used to taste. I had never heard anything about Mexican Coke being different.
the thing is, Coca Cola in Mexico belongs to FEMSA, a local company. It's sort of a distributor in a MAJOR scale (FEMSA takes care of distribution even in some South American countries), and FEMSA implemented an strategy of having production in every city, and they buy the ingredients available at the time and place. Not all Mexican Coca Cola is equal and that's where this video is wrong.
"FEMSA owns 47.9% of the world's largest bottler of Coca-Cola by volume, Coca-Cola FEMSA, S.A. de C.V. (NYSE: KOF), which operates in ten countries covering the metropolitan area of Mexico City, southeast Mexico, Central America, South America, and the Philippines."
México moved to corn syrup for a similar reason than America at the turn of the century. The government here is so corrupt the former president Felipe Calderón managed to use his government influence to buy all sugar production for himself, increasing the prices, leading to Coca-Cola moving to corn syrup in Mexico too. Any sugar based Coca-Cola bottle brought from Mexico was bottled prior to 2009. It was not the tax thing in 2013. It was before that. They screwed us over too. To this day things have gotten worse in general tbh.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Spoken like someone who doesn't know how anything works. The fuck you mean by "used his influences to buy all the sugar production"? As of 2018, production of cane sugar reached 55 million tons a year. Do you honestly think Calderón has that much money? And why would one need political influence to buy anything?
Sugar isn't that great either, but the difference is sugar can at least metabolize in different parts of the body. HFCS only metabolizes in the liver, causing fatty liver (where your body thinks you've become an alcoholic) leading to obesity, leading to Diabetes and a slow death. There's no way to avoid HFCS because it's also used as a preservative and is CHEAP as hell compared to sugar.
I thought you were going to talk about Coca-Cola taking over all the water springs in southern Mexico making it impossible for some indigenous communities to have access to fresh water..... Oh well, as long as people can still drink their coca
White Americans only care about Mexicans once they get here! Hence Avacado's. White People love them and they've been killing off poor Mexicans since the 1990's!
Here's the chemistry: Johnny, I like your videos for the well researched content, this one though is a bit shy on the chemistry you presented so I felt the need to reach out. Basically, sugar = sucrose (1molecule of glucose+1molecule of fructose bonded together into a new molecule called sucrose). So if you completely break down all the sucrose in a solution, you will get a 50:50 mix of glucose and fructose. However, unprocessed corn syrup = mostly glucose. So, to make corn syrup somewhat resemble sugar, some of the glucose (~42%) is converted to fructose. Thus the processed corn syrup now has more fructose than what it started with, hence the name: "high fructose corn syrup" and it is named as such not because it has high fructose compared to normal sugar (in fact it has less, 8% less), but because it has more fructose than natural corn syrup. Now, coming to the journal article you presented (demerits for not putting in proper citation, which would have made it easier for me to find the original paper): Coca-Cola is acidic, you can even tell it by the taste. In such an acidic solutions, the sucrose will break down to the fundamental constituent molecules (not elements): glucose and fructose. So, to note that the authors found 48:52 fructose: glucose in Mexican coke makes the composition closer to sugar (50:50 glucose: fructose) than high fructose corn syrup which only has 42% fructose and 58% glucose. So, I say don't lose faith on your favorite drink. Cheers
@@Reverend_Josh that is a very tricky question, because the answer will depend on the scope you are seeking. To an organic chemist: yes sugars/monosaccharides (even some disaccharides) end in-ose. However, will a common man just add any of these -ose to his cup of coffee? No. Because these -oses include ribose, deoxy-ribose, arabinose, lactose, galactose, mannose etc etc.
In the UK the iconic Irn Bru was ruined by sugar tariffs and the makers began using artificial sweeteners. Consumers were so angry that the makers brought out Irn Bru 1901, which is the version from that year which only has sugar.
“Tokenizing Mexican culture...” Dude, that packaging is awesome. I wish we had it here in Mexico. Please stop being offended for us.
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I dont think hes being offended for you I think hes criticising the use of Mexican culture or the appearance thereof rather than the actual product for sales.
I don't think that was what he meant, I think he was pointing out how they slap spanish words on a bottle and call it mexican when really it just an american drink.
Whike it may not offend you it probably does someone else. And if you dont think its offencive its is a little fucking corny and taking advantage of a culture to sell more.
“I’m bored” level: I’m gonna make a full research about Mexican Coke so people stop consuming it but at the end encourage people so they continue consuming it. Love it BTW
I grew up in the 70s and remember what good Coke tasted like (Old school Coke and Vanila ice cream was our Friday night treat growing up). My grandfather was a truck driver for multiple soda comapnis so we had all sorts of soda around. It was way better than today's soda. I lived in LA from 1999-2010 and there was a Mexican market at the end of my block that sold the Mexican soda and it was the same as I remember as a kid. I have not had it since because I've just not seen it around my area currently. Having said all that I have not bought a case of soda in 3 decades other than for mix drinks. The carbonation and (I believe) plastic bottling makes it not enjoyable anymore for a treat... It tastes nothing like it used to.
I hadn't seen your response and made my own comment about it. I can no longer have sweetened beverages but used to go to the kosher markets before Passover to buy Coke and Pepsi. My non-Jewish coworkers used to rave about it. Me? Not so much - they all taste sweet to me.
My high school chemistry teacher (in Mexico) used to work at Coca Cola, and she told us while sugar was important to how it tastes, the minerals in the water also help a lot. Honestly not sure how much it affects and how different could it be, never really questioned it until I saw this video.
(also tip from someone who worked as a biochem in Coca Cola in Mexico, not me btw, they use an industrial process with gm bacteria to duplicate the ammount of sugar in their product without spending X2 the ammount in sugar cane, which already is pretty expensive 🙃)
It’s not about the sugar, it’s about the glass. Aluminum cans change the flavor. I am originally from Brazil, and I can attest coca-cola tastes the same over there and in the US. The canned ones. We have Coca Cola sold in glass bottles and they’re actually better.
I FREAKIN KNEW IT. I grew up in Mexico and remember how delicious and addictive coke was, but as soon as we moved to the states it tasted awful. When I saw they had “Mexican coke” at Costco years later I bought it without hesitation and though to myself, “ this is not Mexican coke” I thought I was crazy. However when I go to Mexico and drink coke there it’s amazing again. I don’t think all places have converted to HFCS. Regardless👍🏽
Austria doesn't use HFCS at all afaik, i do not think it is banned, but if something is produced locally, it uses sugar. So all the soft drinks and stuff are made with sugar here too.
I am Filipino, and what we do here is that we finish our bottles, we return them to the store we bought them. These glass bottles are mostly sold by small vendors or catering services.
As a Syrian I remember that we'd get coke in a plastic bag tied around the straw (don't even ask how that works) because often it was cheaper than buying the actual bottles, and I believe those bottles were later returned to the manufacturer or something.
When we eat sucrose, the enzyme sucrase breaks it down into glucose and frutose. Acidity also does that to sucrose. Coke is acid. Maybe that's why they can't find any sucrose. Probably corn syrup and cane sugar have different fructose/glucose ratios, explaining the different taste.
Update: Corn syrup can have from 53% up to 90% fructose. Sucrose is 50% fructose, 50% glucose. Glucose tastes less sweet than both fructose and sucrose. So using the same amount of sugar, you have different results in taste. The one using sucrose (broken down into glucose and fructose after contact with the acid) tastes more mild, smooth, with less cloying, syrupy taste.
I was thinking this might be the main difference in taste (assuming that a. cane sugar is actually not used in imported Mexican coke and b. the taste difference goes beyond the placebo effect). I think there is a difference in how each material chills with refrigeration. There may also be some difference in how the gas interacts with the container. I don't actually know that for sure, but if you ever drink Coke through a paper straw, it has a lot more fizz than when drinking through a plastic straw (pretty sure I saw a video about that somewhere on UA-cam), so maybe there is a similar but smaller effect when changing the container materials. And I prefer glass as well.
For a while Mexican soda pop was All still made with sugar while USA made soda pop used corn syrup. Mexico can grow more cane sugar than the USA. Richard Nixon started the use of corn syrup as a method to stabilize food prices. Sugar was a commodity that could have wild price swings and that caused food prices to swing wildly too. (food with sugar in it anyway) Now even a fast food hamburger and even pizza dough are loaded up with loads of sugar or corn syrup. At one time Mexican pop was better than USA pop, but that ended around the the year 2000 or so. It was obvious to me. I quit drinking pop all together. It's crap water.
In Ireland, the coke in a can tastes better than the plastic bottle option. If you can find it in a glass bottle, go for it. But the glass bottle for some reason is twice the price. Hooray for going green!
@@donkeydik2602 Dependes on the season. Most of the year they use sugar cane, but now and then they replace it with stevia -which makes Coke taste different...
I’ve lived in Mexico for 8 years now and often travel to the states and the biggest difference that I’ve seen between USA coke and Mexican coke is the carbon dioxide content. In Mexico the coke is more bubbly and fizzy by far. In Mexico we drink it out of bottles almost always and in the USA mostly everyone drink coke from fountain drink machines and the gas content is less. The taste is the same in my opinion but Mexican coke makes me burp more lol 🙈
If you're at a significantly higher elevation in Mexico, as you can be in Mexico city, the air pressure pushing down against the coca-cola liquid is less and it will release it's carbonation more quickly. Same is true in Denver. Also, water boils at a lower temperature at a higher elevation..
Here in Mexico City coke is normally sold in plastic bottles, and it has HFCS on the ingredient list. Usually glass bottle coke is sold at restaurants and fast food stands on the street while in corner stores and supermarkets it is usually plastic.
I live in México, and I used to live in Canada. When I was up there, I tasted the mexican Coca-Cola they selled, I even managed to bring back one bottle and compare it to one I bought back here in México. It still tasted different. I am from a small town who has a bottler of coke in it, and really close from there, a mill where they produce sugar made of cane. If you live near that area, you can sometimes see trucks from that mill enter the bottler of coke, so yeah. At least in that area they use cane sugar.
Finally. An actual true reason from a native. Not these yt ppl acting snobbish saying "ewee ets ectually fremm glass bottleee blaaa3" Like a kid not doing the experiment, but just following what his scientist dad says even though he never did any experiments with it
I believe you, it tastes so much better on the bottle Ingredients it least cane sugar.. A coke drinker can tell the difference.. The cold bottle diffently helps as well, I admit..
Chem engineering student here: Coke production is basically adding water to the secret syrup imported from the US. One of the main reasons the Mex coke tastes better is the glass bottle (already explained in the top comment) but another important factor that changes the taste is the water used. You see, every coke plant has a water treatment plant attached because they use the water from the region they are installed. So for the higher coke tasters, coke from different regions will taste different, not for the ingredients, but simply because the water of every region is slightly different in mineral composition.
That´s actually true, not just for sodas, but also for beers. You may think is logical since water is the main ingredient on both beverages but not many people think about it. Also, in case of imported/exported beverages, the way long transportation is done and final shelf life can also affect the final taste. I´m from Mexico but lived for a year in the UK and got used to european beers around, but once I came back home and found those brands in local stores, they just don´t taste the same.
It also tastes different because the Mexican Coke sold in the US has 150 calories vs. 140 calories for the American one. More calories = more sugar/sweetener, so of course it tastes better to many. More sodium in the Mexican one too. Read the nutrition labels. Funny that Coke tried to increase the sweetener with New Coke back in the 80s and people lost their minds. Turns out Coke was right: people prefer sweeter.
I got ahold of a carnitas recipes that called for Mexican Coca cola when I told my Mexican friend he looked at me like I was silly when I told him how I cooked it I had to look everywhere for one too. All my other ingredients he approved of but hey everybody's recipes different. And the tacos actually were really good.
Actually coke still contains coca leaves, but they are processed in a government watched facility to extract cocaine for use in the medical field. The leaves give the drink a certain flavor
Yep. This is one of the few things about the Coca Cola recipe we can be sure about, because only a few companies are allowed to import coca leaves, and one of them makes the flavoring extract for Coca Cola. If cocaine was ever legalized and import restrictions on coca leaves were lifted, Coca Cola could remove it and we'd never know, because that extract is a flavoring agent that doesn't have to be disclosed as an ingredient, like most spices and flavorings.
It's still made with coca leaves, just that it has been treated to take out the cocain from them. They bought it from the only pharma company that us allowed to make cocain in the US.
As a Canadian, the funny thing is that most of my fellow Canadians seem to think that our soft drinks don't contain HFCS. False: most contain a mixture of sucrose and HFCS. It's simply labelled differently: "Sugar, Glucose-fructose."
Mexican coke used to be done with cane sugar. In Mexico we noticed the change. Exactly when they started to make disposable plastic bottles they started to make coke with corn syrup even for glass bottles... Before that, it was delicious !!
Here in Peru was the same. I remember my grandpa used to buy a 3L bottle every weekend. He called it “El elixir de la vida”. Its taste was like magic. But suddenly the flavor changed and we started drinking Pepsi. My family talks about it every time we drink any soft drink.
Most sweet products from Mexico now have 2 black octagons that say they are high in sugar so if they don't have that they don't actually come from Mexico.
That’s a new thing thanks to the new Mexican president. They took characters off of candy & any sweets targeted at youth & that includes salt & sodium in excess. And apparently kids can’t buy candy by themselves they need an adult. That’s what my family explained to me
Here in Mexico, around 2001-2002 Pepsi actually changed from cane sugar to HFCS. They promoted it as changing from the "Mexican" fomula to the "International" formula. And thus most sodas are not sugar sweetened anymore. Only regional smaller soda makers seem to be using sugar but regulations popping up in the last few years regarding calories, sugar, etc are forcing them to also adopt artificial sweeteners.
The thing with coke is it adjusts the sugar to whatever is available like he said, corn syrup is cheap in the USA so they use it sugar beet might be the cheapest thing but sugar beet 🤔
Like back in the 1980's Coke said it was bringing out New Coke suddenly everyone was saying it didn't taste the same and signing pertitions to bring back the old coke when they hadn't rolled it out yet.
Nope, I live in Juarez city, in the border with the US, if you go to eat at a local market for some burritos, you'll be able to choose between a glass mexican bottle and a can of COKE, people who run restaurants and street locals usually go to El Paso TX, and buy boxes of American coke, because it's way cheaper, but people prefer to drink mexican coke because it taste way better, and even much better if it is a cold glass one.
I went to a Mexican restaurant and asked for a bottle of Coca Cola and it taste different than the can of Coca Cola I usually drink. Also McDonald’s Coca Cola has a different taste to me. But Mexican coke have a sweet syrup like taste. McDonald’s has a watery taste but also has more bite (if that makes sense) to it than a can of coke and Mexican coke.
I saw Mexican coke in the grocery store the other day. Didn't day anywhere where it was made. Real Mexican coke says in small print where it's from and the ingredients are slightly different
I've seen a mix of different variations of Mexican Coke here in LA recently, presumably from different bottlers. Some are marked "sugar," some "cane sugar," and I just recently encountered my first bottle with HFCS on the label. The HFCS one was also interesting because it had no red on the bottle, just white printing on the glass and a light-colored (kind of a very pale lime green color iirc.) cap, and the flavor was immediately noticeable as different from the stuff I normally get and more like regular American Coke - and I noticed this *before* checking the ingredients. I wonder if the researchers who analyzed the coke got the "wrong" version and the real cane sugar stuff still exists but only if you track it down.
I thought that cap on his bottle looked suspicious! I had to double check my stash and the bottles I have with a red cap say 'cane sugar' on the ingredient list, and it doesn't have the syrupy taste.
That might have been a bottle of Coke from Mexico for the Mexican market and not a bottle of Coke meant for export Did it have double octagons on the cap and bottle?
I will never forgive you for discovering this.
Kosher Pepsi is made with cane sugar. You can find it in predominantly Jewish neighborhoods.
As a Latino from East LA, I feel personally, professionally, and spiritually attacked.
@@mrivanlizarde hahaha YEAH JOHNNY
lolssss
just go back to normal coke.. wait just drink something else...
Here's the thing: The glass bottle is why Mexican Coke tastes better. It chills better, holds carbonation better, and doesn't leach plastics into the Coke.
There's probably something to that. There is a big taste difference between a canned soft drink and the same soft drink in a plastic bottle.
You are spot on about the carbonation leaking out of the plastic bottles.
In fact the two litter plastic bottles leak so much of the gas that they are
filled w/ about @ 4 to 5 times the carbon dioxide gas then it contains when
we open it. Apparently the 2 litter bottles will fail upon filling them at the
plant and it sounds like cannon shots.
@@ColonelSandersLite Absolutely!
@@KPC-123 I'm certain that's the case. I like to buy soda during sales and stockpile it. I've learned the hard way that plastic-bottled soda does not keep. I can keep canned soda for close to a year whereas I MAY get a couple of weeks out of plastic bottles, and they are usually undercarbonated to suit me. Mexican Coke on the other hand I have kept for over a year with zero loss of carbonation or flavor.
Why is it that beer manufacturers get it but softdrink companies don't?
Right on! Cola was always better in glass, as is beer. If we truly want to go green, why have we not gone back to bottles?
We have this everywhere in San Antonio, Texas. It's the bottle that makes it better, I think. I hate plastic.
I personally think coke tastes better from a can
No it’s that Mexican coke uses actual real authentic sugar cane
I'm from Mexico and i actually felt the change in coke flavor, it used to taste better, even the change of sweetener it always taste better when it comes from a glass bottle
Yeah it never went anywhere, nor was it ever hard to find. Are you in need of some cause I can send you a couple of cases. He seems depressed in that cabin.
Let's see how many people are from San Antonio tx
one of your commenters pointed out that sucrose will break down into fructose and glucose over time and this breakdown is hastened in an acidic environment.
This is a well known fact and thought in high school chemistry classes.
Mexican here. I actually remember trying the US coke when I was young and thinking it tasted horribly compared to Coca back in México. Also, here in México we have a "belief" that coca-cola in glass bottles actually tastes better, I myself believe it. It's just so refreshing to drink an ice-cold coke from a glass bottle.
@@gonzalpi Yes, that may be it!
@@gonzalpi "tin" huh? Mad lulz
It is definitely better! Same in Brasil
Bárbara Martínez even more if is of 355 ml. That’s the best!
En Argentina es igual, la conquita de vidrio tiene un lugar en nuestros corazones
Hey Johnny! Love your videos. Just wanted to add:
Sucrose is a chemical compound with 1 molecule of glucose and 1 molecule of fructose, in 50%:50% ratio. High fructose corn syrup I think is about 40%:60% glucose to fructose .
Once the sugar is dissolved in the syrup it disassociates into glucose and fructose in the presence of phosphoric acid. This process is called sugar inversion and is a very interesting concept on its own. But i think this would explain why the researchers did not find any sucrose in the sampled beverages! Just my 0.002$
I run a small craft soda company in Pakistan and hence have been researching sodas, sugars & their chemistry for the last two years :)
wow!! intersting insight! I didnt go into the exact findings of the paper in the video but they did look at ratios for their conclusion. quoting from the study: " For example, for the Mexican CocaCola sample, the label lists only “sugar,” but no sucrose was detected by HPLC. Instead, the laboratory analysis detected a 52:48 ratio of free fructose-to-glucose...., the Mexican
Coca-Cola lists “sugar” on the ingredient list, but the laboratory did not detect any sucrose, but rather near equal amounts of fructose and glucose, results which suggest the use of HFCS." the exact ratio was 52:48 and they are saying that the near 50/50 split points toward HFCS (which is different than what you mention of the 50/50 being characteristic of sucrose). so now Im VERY curious. I'm sooo close to calling up the people who did this study to ask them this stuff. Maybe there is hope for my Mexican Coke identity afterall! hahah. Thanks again for the perspective!
So Fahad, what do I have to do to get some of your craft soda over here in Manipur, India?
@Joseph Roach corn doesn't have gluten, only cereal grains like wheat, barley, rye or oats
Oh, thank you, Fahad. I was already wondering what the difference between Sucrose and a mixture of Glucose and Fructose was.
@@johnnyharris the sucrose will hydrolyze in the cokes carbonated water into glucose and fructose.
The glass bottle is reused here in Mexico. We take the empty bottle to the store, and we get a new one that’s full.
Edit: Yes, it costs money. If you don’t have a bottle to trade in for the new one, they charge you extra.
Here in south east asia too
This is pretty bad as tho the US banned re-usable bottles for a long time ago thanks to the poor sanitisation problems in industries. In Mexico all this beautiful glass bottles commonly end with urine and cigarette residues. Enjoy! ;) Saludos desde México.
It’s also reused here in india but we don’t get a new one though 🥺
here in Brazil too
Here in the Philippines too...
could you make a video about chiapas mexico and how they consume more coke than water cause the bottling plant sucked up all the local water so now coke is cheaper and more abundant than water
and people die from diabetes.
Coke is not cheaper but they are basically addicted to coke, water is just plain for them
Coke Corp made a plant to extract water coz there was none, they out their money to make it i am Mexican and we were teach since middle school to blame capitalism for our decisions and mistakes, Chiapas have rivers lakes and a ocean but people with Zero education of how to purified water coz be been teach that our government have to take care of us
Can you make a video about Washington DC USA and how the so called politics are so corrupt and how the sheeple need to wake up and how they want to invade Mexico for their own person gain. Got money for wars but can’t feed the poor?
Omg are you serious?
One night someone shouted that Mexican coke was amazing . And people thought he meant the cola and thus started a myth.
Dunno about their coke but their weed is awful.
@@SoulDevoured Still probably better than my country's weed
Yes, I assumed they meant cocaine as soda is bad for you
@Liam McNieve 😂🤣😂🤣😂
*Narcos intro music*
I'm in Mexico and I feel like I have to mention this as I didn't read anyone else mentioning it. But we actually have 2 cokes now in Mexico. Sugar coke still exists but it's sold only in small volume bottles that are now at a higher price with the tag "sabor original" (original flavour) and all the other presentations of coke in a regular price and different volumes read "mismo sabor menos azúcar" (same flavour less sugar) which is completely untrue. And you really can taste the difference buying the two. The original flavour ones actually run out pretty quickly from convenience and grocery stores:(
Dinopollo true
They have reduced the sucrose but it has the same sweetness theoretically coz they added an artificial sweetener (sucralose, aspertame, etc.)
@@lloydjim1024 Yeah, a lot of low-price brands I know sneak in some artificial sweetener in their non-light soft drinks and I somehow always notice. I'm guessing it's their way of getting around the soft drink tax. In Mexico, just reduce the sugar content.
Nooo, you can't get it anymore. They've changed the formula gradually like no one would notice. Every coke now is "sabor original - menos azucar"
@sethaskani Si dice, pero lo dice abajo a la derecha del logo, dice "menos azucar"
Oi Johnny, it seems like you may have glossed over an important detail regarding the analysis of mexican coke. Sucrose will slowly split into glucose and fructose over time when in solution. It's usually fairly stable but the conversion is strongly accelerated in acidic environments like coca cola which has a bunch of phosphoric acid in it.
"Hydrolysis can also be accelerated with acids, such as cream of tartar or lemon juice, both weak acids. Likewise, gastric acidity converts sucrose to glucose and fructose during digestion, the bond between them being an acetal bond which can be broken by an acid." [From Wikipedia]
What this means is that even if the mexican cola was manufactured using only cane sugar. Given enough time, the sucrose may all split up into glucose and fructose in a 50/50 ratio.
Corn syrup starts out as a very concentrated solution of nearly pure glucose. Fructose is about 3x sweeter so smart people found a way to convert glucose into fructose to make a much sweeter product with the same starting material. Hence the birth of HFCS. You could sweeten way more soda with a bucket of high fructose corn syrup and even sucrose. One of the documents you briefly flashed in the video actually mentions HFCS 55 which is the sweetener most commonly used for sodas. It's 55% fructose, 45% glucose which makes it sweeter than sucrose by a bit.
If you ran an analysis on american sodas, you should see the total sugar content to be split up into approx 55% fructose and 45% glucose. If you run the same process on sucrose sweetened soda which has had enough time to split into the simple sugars, there should be a measure of approx 50% fructose, 50% glucose.
The results on the mexican coke are interesting since it's neither the 55:45 or 50:50 distribution we'd expect with either process. It's about 52% fructose.
I think this could be explained in 2, maybe 3 ways.
1. The process used to measure the sugars has a certain amount of uncertainty which could lead to those deviations from the expected values. (In this case about +-4% error)
Edit 2: I just went through the paper and it turns out that their sugar tests had measurement errors ranging from 2.6% to 8.7% when measuring the content in standardized solutons. This is pretty much enough info to plausibly chalk up the 52% value to instrumental error. Making this whole video pointless. New title: JOHNNY ASSUMED THAT MEXICAN COKE IS A LIE DUE TO A VERY RELAXED READ UP ON A SINGLE LAB EXPERIMENT AND THE NEED TO PRODUCE MORE OUTRAGE CAUSING CONTENT TO APPEASE THE ALGORITHM AND GET MORE VIEWS. (I like your content Johnny but please try to be more careful with your assertions of facts considering that your audience is steadily growing). Your mexican coke is still maybe tastier for now maybe.
2. Mexican cola producers may be using a mixture of cane sugar and HFCS 55.
3. Maybe the mexican cola producers are using pure cane sugar and the test is accurate however the glucose is partially binding to other components in the soda (like in protein glycosilation) while the fructose is left free in solution.
TLDR: 52% fructose measured in mexican coke with a high margin of error isn't strong enough evidence to assume that it's abandoned cane sugar and your preference is just suggestibility (although it may very well be)
BTW, the link you provided for the study backing this video sent me to a 404 page. It's broken.
Edit: Here's a link to the paper:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1038/oby.2010.255
Oh wow! Well done mate. So there’s still a sliver of hope that the we’re getting the real deal, huh?
@Digital School lmao
I definitely thought it was weird when he said sucrose was "chemically very different" from fructose and glucose, as sucrose is just a glucose molecule bonded to a fructose molecule. He definitely should have consulted with a chemist before releasing this one.
BASED. Thanks for posting this red pill. Nuance and details are key.
@@Gerwulf97 Your political compass memes is leaking
If you go to Mexico, and purchase coke whether it be in a can, plastic or glass, it will have "pure cane sugar" listed on the ingredients. I have seen this myself on every bottle I have ever bought while in Mexico and it absolutely tastes different.
Agreed. I've seen the same label countless times. The cane sugar formation tastes much better and leaves a clean palette. I seriously doubt Mexican Coke bottlers would mislabel their product given the liability and steep FDA penalties if caught. Moreover, their US competitors would likely pressure FDA take action against the Mexican imports demanding imports abide by the same rules. I call bullshit on this video.
@@bobweiram6321 "I seriously doubt Mexican bottlers would mislabel", so coke will sponsor anti-union death squads but won't lie about an ingredient? 😂
Also no High fructose corn syrup
Not true I have some imported street vendor coca cola bottles and the import label states cane sugar but on the bottle cap in very fine print it lists hfcs as an ingredient
@@bobweiram6321 I literally have a bottle from Mexico with an import label that states cane sugar but the bottle cap lists hfcs as an ingredient
'Mexican coke is just better', best way to get instantly demonetized
It's the bottle men everything in glass taste better than cans or plastic
actually I'd worry about becoming a target of cartels. lol Be careful about exposing things in Mexico!
Italian Creed_09 bamboo? natural Sugar Cane , not bamboo 😂
Every african country has that
I know right? Colombian is really where its at.
Anyway, regardless of having sucrose or HFC, coca-cola from a glass bottle tastes better.
You're god damn right
Yep, for me it goes from glass to can to plastic.
@@callidusvulpes5556 yeah it’s soo weird,when I drink coke from a bottle it tastes worse than when I put it in a glass cup and drink it
Amelica explan 😫
@@aliteralpieceofbread3373 well that wouldnt make sense since wlthe reason cannned coke doesnt taste as good is the can liner and plastic bottled coke has plastic traces in it.
You're just pouring the tainted stuff into a glass so thats in your head
@@aliteralpieceofbread3373 ffs man
Me: Wait, it's all Corn Syrup?
Coca Cola: Always has been.
@Bob Desombre It's a meme
A1 steak sauce bottles have text on them that says original recipe. But then it lists high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. That was not in existence when A1 steak sauce was invented.
It says it on the ingredients
Australian Coke has real sugar, try some of ours
@@Smoothblue90 I have caught that on some other products that claimed to be made using "the original recipe" , I would look up all of the ingredients and several times I have found some that did not exist when they started making the product.
You just got called out Jonny Harris about this video. Maybe Coke needs to send you a letter.😂
We need to bring back the cocaine-laced original formula. We can do this ourselves at the grass-roots "in the hood" level.
We'll call it "Cracka-Cola".
COKE IS NO LONGER MADE WITH THE KOLA NUT AND THE SECRET RECIPE/INGREDIENT NO LONGER EXISTS. IT TAKES OVER 12 CHEMICAL REACTIONS TO CREATED THE FLAVOR FOR COKE AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES PEPSI. NEARLY ALL SOFT DRINK FLAVORS AND THAT ALSO GOES FOR FOODS ARE CREATED BY MIXING CHEMICALS TOGETHER AND THE REACTIONS BETWEEN THESE CHEMICALS CREATE THE FLAVORING. LOOK AT ALL THE KIDS GETTING CANCER. WE LIVE IN A SINISTER SYSTEM AND THE BEST WAY TO CHANGE IT "IS TO NOT BUY IT".
Government ruins everything good and joyful
@@tharblin THE GOVERNMENT IS RUN BY THE DEVIL SATAN. HE IS THE ONE THAT PUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THEIR LUST FOR GREED TO TAMPER WITH OUR FOODS THAT HAS MADE EVERYBODY SICK WITH ALL KINDS OF DISEASES. THE DEVIL IS A REAL LIVING BEING THAT CAN MATERIALIZE AND YOU CAN PHYSICALLY TOUCH IT.
I’m with you 👍🏾🤦🏾♂️🤣
Nah, we need to put Dextroamphetamine/Dextromethamphetamine in it and call it Dexie-Cola/Methyl-Cola.
USA: MEXICAN COKE
Rest of the World except North America: so. Coke?
Canada doesn't call our coke mexican coke...
Ya it's Cola
the only country that make a difference to coke is... Colombian coke
Sanutep Chan so Mexico isn’t in North America?
@@tyberius1313 Canada is in North America.
If you go to Mexico you would know there are 2 different cokes one is called “sabor original” still made with sugar the other is not
By the way we have "coca cola zero" if you are feling fat, the price of the coke is rising
Actually, there are two kinds of "Sabor Original" (Original Flavor), one of them labeled "Sabor Original, menos Azucar" (Original Flavor with less sugar) which feels more watery and less fizzy. Somehow Coke notice that customer like me who are old school and likes sugar a dislike this and change it.... but what I really think is that they are lying to us, they just drop the "menos azucar" (Less sugar) label... but sell us that crap, less sugared product anyway. Not 100% sure about this but anyhow Coca-Cola doesn't taste like Coca-Cola anymore!
Coca cola options in México (as I've just seen in an Oxxo in Chihuahua)
1 Coca Cola Original
2 Coca Cola sin azúcar (sugar free)
3 Coca Cola Light (light coke)
4 Coca Cola con Café (coke and Coffee a new more like an energy drink)
So no Sugar only corn syrup according to this
Sabor original = High Fructose Corn Syrup
Menos azúcar = High Fructose Corn Syrup/Sucralose
Yes, so feel cool hipsters. The original is even mode exclusive now(:
On a recent trip to the US coming from Australia I noticed coke tasted very different and not as good, I immediately noticed the difference without knowing it was sweetened with HFCS. Australian coke is so much better than American coke in my opinion and is sweetened with cane sugar.
That's what they label as. Just like Mexican coke
bro did watch the video
@@moneyparhar different companies my friend, Coca-Cola Australia still has contracts with cane sugar farmers in North Queensland
The Coca-Cola company owns 35% of Coca-Cola Amatil in Australia. I believe that they are some-what independent of Coca-Cola Company in decision making.
Mexican coke is probably just Columbian coke but Mexico is just the middle man
In Mexico, coca cola bottling companies have regional concessions, and they purchase the syrup from coca cola and they provide the other two components (the water and the sweetener). Coca cola in reality only sells the unsweetened concentrated syrup. When you buy a coca cola in mexico, you can look at the bottle or can and if the ingredient says "azucar" (meaning sugar, in singular) that means it's cane sugar, and if it says "azucarES" (meaning sugarS, in plural), then there is corn syrup in it.
Neat! Uncertainty solved!
Some of them says both (Azúcares Añadidos: Azúcar y jarabe de alta fructosa - Added Sugars: Sugar and high fructose syrup)
Mine (12 oz. glass bottles bought in the U.S.) has a sticker on it that says in English "CANE SUGAR", with no other sugars listed...
@@lordofthewoods Than by law, it must be legit!
Also Glass coke bottles from mexico usually have a yellow cap, that means it uses cane suggar. "Mexican coke" sold in the U.S have the red cap and that means it uses corn syrup. I think there is more to it but since i cross the border verry often i can say that they do taste different.
Fun fact: in Mexico the “cool retro glass bottle” is bought only because it is cheaper, you return the bottle to the store and buy a new one.
That's the way it was here in the states for a very long time. Until companies got greedy and cheap like they are now. Now it's throw away and buy new.
@@floridaman8324 Re-really??! I mean, what the heack happened to all those bottle??
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225
Probably like everything else they wound up in the ocean.
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 The cans are pretty easy to recycle and worth it for companies, because of how valuable metal is.
Unfortunately when it comes to plastic, they are MUCH more picky. Not only that, but often times it's cheaper just to make NEW plastic. Heck the amount of times you can Reuse Plastic is 1-2 times.
Now we USED to send Plastic to China to Recycle, but now that they have more than enough, China will send it wherever. Even then stuff would fall into the Ocean an other stuff.
@@ramonemiliochaconperdomo7225 obviously they get cleaned
The Mexican cokes with the red caps use cane sugar, and says so on the list of ingredients. The ones with the gold caps use HFCS, but calls it sugar on the list of ingredients. All of the clips you showed of the people saying it tasted so much better were drinking from the red cap ones, and they do taste WAY better.
Source? & someone commented their is a green labeled bottled coke?
You are right, Daniel.
Ok so after rewatching the video iv noticed something. Either he's fooling us into thinking theres no sucrose or he's just really that dumb. Ima go wit the latter. So, first off, in the beginning where he "supposedly" read that it only says sugar on the bottle he doesnt even try to show us the ingredient list. He never even shows us taking a sip, i kno i would've. 2nd off, when he shows us the 4pk, again he doesnt show us the ingredient list, he just spins it around but luckily after a youtube update you can zoom in to the video now and you can zoom in a lot. @daniel u said the red caps is the mark of original cane sugar right but so how was he holding one with a yellow cap? When the other bottles he had were red caps? Thats what threw me off to begin with. Thankfully for one of the last youtube updates u can zoom in on video and i paused it at the moment he turn the box to the ingredient list and u can tell it says SUCROSE. Also the four bottles in the beginning of the vid r diff sizes wit the yellow bottle caps being the smaller and having the sticker tag on top half. The real mexican coke r slightly taller and the sticker tags r on the bottom half.
Yes, Mexican coke has corn syrup formulas now, but those are mainly for the Mexican Market. The expensive coke that gets exported to the USA is supposed to use cane sugar. But either way, the Mexican coke formula is still slightly different than American.
@Damian Smith Well I think there's some confusion between the "Mexican Coke" sold in Mexico and the "Mexican Coke (Brand)" produced for export to the USA.
The study quoted said they found HFCS in "Mexican Coke", but "Mexican Coke (Brand)" for USA export is labeled as cane sugar.
Is this something you could expand upon?
I have a restaurant that sells so much Mexican Coke; this is a complete shocker
@Zahdorfi Okay reddit detective, nobody cares, all coke tastes like shit anyway. Id rather drink puddle water than put any of that shit in my body.
Los pollos hermanos ?
@@mexicanwitharock The chicken brother?
@@Long-Horse when I said los pollos hermanos, I was referring to the restaurant from the hit show breaking bad. The restaurant in the show sell and smuggles a lot of drugs for the Mexican cartels. So I'm joking about the comment
los pollos hermamos sold meth?
There could be a reason why it might taste different though . As plastics and metals infuse lot more particles into the liquids compared to glass containers .
It's more likely due to the placebo effect than anything that's more minor to our sense.
@@liz5100 It's that+ different water composition
It definetly tastes better when it comes in a glass bottle, glad that someone pointed it out
America has glass too and it tastes the same
It’s been studied, there is no taste difference whatsoever, blind tests simply couldn’t prove it.
All of their products are coated with the same material, so there just isn’t any difference.
Fun fact: In Germany there is a deposit system, so these reusable glass bottles are actually washed and reused. Crazy idea, I know.
That happens in all latinamerican countries, we also have "retornable" bottles made of hard plastic, in those bottles you can see the scratches that the previous buyer left in it lol
in taiwan as well
I remember reading that it was common worldwide 30 o 40 years ago but the system got replaced with cheaper non reusable bottles.
In Mexico Coca-Cola still sells 600ml, 1L Glass and 2L plastic reusable bottles but in a small scale. What we still use and a lot are the reusable 19L plastic bottle ("Garrafon" we call it) for purified water thanks to a shitty city water system requiring extra filtering steps. When I was a kid (90's) there were glass 19L bottles but they were super heavy.
Some people in America is still get glass milk bottles and they get recycled in the same fashion.
Canada does it too. With alcohol bottles mostly.
New series idea: Johnny Ruins Everything I Used to Love
Nahhhh mexican coke tastes better because they use REAL sugar canes
The Us uses Sum type of syrup a sweetener it's also unhealthy
Pj salt in the chat
Real sugar vs high fructose corn syrup...
Try drinking Canadian coke it has sugar in it (I think)
Adm ruins everything?
In Canada we have a bunch of "local flavors" in glass bottles that specifically say Cane Sugar in the ingredients. I think they only started showing up a few years ago though.
way back chocolate was being made in canada and exported to usa by american companies because sugar was cheaper in canada because of the us sugar lobby imposing duties on sugar but not on chocolate.
ITS A LIE. HE A 69 GOD.
“Cool retro bottle” I remember when I was growing up and visiting Mexico every summer in the 90’s that retro bottle was just the bottle. And it’s refundable, so a household would rinse and put in a bag and then take the empties to the local store for a refund. It wasn’t rare to see a used bottle with tons of scratches or the label being super faded and worn to be in the rotation. Then of course is the real nostalgic way to drink coke in Mexico... poured into a plastic bag, with a straw. That way you don’t need to worry about returning the bottle, the merchant already kept it. This was most common in plazas and common public areas since it was expected you would walk around holding the bag and drinking the coke right away.
dude, i'm mexican... it haven't change.
I still have like 20 bottles of those and when i go to buy one i need to bring and old one or else i will get charged more.
And if the stores want, you can even go and refund the empty bottles.
KuroNK sweet!! I honestly haven’t been back in forever now and need to make a trip again soon.
Yea giving back the bottle to the merchant for the deposit is done elsewhere too, we have machines to do that for cans and pop bottles in canada and beer bottles you go to the counter. You pay that deposit when buying the product.
What's sad is my dad have a full bag of US monster cans he can't deposit. It's just trash :/
same in the Philippines but our glass bottles are bigger
It's still like this in Germany. Reusable glass bottles are just the best way to keep drinks taste great without polluting the environment. I think the US should establish reusable bottles again.
“There are entire states that are pretty much just one entire corn field”
Laughs in Iowan
*smiles in Kansan*
Flosses teeth in Illinoisian
Children of the corn
@@juanmvargas644 yes we are the Corn Empire
Wasn't the corn empire the Mayan's?
This dude is hipster flexing on all of us with his house
My guys just Tryna advertise his airbnb real hard
With the Airbnb flex intact... so sad
Will *this video could have been just 5 minutes!* the stupid overacting and drama was totally unnecessary!
@@bobinpune congrats on finding out that ppl stretch out a video to get more watch time and put more ads
@@sock8211 jokes on him, I use an adblocker whenever I see new channels and I used the fast forward feature. It's like that Modern Rogue channel, 15 minutes of verbal masturbation and 5 minutes of cool, except there's nothing cool about a grown ass man bitching about Coca Cola, Starbucks must be closed.
Here in the Minneapolis area, for years up until maybe about 15 years ago, "Mexican Coke" was largely only sold in visibly well worn thick 16 oz glass bottles marked "retornable", found in the Mexican food isle of the local grocery store chain. The fun of it was the 16 oz glass bottle, practically identical to those sold in the US decades ago, and the real sugar based Coca Cola. I used to buy them for my grandma who enjoyed it as a treat. Then, those 12 oz "no retornable" glass bottles started appearing. The 12 oz ones were sold alongside the 16 oz ones for awhile, and I recall we both thought the 12 oz one tasted slightly different... but it could've been a placebo effect. The 16 oz bottle being what we normally bought "back in the day", I continued to grad the 16 oz bottles when they had them, then they disappeared one day with only the 12 oz bottles left to be found. That was around the time "Mexican Coke" started to get "big" and restaurants began to add them to their menus and stores like Sams Club and Costco started to stock 24 packs of them.
I only buy the 16 oz bottles, labeled "Medio Litro." My shop has a huge refrigerated display and always keeps them in stock as singles.
Mexican coke is real its just a powder not a liquid
And you drink it with your nose
I thought that stuff was Columbiana
@@marcow246 colombian* lol
I've never done that stuff, I just like how it smells
Hahahaha
He had enough time to research all that and never learned about inverting sugar. It's not the same as HFCS, which is 55% fructose and 45% glucose (hence high fructose) where inverted cane sugar is a 50/50 blend. Sugar inversion is the first step in many soda recipes because it makes it taste sweeter for the same amount of sugar, so it costs less.
Yeah so I went to the source he cited and "the fructose‐to‐glucose ratio of the drinks containing HFCS as the exclusive source of fructose revealed that the percentage of fructose was nearly always higher than 55%, " and the Mexican coke was below that threshold so that kinda says smth.
Cane sugar is not a "blend." It's a disaccharide molecule containing one glucose molecule and one fructose molecule chemically bonded via an oxygen atom.
Inverted sugar is *not* necessarily cheaper that raw sucrose. The process for inverting sucrose involves heating which incurs energy costs, and the perceived increase in sweetness is so subtle that it's probably a wash.
In the food industry there are other reasons for inverting sugar, especially if the resulting syrup, dough or whatever is intended to undergo fermentation as in beers, breads or cakes. Invert sugar is more fermentable by than raw sucrose, but in most cases it's far less expensive to just use corn sugar.
I work in a factory making another cola brand. We got the syrup without the sugar /sweetner. It is then mixed with sugar solution (beet sugar) and water before carbonating it. The sugar is not undergoing any heat treatment to invert it to glucose and fructose. Maybe coca cola has another process where sugar are heated in acidic solution to split the sucrose? While cola is very acidic by the phosphorous acid (the raw syrup has warning signs for corrosive.) the temperature to invert the sugar can be as low as 50 degrees celcius. No problem to reach those temperatures in a mixing process. And split the sugar by purpose.
@@johnalbert2102 Thank you for your clarity. For me, I just want the original product made with Sugar. The one I drank as a king in the early 70's/ If that is not coming from Mexico anymore then I know when I can find it in the USA and I will simple stock up more.
@Dildo Baggins I've no idea what you're on about. I'm stupid
"Man, I prefer Peruvian Coke personally. When that shit hits man I feel so ALIVE. Like I could stay up all night long. My face goes numb."
~We're talking about Coca-Cola right?
"What?"
Must admit that it took me a bit to catch the joke, as someone who regularly drinks Peruvian Coca-Cola.
bro inka cola slaps
@@niko-dg8cg hell yeah
Aborted fetal cells 😂
LOL! 😆
Someone has already made the video addressing the information in this video
This is all very incorrect. Just because American coke is similar in its fructose to glucose ratio as Mexican coke doesn’t mean both contain the same high fructose corn syrup. Production of corn syrup is a man made process, and that form of extracting fructose can be manipulated to different tastes. For instance, Mexican coke may use HFCS 42 which means its fructose to glucose ratio is 42:58 while American coke uses HFCS 55 making its ratio 55:45. Normal table sugar (sucrose) is 50:50 so Mexican coke, even if it uses high fructose corn syrup, would still taste closer to the real sugar deal thus why so many people prefer the Mexican coke. This whole video is so uninformed. I’m just a student and the paper you’re referring to didn’t support your views, you extrapolated their conclusion that Mexican coke has high fructose corn syrup to fit your clickbait video idea. Sigh.
Same thing I thought about honestly and my mom is from a town where they farm sugar cane, like Sugar Cane is farmed and produced in Mexico.
roasted, toasted and burned to crisp! That was brutal!
He seems sort of racist to me
Hecho
@V. V LMFAO u tell em bro!!! He seems sorta racist to me
"Mexico has a big obesity problem"
me: *YEP*
And people act as if the consequences of it is a thing and fault of the government.
lmao cause the US forces Mexico to buy their junk food
@@lilyliao9521 How
Highest Level Of Degeneracy Us/Mex Tlc
yeah, like U.S.A doesn't
Coca-Cola switched to Coke in the 80s people got so mad because it tasted like crap, so they went back to Coca-Cola. But what you don’t know is they did that on purpose so you would forget what the original Coca-Cola tasted like and then they switched from sugar to corn syrup and nobody could tell the difference when they re-introduced Coca-Cola.
Finally! Someone else who realizes this!
@@banzaibailey5891 I can detect though it is given some better work at duplicating the original taste it is not the same as the original 50's • I skipped all the why as there are no replacements nor will there be > Everything is junk now Z-Lineal have complete control of all social interaction and have gutted US Based same as they did the Balkan NATO thing
I’m not so sure this was “the plan” but I don’t doubt it helped people transition. I can spot corn syrup from a fuckin mile away so this has never been a real problem for me but yea
some countries coke still tastes better, I never tried the mexican one but in Thailand it's definitely made from cane sugar. I drank lots of this stuff until I decided to stop because I started getting old and fat too fast. Now I am back in Canada and I make my own soda from scratch.
@@captainLoknar Its regular sugar here in Australia too.
I noticed this myself. A few months ago I got an overpriced Mexican coke at a Home Depot. Glass bottle, but disappointing flavor. It tasted like any other Coke in the US. Now I know why.
I saw a video which basically said mexican coke exists in two variants. One being with HFCS, the other with cane sugar. It’s apparently a difference in labels. Could be that they tested the one with HFCS instead of the „real“ one.
my dad claims the only reason it tastes better is because it comes in a glass bottle. it has to do with the way you drink it. makes you taste differently since a lot of tasting is done with the nose and drinking from a glass bottle changes how air reaches you "smell buds"
Same with beer then
@@haydenhoodless2055 exactly!
Makes sense. Cups really effect the way drinks taste, another factor is how materials cool liquids, glass is a much better cooling material then plastic, which means the taste is more 'pure' and authentic to how it's supposed to taste.
As an aside, I swear drinking water out of a glass cup and plastic cup are radically different experiences.
Yep I agree 100%
I’ve had mexican coke in plastic cups and it tasted better
I'm from Honduras. Without knowing any of all this, when I first visited US a few years ago I tasted a Coke and instantly felt it was just wrong. I had a hard time finishing it. I didn't buy any other coke there again.
My country produces a lot of sugar, so I'm confident that we still use real sugar here.
Yo igual fui el año pasado y me supo cuando te sirves un vaso de coca con hielos pero pasa tanto tiempo que los hielos se derriten y se hacen agua entonces queda rebajado, te supo parecido a eso? Saludos
igual, la coca en nicaragua sabe diferente incluso aqui en mexico
@jimjd1969 Got'em!
@jimjd1969 He said "visit". Don't let your personal politics interfere with your reading comprehension.
@@kilroy2517 Got'em!
Johnny: "Mexican coke"
Me, a man of culture (and Mexican): "Mexicoke"
no
@@gaoelnlaojehc8913 yes
@@gaoelnlaojehc8913 SI
You should know Mexicans will make double-sense jokes with the "MexiCook "
JAJAJJAJA que buen chiste pana
The taste from a glass bottle is just so much smoother
u know that "just" the glas Bottle has an impact on the taste
The glass bottle does make it taste better.
@Tristan Burke clean the rim of the bottle top after you open it that should work, to get rid of that aluminum cap oxidation taste.
Or the texture of the glass touching your lips is more appealing than plastic or aluminum. It could also be that plastic and aluminum leaches into the product, changing the flavor.
yea the glass coke has always tasted better. The can coke is the worst and plastic bottle takes 2nd place.
Exactly glass allows higher pressure so more CO2 and does not allow oxidation of the contents. That is why beer is still never packaged in plastic bottles.
"Let me tell you about what I've learned about this Mexican coke over the past few days sitting here in isolation," sounds really bad out of context. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I always thought “Columbian” “Coke” was the gold standard.....
Can you imagine how sales would rocket with the original coca recipe
*Colombian
the Republic of Colombia*
I'm brand loyal to Bolivian.
Same
It the glass bottle that make it taste so different. You don't fine Beer sold in plastic.
You’ve clearly not had Mexican Doritos. Challenge delivered.
Yes. 2/3 of the mexican bag contains AIR.
Tapatio flavor
@@Pejelo don't forget to mention how the bags are also longer and some even have tape so you can reseal them.
@@JS-qi1ou the promotional things, yes. A way to close them.
Doritos or Duritos?
I had a Coke in Mexico in 2014. It was in a glass bottle from a vending machine. The taste immediately transported back to my childhood in the 1970s. Until that moment, I had forgotten how good Coke used to taste. I had never heard anything about Mexican Coke being different.
here in the staes you can find u.s coke in glass and it tast way better i have a store that opened up next to my house that sells it
@@diamondly6250 dude. Make ur own, DO NOT TELL THE KIDS
Trust me.
It tastes exactly like coke from the 70s.
the thing is, Coca Cola in Mexico belongs to FEMSA, a local company. It's sort of a distributor in a MAJOR scale (FEMSA takes care of distribution even in some South American countries), and FEMSA implemented an strategy of having production in every city, and they buy the ingredients available at the time and place. Not all Mexican Coca Cola is equal and that's where this video is wrong.
"FEMSA owns 47.9% of the world's largest bottler of Coca-Cola by volume, Coca-Cola FEMSA, S.A. de C.V. (NYSE: KOF), which operates in ten countries covering the metropolitan area of Mexico City, southeast Mexico, Central America, South America, and the Philippines."
Us: uses corn syrup in coke
Rest of the world: that's too unhealthy, we'll just use normal sugar...
US: MEXICAN COKE!
for the love of god put a dot between "U" and "S" it just sounds like you're saying "us"
@@aquarius5264 I did get the context.
México moved to corn syrup for a similar reason than America at the turn of the century.
The government here is so corrupt the former president Felipe Calderón managed to use his government influence to buy all sugar production for himself, increasing the prices, leading to Coca-Cola moving to corn syrup in Mexico too.
Any sugar based Coca-Cola bottle brought from Mexico was bottled prior to 2009.
It was not the tax thing in 2013. It was before that.
They screwed us over too.
To this day things have gotten worse in general tbh.
Canada started using corn syrup in soft drinks at the same time as the US. So there goes that theory....
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Spoken like someone who doesn't know how anything works. The fuck you mean by "used his influences to buy all the sugar production"? As of 2018, production of cane sugar reached 55 million tons a year. Do you honestly think Calderón has that much money? And why would one need political influence to buy anything?
will you apologize ?
Imagine having coke with corn syrup
This post was made by Europe gang
This post was made by the metric gang
@@kid_doonski Sure buddy, whatever you say
@Rodrigo Rex they gota keep 'em diabetus
@@thepenguin9 Those two emojis next to each other could be considered a political statement.
Sugar isn't that great either, but the difference is sugar can at least metabolize in different parts of the body. HFCS only metabolizes in the liver, causing fatty liver (where your body thinks you've become an alcoholic) leading to obesity, leading to Diabetes and a slow death. There's no way to avoid HFCS because it's also used as a preservative and is CHEAP as hell compared to sugar.
I thought you were going to talk about Coca-Cola taking over all the water springs in southern Mexico making it impossible for some indigenous communities to have access to fresh water..... Oh well, as long as people can still drink their coca
@I C : And many more had to dedicate themselves to planting Marihuana....The laws of supply and demand rule everything.
White Americans only care about Mexicans once they get here! Hence Avacado's. White People love them and they've been killing off poor Mexicans since the 1990's!
Ok, how about they close the factories and end all the jobs there and in the associated supply chains?
COCA COLA DEATH SQUADS IN COLUMBIA
@@1701spacecadet yes please
Here's the chemistry:
Johnny, I like your videos for the well researched content, this one though is a bit shy on the chemistry you presented so I felt the need to reach out.
Basically, sugar = sucrose (1molecule of glucose+1molecule of fructose bonded together into a new molecule called sucrose). So if you completely break down all the sucrose in a solution, you will get a 50:50 mix of glucose and fructose.
However, unprocessed corn syrup = mostly glucose. So, to make corn syrup somewhat resemble sugar, some of the glucose (~42%) is converted to fructose. Thus the processed corn syrup now has more fructose than what it started with, hence the name: "high fructose corn syrup" and it is named as such not because it has high fructose compared to normal sugar (in fact it has less, 8% less), but because it has more fructose than natural corn syrup.
Now, coming to the journal article you presented (demerits for not putting in proper citation, which would have made it easier for me to find the original paper): Coca-Cola is acidic, you can even tell it by the taste. In such an acidic solutions, the sucrose will break down to the fundamental constituent molecules (not elements): glucose and fructose. So, to note that the authors found 48:52 fructose: glucose in Mexican coke makes the composition closer to sugar (50:50 glucose: fructose) than high fructose corn syrup which only has 42% fructose and 58% glucose.
So, I say don't lose faith on your favorite drink. Cheers
Thank you when he kept saying fructose and glucose arent sugars but are elements i wasnt so sure how well he read that scientific paper
Thank you for posting this. I was thinking along these lines. He's getting caught up in the words without truly understanding what they mean.
Thanks, It's exactly what i said above
and dosnt the -ose mean sugar anyway?
i get table/cane sugar is sucrose but there are other sugars (lactose is one that comes to mind)
@@Reverend_Josh that is a very tricky question, because the answer will depend on the scope you are seeking. To an organic chemist: yes sugars/monosaccharides (even some disaccharides) end in-ose.
However, will a common man just add any of these -ose to his cup of coffee? No.
Because these -oses include ribose, deoxy-ribose, arabinose, lactose, galactose, mannose etc etc.
In the UK the iconic Irn Bru was ruined by sugar tariffs and the makers began using artificial sweeteners. Consumers were so angry that the makers brought out Irn Bru 1901, which is the version from that year which only has sugar.
“Tokenizing Mexican culture...”
Dude, that packaging is awesome. I wish we had it here in Mexico. Please stop being offended for us.
I dont think hes being offended for you I think hes criticising the use of Mexican culture or the appearance thereof rather than the actual product for sales.
@As a Mexican I'm only offended when nachos are sold as Mexican food
Nachos are mexican though
I don't think that was what he meant, I think he was pointing out how they slap spanish words on a bottle and call it mexican when really it just an american drink.
Whike it may not offend you it probably does someone else. And if you dont think its offencive its is a little fucking corny and taking advantage of a culture to sell more.
I love how you’re not above drinking it anyway.
He should be
Thats some expensive water
“I’m bored” level: I’m gonna make a full research about Mexican Coke so people stop consuming it but at the end encourage people so they continue consuming it. Love it BTW
What, there's no cocaine in Coke ?!?!?!?
Hunter Biden is going to be SO disappointed.
😁😁😁😁
As a Mexican im sad... shout to the homies that remember that burning flavor 🥲
I thought i had lost the taste bud, turns out they changed it on me!
it does taste different because the brain says it is
It taste bland now
You have to get the cane sugar one
As a Latiwanna I feel your pain.
Johnny: "People like me really like Mexican coke"
The DEA: "Write that down!"
No need to write it down, the US Tyranny's NSA has it recorded and filed away.
9:24 I'm Mexican and I have never seen that kind of package in my entire life.😂 The crystal retro bottle is pretty common in taco stands, tho.
I never knew they sold it at retail. Only got it from taco stands
Clorox Bleach it’s different because you gotta bring an empty crystal bottle of coke in order to take one...
they sell them in the small bottle size vs the medio litro bottles. You can find them at Target or supermarkets sometimes.
Red cola is the best in Mexico
lo mismo pensé en mi vida y eso que llevo 23 años viviendo aquí me he topado con ese empaque
I grew up in the 70s and remember what good Coke tasted like (Old school Coke and Vanila ice cream was our Friday night treat growing up). My grandfather was a truck driver for multiple soda comapnis so we had all sorts of soda around. It was way better than today's soda. I lived in LA from 1999-2010 and there was a Mexican market at the end of my block that sold the Mexican soda and it was the same as I remember as a kid. I have not had it since because I've just not seen it around my area currently. Having said all that I have not bought a case of soda in 3 decades other than for mix drinks. The carbonation and (I believe) plastic bottling makes it not enjoyable anymore for a treat... It tastes nothing like it used to.
With how 2020 has gone I think we deserve to have the cocaine put back in.
Yes
I agree
Nothing makes more sense
Agreed, let’s organize-
Worst case scenario, we may be able to persuade the Mexican Govt. to start bottling “Meth-Ican Coke.”
Agreed!
The real question: what about yellow cap Kosher for Passover Coke, which has to have no corn to be kosher for passover?
I hadn't seen your response and made my own comment about it. I can no longer have sweetened beverages but used to go to the kosher markets before Passover to buy Coke and Pepsi. My non-Jewish coworkers used to rave about it. Me? Not so much - they all taste sweet to me.
why is corn not kosher?
@@TaikiFouLung Just for passover you avoid certain grains. Its a seasonal thing
Just commented the same. Anyone can taste the difference and it's not the sweetener. 🙄
My high school chemistry teacher (in Mexico) used to work at Coca Cola, and she told us while sugar was important to how it tastes, the minerals in the water also help a lot.
Honestly not sure how much it affects and how different could it be, never really questioned it until I saw this video.
(also tip from someone who worked as a biochem in Coca Cola in Mexico, not me btw, they use an industrial process with gm bacteria to duplicate the ammount of sugar in their product without spending X2 the ammount in sugar cane, which already is pretty expensive 🙃)
Hmm.. references?
It’s not about the sugar, it’s about the glass. Aluminum cans change the flavor. I am originally from Brazil, and I can attest coca-cola tastes the same over there and in the US. The canned ones. We have Coca Cola sold in glass bottles and they’re actually better.
I FREAKIN KNEW IT. I grew up in Mexico and remember how delicious and addictive coke was, but as soon as we moved to the states it tasted awful. When I saw they had “Mexican coke” at Costco years later I bought it without hesitation and though to myself, “ this is not Mexican coke” I thought I was crazy. However when I go to Mexico and drink coke there it’s amazing again. I don’t think all places have converted to HFCS. Regardless👍🏽
I can get Mexican Coke close to where I live, and it sure tastes better. I usually buy the one litre bottles.
When I visited the USA coke made me ill and tasted awful. But the USA uses HFC and Australian coke uses cane sugar because we grow loads of sugar haha
Austria doesn't use HFCS at all afaik, i do not think it is banned, but if something is produced locally, it uses sugar. So all the soft drinks and stuff are made with sugar here too.
A chegar
I don't believe any country besides the US uses HFCS in coke
I am Filipino, and what we do here is that we finish our bottles, we return them to the store we bought them.
These glass bottles are mostly sold by small vendors or catering services.
As a Syrian I remember that we'd get coke in a plastic bag tied around the straw (don't even ask how that works) because often it was cheaper than buying the actual bottles, and I believe those bottles were later returned to the manufacturer or something.
They do the same thing in Mexico
India too
Basically any country that's not US, I guess lol
We do the same thing in Mexico, actually.
"Some things are better left hidden." - Julius Caesar
Yeah! Like really sharp daggers. RIP JC! 😉🤣
When we eat sucrose, the enzyme sucrase breaks it down into glucose and frutose.
Acidity also does that to sucrose.
Coke is acid.
Maybe that's why they can't find any sucrose. Probably corn syrup and cane sugar have different fructose/glucose ratios, explaining the different taste.
Update: Corn syrup can have from 53% up to 90% fructose. Sucrose is 50% fructose, 50% glucose.
Glucose tastes less sweet than both fructose and sucrose.
So using the same amount of sugar, you have different results in taste.
The one using sucrose (broken down into glucose and fructose after contact with the acid) tastes more mild, smooth, with less cloying, syrupy taste.
Mexican coke is so popular in the us that the government decided to build a wall
@Apy man! "get your genuine Mexican cocaine-ola from your local Mexican dealer."
And now blue states are hiding the exits signs 😁
@@levidavis1093 I see you are a man of culture
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually for human trafficking. I ain't doing the research for ya.
In Latam there's another debate about Coca-Cola taste: Glass bottle vs plastic bottle vs coke can and the favorite choice usually is the glass bottle.
I was thinking this might be the main difference in taste (assuming that a. cane sugar is actually not used in imported Mexican coke and b. the taste difference goes beyond the placebo effect). I think there is a difference in how each material chills with refrigeration. There may also be some difference in how the gas interacts with the container. I don't actually know that for sure, but if you ever drink Coke through a paper straw, it has a lot more fizz than when drinking through a plastic straw (pretty sure I saw a video about that somewhere on UA-cam), so maybe there is a similar but smaller effect when changing the container materials. And I prefer glass as well.
Thick returnable PET Coca-Cola is better than the glass Coca-Cola.
For a while Mexican soda pop was All still made with sugar while USA made soda pop used corn syrup. Mexico can grow more cane sugar than the USA. Richard Nixon started the use of corn syrup as a method to stabilize food prices. Sugar was a commodity that could have wild price swings and that caused food prices to swing wildly too. (food with sugar in it anyway) Now even a fast food hamburger and even pizza dough are loaded up with loads of sugar or corn syrup. At one time Mexican pop was better than USA pop, but that ended around the the year 2000 or so. It was obvious to me. I quit drinking pop all together. It's crap water.
In Ireland, the coke in a can tastes better than the plastic bottle option. If you can find it in a glass bottle, go for it. But the glass bottle for some reason is twice the price. Hooray for going green!
Same here in the philippines. Glass bottle cola is KING! (iisang HARI)
As a Latino I tell you what happened: some guys bought the cheap US coke, put it into a Mexican bottle and sold it expensive to stupid hipsters
Fkin smart but actual coke from Mexico contains sugar cane or are they getting scammed as well?
@@donkeydik2602 Dependes on the season. Most of the year they use sugar cane, but now and then they replace it with stevia -which makes Coke taste different...
Hipsters love paying more for stuff...lol
Another thing to keep in mind: each bottler adds their own water. You can taste a difference even if all other ingredients are the same
"But don't worry, your bottle of coke doesn't include any coca leaves; doesn't include cocaine."
Don't you mean "unfortunately"?
it does contain coca leaves, just with the cocaine extracted
I thought the difference in taste was due to the glass, which is inert, unlike the vinyl lining inside aluminum cans.
It is the glass. Just like Beer in a bottle tastes better than beer in a can.
yes i it is lmao, it could also be the water. either way it def tastes different from american coke
betzy Were you... watching?
I’ve lived in Mexico for 8 years now and often travel to the states and the biggest difference that I’ve seen between USA coke and Mexican coke is the carbon dioxide content. In Mexico the coke is more bubbly and fizzy by far. In Mexico we drink it out of bottles almost always and in the USA mostly everyone drink coke from fountain drink machines and the gas content is less. The taste is the same in my opinion but Mexican coke makes me burp more lol 🙈
Bottled and fountain soda are two different things.
If you're at a significantly higher elevation in Mexico, as you can be in Mexico city, the air pressure pushing down against the coca-cola liquid is less and it will release it's carbonation more quickly. Same is true in Denver. Also, water boils at a lower temperature at a higher elevation..
Have you noticed that the regular coke in Mexico has artificial sweeteners? I now prefer American coke
Regular Koke is awful, Diet koke is better,,a little
Tastes different to me
Here in Mexico City coke is normally sold in plastic bottles, and it has HFCS on the ingredient list. Usually glass bottle coke is sold at restaurants and fast food stands on the street while in corner stores and supermarkets it is usually plastic.
I live in México, and I used to live in Canada. When I was up there, I tasted the mexican Coca-Cola they selled, I even managed to bring back one bottle and compare it to one I bought back here in México. It still tasted different.
I am from a small town who has a bottler of coke in it, and really close from there, a mill where they produce sugar made of cane. If you live near that area, you can sometimes see trucks from that mill enter the bottler of coke, so yeah. At least in that area they use cane sugar.
There are a million reasons why they could’ve tasted different for you
@@liiillllliiilllliilllliii9461 a million? Really?
Finally. An actual true reason from a native.
Not these yt ppl acting snobbish saying "ewee ets ectually fremm glass bottleee blaaa3"
Like a kid not doing the experiment, but just following what his scientist dad says even though he never did any experiments with it
I believe you, it tastes so much better on the bottle Ingredients it least
cane sugar.. A coke drinker can tell the difference..
The cold bottle diffently helps as well, I admit..
Temperature and how it's stored will also have a pretty drastic effect on the taste
Real Coke fans stock up during Passover when they actually do temporarily switch to Sugar to become kosher for Passover.
You can identify these cane sugar bottles by looking out for the bottles with yellow caps.
Yessss! Thank you!
@crash burn right its usually only available in grocery stores with a Jewish food section in areas with a sizable Jewish population.
@World Viral Daily You’re probably one of those grass eating vegans. No one that drinks soda gives a f***.
Amen! Yellow caps are the way to go!
Chem engineering student here: Coke production is basically adding water to the secret syrup imported from the US. One of the main reasons the Mex coke tastes better is the glass bottle (already explained in the top comment) but another important factor that changes the taste is the water used. You see, every coke plant has a water treatment plant attached because they use the water from the region they are installed. So for the higher coke tasters, coke from different regions will taste different, not for the ingredients, but simply because the water of every region is slightly different in mineral composition.
They add water and sugar and gas!
That’s true. Water taste diferent
That´s actually true, not just for sodas, but also for beers. You may think is logical since water is the main ingredient on both beverages but not many people think about it. Also, in case of imported/exported beverages, the way long transportation is done and final shelf life can also affect the final taste. I´m from Mexico but lived for a year in the UK and got used to european beers around, but once I came back home and found those brands in local stores, they just don´t taste the same.
Best coke is the french one i thinks. Real sugar and one of the best water in the World if is not the best
It also tastes different because the Mexican Coke sold in the US has 150 calories vs. 140 calories for the American one. More calories = more sugar/sweetener, so of course it tastes better to many. More sodium in the Mexican one too. Read the nutrition labels.
Funny that Coke tried to increase the sweetener with New Coke back in the 80s and people lost their minds. Turns out Coke was right: people prefer sweeter.
I got ahold of a carnitas recipes that called for Mexican Coca cola when I told my Mexican friend he looked at me like I was silly when I told him how I cooked it
I had to look everywhere for one too. All my other ingredients he approved of but hey everybody's recipes different. And the tacos actually were really good.
Actually coke still contains coca leaves, but they are processed in a government watched facility to extract cocaine for use in the medical field. The leaves give the drink a certain flavor
They really should not go through so much trouble. A little cocaine never hurt anyone.
Paul Frederick it can if you are already taking certain medications or are hyper sensitive to it.
Yeah... medical use 🤣😂🤣😂
@muhammad wafri not after you cook it it doesn't.
Yep. This is one of the few things about the Coca Cola recipe we can be sure about, because only a few companies are allowed to import coca leaves, and one of them makes the flavoring extract for Coca Cola. If cocaine was ever legalized and import restrictions on coca leaves were lifted, Coca Cola could remove it and we'd never know, because that extract is a flavoring agent that doesn't have to be disclosed as an ingredient, like most spices and flavorings.
Johnny Harris, the last person on the planet that didn't know Coca-Cola used to be made with coca leaves.
Ikr, I thought "wait, you didn't know that?" 🙊👀
It's still made with coca leaves, just that it has been treated to take out the cocain from them. They bought it from the only pharma company that us allowed to make cocain in the US.
@@22espec yep I thought this was common knowledge. Weird :/
Corn is also from Mexico. BOOM, we got em' boys! hehe
Chocolate too
Apparently aliens too?
@@rust9542 No. That's just History Channel's bullshit.
We got a lot of things that are native to mexico
@BeastW i thought chocolate came from africa, learned something today ig
As a Canadian, the funny thing is that most of my fellow Canadians seem to think that our soft drinks don't contain HFCS. False: most contain a mixture of sucrose and HFCS. It's simply labelled differently: "Sugar, Glucose-fructose."
"IT'S A LIE! IT'S FAKE!
and I'm gonna keep buying it." 🤦♂️
Drinks taste better in glass bottles, it really is a difference just in that, and they also taste better becuase you expect them to taste better
lol, naz, have one on , me
Mexican coke used to be done with cane sugar. In Mexico we noticed the change. Exactly when they started to make disposable plastic bottles they started to make coke with corn syrup even for glass bottles... Before that, it was delicious !!
Here in Peru was the same. I remember my grandpa used to buy a 3L bottle every weekend. He called it “El elixir de la vida”. Its taste was like magic. But suddenly the flavor changed and we started drinking Pepsi.
My family talks about it every time we drink any soft drink.
You should try some Coke from Mauricius or France (Réunion Island), factories are using local cane sugar but i didn't ever taste the corn syrup one .
cane sugar
Plastic bottles affect the flavor glass doesn't. That's why it tastes better not the sweetener
thought they switched back to cane sugar... last I checked, an imported glass bottle, it said cane sugar in the ingreditants list.
Most sweet products from Mexico now have 2 black octagons that say they are high in sugar so if they don't have that they don't actually come from Mexico.
That’s a new thing thanks to the new Mexican president.
They took characters off of candy & any sweets targeted at youth & that includes salt & sodium in excess.
And apparently kids can’t buy candy by themselves they need an adult.
That’s what my family explained to me
This video is 1 year old, before they implemented the labels.
@@imafunguy14
Kids can still buy candy and sodas everywhere in Mexico except in the state of Guerrero.
@@hellvengtfo Oaxaca
@@imafunguy14 The president had almost nothing to do with that.
Here in Mexico, around 2001-2002 Pepsi actually changed from cane sugar to HFCS. They promoted it as changing from the "Mexican" fomula to the "International" formula. And thus most sodas are not sugar sweetened anymore. Only regional smaller soda makers seem to be using sugar but regulations popping up in the last few years regarding calories, sugar, etc are forcing them to also adopt artificial sweeteners.
Coca leaves aren't a derivative to make cocaine, they would be a precursor*
Would you even really say precursor, given that they literally contain cocaine so it's just a case of extracting it?
More like the integral, eh?
wow, intresting. in sweden we use suger beet in our coke. never thought about the fact that other countrys might use something els.
That's normal for Scandinavia (I'm in Denmark). Beet sugar is still sucrose though, like 'normal' cane sugar is.
The thing with coke is it adjusts the sugar to whatever is available like he said, corn syrup is cheap in the USA so they use it sugar beet might be the cheapest thing but sugar beet 🤔
Every swedish i know drinks coca cola zero .
Need to go to Sweden 😋
I think most if not all of europe uses sugar beet, both in the production of coca cola and as a main source of sugar
I think this is just some "Placebo like effect" phenomenon where you think it tastes better, but in reality it just tastes the same...
Like back in the 1980's Coke said it was bringing out New Coke suddenly everyone was saying it didn't taste the same and signing pertitions to bring back the old coke when they hadn't rolled it out yet.
sweat is sweat....
Nope, I live in Juarez city, in the border with the US, if you go to eat at a local market for some burritos, you'll be able to choose between a glass mexican bottle and a can of COKE, people who run restaurants and street locals usually go to El Paso TX, and buy boxes of American coke, because it's way cheaper, but people prefer to drink mexican coke because it taste way better, and even much better if it is a cold glass one.
No, Mexican come it is in fact better
I went to a Mexican restaurant and asked for a bottle of Coca Cola and it taste different than the can of Coca Cola I usually drink. Also McDonald’s Coca Cola has a different taste to me. But Mexican coke have a sweet syrup like taste. McDonald’s has a watery taste but also has more bite (if that makes sense) to it than a can of coke and Mexican coke.
I know I'm not the only one who never tasted a difference between the two.
Just drink water Johnny.
Lots of love to your lovely fam.
Video starts at 3 minutes. The lie is at 7 minutes
Thanks
Not all glass bottles that have “Mexican Coke” in them are made without cane sugar. You just have to know where they sell it at.
How!
@@ethanwild3301 you have to look at the ingredients label. Look for “Cane Sugar”
There are some glass bottles that don’t have cane sugar.
Exactly
I saw Mexican coke in the grocery store the other day. Didn't day anywhere where it was made. Real Mexican coke says in small print where it's from and the ingredients are slightly different
I've seen a mix of different variations of Mexican Coke here in LA recently, presumably from different bottlers. Some are marked "sugar," some "cane sugar," and I just recently encountered my first bottle with HFCS on the label. The HFCS one was also interesting because it had no red on the bottle, just white printing on the glass and a light-colored (kind of a very pale lime green color iirc.) cap, and the flavor was immediately noticeable as different from the stuff I normally get and more like regular American Coke - and I noticed this *before* checking the ingredients. I wonder if the researchers who analyzed the coke got the "wrong" version and the real cane sugar stuff still exists but only if you track it down.
I thought that cap on his bottle looked suspicious! I had to double check my stash and the bottles I have with a red cap say 'cane sugar' on the ingredient list, and it doesn't have the syrupy taste.
That might have been a bottle of Coke from Mexico for the Mexican market and not a bottle of Coke meant for export
Did it have double octagons on the cap and bottle?
I agree... he's making an assumption of the "Mexican coke" bottle they used for the experiment.