How many times did it take to get it? I notice the other balls mysteriously disappeared. The best way to play this shot is to never leave yourself in that position in the first place!
I made this shot about 5 years ago in a tournament at the local bar. My shot was harder as it was the length of the table, not the width, and the Q-ball was nearly frozen against the cushion. I consider it one of the top 5 I ever made. I was 75 at the time, been shooting pool since 14.
Awesome. Made me literally LOL when you did it. I grew up with pool tables in our basement as a kid on Chicago's NW Side and was seen as pretty damned good. I could hold my own against some regulars, but I've never seen this kick-shot made. In that scenario, I might have tried for a safety shot off the 8 that put the cue ball at the farthest opposite corner from me...and then 🙏.
I learned this shot in the late '60s but on the long rail and using low English with the spin. Back then there weren't any low deflection shafts and even more compensation had to be taken into consideration.
The only problem with using low inside spin instead of just inside spin is you can't quite put the same amount of extreme spin that this shot requires sometimes. Using low with the sidespin does however help the cueball curve back a little after the squirt.
It took me around 25 attempts to get this one, from the headstring though and parallel w/ the object ball not the rail :D as an intermediate guy getting used to playing with a lot of side I think practising a very extreme shot like this helped a ton! You can even feel the contact is a bit different when you strike the ball so wide, teaches you that you must get through it properly ^^ highly recommend trying this shot out.
He’s missing the ball by a millimeter, with spin, then after the rail, it will kick off and hit it in perfectly. That’s an awesome shot. I always said:”It’s all in the cue contact or English”
The key is to aim the cue ball slightly at the object ball so the 'deflection effect', caused by striking the cue ball on the right side (right hand english) changes the direction of the cue ball enough to move it to the left and fully onto the rag.
I had a pool table growing up, and taught myself a lot of shots, including this one. But I never knew about the cue ball deflecting due to the off center strike. I guess I just adjusted for that. But now when I shoot on another table with unfamiliar cue sticks I know to test that to see how much the cue flexes. Many thanks for that great tip!! Edit: Liked and subbed. 😀
This shot I made many times. My past time hobby was working in pool halls. From top short rail to bottom short rail, did it many times. Br the way I'm 77.
Efren would bank off the opposite end of the table, back down to the 8, or how bout banking the 8 off the side you are on, back to the corner on our side?
Cool! I wonder if you could improve the video by showing some slow motion. From the angle you're showing, and another angle overhead. It would be neat to see the English.
Shoot that ball at about 25% of that speed and you will make it more often. The spin takes so much better at a low speed. Try it and then reply if you want.
You can do from an even more extreme angle if swerve it, but the the issue that is you have hit it with so much power with millimeter precision just knock the object ball along the cushion with the thinnest of cuts. The shot is most likely to be played if you're ball is near a rail cushion and the object ball is inches from the pocket and tight on the cushion. Good luck ever pulling off that shot in a pressure situation.
Dupree’s Diamond Blues is an old Grateful Dead song check it out if you haven’t heard it - the song references jelly roll will drive you so mad - in pool jelly roll means lucky miss
......I always enjoyed making the 8 on the break, it took much practice ...set Cue ball just off the right rail ( 2 inches off rail), hit the 3rd ball in hard with bottom left English, the 8 ball will bank off the left rail & in the right-side pocket... much easier to attain with a custom stick...🌴🎱
Wait a doggone hairy-legged minute!! In other videos you said left spin on the cue ball makes object ball go to the right, right spin on the cue ball makes object go left. I know I heard you say that- you repeated it three or four times. So, if the desired pocket is to the right of the object ball, you would want left spin on the cue ball, not right spin. True? 😊
I don't think you understand the physics of this shot. He definitely explained it correctly. Right hand spin makes the cue ball go off the rail to the right. What you misunderstood was when he was talking about deflection. Deflection always occurs in the opposite direction of the spin. Right hand spin makes the cue ball deflect to the left, and vice versa. This does not change the spin though. Right hand spin is always going to make the ball spin to the right.
Just because it looks difficult to you, does not mean it is difficult for other people. This is a fairly simple shot for anybody that knows how to execute it.
@Regoriroger That's an extremely low percentage shot. One should always consider another shot. By the way, I understood the tutorial, but it's obvious you don't understand alternative thinking.
You might get away with that a couple of times on a pool table with wider pockets that are cut with angled cushions to accept the object ball, but no chance on a UK pub pool table with narrower pockets with rounded cushions or on a full size 12 x 6 snooker table. 😂
@@Regoriroger Agreed, UK pool and snooker table pockets have rounded cushion openings if they don’t just graze them, they bump between and just sit over the pocket, so a right angled shot is not on, but very doable at less steep angles. On the table in the demo, the pocket has a flat cushion that steers the ball into the pocket.
This shot looks hard ..it’s actually very easy…once you make it the first time..this is a shot you should know if you want to play competitive pool.. I just have to add the dude that’s making the shot has exceptionally good eyes he’s making the shot the hardest way it can be made for that I give him full props… but like in my post I go off the end rail and come back two banks/rails in the corner….peace
If this was actually in a competitive game whoever was shooting would go off the end rail and come back and it would be called two banks you would hit the rail a second time just before it hit the black.. also if you were smart you would hit the end rail with a tiny bit of inside English to straighten the ball out before it came down to contact second rail and then contact the black..
Very confusing. It's called right hand spin but the cue ball spins left [ counter clockwise ]? In the UK this would be called "running side" because the object ball is accelerated by the side. Interesting to see it used for trick shots instead of cue ball positioning / pace control like in Snooker. Different objective I suppose
He never says anything about the ball spinning to the left. When you put right hand spin on a cue ball it deflects to the left, and vice versa. Deflection and cueball spin are two different things.
I guess he would have had to block every pocket on the table for people like you to not make this comment. The point of the video was to show an example of this type this shot for those that would like to expand their knowledge.
Howdy! I'm pretty new to APA, and even though it's not super common, shots like this can come up a decent bit. It's a hard but not impossible shot, especially on the 7 foot tables most players use. So while a professional player would likely avoid being in this position in the first place, it is decently common in amateur tournaments, if still rarely made.
That would be IMPOSSIBLE on a Snooker table; American Pool tables are designed in such a way that potting impossible balls is piss-easy even for a novice; the ULTIMATE challenge for any American Pool player would be to play Pool on a 9’ft Snooker table, you guys wouldn’t even pot a single ball 🤣.
I spent a lot of my youth in the local pool hall. Nobody taught this shot to me. That was fun. Thanks for posting.
I thought exactly the same thing but no one taught me anything there! I had to learn the old fashion way called play and pay.
I didn't learn that one either.
How many times did it take to get it? I notice the other balls mysteriously disappeared. The best way to play this shot is to never leave yourself in that position in the first place!
Well, that's not really even sound advice.
What if your opponent leaves you in that position?
That was a 4 minute explanation of a 5 second topic.
Sometimes your opponent leaves you with that shot
It might have been days later when he finally made the shot and he forgot he had those other balls on the table.
Could you explain this in more detail
I made this shot about 5 years ago in a tournament at the local bar. My shot was harder as it was the length of the table, not the width, and the Q-ball was nearly frozen against the cushion. I consider it one of the top 5 I ever made. I was 75 at the time, been shooting pool since 14.
Awesome. Made me literally LOL when you did it. I grew up with pool tables in our basement as a kid on Chicago's NW Side and was seen as pretty damned good. I could hold my own against some regulars, but I've never seen this kick-shot made. In that scenario, I might have tried for a safety shot off the 8 that put the cue ball at the farthest opposite corner from me...and then 🙏.
Wonder how many tries it took?
He spliced the video so it definitely wasn't on the first try. Lol.
No but this shot isn't that difficult with a little practice. I can do it fairly consistently
@@brandonboatner9952 No,what?
3 rail bank in the side or one rail kick from top short rail.
3 rails in the side pocket
Hope you've got deep pockets.
Nope 8ball is frozen you aren't banking or kicking it
I learned this shot in the late '60s but on the long rail and using low English with the spin. Back then there weren't any low deflection shafts and even more compensation had to be taken into consideration.
Yes, ten miles to get to school, uphill, in the snow.
@elpacho....9254 Snow in LB CA, don't think so. And it was only 7 miles to school and downhill. But already graduated, unlike others.
@@gerryspiro3945 graduated from the sixth grade?
The only problem with using low inside spin instead of just inside spin is you can't quite put the same amount of extreme spin that this shot requires sometimes. Using low with the sidespin does however help the cueball curve back a little after the squirt.
I practice this shot from the head rail to the foot rail, its called the impossible shot, very hard to do, but looks so cool when you make it
It took me around 25 attempts to get this one, from the headstring though and parallel w/ the object ball not the rail :D as an intermediate guy getting used to playing with a lot of side I think practising a very extreme shot like this helped a ton! You can even feel the contact is a bit different when you strike the ball so wide, teaches you that you must get through it properly ^^ highly recommend trying this shot out.
He’s missing the ball by a millimeter, with spin, then after the rail, it will kick off and hit it in perfectly. That’s an awesome shot. I always said:”It’s all in the cue contact or English”
The key is to aim the cue ball slightly at the object ball so the 'deflection effect', caused by striking the cue ball on the right side (right hand english) changes the direction of the cue ball enough to move it to the left and fully onto the rag.
@@leh3827wrong inside right English spins right not left
I had a pool table growing up, and taught myself a lot of shots, including this one. But I never knew about the cue ball deflecting due to the off center strike. I guess I just adjusted for that. But now when I shoot on another table with unfamiliar cue sticks I know to test that to see how much the cue flexes. Many thanks for that great tip!!
Edit: Liked and subbed. 😀
This shot I made many times. My past time hobby was working in pool halls. From top short rail to bottom short rail, did it many times. Br the way I'm 77.
Error, it's by the way not br,my mistake
Even when frozen, depends on how close it is to the pocket. I go down table for the bank, even if you're a little off, it goes in.
Efren would bank off the opposite end of the table, back down to the 8, or how bout banking the 8 off the side you are on, back to the corner on our side?
Cool! I wonder if you could improve the video by showing some slow motion. From the angle you're showing, and another angle overhead. It would be neat to see the English.
On UA-cam, click on the "Settings" icon at the bottom of the screen (looks like a gear). Click on "Playback speed. Choose 0.25.
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
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@@zeetty i did this but the image is bad,
There are plenty of videos online showing the slow motion physics of billiards. Look up Dr Dave.
A Great lesson on a Great shot. One that I was taught this past Winter. By a good Friend, & i was successful with it. Thank you.
May I ask that's what brand cue
Cool, thanks! But where is the side pocket at the bottom of the screen?
Just to the right of the 3rd diamond.
How many takes to get this? It would have looked more convincing if you hadn’t cut away prior to the shot.
Excellent tutorial
......You just taught me a new shot, very cool...A perfected back slap would be cool as well..... ...Old Naples Florida🌴🎱
Great instruction man. You explain very well
Very knowledgeable for a young dude....thanks ;)
I practiced this shot many times before. Great shot!
Shoot that ball at about 25% of that speed and you will make it more often. The spin takes so much better at a low speed. Try it and then reply if you want.
Great execution, great explanation.
You can do from an even more extreme angle if swerve it, but the the issue that is you have hit it with so much power with millimeter precision just knock the object ball along the cushion with the thinnest of cuts. The shot is most likely to be played if you're ball is near a rail cushion and the object ball is inches from the pocket and tight on the cushion. Good luck ever pulling off that shot in a pressure situation.
You will try it when you’re stitched up, not afforded any viable options, including safes.
How do you play with all that shit in the way?
Good pool player but a piss poor organizer.
How many tries did it take you before you made it?
Almost anytime the object ball is frozen to the rail you should hit the rail first, basic pool shooting 101!
Couldn’t have said it better
@@bobbycuesroadhouse2204How about when the 8 is 60 inches from the pocket instead of 16?
To pot a frozen ball up the rail it's best to have 50/50 contact with both ball and rail
@@bmac7885 I disagree, though there are circumstances where this true
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Excellent demonstration!
Dupree’s Diamond Blues is an old Grateful Dead song check it out if you haven’t heard it - the song references jelly roll will drive you so mad - in pool jelly roll means lucky miss
I wish u would have left your misses in there also. U know everyone will miss this a lot but watching u miss would help more.
I understand your point but believe it or not this is a very easy shot to make
......I always enjoyed making the 8 on the break, it took much practice ...set Cue ball just off the right rail ( 2 inches off rail), hit the 3rd ball in hard with bottom left English, the 8 ball will bank off the left rail & in the right-side pocket... much easier to attain with a custom stick...🌴🎱
Wait a doggone hairy-legged minute!! In other videos you said left spin on the cue ball makes object ball go to the right, right spin on the cue ball makes object go left. I know I heard you say that- you repeated it three or four times.
So, if the desired pocket is to the right of the object ball, you would want left spin on the cue ball, not right spin.
True? 😊
I don't think you understand the physics of this shot. He definitely explained it correctly. Right hand spin makes the cue ball go off the rail to the right. What you misunderstood was when he was talking about deflection. Deflection always occurs in the opposite direction of the spin. Right hand spin makes the cue ball deflect to the left, and vice versa. This does not change the spin though. Right hand spin is always going to make the ball spin to the right.
I was JUST thinkin about this shot for the first time the other day. thats funny
The Brand of your Queue?!
Cue
Awesome trick shots🌲
how many tries did it take you to make it? 100?
Just because it looks difficult to you, does not mean it is difficult for other people. This is a fairly simple shot for anybody that knows how to execute it.
Please the name of cue is it caron fiber ?
What about 3 rails in the side pocket?
What about it? Do you not understand the nature of this tutorial? He's explaining this shot, not looking for ways to make it in other pockets.
@Regoriroger That's an extremely low percentage shot. One should always consider another shot.
By the way, I understood the tutorial, but it's obvious you don't understand alternative thinking.
I have not seen any top snooker player using this technique, not applicable?
Great shot!! 3 rails are more fun 👍
Yep. Start playing snooker, banks, and golf. You will learn many different scenerios to make this ball and 3 rail bank. How about just playing safety.
Tree rails First , 8 in that corner .
You might get away with that a couple of times on a pool table with wider pockets that are cut
with angled cushions to accept the object ball, but no chance on a UK pub pool table with narrower pockets with rounded cushions or on a full size 12 x 6 snooker table. 😂
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Well you're just stating that the balls don't go in when riding the rails on your tables. That doesn't change the nature of this shot.
@@Regoriroger Agreed, UK pool and snooker table pockets have rounded cushion openings if they don’t just graze them, they bump between and just sit over the pocket, so a right angled shot is not on, but very doable at less steep angles. On the table in the demo, the pocket has a flat cushion that steers the ball into the pocket.
I would use one tip off center qb
Glad your back finally 🙌 😊
this shot is over fifty years old. I learn this shot in the 60's.
Great info.
Go up and back. Or 3 rail.
And lose all your money. Both of your suggestions are a much lower percentage shot.
This shot looks hard ..it’s actually very easy…once you make it the first time..this is a shot you should know if you want to play competitive pool.. I just have to add the dude that’s making the shot has exceptionally good eyes he’s making the shot the hardest way it can be made for that I give him full props… but like in my post I go off the end rail and come back two banks/rails in the corner….peace
After that great explanation I really really wanted you to miss it just for the comedy value. But no, seriously that was very cool, thanks
He might have, editors take care of this shit
Nice shot...ty
Great to see you back making videos...... Hope you keep them coming !!!! SALUTE !!!
When you were talking about the spin and deflection. Could you just used backhand English in this case? In this way the deflection is taken care of
Two tips inside spin and hit the cushion first.
If this was actually in a competitive game whoever was shooting would go off the end rail and come back and it would be called two banks you would hit the rail a second time just before it hit the black.. also if you were smart you would hit the end rail with a tiny bit of inside English to straighten the ball out before it came down to contact second rail and then contact the black..
Very confusing. It's called right hand spin but the cue ball spins left [ counter clockwise ]?
In the UK this would be called "running side" because the object ball is accelerated by the side.
Interesting to see it used for trick shots instead of cue ball positioning / pace control like in Snooker.
Different objective I suppose
He never says anything about the ball spinning to the left. When you put right hand spin on a cue ball it deflects to the left, and vice versa. Deflection and cueball spin are two different things.
Such a good teacher :)
Damn I like pools too but damn how many times you going to do that man just get on with the shot
How to make a 30s video 4mins long
How many attempts to make that low probability shot? I noticed all the other balls disappeared on the attempt you made it
It's not a low probability shot for anybody that knows how to execute it.
@@Regoriroger bull
Thanks Dude!👍
in theory it's not too hard but I can't imagine how many cuts this guy made 😂
It took a while to get to the point, but it's a good idea.
Crazy how your cue turns into your arm.
Thanks sir ❤
No hit should hit the rail on the other side to get the cue ball hit behind the eight
This sentence is nonsensical.
3 rails in the side has a greater chance to go in
I guess he would have had to block every pocket on the table for people like you to not make this comment. The point of the video was to show an example of this type this shot for those that would like to expand their knowledge.
1 rail cue ball up and back
Great tip! Thanks
damn, that's nuts ! :)
Great shot man!
step 1: play on a table where the pockets are as big as the grand canyon
DAMN!! 😲🙏
Make wooden cues great again.
I probably would have gone long end one rail with the cue ball.
Thanks
Yea but for people learning it’s good info
Just hit cushion first with inside right english it is a routine shot
I wish I could've seen that in slow motion.
Nice, 👍 it would've been better if the video didn't cut before you actually made it., just say'n. Still very good thankyou.
👍👍 Good shot, but to much blahblablablablaah!👍👍
I grew up in a pool hall
It's a two rail bank shot
I am so going to use this for evil purposes.
That's called the "roadman cut" :-)
you should have done this video in 30 seconds
Take up snooker 😂... Sorry guys but your decades behind
They are two different games. Are you going to tell all tennis players to take up badminton?
its a good shot to know, but its not easy, whatsoever to pull off for newer players.
Shot that is only made in playroom not in tournament. Even him would NEVER do this in actual game.
Howdy! I'm pretty new to APA, and even though it's not super common, shots like this can come up a decent bit. It's a hard but not impossible shot, especially on the 7 foot tables most players use. So while a professional player would likely avoid being in this position in the first place, it is decently common in amateur tournaments, if still rarely made.
You need to clear some room up. Too cluttered to play
First try
It's actually a bank shot.
For one shoot, million talks
It's not a difficult shot.
Umm, then play a treble instead of the double. Americans don't seem to realise you can play that shot. Be a damn sight easier than trying this
Or do a long bank
3 rails in the same side is an easier shot.
You can shoot that 8-ball cross corner....duh!
Or you can just go up to the Bar and buy a beer instead….
That would be IMPOSSIBLE on a Snooker table; American Pool tables are designed in such a way that potting impossible balls is piss-easy even for a novice; the ULTIMATE challenge for any American Pool player would be to play Pool on a 9’ft Snooker table, you guys wouldn’t even pot a single ball 🤣.
It's a kick
☝️😉