The injustice!!!!!! what right did Stanley have to Shoot the leader of a drunken ARMED gang that invaded his homestead intent on stealing his equipment.
While essentially true, it unnecessarily stirs the already boiling pot of racial relations. The truth can be wielded as a healing balm . . . or as a club. And as has been said, Truth without love is just brutality. Racial tensions arose because of brutality. We are not going to heal them with more of the same. BOTH "sides" need to own their own stink. It becomes racism (or sexism?) when one side or the other won't admit that their own shit stinks.
"MURDERER!" They yelled as the verdict was read. "RACISTS!" They said, to those who agreed with the verdict. But lets back track a little bit here. Colten had been drinking. That's a fact. The other people in the car had been drinking. That's a fact. They admitted to it. There was a loaded weapon in the vehicle. That's a fact. They had just come from a different farm, after stealing stuff from it. That's a fact. One person in the car tried to steal an ATV. That's a fact. The people in the car admitted to lying under oath. That's a fact. The others in the car admitted to attacking Stanley's wife. That's assault. A scuffle ensued, and due to some unfortunate circumstances, Colten paid the ultimate price, due to his own, and his friends, poor choices. Agreeing with the verdict, doesn't make me a racist. It makes me a realist. The economy has been in the shitter for the last what, 3 years? 4 years? And in that same amount of time, the crime rate has spiked substantially, especially rural crime. Look at it locally, when those 3 women were killed after being T-Boned by a vehicle that was stolen in town, and then went to a rural area, cased out some places, and then was reported and chased from a rural area home. These criminals know that the response time for police to get to a rural area, is astronomical, and they're using that to their advantage. And if they do get caught, they get a slap on the wrist. Steal a truck and wreck it? Pfft, 3 months in jail and probation. You've learned your lesson, now don't do it again young man! People are getting fed up. They're getting fed up with their vehicles getting stolen. They're getting fed up with their houses being broken into. They're getting fed up with criminals. And that's what Colten and his friends decided to do that day. Be criminals. Now, have you noticed that not once, have I mentioned race? That's because race doesn't matter in a case like this. What matters are actions. To Quote Sir Isaac Newton, "To every action there is always an equal and opposite or contrary, reaction." Now, he was talking about Physics in that general statement, but the meaning is the same, I feel for this situation. And the actions carried out by Colten and his friends, resulted in an opposite reaction, in the form of a man defending his property, and his family. The ones playing the race card, are also playing the victim card. "If Colten was white, and Stanley was Native, he'd be in jail." No. He wouldn't. If the cards played the same, but the races were reversed, It would have played out very similar. THIS. WAS. NEVER. ABOUT. RACE. THIS. WAS. ALWAYS. ABOUT. CRIME. "Why weren't there any indigenous people on the jury?" I actually have an answer for this one. There were WELL over 100 people interviewed for possible Jury Duty for this case. I had a couple friends that were summoned for Jury Duty. And they both told me the same thing. Now, quick run down about Jury Duty. You have to be impartial. You cannot side with either party, you have to rely solely on the facts presented to the argument. Both of my friends said the same thing. During the interview process, while in the waiting area, EVERY indigenous person present, were talking to each other, and saying how they wanted to hang Stanley. That's not impartial. (And it's not something you openly talk about, when officers are all around you, relaying that information to the lawyers and judge.) (Follow up, neither of my friends were selected for Jury Duty, as they felt that they'd be partial to siding with Stanley. Good on them for the honesty.) Is it sad what happened? Yes, Absolutely. No family should experience a loss like this. Is it Stanley's fault it happened? No, absolutely not. Stanley didn't invite them onto his farm. He didn't tell them to steal his stuff. He didn't say they could have his ATV. He didn't provide them with the alcohol that made their B.A.C. 3+ times the legal limit. Stanley was protecting himself, his family, and his property, from the threat of some criminals. End of Story.
//XANWOLF .FLOWXAN the media made it all about race.it is about guilty or not guilty.the jury could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt.And the jury selection are not conducted like tribal elections where the more people you have in your favour ensures your chance of election.
Very sad case all around. The facts coming out in trial however, paint Colten and his friends in a very poor light. They spent the MORNING and rest of the day drinking all day, shooting ducks from the vehicle (illegal) drinking and driving (illegal) breaking into vehicles (illegal) and finally trying to steal a truck and a quad at the farm Colten was shot at. One of the people in the vehicle had a firearms prohibition, several had criminal records.
Their lies have caught up with them once already, and once forensics reveals what really happened it's going to be game over for everyone wanting a conviction. Much like the michael brown case we will find those who act like psychopaths who think they can do as they please.... they meet their demise eventually. The only thing worse than having a cop testify against you is the fact that only the shooter is a valid witness to the shooting and he won't have to take the stand. 4 drunk witness all caught lying once, and soon to be caught lying undoubtedly about the events of that incident will be the only reason justice will be served. If you mislead the system with lies, you pay that price. Had the farmer not acted like that the bigger question of the day would be "who would be next" if they actually got away???
While I agree to a point . . . there also has to come a point when we accept that most of said "painting" and "poor light" . . . was provided by the litany of poor choices the adults in the vehicle freely and repeatedly made. The farmer that shot him was just the "final observer" of the work; trying to assess what this painting was about in the exceedingly poor light its creators provided. I have a great respect for what the Native Peoples once were. And it pains me to speak this truth, knowing that it will cause discomfort. or even accusation of "racial hatred". But the reality is that the outcome would have likely been similar if the apparent criminal invaders of this man's private property were white, red, green, black or purple. We have more than out-grown the phase where society is expected to allow "special dispensation" (or exemption from the consequences of one's actions), simply because of someone's racial history.
The farmer's "accident" was excused by the actions that led up to that point yes. The sad reality of this situation is that the driver if he wasn't sleeping at the wheel or passed out that he could have just as easily been armed and posed a threat to the farmer anyway. In this case accidental or not there is no reason to convict on any basis whatsoever. The fact that witness lies were taken seriously, etc. Is the actual racism here.
A thought. About the difference between a reason, and an excuse. An excuse is what everyone is looking for, because it gets you off scott-free. No consequence. Nothing to learn. No growth. Now try to exercise this as the "accident was reasonable, given the actions that led up to this point.". It leaves opening for both the society, the deceased man's community, AND the farmer to keep the learning process going. Nobody retreats into the delusion of "I am totally right, totally excused, totally beyond reproach . . . and therefore left with nothing to re-examine in my own life and possibly learn from".
The premise of their presence on Gerald Stanley's farm was criminal in nature. The driver of the vehicle was under a driving prohibition while driving around drunk on not just a flat tire but a completely destroyed tire. Anyone who saw something like that drive up your driveway in plain daylight hours... should consider that to not just be a threat but a significant and higher level threat. The level of this threat was only evidenced by the driver crashing into a parked vehicle while being in possession of a firearm while they were in the process of committing a crime. At the end of the day - there certainly are reasons to justify the farmer's actions. Is there any excuse for 5 drunk people to commit crimes and bear witness to an accident? No, there isn't a really good excuse for what they were doing that day and those other 4 people paid the price for being accessories to the crimes they were committing. If they'll willingly be passengers in a vehicle with a prohibited driver - there is little to no excuse that level of morality. As much as people want to pull the racist card, perhaps they should take a good hard look in the mirror and apply that same standard of racial scrutiny to the people in the vehicle. Why didn't they steal from their own community? Did they steal from their own community? Their former Cheif of the Red Pheasant First Nation was found driving while prohibited, where is their negative influence coming from that condones or promotes the idea that committing these kinds of crimes is in any way acceptable? If they had better influences in their own life I am going to assert that this instance of a farmer reacting due to a high presence of "issues" on their own society probably wouldn't ever occur in the first place. At this point we are _FAR BEYOND_ the idea of "excuses" and seeking _SOLUTIONS_ as to why 20-something yeard old native adults were committing acts of crime as if it were "normal" enough to defend with a crowd of people.... if you re-examine the situation, shifting the blame to the defending party ..... is not only delusional and counter productive but blatantly RACIST.
Colton Boushie was armed,drunk and trying to rob the farmer.But aboriginals ignore that fact that boushie was a thug,and want to call him a victim....The tragedy here is that the farmer is now being treated as the villain.Boushie got his justice,but native "leaders" will now use his death to further their political goals.Interesting that this guy talking about justice is dressed like a gang member.
rebecca you dumb bitch,the guy has to pay legal bills that would not exist but for the criminal activity of your scumbag pal,Colton Boushie.Instead of playing the victim card all your welfare subsidized life,try a job for a change.You would be amazed at how much more "respect" the "system" will have for you once you stop sponging off it....
I am sick of this. His death was a trsgedy nut to stand outside court and say it was cold blooded murder by a white farmer is ridiculous. Stanley is also a victim here. Noone, especially the First Nations peopleb want to admit he was engaged in criminal activities at the time of his deathn that he was a threat to the Stanley family and their property which he was on illegally at the time. Noone except neighbouring farmers will publicize the criminal activities that are being committed in relation to their property on a regular basis with little or no help from the legal system to resolve their fears. The RCMP have little cooperation within the First Nations, especially on the reserves and the First Nations Police are handicapped by politics, nepotism and relationships within the reserve. As politically incorrect as it is to say so, the natives have to learn respect for people and property. Without that as a starting point, there will be no common ground for the healing to start.
The title is very misleading. It should read "teenager gets killed while on a stealing spree" by reading the misleading title you would think the farmer did something wrong until you realize that the teenager and his friends brought a gun to the farm and almost ran over the farmer's son. And there is no reason to mention race in the title because this should never been an issue about race.
This video is about racism but Elsie is racist herself. At 4:14 by identifying the "White farmer"and that "white people have a law and (native... for a better term rather than Indian people) have a different law". She could have made her points by leaving racial identification out.
Armed robbery is a dangerous game and sometimes poor choices catch up with people. If it had been two First Nations on a reserve we would not even be hearing about this... this story is more about race than the young man's life. "There is one law for white people one law for Indian people, that's got to change man" I think a majority of white people would agree whole heartedly with that statement.
wheelzwheela No they don't. Sadly these young ADULTS Chose to drink and break the law all day! They chose to goonto that farm with criminal intent!Sadly this farmer chose to protect his family and his propertyand a young man lost his life! First nations are not misrepresented in the media! They are portrayed how THEY chose to behave! It turned out the way it did. because these young adults chose to act with criminal intent that day!! Cannot blame that on race!! Justice hasbeen served!!Maybe the native leaders should now focus On combating the choices their young people are choosing!! Cannot stand the wailing and drummg at the end!!
Unfortunately, this is exactly so. A socio-political agenda is dancing on this young man's grave. We should come together to celebrate the good; and to learn lessons from the bad and apply both as a memorial to him. I agree whole-heartedly with the assertion that we need to cease having one set of laws for Native peoples and another for Whites. This same outcome was entirely feasible if the out-numbering group found in the apparent commission of a crime were white, red, black, purple or polka-dotted: Armenian or Argentinian. There comes a point when trying to ride the victimhood bandwagon of "racial hatred against us" itself becomes the harbinger of great racial disrespect (if not downright hatred) in suggesting Native people need/deserve exclusion from the consequences of their own poor choice over the rest of us, simply because of their race -- or what happened to its ancestors.
wheelzwheela Yeah apparently First Nations people who break crimes including RAPING CHILDREN are given way less sentences because they’re “first nations and had a bad childhood.” They’re also sent to HEALING LODGES for a few months no punishment. That has to change. ASAP.
For crimes and associated aftermath that plays out totally within their community, they should be respectfully allowed to exercise their traditions and see where it takes their culture. But ones that cross over into the other culture inhabiting these lands, special treatment should not be expected just because of things that came before.
Dwayne Johnson trial just started a couple of days ago and I don’t actually think it had anything to do with race...everyone else is just making it sound like that. Guess we’ll see how things go. I feel for both families truthfully.
Vahaki Walahu they got immunity for taking the stand in trial. In which 2 of them admitted after to lying on the stand and in the initial investigation reports.
No matter what your ethnic background is, if everyone lived by this quote, this incident wouldn't have happened: “I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.”― John Wayne It doesn't take a high IQ to treat people and their property the way you would like in return. People who continue to commit crimes upon others and their property, have to pay the piper and may not like the tune being played. Criminals are taking a risk when they choose their victims as in the Stanley case. Imagine the robber who attempts to steal someones wallet at knife point. That victim may just be someone who can fight, who knocks the knife from the robber, the proceeds to knock his/her head off. The old saying "buyer beware" rings true: beware of the trouble you choose to buy, because you may not like the purchase, and there aren't any refunds.
I appreciate hearing what Colton's brother had to say. It has to be so hard to be in his position. Both brothers spoke really well. Thank you for your words. Your brother fucked up there. He didn't deserve to die. I'm a white man and I've done some crazy, stupid, harmful shit. I am really glad I was not shot for some of the stuff I did. I don't doubt that Colton was a good kid. My heart goes out to you. My heart goes out to Gerald too. I think he did the wrong thing but yeah he was put in a bad situation that he dealt with all wrong. Now he is paying for it. Please Gerald, reach out to the folks on the reserve and do what you can to make amends. Reconciliation is certainly needed here. It looks to me like both parties here have major work to do to achieve reconciliation.
We have reached a bizarre place where all of these people doing stupid, ill-advised, questionable or stupid stuff become "victims" when a consequence of the actions THEY set in motion results in a tragic consequence. We're treating everyone like they're children, with no notion of responsibility and accountability. And even more bizarre . . . is the notion that judicial realities need to change just because a certain race or sex is involved. You start your day with drinking. Take a bunch of your buddies out driving (likely a crime there). Trespass on someone's property (crime there). One or several people get out and start messing with stuff that isn't their's (another crime). Give very real indication that one's private property is being overrun with possibly intoxicated people up to criminal intent. At that point the set of possible consequences set forth by a litany of foolish choices probably wouldn't have differed if they were white, black, red or purple. I am sorry to say that the Native position here is just untenable. He didn't "accidentally" call for a gun or point it at them. Whether it "accidentally" went off (one possible criminal act) has become a total distraction that these young adults had embarked on a day of stupid, foolish, ill-advised and quite likely criminal acts. Yes, perhaps "low level" criminal acts. Perhaps fueled by alcohol and exacerbated by poor judgement. But is the position that young adults are "entitled" to a different set of judicial rules just because they are of a certain race?? And that "justice" is only served . . . when you are treated like children??
The Simple fact This young mans family, Tribe won't own the situation, that Colten and his buddies actions lead to his own death. Period, end of story! this was not about race as much as they and our weak Feminist PM think. BTW your brother had a gun in the vehicle he was in when out causing trouble, what was he doing with it? When you come onto land that is not yours, in a threatening manner (not selling girl guides...) you must understand the actions of the attacked party may end your life. That is the undue risk u take when you are in the WRONG! Period.
One justice system for white and on for natives. I completely agree. Many times there are instances of natives getting lesser sentences because of their race. I.E. the native rcmp who got a lesser sentence when he lied about the taser death of the old man at the Vancouver airport.
Dwayne Johnson IF native lives matter so much to them then they need to teach their young adults' not to be criminals and keep them away from alcohol!! Tired of them trying to make him out to be some good"boy". They had a fair trial and justice has been carried out!!
Rebecca P healing is not bought with billions of dollars! Healing happens when they decide to stop being eternal victims who are owed everything!! Healimg happens when they stop their communities from being alcoholics and druggies and teach them how to be responsible parents! Healing happens when they get educations and go to college and become productive members of society! Healing begins within themselves not blaming wvwryone else for their self inflicted woes!
At 7:09, Sandi says Debbie doesn't know what happened. That will come out at trial. But like Sandi, I hope some healing can come out of this. What relation is Lester Nicotine to Serena Nicotine? Why does the title say "First Nations boy"? He was 22 years old! Is that still a boy in Canada?? So many questions!!
Yo indigenous people already get special privileges apparently for many indigenous people who have gone to jail get to go to a special jail a “healing sweat lodge.” There was a case (yes in Canada.) where a indigenous man raped a 10 year old CHILD and got sent to this joke of a jail for like less than a year (couple months.) And escaped and had no repercussions. As of this case? Yeah okay your brother had a gun too and his wife got beaten up so. The jury wasn’t racist just because they were white get over it.
The kids screwed up yes, but the farmer did commit a crime. The farmer should have gotten some jail time. You cant justify murder, if that was the case, nobody would get charged. Did he feel threatened? Yes, does it justify pulling out a firearm and a killing? No . Property isnt worth death. Gerald stanley put his own family in danger as well. Call the cops, you take law into own hands, this is what happens.
da melchior it wasn't only about property. Boushie and his friends brought a gun to the farm and from the reckless driving they almost ran over the son. If an unidentified person break and enters a house but is shot. The home owner isn't going to get charged. This isn't that different. And had he did nothing and called police it would take longer than 15 minutes to reach a rural area. By that time the farmer or his family could have been killed either by the gun that the kids brought or by the vehicle. I'm not saying any situation means shoot on site but Boushie and his friends did give the farmer enough reason to pull the trigger and defend himself and his family.
boy?!?!?!? Was he a 22 year old boy?!?!?
HE WAS A GROWN MAN WHO MADE POOR CHOICES
The injustice!!!!!! what right did Stanley have to Shoot the leader of a drunken ARMED gang that invaded his homestead intent on stealing his equipment.
Canadian Beast apparently sarcasm is lost on you
Too funny simple
The title should say. Sask farmer on trial for second degree murder for shorting an armed young man while that was was attempting to rob him.
While essentially true, it unnecessarily stirs the already boiling pot of racial relations. The truth can be wielded as a healing balm . . . or as a club. And as has been said, Truth without love is just brutality.
Racial tensions arose because of brutality. We are not going to heal them with more of the same. BOTH "sides" need to own their own stink. It becomes racism (or sexism?) when one side or the other won't admit that their own shit stinks.
"MURDERER!" They yelled as the verdict was read.
"RACISTS!" They said, to those who agreed with the verdict. But lets back track a little bit here. Colten had been drinking. That's a fact. The other people in the car had been drinking. That's a fact. They admitted to it. There was a loaded weapon in the vehicle. That's a fact. They had just come from a different farm, after stealing stuff from it. That's a fact. One person in the car tried to steal an ATV. That's a fact. The people in the car admitted to lying under oath. That's a fact. The others in the car admitted to attacking Stanley's wife. That's assault. A scuffle ensued, and due to some unfortunate circumstances, Colten paid the ultimate price, due to his own, and his friends, poor choices. Agreeing with the verdict, doesn't make me a racist. It makes me a realist. The economy has been in the shitter for the last what, 3 years? 4 years? And in that same amount of time, the crime rate has spiked substantially, especially rural crime. Look at it locally, when those 3 women were killed after being T-Boned by a vehicle that was stolen in town, and then went to a rural area, cased out some places, and then was reported and chased from a rural area home. These criminals know that the response time for police to get to a rural area, is astronomical, and they're using that to their advantage. And if they do get caught, they get a slap on the wrist. Steal a truck and wreck it? Pfft, 3 months in jail and probation. You've learned your lesson, now don't do it again young man! People are getting fed up. They're getting fed up with their vehicles getting stolen. They're getting fed up with their houses being broken into. They're getting fed up with criminals. And that's what Colten and his friends decided to do that day. Be criminals. Now, have you noticed that not once, have I mentioned race? That's because race doesn't matter in a case like this. What matters are actions. To Quote Sir Isaac Newton, "To every action there is always an equal and opposite or contrary, reaction." Now, he was talking about Physics in that general statement, but the meaning is the same, I feel for this situation. And the actions carried out by Colten and his friends, resulted in an opposite reaction, in the form of a man defending his property, and his family. The ones playing the race card, are also playing the victim card. "If Colten was white, and Stanley was Native, he'd be in jail." No. He wouldn't. If the cards played the same, but the races were reversed, It would have played out very similar. THIS. WAS. NEVER. ABOUT. RACE. THIS. WAS. ALWAYS. ABOUT. CRIME. "Why weren't there any indigenous people on the jury?" I actually have an answer for this one. There were WELL over 100 people interviewed for possible Jury Duty for this case. I had a couple friends that were summoned for Jury Duty. And they both told me the same thing. Now, quick run down about Jury Duty. You have to be impartial. You cannot side with either party, you have to rely solely on the facts presented to the argument. Both of my friends said the same thing. During the interview process, while in the waiting area, EVERY indigenous person present, were talking to each other, and saying how they wanted to hang Stanley. That's not impartial. (And it's not something you openly talk about, when officers are all around you, relaying that information to the lawyers and judge.) (Follow up, neither of my friends were selected for Jury Duty, as they felt that they'd be partial to siding with Stanley. Good on them for the honesty.) Is it sad what happened? Yes, Absolutely. No family should experience a loss like this. Is it Stanley's fault it happened? No, absolutely not. Stanley didn't invite them onto his farm. He didn't tell them to steal his stuff. He didn't say they could have his ATV. He didn't provide them with the alcohol that made their B.A.C. 3+ times the legal limit. Stanley was protecting himself, his family, and his property, from the threat of some criminals. End of Story.
play stupid games ,win stupid prizes
Jake The MUSS THANK YOU
//XANWOLF .FLOWXAN the media made it all about race.it is about guilty or not guilty.the jury could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt.And the jury selection are not conducted like tribal elections where the more people you have in your favour ensures your chance of election.
The media didn't make it about race Colton's mom and red pheasant chief as well as belguard made it about race
Armed robbery sometimes has undesirable consequences. It's just too bad some people have to learn the hard way.
Very sad case all around. The facts coming out in trial however, paint Colten and his friends in a very poor light. They spent the MORNING and rest of the day drinking all day, shooting ducks from the vehicle (illegal) drinking and driving (illegal) breaking into vehicles (illegal) and finally trying to steal a truck and a quad at the farm Colten was shot at. One of the people in the vehicle had a firearms prohibition, several had criminal records.
Their lies have caught up with them once already, and once forensics reveals what really happened it's going to be game over for everyone wanting a conviction. Much like the michael brown case we will find those who act like psychopaths who think they can do as they please.... they meet their demise eventually. The only thing worse than having a cop testify against you is the fact that only the shooter is a valid witness to the shooting and he won't have to take the stand. 4 drunk witness all caught lying once, and soon to be caught lying undoubtedly about the events of that incident will be the only reason justice will be served. If you mislead the system with lies, you pay that price. Had the farmer not acted like that the bigger question of the day would be "who would be next" if they actually got away???
While I agree to a point . . . there also has to come a point when we accept that most of said "painting" and "poor light" . . . was provided by the litany of poor choices the adults in the vehicle freely and repeatedly made. The farmer that shot him was just the "final observer" of the work; trying to assess what this painting was about in the exceedingly poor light its creators provided.
I have a great respect for what the Native Peoples once were. And it pains me to speak this truth, knowing that it will cause discomfort. or even accusation of "racial hatred".
But the reality is that the outcome would have likely been similar if the apparent criminal invaders of this man's private property were white, red, green, black or purple. We have more than out-grown the phase where society is expected to allow "special dispensation" (or exemption from the consequences of one's actions), simply because of someone's racial history.
The farmer's "accident" was excused by the actions that led up to that point yes.
The sad reality of this situation is that the driver if he wasn't sleeping at the wheel or passed out that he could have just as easily been armed and posed a threat to the farmer anyway. In this case accidental or not there is no reason to convict on any basis whatsoever. The fact that witness lies were taken seriously, etc. Is the actual racism here.
A thought. About the difference between a reason, and an excuse.
An excuse is what everyone is looking for, because it gets you off scott-free. No consequence. Nothing to learn. No growth.
Now try to exercise this as the "accident was reasonable, given the actions that led up to this point.".
It leaves opening for both the society, the deceased man's community, AND the farmer to keep the learning process going. Nobody retreats into the delusion of "I am totally right, totally excused, totally beyond reproach . . . and therefore left with nothing to re-examine in my own life and possibly learn from".
The premise of their presence on Gerald Stanley's farm was criminal in nature. The driver of the vehicle was under a driving prohibition while driving around drunk on not just a flat tire but a completely destroyed tire. Anyone who saw something like that drive up your driveway in plain daylight hours... should consider that to not just be a threat but a significant and higher level threat. The level of this threat was only evidenced by the driver crashing into a parked vehicle while being in possession of a firearm while they were in the process of committing a crime.
At the end of the day - there certainly are reasons to justify the farmer's actions. Is there any excuse for 5 drunk people to commit crimes and bear witness to an accident? No, there isn't a really good excuse for what they were doing that day and those other 4 people paid the price for being accessories to the crimes they were committing. If they'll willingly be passengers in a vehicle with a prohibited driver - there is little to no excuse that level of morality.
As much as people want to pull the racist card, perhaps they should take a good hard look in the mirror and apply that same standard of racial scrutiny to the people in the vehicle. Why didn't they steal from their own community? Did they steal from their own community? Their former Cheif of the Red Pheasant First Nation was found driving while prohibited, where is their negative influence coming from that condones or promotes the idea that committing these kinds of crimes is in any way acceptable? If they had better influences in their own life I am going to assert that this instance of a farmer reacting due to a high presence of "issues" on their own society probably wouldn't ever occur in the first place. At this point we are _FAR BEYOND_ the idea of "excuses" and seeking _SOLUTIONS_ as to why 20-something yeard old native adults were committing acts of crime as if it were "normal" enough to defend with a crowd of people.... if you re-examine the situation, shifting the blame to the defending party ..... is not only delusional and counter productive but blatantly RACIST.
Colton Boushie was armed,drunk and trying to rob the farmer.But aboriginals ignore that fact that boushie was a thug,and want to call him a victim....The tragedy here is that the farmer is now being treated as the villain.Boushie got his justice,but native "leaders" will now use his death to further their political goals.Interesting that this guy talking about justice is dressed like a gang member.
rebecca you dumb bitch,the guy has to pay legal bills that would not exist but for the criminal activity of your scumbag pal,Colton Boushie.Instead of playing the victim card all your welfare subsidized life,try a job for a change.You would be amazed at how much more "respect" the "system" will have for you once you stop sponging off it....
I am sick of this. His death was a trsgedy nut to stand outside court and say it was cold blooded murder by a white farmer is ridiculous. Stanley is also a victim here. Noone, especially the First Nations peopleb want to admit he was engaged in criminal activities at the time of his deathn that he was a threat to the Stanley family and their property which he was on illegally at the time. Noone except neighbouring farmers will publicize the criminal activities that are being committed in relation to their property on a regular basis with little or no help from the legal system to resolve their fears. The RCMP have little cooperation within the First Nations, especially on the reserves and the First Nations Police are handicapped by politics, nepotism and relationships within the reserve.
As politically incorrect as it is to say so, the natives have to learn respect for people and property. Without that as a starting point, there will be no common ground for the healing to start.
If Colton Boushie was working that day rather than being drunk and stupid he would still be alive
Yup like everyone else that works lol but say that we're rasicst like ok and you lack common sense lol
The title is very misleading. It should read "teenager gets killed while on a stealing spree" by reading the misleading title you would think the farmer did something wrong until you realize that the teenager and his friends brought a gun to the farm and almost ran over the farmer's son. And there is no reason to mention race in the title because this should never been an issue about race.
This video is about racism but Elsie is racist herself. At 4:14 by identifying the "White farmer"and that "white people have a law and (native... for a better term rather than Indian people) have a different law". She could have made her points by leaving racial identification out.
Armed robbery is a dangerous game and sometimes poor choices catch up with people. If it had been two First Nations on a reserve we would not even be hearing about this... this story is more about race than the young man's life. "There is one law for white people one law for Indian people, that's got to change man" I think a majority of white people would agree whole heartedly with that statement.
wheelzwheela No they don't. Sadly these young ADULTS Chose to drink and break the law all day! They chose to goonto that farm with criminal intent!Sadly this farmer chose to protect his family and his propertyand a young man lost his life! First nations are not misrepresented in the media! They are portrayed how THEY chose to behave! It turned out the way it did. because these young adults chose to act with criminal intent that day!! Cannot blame that on race!! Justice hasbeen served!!Maybe the native leaders should now focus On combating the choices their young people are choosing!! Cannot stand the wailing and drummg at the end!!
Unfortunately, this is exactly so. A socio-political agenda is dancing on this young man's grave. We should come together to celebrate the good; and to learn lessons from the bad and apply both as a memorial to him.
I agree whole-heartedly with the assertion that we need to cease having one set of laws for Native peoples and another for Whites. This same outcome was entirely feasible if the out-numbering group found in the apparent commission of a crime were white, red, black, purple or polka-dotted: Armenian or Argentinian.
There comes a point when trying to ride the victimhood bandwagon of "racial hatred against us" itself becomes the harbinger of great racial disrespect (if not downright hatred) in suggesting Native people need/deserve exclusion from the consequences of their own poor choice over the rest of us, simply because of their race -- or what happened to its ancestors.
wheelzwheela Yeah apparently First Nations people who break crimes including RAPING CHILDREN are given way less sentences because they’re “first nations and had a bad childhood.” They’re also sent to HEALING LODGES for a few months no punishment.
That has to change.
ASAP.
For crimes and associated aftermath that plays out totally within their community, they should be respectfully allowed to exercise their traditions and see where it takes their culture.
But ones that cross over into the other culture inhabiting these lands, special treatment should not be expected just because of things that came before.
How does Elsie know he was shot down in cold blood? Is the trial over? Why does she mention the farmer's race?
Dwayne Johnson trial just started a couple of days ago and I don’t actually think it had anything to do with race...everyone else is just making it sound like that. Guess we’ll see how things go. I feel for both families truthfully.
It turns out he was NOT shot down in cold blood.
They need to lock the 3 trespassers up for life. In america anytime a trespassing robbery result in a death it is automatically life in prison.
Vahaki Walahu they got immunity for taking the stand in trial. In which 2 of them admitted after to lying on the stand and in the initial investigation reports.
That was scary when someone was on the loose with a gun and we had to shut the lights off and hide and be quiet
No matter what your ethnic background is, if everyone lived by this quote, this incident wouldn't have happened: “I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.”― John Wayne It doesn't take a high IQ to treat people and their property the way you would like in return. People who continue to commit crimes upon others and their property, have to pay the piper and may not like the tune being played. Criminals are taking a risk when they choose their victims as in the Stanley case. Imagine the robber who attempts to steal someones wallet at knife point. That victim may just be someone who can fight, who knocks the knife from the robber, the proceeds to knock his/her head off. The old saying "buyer beware" rings true: beware of the trouble you choose to buy, because you may not like the purchase, and there aren't any refunds.
I appreciate hearing what Colton's brother had to say.
It has to be so hard to be in his position. Both brothers spoke really well.
Thank you for your words.
Your brother fucked up there. He didn't deserve to die.
I'm a white man and I've done some crazy, stupid, harmful shit. I am really glad I was not shot for some of the stuff I did. I don't doubt that Colton was a good kid. My heart goes out to you.
My heart goes out to Gerald too. I think he did the wrong thing but yeah he was put in a bad situation that he dealt with all wrong. Now he is paying for it. Please Gerald, reach out to the folks on the reserve and do what you can to make amends. Reconciliation is certainly needed here.
It looks to me like both parties here have major work to do to achieve reconciliation.
Could have avoided the whole trial if Gerald would have had signs posted
Private gun club
enter at own risk.
We have reached a bizarre place where all of these people doing stupid, ill-advised, questionable or stupid stuff become "victims" when a consequence of the actions THEY set in motion results in a tragic consequence. We're treating everyone like they're children, with no notion of responsibility and accountability. And even more bizarre . . . is the notion that judicial realities need to change just because a certain race or sex is involved.
You start your day with drinking. Take a bunch of your buddies out driving (likely a crime there). Trespass on someone's property (crime there). One or several people get out and start messing with stuff that isn't their's (another crime). Give very real indication that one's private property is being overrun with possibly intoxicated people up to criminal intent. At that point the set of possible consequences set forth by a litany of foolish choices probably wouldn't have differed if they were white, black, red or purple.
I am sorry to say that the Native position here is just untenable. He didn't "accidentally" call for a gun or point it at them. Whether it "accidentally" went off (one possible criminal act) has become a total distraction that these young adults had embarked on a day of stupid, foolish, ill-advised and quite likely criminal acts. Yes, perhaps "low level" criminal acts. Perhaps fueled by alcohol and exacerbated by poor judgement.
But is the position that young adults are "entitled" to a different set of judicial rules just because they are of a certain race?? And that "justice" is only served . . . when you are treated like children??
The Simple fact This young mans family, Tribe won't own the situation, that Colten and his buddies actions lead to his own death. Period, end of story! this was not about race as much as they and our weak Feminist PM think. BTW your brother had a gun in the vehicle he was in when out causing trouble, what was he doing with it? When you come onto land that is not yours, in a threatening manner (not selling girl guides...) you must understand the actions of the attacked party may end your life. That is the undue risk u take when you are in the WRONG! Period.
Guess you won't be stealing anymore ATVs?
Shoot first and ask questions later stop trespassing and stealing what’s not yours I have no sympathy for crooks no matter what race you are!!!!
They weren't trespassing they pulled up to the house looking for help because of a flat tire
Wow look at the band wagon. Here comes the HUGE tax payer payout.
Colton's brother made more sense than all the other racists (yes, i mean that) combined in this totally bigoted, biased video.
One justice system for white and on for natives. I completely agree. Many times there are instances of natives getting lesser sentences because of their race. I.E. the native rcmp who got a lesser sentence when he lied about the taser death of the old man at the Vancouver airport.
Why does Jace say Murder is murder? Was the farmer convicted already?
Dwayne Johnson IF native lives matter so much to them then they need to teach their young adults' not to be criminals and keep them away from alcohol!! Tired of them trying to make him out to be some good"boy". They had a fair trial and justice has been carried out!!
Rebecca Pel where are you from?
My ancestors? What do my ancestors have to do with this? You don't even know what part of the world I am from.
Rebecca P healing is not bought with billions of dollars! Healing happens when they decide to stop being eternal victims who are owed everything!! Healimg happens when they stop their communities from being alcoholics and druggies and teach them how to be responsible parents! Healing happens when they get educations and go to college and become productive members of society! Healing begins within themselves not blaming wvwryone else for their self inflicted woes!
At 7:09, Sandi says Debbie doesn't know what happened. That will come out at trial. But like Sandi, I hope some healing can come out of this. What relation is Lester Nicotine to Serena Nicotine? Why does the title say "First Nations boy"? He was 22 years old! Is that still a boy in Canada??
So many questions!!
Dwayne Johnson LOL!!! No, 22 is technically an adult everywhere...including Canada :)
He was a grown ass man leader of Indian posse got killed during a robbery attempt so be it
Lol Jace looks like gangster
Muskitigum yep Indian posse member
Yo indigenous people already get special privileges apparently for many indigenous people who have gone to jail get to go to a special jail a “healing sweat lodge.”
There was a case (yes in Canada.) where a indigenous man raped a 10 year old CHILD and got sent to this joke of a jail for like less than a year (couple months.) And escaped and had no repercussions.
As of this case? Yeah okay your brother had a gun too and his wife got beaten up so.
The jury wasn’t racist just because they were white get over it.
It was an accident justice was served
Justice.
Jace...words of wisdom. Peace.
Lynda C-H he's just as dumb as Colton
@@thefreaksterlololololol6633With a mommy like Debbie no shock
Words of a gang member lol
Go get a job you bums
Only reason the protesters are there because they were promised bingo money from the chief if they perticipate lololol
The kids screwed up yes, but the farmer did commit a crime. The farmer should have gotten some jail time. You cant justify murder, if that was the case, nobody would get charged. Did he feel threatened? Yes, does it justify pulling out a firearm and a killing? No . Property isnt worth death. Gerald stanley put his own family in danger as well. Call the cops, you take law into own hands, this is what happens.
da melchior it wasn't only about property. Boushie and his friends brought a gun to the farm and from the reckless driving they almost ran over the son. If an unidentified person break and enters a house but is shot. The home owner isn't going to get charged. This isn't that different. And had he did nothing and called police it would take longer than 15 minutes to reach a rural area. By that time the farmer or his family could have been killed either by the gun that the kids brought or by the vehicle. I'm not saying any situation means shoot on site but Boushie and his friends did give the farmer enough reason to pull the trigger and defend himself and his family.
My property is worth death