G'day, I've just decided to get into Warhammer 40k. My only experience is admiring friends armies and playing soulstorm on pc many years ago. I spoke to the guys at the local games store and they said wait for 10th edition to get started. Same reason you said, big changes to all armies. I'll be building Orks and neurons. So I have found this video and review very helpful. Thank you
@@sirmoth3955 sadly, Ghost Ark only can take 10 warriors plus 1 character. so Royal warden is my choice for this "Adaptive Strategy: While this model is leading a unit, ranged weapons equipped by models in that unit have the [HEAVY] and [ASSAULT] abilities.". While Chronomancer "Chronometron: In your Shooting phase, after this model’s unit has shot, if it is not within Engagement Range of any enemy units, that unit can make a Normal move of up to 5" as if it were your Movement phase. If it does, until the end of the turn, that unit is not eligible to declare a charge." is good for max number Warriors
Warriors 4+ to hit. Add warden, 3+ to hit Warden adds HEAVY... 2+ to hit.... 20 man blob with an arc or even just a Reanimator nearby. Get a lord on barge for the tasty Rez orb.
@@beatooze8025 I don't think that works sorry. Warriors can be improved to 3+ to hit at best. From Munitorum Field Manual version 1.0: 'Some dice rolls can never be modified by more than -1 or +1 (e.g. Hit rolls). In such cases, after all the cumulative modifiers to a roll have been calculated, if the total modifier would be -2 or worse, it is changed to -1. Similarly, after all the cumulative modifiers to a roll have been calculated, if the total modifier would be +2 or better, it is changed to +1.'
@@beatooze8025 if youre not taking a technomancer, why not just take immortals? 10 immortals with a technomancer are going to attack better and be far tougher than 20 warriors without a technomancer. warriors are really only worth it with a technomancer IMO because they die far too fast without it.
Thank you so much for being so positive! I’m seeing so much complaining these days about the new edition; it’s nice to see some guys who are excited to play.
To be fair, a major component of what upsets people is that to push sales, GW consistently tends to make what was good bad and what was bad good when they release new editions. If you do not have a large army to select from, that could be frustrating for those who had a well tuned and competitive army that is now unplayable (competitively speaking).
It's great to see people excited for necrons. I played a game today with 10th rules as the points just dropped, and I gotta say they feel great. Reanimation isn't as busty as it looks on paper if you don't have the right set up, but it's still amazing and better than 9th!!! Can't wait to see some 10th edition Necron games on here.
Yes! Thank you for the Necron review. I'm a big Necron fan and started painting and playing during 8th edition. I lost interest in the game after a while but now I'm getting excited! Let's wake em up again y'all!
I'm glad to see someone hyped for Necrons. I was feeling a little underwhelmed with the datasheets, so it feels good seeing someone be like, no our boys are looking hawt 👌
Did you READ that index!??!? Szeras Canoptek reanimator Overlord Blocks upon blocks of warriors Can revive like 10-15 warriors per COMMAND PHASE. Not just yours
I built a combat patrol of Necrons couple months ago. I'm gonna have to fatten that set up now. Necrons sound SO GOOD. But to fair. Everything sounds awesome so far. 10th has be STOKED!!
7 days late, but 20 man blobs of necron warriors can be a real road block with the reanimator, resurrection orb, and ghost ark. I had them tanking meganobs with dual saws and survived for 2 rounds before he dedicated other units to killing them.
Do they have someone to cover Aeldari in 10th ? They have to be the most under represented army since no one at Play On has Aeldari… typically just when they have a guest on the channel.
To answer the question of what I'm running- Imperial Fists, probably going to go minimal Primaris for tournament, and Necrons, but in the classic style- no Ophidians/Skorpekhs.
Question - if I use the self destruct ability for a scar a unit in combat with 5 enemy models, will that do X mortal wounds to one of those enemy models, or X damage to the unit as a whole
Besides grot guns and kill saws what do you think orks best solution for really heavy armor is? Seems like orks will have trouble hitting a lot of the new toughness values
speaking of Meganobs with leaders, Big Mek in Mega Armor. Give it the forcefield and the entire unit gets 4+ invul against shooting, reroll 1s in shooting, and in your command phase can return one destroyed bodyguard model to the field. Just a shame for people who don't want to use Beast Snaggas that they seem to have ousted out every other anti-armor options. (I'm doing Mad Max Evil Sunz... high octane speed freaks and trukks full of boys don't really mix with primitives and lumbering beasts)
@@JimJones-ur3elyour and Michael's game on Play On is my favorite game so far on the channel! Can't wait to see your Orks and his Necrons! Battlewagons go brrrrr! Doomsday Ark go Bahoom!
I will still e playing my Emperor's Children, but adding a Knight Despoiler to it and maybe some daemons. I love how chaos armies can be like ooh I want one of those and one of those now.
I with Ork Boyz had a max model count per unit of 30. Because in my opinion 20 Boyz per unit is not enough. AND also I wish Gretchins were Battleline too.
I feel like I really lucked out with Necrons in 10th. For a long while now my hobby was buying the Noble Characters and kitbashing them into being more presentable- trying to replace Finecast with Plastic. And now rather than the Dynasties separating the Epic Heroes, you're incentivized to brink multiple characters together. I think all I really need to round out a 2000pts army is another box of Immortals and maybe a Canoptek Reanimator...
Just played a test game, Lost the game but bro COULD NOT kill my block of warriors or my immortals, felt really good. There are some fun combos you can do between characters and units too, the favorite of mine was Tesla immortals + plasmancer + royal warden. Tesla immortals hit on 3+, have sustained hits 2 and reroll wound rolls of 1, the plasmancer let's a unit score critical hits on 5+ instead of 6's, and royal wardens grant the unit heavy so I was proccing my sustained hits 2 on 4+ by the end of it, rerolling wounds of 1. Absolutely obliterated a keeper of secrets (granted my opponent had some terrible save and fnp rolls)
I'm thrilled for the new orcs but I'm still dreading everybody trying to blow up the Battlewagon. I'd love to toss him in a Stompa instead but at 800 points that is a big chunk of your army points used up.
One problem with Tau/Ork alliance, the Tau tried by giving them guns and, what not. The the Orks took the Tau guns and proceeded to beat the ever living ******* out of them, so now they’re on the Tau’s “soot first ask questions later,” list.
Hey guys, got one for you Necron players. Transcend C'tan, look close. Not an epic hero but also no reanimation. It can take enhancements. 4+ FNP C'tan!
I can't WAIT for combat patrol rules. Honestly GW seems to do it's best balancing and play testing at the 750-1500(ish) level and that makes me super excited for the combat patrol mode!
Most of ninth I spent building up and painting my now nearly 4,500 pts of necrons (according to battlescribe 9th edition rules) and I am so freaking excited to finally play some games with my beloved Zemenatep Dynasty and wipe out my boyfriends Nids, Squats, and/or his Thousand Sons
8:45 - No. Not cool, it makes for a really bad experience facing it. Saw a game, felt horrific to see it happen over and over again. 9th intro cinematic would never get past the church because that one would just get back and charge again, again, ad inifinitum. If that shit isn't nerfed into the ground, ruff ruff...
Have to disagree with you - It's the Necron 'Thing' - The flavor of the army that makes Necron's what they are! If you are unprepared for it, or don't understand the significance of focusing down a unit, I can understand the feels badsies.. but thats something you will have to adjust for and work towards focusing down units with your chosen army.
I absolutely love seeing Michael so excited as he discusses Necrons. I cannot wait to watch some 10th edition Necron games.
Thanks for covering Necrons. They're the main faction I play in battlesector.
Same, me and my friend have been playing battlesector together and I've been winning 8-2 because of my boyz
PlayStation?
@@taylorzinser5689 nah, xbox
Does this game have crossplay?
@@Malod1997 I don't think so
Seeing Michael so excited for Necrons makes me want to break out my old army again.
As someone painting up Nihilakh Dynasty necrons... I would love to see a painting tutorial on how Michael painted his army. They are gorgeous!
I picked up 3 boxes of lychguard today. They went down essentially 6 points a model. Its crazy.
Looking forward to the rest of this series. Great work as always, guys!
G'day, I've just decided to get into Warhammer 40k. My only experience is admiring friends armies and playing soulstorm on pc many years ago. I spoke to the guys at the local games store and they said wait for 10th edition to get started. Same reason you said, big changes to all armies. I'll be building Orks and neurons. So I have found this video and review very helpful. Thank you
For necrons, Royal wardens + Necron Warriors with gauss reaper + Ghost ark will be the Drive-by strike team
And you can add in a Chronomancer for even more *speed*
@@sirmoth3955 sadly, Ghost Ark only can take 10 warriors plus 1 character. so Royal warden is my choice for this "Adaptive Strategy: While this model is leading a unit, ranged
weapons equipped by models in that unit have the [HEAVY]
and [ASSAULT] abilities.". While Chronomancer "Chronometron: In your Shooting phase, after this model’s unit
has shot, if it is not within Engagement Range of any enemy
units, that unit can make a Normal move of up to 5" as if it
were your Movement phase. If it does, until the end of the
turn, that unit is not eligible to declare a charge." is good for max number Warriors
Warriors 4+ to hit.
Add warden, 3+ to hit
Warden adds HEAVY... 2+ to hit.... 20 man blob with an arc or even just a Reanimator nearby. Get a lord on barge for the tasty Rez orb.
@@beatooze8025 I don't think that works sorry. Warriors can be improved to 3+ to hit at best.
From Munitorum Field Manual version 1.0:
'Some dice rolls can never be modified by more than -1 or +1 (e.g.
Hit rolls). In such cases, after all the cumulative modifiers to a roll
have been calculated, if the total modifier would be -2 or worse, it is
changed to -1. Similarly, after all the cumulative modifiers to a roll
have been calculated, if the total modifier would be +2 or better, it is
changed to +1.'
@@beatooze8025 if youre not taking a technomancer, why not just take immortals? 10 immortals with a technomancer are going to attack better and be far tougher than 20 warriors without a technomancer. warriors are really only worth it with a technomancer IMO because they die far too fast without it.
We need a painting tutorial for those Nihilak Necrons !! They’re gorgeous 🙏
Thank you so much for being so positive! I’m seeing so much complaining these days about the new edition; it’s nice to see some guys who are excited to play.
To be fair, a major component of what upsets people is that to push sales, GW consistently tends to make what was good bad and what was bad good when they release new editions. If you do not have a large army to select from, that could be frustrating for those who had a well tuned and competitive army that is now unplayable (competitively speaking).
Hence why my logic is have one of everything
Didn't see James on channel for a while.
I miss a good WAAAAAAAAAGH.
WHAAAAAAGH
We need a 10-hours version of "You do X - I'm bringing guys back" and "...on his turn - aaaand my turn".
Always great to hear! You have such a wide variety of folks who play different armies so it's awesome to get genuine impressions
It's great to see people excited for necrons. I played a game today with 10th rules as the points just dropped, and I gotta say they feel great. Reanimation isn't as busty as it looks on paper if you don't have the right set up, but it's still amazing and better than 9th!!! Can't wait to see some 10th edition Necron games on here.
I listed out a 1000pt Necron army, it will just take time for me to get it all together but that is what I plan on playing in 10th.
Stoked to see Mr Initiative back on the channel 😊
Thanks😊
Yes! Thank you for the Necron review. I'm a big Necron fan and started painting and playing during 8th edition. I lost interest in the game after a while but now I'm getting excited! Let's wake em up again y'all!
I'm glad to see someone hyped for Necrons. I was feeling a little underwhelmed with the datasheets, so it feels good seeing someone be like, no our boys are looking hawt 👌
I mean... Necrons are right now the most OP faction... Did you even read their index? Lol
*Shatters drink glass in hand in Death Guard*
Did you READ that index!??!?
Szeras
Canoptek reanimator
Overlord
Blocks upon blocks of warriors
Can revive like 10-15 warriors per COMMAND PHASE. Not just yours
Are you kidding Necrons are incredibly over powered 😂😂
Cant wait for all these first impressions to be done. Want to see the impression on Sisters
It's cool the Necron auras stack
Soooo cooooool!!!
My two favourite armies, my two favourite guests. Solid video.
Amen
Necrons feel like its going to play very well in this edition :-)
I would love to see an eight-man, four teams, tournament.
As someone who plays alot against orks, aaand kinda sometimes borrows them to play as them this ought to be real helpfull.
You are the reason i play necron that certain way
I built a combat patrol of Necrons couple months ago. I'm gonna have to fatten that set up now. Necrons sound SO GOOD. But to fair. Everything sounds awesome so far. 10th has be STOKED!!
Wow, that is some paint job on Ghaz, that model is beautiful
I'm hyped for necron matches in the future
7 days late, but 20 man blobs of necron warriors can be a real road block with the reanimator, resurrection orb, and ghost ark. I had them tanking meganobs with dual saws and survived for 2 rounds before he dedicated other units to killing them.
exactly what they should be doing! Im willing to bet they didnt do much in return to those meganobs tho!
I’m super excited to see the new and improved Wattson in 10th!
I cant wait to see my green boyz destroy the table with waughriffic mushroom power!
Woot, Doomstalkers are a thing! Now I can built out my Canoptek heavy list...
I'd love to see play on have Bricky on the show
It would be cool to see his night lords or sisters of battle army in action here
Great video! 1 question: where can I find the core abilities, such as deadly demise on the canoptek spyder?
Check out warhammer communty for all the rules!
They can be found in the 10th edition Core Rules available online from GW.
Thank you for another great video!
I loved these series (10th edition update videos) should have its own playlist on your channel
Do they have someone to cover Aeldari in 10th ? They have to be the most under represented army since no one at Play On has Aeldari… typically just when they have a guest on the channel.
I'm sure JT will at some point, he runs Drukhari and also Nick has played them once or twice.
Cannot wait for orks vs necrons. Loads of orks getting stuck in vs the foe that doesn't die.
Love your videos! I am a little new to the game and play necrons so this video was super helpfull
I love this 10th ed faction capsules! Keep em coming!
To answer the question of what I'm running- Imperial Fists, probably going to go minimal Primaris for tournament, and Necrons, but in the classic style- no Ophidians/Skorpekhs.
Finally a use for those 2-3 Royal Wardens that every Necron player seems to have lying around somewhere.
Question - if I use the self destruct ability for a scar a unit in combat with 5 enemy models, will that do X mortal wounds to one of those enemy models, or X damage to the unit as a whole
10 points for the Maiden shirt! Up the Irons! (and Necrons! lol)
Yes, going to see Maiden in orktober
Besides grot guns and kill saws what do you think orks best solution for really heavy armor is? Seems like orks will have trouble hitting a lot of the new toughness values
Orks looking good, Necron are looking great
James is my hero. Iron Maiden t shirt 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks, going to see them in October
You can also put Ghazghkull in a Stompa now
a buddy is giving me his combat patrol of orks and i'm super excited to try em out with 10th
speaking of Meganobs with leaders, Big Mek in Mega Armor. Give it the forcefield and the entire unit gets 4+ invul against shooting, reroll 1s in shooting, and in your command phase can return one destroyed bodyguard model to the field.
Just a shame for people who don't want to use Beast Snaggas that they seem to have ousted out every other anti-armor options. (I'm doing Mad Max Evil Sunz... high octane speed freaks and trukks full of boys don't really mix with primitives and lumbering beasts)
Orks and Iron Maiden !!!
🤘🤘🤘
WHAAAAAAGH
@@JimJones-ur3elyour and Michael's game on Play On is my favorite game so far on the channel! Can't wait to see your Orks and his Necrons! Battlewagons go brrrrr!
Doomsday Ark go Bahoom!
I probably won't get an answer on this, but can you share how you did colorscheme on the necrons. It looks fairly similar to mine, but so much better.
We don’t know! But we should ask michael to do a tutorial with us.
You should - my fees are very reasonable
Is it possible to do negative damage to necrons now?
It may feel like it!
@@michaelbuckthorp977 that would be hilarious u shoot a bolt pistol at some necrons and like 4 guys get back up
Surprised deciver was not mentioned with deathmarks to be a character killer.
C'tan look pretty damn useful too, deceiver redeploying *three* units? I could see that being really handy.
Can't wait to see votann
I will still e playing my Emperor's Children, but adding a Knight Despoiler to it and maybe some daemons. I love how chaos armies can be like ooh I want one of those and one of those now.
did you guys record this before the index dropped? Overlord's new My Will be Done is kinda insane, once per battle round 1 unit got a free stratagem
Same as space marines' Rites of War.
I with Ork Boyz had a max model count per unit of 30. Because in my opinion 20 Boyz per unit is not enough. AND also I wish Gretchins were Battleline too.
YES I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS
The closest thing I have to a finished army is necrons, sooo… cool that I was able to get two reanimators before the price went up though
Could you guys do a video like this for the ad mech? I’ve heard a lot of mixed feelings about it and I’d love to see what you guys think!
Been waiting for necrons
I feel like I really lucked out with Necrons in 10th.
For a long while now my hobby was buying the Noble Characters and kitbashing them into being more presentable- trying to replace Finecast with Plastic.
And now rather than the Dynasties separating the Epic Heroes, you're incentivized to brink multiple characters together.
I think all I really need to round out a 2000pts army is another box of Immortals and maybe a Canoptek Reanimator...
Where can I find the rules for Orks 10th edition?
Check out warhammer community.
Do necrons have any leadership buffs?
Yes! Overlords have a whooping leadership 4 - most characters have a healthy number as well to help keep your goobers in line.
SO EXCITED FOR 10TH EDITION, DARK ANGELS GANG
Good to know my Orks are still viable
Everybody loves hoard armies!!
I love the Watson buff
I mean strength 15 on the doomsday canon
Necrons look good and un killable
As it should be!!
@@michaelbuckthorp977 omg bro thank you for the reply! You’re awesome keep up the great work love your necrons play style.
Who else kinda has a crush on Michael…🙋♀️🫣
I was just thinking of this last night 😂
About what?
I need to see how Watson performs in 10th
What about votanns?)
5:12 Zoggin Goffs. No apprshiashun fu gud dakka.
Just played a test game, Lost the game but bro COULD NOT kill my block of warriors or my immortals, felt really good. There are some fun combos you can do between characters and units too, the favorite of mine was Tesla immortals + plasmancer + royal warden. Tesla immortals hit on 3+, have sustained hits 2 and reroll wound rolls of 1, the plasmancer let's a unit score critical hits on 5+ instead of 6's, and royal wardens grant the unit heavy so I was proccing my sustained hits 2 on 4+ by the end of it, rerolling wounds of 1. Absolutely obliterated a keeper of secrets (granted my opponent had some terrible save and fnp rolls)
Yeah!!
Drukhari first impressions with jt?
I’m not to sure about those overlapping auras for Necrons. They’ve already iterated that when you have overlap, you pick one, you don’t get both
That's if it's two of the same aura. There's nothing stopping a warrior squad from getting buffed by both the silent king and a reanimator.
I'm thrilled for the new orcs but I'm still dreading everybody trying to blow up the Battlewagon. I'd love to toss him in a Stompa instead but at 800 points that is a big chunk of your army points used up.
I am so sad with dreads losing mob. They are single models now and I can't bring a bunch now :(
One problem with Tau/Ork alliance, the Tau tried by giving them guns and, what not. The the Orks took the Tau guns and proceeded to beat the ever living ******* out of them, so now they’re on the Tau’s “soot first ask questions later,” list.
I'm thinking of putting a plasmancer in a 10 man unit of Immortals with tesla carbines so they get lethal hits on 5s /kefka laugh
Add in crytothrulls to give the mancer 4+FNP.
Chunk in a lord for Rez orb
Enhance with the veil of darkness.
On, and on, and on.
Or put Anrakyr for better wound rolls
Hey guys, got one for you Necron players.
Transcend C'tan, look close.
Not an epic hero but also no reanimation.
It can take enhancements. 4+ FNP C'tan!
What do you get with a res orb again 😂
It allows reanimation protocol to be used during the opponents' command phase
A fellow necron player, man I'm so excited for 10th I can't wait to murder everyone and never die
I can't WAIT for combat patrol rules.
Honestly GW seems to do it's best balancing and play testing at the 750-1500(ish) level and that makes me super excited for the combat patrol mode!
I’m just excited to use my Squiggbuggy Kommandos without them getting shot off the board turn 1.
Most of ninth I spent building up and painting my now nearly 4,500 pts of necrons (according to battlescribe 9th edition rules) and I am so freaking excited to finally play some games with my beloved Zemenatep Dynasty and wipe out my boyfriends Nids, Squats, and/or his Thousand Sons
Glory to the Zemanatep dynasty!
My biggest concern is Necrons is going to be too good,. great index and cheap units. I think we will see a nerf coming in the near future.
"Orks points Look good." Kekw.jpg
The annoying thing with GW is you can only get certain units in their $200 royal court bundle
Little Ork Lore.. they bleed Red blood so says the 3rd edition codex
I can't wait to beat up some necrons in the name of Macragge. Orks too I geuss.
8:45 - No. Not cool, it makes for a really bad experience facing it. Saw a game, felt horrific to see it happen over and over again. 9th intro cinematic would never get past the church because that one would just get back and charge again, again, ad inifinitum. If that shit isn't nerfed into the ground, ruff ruff...
Have to disagree with you - It's the Necron 'Thing' - The flavor of the army that makes Necron's what they are! If you are unprepared for it, or don't understand the significance of focusing down a unit, I can understand the feels badsies.. but thats something you will have to adjust for and work towards focusing down units with your chosen army.
Why are ncrons so broken
Oh noooooo.... Detachments are back from edition 7....
Nope. 10th edition Detachments take the place of 9th edition Subfactions.
Not a good sign that they haven't covered 10e admech :(
I do not like that they lowered how many boys and grots you get in a unit. From 30 boys to 20 boyz
No more Bad moons 😢
For now. Wait for the codex.