Our Mechanics Discover WHY Boat Batteries Failed AGAIN
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
- Our Mechanics discover why the boat batteries failed for the third time. After troubleshooting the battery issue we discovered why this keeps happening. What might be causing this issue is the question the owner has? ...
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We get lots of calls that require troubleshooting battery issues... we were so glad these weren't the 8D's like we were originally told before getting to the boat. The boat was leaving the next day so we didn't do the charger repair.
ok where are the battery balance boards at? u need them to balance the batteries.
Nigel Calder says lead acid don't die they are murdered. We used Trojan T-105 for 20 years had them hooked up to a common water manifold for watering. Made the switch to LiFePO4 last year and it is a game changer.
Thanks for sharing! 👍
I've spent a lot of time on cayo hueso. I can't believe there are people there who know what they are doing, and are willing to show up and do it.
We absolutely show up and get the job done …. Been here 11yrs! 👍
Do you own a DC clamp on ammeter?
Yes we do.
After 35 years of boating I’ve upgraded to all AGM batteries. Primary reason was to avoid having to check electrolyte levels in flooded batteries. I never had an issue and was always good about taking care of my batteries. As I get older I seem to need to reduce aggravation and maintenance where I can. Don’t ever see a need to go lithium for my level of usage. This is on a bass boat.
Good for you Kurt less maintenance is always a good thing on a boat!
This is exactly why so many people hire you guys!!
@@stephenscott963you rock Scott!
AGM batteries also can discharge faster, and a bit deeper, without damage. Wise choice.
Great troubleshooting episode! Thanks for sharing! 👍👍
We troubleshoot every day just got it recorded. 👍
@@WillFixThat 👍👍
AGM for starting, Lithium for house. Alternator to charge both AGM and Lithium and if lithium BMS shuts off battery Alternator still dumps power into AGM thereby not blowing diodes on alternator. Lithium are just not there yet for cranking batteries. They will get there. When they get there you would swap them out for the weight difference alone. Love your content, from Sydney Australia.
@snapper2784 Would you play it safe and wire the AGM and Lithium in parallel, or do you think they can be wired in series? Would love to pay a visit down there some day, especially during our winters 🙂
You can't put smart batteries and dumb batteries together
@@jdeshetlerII Someone should try that. I'll wait onshore with a pair of binoculars, though.
People don’t like the price of lithium much less AGM. They want the cheap lead acid. Then try to tell them they have to water them. LOL
Good old fashioned systematic troubleshooting will find the issue nearly every time ! Amazing variety of skills you have accumulated through all your years . It helps that you are in a market where you get to see pretty much everything that there is to see. I own a repair business that is trailer boats only and would have to hit the books again hard to survive in your world.
Matt amazes me every day with his skills! Being a troubleshooter is important working on boats! We always have complex jobs that these guys tackle every day.
Hmmm... I didn't see independent current verification. Beyond separating the two strings I saw no segmentation. No voltage drop across terminals...
Thank You we enjoyed the video
Thanks for watching Dale.
Great troubleshooting on the battery charger. And keep on with the great videos!
Thanks Capt. 🙏
I just hauled off six of those really expensive Odyssey 12 volt 200 ah 1300 cca gel batteries (the skinny tall ones) off a big sailboat, two of them are bulged out bad! In the middle of the night the crew awoke to smoke alarms, had to get the fire dept in. Seems the charger malfunctoned and was putting 27 volts to the 12 volt bank of house batteries. I now have six 132lb batteries to scrap, but I'm waiting for the price to go up, it's at five cents a lb now and I used to get 18. :)
Yikes 😳 you had some bad batteries we see it like that from time to time. The sleeping dangers of batteries…. We tell our customers check those batteries periodically.
Difficult to do when sleeping unless you have a roving watch.
Great diagnostics, but what are you going to do about leg 1? The video failed to say what was to be done.
The boat had to leave so they will get the charger replaced there.
Great job Guys!!
Thanks for watching & sharing James.
Love that Cuban coffee shop. Found it over New Years. Now order online. Actually will be in KW Friday May 31st. Maybe see u guys at Schooner Wharf.
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LOL you would never see us at Schooner … been there maybe 3x in 15 years. I go to Cuban Coffee Queen for the ice cubes. 😆
Above 11k subscribers! Nice job! 👍👍
Yup takes a bit of time …. 👍
@@WillFixThat 👍👍
great video
Thanks Tim hope you’re doing well! It’s summer here 😭
Hey buddy. I love you guys and lady….. gel…… but previous video. I keep seeing a carver mariner 350. In the videos . My former boat. I currently own a 1998 glacier bay 26 cuddy cabin… I don’t have ac equipment. Keep up the good work and videos. Love ya
Thanks for choosing to watch us manage our chaos. I’d like to hear more about selling the dream what does that look like to you?
@@WillFixThat OK. It's almost 2am but I'll give it a shot...... keep this channel going. 2nd youtube is partnership with the big brands and the local youtube (fishing) and (boat manufacturers) regarding new boats and adventures..... yes. It's you personally on the boat non fixing...... Its a question mark and its difficult to figureout......but having a channel on the adventures regardless on the endgame........full disclosure btw I'm drinking tonight But again.... I love your channel. Also. (No joke) I'm taking the 26 footer searching for gold. For me to make a channel about that is .... viewer wow. See....... much love. When I'm sober. Ill drive down from st augustine
@@anthonygrasso8620 LOL sounds like you had fun last night! I couldn't sleep so I started working. Searching for gold that sounds interesting. Come on down.
when i was working in the arctic., we had main site an were responsible for 3 remote sites east and 3 west. well these remote sites had 200 batteries for the house and 6 for each engine which were 4 of those, to load test them which was a requirement. night mare to isolate them over 400 nuts and bolts, and the chargers were straight from hell, the military changed the whole system 3 times while i was there and probably still changing things now, but was 20 years ago, and batteries and charging have come a long way since then
Sounds like a huge project.
Hey guys have a good weekend
Hey fatcat keep watching …. Got a surprise for you coming up! 😊
When it comes to this stuff I am 😮as dumb as a box of rocks. That is why a good tech is a a great thing to have on speed dial.
Yes speed dial for sure if you own a boat!
LiFePO3 is my preferred type; Stable & Longlived.
Thanks for sharing 👍
What are the best batteries? I’m on my 1st Boat, 1985 Trojan International 11m Sedan, 454 mercrusers.
IMO anything AGM no maintenance & less stress.
I did construction for years! Anyone can fix an issue! But a real mechanic will find the issue! I can fix the rot but let’s find why did it rot!!
You’re exactly right …. Let’s get to the root of the problem! They were here on vacation when we changed the batteries for the third time.
@@WillFixThat umm that’s like a 9k worth of battery services calls😂
@@codyswartz997yeah crazy no one troubleshot the issue sooner.
just pulled off an early to mid 90's pro mariner 50lb 35 amp charger. you could hear it hum 24/7 from the dock. i see lots of shitty charles chargers too. Good upsell to pull them out. I love seeing the fixed gel profile on those old things that have servicing FLA batteries for a decade. . "marinas" just keep selling batteries. duh.
My favorite chargers are NOCO if you can use them. They don’t fit all applications.
@@WillFixThat great chargers indeed, but stupid amount of packaging on their products and the durometer of their leads is wayyy too stiff; makes it hard to make a neat install. ive called them out on it before.
AGM typically. Greetings from my vacation spot in Ocean Harbor Islamorada!
Hi Paul are you there now cause it’s pretty hot!
@@WillFixThat just got the sea doo fueled up. Truck says 90 degrees after driving it a couple miles. I’m here until August to see if I can take the heat. I appreciate your content!
@@paulthompson1216you can take the heat by hiding inside 🤣 like the people do up north in the winter. Stay hydrated & be safe.
@@WillFixThat “Will” do!
Love my Lithium batteries. Last a long time. Super light also.
Being light is pretty nice 👍
Yeah, they are nice until the BMS fails and your boat blows up.
Lead carbon from victron
I bought 160ah
I like AGM batteries because they hold up better to the pounding experienced with boating, but I'd love to have LifePro's (Lithium) if I could afford them.
Yeah batteries are pricey and you should always change them out at the same time.
So what is connected to leg 1 and causing the issue?
Leg 1 lost its ability to sense the batteries. The charger will need to be replaced
@@WillFixThatwas wondering what the cure was too thanks
Mastervolt’s manual states to replace instantly with a Newmar
lol 😂
Interstate AGM 31M. Suckers cost me 450 a piece with my veteran discount. I have 4 of them. Ouch
Yup they a steep on the cost! But, less worry & no maintenance 👍
salt water based batteries. as u can use salt water as a electro lyte
Thanks for sharing.
An infrared video camera will instantly show temperature anomolies.
Thanks for the tip. I’ll have to ask Matt how often we would use it.
A hot terminal, a cold wire that should be warm.
Breaker panel hot spots.
Circuit board hot spots.
8D Vmax batteries are the heaviest of all. Bad news, I got a double hernia, good news it’s fix and probably won’t happen again LOL
We don’t let our guys to batteries alone … to dangerous because of the weight.
My vote. Sealed lead acid. Nice chemistries are cool and all but a single full depletion drain down kills even the best units. After the death drain, on borrowed time.
Exactly borrowing time until dead! 😵
AGM for me.
Agree Jeff.
AGM’s or Sealed (non vented) for starting batteries. Lifepo4 for house system IF it has a dedicated separate alternator AND lithium charger. You are right to hunt the cause of the problem the cooked the new batteries. You’re not a jerk out to make money.
We are just looking to help those that need our services! We aren’t looking for work we have plenty! Our google reviews show that 👍 we work hard!
Batteries never come fully charged,Because in storage its not good for the battery.they are normaly stored around 80%.
Thanks for the tip.
@@WillFixThat Also its normal for batteries to charge at 70 amps.How do you think they charge in a car or camper van.Its more about volts.ie car 14.7 from alternator slightly above 12.6.People can get confused because they see battery charger from mains saying 10 amps.You can buy bigger.but are very expencive.
Im an AGM person, lithium ion is still cost prohibitive but I don't know if I would put them in a boat, there to sketchy for a boat in my opinion. BYT enjoy your shows.
Thanks for watching Cliff …
So what’s the solution?…new charger?
Yes 👍
AGM batteries all the way!
We agree 👍
AGM for every thing I work on, I wont even talk about lead acid today
We aren’t interested in lead acid either because in no time they’ll be calling because they didn’t fill the batteries.
Actually, AGM's are lead acid battery technology. They use a different medium, however the internal resistance is exactly the same as lead acid, no difference because they are the same tech. Best advantage for AGM is that they are sealed and require no maintenance.
I'm confused. Am I watching a boat maintenance video or a Key West tourism video. Pick one.
Both are 2 small of niches so why not combine since so many people love both!
@@WillFixThat Because it was billed as a repair video. If it had been billed as a tourism video, I'd have skipped all together.
So much crap product circulating now. Registering product is more important than ever before.
As long as they get the registration card!
I'm sticking with lead acid. If a captain can't perform a simple preventive maintenance like cleaning battery post and adding water. Then shame on him.. Lead acid has many advantages include low-cost and
globally abundant raw materials, fundamental safety due to its aqueous electrolyte, and a 99%
recycling rate, which minimizes the health and environmental risks. Your video proves that no matter what battery you're using. If you're charging system is faulty your batteries fail. This is why many batteries in the pleasure boat community fail. Because after a day on the water. The boats batteries are not in a constant state of charge/trickle charge. Which then leads to sulfation.
Kind of nice not to have to depend on someone to keep track of your batteries! Once they are to low there’s no going back.
@@WillFixThat if you're paying a crew members to do a job and they don't do it. Then you fire them. If a captain can't maintain simple batteries on a small pleasure boat. Then he's probably not maintaining anything else. Don't know what you mean about, "once they go low there's no going back." Can you elaborate?
AGM
Agree 👍
AGM. LI FERROUS REQUIRES DIFFERENT CHARGERS and inverters if they are 48v. 12v versions requires different chargers.
AGM all the way at this time 👍
LIFEPO4
Thanks for sharing.