the Western Dragon model is often a symbol of greed and destruction while the Eastern Dragon are often a symbol for wisdom and creation. But what both models share in common that is undeniable, is that they are power incarnate.
Lore: dragons are big dangerous creatures that can dominant a majority of foes. Always eating meat and never getting full Artoria:(eating as a chibi) shirou seconds
It's not a matter of Can't. Medea can (in theory) summon the dragon, but she'd have Zero control over it and would almost certainly die to friendly fire.
Abridged Archer EMIYA: Let me get this straight. He summoned a Caster. Got upset when his non Rider servant couldn't summon a dragon their legend doesn't even mention them controlling in the first place. Then proceed to get angry when his Caster servant is better at magecraft then him?
HO OH, my patience in meditating your arrival in finally tackling this topic is pleasantly rewarded! Dragons are my peak favorite Fantasy species to explore, many thanks for this beautiful vid!😌
I still wanna know how exactly Nasu *defines* phantasmal beings because when I hear the word phantasmal, it makes me think of *ethereal* beings like ghosts; & the fact that dragons can be slain proves that they're *corporeal* . Also, it wasn't *just* his greed that turned Fáfnir (Fowf.nir) into a dragon; in the story of Ottars Ransom, Lóki (Hlou.ki) basically *mugged* the dwarf king Andvari for his gold to pay the ransom to Ottars family, but Andvari plead with Lóki to at the *very* least let him keep a specific *ring* that'd let him create *more* gold to replenish his wealth; when Lóki *refused* , Andvari *cursed* the ring to *prey* on greedy peoples greed, & bring anyone *besides* himself who claimed it as their own to meet a *horrible* end. After the ransom was paid, the ring *preyed* on Fáfnirs greed, & he *killed* his father to sieze it *&* the ransom for *himself* before flying to a cave he'd make his lair once the *ring* caused his greed to turn him into a dragon. Also, I honestly find the Nibelungenlied version of the slaying to be a whole lot *lamer* because of the bathing in the blood & becoming completely immortal except for a small area on a hard to reach spot on his body thing; it honestly *trivializes* all of Siegfrieds *later* exploits when you know it's most likely thanks to his literally being almost completely *invincible* that he was able to do them. *Contrast* that with the Völsunga Saga, in which Sigurð eats part of Fáfnirs heart (he saved the other part for the woman he'd marry), & only gaining the ability to understand the speech of birds means that other than that, he was still an ordinary man who did all those later feats, which makes Sigurð a *way* more impressive figure than Siegfried. I'm also surprised you didn't give so much as a mention to *Niðhoggr* ; the dragon that lies at the roots of Yggdrasil, & *gnaws* on its roots; with its completely gnawing one of them *off* being one of the triggers of *Ragnarök* , & which afterwards would devour the corpses of the dead.
@@otakudaikun thanks; I honestly have a very *different* idea about gods I'm gonna employ in my TTRPG system, but thanks for the explanation of Nasus definition.
Can we please get a version of Artoria that also undergoes the evil dragon phenomenon in Fgo. Where she looks similar to Queen Draco and Siegfried and his third Ascension and she's wielding a corrupted Excalibur that has a dragon Motif on it
Unfortunately, I forgot the most important piece of information: Dragon blood grants the ability to use magic to someone who was not born with magic circles, as happened with Siegfried and King Arthur with the help of Merlin. But unfortunately it does not exist in the modern era. I wonder, do the Magi understand science or are they stupid? It is true that learning magic is easy, but don't they know that science is capable of generating mystery?
@@MassiAiratemane Imagine the amount of mystery that comes from the idea of parallel universes, and yet I am trying to find a way to make someone who was not born with magic circles able to use magic. All I can find is the idea of finding a fairy and eating it, although its appearance is rare in the modern era.
@@MassiAiratemane no, It was the inability of most people to use magic that led to his disappearance. It is not for human consumption. It is also bad and gets better with better births. But for someone who was not born with the ability to use magic to be able to use it, he would have to obtain magic essence by drinking blood. Dragon, eat a fairy, eat a mermaid, or ask a god to give you this ability. But the gods and dragons have disappeared since the end of the Age of the Gods. Mermaids no longer exist, while fairies have become rare.
Great video as usual! Very helpful. At some point, would it be possible for you to cover Daemons or Demons? No rush, of course; any lessons you do are great!
@@otakudaikundo u know any tips on how to get around copyright cause I’m trying to post a fan animation of Gilgamesh from bilbili I’m guessing it’s cause of the music
@@Angras_advocate18 Most definitely the music. I went through your playlist and I'll be showcasingy favorites, but you really can't upload the whole thing, especially with copyrighted audio.
@@Angras_advocate18 Depends. Is your entire video getting taken down? It's quite possible that the ones online aren't monetized, or the revenue goes to whomever made the claim.
@@insanemakaioshin Oh right, but what bizarre ritual would give someone both? I suppose if Merlin did his magic on caster artoria like he did the saber one. They'd be really strong I guess lol
Wouldn't it technically apply to Mélusine? She is both a dragon and a fairy (kinda). I think it would be something like this: Main circuits of her Dragon nucleus (that's the name of the skill) that acts as the main reactor, while the divine patterns act as sub circuits for a more focused channeling of her magical energy.
Shouldn't the dragons to pre-exist humanity be regarded as True Dragons? Especially considering they came Into existence Prior to the birth of humans And exist outside of that sphere of influence
@@otakudaikun ok so red breaths fire blue breaths lightning green breaths poison gas black breaths acid white breaths ice and that's just the main five Chromatic dragons
What's the best dragon in Type Moon?
I'm impartial to the eastern dragons
A toss up between Melusine, Sieg, and Oryou for me.
Id say albion
Fafnir, if anyone can kill and drain in its blood they can literally become OP
Can you talk about Vritra
the Western Dragon model is often a symbol of greed and destruction while the Eastern Dragon are often a symbol for wisdom and creation. But what both models share in common that is undeniable, is that they are power incarnate.
On the odd occassion, you can get evil eastern dragons and good western dragons. Big example of this is Orochi.
Lore: dragons are big dangerous creatures that can dominant a majority of foes. Always eating meat and never getting full
Artoria:(eating as a chibi) shirou seconds
Grilled chicken burgers are the true pure mana meat.😌
Fujimaru Ritsuka with team Chaldea killing Dragons and Eating them for Breakfast to Dinner.
Giant Roosters and Giant Hens are also Dragon Class?
Hey hey hey, we're not going to talk about how wyverns resemble swallows
And Dragons are just larger swallows to the saviour of France
It's not a matter of Can't. Medea can (in theory) summon the dragon, but she'd have Zero control over it and would almost certainly die to friendly fire.
Abridged Archer EMIYA: Let me get this straight. He summoned a Caster. Got upset when his non Rider servant couldn't summon a dragon their legend doesn't even mention them controlling in the first place. Then proceed to get angry when his Caster servant is better at magecraft then him?
"especially vulnerable to a certain japanese swordman" Kojiro saviour of France! :P
All hail Lord Kojiro The Dragon Slayer and The Saviour of France!!
Great lesson as always. Hmmm best Dragon in faye huh. Melusine definitely Melusine. Although Artoria is a hella close second
HO OH, my patience in meditating your arrival in finally tackling this topic is pleasantly rewarded! Dragons are my peak favorite Fantasy species to explore, many thanks for this beautiful vid!😌
Nice to see a fellow Dragon fan 👍😎
Don't let Avicebron hear you. The mention of golems is jinxed, you'll compromise your location
I still wanna know how exactly Nasu *defines* phantasmal beings because when I hear the word phantasmal, it makes me think of *ethereal* beings like ghosts; & the fact that dragons can be slain proves that they're *corporeal* .
Also, it wasn't *just* his greed that turned Fáfnir (Fowf.nir) into a dragon; in the story of Ottars Ransom, Lóki (Hlou.ki) basically *mugged* the dwarf king Andvari for his gold to pay the ransom to Ottars family, but Andvari plead with Lóki to at the *very* least let him keep a specific *ring* that'd let him create *more* gold to replenish his wealth; when Lóki *refused* , Andvari *cursed* the ring to *prey* on greedy peoples greed, & bring anyone *besides* himself who claimed it as their own to meet a *horrible* end. After the ransom was paid, the ring *preyed* on Fáfnirs greed, & he *killed* his father to sieze it *&* the ransom for *himself* before flying to a cave he'd make his lair once the *ring* caused his greed to turn him into a dragon.
Also, I honestly find the Nibelungenlied version of the slaying to be a whole lot *lamer* because of the bathing in the blood & becoming completely immortal except for a small area on a hard to reach spot on his body thing; it honestly *trivializes* all of Siegfrieds *later* exploits when you know it's most likely thanks to his literally being almost completely *invincible* that he was able to do them. *Contrast* that with the Völsunga Saga, in which Sigurð eats part of Fáfnirs heart (he saved the other part for the woman he'd marry), & only gaining the ability to understand the speech of birds means that other than that, he was still an ordinary man who did all those later feats, which makes Sigurð a *way* more impressive figure than Siegfried.
I'm also surprised you didn't give so much as a mention to *Niðhoggr* ; the dragon that lies at the roots of Yggdrasil, & *gnaws* on its roots; with its completely gnawing one of them *off* being one of the triggers of *Ragnarök* , & which afterwards would devour the corpses of the dead.
They're like gods basically superstitious creatures that exist from human belief, or as direct agents of the planet.
@@otakudaikun thanks; I honestly have a very *different* idea about gods I'm gonna employ in my TTRPG system, but thanks for the explanation of Nasus definition.
Ohhhh I've been waiting for this lesson! Thank you professor dai! Can't wait for the next lesson
I love it when narratives get creative with dragon lore
Dragons are forever cool!
I'm a simple man I see dragons I click 🐲
Can we please get a version of Artoria that also undergoes the evil dragon phenomenon in Fgo. Where she looks similar to Queen Draco and Siegfried and his third Ascension and she's wielding a corrupted Excalibur that has a dragon Motif on it
2:38 dnd rules really do spread everywhere
Unfortunately, I forgot the most important piece of information: Dragon blood grants the ability to use magic to someone who was not born with magic circles, as happened with Siegfried and King Arthur with the help of Merlin. But unfortunately it does not exist in the modern era. I wonder, do the Magi understand science or are they stupid? It is true that learning magic is easy, but don't they know that science is capable of generating mystery?
Magi are very arrogant so they probably look dawn on science
@@MassiAiratemane Imagine the amount of mystery that comes from the idea of parallel universes, and yet I am trying to find a way to make someone who was not born with magic circles able to use magic. All I can find is the idea of finding a fairy and eating it, although its appearance is rare in the modern era.
@@dragon-w2d in fate human beliefs affect the world so it should be possible for a regular person to use mystery if they believe that they could
But it was never stated so its unlikely to be possible
@@MassiAiratemane no, It was the inability of most people to use magic that led to his disappearance. It is not for human consumption. It is also bad and gets better with better births. But for someone who was not born with the ability to use magic to be able to use it, he would have to obtain magic essence by drinking blood. Dragon, eat a fairy, eat a mermaid, or ask a god to give you this ability. But the gods and dragons have disappeared since the end of the Age of the Gods. Mermaids no longer exist, while fairies have become rare.
Thank you
Great video as usual! Very helpful. At some point, would it be possible for you to cover Daemons or Demons? No rush, of course; any lessons you do are great!
I think I did in my lesson on demon hunters.
Professor Dai is best Dai.
Makes you wonder what it'd be like if the dragons of Dragon Maid came to Chaldea.
Bro u should make a vid for all the great type-moon fan animations out there, I gathered all the ones I could find in my anime fan animations playlist
That's a cool idea.
@@otakudaikundo u know any tips on how to get around copyright cause I’m trying to post a fan animation of Gilgamesh from bilbili I’m guessing it’s cause of the music
@@Angras_advocate18 Most definitely the music. I went through your playlist and I'll be showcasingy favorites, but you really can't upload the whole thing, especially with copyrighted audio.
@@otakudaikun do u know how so many others get away with having the same rabbit hole song in their vids
@@Angras_advocate18 Depends. Is your entire video getting taken down? It's quite possible that the ones online aren't monetized, or the revenue goes to whomever made the claim.
Good lesson
Do you have a playlist with all of these lessons on it? I couldn't seem to find it
@@ninjaguyweaver Huh, well I guarantee it's there.
I searched it three times and was convinced that it didnt exist. Just checked now and found it right away... I feel like an idiot... Lol@@otakudaikun
I love dragons
So, Artoria Pendragon is Steel/Dragon type XD
2:!2 Hail the Savior of France forever shall we sing his praises
Dragons can absorb each other's power. Like Namekian Fusion?
You know for a while, I actually thought you were secretly Ben Diskin.
What if someone has both a Dragon core & Fairy patterns?
Fairy patterns? Oh, that's just the name for a fairy's more powerful circuits.
@@otakudaikun Divine Patterns, Fairy circuits, are also called Fairy patterns.
@@insanemakaioshin Oh right, but what bizarre ritual would give someone both? I suppose if Merlin did his magic on caster artoria like he did the saber one. They'd be really strong I guess lol
@@otakudaikun Given that Artoria had a Dragon Core & Morgan had Fairy Patterns, Mordred should have both.
Wouldn't it technically apply to Mélusine? She is both a dragon and a fairy (kinda). I think it would be something like this:
Main circuits of her Dragon nucleus (that's the name of the skill) that acts as the main reactor, while the divine patterns act as sub circuits for a more focused channeling of her magical energy.
Shouldn't the dragons to pre-exist humanity be regarded as True Dragons? Especially considering they came Into existence Prior to the birth of humans And exist outside of that sphere of influence
still waiting on azi daka
Hail Hydra🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
Would Kijyo Koyo count as a dragon, despite having the appearance of a dinosaur?
I don't think so, unless I mentioned her here.
@@otakudaikun ok 👍
Aren't the deinos of losbelt 7 subspecies of dragons?
@@tahamoukhliss8420 Maybe? I haven't played it yet.
The Chinese dragons are seen as symbols for the Chinese emperors, where do they fit in this current lessons in magecraft of the dragons?
I don't know. Sounds like it would give emperors some kinda bonus as heroic spirits.
Finally...there be Dragons
ahhh so western style dragons work off dnd color logic right?
I'm not so sure. Not a DND expert.
@@otakudaikun ok so
red breaths fire
blue breaths lightning
green breaths poison gas
black breaths acid
white breaths ice
and that's just the main five Chromatic dragons
@@Ashley-the-fox Yeah, that's fair. I just wish we had more examples of each.
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Your Discord Server is filled with people who lowkey hate you.
Really? Also what's the reason for the hate?
@@prasant6533 no, they are just being a troll
Context?