One thing they messed up: in the original, Dodo’s helmet falls over his eyes comically when he goes for a peck. That’s why Mario’s entire bit there works, Dodo can’t see him jumping.
@@SuiteBidit does not. Just pause during the pecks, you can totally see his eyes. Then compare to the original. The entire peck animation his eyes are completely obscured (helps to pause so you can see it better)
Lmao King Nimbus wanting their autographs is hilariously wholesome. I like to think they did give him their autographs once they came back and he probably has them framed in his room.
Same as how they changed Magus' name to "Fiendlord" in the latest releases of CT. While that's the literal translation from the Japanese, it just worked better. Just like PSI sounds better than PK in Mother.
Oh right, there was something about Mario no longer being considered a plumber, wasn't there, so now Plumber's Lament would not make as much sense. I could see it as a jab at the lack of Luigi too.
Plumber lament is better. "Legs of the masses" it was very smart joke. Just the kind of thing a lady like her would pretend to get. It's supposed to be ugly because it represents the unwashed masses. Like how rich people like to dress poor to make a fashion statement. I was confused when playing the new game cus I remember the joke being funny. Had to go look up the old game to see what the funny old joke was.
There are TWO Feathers this time around: you can get both of them, but should you CHOOSE to face Dodo first before his second fight alongside the excessively salty and vain Valentina - you can kiss the first Feather goodbye for it will be gone forever - with only the second one up for grabs. Though this might be intentional in the remake to have the secondary Feather should the first one be lost, having two would make for viable option for two slow party members to catch up more before the targets.
@@felipefernandez8309 Moleville, ask the Treasure-Hunting Toad in the shop next to you. He’ll offer a variety of items - among them includes the second Feather, which costs 250 coins.
I don't like the change imo. The original was purposefully trying to make degrading remarks about Mario's physique with the purpose of feeding into Valentina's narcissism. It was a comical bit where the joke worked because of how it was tied into the plot where they needed to infiltrate Mario into the castle, and in an act of desperation, Garro understandably tried convincing Valentina that the "statue" represents something that is essentially "beneath" her, at the expense of Mario's dignity. Here, the remake loses the joke in favor of something that honestly doesn't even make sense to me, in a vain attempt to make it more "kid friendly" or to "elevate" Mario so the players don't find Mario as a joke. Those kind of changes makes me question why did they even bother in the first place if the original game was so beloved how it was already?
@@MrSuperstargamer narcissistic doesn't mean you only want to see yourself beautiful in art you might sometimes want other great people in art next to you to show how great you are. And I don't know if it's because I'm french but she isn't that narcissistic in the game. She's more manipulative than anything else. Actually her whole thing is that she is manipulative. Also the king of the castle already had lots of golden statues of himself at all those places, and those statues were being replaced with the statues of the new queen. hope you can reflect on your outburst and calm down.
@@tarlaihope Narcissism is the personality disorder where one with a fragile ego creates social situations that elevates their ego by being seen positively and putting others down. To inflate a narcissist's ego, you follow in that line of thinking to elevate their sense of self by either raising their status or putting others down. With the cloud man deflating Mario's ego and Valentina absolutely loving, it is exactly narcissism as she's already elevated herself by replacing all the statues with herself. To present a means of lowering another person's ego and her loving it is narcissistic. If she was only vain, then she wouldn't have cared what the man said about Mario: she would have only wanted more statues of herself.
@@AkaiAzul she is somewhat narcissistic but her thing is that she is manipulative. Also technically since she became the new queen the statues of the king would get replaced with statues of her, there are statues of the king everywhere of course they would get replaced wether she is narcissistic or not if she is the new queen. Also there is an Easter egg where you see her get in love with booster and at first she doesn't want to, until booster says something we can't know and then she wants to get married with booster. If she was narcissistic like you said she would have acted very differently with booster, so in the end she is not that narcissistic.
@@tarlaihope Narcissists can fall in love. Manipulation is a common tactic they use to achieve the aforementioned boost of self ego and putting others down. Admittedly, we don't know why she decided to try to usurp the throne, be it for power or disapproval of the current reign. With Booster, the man owns a tower and is probably rich and with servants / lackeys despite being a manchild. Unfortunately we don't know what he told her to change her mind. It could be something about her she liked, or his status.
They actually did fix the missing items issue. If for some reason you fail the statue game you can get the Feather from Treasure Hunting Toad in Moleville now. Also if you fail to get Booster's Charm/Amulet from losing the curtain game you can still get it by defeating Booster in the post game. So now if for some reason you want to challenge yourself by fighting these optional bosses from losing their respective minigames and still get the items that you would normally get if you won you now can.
@@knuclear200x It isn't. He doesn't care to polish, or more specifically, currently, instead of actually polishing statues, he decides to peck the things the source of his anger loves most, that being the statues.
the one thing I notice in the remake is that they removed the parts where valentina hits Dodo (unless you count the credits of the SNES one) I think the reason I can think of is because people didn't find it funny? that's my guess.
Many probably didn't notice that cause they noticed more that Valentina doesn't jiggle when she's hit The society has been sensitive to corporal punishments, that's why many concepts that did that removed it
Observe... the thick mustache... covering the sad, innocent smile of a simple fool... And the sideburns... conveying his blue collar roots. And the legs... well defined... Strong. The legs of the masses!" ~Garro
The old SNES script was just as much a result of text character limitations as it was of translators putting a custom spin. The remake doesn't have those limitations so it can more consistently translate the Japanese script. Though they kept some things intact.
i find the laughing music of the palace super werid. and i reverted to the original version and i cant unhear the laughing... i had to do this minigame twice to get the item btw you made an error with outcome one.. its called outcome 2 in the video so you got 2 outcome 2s
@@GhostladAaron ya as a younger person I never noticed the laughing, I just thought it was an instrument or synth..synthetic... As an adult post hearing remake, I can't unhear the laughter....
One thing they messed up: in the original, Dodo’s helmet falls over his eyes comically when he goes for a peck. That’s why Mario’s entire bit there works, Dodo can’t see him jumping.
Dang, that's such a charming and important detail that made that part so hilarious. How could they forget?
Tbf it can now be interpreted as him being oblivious to the jumping or something like that
It actually does go over his eyes, however, the 3D model and depth perception make it a bit difficult to see.
@@SuiteBidit does not. Just pause during the pecks, you can totally see his eyes. Then compare to the original. The entire peck animation his eyes are completely obscured (helps to pause so you can see it better)
@@DivineBanana
The helmet shifts forwards the same as the original, but depth perception and camera angle makes it look different.
I love how Mario just takes out the umbrella when Mallow goes to get his parents out. Pretty cute scene, honestly.
Is it the princess' parasol?
We can finally see Dodo running out of bounds in HD
lool yes
DODO FOR SMASH
Is there a timestamp for it
@@theopoldthegamer4284 6:15
Thank you @@YTSirBlack
Lmao King Nimbus wanting their autographs is hilariously wholesome.
I like to think they did give him their autographs once they came back and he probably has them framed in his room.
I honestly preferred Mario-as-statue being titled "A Plumber's Lament" and all of the ways Garro describes it.
Same as how they changed Magus' name to "Fiendlord" in the latest releases of CT.
While that's the literal translation from the Japanese, it just worked better.
Just like PSI sounds better than PK in Mother.
@@yourknightmannypk is a swear word in Chinese
@@kirbmaster9405that has nothing to do with a japanese game translated into english
@@yourknightmannyI think you may be confused. His name is Magus in every English release of Chrono Trigger.
Yes. It was very smart.
"in Search of Lost Brother"
I just noticed this is a reference to Luigi lol
Oh right, there was something about Mario no longer being considered a plumber, wasn't there, so now Plumber's Lament would not make as much sense. I could see it as a jab at the lack of Luigi too.
@@heroshadow42He still is considered one since Wonder mentions them being plumbers
This is the lamest shit they could’ve done
How did you just notice
Plumber lament is better. "Legs of the masses" it was very smart joke. Just the kind of thing a lady like her would pretend to get. It's supposed to be ugly because it represents the unwashed masses. Like how rich people like to dress poor to make a fashion statement. I was confused when playing the new game cus I remember the joke being funny. Had to go look up the old game to see what the funny old joke was.
There are TWO Feathers this time around: you can get both of them, but should you CHOOSE to face Dodo first before his second fight alongside the excessively salty and vain Valentina - you can kiss the first Feather goodbye for it will be gone forever - with only the second one up for grabs. Though this might be intentional in the remake to have the secondary Feather should the first one be lost, having two would make for viable option for two slow party members to catch up more before the targets.
How do you get the 2nd one?
@@felipefernandez8309 Moleville, ask the Treasure-Hunting Toad in the shop next to you. He’ll offer a variety of items - among them includes the second Feather, which costs 250 coins.
@abelblue7301 that's good to know..
Choose? I didn’t even get a choice. You *HAVE* to face him if you succeed at not getting pecked by Dodo
@@magicalhikari_05 well... in that regard you DO have a choice. GIT GUD or fight dodo
So that's where the idea of Golden Mario being in Mario Kart came from! Super Mario RPG!
And Super Mario Bros 2 DS
You missed the outcome where you jump alot in front of Dodo. Although all it does is change what he tries to Tell Valentina
I like the way Dodo runs, it is very funny
Wow they changed the dialogue of how he explained what the "Marotta" statue represented
I don't like the change imo. The original was purposefully trying to make degrading remarks about Mario's physique with the purpose of feeding into Valentina's narcissism. It was a comical bit where the joke worked because of how it was tied into the plot where they needed to infiltrate Mario into the castle, and in an act of desperation, Garro understandably tried convincing Valentina that the "statue" represents something that is essentially "beneath" her, at the expense of Mario's dignity. Here, the remake loses the joke in favor of something that honestly doesn't even make sense to me, in a vain attempt to make it more "kid friendly" or to "elevate" Mario so the players don't find Mario as a joke. Those kind of changes makes me question why did they even bother in the first place if the original game was so beloved how it was already?
@@MrSuperstargamer narcissistic doesn't mean you only want to see yourself beautiful in art you might sometimes want other great people in art next to you to show how great you are. And I don't know if it's because I'm french but she isn't that narcissistic in the game. She's more manipulative than anything else. Actually her whole thing is that she is manipulative. Also the king of the castle already had lots of golden statues of himself at all those places, and those statues were being replaced with the statues of the new queen. hope you can reflect on your outburst and calm down.
@@tarlaihope Narcissism is the personality disorder where one with a fragile ego creates social situations that elevates their ego by being seen positively and putting others down. To inflate a narcissist's ego, you follow in that line of thinking to elevate their sense of self by either raising their status or putting others down.
With the cloud man deflating Mario's ego and Valentina absolutely loving, it is exactly narcissism as she's already elevated herself by replacing all the statues with herself. To present a means of lowering another person's ego and her loving it is narcissistic. If she was only vain, then she wouldn't have cared what the man said about Mario: she would have only wanted more statues of herself.
@@AkaiAzul she is somewhat narcissistic but her thing is that she is manipulative. Also technically since she became the new queen the statues of the king would get replaced with statues of her, there are statues of the king everywhere of course they would get replaced wether she is narcissistic or not if she is the new queen. Also there is an Easter egg where you see her get in love with booster and at first she doesn't want to, until booster says something we can't know and then she wants to get married with booster. If she was narcissistic like you said she would have acted very differently with booster, so in the end she is not that narcissistic.
@@tarlaihope Narcissists can fall in love. Manipulation is a common tactic they use to achieve the aforementioned boost of self ego and putting others down. Admittedly, we don't know why she decided to try to usurp the throne, be it for power or disapproval of the current reign.
With Booster, the man owns a tower and is probably rich and with servants / lackeys despite being a manchild. Unfortunately we don't know what he told her to change her mind. It could be something about her she liked, or his status.
They actually did fix the missing items issue. If for some reason you fail the statue game you can get the Feather from Treasure Hunting Toad in Moleville now. Also if you fail to get Booster's Charm/Amulet from losing the curtain game you can still get it by defeating Booster in the post game. So now if for some reason you want to challenge yourself by fighting these optional bosses from losing their respective minigames and still get the items that you would normally get if you won you now can.
Never understood why pecking = polishing, but it's still great that they kept it
The bird is angry and pecks the statues in his frustration because he hates his job
@@game84cube but how is it polishing?
Dodo is just that good
@@knuclear200x It isn't. He doesn't care to polish, or more specifically, currently, instead of actually polishing statues, he decides to peck the things the source of his anger loves most, that being the statues.
@@AkaiAzul Yeah but the 2 bird guards mention that he polishes them too. They even attempt to do so in that same stabbing animation they're limited to
i wish they made any dialogue sound, it just seems weird without anything
I guess Mario did end up a wall decoration
You actually don't have to jump at 6:10
It's a fake out. I thought there was a consequence for falling for it though...
I'm kinda glad there never was, it's a pretty cool thing to figure out that you can only realize AFTER encountering it
I followed the music sound rythm and noticed that too
the one thing I notice in the remake is that they removed the parts where valentina hits Dodo (unless you count the credits of the SNES one) I think the reason I can think of is because people didn't find it funny? that's my guess.
Many probably didn't notice that cause they noticed more that Valentina doesn't jiggle when she's hit
The society has been sensitive to corporal punishments, that's why many concepts that did that removed it
I noticed it@@abrahamlupis9354
That's at the end credits, it's still there.
Observe... the thick mustache... covering the sad, innocent smile of a simple fool... And the sideburns... conveying his blue collar roots. And the legs... well defined... Strong. The legs of the masses!" ~Garro
Is it just me who thinks that Valentina looks WAY uglier in her boss form than her overworld form, or am I sane?
Its because her weird head and wide mouth is more prominent in boss form compared to Map form.
4:08
I always found this part funny too....mario shaking his head like, nonononononono 😅
I kinda wish during Dodo's fake-out he didn't animate, just completely shift frames like the original
Idk it still is very funny the way he goes out of bounds
There was literally no reason to change “A Plumber’s Lament” to “In Search of Lost Brother”. 0/10
It's a more accurate translation
The old SNES script was just as much a result of text character limitations as it was of translators putting a custom spin. The remake doesn't have those limitations so it can more consistently translate the Japanese script. Though they kept some things intact.
They even took out the Bruce Lee part when Mario wanted to fight Bowyer on his own
Cool! That’s how I far I got in super Mario rpg.
That’s 3rd peck when he runs back is killing me
I love Valentina's spell-casting animation but... I feel Peach can do it better : P
Have yall not seen how he just goes outside the map just to peck him?😂
If you peck Mario, mallow and Mario’s will throw lighting and bowser will shoot a hole cannon at dodo
5:25 start
6:20 End success
1:17 ...was this seriously the reason why luigi wasn't in mario rpg as an npc?
...cause that seems... dumb
Well at least he was at the ending as a parade leader in original mode in original and remake
That repetitive laugh gets on my nerves, going off every 2 - 3 seconds...
Shhhhh she’s reading the funnies 🤫
i find the laughing music of the palace super werid.
and i reverted to the original version and i cant unhear the laughing...
i had to do this minigame twice to get the item
btw you made an error with outcome one.. its called outcome 2 in the video so you got 2 outcome 2s
The laughing is in the OG too, just not as easy to tell that it is laughing.
@@GhostladAaron ya as a younger person I never noticed the laughing, I just thought it was an instrument or synth..synthetic...
As an adult post hearing remake, I can't unhear the laughter....
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Broly mad
I, too, have seen that video.
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Was this video necessary? Can't people just play the game?
They played the original game 27 years ago, so this is for the people that isn't interested in buying the remake
I just wanted to see what the remake's statue section was like.
Some of us don’t have that much money like you… sheesh
Because I'd like to see different outcomes after playing it once...
Some of us who had the original decades ago might be curious how the remake compares to their memories of the original, mmmkay? 🤨
This game is suck