Ingrid knew if loki died kratos would not hold back his rage anymore would no longer need control everyone in asgard would die and anyone that teied to stop him from avenging his boy would pay the same price has the ones that killed boy
She was trying to talk Thor into realizing that Odin’s silver tongue has influenced him and all the hardships that have been brought down to Thor and his family was influenced by the all-father, but of course Thor was too scared of Odin to admit it to him, and was also influenced by Odin to not think much about anything so he turned his hate towards Loki, which he had a right mind to do so.
During this scene. Sif was not exactly trying to convince Thor to kill atreus, She was trying to make him understand that he should stand up against Odin.
Odin's having a point when defending Atreus from being accused of Heimdall's death when Kratos was the one who killed. No child should be judged or blamed for the actions of their parents.
The way sif talked to thor about their boys childhood made it look like at one point thor and sif were good parents i wonder when that changed or if it was all odins orders
Was all odins orders something I noticed about this game is how they showed the asgardians were actually innocent and decent people as compared to just going by what everyone else says and it shows you that it was the leadership of the all father that made them do horrible things. It makes you see that the world isn't just black and white and it's actually Grey.
@@th3ra83 but if it was then why when sif and thor talked about having their boys fall asleep in their laps carve them woodwn horses soundes much nicer and like good parents something much have changed for them to go from that to beating the shit out of their kids even if it was the norm in asgard
They made Thor a shockingly deep character, a tragic character. You can see just how ashamed he is of himself, and how stressed and depressed he is throughout the game. You can tell he wants to rebel against Odin, but doesn’t due to Odin’s manipulation. And that moment you realize Sif isn’t talking about Atreus, but she’s talking about Odin Also this game is still a masterpiece in 2024
At first when I got to that scene I thought she was blaming Atreus. But rewatching it, hearing her say "He's not protecting us." She really is talking about Odin. Can't believe that went over my head.
2:38 i love how they actually bothered to animate Kratos standing there waiting for Atreus for that split second, just shows how much they went the extra mile on detail for this game.
if atreus was killed or hurt here kratos would deadass straight up start ragnarok REAL QUICK AFTER THAT ONE LMAO kratos pantheon kill count was about to go to 2 if atreus was killed lmao
Imagine if Atreus actually died at the hands of Thor in this scene, but the boy was able to teleport the mask to the world tree before he died. Kratos and Mimir would have seen the mask fall and find blood on it, taking it as a sign that Atreus was dead. Kratos would go ballistic; the Ghost of Sparta would be unleashed, and he would do everything necessary to start Ragnarok. Odin catches wind that Kratos is about to get things popping off, so he sends Thor to kill Kratos. Kratos and Thor have a destructive battle unlike anything we have ever seen; their battle breaks through the barriers between realms, scarring each one the same way Kratos' fight with Baldur made canyons. In the end, Kratos goes ballistic and kills Thor by smashing him with his own hammer. He shouts to the heavens with Mjolnir raised "ODIN! YOU SEND YOUR KIN AGAINST ME, BUT ALL FALL! COME DOWN HERE AND FACE ME, YOU COWARD!" Mimir and all of the others witness how unhinged and dangerous Kratos is, so they all start to run away from him; he has a small snap back to reality and recognizes that the monster is coming out, so he quickly bottles it up and pleads to this friends to come back, but none of them do. He kneels down over Thor's shattered corpse and feels deep sorrow within as he is ashamed for going back to his old ways. Footsteps in the snow are heard as Kratos continues to kneel with his head down in sadness; he doesn't car if it is friend or foe, he just wishes his son was alive. We see Atreus' hand pat Kratos on the shoulder. "You did it father. You killed Thor." Kratos looks up to see his son standing there with bewildered amusement on his face. He never died from Thor; he used his powers of illusion and transformation to convince everyone in Niflheim that he died, and he used those same powers to trick Kratos and the gang. "Atreus... how?" Kratos grabs his son by the shoulders but has no idea what to say. "Father listen... all those years of you sending me out hunting... I've been practicing my magic. With both Greek god and Giant blood, I'm capable of all kinds of things. While you slept, I left illusions of myself in my bed so you'd never know, but I went into Tyr's temple many times and read just about everything there was about you; how you killed the old god of war, all the other gods, and destroyed Olympus." Kratos releases his grip from his son, anger stewing within. "Get to the point, boy." "You would never tell me how dangerous you really were, so I figured it out myself. I also understood that nothing could make you as angry as when you're afraid for my life! This was the only way to get you to kill Thor after all he did to the Gia-" "HOW DARE YOU TRICK ME LIKE THIS! EVERYONE IN GREECE DID THE SAME; YOU THINK IT WISE TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS? FOLLOW IN **MY** FOOTSTEPS?!" Kratos suddenly stops shouting; his anger instantly switched to sadness as he realizes his son is on a path of vengeance just like he was many years ago in Greece. He's heartbroken that his own son would manipulate him like this. "I... I should have taken you out of these lands after we spread your mother's ashes... I was a fool to think you could live well here..." Kratos starts to walk away form his son; he looks into the sky with tears in his eyes and a crack in his voice. "I failed you... Faye... I failed to stop our son from becoming a monster like me." Kratos starts walking away; Atreus screams for him to come back. "You got YOUR vengeance all those years ago, now what about mine? What about mother's? Our entire race is dead because of the Aesir, and you're just going to walk away?!" Kratos continues to walk until an incoming snow storm swallows him out of sight; he needs time away from his son to get his head clear, and to avoid being manipulated again. Atreus breaks down crying next to Thor's smashed body; Kratos left Mjolnir there, so Atreus starts kicking at it in his own frustration and rage. Odin appears with his Ravens and looks at Atreus in pity. The boy stops crying for a moment and tries to pick up the hammer, which he successfully does, summoning a deep strength that he inherited from his father. "Ah calm down Loki. That's mighty impressive, you tricking your dad into killing Thor. You know, I could use a man of your talent in my court, even if you don't have the mask." Atreus thinks to himself and how he can trick Odin and destroy Asgard from the inside through the years, but Odin is aware of Atreus and his plot. He just plans on using the kid as bait to get the mask from Kratos. Atreus agrees and is teleported away with Odin by raven. Brok was watching the whole conversation. He teleports to Kratos and finds him preparing a ship that could carry him and Atreus away from the Norse lands and to parts unknown. Brok tells Kratos about Atreus willingly going with Odin to Asgard. "Brok, do you know of any way at all to get into Asgard? An secrets only a dwarf would know?" "No." "Then... the only way in... is Ragnarok." Screen goes black. Text pops up and says "THE END BEGINS" signifying that this game is over and a part three is on the way.
@@grandpakfcchickenbucket507 This is what I was really hoping they would go for if they made a trilogy. Loki needs to spend time in Asgard to match the mythology, as well as many other things. Kratos needs to learn that sometimes war is necessary for the betterment of many others. In Greece, he fought for revenge. In Viking lands, he would fight for love and freedom. He is the God of War whether he likes it or not, but he needs to learn that sometimes war really is the only way. But when I learned about a year ago that the Viking area was only getting two games, my expectations were entirely shattered. I personally did not like Ragnarok because many parts of the story felt very rushed and many parts were dragged for much too long. Don't even get me started on how the game play annoyed me in this one compared to every other God of War game. I feel like 2018 had some really good setup for things like what I typed above, but Ragnarok gave us a story that was very vanilla and safe, like it was a movie that the whole family could enjoy.
@@christianhenry4173 He didn't "give" her the hammer, he flung her into a mountain with the hammer intending to basically make her the next Thor; his next murderer and enforcer. Odin only ever cared about himself.
@@christianhenry4173 If only so he could use her later. Let's not kid around for what Odin intended for Thrud; he wanted to take her and use her like he used Thor.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 ok he did make sure to keep Thrudd away from family drama. It was hinted by Heimdall her uncle that She was the protected one of the family. Thor even made sure to be protective of his daughter. Yes Odin was a dick but he did make sure to keep Thrudd out of the family fight that has nothing to do with kratos either. The only reason kratos got involved was because of Atreus as Loki, and Faye protecting her family and remaining giants
My guess he would outright pissed amd tell the valkyries that are present to put Sif under some sort of house arrest or something and tell thor from now on he will be listening to Him down to the letter from now on
Thor: You killed my sons,sleep in their beds Turn my father against me My daughter Loki; how could I turn your father against you when your father already despises you, you're an embarrassment to him (Laughs) Look at little Odin jr gonna cry? 2:33
I don't think people are getting it. The title's misleading. Sif didn't want Thor to go at Atreus, she wanted him to confront Odin for sending members of her family on suicide missions. They lost Magni, Modi, and Baldur to Kratos, Thor was technically already dying when he got cut by the venom imbued axe, Heimdall was now dead (Thank God), and Thrud nearly died several times. Thor just decided to vent his anger on the one person who was actually trying to do some good...albeit in a bad way, but still.
Thor:Turn my father against me Me: No ThOr your father was against everyone this entire time Atreus was right and I’m sad you only learned it until it was too late
@@mateuszkrowicki3323 He's also being manipulated by his own father. Sadly, this happens in real life, too. It's what makes Thor's tale, in some ways, a tragedy.
I'd love to see other scenario where atreus got killed and kratos went rage crazed, pulling aesirs heads of their shoulders, bashing their heads to pulp, gouging their eyes off, bring doom to all 9 realm as he did with greek before and move on to egypt 🤣
The thing is? At least even though Odin was using Kratos and Atreus as pets and although he is a master manipulator, he didn't blame Atreus for Heimdall's death. He at least blames Heimdall's death on both Heimdall and Kratos themselves. Heimdall for his ego and anger to Kratos for giving him mercy and to Kratos for killing Heimdall.
Ingrid: you're welcome everyone. Thor: oh giant talking sword, what fate would have been brought if I killed him? Ingrid: *points at a ps2* play that, then come back to me
Imagine if Atreus wasn’t saved in time and imagine the grief and fury of Kratos. He’d probably head to Asgard on his own and slaughter every living thing in the realm and wiping out the Aesir in an hour or two. Thor gets the Kratos he wanted to see as Kratos picks up Mjolnir and beats him to death with it
It is admittedly a little weird what Sif is trying to do here. It's clear when she's talking to Thor, she's referring to *Odin*, not Atreus... but not only does she not really do anything when Thor points his aggression at Atreus, but then what was her goal anyway in trying to arrest Atreus here? I wish we could've possibly seen her more during the post game and get some answers as to what was going on in her head here because it's all just a bit confusing to me. Sure, we could blow it off as simply resentment due to Magni and Modi's deaths, but then that resentment is seemingly gone later
At this point in the story, Sif clearly hates Atreus. Let's not forget, Atreus was the one who stabbed Modi to death in the end. All she sees when she looks at him is the murderer of her son.
I’m going to be honest Lady Sif is let’s just say a hypocrite never apologize to Her daughter or Atreus didn’t help her husband change some random gods had to help Thor change and random I say because not many know who Kratos is or Loki
Yeah, Sif was making a lot of double standards throughout. She blames Thor for ruining her relationship with her daughter when she is thf one refusing to support her. She gives Atreus the finger when he tries to help her understand what she's doing to her relationship. She does nothing to try and improve her relationship with her family, yet she goes and blames other people for her problems.
I can see what's happening and they don't have a clue, They'll start a war and here's the bottom line the Gods will all die too, Ze sweet carress of midnight and howling everywhere, And with all this dramatic atmosphere disasters in the air.
Things that I imagine would happen if Thor actually did kill Atreus: 1) Upon hearing of Atreus getting killed, Kratos screaming so loudly that it can be heard in all 9 realms and going into a permanent state of Spartan Rage. 2) Kratos going to Asgard and destroying the great wall. 3) Kratos absolutely massacring every single person who's even remotely related to Thor including ripping Thrud's head off right in front of Thor. 4) Kratos crushing Mjolnir with his bare hands. 5) Kratos killing himself after he's done with Asgard because he has absolutely nothing left to live for.
Atreus is pretty much the fail safe, he is killed and then Kratos murders an entire Pantheon again. Kratos won't really have any reason to hold back his strength anymore.
i love how so many people are saying odin told thor to stand down and the NOOOO was cause he feared he would ged OG god of war kratos, when the actaul reason is... spoilers: later on its revealed that only loki/atreus is the one who can use the mask to look into the tear and get odin his precious "answers". if thor had killed loki, the mask and rift would have become useless, and all of odins work would have been for NOTHING
Why is the voice acting in this game so "off"? They should sound Scandinavian, instead Sif, Atreus, etc all just sound like modern day Americans. It's so disconcerting in every scene.
Because the game was developed and everything was recorded in southern California. Also: GoW has a primarily english speaking audience; there are only so many Scandinavian actors that are comfortable performing in multiple languages.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 Skyrim pulled it off at a fraction of the budget. No excuse. They could also, crazy idea so bear with me on this, have asked the actors to pretend and not just use their normal speaking voices.
Everyone here acting like Atreus dying would have been the end of the gods. Need I remind you that Kratos' first fight with a god in this game resulted in him getting his skull caved in and only surviving because his opponent willed it? Not all gods are made equal, and if you say he was holding back, so was Thor. But it would have been something to see, regardless of how it goes down.
The Aesir were really close to extinction. Good thing Thor failed to kill Atreus.
Thanks to Ingrid
@@Ritesh1133 agreed
The old Kratos would have been back in a matter of seconds
Aesir gods: huh, what is this circle above our heads?💀
“ODIN! YOUR ENEMIES HAVE RETURNED! I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF ASGARD!”
you know what? Ingrid saved entire Norse phanteon by blocking Mjolnir
Shouldn't have
@@Aaron-ze1iofr it would be awesome to see what happens after that.
When thor swung mjolnir, Ingrid saved loki's life. I love these details.
Yes that what happened
Not just Loki, he saved all the Asguardians as well
Ingrid knew if loki died kratos would not hold back his rage anymore would no longer need control everyone in asgard would die and anyone that teied to stop him from avenging his boy would pay the same price has the ones that killed boy
@@H0LL0WHearteD well Ingrid never met kratos so idk what you mean by this but yeah that’s a good theory ngl
Same
Lady sif almost ordered the death of all the 9 realms
She was trying to talk Thor into realizing that Odin’s silver tongue has influenced him and all the hardships that have been brought down to Thor and his family was influenced by the all-father, but of course Thor was too scared of Odin to admit it to him, and was also influenced by Odin to not think much about anything so he turned his hate towards Loki, which he had a right mind to do so.
@@Alextooclean i think he was talking about kratos killing everything if atreus died
During this scene. Sif was not exactly trying to convince Thor to kill atreus, She was trying to make him understand that he should stand up against Odin.
So why did thor attack boi?
@@mateuszkrowicki3323 angry and has been broken by odin for the longest time
@@01dominico she didn't even try to stop him
if he didn't strike, odin might have gotten the mask
@@zakkosu727 that's because she never really liked atreus
The first time I watched this, I thought Thor was going to turn on Odin. I mean Sif was pretty much blaming Odin.
She was in a certain way if you look at it
Ah. I just finished the game. It turns out she was.
@@kennyleung9909 Yeah, he just wanted his dad to love him, and, also, couldn't bring himself to stand up to him.
Odin's having a point when defending Atreus from being accused of Heimdall's death when Kratos was the one who killed.
No child should be judged or blamed for the actions of their parents.
One of the very few times I almost took Odin’s side. He’s still obviously trying to manipulate the situation, but he does make a genuinely good point.
@@Wolf_Dominic
The same.
@@Wolf_Dominic "when Odin tells you snow is white he's lying "
Odin never speaks the truth.
@@---bg9dq Fair
@@---bg9dq And when he does, he's slanting it or using it for his own ends. Mimir was trying to say that nothing Odin says is to be trusted.
If Thor succeeded in killing Atreus: “Why are there red circles floating above our heads?”
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@@CvjmkadIf you don't know its a minigame kratos does just like R3 but in older games and they are dead
Ingrid just stopped Kratos's pantheon kill count from increasing to 2
Tyr:Are you okey?
lmao,he just saw his son nearly killed him
Odin was tyr the whole time
Odin is no good but he sure as hell acknowledge what Kratos did to the Greek gods
The way sif talked to thor about their boys childhood made it look like at one point thor and sif were good parents i wonder when that changed or if it was all odins orders
Was all odins orders something I noticed about this game is how they showed the asgardians were actually innocent and decent people as compared to just going by what everyone else says and it shows you that it was the leadership of the all father that made them do horrible things. It makes you see that the world isn't just black and white and it's actually Grey.
She doesn't want to face the fact that she fucked them up like Thor has.
It was not Odin's order IMO. It is just basically like what Mimir said..... It is a common thing to raise child like that in Asgard.
@@th3ra83 but if it was then why when sif and thor talked about having their boys fall asleep in their laps carve them woodwn horses soundes much nicer and like good parents something much have changed for them to go from that to beating the shit out of their kids even if it was the norm in asgard
we keep forgeting that they did start problems wit kratos & his son first.
They made Thor a shockingly deep character, a tragic character. You can see just how ashamed he is of himself, and how stressed and depressed he is throughout the game. You can tell he wants to rebel against Odin, but doesn’t due to Odin’s manipulation.
And that moment you realize Sif isn’t talking about Atreus, but she’s talking about Odin
Also this game is still a masterpiece in 2024
At first when I got to that scene I thought she was blaming Atreus. But rewatching it, hearing her say "He's not protecting us." She really is talking about Odin. Can't believe that went over my head.
I mean it’s only been 2 years since the game came out 😂
Didn't clarify I played it on PC. So two years of avoiding spoilers.
You could hear some fear in odins "Hey, stand down" because he feared the monster that would seek vengeance.
no he feared he would loose atreus/loki, who we learn later is the only one who can use the mask to get him his "answers".
@@borinaandfriends8924 A bit of both, probably. His chance at the mask, and the terrifying return of the Ghost of Sparta, the destroyer of Olympus.
2:38 i love how they actually bothered to animate Kratos standing there waiting for Atreus for that split second, just shows how much they went the extra mile on detail for this game.
Odin: "Hey! Stand Down." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 had me rolling.
Why?
Ingrid coming in clutch to prevent God of War 3 from repeating lol.
These guys just casually dropping hundreds of metres to the ground and standing up like it's nothing
They are gods, after all
Oh, you mean the gods or the people who are part giant, part god? Figures from myth to whom the extraordinary is plain? Those guys?
All I hear is Elana Fisher when Sid talks.
0:55 Well, he's not wrong.
for once, we all agree with the villain
if atreus was killed or hurt here kratos would deadass straight up start ragnarok REAL QUICK AFTER THAT ONE LMAO
kratos pantheon kill count was about to go to 2 if atreus was killed lmao
Damn it! We were THIS close to getting an old fashioned GOW game had Thor killed Atreus, Kratos would have let loose over all the 9 realms.
No. He would kill all of them but it wouldn't be as brutal.
@@TheBunnyrum you sure? Killing boi would bring fuckin old self back
I mean it’s not a bad thing. I’m loving the new trilogy.
@@randomhooman1952 I mean, Heimdall threatened to kill Atreus right to Kratos' face and he only got choked out, so...
@@thatguy8777 he got the Hercules treatment and he even liked killing him
Imagine if Atreus actually died at the hands of Thor in this scene, but the boy was able to teleport the mask to the world tree before he died. Kratos and Mimir would have seen the mask fall and find blood on it, taking it as a sign that Atreus was dead.
Kratos would go ballistic; the Ghost of Sparta would be unleashed, and he would do everything necessary to start Ragnarok. Odin catches wind that Kratos is about to get things popping off, so he sends Thor to kill Kratos.
Kratos and Thor have a destructive battle unlike anything we have ever seen; their battle breaks through the barriers between realms, scarring each one the same way Kratos' fight with Baldur made canyons. In the end, Kratos goes ballistic and kills Thor by smashing him with his own hammer. He shouts to the heavens with Mjolnir raised "ODIN! YOU SEND YOUR KIN AGAINST ME, BUT ALL FALL! COME DOWN HERE AND FACE ME, YOU COWARD!"
Mimir and all of the others witness how unhinged and dangerous Kratos is, so they all start to run away from him; he has a small snap back to reality and recognizes that the monster is coming out, so he quickly bottles it up and pleads to this friends to come back, but none of them do. He kneels down over Thor's shattered corpse and feels deep sorrow within as he is ashamed for going back to his old ways.
Footsteps in the snow are heard as Kratos continues to kneel with his head down in sadness; he doesn't car if it is friend or foe, he just wishes his son was alive. We see Atreus' hand pat Kratos on the shoulder.
"You did it father. You killed Thor."
Kratos looks up to see his son standing there with bewildered amusement on his face. He never died from Thor; he used his powers of illusion and transformation to convince everyone in Niflheim that he died, and he used those same powers to trick Kratos and the gang.
"Atreus... how?" Kratos grabs his son by the shoulders but has no idea what to say.
"Father listen... all those years of you sending me out hunting... I've been practicing my magic. With both Greek god and Giant blood, I'm capable of all kinds of things. While you slept, I left illusions of myself in my bed so you'd never know, but I went into Tyr's temple many times and read just about everything there was about you; how you killed the old god of war, all the other gods, and destroyed Olympus."
Kratos releases his grip from his son, anger stewing within. "Get to the point, boy."
"You would never tell me how dangerous you really were, so I figured it out myself. I also understood that nothing could make you as angry as when you're afraid for my life! This was the only way to get you to kill Thor after all he did to the Gia-"
"HOW DARE YOU TRICK ME LIKE THIS! EVERYONE IN GREECE DID THE SAME; YOU THINK IT WISE TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS? FOLLOW IN **MY** FOOTSTEPS?!"
Kratos suddenly stops shouting; his anger instantly switched to sadness as he realizes his son is on a path of vengeance just like he was many years ago in Greece. He's heartbroken that his own son would manipulate him like this.
"I... I should have taken you out of these lands after we spread your mother's ashes... I was a fool to think you could live well here..."
Kratos starts to walk away form his son; he looks into the sky with tears in his eyes and a crack in his voice.
"I failed you... Faye... I failed to stop our son from becoming a monster like me."
Kratos starts walking away; Atreus screams for him to come back.
"You got YOUR vengeance all those years ago, now what about mine? What about mother's? Our entire race is dead because of the Aesir, and you're just going to walk away?!"
Kratos continues to walk until an incoming snow storm swallows him out of sight; he needs time away from his son to get his head clear, and to avoid being manipulated again.
Atreus breaks down crying next to Thor's smashed body; Kratos left Mjolnir there, so Atreus starts kicking at it in his own frustration and rage. Odin appears with his Ravens and looks at Atreus in pity. The boy stops crying for a moment and tries to pick up the hammer, which he successfully does, summoning a deep strength that he inherited from his father.
"Ah calm down Loki. That's mighty impressive, you tricking your dad into killing Thor. You know, I could use a man of your talent in my court, even if you don't have the mask."
Atreus thinks to himself and how he can trick Odin and destroy Asgard from the inside through the years, but Odin is aware of Atreus and his plot. He just plans on using the kid as bait to get the mask from Kratos. Atreus agrees and is teleported away with Odin by raven.
Brok was watching the whole conversation. He teleports to Kratos and finds him preparing a ship that could carry him and Atreus away from the Norse lands and to parts unknown. Brok tells Kratos about Atreus willingly going with Odin to Asgard.
"Brok, do you know of any way at all to get into Asgard? An secrets only a dwarf would know?"
"No."
"Then... the only way in... is Ragnarok."
Screen goes black. Text pops up and says "THE END BEGINS" signifying that this game is over and a part three is on the way.
Bro idk how but that was such amazing writing
Make more
@@grandpakfcchickenbucket507 This is what I was really hoping they would go for if they made a trilogy. Loki needs to spend time in Asgard to match the mythology, as well as many other things. Kratos needs to learn that sometimes war is necessary for the betterment of many others. In Greece, he fought for revenge. In Viking lands, he would fight for love and freedom. He is the God of War whether he likes it or not, but he needs to learn that sometimes war really is the only way.
But when I learned about a year ago that the Viking area was only getting two games, my expectations were entirely shattered. I personally did not like Ragnarok because many parts of the story felt very rushed and many parts were dragged for much too long. Don't even get me started on how the game play annoyed me in this one compared to every other God of War game. I feel like 2018 had some really good setup for things like what I typed above, but Ragnarok gave us a story that was very vanilla and safe, like it was a movie that the whole family could enjoy.
Lmao an intense battle? Dude Kratos would crush thors skull like a fucking fortune cookie
Pity? Doesn't sound like Odin to have pity on someone else.
Kratos would of lost it if it wasn’t for Ingrid
Odin cared nothing about anyone. Not even his own children and grandchildren. Damn shame he found out too late.
He did care stop it. He said he saved thrudd which he did, and he gave her the hammer although it was still deceiving
@@christianhenry4173 He didn't "give" her the hammer, he flung her into a mountain with the hammer intending to basically make her the next Thor; his next murderer and enforcer. Odin only ever cared about himself.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 wrong no he didn't. The enchantment didn't kill her so he basically saved his grand daughter in a cruel way.
@@christianhenry4173 If only so he could use her later. Let's not kid around for what Odin intended for Thrud; he wanted to take her and use her like he used Thor.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 ok he did make sure to keep Thrudd away from family drama. It was hinted by Heimdall her uncle that She was the protected one of the family. Thor even made sure to be protective of his daughter. Yes Odin was a dick but he did make sure to keep Thrudd out of the family fight that has nothing to do with kratos either. The only reason kratos got involved was because of Atreus as Loki, and Faye protecting her family and remaining giants
I bet Odin scolding Thor and sif right now
But he had to go pretend to be Tyr.
My guess he would outright pissed amd tell the valkyries that are present to put Sif under some sort of house arrest or something and tell thor from now on he will be listening to Him down to the letter from now on
Kratos actually said "thank you"!? 😂
When odin says "NOOOO" you can already see the anxiety of him
Thor: You killed my sons,sleep in their beds
Turn my father against me
My daughter
Loki; how could I turn your father against you when your father already despises you, you're an embarrassment to him
(Laughs)
Look at little Odin jr gonna cry?
2:33
I don't think people are getting it. The title's misleading. Sif didn't want Thor to go at Atreus, she wanted him to confront Odin for sending members of her family on suicide missions. They lost Magni, Modi, and Baldur to Kratos, Thor was technically already dying when he got cut by the venom imbued axe, Heimdall was now dead (Thank God), and Thrud nearly died several times.
Thor just decided to vent his anger on the one person who was actually trying to do some good...albeit in a bad way, but still.
Thor:Turn my father against me
Me: No ThOr your father was against everyone this entire time Atreus was right and I’m sad you only learned it until it was too late
Finally somenone said it Thor is such a hypocrite
@@mateuszkrowicki3323 He's also being manipulated by his own father. Sadly, this happens in real life, too. It's what makes Thor's tale, in some ways, a tragedy.
As anybody noticed that Odin sold himself by say that we should slip under his know and use the mask of knowledge
I'd love to see other scenario where atreus got killed and kratos went rage crazed, pulling aesirs heads of their shoulders, bashing their heads to pulp, gouging their eyes off, bring doom to all 9 realm as he did with greek before and move on to egypt 🤣
Imagine he forgot what to say
It is interesting to think
Was sifs speech wanting Thor to betray Odin or to kill Atreus
Betray Odin
Definitely betray Odin. She doesn’t even mention Atreus to Thor.
I mean both she never bothered to stop killing that boi
Both.
Betray Odin or maybe both.
Ngl if thor never followed odin's order, thor would be a great drunk uncle to atreus.
The thing is? At least even though Odin was using Kratos and Atreus as pets and although he is a master manipulator, he didn't blame Atreus for Heimdall's death. He at least blames Heimdall's death on both Heimdall and Kratos themselves. Heimdall for his ego and anger to Kratos for giving him mercy and to Kratos for killing Heimdall.
Ingrid: you're welcome everyone.
Thor: oh giant talking sword, what fate would have been brought if I killed him?
Ingrid: *points at a ps2* play that, then come back to me
The fear in odins voice he knew what would happen if thor killed atreus
To think thor *A L M O S T* got to see the god of war he was after
Imagine if Atreus wasn’t saved in time and imagine the grief and fury of Kratos. He’d probably head to Asgard on his own and slaughter every living thing in the realm and wiping out the Aesir in an hour or two. Thor gets the Kratos he wanted to see as Kratos picks up Mjolnir and beats him to death with it
It is admittedly a little weird what Sif is trying to do here. It's clear when she's talking to Thor, she's referring to *Odin*, not Atreus... but not only does she not really do anything when Thor points his aggression at Atreus, but then what was her goal anyway in trying to arrest Atreus here? I wish we could've possibly seen her more during the post game and get some answers as to what was going on in her head here because it's all just a bit confusing to me. Sure, we could blow it off as simply resentment due to Magni and Modi's deaths, but then that resentment is seemingly gone later
At this point in the story, Sif clearly hates Atreus. Let's not forget, Atreus was the one who stabbed Modi to death in the end. All she sees when she looks at him is the murderer of her son.
I'm glad I came to watch this, for some reason I thought I saw Odin's staff block Mjolnir.
I’m going to be honest Lady Sif is let’s just say a hypocrite never apologize to Her daughter or Atreus didn’t help her husband change some random gods had to help Thor change and random I say because not many know who Kratos is or Loki
Yeah, Sif was making a lot of double standards throughout. She blames Thor for ruining her relationship with her daughter when she is thf one refusing to support her. She gives Atreus the finger when he tries to help her understand what she's doing to her relationship. She does nothing to try and improve her relationship with her family, yet she goes and blames other people for her problems.
She also moved on quickly after he died let's you know Santa Monica viewed her as a blonde ready to take advantage of the situation.
@@jorienwachukwu466 Figures.
When I look at Sif I see Hamster eating banana. I don’t know why…
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Bro???
Look at the back of her head. LMFAO
I can see what's happening and they don't have a clue,
They'll start a war and here's the bottom line the Gods will all die too,
Ze sweet carress of midnight and howling everywhere,
And with all this dramatic atmosphere disasters in the air.
This is when she lost faith in him
Atreus did nothing wrong but Thor sons started his bully
Things that I imagine would happen if Thor actually did kill Atreus:
1) Upon hearing of Atreus getting killed, Kratos screaming so loudly that it can be heard in all 9 realms and going into a permanent state of Spartan Rage.
2) Kratos going to Asgard and destroying the great wall.
3) Kratos absolutely massacring every single person who's even remotely related to Thor including ripping Thrud's head off right in front of Thor.
4) Kratos crushing Mjolnir with his bare hands.
5) Kratos killing himself after he's done with Asgard because he has absolutely nothing left to live for.
Atreus is pretty much the fail safe, he is killed and then Kratos murders an entire Pantheon again.
Kratos won't really have any reason to hold back his strength anymore.
i love how so many people are saying odin told thor to stand down and the NOOOO was cause he feared he would ged OG god of war kratos, when the actaul reason is...
spoilers:
later on its revealed that only loki/atreus is the one who can use the mask to look into the tear and get odin his precious "answers". if thor had killed loki, the mask and rift would have become useless, and all of odins work would have been for NOTHING
really didn't expect Thor to try and kill a giant
like that wasn't what his character is all about
What gets bigger the more u take away yh i got it a cup of water the more u take it away the more it gets bigger
Hole
When u think about it it's sifs fault for brokk dieing
Thor found the fastest way to destroy Asgard.
Sif pulled a Jada pinkett 😂😂😂
You all think Kratos would have gone berserker if Atreus died, but I think he would have just succumbed to depression instead.
*Thor successfully killed Atreus*
Mimir: Freya, LET'S GET THE F**K OUTTA THIS REALM!!!!
In the distance, you hear, “THOOOOOOR!”
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If thor kills atreus his gonna have the same fate as poseidon
Had thor killed atreus, kratos would unleash the greek version of ragnarok the next 2 seconds.
Yo is that Elena as Sif??
yea
Wich Elena you mean?
@@desperado9558 Elena from the uncharted series
Same voice actor
I want a dlc where loki dies here, kratos goes mad and smashes down the walls of asgard alone then faces the Aesir himself.
So without Ingrid it's pretty much his timing would've killed him💀
I think thor faked it because theres no way that sword couldve stopped mjornir
What gets bigger the more you take away is comments.
Why is the voice acting in this game so "off"? They should sound Scandinavian, instead Sif, Atreus, etc all just sound like modern day Americans. It's so disconcerting in every scene.
Because the game was developed and everything was recorded in southern California. Also: GoW has a primarily english speaking audience; there are only so many Scandinavian actors that are comfortable performing in multiple languages.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 Skyrim pulled it off at a fraction of the budget.
No excuse.
They could also, crazy idea so bear with me on this, have asked the actors to pretend and not just use their normal speaking voices.
Everyone here acting like Atreus dying would have been the end of the gods. Need I remind you that Kratos' first fight with a god in this game resulted in him getting his skull caved in and only surviving because his opponent willed it? Not all gods are made equal, and if you say he was holding back, so was Thor. But it would have been something to see, regardless of how it goes down.
Kratos beat Thor on their next fight, though, and this time Kratos would be in full Ghost of Sparta mode.
@@ElvenRaptor With new weapons made by the dwarfs to make him stronger, and aganst a Thor who just came from battling Jormungandr, yes.