Canon R5 plus Canon 600mm 4.0 III for Wildlife. Once you tried Animal Eye Autofocus, you don’t want any camera without it any longer. What a great help, simply super!!!! For me the time of DSLR is over.
Wish you also compared the Canon 100-400mm II on the Canon R6 using a Canon RF EF adapter. Works great. Also instead of eye detection, try animal detection on those fast moving birds. Works surprisingly good. Only use eye detection on shots that are close enough for the eye to be detected. Nice video!
Well, what about trying out the Sony A1? Which besides all the other superior specs has a very nice feature: You can select a few shots from a series and delete the rest with just one click.
Great review. I always say, save your money on new cameras and lenses and spend the money on going on safari. I'm still using the Version I of the 100-400.
I have the original 1-4 too, I sent it to Canon to be tested/calibrated years ago just after I bought it, there was a big difference after. I think the trombone style of the Mk1 is prone to it banging as it moves from 100 to 400 if you have the locking collar set too loose. I think this causes issues and is the source of all the “soft lens” reports out there, especially when compared to the 400/5.6 prime. I’m not saying it’s better than, or equal too the 400 prime, just not the night and day as claimed by some. My zoom definitely improved after I had it back from Canon, and I used to set the locking collar tight, effectively making it a 400 prime. If I was doing birds in flight I’d loosen the collar off ( this is where the trombone style shines in locating fast moving birds against a featureless sky ) then re-tighten it back afterwards. The 400 prime focuses very fast though, but has a much longer minimum focus distance then the zoom, all things a photographer needs to consider. Canon need to offer this as a modern 500mm/5.6 like Nikon have with their PF. Nikon also have an ( excuse me if I’m not quite correct ) 80-400 and the 200-500 too, a great line up for wildlife guys. The 100-500 is F7.1 at 500mm, that doesn’t tempt me from my Mk1 500/4 IS, which is still phenomenal 😎
I have the 70-200 2.8 RF and can’t stand the white lens hood. It marks so easy. I also went the R5 for the 18.7mp crop sensor mode. So the 100-400 II might be a better choice but my 70-300 seems to do the trick for larger animals.
Over-shooting is only an issue initially. After a couple of weeks, you learn the rhythm of the camera and can manage much less useless photos. I only have the problem of getting 2 photos when I want one now. I shoot exclusively in 20 fps mode and now love the completely silent shutter on my R5. Initially that wasn't the case, but I got used to it quickly. .
Sorting the photos by file size can make looking through the photos much easier, because with similar background and the same ISO photos that are out of focus have a smaller file size because of the way image compression (even at RAW level) works. At least the smaller 70% will not be in focus and the photos with the largest file size have a good chance of being perfectly sharp.
Thank You very much for the video and the great comparison Villiers. I’ve recently traded in my 5Dmk3 for an R6. Still deciding on the 100-500 lens though. Especially because of the price 😏
Hi, what are the fixings that are clamping the bars where the gimbal heads are mounted. I know what I want but don't know the name for it. Can you help.
I can tell you from experience it works great, even when using a 1.4 or 2x. The focusing doesn't miss a beat. Maybe a half beat with the 2x, but you hardly notice.
Enjoyed your video. Do you think the R5 would do better with the greater megapixels with the 100-00? How would the R5 do with the 100-400 mkii, with being able to crop? Thank you.
I actually heard that the r6 has a better autofocus in certain modes. If I could move to any camera right now it would be the A1 with their 200-600mm lens.
I own a R5. At higher iso, eg 12600 and above, the cRAW does not denoise well. I use Canon DPP, and the 16bit tiff output from DPP is 260MB regarless whether you shot on RAW or cRAW. cRAW ia definitely lossy, the fine noise grain detail is gone, making denoising difficult.
I switched from the 5D IV and 1Dx Mk II to the R5. It's really no contest. The R5/R6 have many advantages. Two of the biggest are eye focus and nearly silent electronic shutter. There are tons of instances where wildlife is distracted by shutter sounds. For sure budget is a consideration too; one can certainly not ignore that. But if you were to decide from scratch for wildlife photography, it's easily the mirrorless for the win IMO. YMMV of course. Nice review as well.
What about the EVF lag? Does it work at the speed of light like OVF on the latest mirrorles cameras? If the answer is no; this new-tech is unsuitable for photography of fast action.
@@TheSafariExpert, I've seen all the EVFs of latest mirrorless cameras (A1, R3 and Z9). None of those is as fast as the speed of light i.e., OVF. They won't ever be either.
@@quazisanjeed6395, it seems like you have made your mind up about mirrorless, and that’s okay. But, you will be missing out in all the amazing features that they offer, which is a big loss if you ask me.
@@TheSafariExpert thank you for your opinion. I shoot wildlife a lot and few other genre as well as a hobbyist. The extra features of mirrorless cameras didn't impress me as those are not indispensable for me. For exanple, animal eye AF. In reality, the beauty of any bird or mammal is present on its body or wings, not the eyes. Therefore, I don't need that feature. If I had that on my cameras, I would turn it off. Can you tell me why I should spend/waste money on new-tech that I don't need? And why shouldn't I spend it for another African safari instead to shoot that fascinating action of a Cheetah chasing its prey! I have no problens with people using mirrorless cameras. Just do not agree when they suggest those are better for my purposes as well. Because they aren't.
@@quazisanjeed6395, it’s hard to change your mind when it seems like you’ve made it up already, but I agree that it’s not necessary to change and spend money on new gear that already works for you. What I can say, though, is that the new mirrorless cameras have faster focussing, higher burst rates and less noise in low light, which (at least for me) has made the switch worth it. I challenge you to have an open mind about mirrorless cameras. Perhaps one day you will own and use one and say, wow, this new technology is actually better than the older cameras.
I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses include a Canon 300 f4 Prime and Sigma 150-600 Zoom). I am 99% sure I want to move to mirrorless but am torn (agonizing is more accurate) between the R6 or spending another $1400+ (plus more for CFe cards and a CFe reader) for the R5. My biggest concern is having 10MP less with the R6 compared to the 5D4 and whether the additional MP of the R5 is worth the rather hefty additional expense (remember it's not just the additional $1400 for the camera, but also the added expense of using CFe cards compared to SD cards). I know that more pixels on the R5 means I can crop in more, but in practical real-life situations, how often would that be an issue and how much difference will it really make in practical terms. Of course I wish the R6 had just a tad more MP (like even 24), which would make the decision a little easier. But going down to 20Mp from 30MP is a hard pill to swallow, if only psychologically, but at the same time justifying more than $1400 + CFe cards costs for the R5 is also psychologically difficult. I guess the real question would be how much I can still crop in with the R6 before seeing any noticeable degradation of IQ?
@The Safari Expert I have the 6D MkII + 70D and 100-400 II + Sigma 150-600 Sports. Both setups have great quality and I even love the grainy high ISO 70D pictures. But the problem has always been the focus. I lost too many perfect pictures due to focus issues. I like the 100-400 quality but it really lacks zoom. Sigma has enough zoom and the quality at 600 is very good despite all the derogatory comments on the internet. But Sigma size and weight are the deal-breakers, it's really hard to move around with that bazooka. I do lots of hiking but I took my 150-600 only once. The idea of having 500mm (700 with 1.4x extender) in a small body, more stabilization, the same cropped quality as a 70D, and a very good focus system seems to be a game-changer for me. I'll be moving to R5 + 100-500 soon.
If I upgrade from a 5d MkIII to an R6, can I still use (cannot afford to change both at same time) my EF 100-400mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 L IS, or EF 24 - 105mm 1:4 L IS USM, or EF 16 - 35mm 1:4 L IS USM. 85% of my Images are Wildlife etc Thnx. Appreciate your counsel/input.
The only problem I have with these comparisons is how cost seems to be irrelevant in their conclusion. The 100-500 costs the same as the 5DIV + 100-400 is ii combined. Obviously the RF series will be better, but at £2k more for a setup that most people won't have it's too much to swallow. As a point of interest, anyone that does own a 5DIV could opt for a direct trade for a new 90D which has much better reach and a faster FPS. Yes it's only an APS sensor, but it's about getting the shots not the gear.
but it's about getting the shots not the gear. --------- That is correct, but dont expect the major youtube influencers to say that, as it is 'bad for business'.
Like so many videos I just LOVE, I shared this and forgot to "like" it or say something. The clarity of those pix, the pytilia and GB bunting, is just totally unreal. Thank you !!! Now you can go find one of those crimson shrikes while you're up ;-)
Regarding the noise you have over 3200isos with the 5D you should try to edit some of your shots in DXO photolab5 elite edition, the noise reduction is really good (deep prime). There is a 30 days trial version available.
@@TheSafariExpert you should try gigapixel. I have a 1300d and even though it's main job is to increase pixels it also eliminates noise and does so really well!
Wow amazing bro..I am huge fan of telephoto lences..both are amazing cameras.i love wildlife photography and vediography.i planing to buy used canon 90 d ..what is your openion about canon 90 d..with 70 to 300 mm lens?
Yes! I have it, and I love it. And honestly, I hate that people pin the “entry level” title on stuff that has fewer bells and whistles. Because the fancier the camera, the easier it is to use because the camera does all the work for you. Takes a SKILLED photographer to effectively use a more basic camera, not the other way around. The “entry level” title is purely based on price point, and not skill level. Smarter camera = dumber photographer😉 In response to your post, I think the 90D is a bitchin’ camera for its price.
@@JUSTJOHN254 I'm not sure I fully understand your comment. But if your camera "disagrees" with you, it's likely something you're doing wrong, and it's not the camera's fault at all. Regarding a fluid workflow, there is nothing a "basic" camera lacks that should inhibit your workflow, at least to a point where you would lose the job.... provided you know what you're doing. Which is my point exactly.
@@JUSTJOHN254 Again, it's only "entry level" when it comes to price. Any experienced photographer knows that what you see with your eyes is not always what you get out of the camera. In fact, it's one of the first things you should learn about photography. If you want to see exactly what an image looks like before you take it, any smartphone could do that for you. Would you consider a smartphone a "professional" camera because it has that ability?
@@JUSTJOHN254 "The term professional camera is no tantamount to your photography skills but the ability of cameras in that category to handle situations that would trouble entry level cameras" - I completely agree with this. My original point was merely expressing my hate that those terms are used because they are misleading. No one's trying to re-invent anything, and no one is saying the R5 is the same as the 2000D. But then YOU come along and START this argument against my opinion. We are all entitled to an opinion. But if you come in and argue against my opinion, I will argue back. Don't like arguing? Then don't start one.
I’m a 7Dc shooter, been waiting for an upgrade for years. If the R7 doesn’t appear soon my patience will be gone and my 500/4 will be swapped for an A9 with their 200-600, altogether a better lighter set up..........
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
Hi Villiers , have you ever tried to use 100-400mm mk ii with 1,4x or 2x teleconvertor/s on R6? , i want to know how the focusing area and focusing speed are affected.
I have this combo with the EF1.4iii and the focus area remains as big as without the extender. Heard this also applies on the EF2x. On the 100-500 the area does seem to get reduced with RF1.4x and even more with RF2x. but it remains larger than the focus area on the RF600/11 and RF800/11. Focus speed reduces a bit with the extenders. I'm assuming the 100-500 reduces the focus area in order to maintain a higher focus speed and the EF glass may lack the electronics to agree such strategy with the camera. For a larger and slower bird like a blue heron, the EF compromise might allow better composition without clipping the wings, for swallows the RF logic can be better.
You can book the hides by visiting Kuname Lodge as part of the Karongwe Collection. It used to belong to Indlovu River Lodge, but is now under new ownership.
Can someone help me about the canon raw format. what is differents which in raw and cr3 raw format? i'm Canon Rp user and this is my first mirrorless dslr camera =D
No. Not if I have to use it with the 100-400. But, if I could afford the 100-500 RF, I would consider it. I’ll be testing that combo in various places later this year to make a call.
@@TheSafariExpert i have exactly this decision to make. Isnt it a valid first step to swap the 5d to r6 and swap 100-400 later? Do i miss something Important? Btw: great Video
I’m so torn! I have the canon 600mm f4 version 2 and the 100-400mm. It seems like this new zoom would be a great in between lens. My 100-400mm is very new though and the 100-500 is nearly impossible to obtain due to supply chain issues. But wow, I think that 100-500 is a truly great lens. I can’t imagine a better safari lens too.
Gary, I'll post a review on the 100-500mm RF soon(ish) - I've just tested it for two weeks in Botswana. I must say, that extra 100mm makes a huge difference!
No matter which bird you have locked on, press the last button on the top right of the camera (next to the asterisk) which will place a double arrow on that eye, then use the joystick to move left or right through the other birds.
In a nutshell I don’t see any advantage of a mirrorless vs mirrored . It’s the other technologies the new Canons have in focusing that have the upper hand. If the older DSLR bodies had the same focus technology there would be no advantage of the type systems .
Mirrorless all the way if you are on Nikon. I use a Z7 and the new 70-200 f2.8S lens with 1.4 lens gives up to 420mm F4 on DX... I shoot Single shot as I dont do Cheetah chases etc even when I had the D3S .. That RF lens is f7.1 to me is like Midnight down a coal mine ..dont even go there with the 600mm f11 !! Never had the need for Eye tracking >> the 5D MK IV would be the one I would use if I was Canon >> faster lens for one anda Proven track record
The problem with any autofocus system is that there are many different settings and modes and people get lazy leaving to much to the camera. If with a DSLR you shoot the lion shown in the video, we all know that single focus point is the best option, you can focus on the eye, eliminate the "grab the Grass" situation and produce the stunning images. Withe eye detection AF, my reference is Sony as I have not used the Canon yet, same situation. People think it is magical, yet it is but also now flawless. It also grabs the grass, It also grabs onto the leopards skin when it looks like an eye. There is no replacement for camera skills and understanding how your camera and lens perform in different situations. Yes the eye detection and new focus systems are AI driven but as said not flawless. I recently used a Nikon D6 and the focus speed is something else. No it does not have eye, AF but except for fast flying small birds, was able to nail the eye with normal wildlife images every time even big birds like Herons, eagles etc in flight. Yes Eye AF is magical, however, not a fail proof system. I am sure the Canon 1Dxii is that same as the D6.
Why do you keep comparing these cameras when you are convinced that mirrorless is superior. Let everyone have their choices too. I find a dslr too comfortable in ergonomics and optical viewfinder. For all that investment very few people now a days are ready to pay good money inspite of delivering good photography.
Villiam, there are MANY more wildlife photographers that use 5D4's than 6D's and the 5D4 and R6 are more comparable when it comes to price. These are two cameras that my clients are constantly weighing up against each other. If you ask me, the 5D4 and R5 are not a good comparison.
I think that the more technology goes on, the more boring and obvious photography becomes. Let's be honest, we have reached the point where the camera does the photograph and not the photographer. Before, skill was enough, now eye tracking, 2000 autofocus points, etc etc ... Yes, it is true, technology can help solve many problems, but I am of the opinion that in this way you lose the sensations that a "difficult" shot gives you, the satisfaction that photography can give you is then lost. This is just my point of view, of course.
Yeah my R6 back focused constantly. I sent it back to Canon. The sensor was misaligned. Got it back and it’s a lot better, but still back focuses a lot. It would be better to be able to adjust it. Never had focus issues on the 5DIV. So far, you’re the only one I’ve seen that recognizes how important that is.
@@talkingebikes True but it is good for the long range shots and if you shot in full mode you would have to crop to that size anyway to get the image close if shooting at distance.
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is cinematic videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
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Canon R5 plus Canon 600mm 4.0 III for Wildlife. Once you tried Animal Eye Autofocus, you don’t want any camera without it any longer. What a great help, simply super!!!! For me the time of DSLR is over.
Wish you also compared the Canon 100-400mm II on the Canon R6 using a Canon RF EF adapter. Works great.
Also instead of eye detection, try animal detection on those fast moving birds.
Works surprisingly good. Only use eye detection on shots that are close enough for the eye to be detected.
Nice video!
Thanks for this comment 😊 shows exactly as expected. Canon Bif eye detection can't match the Olympus om-d e-m1x.
Do you mean turning eye detection off?
I'll stick with my Canon 5D mark IV!! And like someone else said, use the money for a nice photography trip! Great video also!
Great advice!!
I'd like to see the f4 500mm Sigma and the 120-300mm 2.8 sports. great video
Well, what about trying out the Sony A1? Which besides all the other superior specs has a very nice feature: You can select a few shots from a series and delete the rest with just one click.
Great review. I always say, save your money on new cameras and lenses and spend the money on going on safari. I'm still using the Version I of the 100-400.
Best money you'll ever spend ;)
Bro I salute you for that statement
I still use that lens too cuz Im broke. But Iv tried the 300 mm 2.8 L and there is an insane difference in quality.
I have the original 1-4 too, I sent it to Canon to be tested/calibrated years ago just after I bought it, there was a big difference after. I think the trombone style of the Mk1 is prone to it banging as it moves from 100 to 400 if you have the locking collar set too loose. I think this causes issues and is the source of all the “soft lens” reports out there, especially when compared to the 400/5.6 prime. I’m not saying it’s better than, or equal too the 400 prime, just not the night and day as claimed by some.
My zoom definitely improved after I had it back from Canon, and I used to set the locking collar tight, effectively making it a 400 prime. If I was doing birds in flight I’d loosen the collar off ( this is where the trombone style shines in locating fast moving birds against a featureless sky ) then re-tighten it back afterwards. The 400 prime focuses very fast though, but has a much longer minimum focus distance then the zoom, all things a photographer needs to consider.
Canon need to offer this as a modern 500mm/5.6 like Nikon have with their PF. Nikon also have an ( excuse me if I’m not quite correct ) 80-400 and the 200-500 too, a great line up for wildlife guys. The 100-500 is F7.1 at 500mm, that doesn’t tempt me from my Mk1 500/4 IS, which is still phenomenal 😎
Couldn’t agree more!! Go to the field is the way to get photos!
I use the R6 with the Sigma 150 - 600mm lens and I am very happy with the results
That's great to hear, Barry.
I have the 70-200 2.8 RF and can’t stand the white lens hood. It marks so easy.
I also went the R5 for the 18.7mp crop sensor mode. So the 100-400 II might be a better choice but my 70-300 seems to do the trick for larger animals.
Over-shooting is only an issue initially. After a couple of weeks, you learn the rhythm of the camera and can manage much less useless photos. I only have the problem of getting 2 photos when I want one now. I shoot exclusively in 20 fps mode and now love the completely silent shutter on my R5. Initially that wasn't the case, but I got used to it quickly.
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Thank you Villiers. Another great review. And those hides are so awesome 🤩
Thanks so much ☺️🙏🏻
When comparing noise between a 30mp and a 21mp camera, one should first bring the photos to the same size. Only then you have a fair comparison.
Had/have each of these setups. I agree the R6 and 100-500mm is superior. Just subscribed and I will check out your other vids!
Enjoy, Rudi!
How about battery life betwen those two cameras? Canon improve work in new battery LP-E6HN?
Michal, I'm very impressed with the Canon R6's battery life - I have never been able to drain it completely in one day on safari.
Wow. I wonder what the airspeed velocity of that unladed swallow was. They are hard to photograph.
Impossible! 😝
Sorting the photos by file size can make looking through the photos much easier, because with similar background and the same ISO photos that are out of focus have a smaller file size because of the way image compression (even at RAW level) works. At least the smaller 70% will not be in focus and the photos with the largest file size have a good chance of being perfectly sharp.
This is only valid if the whole picture is blurred
If just the wrong parts are blurred, it is a different picture.
Wow, the production of this video was awesome!! Keep it up!
Thanks 🙏🏻😎
Thank You very much for the video and the great comparison Villiers. I’ve recently traded in my 5Dmk3 for an R6. Still deciding on the 100-500 lens though. Especially because of the price 😏
Rajen, great to hear from you! The R6 was a great purchase! I really liked that extra 100mm of the 100-500mm RF lens, but yes - it's not cheap!
Hi, what are the fixings that are clamping the bars where the gimbal heads are mounted. I know what I want but don't know the name for it. Can you help.
Great video! Great pictures! Congratulations!
Which is better, r6 or 5d iv? For your information, I am a sports photographer, and I want your advice
Could you do a review of the 100-400mm Mark II on the canon R6?
Perhaps later this year 👍🏻😎
I can tell you from experience it works great, even when using a 1.4 or 2x. The focusing doesn't miss a beat. Maybe a half beat with the 2x, but you hardly notice.
hi , can you fix the RF 100 - 500 to 5d mrk iv ??? is there r adapters to do that ?
wondering how you wanted to compare two different cameras with two different lens ?
What do you look at when composing a photo? The rear panel, the viewfinder, ...?
I usually look through the view-finder.
Enjoyed your video. Do you think the R5 would do better with the greater megapixels with the 100-00? How would the R5 do with the 100-400 mkii, with being able to crop?
Thank you.
M, the R5’s extra mega pixels will be an advantage over the R6, but not much more than that if you ask me.
I actually heard that the r6 has a better autofocus in certain modes. If I could move to any camera right now it would be the A1 with their 200-600mm lens.
I own the R5 and shoot in cRAW. The files are much smaller but you don’t lose out on image quality!
That’s great advice, Jason 🙏🏻
I own a R5. At higher iso, eg 12600 and above, the cRAW does not denoise well. I use Canon DPP, and the 16bit tiff output from DPP is 260MB regarless whether you shot on RAW or cRAW.
cRAW ia definitely lossy, the fine noise grain detail is gone, making denoising difficult.
I switched from the 5D IV and 1Dx Mk II to the R5. It's really no contest. The R5/R6 have many advantages. Two of the biggest are eye focus and nearly silent electronic shutter. There are tons of instances where wildlife is distracted by shutter sounds. For sure budget is a consideration too; one can certainly not ignore that. But if you were to decide from scratch for wildlife photography, it's easily the mirrorless for the win IMO. YMMV of course. Nice review as well.
I agree, Henrik - if you’re starting out now, and you can afford it, mirrorless is the way to go
Which Camera is Best Your Experience Lotzz ..? I need Ur Suggestion Sir 🤝😚
You better go with the canon 1Dx iii which has the same megapixel as R6 , I have shot with Canon eos R6 before it was great
I'm planning on getting a mirrorless full frame camera, got any recommendations?!!
Hemanth, I'd suggest going for the Canon R6. I just bought one and I LOVE it.
What about the EVF lag? Does it work at the speed of light like OVF on the latest mirrorles cameras? If the answer is no; this new-tech is unsuitable for photography of fast action.
My R6’s EVF is just as good as my old 5DmkIV’s OVF 💪🏻
@@TheSafariExpert, I've seen all the EVFs of latest mirrorless cameras (A1, R3 and Z9). None of those is as fast as the speed of light i.e., OVF. They won't ever be either.
@@quazisanjeed6395, it seems like you have made your mind up about mirrorless, and that’s okay. But, you will be missing out in all the amazing features that they offer, which is a big loss if you ask me.
@@TheSafariExpert thank you for your opinion.
I shoot wildlife a lot and few other genre as well as a hobbyist. The extra features of mirrorless cameras didn't impress me as those are not indispensable for me. For exanple, animal eye AF. In reality, the beauty of any bird or mammal is present on its body or wings, not the eyes. Therefore, I don't need that feature. If I had that on my cameras, I would turn it off.
Can you tell me why I should spend/waste money on new-tech that I don't need? And why shouldn't I spend it for another African safari instead to shoot that fascinating action of a Cheetah chasing its prey!
I have no problens with people using mirrorless cameras. Just do not agree when they suggest those are better for my purposes as well. Because they aren't.
@@quazisanjeed6395, it’s hard to change your mind when it seems like you’ve made it up already, but I agree that it’s not necessary to change and spend money on new gear that already works for you. What I can say, though, is that the new mirrorless cameras have faster focussing, higher burst rates and less noise in low light, which (at least for me) has made the switch worth it.
I challenge you to have an open mind about mirrorless cameras. Perhaps one day you will own and use one and say, wow, this new technology is actually better than the older cameras.
I currently have a 5D Mark IV (My tele lenses include a Canon 300 f4 Prime and Sigma 150-600 Zoom). I am 99% sure I want to move to mirrorless but am torn (agonizing is more accurate) between the R6 or spending another $1400+ (plus more for CFe cards and a CFe reader) for the R5. My biggest concern is having 10MP less with the R6 compared to the 5D4 and whether the additional MP of the R5 is worth the rather hefty additional expense (remember it's not just the additional $1400 for the camera, but also the added expense of using CFe cards compared to SD cards). I know that more pixels on the R5 means I can crop in more, but in practical real-life situations, how often would that be an issue and how much difference will it really make in practical terms. Of course I wish the R6 had just a tad more MP (like even 24), which would make the decision a little easier. But going down to 20Mp from 30MP is a hard pill to swallow, if only psychologically, but at the same time justifying more than $1400 + CFe cards costs for the R5 is also psychologically difficult. I guess the real question would be how much I can still crop in with the R6 before seeing any noticeable degradation of IQ?
@The Safari Expert I have the 6D MkII + 70D and 100-400 II + Sigma 150-600 Sports. Both setups have great quality and I even love the grainy high ISO 70D pictures. But the problem has always been the focus. I lost too many perfect pictures due to focus issues. I like the 100-400 quality but it really lacks zoom. Sigma has enough zoom and the quality at 600 is very good despite all the derogatory comments on the internet. But Sigma size and weight are the deal-breakers, it's really hard to move around with that bazooka. I do lots of hiking but I took my 150-600 only once. The idea of having 500mm (700 with 1.4x extender) in a small body, more stabilization, the same cropped quality as a 70D, and a very good focus system seems to be a game-changer for me. I'll be moving to R5 + 100-500 soon.
I think you’re going to love that combo!
Guys! do some maths! 500mm@f/7.1 or 400mm@f/5.6 both have an aperture of 70mm+/- 2mm so...
You should be able to get the shots of the swallows with the R6 and 100-500. You need to make some adjustments with the focus setup.
If I upgrade from a 5d MkIII to an R6, can I still use (cannot afford to change both at same time) my EF 100-400mm 1:4.5 - 5.6 L IS, or EF 24 - 105mm 1:4 L IS USM, or EF 16 - 35mm 1:4 L IS USM.
85% of my Images are Wildlife etc
Thnx. Appreciate your counsel/input.
Yes, you can. You’ll just need to by a small adapter, which I use as well.
What is your main/favourite camera that you use?
A Canon 5D mark IV
The only problem I have with these comparisons is how cost seems to be irrelevant in their conclusion. The 100-500 costs the same as the 5DIV + 100-400 is ii combined. Obviously the RF series will be better, but at £2k more for a setup that most people won't have it's too much to swallow. As a point of interest, anyone that does own a 5DIV could opt for a direct trade for a new 90D which has much better reach and a faster FPS. Yes it's only an APS sensor, but it's about getting the shots not the gear.
but it's about getting the shots not the gear.
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That is correct, but dont expect the major youtube influencers to say that, as it is 'bad for business'.
Amazing video. That's the information I was looking for, a real-world comparison between both setups. Thanks a lot for such valuable information.
My pleasure, Vilson 👍🏻😎
Great comparison and need to try that technique of not looking thru the EVF and hoping for the best...subscribed!
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Hi Villiers did you find the V30 memory card to be sufficient in terms of speed on the R6 especially from the photographic point of view ?
Ronald, what is the V30 memory card?
@@TheSafariExpert a memory card with the minimum write speed of 30MB/s and up to 90M /s like tbe one i saw on this video. Some are v60 v90.
Like so many videos I just LOVE, I shared this and forgot to "like" it or say something. The clarity of those pix, the pytilia and GB bunting, is just totally unreal. Thank you !!! Now you can go find one of those crimson shrikes while you're up ;-)
Regarding the noise you have over 3200isos with the 5D you should try to edit some of your shots in DXO photolab5 elite edition, the noise reduction is really good (deep prime). There is a 30 days trial version available.
I actually use Topaz DeNoise AI now, Jm, and it works perfectly!
@@TheSafariExpert you should try gigapixel. I have a 1300d and even though it's main job is to increase pixels it also eliminates noise and does so really well!
Wow amazing bro..I am huge fan of telephoto lences..both are amazing cameras.i love wildlife photography and vediography.i planing to buy used canon 90 d ..what is your openion about canon 90 d..with 70 to 300 mm lens?
I’ve heard Canon 90d is one of the best wildlife and sports cameras for entry level
Yes! I have it, and I love it. And honestly, I hate that people pin the “entry level” title on stuff that has fewer bells and whistles. Because the fancier the camera, the easier it is to use because the camera does all the work for you. Takes a SKILLED photographer to effectively use a more basic camera, not the other way around. The “entry level” title is purely based on price point, and not skill level. Smarter camera = dumber photographer😉
In response to your post, I think the 90D is a bitchin’ camera for its price.
@@JUSTJOHN254 I'm not sure I fully understand your comment. But if your camera "disagrees" with you, it's likely something you're doing wrong, and it's not the camera's fault at all. Regarding a fluid workflow, there is nothing a "basic" camera lacks that should inhibit your workflow, at least to a point where you would lose the job.... provided you know what you're doing. Which is my point exactly.
@@JUSTJOHN254 Again, it's only "entry level" when it comes to price. Any experienced photographer knows that what you see with your eyes is not always what you get out of the camera. In fact, it's one of the first things you should learn about photography. If you want to see exactly what an image looks like before you take it, any smartphone could do that for you. Would you consider a smartphone a "professional" camera because it has that ability?
@@JUSTJOHN254 "The term professional camera is no tantamount to your photography skills but the ability of cameras in that category to handle situations that would trouble entry level cameras" - I completely agree with this. My original point was merely expressing my hate that those terms are used because they are misleading. No one's trying to re-invent anything, and no one is saying the R5 is the same as the 2000D. But then YOU come along and START this argument against my opinion. We are all entitled to an opinion. But if you come in and argue against my opinion, I will argue back. Don't like arguing? Then don't start one.
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How does the "extra" 100mm affect how much more you have to turn the zoom ring?
This can be quite challenging
Eskil, I didn’t even notice it.
I’m a 7d2 shooter was waiting on 3 now I hear a R7 coming down the pipeline this year great specs a R7 an R100x 500 killer combo for wildlife 🙏
I’m a 7Dc shooter, been waiting for an upgrade for years. If the R7 doesn’t appear soon my patience will be gone and my 500/4 will be swapped for an A9 with their 200-600, altogether a better lighter set up..........
@@cerealkiller4248 I think we’ve all been waiting it’s a tough decision to keep waiting
What an awesome setup for bird photography!
Where do you sell images????
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
Hi Villiers , have you ever tried to use 100-400mm mk ii with 1,4x or 2x teleconvertor/s on R6? , i want to know how the focusing area and focusing speed are affected.
No, I have not
I have this combo with the EF1.4iii and the focus area remains as big as without the extender. Heard this also applies on the EF2x. On the 100-500 the area does seem to get reduced with RF1.4x and even more with RF2x. but it remains larger than the focus area on the RF600/11 and RF800/11.
Focus speed reduces a bit with the extenders. I'm assuming the 100-500 reduces the focus area in order to maintain a higher focus speed and the EF glass may lack the electronics to agree such strategy with the camera.
For a larger and slower bird like a blue heron, the EF compromise might allow better composition without clipping the wings, for swallows the RF logic can be better.
2 questions where is this and can I come?
You can book the hides by visiting Kuname Lodge as part of the Karongwe Collection. It used to belong to Indlovu River Lodge, but is now under new ownership.
Great video, thanks so much 👌
You should have compared with the M6ii or 90D + 100-400 + TC1.4iii. They have double the pixel density than the R6!
which is best for beginners... DSLR or mirrorless ?
just a passionate photographer question.
gangadhar, you can start on either. Decide on a budget and then buy the best camera you can afford.
@@TheSafariExpert thanks much 😁
Can someone help me about the canon raw format. what is differents which in raw and cr3 raw format? i'm Canon Rp user and this is my first mirrorless dslr camera =D
CR3 is Canon's newest RAW format. Older DSLR's will have CR2 RAW file extentions.
@@TheSafariExpert alright I see. Thankyouu👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 need to explore more about the Rp
What brand of gimballs are thoses ???
Jody, they are Gimpro gimbles
@@TheSafariExpert ok the older ones, version 1
The “danger” of shooting 20fps electronic with thr R6 is terrible rolling shutter effect with any quick movement.
Hi Villiers would you sell you 5D for R6 ?
No. Not if I have to use it with the 100-400. But, if I could afford the 100-500 RF, I would consider it. I’ll be testing that combo in various places later this year to make a call.
@@TheSafariExpert i have exactly this decision to make. Isnt it a valid first step to swap the 5d to r6 and swap 100-400 later? Do i miss something Important?
Btw: great Video
@@bluesbrother928 , yes, I would swap the 5Dmk4 for the R6 first
I’m so torn! I have the canon 600mm f4 version 2 and the 100-400mm. It seems like this new zoom would be a great in between lens. My 100-400mm is very new though and the 100-500 is nearly impossible to obtain due to supply chain issues. But wow, I think that 100-500 is a truly great lens. I can’t imagine a better safari lens too.
Gary, I'll post a review on the 100-500mm RF soon(ish) - I've just tested it for two weeks in Botswana. I must say, that extra 100mm makes a huge difference!
No matter which bird you have locked on, press the last button on the top right of the camera (next to the asterisk) which will place a double arrow on that eye, then use the joystick to move left or right through the other birds.
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Even I don't understand a single phrase he say, good job mate
were you shooting in C-RAW or RAW on the R6?
In RAW, because I wanted to test best quality.
@@TheSafariExpert Thanks, great work!
If you take videos and then capture stills from it, is that cheating?
Top Video. Thanks. Franz from Germany
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Both cameras incredible huge and so slow to reaction times due to stuck setup.
Furious Doe, these setups are most definitely not incredibly huge and they don't have slow reaction times at all.
From my experience the R6 animal eye tracking prefers to focus on the water more than the bird
In a nutshell I don’t see any advantage of a mirrorless vs mirrored . It’s the other technologies the new Canons have in focusing that have the upper hand. If the older DSLR bodies had the same focus technology there would be no advantage of the type systems .
why can't they slow down the electronic shutter 20, 15, 10 . I think Sony can !!??
Not sure, st.clair
Nice one!!!
Used both DSLR and M. now all in Sony mirrorless awesome !
The Sony cameras really are amazing 📸
The 100-400mm has far more shallow depth of field than the 100-500mm RF, it is not obvious until you compare them at the same place
Yep. But I'm poor so, I will stick to my vetust 7D and 5D3 with the bunch of lenses that I aldeady have!
90D has 10-11 fps, 32.5 mp, and eye detection.... maybe this would be a better comparisson.....😉
Richard, perhaps, but the idea here was to compare Canon’s full frame cameras 😉
It's not even a competition
Mirrorless all the way if you are on Nikon. I use a Z7 and the new 70-200 f2.8S lens with 1.4 lens gives up to 420mm F4 on DX... I shoot Single shot as I dont do Cheetah chases etc even when I had the D3S .. That RF lens is f7.1 to me is like Midnight down a coal mine ..dont even go there with the 600mm f11 !! Never had the need for Eye tracking >> the 5D MK IV would be the one I would use if I was Canon >> faster lens for one anda Proven track record
D4 is just too slow for BIF great for big slow mammals an slow AF -R6 just hope it doesn’t rain
Nikon D4 is slow! Who says that !
@@SohamDas1995 canon mk4 only shoots 7 FPS any serious bif shooter needs more
Great
The problem with any autofocus system is that there are many different settings and modes and people get lazy leaving to much to the camera. If with a DSLR you shoot the lion shown in the video, we all know that single focus point is the best option, you can focus on the eye, eliminate the "grab the Grass" situation and produce the stunning images. Withe eye detection AF, my reference is Sony as I have not used the Canon yet, same situation. People think it is magical, yet it is but also now flawless. It also grabs the grass, It also grabs onto the leopards skin when it looks like an eye. There is no replacement for camera skills and understanding how your camera and lens perform in different situations. Yes the eye detection and new focus systems are AI driven but as said not flawless. I recently used a Nikon D6 and the focus speed is something else. No it does not have eye, AF but except for fast flying small birds, was able to nail the eye with normal wildlife images every time even big birds like Herons, eagles etc in flight. Yes Eye AF is magical, however, not a fail proof system. I am sure the Canon 1Dxii is that same as the D6.
Why do you keep comparing these cameras when you are convinced that mirrorless is superior. Let everyone have their choices too. I find a dslr too comfortable in ergonomics and optical viewfinder. For all that investment very few people now a days are ready to pay good money inspite of delivering good photography.
Why compare 5d with the new 6d replacement? 🤔 6d = r6.! 5d = r5.!
For being a photographer with a big channel, you should seriously know that.
Villiam, there are MANY more wildlife photographers that use 5D4's than 6D's and the 5D4 and R6 are more comparable when it comes to price. These are two cameras that my clients are constantly weighing up against each other. If you ask me, the 5D4 and R5 are not a good comparison.
R6 is a different class of technology. they are not comparable.
They most certainly are comparable - they are both excellent full frame cameras. But, you're right - the R6 definitely has better technology.
I think that the more technology goes on, the more boring and obvious photography becomes.
Let's be honest, we have reached the point where the camera does the photograph and not the photographer.
Before, skill was enough, now eye tracking, 2000 autofocus points, etc etc ...
Yes, it is true, technology can help solve many problems, but I am of the opinion that in this way you lose the sensations that a "difficult" shot gives you, the satisfaction that photography can give you is then lost.
This is just my point of view, of course.
It certainly does get easier and easier to take great photos, Simone!
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I'm just going to say 1 MUST-HAVE item that makes 5D mark IV better than R6. MICROADJUST AF
Yeah my R6 back focused constantly. I sent it back to Canon. The sensor was misaligned. Got it back and it’s a lot better, but still back focuses a lot. It would be better to be able to adjust it. Never had focus issues on the 5DIV. So far, you’re the only one I’ve seen that recognizes how important that is.
Now i am confused. I thought focusing is done direct on the sensor on mirrorless Systems? How could you have backfocus on the r/r5/r6?
The R6 is even better for extending the lens range by changing to 1.6 ratio in the settings.
Except the pics drop to about 8mp.
@@talkingebikes True but it is good for the long range shots and if you shot in full mode you would have to crop to that size anyway to get the image close if shooting at distance.
AM here wishing i one day get a mirrorless Canon any one willing to give out one?pliiiiiiizzzzz
Zoom out for birds in flight
That's a good tip!
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Вам, коллега нужно научиться говорить кратко, ясно без ненужных лишних слов, тогда ваш ролик будет очень хорош.
Mirrorless is awful. I hate the evf and just the operation of mirrorless. Maybe im just too old school
You call the good photos "Money Makers", but who exactly is paying for photos of swallows drinking off a lake?
“Money Shots” is simply another term for “keepers” or shots to be proud of 😉
You can't compare this way... My 5DlV whit 500mm F4 ll,,, is mucht better... :)
I can, Johnny, and I did 😜
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is cinematic videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
Navita, I'm afraid that $500 is too little to buy a proper camera setup for cinematic videos. You might have to save up more first.
@@TheSafariExpert please give me an idea how much
For $500, you may be able to find a micro four thirds camera and lens second hand. Look up the Panasonic G series cameras for example.