A Protestant Learns About Orthodoxy From an Orthodox Priest
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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Here's a deep-dive conversation into what Orthodoxy is, what it isn't, where Catholicism fits into the big picture, and how it contrasts with Protestantism with Father Paul Truebenbach of Saints Peter and Paul Orthodox Church in Salt Lake City, Utah. We filmed this on a separate visit from the tour video I published last week.
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This priest needs to make his own channel, the way he describes the faith is so solid.
sounds like jordan peterson
His “channel” is, in a sense, his flock
@@activenothing6330 you know about Jonathan pageau?
He’s a buddy of Peterson’s. Very orthodox too
@@thomasbrodrecht6137 Yep! He was first to re-invigorate my effort to find out more about my ancestral faith :)
I am Athiest ex-Hindu but I really like Eastern orthodox Christianity . But I have a question I am vegan and Is it ok to be Vegan and Christian ?
I'm really considering converting to Orthodox Christianity
Here are some great Orthodox UA-cam channels:
The Orthodox Ethos
Father Spyridon
Orthodox Wisdom
Gregory Decapolite
Nicodemos Hagiorite
Same!
Same
I converted last July after a 5-year period of searching and learning. I am very grateful that I made the move into Orthodoxy. I was a Reformed Baptist for several decades prior.
I'm also considering orthodoxy may visit an orthodox mass this sunday.
Don't forget also the Orthodox brothers down in Ethiopia - God bless you all 🙏
Ethiopia the stealer of hearts God bless you brother
Have you watched jonathan pageau videos on ethiopia?
Are you albanian orthodox?
they are the most important, they guard the Arc
coptic?
they wouldn't be in Communion with Father Paul, the Ethiopians are Miaphysite and this split is even older than the one with Rome.
I am bumping against 70 years. 33 years as an Evangelical Protestant, 34 years as a Roman Catholic, and almost 3 years as an Eastern Orthodox. I feel that I have been on a journey to understanding and loving my Christian faith.
Can you share some of what led you to eastern orthodoxy as opposed to eastern catholicism?
I’m with you brother. Nondenominational Protestant most of my life, then Catholic for 4 years and now Eastern Orthodox.
I read a comment by an Orthodox Bishop that clearly explained the difference between Catholics and Orthodox. The Bishop said Catholics pray the way they think and Orthodox think the way they pray.
That’s great!
@@flisom what does that mean? Lots of traditions (including several Protestant) pray pre-written prayers so it can’t mean that. The Book of Common prayer that Anglicans use certainly train us to think true and gospel thoughts about the Lord. Many (most?) of the prayers date back to the patristic period. How is EO different/better?
@@adamsmith4195 the difference is that as Catholics change the way they think about their faith, Catholic prayers are changed to accommodate this new way of thinking. Orthodox Christians let our traditional prayers change the way we think. That is why Orthodox will tell someone to simply attend the Liturgy to learn about the Orthodox faith.
I’m part of the Romanian Orthodox Church. This made my day and it’s so nice to see someone trying to know the Orthodox faith without disdain. Christ is risen! Hristos a-inviat!
Adevărat a înviat!
He has risen indeed, Alleluia!!!!
Truly He is Risen!
I'm a Lutheran who agrees that He is risen indeed. From what Fr. Paul is saying, perhaps our Fr. Martin was 464 years late to the party.
Adevarat a Înviat
As a Catholic, the Orthodox Church has always intrigued me. I’ve always viewed them as cousins that we aren’t allowed to see because our parents are fighting.
So I would say the relationship between parishioners like I've gotten so much better because I feel like at least how we venerate and worship we have very much the same intentions. It's obviously more of the higher up issues and some deeper theological things.
A preposterous notion that insults the councils and the Holy Fathers. We Orthodox don’t agree with this assessment as it was ONE patriarchate that divided east and west. Not the other four.
Come and see a Liturgy
@@mattbellacotti not really. Preposterous even by your comment it’s seem like we are saying the same thing.
@@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine Just ignore them. Daniel has the better answer just come to the liturgy 😁😄
I am Ethiopian Orthodox Church member. I just want to say some few things about Orthodox. There are many things that the world didnt understand about Orthodoxy. JESUS CHRIST is worshiped without any limitation and fully. Everything that we do in our church has its own meaning and emphasis. We have crystal clear teaching on Trinity, Jesus Christ, salvation, Virgin Mary, Saints and so.....
Mary didn’t stay a virgin. She had other children.
As a Muslim, I find learning about Christianity interesting and this video definitely helped a lot. Thanks!
This is what the world should be like, no matter your belief, be open and kind to other beliefs
Become Christian. You likely have forefathers that were Christian anyway.
We are all brothers/sisters and should never fight against each other
As a Christian, I’m telling you the truth which is God of Jacob aka JESUS is gonna destroy Muslim nations who wants to wipe Israel. Try to know the truth
@@Watermelon-dj8be That's not very Christian of you. We are supposed to love thy neighbor as thyself. Telling someone of another faith that Jesus is gonna destroy majority-Muslim nations goes against the teachings of Jesus.
I have been a member of an Fundamentalist Evangelical church for 15 years. The sanctuary resembles a concert venue. My parents converted to Orthodoxy in their 70s. Unfortunately they don’t live in the same city as me. I have grown to love their church. I feel a much deeper connection to Christ. I will go to an orthodox service here occasionally. Unfortunately my husband is extremely fundamentalist. I know in my heart I need to pursue Orthodoxy. Pray for me.
Praying for you! 🙏❤️
The faith of the spouse can be good for the other. Attend and express your deep commitment
I say go where your heart wants to go and to where you feel called, even if it's different to your spouse. Otherwise you are being unfaithful to yourself. It doesn't mean you can't still love each other and get along.
Don't base your theology on your experience/feelings!
Orthodox is very similar to Catholic beliefs. Check out Torben Sondergard. He was Lutheran (which also has similarities to Catholicism) until he was baptized in the Holy Spirit. He then started preaching the Gospel, praying for healing and casting out demons & making other disciples. He left Denmark (if memory serves me) to seek asylum in the US when he started getting persecuted for teaching others to make disciples- preach the gospel, heal the sick, & cast out demons. He has been here for 2-3 years, making disciples here (the Last Reformation). He has now been locked up for over 3 months now on bogus charges [that he didn't find out for a long time] that can be proven false. He is now being persecuted here, in the US. His wife and kids are suffering, too. We were told the "body of Christ" will suffer persecution. It has started here in the United States.
I was baptised into the Orthodox Church last year, praying for you bro.
☦
welcome brother
Synergism (Arminianism, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy) and Calvinism are both heresies rooted in prideful human reason. In his dogmatics John Theodore Mueller writes:
"If God alone works conversion in man, then it cannot be maintained that He really desires the salvation of all men; for, actually He does not convert all. To this we reply that Holy Scripture teaches both the sola gratia and the gratia universalis; that is, God alone converts and saves sinners, and He earnestly desires to save all sinners. Both doctrines must therefore be taught side by side without any modification or qualification of either of them. It is true, if this is done, the theologian is confronted with the perplexing problem, which human reason cannot solve, "Why, then, are not all saved?" (Cur alii, alii nonf Cur alii prae aliisf) Calvinism solves the mystery by denying the universalis gratia; synergism, by denying the sola gratia, whereas the theologian who is loyal to Scripture does not attempt any solution of the mystery at all, just as little as he endeavors to solve the mysteries involved in the doctrines of the Holy Trinity, the personal union, the real presence, etc. Reason indeed argues thus: Since all men are in the same state of guilt (in eadem culpa) and only God, who earnestly desires to save all men (universalis gratia), can save sinners (sola gratia), the actual conversion of all men must needs follow. But the true theologian does not recognize reason as his principle of faith (principium cognoscendi) ; he is bound to Scrip- ture as the only source and rule of faith, which, however, does not explain this crux theologorum."
Are you a Christian though?
Is there a Orthodox Church in South Korea?
I'm an African American orthodox woman. I converted to orthodoxy 8 years ago. I'm at home in qny orthodox church. More comfortable than in African American churches.
I'm a Catholic Nun. I love my Catholic faith. And I love my Orthodox brothers and sisters. Our similarities are more than our differences. Peace in your heart🙏
I might be a monk
I am Coptic Christian, I ❤️ my Catholic brethern too and I believ in ONE Body of Chris, which is One United CHURCH❤️💒❤️
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." -- Voltaire
@@AtamMardesReddit would be that way 👉🏻🚪
Forgive me friends but if holy spirit said in us,the Byzantine empire was lost because our sins and because the rome was ready to started and to take it,so holy trinity was giving it in muhhamend the conqueror for us the east Christians not lose the clean faith,thats mean we cant folllow the heretics.
I'm in the process of becoming Orthodox. I hope I get to hear the rest of this sit down discussion, soon.
We need people like you badly. You are the rest of the family who is missing. And even in the most celebrated moments and biggest feasts I always felt something is missing though. Now I know. Is not missing something but someone.And not only someone but all of you,the rest of the family. Come home guys. You have no idea how much we miss you. Just come home and we'll figure out the details sometime later. In fact all the rest is God's job. You just come home.
Same here!!! I left the evangelical church to become orthodox
@@a.kamileon Glory to God
@@a.kamileon Hallelujah!
Me too. If you haven't watched it yet, I recommend finding and viewing the UA-cam video series titled "finding the church that Jesus built 101"; the videos were shot back in like 2001 in Oklahoma, it was a seminar series.. the videos are not in order but the first two are important, so flip through and find the first two-- the guy pretty much smashes Protestant thinking (kindly) and explains the historical beginnings of the church, the breaking away of Catholicism and then the formation of each main Protestant sect in a somewhat entertaining way, as well as the general foundations of western church thinking, a lot of information is provided there in just a couple of hours.✌️ God bless
Former reformed Protestant in the process of becoming Orthodox. Loving these videos 🙏🏻☦️🤠
Welcome home ☦️💞
He don’t even know that salvation is by faith alone if you watch the video
@@Watermelon-dj8be Demons have faith. Are they saved?
@Ελληνας Γραικος Are you a Jew?? Who do you think Jesus was?? A Jewish king and the whole bible is about Jews and to Jews cuz they follow mosaic law and after his death he gave paul the doctrine of salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
@@ImNotJoshPotter demons say Jesus isn’t GOD, do you believe that?? No right. We’re not Jews who works for their salvation. By grace through faith which means the god so loved this world that he died for his creation so we can have eternal life with him
As a Protestant I have a huge admiration for my Orthodox brothers and sisters. Your leadership is doing some good stuff!
@JV Harbin have you found anything ?
@@novaxdjokovic9592 sure. I don’t really buy into denominational differences. We are all one under Christ. Do you worship a different deity then I?
@@novaxdjokovic9592 your creed has been made by men, not Christ. Do you read a different Bible? By what commandments has he made your church the ‘one’ over the people I go to
church with? There is one Christ man, and just because we worship him differently doesn’t make us different past the differences we make.
@@novaxdjokovic9592 guess we’ll find out on judgement day won’t we? in my eyes orthodox follow the laws and traditions of men
@@novaxdjokovic9592 jeez youre a fanatic. So what about people who cant take eucharist for health reasons, they arent christian? 😂
To all not orthodox here, please if you ever have the chance come to greece (or in any orthodox country-we have similar celebrations) to experience orthodox Easter and the miracle of holy fire. It's a life changing experience.
@@SoldierAndrew the Easter miracle of Holy Fire , that happens within the Holy Tomb on Easter eve
but to see the miracle of the holy fire you'd have to go to jerusalem and not greece?
I wish... But this covid madness separates us from each other...
@@foteinimanou5516 This occurs only in Jerusalem, not anywhere in Greece.
@@vaska1999 yes, the tomb of Christ is in Jerusalem.
I am a Russian Orthodox Christian living in Russia and it is amazing to me to read so many comments from Orthodox foreigners and those who want to know Orthodoxy! It's incredible! Hello, brothers! May the Lord protect you all! 🙏 Welcome to Orthodox Russia!😊❤️
Brother we are all foreigners on Earth. We are on a journey to Heaven together.
@@acekoala457 Brother, take your time - first you need to live your earthly life with dignity! God bless you!
Ethiopia❤
What do you think about Russian church calling to kill Ukranian ? Any thoughts or nothing ?
@@blessedandhopeful Go to church and pray! The Lord will surely grant you intelligence! I will also pray for you!
Orthodoxy - most beautiful type of Christianity.
Bonus points for the great beards!
That'd be Catholicism.
Not really.
Depend on your definition of "beauty"
why?
Am a part of the Ethiopian Orthodox. Thanks, Matt for the video, and thanks to Father Paul for presenting the church's History and beliefs.
"Suffering isn' t without meaning".. deep words..
I left my reformed protestant church to attend an Orthodox church. Many of my old friends say “That’s legalism!” I wish they understood, their accusation is a projection. To me, Orthodoxy is how my faith expanded out of the confines of my intellect, how it is expressed in my worship, heart, body, and life. Nothing to do with legalism!
Orthodoxie is a way of live and not just a religion. We have 2000 years of history with people like as that are witnesses and examples for as so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel again and again.
I left a Reformed church as well. They dontunderstand the Orthodox view of the atonement- we think the point of life is to be sanctified (Theosis) whereas they think they just need to be declared not guilty by God. We do not believe salvation is earned through works.
Welcome brother's to the clean faith in holy trinity. Holy trinity with you!
All the best, man. There is a centuries-old difference between us Orthodox and you Protestants, especially between the European East and the West. So from my point of view, your efforts to understand differently not only religion but also culture are worth admiring. Just keep it up, greetings from the Serbian Orthodox.
☦️ Populli shkavell duhet ti kthyer pronat kishtare në Dardani tek pronarit të vërtet, na e dina që populli jon ka qenë krishtere kur shkau nuk ka dit as qka është kisha. We owe that one to Fan Noli, Kristo Negovani and many, many of our own clerics before them.
То је ствар, прво су се раздвојили Римски Католицизам и Провославни Католицизам, а тек послије су се раздвојили други од Римокатолика.
Miodraze mali vraze
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
dje si kuco junacka,....
I am not Christian but by God I love this, the amount of respect they have for eachother despite their differences is wholesome. This is how people from different religions should talk to eachother not with hatred and violence.
I guess the nature of the religion helps. There is noting else but love and respect in Christianity while in others there is a lot of hate and killing.
You found a really good Orthodox priest, can’t wait for the rest❤️
That's probably due to the fact that must be English and he's not stumbling with words or meaning like plenty of our ethnic clergy
Father Paul is such a humble man, his teachings are helping me in the process of my own conversion from the Protestant faith to Orthodoxy. Glory be to God!
Georgian Orthodox here, it was such a joy to watch an entire content about our church, traditions and beliefs. I feel like Orthodox Church is still regarded as church of certain nationalities in the west. many thanks Matt for taking a time as well as to Father Paul. God bless
I am also a Georgian Orthodox)
I asked similar questions before being received into the Antiochian Archdiocese. I’m really loving these videos. ☦️
Glory to God.
I’m also in the Antiochian archdiocese. I love watching videos like these to kind of drill the basics of the Faith into me.
Christos anesti! Many years, brother! ☦️
@@IAMFISH92 Alithos Anesti
Welcome. Convert into ROCOR here. This was a great discussion. That parish is blessed to have this priest.
What I like about Orthodox Church when compared to other Christian Churches:
- Christmas and other holidays are actually celebrated because of Jesus Christ, not because of fireworks and expensive presents. It's about Christ and family.
- There's no pope. Only God and people. They do not worship anyone else except God himself.
- The feeling when you enter the church and the design of churches is more on the light side, while for example Catholic gothic style is more on the dark side. Orthodox churches feel more right when you see them.
Like your first two points!
A small tidbit might be that the Pope is basically a centralising figure which helps propel the "earthy" political side of power and thus keeps Catholics together unlike other branches. Almost all about control, we could say.
Regarding the last point, from a central European pov, I think that there are so many beautiful and light filled Rococo & neoclassical churches, both Catholic (with white walls and gold everywhere, example: the Dom of Salzburg) and Protestant, that equaling Catholicism with Gothic style is kinda simplistic.
It's just that Catholics in the late 1800s when building new churches went full "Neo-gothic and neo-romanic" with dark interiors and an overall depressing atmosphere.
But yeah, overall I understand how orthodox churches feel more "aboriginal" and "closer" to the ancient ways. Thankfully it's good to have variety
im orthodox too and dissagree with everything you just said
Ive seen a lot of comments here about the Orthodox Church “feeling right.“ It’s a similar false notion protestants use, they “feel” more spiritual when they’re doing their Jesus rock music and feel good preaching.
Truth does not care about your feelings.
The orthodox misrepresent of the unifying power of the see of Peter, allowance of multiple divorces and adulterous remarriage, nationalistic communities based on ethnicity…huge glaring problems in the Orthodox Church.
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 every faith has its own flaws
That is so true ))
Father Paul is amazing
a touch of Holy Spirit
These orthodoxy videos are amazing. Thank you.
31:00 ‘we want the experience of God first and foremost and if we have to put it into words, we will’
Love the metaphor and quote here
I'm Serbian Orthodox and I like how the priest talks and it's really nice to see how an American deals with it it's amazing.
There are 2 differences in Orthodox Churches across the world that I've noticed and its Behaviour in the Church and Celebration of Christmas and by celebration I mean Date, I've noticed that most of the Churches including mine use Julian calendar, Churches like Romanian and Greek Orthodox Church use the Gregorian calender
Али проблем је то да наш календар и није толико тачан као што је Грегоријански.
@@Donald_Trump_2024 Заправо скоро сви православци осим нас и Руса, су прихватили Миланковићев календар који је најтачнији калнедар икад направљен. Тај његов календар се све до 2700 не знам које године поклапа са Грегоријанским.
same here! I love how he talks and explains things. I’m an albanian muslim that wants to convert to orthodoxy tho haha
@@Anonymous-zk7nv ALBANIAN DETECTED
@@user-vi4zw6zu4c А јој да, Милутин је направио онај његов тачан календар, 2 секунде дужи од Грегоријанског календара, врло тачан календар.
In no small part to your videos on Orthodoxy, my wife and I were received into the Orthodox Church-specifically the OCA- last March in the midst of the height of COVID. Your respectful, humble, and intoxicating curiosity is wonderful. I found your videos when I was first reexamining Faith after leaving the Evangelical church. Your thorough looks into the nuts and bolts of faith helped me to bridge the gap between my mind and my heart with Faith. I also greatly appreciate you having the courage to ask the hard- and sometimes uncomfortable- questions of Faith to people that likely disagree. Even in this your humility shows through.
You're a bit of a small celebrity among our Parish. Know that you are greatly appreciated and that I destroy the like button on most every video of yours. Christ is Risen!
Welcome home brother. Romanian orthodox here.
I'm not orthodox myself but this fills me with hope. There seems to be a relatively large exodus out of the "evangelical" church, largely what seems to be due (in my opinion anyway) to a lack of unified, logically and theologically consistent doctrine. Discussing theology has literally become "taboo" in some circles. Progressivism is infiltrating the church and many north Americans have no firm ground on which to stand, instead swayed this way and that by the winds of relativist politics.
Hello brother! OCA too here in Syracuse :D
Churches can only survive by recruiting/indoctrinating new members all the time, its the core function of a church regardless of faith.
are you American and converted to Orthodoxy or you have roots in some orthodox country? would like to hear about and how come you re interested in orthodox faith?
I am part of the Romanian Orthodox Church and I love to listen to this priest!❤
as an atheist i've got to admit that this conversation was pretty interesting
Thanks for hanging out!
Same. Even if I don't believe it myself, theological discussion is always fascinating when civil
And how interesting it is that you also believe.
There are no atheists. Everybody believes in something. Whether that is God, luck, self, aliens, etc.
@@georgegabriel7766 so all belief is religion?
I've recently joined a Greek Orthodox parish in my Country in Africa. This interview is so amazing to me. In Africa the dominant Church is Ethiopian and Coptic Orthodoxy, which have strong emphasis on preservation of their cultures while living with Islam at the doorstep.
Which country do you live in?
In the eyes of Eastern Orthodox leaders I can always see amazing sincerity of heart, clarity of mind and depth of the Spirit. There is a true understanding of Greatness, Holiness and yet deep Mercy og God. I went through experiences with a different churches and ended up feeling very attracted to the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Lifelong Protestant with evangelical Pentecostal pastor for a father and became an atheist and after truth seeking and studying the apostolic Orthodox Church has changed my life! ☦️👑 no need to change ever! Or have a reformation
Greetings to my orthodox brothers from Serbia! ☦️🇷🇸
Приветствую из Православной Украины, брат!
Greetings to the infinitely suffering and martyred Serbian brothers and sisters from Steve Kovacevich in Texas. You people have totally more character and class than us over here in the land of sodom. I wish my ancestors had never left Zhabljak in Crna Gora. Zhivela Srbija zauvek!
You asked fantastic questions in this.
Thanks Kurt!
After many months, I told my nondenominational father about wanting to convert to Orthodoxy and he supported me in doing this.
When I’m ready, I’m going to attend Divine Liturgy at my local Orthodox church and see what it’s all about in person.
God has a plan for all of you, and through Christ our savior you can develop a relationship with him to guide you through the plan he’s made.
Christ loves you all, friends.✝️☦️
I'm a Southern Baptist raised redneck from South Carolina and I've been watching a lot of Orthodox stuff for a couple years now. I eventually want to join or at least attend some services at some of the Orthodox churches we have in Columbia SC. I feel like I relate more to Christianity through the Orthodox view than I do with Protestantism. Ive always felt like the the Protestant churches were missing some of the powerful ways of the Orthodox church. But I have made a decision to never try Catholic church. I have seen way to many Heresy's and evil come from the Catholic church. Sorry Catholics not trying to hate just doesn't feel right to me.
South Carolina resident here. My father was Orthodox, my mother Roman Catholic. I was raised in the Roman Catholic church, saved by the grace of God in the Methodist church and now attend a Baptist church. God, in His divine providence, uses them all despite the overwhelming differences.
@@featurebroadcast297 ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
haide frate la Ortodoxie!! hello from Romania!
@@Lucian0O love y'all Romanians beautiful language beautiful people and beautiful religion.❤.
Look at history. Catholicism came into reality as a rupture, a break away from the Orthoxox church, and - surprise, surprise :) - it was always militaristic.
Actually, the first wars done by the Catholics were against the Orthodox, because of greed, for plunder, for riches, etc. The great “schisma” when the new Catholic branch of Christianity appeared was a political rupture engineered almost a thousand years ago, done to be able to plunder, exploit and rage wars against the Orthodox Christianity in the East, from Byzantium, to Greece, all the way East to the old Dacia, the first nation to adopt Christianity through Saint Andrew, al the way eastward to the Russians (which have always been attacked by the West - France, Germany… Catholics).
It is still visible today, that mentality of exploitation, occupation, and militarism… remember how Greece was treated after the financial crisis of 2008, although in EU there were Catholic countries which were in a much worse financial condition than Greece? How about the pattern of wars and colonization of the Catholic countries against the Orthodox Christian nations? How come Orthodox Christianity never had any colonies like say in Africa? (The Protestants, in whatever form, Anglicans and so on, were deviations from Catholicism, probably even more militarized - ref the Evangelical Christian’s created by the English, the Anglican Church, of which I found out very recently). In all predominantly Christian Orthodox nations there is a certain deep spirituality, the key to their resilience, that holds together the nation (with diverse people regardless of ethnicity, religion, etc) like the roots of a majestic tree hold it in sunshine as well as in any storm. In powerful storms, a tree may bend, but with deep healthy roots, it just never falls.
Some other telling difference, just ask yourself “why?” like that : In Orthodox Christianity, never, never, there were actions like burning people alive, like the Catholics did extensively for years during the Inquisition. Something like this, like that Inquisition widespread inside Catholicism, would have never even been imaginable in the Orthodox Christianity spirituality, which is centered around the idea that all lives are to be protected, cherished, all people helped, respected, and each Orthodox Christian should never hurt another person, but do only good to all the people. That’s the focus.. It may be weakness, often nativity, when confronted with militarism and aggression - but the truth is that’s something so based, so valuable, that it is actually strength and resilience.
In every single interview I’ve seen of orthodox pastors/fathers, they are extremely intelligent and articulate their faith perfectly. Growing up in a “born again” church - those pastors definitely weren’t as fine tuned. I feel like I could ask one of these pastors my burning questions that drove me away from my faith and keep me on the edge of it now, and actually get real intelligent answers from them that make sense. Thats all I’ve ever wanted was someone to digest all of the stories I learned as a kid in a way that made sense as an adult instead of getting the “as the lord leads” mamby pamby answers.
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God bless you. I hope you join an orthodox church soon☦️
God bless you. I hope you join an orthodox church soon☦️
God bless you. I hope you join an orthodox church soon☦️
God bless you. I hope you join an orthodox church soon☦️
I'd love to hear you talk to Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Stephen DeYoung and Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick about symbolism in the ancient world ie cosmology.
Yes...and their Lord of Spirits podcast is incredible.
Giants!
@@brettscotland889 Counsel of God too.
Yes!
Yes! It would be cool to see him have more convos with orthodox people
My utmost respect to Fr Paul for skillfully articulating the truths of the faith.
I like that you are open to Orthodox teachings. Great content here. My family and I are catechumens at the moment and so far, the Orthodox Church has brought my wife and I so many answers to our questions and much peace with how we used to see our salvation and communion with God and others. I grew up RC and my wife pentecostal/evangelical. What a journey!
Wow that is awesome brother
Synergism (Arminianism, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy) and Calvinism are both heresies rooted in prideful human reason. In his dogmatics John Theodore Mueller writes:
"If God alone works conversion in man, then it cannot be maintained that He really desires the salvation of all men; for, actually He does not convert all. To this we reply that Holy Scripture teaches both the sola gratia and the gratia universalis; that is, God alone converts and saves sinners, and He earnestly desires to save all sinners. Both doctrines must therefore be taught side by side without any modification or qualification of either of them. It is true, if this is done, the theologian is confronted with the perplexing problem, which human reason cannot solve, "Why, then, are not all saved?" (Cur alii, alii nonf Cur alii prae aliisf) Calvinism solves the mystery by denying the universalis gratia; synergism, by denying the sola gratia, whereas the theologian who is loyal to Scripture does not attempt any solution of the mystery at all, just as little as he endeavors to solve the mysteries involved in the doctrines of the Holy Trinity, the personal union, the real presence, etc. Reason indeed argues thus: Since all men are in the same state of guilt (in eadem culpa) and only God, who earnestly desires to save all men (universalis gratia), can save sinners (sola gratia), the actual conversion of all men must needs follow. But the true theologian does not recognize reason as his principle of faith (principium cognoscendi) ; he is bound to Scrip- ture as the only source and rule of faith, which, however, does not explain this crux theologorum."
As a Roman Catholic i admire the Orthodox church, even though we consider a few things incorrect, we can all respect that Jesus is King.
It’s interesting that a Protestant would have no problem kissing a picture of their departed parents or grandparents,looking at their act is showing their love for them not the picture itself but can’t see the same thing with someone kissing an Icon.
I'm protestant but I seem to agree with everything he said. I might be more orthodox than catholic.
Synergism (Arminianism, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy) and Calvinism are both heresies rooted in prideful human reason. In his dogmatics John Theodore Mueller writes:
"If God alone works conversion in man, then it cannot be maintained that He really desires the salvation of all men; for, actually He does not convert all. To this we reply that Holy Scripture teaches both the sola gratia and the gratia universalis; that is, God alone converts and saves sinners, and He earnestly desires to save all sinners. Both doctrines must therefore be taught side by side without any modification or qualification of either of them. It is true, if this is done, the theologian is confronted with the perplexing problem, which human reason cannot solve, "Why, then, are not all saved?" (Cur alii, alii nonf Cur alii prae aliisf) Calvinism solves the mystery by denying the universalis gratia; synergism, by denying the sola gratia, whereas the theologian who is loyal to Scripture does not attempt any solution of the mystery at all, just as little as he endeavors to solve the mysteries involved in the doctrines of the Holy Trinity, the personal union, the real presence, etc. Reason indeed argues thus: Since all men are in the same state of guilt (in eadem culpa) and only God, who earnestly desires to save all men (universalis gratia), can save sinners (sola gratia), the actual conversion of all men must needs follow. But the true theologian does not recognize reason as his principle of faith (principium cognoscendi) ; he is bound to Scrip- ture as the only source and rule of faith, which, however, does not explain this crux theologorum."
@@eternaljunker8300 There is a question that is epistemically prior to scripture: Where does the Bible come from?
I think it’s important that nobody read monergism into scripture before the Reformers. Doesn’t that completely refute the idea that the “gospel” that you teach is not that which was passed down from the apostles?
@@eternaljunker8300 Protestantism is demonic
@@neyou6940 Much of "protestantism" is utterly subverted and has little to do with Luther. You need to keep in mind that Luther (and Chemnitz and Gerhard to name other notable Lutheran theologians) taught the bodily real presence in the Eucharist, as Lutheranism still does, but "protestantism" usually does not - thus this umbrella term is misleading - it is like when people say "ancient churches" and pretend that Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Assyrian Church of the East and Oriental Orthodoxy are one and the same - although they are in schism with each other.
When it comes to cultural subversion I would argue that Western Christendom suffered more from liberalism than Eastern Christendom suffered from communism - because liberalism is more subversive in the long run.
But sth. to think about is that anyone writing a book about the J as Luther did, would face harsh consequences in any church - which tells you how lukewarm all of them have become.
''I'm protestant'' Orthodoxy is apostolic protestantism 😂 so go for it, you wont have the fullness of the truth as years of pastor brainwashing has veiled your understanding but you will certainly have valid sacraments, *THE EUCARIST (Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ)* (thank you Lord) and beautiful liturgy, it's a no brainer
Can we expect a Syriac Orthodox Church tour and understanding? The Syriac liturgy-rite is spread across the Middle East in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq and South India (Kerala) and is the earliest and purest form of the expression of Christianity. Our prayers are in Aramaic and we have speak an Aramaic dialect, the language of Christ
That would be really great to see
They won't...usually when they talk about orthodoxy they mean the eastern orthodox....oriental orthodoxy is often considered inferior and not important enough to even discuss about...
@@realzhella6817 what makes you make the bogus claim thar Oriental Orthodox isnt important enough to talk about?
All of modern Christianity stems from Oriental Orthodoxy
We are the one who gave you the faith
Not some dude in Rome or some plumber in Texas
@@vivekaugustine9583 I am oriental orthodox brother...but have u ever seen anyone talk about oriental orthodox when they refer to orthodoxy...its almost always eastern orthodox...the number of oriental orthodox is only around 80 million which is way less than other denominations hence not often given much importance
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I appreciate these videos. As a Roman Catholic, I like to learn more about other Christian traditions and culture.
I've always had a deep respect and admiration for the Orthodox Church.
This is enlightening! Christ is Risen!
Thanks for doing this Matt,
it should be noted that while academic analysis is helpful Orthodoxy can only be truly understood through experience and prayer
The greatest journey a man can make is the 18 inches from his head to his heart! ☦️
Amen! Fr. Paul touches on this in the tour video. We often want to understand before experiencing, but in Orthodoxy, experience comes before understanding.
@@jeffrey5966 that is my experience as well. Chrismated Holy Saturday, 2021.
@@JimmyGarcia58 Welcome Home!! I was Chrismated last Pentecost Weekend so this past Sunday was my 1 year anniversary!! Glory be to God!!
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I absolutely love your treatment of the Eastern Orthodox Church in these videos. Your Christian love and genuine curiosity have the potential of providing the bridge for some much needed inter-Christian dialogue. Well, I am a subscriber now.
Christ is in our midst. Matt, I love what you have done with this series. Most especially on Orthodoxy. Your desire bring us all together to live and respect each other and our differences. What you are doing, I pray, will be a means of overcoming the current trend of division, and intolerance. Thank you. Keep up your work, your efforts. Glory to God.
Hello from Greece! The prist is awesome! The church style also in contrast with the other one in the past is identical to those that we have in the Balkans and Eastern Europe!
Well done father! Bravo! Thanks for how well you represented our faith! Axios! Άξιος!
These conversations are so enlightening. God bless you Matt!
As someone that grew up in roman catholic this is the information I need. I am researching back to the roots.
I come back to this video as a reminder for my own faith. This is such high quality content.
This is an amazing discussion coming from two theologians with no guile, fear, threat, or prejudice. Thank you very much. I am mostly of the Protestant reform faith and have to say I learned a lot from my Orthodox brethren about my own expression of faith. I am 71 and a Christian since I was 8 years old; you two men from different faiths should be considered for the Nobel Peace Prize in that you thought the world how two men coming from differing perspectives can communicate in a way where listeners from varying perspectives can learn something from each. Thank you very much.
You asked great questions!
Orthodox theology is learned by living it, not just by studying it.., unlike the West it’s not all ‘in your head’ or intellectual/rational “I’ve figured theology out for myself”.
It’s not an easy thing to consider until you imagine marriage as a thought plus commitment with no action. It doesn’t work.
Our Christian practice is directed towards building a holistic relationship with the Triune God. We are body, mind and spirit.
I agree it's hard to understand without the liturgy.
@@grantguikema9821 Yes, the Liturgy teaches us.
Lutheran (LCMS) liturgy taught me a lot, but it taught the head, not the heart. I went to Lutheran schools K-9 and could recite Luther's Small Catechism front to back. I was 4th generation German Lutheran in the US and was proud of it. It took me a while to realize that beside my mind, God had gifted me with a heart and a soul that also needed to be committed to Him.
@@Bilabius amen. We should praise the orthodoxy found in protestant faith. The idea of the noose really spoke to me about the unifying of the mind and the heart.
@@grantguikema9821 I'm sorry, I must have missed the part about the noose. Please enlighten me.
Thank you for this series of videos. Really enjoying your talks with Fr. Paul. May God bless you.
Thank you so much for this series! I've been enjoying listening to it almost as much as you have enjoyed making it and am greatly benefitting from these really insightful conversations! Thank you so much, may God bless you and Fr. Trubenbach and all listening!
This is one of your best interviews. I loved every second of it! Thank you Matt!
Really appreciate what you do, Matt! All the time, money, and effort put into each video is obvious.
Matt, another great one. I am so glad I support you in this!
Im loving your videos and how you don't "bash" other christian faiths but approach everything with GRACE and Respect. thank you for all your research and hard work. May GOD bless you, your family, and this channel.
Not only worth the time to watch but worthy of CAREFUL consideration. Thank you, so much, for the effort here, Matt.
At first I thought maybe you published the next half already but quickly realized this is the same as this morning with fixed sound. Thanks for the correction!
Hi from Mexico! I was Chrismated in Saint Peters and Pauls Orthodox Church in Ben Lomond, California! I'm surrounded by New Agers here in Baja California sur México where I live now. Send a missionary please and start a church here. Please please please please. Hablo español!
Ramona, Mexico having such a beautiful Catholic tradition, with that wondrous apparition of the most holy theotokos at Guadalupe, Mother of all America and you became russian orthodox?
Thank you Matt! Absolutely love your grace and humility while searching for understanding. Hoping some of that will rub off onto my prideful heart. Top notch channel and podcast!
Thank God, there's more!!! I was desparate watching the video coming to the end, but, thankfully, you promised another half! Thank you, sooo much for this, I just want more of this priest!
22:30 Amazing question.
I'm reading Brothers Karamazov at the moment and there is a discussion about the role of the church and how it should be.
What a great framing!
O man you had to cut it off there... I was ready for 5 more hours
As a Catholic I do love and respect our orthodox and protestant brethren !! Yet I think with the orthodox we are so similar!!!
@Igor Zlatkovic mmmm well now that you mention it we follow the church founded by Christ. You my friend are a member of one of many Orthodox Church that is separated from the true Church.
Even so Merry Christmas my Orthodox Brother.
Really? Did that happen when 4 out of 5 Pentarchy members kicked out 5th one? Is that "kicked one" actually "true" Church?
Tell me more about that.
@@englishlearningcenter1470 Rome left the 4 other churches. It's pretty easy to see who left.
There are multiple versions of Roman Catholicism that are not in communion with Rome. One is the SSPX. There is onyl one Orthodox Church, there are just different jurisdictions. What Catholics don't seem to understand is that centralized authority is not the only type of authority- variation and consensus is okay.
The other problem is that even if there were only one claimant to being true Roman Catholicism (rather than 4 or 5), the Western Church is split into 10,000 different denominations including Protestantism. Protestantism is the "egg that Rome layed," and Rome doesn't get to disown that child.
God bless you brother, I really appreciate what you r doing. Keep up the good job. From Ethiopia 🇪🇹
Comments from the previous bad-audio upload:
1. An interview with Fr. Stephen De Young would be very interesting to watch
2. You might like writings of St. Maximus the Confessor and his presentation of the Christian cosmology, given your theological disposition.
I second the interview with Fr. Stephen. That video would be interesting and probably very popular on this channel.
At least start listening to the Lord of Spirits podcast.
A convo with Father De Young would be amazing. Please make it happen Matt - he really knows his stuff.
@Dissonant Timbres Yes the essence and energies distinction was a big reason for my conversion to Orthodoxy.
I really enjoyed watching this video !Can’t wait for the next one!
Thank you to your supporters who helped you do this fantastic interview.
I really appreciate your work. Father Paul has a nice way of explaining things. Lovely conversation!
These videos help me explore my own Orthodox upbringing as well as the other Christian traditions. Thank you!
With love from Romania and for all american;s Orthodox. GOD bless Father Paul. Aleluia!!!!!!
This was very informative! Thank you for posting this interview. I think we need far more conversations like this in the world.
I appreciate these conversations. In a selected timespan we get to experience informative, rich, and very helpful conversations about another strand of Christianity. The TMBH host asks really good questions and entry points into incisive conversation.
I’m a simple man, when I see a TMBH notification, I click!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate it Ismail!
I REALLY enjoy listening to people just talking with each other about what makes them happy or passionate. The jokes and openness were really wholesome. It makes you really think... if just everyone could be so positive about knowledge and beliefs
Matt, you’ve done such a great job respectfully and fairly interviewing Fr. Paul. As an Orthodox person, thank you. I’ve even shared your last few videos on Facebook because they’ve been such a great explanation tool to those loved ones in my life that have no exposure to the church and no other approachable resources through which to to be introduced to it. Thanks for your fair and honest questions that probably run through the thoughts of many people coming from the same background.
As an Orthodox Christian I would recommend the following UA-cam channels Orthdox talks, father spyridon, Ancient Faith Radio to name a few ☦️ Christ Has Risen ☦️☦️☦️
Hahaha that “end cut” got me. What a cliff hanger. Great editing Matt!
Me: *just minding my atheist business*
UA-cam: hey, you should check this Christian discussion out
Me: *actually enjoying it*
@Nastro Adhesivo nice try, officer
@Nastro Adhesivo I am Athiest ex-Hindu but I really like Eastern orthodox Christianity . But I am vegan and Is it ok to be Vegan and Christian ?
@Nastro Adhesivo what does that mean ?
@Nastro Adhesivo i am not shorter than 150 cm I am 180cm
@@holytemplars3568 you can be vegan all you want orthodox dont care about your choice of diet
Lots of orthodox content coming out, really love it.
I really love these videos thank you so much for creating this content. It Really does take an open heart l to make a professional, understanding, and inspiring series like this.
Thank you
Thank you so much for this wonderful series that you do. You are building bridges, brother.---Todd
0:10 Living A Christian Life
1:13 Eastern Orthodox people 2:17 West and East
4:11 Latin West and Greek East, but it's more about hearts and minds than language
5:19 Antiochian?
7:10 Disagreement
8:04 Here is what we believe
10:14 Nicean Creed
11:46 Violence? 12:44 14:32 The Sword
19:23 Peter
22:14 Who Changed? 23:05 Unity?
24:45 Points of difference 25:52 Pope, Purgatory, Filioque, Unmarried Clergy,
27:47 Kisses and Veneration
28:44 The Greek Mind
29:33 Say what God is Not (Apophatic)
30:00 Careful, God is beyond Human Concepts, 31:03 although
32:06 Key Beliefs
Thanks for breaking this down. I appreciated the segment at 30:00 where Father Paul described the inadequacy of words to describe God. Lots to consider there.....
Love the “bedazzled pants” comment regarding the big box church down the road. It’s so true and what a shame.
Thanks so much for doing this series!
Actually the Ottoman occupation is still going on now, this far into to 21st Century: Constantinople (now Istanbul) is still in Muslim hands.
@Ελληνας Γραικος i pray that it will
@@grigorkarakelyan7282 St Paisios prophecies brother, GOD'S WILL
Amen Brother
And frustrating to see Hagia Sophia becoming a mosque again, though still publicly open
I'm an American and have no connection to the orthodox church BUT my friends and I always joke that our greatest goals for the future is to reclaim Constantinople.
Thank you for this video! It is made with love and respect 🙏 I don’t know if father Paul is reading these comments, but I want to thank him for being so educated and with good communication skills. It is very important for 21st century missionaries. I’m Orthodox Christian from Georgia (country) and I enjoyed the video very much ❤️
The nice thing when the 5 Patriarchats were working together is they were correcting one another when facing heterodox positions in their jurisdiction. Let's get back to that spirit with our protestant brothers and sisters. May the Holy Spirit guide us.
Coming back to this channel after a long while. It's gotten even better. My other favorite video of yours is (I think) when you last visited a Greek Orthodox church. I have linked it to people many times. Much love to Brother Matt and Brother Paul.
Really interesting discussion, as always with this channel. Thanks very much.
خريستوس آنيستي آليثوس آنيستي، المسيح قام بالحقيقة قام، Christ is Risen, He Has Risen Indeed, Χριστός ἀνέστη, Ἀληθῶς ἀνέστη, Xrictoc anecth. 🔥🔥🔥♥️♥️♥️☦️
Congratulations for your Greek.
Христос Воскресе!)
Why your writing in Arabic?
@@ndrechtseiter воистину воскресе!
What about Христос Воскресе? Bulgarian orthodox church is the oldest in Europe, apart from Constantinople Patriarchy...