My older WW2 Veteran neighbor had 1 gun. A single shot 410. He always got his limit of squirrels, rabbit, deer and even a black bear. He just used the right round for the right season and had excellent shot placement.
My favorite hunting shotgun is my single shot .410. Squirrels, dove, rabbits, and even the unlucky duck I sneak up on. Doesn't tear up the meat, low recoil, less noise, lighter, and no moving parts to fail. Too bad the ammo is hard to find. I had to start reloading my own with black powder and 209 primers with BBs.
That ww2 vet could absolutely have owned and used any gun or caliber. He chose the .410! Wisdom. Speaks volumes. They don't call them "the greatest generation" for no reason.
It's worth remembering that the .410 was at one time a much prized gangland weapon here in the UK. These people had access to the most powerful weapons of the day, but the .410 was a preferred option for many of them. The .410 was an extremely efficient close-range killer, and plenty of bad guys found out the hard way that it is definitely not a kid's gun.
Never underestimate a .410 shotgun. I was given a .410 bolt action shotgun on my 12th birthday in the early 1950s and learned then how effective it is. Your demonstration speaks volumes. There was a lot of hydrostatic shock impacting those blocks.
Great to learn with. You learn shot placement because you don't have all that volume of pellets like the 12 gauge. Just like you, I'm so glad I started with the .410
All 3 were incredible! The slug and the buckshot did about what I expected. But the birdshot, now that was a real cheese grater! Man, it really shredded that clay! Way more than I expected!
WHO_TEE_WHO it surprised me as well didn’t expect it to do that much damage, great stuff mate. A comparison between a 20 gauge and your little rippa.410 would be interesting cheers Yogi Australia 🇦🇺🤙🤙
The birdshot demo confirms what I have always said. That is, birdshot for home defense where over penetration could be a concern, is highly recommended and as you all can see, absolutely effective. Now take the .410 up a few notches to a 12 ga. and you have...clay stalactites hanging from the ceiling.
I have owned a Savage model 24 .22lr/.410 for over 60 years now. It is absolutely the best small game/varmint rooti-tooti in my book. Being over 60 years old it still is over 90%. Blue barrel, color case hardened receiver, beautiful wood. It will be passed to my grandson .
I have known some old shooters that kept a 410 above their bed for home defense. They had a handgun in the nightstand but always told me it was the 410 they would use. They said it would take any man down and would not go through as many walls. It had less collateral damage and less chance of hitting a loved one by mistake or travel through. I had a lever-action 410 when I was young and loved it. I killed my first turkey with it way back in the early 80s when they started the first turkey hunt in N Missouri. I just bought my grandson a Rossi Matched Pair Youth .22 LR/.410 Bore Single Shot Rifle/Shotgun Combo. It is a blast to shoot and he loves it.
I'm 66 and old and getting more crippled every day. Lol. I bought me a Hatfield 410 over and under so I would have a shotgun that didn't kick me too much. I am well pleased with this gun it has 28 inch barrels and multiple choke tubes. I bought slugs buckshot as well as birdshot. For home defense I tend to like 3 inch number 4 shot for the pattern and penetration plus it works great on crows too. Great video have a great day and a better tomorrow
@@tac7.625 I was actually looking for either a side by side 410 or a rifle shotgun combo but have not seen any at reasonable prices in several years. I found this one an over under 410 at a pawnshop that I have did business with in the past. What drew me to it was it was a plain gun the longer barrels 28 inch and screwin choke tubes I have never even seen a 410 with 28 inch barrels. Overall i am impressed with the balance of the gun my thoughts are the longer barrels help. As my health declines I am tending to drive to the edge of the field and set up with a cooler and chair with my sons dogs and wait the squirrels out. Overall I am well pleased with the light weight and negligible recoil ever with buckshot and slugs. We have coyotes and wild hogs also this is my reason for my .45 lol . I am now having to use a Walker most of the time due to losing my balance. Good health to you and have a great day and a better tomorrow
@@randyherbrechtsmeier4796 I had an inmate at a state prison who suspected his wife of cheating on him the wife was 93 and he was 89 both were in a nursing home the husband had purchased a revolver and cartridges for home defense when they first married she was 21 and he was in his teens the gun and ammo were carefully hidden in his boxes. He loaded 2 bullets in the gun and shot her between the eyes the bullet traveled just under the skin and stopped at her hairline he then put the gun to his ear and pulled the trigger again the bullet lodged inside his ear pressing his hearing aid against his eardrum. They both survived and she kept both bullets till she died at the rope old age of 101.
The Fact is; you don’t want to get shot with anything. I had a family member shot and killed with one .22 LR , also had a friend shot and killed with one .410 birdshot at about 20 yards. Both bled out very quickly.
That 410 is no joke, that definitely slapped that clay hard. I think the size of shotgun comes down to personal preference and what you are using it for.
My Dad started me out for shotguns with an old 410. In truth, it shot as straight as a rifle. It was a full choke, and would reach out much farther than expected. Made as many kills at 40 yards with a 410 as anything else.
In my younger days I ignored the 410 but now in my senior years I love it so much I have four 410’s and reload it and I’m very pleased with its performance.
Me too. Velocities are the same as the larger bores. There’s just less shot. Same size. Same velocity. Just les volume. Still looks like a show stopper though.
when it comes to ammo debates i think any chunk(s) of metal flying at or around the speed of sound are equally lethal and were really just debating over how much overkill is enough overkill
I have moved from 12 to 410 out of necessity. I would rather be able to throw anything at the bad guy, than nothing. Thank you for helping to prove that self defense isn't macho, it's what you have on hand
Awesome comparison. All of them were quite damaging. Everyone says, Oh it's just a little .410 kids gun!! I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of any of those rounds😧. Whooooooooo teeeeeee whooooooooo is the man!
I like the ole 410 single. I'm 50 years old now and still have one for the squirrel woods. Cant not like it. Wasn't my first shotgun but I got one back in the day and always keep it around. Who-tee-who
@Faceless King Walmart back in 2020...they had Winchester Deer slugs. It pretty much looks like a 9mm rifled bullet. They were under $3 a box of 5. I bought a few but declined when the guy asked if I wanted more since this was about maybe 4-6 months when they would enforce limits. Barely a week later, these were gone and likely being flipped on GunBroker. Now where did I put the self-ass kicking machine.....
I don't underestimate ammo. I use this round in my Bond Arms snake slayer which I converted to the 4" barrel. Haven't encounter any venomous snakes yet and prefer not to, but if it should happen, the snake is in trouble.
Something to think about with that 5 pellet .410 buckshot: one of those is roughly the equivalent of five shots from a Colt 1851 Navy black powder revolver.
@@MrAvidOutdoorsman 000 Buck is .36 caliber, exactly the same as an old Colt 1851. The velocity of the buckshot out of the gun is very similar to that of the 1851 Navy Revolver. Same projectile, same velocity, but 5 at the same time. (It's important to note that the 1851 Navy revolver velocity could vary greatly depending on loading. Thus I said roughly equivalent.)
@@showproja I was talking specifically about the 000 Buck variant, not necessarily what was shown in the video. (I'm not going to go back and rewatch the video to find out.) #4 Buck, if I remember correctly, is .25 caliber. Next time, try responding to what somebody ACTUALLY said.
@@leeham6230 I specified the 5 pellet .410, which is, indeed, 000 Buck. In the 3 inch variant, the 2 1/2 inch version is 4 pellet. This does vary by manufacturer, I believe the 3 inch 5 pellet is Remington.
410 did more damage than I would have thought. I know that the 410 is my favorite squirrel gun. It will knock a big busytail out of a tall oak tree with #6 or 7 1/2 shot and be DRT.
Plus with a 410 you don’t need to let a rabbit run 30 yards away so you don’t blow it apart like with a 12 gauge. The right tool for the job. You don’t hammer tacks with a sledgehammer.
i just bought a Kel-Tec 410 bore shotgun. 10 3 inch, 14 21/2 inch this video was awesome. hope i never have to use it for self defense, but just in case, i know what to expect.
I love my 10,12, and 20 gauge shotguns, but I also have special place for a 410. I have an old, but good Stevens/Savage single shot, that I’ve had since I was a kid, and I still take it out hunting. Great video as usual man. Love the content.
My first shotgun was a double barrel 410 and that thing was so much fun, my dad's friend brought his to the range a few years back and it was a blast (I'll see myself out) to bust some clays with it! It had a modified choke and a full choke built into the barrels, it was tricky to shoot but very fun! My dad has talked about your channel several times, and the first time I look for a 410 slug penetration test, your video popped up. Thank you for this!
I love my 410. I have a mossberg 500 pump. I use it to rabbit hunt all the time. It does take a little more precision than a 12 gauge but none the less a fun little gun to shoot
I wouldn’t want to be hit by any of those “kiddie” loads. I read years ago that only an expert bird hunter could use a .410. Never seen anything since that disproved that statement. Good video.
Grew up hunting with a single shot (no mag), bolt action .410. used to be able to take squirrels and birds at 30 yards with that bad girl. She's still my second favorite firearm, and I've happily passed her on to my wife. Though I admit I'm a little jealous, love my 12 gauge, but just doesn't have the accuracy of that little .410... Don't know if it's a mental thing on my end, or just the gun itself, but with that .410 I could thread a needle with some bird shot at 20 yards... I'm betting it's mental honestly. When you know that your lunch depends on your shot, and you've only got one shot to hit, you make sure you're on target every time. Plus, light little gun with no recoil helps.
Professional archers shoot flying birds with bows and arrows so I don't see why someone couldn't use a .410 especially if they have a super great aim . Maybe next video could be bow and arrow vs single shot .410 .
That old myth has been around for awhile. Im not an expert but i went to the shotgun range with a 410 and didnt miss any clays. Its better than you may think.
@@longhunterman2399I have an old Stevens 39A bolt action tube fed .410 I acquired as a teen, that is an absolute tack driver and has brought down it's fair share of small game, and clay pigeons. My all time favorite day out shooting my .410 will always be one to remember. Back in the early 2000's I was with a group of friends shooting clay pigeons, mostly using 12 and 20 gauge, I was the only one that also brought a .410. After several rounds we changed things up a bit and added in a 5th position as a cleanup shooter in the middle shooting lane, their entire job was to see if they could hit a clay that the other 4 had missed, which meant all their shots would be deep down range. I volunteered to be the cleanup shooter, figuring I wouldn't get that many shots it wouldn't cost me that much to shoot the .410, so I and a couple boxes of 3" birdshot (2-1/2 doesn't have near the reach) and headed to the firing line. Over the next hour or so, I had an absolute blast with the little shotgun and made several guys believers in the .410, by hitting every clay I had a shot at, they couldn't believe I was making the deep down range shots I was taking with old "kids shotgun." Which then, devolved into us seeing who could hit a moving clay at the furthest distance with the old .410, and just having an all around good time. Sure it didn't have the ability to absolutely powder the clays at the ranges I was shooting, but it was still breaking them up into lots of pieces, which is still enough oomph to be lethal to upland gamebirds and other assorted small game at those distances.
The Eley Brothers in the UK invented and produced the 410 bore shotgun in 1874. It became very popular almost immediately. Now made by many manufacturers for very good reason. A world wide favorite. Versatile and powerful enough to handle most situations.
great video...suggestion...how about letting your children camo paint the 410 just like they did the Remington 700. I think the 410 would look great camoed up.
Now that was surprising! I was always a bird hunter, and as a kid I shot a 410 single shot, but I nevrer appreciated the power it had. I may be looking for a 410 now!. By the way, my eight year old son has finally become a Who Tee Who fan, and after watching your video on whatever milk jug test, decided to do his own, by seeing how many beer cans he could shoot through with his Red Rider......in the hallway, using a pillow for a BB stop! True to form he said "Dad, this is going to be a really fun video, as he made me video him with my phone. His nickname is Tooty Monster (guess where he got that name), and when he shot he went Hoo Hoo, Tooty Monster! So I wonder what he is going to try next............................
Just bought a Savage model 42, 22lr/410, compact breakdown, have a .38 special insert, 4+ lbs. great little gun. Mossberg 500e pump410 at door w/000 buckshot, Taurus Judge 45/410 at my recliner. Never felt outgunned with a 410 or a 38. I want a change in behavior and a prison sentence, not a Seagal movie murder scene w/blood all in my new carpets! Happy 410ers UNITE!
The reason that birdshot was so impressive is the speed and the weight of the shot. Those shells usually carry about 1/2 to 5/8 oz of shot. at 1,000fps, that's about the same energy as a .44 magnum .
.410 was the first firearm I got to use as a kid. I actually took a squirrel at 100 yards with a single #6 pellet hit, although I learned that even with a full choke, you shouldn't use it that far. I also have packable 20" barreled.410 which has 2 barrels, one is a smoothbore cylinder (unchoked) that I installed a set of metal Remington sights on and the other is a 20" full choke. With these two, I can hunt anything around here in a pinch. I also have a Mossberg 500 .410 that I use for rabbit hunting and home defense. I load it with 3 federal 5 pellet 000 buck and keep it where me or the wife can grab it if needed. I also make my own .410 slugs using .444 marlin brass and unique powder. I use (2) double layer cardboard wads and .41 magnum bullets flipped backwards so the big flat is forward. Out to 50 yards I shoot about 2" groups and it'll rip through multiple white oak pallet boards and shatters them good. People wouldn't think twice about using a .41 magnum pistol for defense or hunting, but then balk at a .410. I'm getting more velocity from the .410 and it hits hard. I also use 9.3x74R brass to make 3" shotshells that are reloadable easily. I load these with (5) .38 caliber round balls or #6 shot and they are a bit more powerful than the factory ones. I also reload some of the plastic hulls and have used pyrodex blackpowder in equal volume to shot to make some fun smokey loads, but I only shoot these in the single shot, (easier to clean). These are really simple to load with just a Lee .223 decapper I had laying around and a chunk of 3/8" dowel rod. That's all you need to load it. I use a piece of Richlite cutting board with a hole in it to decap into, but just a simple little hammer. I make overshot wads out of milk jug and hand punch all the wads with a 7/16" hole punch I got from sears in a set; the 5/8" works for 20 gauge, 9/16" for 16 ga and 3/4" for 12 gauge also. I found that the larger Lee dippers work good for developing loads easily for this caliber. .410 puts a lot less pellets in game, kicks a lot less and my Mossberg is about the same weight as an over-under 20 gauge my buddy uses for rabbit hunting.
I need to get into reloading! I had picked up a H&R 410 single shot for my boy to start with and learn on,but didn’t realize the ammo was going to be next to impossible to find and not even be able to shoot it 😒 I don’t ever want to be in this boat again! What press would you recommend?
@@Petryfied I don't use a press personally. If you are only doing a few loads here and there, you really don't need one. If you are doing a lot, I'd get a MEC 600 Jr. Check around on boards. I've seen them used for as little as $100, but it's rare. I have fun doing the ones I need with hand tools though. ;) If you want fancy wads that is where the biggest expense lies in reloading them.
Good clean country boy fun. All 3 were surprisingly impressive. The birdshot actually was the biggest surprise. I wouldn't wish to be shot by any of them.
I've used the .410 since I was 8 or 9 about 45 years total , Killed a lot of rabbits, squirrels and a few pheasants and grouse when the opportunity arose. If you can hit and cleanly harvest game with the .410 you can shoot. I am in the middle on the debate, Low recoil makes it great for beginners, Small shot payloads make it expert wingshooter friendly.
STARTED HUNTING IN THE FIELD AT 9 YEARS OLD, USED A 410 WITH 7.5 SHOT ON DOVES. TEXAS HAS A LOT OF DOVES, ALWAYS GOT MY LIMIT. THE 410 MADE ME A BETTER BIG GAME SHOT WHEN WE MOVED TO WYOMING. 410, A GREAT GUN THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER SHOT.
Since I picked up a 410 pump shotgun during the pandemic I've become a believer. My 12 gauge is locked away and probably won't come back out unless I decide I want to sell it. 410 is more fun to shoot, less prone to kill the neighbors in a home defense situation, and will absolutely get the job done. I have some Winchester Double X Diamond Grade .410 GA birdshot that I want to test for potential HD use. I use buckshot or pdx1 defender currently but if the high velocity turkey load tests well I might load that first as a "warning" shot, lol.
The .410 is not really a weaker load than a 12 gauge, the projectiles are going about as fast, there's just less of them or less weight if it's a slug but they are still travelling and hitting just as hard. Those semi-auto .410 shotguns are low recoil and still extremely lethal for example. Thinking of something like those AK pattern .410s. Plus if it's box fed you can fit more of them in a magazine than a 12 gauge. I think WTW should buy an AK pattern gun in .410! I reckon they are awesome. Even makes for a very viable home defence piece that anyone can use well.
Results aren't too surprising to me. I've been on the .410 train for around 10 years or so now. The Taurus Judge is really what turned me on towards it, especially once handgun specific loads were developed. I've taken deer, hogs, and other small game with the .410 to great effect and have zero doubts about it's capability defensively speaking. Yes. it's no 12 or 20 gauge in terms of overall power but it's more than enough for most medium to small game and personal protection. I'm a big fan of those Winchester 3 inch 1/4 oz slugs. They are my personal favorite for deer and hog hunts and have them loaded up in one of my .410 pumps for home defense. I see more and more people getting turned on to the .410 as a viable option these days. It just sucks .410 availability is at an all time low. I had the good sense to stock up on a lot before times were bad but it makes it much harder to want to shoot for fun knowing how little is out there to replenish what is lost. For the record... It's always a really fun video. Stay safe out there.
Someone told me when I bought my Bond Arms derringer the .410 would only piss off an intruder no real damage. Well after seeing this I'm sure glad I got it. 1st shot 😮caught me by surprise because I was believing folks. After it woke up my hand ✋🏽 I went to 2 hand shooting 😅😂😂. It is a great truck round to rid yourself of theives.
When I think of all the discussions about human stopping power I always ask myself if I would want to be hit by whatever is being discussed. Every one of these loads would be a life ending experience at the range demonstrated. I’d like to see the birdshot at about 25 yards but even that taken in your head would most likely be terminal. Great video, thanks.
If not terminal, it would be disfiguring and a life altering experience. Not to mention maybe blindness and a complete loss of desire for criminal activity. After prison of course, LOL.
I used to have a FMJ 45/410 Dbl barrel that was great and even shot a tighter pattern than a full size single shot 410. But I think the short barrels didn't get the same energy on the shot as a longer one can. I do have a bolt action one that after replacing the fireing pin hasn't let me ever miss a clay. Just sucks that the ammo is so hard to get now.
I sooo luv when you reverse the slow mo camera and reply the clay block re-exploding! I now also have more respect for the 410. Ammo that goes 1300 fps is really fast!
1/2 ounce of lead is no joke in any gun . I was fishing 2 years ago and had on a big carp and when I was gonna slide it up on the bank it made a last run and the hook came loose , my 1/2 ounce sinker came back and hit me square in the chest and put me on the ground !
@@reaperhunter7297 It's true. My neighbor gave me 1000 rounds of .45 Long Colt, even though I didn't have a gun to use it with. He also gave me .25 acp, .410 slugs, .308, .38 special, and .357 magnum.
@@reaperhunter7297 Yeah, he's a great guy. I took him to the shooting range for his 81st birthday, and when he needed help from first responders, I was always the first.
I believe people fail to realize that when shooting a .410 bore shotgun firing 3” #7.5 @ 1135 fps payload. Each pellet has the same amount of energy as if you were shooting a 12 gauge 2.75” #7.5 @ 1135 fps. The only difference would be that there are more pieces of shot creating a longer “shot column” thereby giving the illusion of the .410 being a minuscule little child’s/woman’s gun. The real advantage is that the .410 is generally lighter and has less felt recoil. Thus making it more favorable for the more recoil sensitive. The .410 is NOT only for women and kids.
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My older WW2 Veteran neighbor had 1 gun. A single shot 410. He always got his limit of squirrels, rabbit, deer and even a black bear. He just used the right round for the right season and had excellent shot placement.
It's called making do with what you got
My favorite hunting shotgun is my single shot .410. Squirrels, dove, rabbits, and even the unlucky duck I sneak up on. Doesn't tear up the meat, low recoil, less noise, lighter, and no moving parts to fail. Too bad the ammo is hard to find. I had to start reloading my own with black powder and 209 primers with BBs.
That ww2 vet could absolutely have owned and used any gun or caliber. He chose the .410! Wisdom. Speaks volumes. They don't call them
"the greatest generation" for no reason.
What size birdshot?
What sized load for bear!?!? 😮
It's worth remembering that the .410 was at one time a much prized gangland weapon here in the UK. These people had access to the most powerful weapons of the day, but the .410 was a preferred option for many of them. The .410 was an extremely efficient close-range killer, and plenty of bad guys found out the hard way that it is definitely not a kid's gun.
Never underestimate a .410 shotgun. I was given a .410 bolt action shotgun on my 12th birthday in the early 1950s and learned then how effective it is. Your demonstration speaks volumes. There was a lot of hydrostatic shock impacting those blocks.
Great to learn with. You learn shot placement because you don't have all that volume of pellets like the 12 gauge. Just like you, I'm so glad I started with the .410
All 3 were incredible! The slug and the buckshot did about what I expected. But the birdshot, now that was a real cheese grater! Man, it really shredded that clay! Way more than I expected!
Brilliant from the slug considering the 1/2 oz slug was actually a 1/4 oz slug see 02.03 onwards and look at the packaging!
Birdshot surprised me
WHO_TEE_WHO it surprised me as well didn’t expect it to do that much damage, great stuff mate. A comparison between a 20 gauge and your little rippa.410 would be interesting cheers Yogi Australia 🇦🇺🤙🤙
The birdshot demo confirms what I have always said. That is, birdshot for home defense where over penetration could be a concern, is highly recommended and as you all can see, absolutely effective. Now take the .410 up a few notches to a 12 ga. and you have...clay stalactites hanging from the ceiling.
@@dannybarton940 T shot is unbelievable for what it could do in a personal/home defense situation.
I have owned a Savage model 24 .22lr/.410 for over 60 years now. It is absolutely the best small game/varmint rooti-tooti in my book. Being over 60 years old it still is over 90%. Blue barrel, color case hardened receiver, beautiful wood. It will be passed to my grandson .
My grandpa passed down to me a single shot 22. It was probably the first guns he had.
OMG! The bird shot did wayyyyyy more damage than I thought it would. That was brutal.
Yup. Pretty knarly
Also, home invasion is usually 10ft or less...bird-shot would make hamburger & finish the job forever with a 2nd shot!
I have known some old shooters that kept a 410 above their bed for home defense. They had a handgun in the nightstand but always told me it was the 410 they would use. They said it would take any man down and would not go through as many walls. It had less collateral damage and less chance of hitting a loved one by mistake or travel through. I had a lever-action 410 when I was young and loved it. I killed my first turkey with it way back in the early 80s when they started the first turkey hunt in N Missouri. I just bought my grandson a Rossi Matched Pair Youth .22 LR/.410 Bore Single Shot Rifle/Shotgun Combo. It is a blast to shoot and he loves it.
The .410 definitely has a place. Paul Harrel does an excellent video on it for self defense
You need shirts that say "this is about to be a really fun video" I'd buy a ton of those
Good idea
@@WHOTEEWHO do it!
@@WHOTEEWHO I can’t hit squat with 410 give me a 10 or 12 or 16 or 20 I’m good 🇬🇧🦊🐾👍🇮🇹
‘Out at the range with Heavy Metal’ on the back
Hell yes! Shut up, and take my money!
I'm 66 and old and getting more crippled every day. Lol. I bought me a Hatfield 410 over and under so I would have a shotgun that didn't kick me too much. I am well pleased with this gun it has 28 inch barrels and multiple choke tubes. I bought slugs buckshot as well as birdshot. For home defense I tend to like 3 inch number 4 shot for the pattern and penetration plus it works great on crows too. Great video have a great day and a better tomorrow
Good way to stay safe
@@tac7.625 I was actually looking for either a side by side 410 or a rifle shotgun combo but have not seen any at reasonable prices in several years. I found this one an over under 410 at a pawnshop that I have did business with in the past. What drew me to it was it was a plain gun the longer barrels 28 inch and screwin choke tubes I have never even seen a 410 with 28 inch barrels. Overall i am impressed with the balance of the gun my thoughts are the longer barrels help. As my health declines I am tending to drive to the edge of the field and set up with a cooler and chair with my sons dogs and wait the squirrels out. Overall I am well pleased with the light weight and negligible recoil ever with buckshot and slugs. We have coyotes and wild hogs also this is my reason for my .45 lol . I am now having to use a Walker most of the time due to losing my balance. Good health to you and have a great day and a better tomorrow
@@williambeasley2582 if you have the money some more powerful shotguns have very little recoil. Like the m4 or competition shotguns
My cousin shot her Abusive Husband Al. Point blank in the Heart with 410 Bird Shot! Didnt Kill Him!
@@randyherbrechtsmeier4796 I had an inmate at a state prison who suspected his wife of cheating on him the wife was 93 and he was 89 both were in a nursing home the husband had purchased a revolver and cartridges for home defense when they first married she was 21 and he was in his teens the gun and ammo were carefully hidden in his boxes. He loaded 2 bullets in the gun and shot her between the eyes the bullet traveled just under the skin and stopped at her hairline he then put the gun to his ear and pulled the trigger again the bullet lodged inside his ear pressing his hearing aid against his eardrum. They both survived and she kept both bullets till she died at the rope old age of 101.
That birdshot effect on the clay impressed me!
Love these clay block vids. I honestly think they're cooler to see than the ballistic gel even.😎
There he is! Long time no see! 😛😛😛
@@WHOTEEWHO Why I outta!😂
😝😝😝 had to say it. Just kidding you
@@WHOTEEWHO LOL, I woulda said it too!😂
I didn't expect that from the bird shot 😳
Kinda that best kept secret sorta thing. Big things can still come out of little things. Highly underestimated.
I don't know why I love the Clay. Shoot what ever caliber you want. Love it.
The Fact is; you don’t want to get shot with anything. I had a family member shot and killed with one .22 LR , also had a friend shot and killed with one .410 birdshot at about 20 yards. Both bled out very quickly.
That 410 is no joke, that definitely slapped that clay hard. I think the size of shotgun comes down to personal preference and what you are using it for.
My Dad started me out for shotguns with an old 410. In truth, it shot as straight as a rifle. It was a full choke, and would reach out much farther than expected. Made as many kills at 40 yards with a 410 as anything else.
I love how clay shows how the energy reacts . Gel has it's place but clay allows you see different things.
In my younger days I ignored the 410 but now in my senior years I love it so much I have four 410’s and reload it and I’m very pleased with its performance.
I am a 410 fan
410 is no joke. My mind has been changed!
Me too. Velocities are the same as the larger bores. There’s just less shot. Same size. Same velocity. Just les volume. Still looks like a show stopper though.
I'm just a man who like shooting, and like shotguns. So I got one in 10 gauge, 12 gauge, 16 gauge, 20 gauge, 28 gauge, and 410 lol
You need to find yourself a Winchester model 36 - 9mm shotgun.. Kind of neat...
👏👏👏😎👍
Awesome
How would you compare the kick from a 410 to a heavier caliber rifle, like .30 cal and up? Never shot one before.
I have a few 10’s also very fun to shoot with 36 inch barrels 😂
when it comes to ammo debates i think any chunk(s) of metal flying at or around the speed of sound are equally lethal and were really just debating over how much overkill is enough overkill
Awesome video Who Tee , the 410 aint no joke i reload several different loads for the 410, shot, buckshot plastic and brass hulls , it aint no toy 👍
Thanks for watching Cliff!
I have moved from 12 to 410 out of necessity. I would rather be able to throw anything at the bad guy, than nothing. Thank you for helping to prove that self defense isn't macho, it's what you have on hand
Awesome comparison. All of them were quite damaging. Everyone says, Oh it's just a little .410 kids gun!! I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of any of those rounds😧. Whooooooooo teeeeeee whooooooooo is the man!
Thanks for watching K Parker!
I like the ole 410 single. I'm 50 years old now and still have one for the squirrel woods. Cant not like it. Wasn't my first shotgun but I got one back in the day and always keep it around. Who-tee-who
I would give the FUBAR award to the Bird shot. That was some craze awesome carnage. Great video Sir!!!!
That birdshot made a nice art piece out of the clay!
Yeah, who says .410 doesn't have power. It destroyed those clay blocks with every shell. Cool video man.
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That 410 throws a nice punch. I didn't expect that! Makes me want a 410 now
I recently purchased a Rossi tuffy turkey 410. It comes with 2 choke tube modified and full.
Damn!!! I didn't expect anything like that!!! Even the bird shot kicked butt! I have a lot more respect for the 410 now. Thank you!
Me too! Thanks for watching Marshall!
you need bigger blocks of clay! great video. Love the .410 Reminton 1100. Such a sweet clay gun
And here I was considering getting rid of my old mans 410. Damn. Modern ammo very effective
Ask old-school farmers there are a lot of 410s sitting in or around barns! Great critter blaster! Whether it crawls walks or flies!
The .410 is fun to shoot, just wish more ammo was available for it. I knew the slug would explode that clay, fun video WTW!
I always thought that 410 shells were kinda pricey. But with that kind of performance I feel vindicated with purchasing so much in good times.
@Faceless King Walmart back in 2020...they had Winchester Deer slugs. It pretty much looks like a 9mm rifled bullet. They were under $3 a box of 5. I bought a few but declined when the guy asked if I wanted more since this was about maybe 4-6 months when they would enforce limits. Barely a week later, these were gone and likely being flipped on GunBroker. Now where did I put the self-ass kicking machine.....
Thank you for this very welcomed, much needed video! I don't care what your favorite firearm is a 410 is always a hoot!❤ Like you, I love the slugs!
Thanks for watching!
The .410 is a formidable round. I’ve been using and enjoying the .410 for 50 years.
My first rabbit gun at 12 was a single shot .41o ..loved that gun
My granddaughter is anxiously awaiting her .410.
I don't underestimate ammo. I use this round in my Bond Arms snake slayer which I converted to the 4" barrel. Haven't encounter any venomous snakes yet and prefer not to, but if it should happen, the snake is in trouble.
Something to think about with that 5 pellet .410 buckshot: one of those is roughly the equivalent of five shots from a Colt 1851 Navy black powder revolver.
@@MrAvidOutdoorsman 000 Buck is .36 caliber, exactly the same as an old Colt 1851. The velocity of the buckshot out of the gun is very similar to that of the 1851 Navy Revolver. Same projectile, same velocity, but 5 at the same time. (It's important to note that the 1851 Navy revolver velocity could vary greatly depending on loading. Thus I said roughly equivalent.)
The box says #4 Buck. More like a .22 round.
@@halfcirclehranch It's not 000 buck dude. There's no way a .410 could be as powerful as 5 shots from an 1851.
@@showproja I was talking specifically about the 000 Buck variant, not necessarily what was shown in the video. (I'm not going to go back and rewatch the video to find out.) #4 Buck, if I remember correctly, is .25 caliber. Next time, try responding to what somebody ACTUALLY said.
@@leeham6230 I specified the 5 pellet .410, which is, indeed, 000 Buck. In the 3 inch variant, the 2 1/2 inch version is 4 pellet. This does vary by manufacturer, I believe the 3 inch 5 pellet is Remington.
410 did more damage than I would have thought. I know that the 410 is my favorite squirrel gun. It will knock a big busytail out of a tall oak tree with #6 or 7 1/2 shot and be DRT.
I love my 410s. I love them for squirrels, rabbits, and barn pigeons.
Plus with a 410 you don’t need to let a rabbit run 30 yards away so you don’t blow it apart like with a 12 gauge. The right tool for the job. You don’t hammer tacks with a sledgehammer.
I like the smiley face on the clay. Fun video the 410 is a great little cartridge.
After watching your 12 gauge clay video it was cool to see how 410 birdshot did against clay. I'm impressed.
Thanks for watching Elvy
i just bought a Kel-Tec 410 bore shotgun. 10 3 inch, 14 21/2 inch this video was awesome. hope i never have to use it for self defense, but just in case, i know what to expect.
I love my 10,12, and 20 gauge shotguns, but I also have special place for a 410. I have an old, but good Stevens/Savage single shot, that I’ve had since I was a kid, and I still take it out hunting. Great video as usual man. Love the content.
My first shotgun was a double barrel 410 and that thing was so much fun, my dad's friend brought his to the range a few years back and it was a blast (I'll see myself out) to bust some clays with it! It had a modified choke and a full choke built into the barrels, it was tricky to shoot but very fun! My dad has talked about your channel several times, and the first time I look for a 410 slug penetration test, your video popped up. Thank you for this!
I love my 410. I have a mossberg 500 pump. I use it to rabbit hunt all the time. It does take a little more precision than a 12 gauge but none the less a fun little gun to shoot
My old man used to reload his 410 with extra shot and less powder. Still effective.
That was a really fun video. 410 is a good home defense round in my opinion. It has stopping power and not going to overpenetrating
Also have a Ithaca M-66 lever gun .410 Single shot for home protection with buckshot. Easy reload for fast shots.... IF NEEDED.
I wouldn’t want to be hit by any of those “kiddie” loads. I read years ago that only an expert bird hunter could use a .410. Never seen anything since that disproved that statement. Good video.
Grew up hunting with a single shot (no mag), bolt action .410. used to be able to take squirrels and birds at 30 yards with that bad girl. She's still my second favorite firearm, and I've happily passed her on to my wife. Though I admit I'm a little jealous, love my 12 gauge, but just doesn't have the accuracy of that little .410... Don't know if it's a mental thing on my end, or just the gun itself, but with that .410 I could thread a needle with some bird shot at 20 yards... I'm betting it's mental honestly. When you know that your lunch depends on your shot, and you've only got one shot to hit, you make sure you're on target every time. Plus, light little gun with no recoil helps.
Professional archers shoot flying birds with bows and arrows so I don't see why someone couldn't use a .410 especially if they have a super great aim . Maybe next video could be bow and arrow vs single shot .410 .
That old myth has been around for awhile. Im not an expert but i went to the shotgun range with a 410 and didnt miss any clays. Its better than you may think.
@@longhunterman2399I have an old Stevens 39A bolt action tube fed .410 I acquired as a teen, that is an absolute tack driver and has brought down it's fair share of small game, and clay pigeons.
My all time favorite day out shooting my .410 will always be one to remember. Back in the early 2000's I was with a group of friends shooting clay pigeons, mostly using 12 and 20 gauge, I was the only one that also brought a .410.
After several rounds we changed things up a bit and added in a 5th position as a cleanup shooter in the middle shooting lane, their entire job was to see if they could hit a clay that the other 4 had missed, which meant all their shots would be deep down range.
I volunteered to be the cleanup shooter, figuring I wouldn't get that many shots it wouldn't cost me that much to shoot the .410, so I and a couple boxes of 3" birdshot (2-1/2 doesn't have near the reach) and headed to the firing line.
Over the next hour or so, I had an absolute blast with the little shotgun and made several guys believers in the .410, by hitting every clay I had a shot at, they couldn't believe I was making the deep down range shots I was taking with old "kids shotgun."
Which then, devolved into us seeing who could hit a moving clay at the furthest distance with the old .410, and just having an all around good time.
Sure it didn't have the ability to absolutely powder the clays at the ranges I was shooting, but it was still breaking them up into lots of pieces, which is still enough oomph to be lethal to upland gamebirds and other assorted small game at those distances.
I never really cared for the 410, but I bought one for my 79 year old daddy and he and I are still shooting shotguns together, so I love the 410 now.
Love the clay blocks. They are always interesting to watch and to see what happens.
Always appreciate you watching!
Love a 410 i have 1 new and 1 old that was a gift none are for sale great vid thank you my friend
Welp, I'm convinced, don't piss off a man with a 410 pointed at you! 😂
The Eley Brothers in the UK invented and produced the 410 bore shotgun in 1874. It became very popular almost immediately. Now made by many manufacturers for very good reason. A world wide favorite. Versatile and powerful enough to handle most situations.
Thanks I own one and didn’t know that it went back that far. Nine years after the American Civil War
410 an 45acp are the daily driver for home defense round here🇺🇸
great video...suggestion...how about letting your children camo paint the 410 just like they did the Remington 700. I think the 410 would look great camoed up.
Good idea James
Now that was surprising! I was always a bird hunter, and as a kid I shot a 410 single shot, but I nevrer appreciated the power it had. I may be looking for a 410 now!. By the way, my eight year old son has finally become a Who Tee Who fan, and after watching your video on whatever milk jug test, decided to do his own, by seeing how many beer cans he could shoot through with his Red Rider......in the hallway, using a pillow for a BB stop! True to form he said "Dad, this is going to be a really fun video, as he made me video him with my phone. His nickname is Tooty Monster (guess where he got that name), and when he shot he went Hoo Hoo, Tooty Monster! So I wonder what he is going to try next............................
Mossberg makes a 410 Shockwave!
Looks like 410 would make a good snake gun or an emergency rabbit gun.
410 is nothing to scoff at it's a seriously badass round especially the slug
Just bought a Savage model 42, 22lr/410, compact breakdown, have a .38 special insert, 4+ lbs. great little gun. Mossberg 500e pump410 at door w/000 buckshot, Taurus Judge 45/410 at my recliner. Never felt outgunned with a 410 or a 38. I want a change in behavior and a prison sentence, not a Seagal movie murder scene w/blood all in my new carpets! Happy 410ers UNITE!
The reason that birdshot was so impressive is the speed and the weight of the shot. Those shells usually carry about 1/2 to 5/8 oz of shot. at 1,000fps, that's about the same energy as a .44 magnum .
.410 was the first firearm I got to use as a kid. I actually took a squirrel at 100 yards with a single #6 pellet hit, although I learned that even with a full choke, you shouldn't use it that far. I also have packable 20" barreled.410 which has 2 barrels, one is a smoothbore cylinder (unchoked) that I installed a set of metal Remington sights on and the other is a 20" full choke. With these two, I can hunt anything around here in a pinch. I also have a Mossberg 500 .410 that I use for rabbit hunting and home defense. I load it with 3 federal 5 pellet 000 buck and keep it where me or the wife can grab it if needed. I also make my own .410 slugs using .444 marlin brass and unique powder. I use (2) double layer cardboard wads and .41 magnum bullets flipped backwards so the big flat is forward. Out to 50 yards I shoot about 2" groups and it'll rip through multiple white oak pallet boards and shatters them good. People wouldn't think twice about using a .41 magnum pistol for defense or hunting, but then balk at a .410. I'm getting more velocity from the .410 and it hits hard. I also use 9.3x74R brass to make 3" shotshells that are reloadable easily. I load these with (5) .38 caliber round balls or #6 shot and they are a bit more powerful than the factory ones. I also reload some of the plastic hulls and have used pyrodex blackpowder in equal volume to shot to make some fun smokey loads, but I only shoot these in the single shot, (easier to clean). These are really simple to load with just a Lee .223 decapper I had laying around and a chunk of 3/8" dowel rod. That's all you need to load it. I use a piece of Richlite cutting board with a hole in it to decap into, but just a simple little hammer. I make overshot wads out of milk jug and hand punch all the wads with a 7/16" hole punch I got from sears in a set; the 5/8" works for 20 gauge, 9/16" for 16 ga and 3/4" for 12 gauge also. I found that the larger Lee dippers work good for developing loads easily for this caliber. .410 puts a lot less pellets in game, kicks a lot less and my Mossberg is about the same weight as an over-under 20 gauge my buddy uses for rabbit hunting.
I need to get into reloading! I had picked up a H&R 410 single shot for my boy to start with and learn on,but didn’t realize the ammo was going to be next to impossible to find and not even be able to shoot it 😒 I don’t ever want to be in this boat again! What press would you recommend?
@@Petryfied I don't use a press personally. If you are only doing a few loads here and there, you really don't need one. If you are doing a lot, I'd get a MEC 600 Jr. Check around on boards. I've seen them used for as little as $100, but it's rare. I have fun doing the ones I need with hand tools though. ;) If you want fancy wads that is where the biggest expense lies in reloading them.
Good clean country boy fun. All 3 were surprisingly impressive. The birdshot actually was the biggest surprise. I wouldn't wish to be shot by any of them.
410 is no joke does as much damage as a 12 gauge thanks for making this video from.
KEEP BLOWING THEM UP.
As much as 12 gauge? LOL. How do you figure?
A 410 is my preferred caliber of choice for home defense. At close range, as you have just shown, someone is going to have a very bad day.
I've used the .410 since I was 8 or 9 about 45 years total , Killed a lot of rabbits, squirrels and a few pheasants and grouse when the opportunity arose. If you can hit and cleanly harvest game with the .410 you can shoot. I am in the middle on the debate, Low recoil makes it great for beginners, Small shot payloads make it expert wingshooter friendly.
Any of them .410 shots would be lethal if they land directly on the face. Another excellent learning video!!
I would like to see a clay shoot between the .410 and a .28 gauge
STARTED HUNTING IN THE FIELD AT 9 YEARS OLD, USED A 410 WITH 7.5 SHOT ON DOVES. TEXAS HAS A LOT OF DOVES, ALWAYS GOT MY LIMIT. THE 410 MADE ME A BETTER BIG GAME SHOT WHEN WE MOVED TO WYOMING. 410, A GREAT GUN THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER SHOT.
Learned how to rabbit hunt with a 410 single shot full choke. I've had that gun for over 40 years. I wanna say it's a sears and roebuck
410 may be much smaller than 20 0r 12 gauge, but it's no slouch at close range.
Heck yea!!!!! Love the slug. And some think the .410 isn't enough for home protection???
If it goes boom then it's a good time no matter the size it's how you use it.
I love my Henry lever action .410. I mounted an RMR on it. Zeroed it at 100 yds with slugs, but have not shot clay to see how it does out that far.
I am an Australian. We knew the .410 (birdshot) as a "Collector" or sometimes as an "Orchard gun"
Since I picked up a 410 pump shotgun during the pandemic I've become a believer. My 12 gauge is locked away and probably won't come back out unless I decide I want to sell it. 410 is more fun to shoot, less prone to kill the neighbors in a home defense situation, and will absolutely get the job done. I have some Winchester Double X Diamond Grade .410 GA birdshot that I want to test for potential HD use. I use buckshot or pdx1 defender currently but if the high velocity turkey load tests well I might load that first as a "warning" shot, lol.
I still squirrel hunt with a 410 single shot I got when I was 9 years old. That makes 53 years of squirrel getting with it.
That is so awesome
The .410 is not really a weaker load than a 12 gauge, the projectiles are going about as fast, there's just less of them or less weight if it's a slug but they are still travelling and hitting just as hard. Those semi-auto .410 shotguns are low recoil and still extremely lethal for example. Thinking of something like those AK pattern .410s. Plus if it's box fed you can fit more of them in a magazine than a 12 gauge. I think WTW should buy an AK pattern gun in .410! I reckon they are awesome. Even makes for a very viable home defence piece that anyone can use well.
Results aren't too surprising to me. I've been on the .410 train for around 10 years or so now. The Taurus Judge is really what turned me on towards it, especially once handgun specific loads were developed. I've taken deer, hogs, and other small game with the .410 to great effect and have zero doubts about it's capability defensively speaking. Yes. it's no 12 or 20 gauge in terms of overall power but it's more than enough for most medium to small game and personal protection.
I'm a big fan of those Winchester 3 inch 1/4 oz slugs. They are my personal favorite for deer and hog hunts and have them loaded up in one of my .410 pumps for home defense. I see more and more people getting turned on to the .410 as a viable option these days. It just sucks .410 availability is at an all time low. I had the good sense to stock up on a lot before times were bad but it makes it much harder to want to shoot for fun knowing how little is out there to replenish what is lost.
For the record... It's always a really fun video. Stay safe out there.
Someone told me when I bought my Bond Arms derringer the .410 would only piss off an intruder no real damage. Well after seeing this I'm sure glad I got it. 1st shot 😮caught me by surprise because I was believing folks. After it woke up my hand ✋🏽 I went to 2 hand shooting 😅😂😂. It is a great truck round to rid yourself of theives.
2:20 *takes of hat* “CRIKEY!”
This is about to be a really fun video.
I agree
Yep can confirm. It was very fun to watch this one! I love my 410!
Amazing great video
WOW The cavity from the slug !
When I think of all the discussions about human stopping power I always ask myself if I would want to be hit by whatever is being discussed. Every one of these loads would be a life ending experience at the range demonstrated. I’d like to see the birdshot at about 25 yards but even that taken in your head would most likely be terminal. Great video, thanks.
If not terminal, it would be disfiguring and a life altering experience. Not to mention maybe blindness and a complete loss of desire for criminal activity. After prison of course, LOL.
I used to have a FMJ 45/410 Dbl barrel that was great and even shot a tighter pattern than a full size single shot 410.
But I think the short barrels didn't get the same energy on the shot as a longer one can.
I do have a bolt action one that after replacing the fireing pin hasn't let me ever miss a clay.
Just sucks that the ammo is so hard to get now.
I did not expect that. 410 birdshot is more powerful than I thought.
I sooo luv when you reverse the slow mo camera and reply the clay block re-exploding!
I now also have more respect for the 410. Ammo that goes 1300 fps is really fast!
Wow! Truly amazing! I highly respect the 410 after this video! WTW
I thought .410 was pretty cool. They have some fun specialty rounds.
1/2 ounce of lead is no joke in any gun . I was fishing 2 years ago and had on a big carp and when I was gonna slide it up on the bank it made a last run and the hook came loose , my 1/2 ounce sinker came back and hit me square in the chest and put me on the ground !
Holy crap. Well, this video changed my mind on the .410, thanks for sharing.
At this point, I stopped buying ammo for the guns that I have, and started buying guns for the ammo that I have stocked up on.
Good idea
Lol I like it 👍
@@reaperhunter7297 It's true. My neighbor gave me 1000 rounds of .45 Long Colt, even though I didn't have a gun to use it with. He also gave me .25 acp, .410 slugs, .308, .38 special, and .357 magnum.
@@seanomeirs8362 dang sounds like a good neighbor
@@reaperhunter7297 Yeah, he's a great guy. I took him to the shooting range for his 81st birthday, and when he needed help from first responders, I was always the first.
I believe people fail to realize that when shooting a .410 bore shotgun firing 3” #7.5 @ 1135 fps payload. Each pellet has the same amount of energy as if you were shooting a 12 gauge 2.75” #7.5 @ 1135 fps. The only difference would be that there are more pieces of shot creating a longer “shot column” thereby giving the illusion of the .410 being a minuscule little child’s/woman’s gun. The real advantage is that the .410 is generally lighter and has less felt recoil. Thus making it more favorable for the more recoil sensitive.
The .410 is NOT only for women and kids.
A coworker/friend of mine keeps 2 pump shotguns loaded bird, buck, slug in his house at all times. He calls it "warning, stop it, dead."
410 has been my rabbit hunting gun for at least 25 years and i have no complaints the object of the hunt is to save as much meat as possible
You should be baking and selling those blocks after you shoot them..... snobby NYC types would think it modern works of art
You gotta give it some fancy description about it representing some sort of oppression. New York art types eat that stuff up
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Finding myself semi-addicted, binge-watchin’ some of your older stuff bud. Enjoyin’ the bejeezuz out of it all. Thank you WHO_TEE. 😁
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