I need to correct an error in this video. The new road tax price for the oldest EVs (registered before 31st March 2017) will be £20 a year, not £10. I think. Even the GOV website shows both £10 and £20 in different places! Just also to add as I missed this off the video.... If you lease your vehicle, the contract will most likely include road tax, so the funder will be paying it.
Not sure but I think the £20 low emission ice VANs will be £345 it’s very unclear on the website. Also if a NEW 2025 car over £40k pays the luxury tax for 5 years what happens to a pre registered car where you are in effect the second owner? Is this a massive loophole or have they thought about this?
The rarified world of the wealthy politician is often difficult to comprehend for mere proles like ourselves. Luckily they have a plan to eliminate us (for the environment apparently)
@@johncolley3317 I have absolutely no problem with paying my fair share in taxes, a civilised society couldn't function without them. Unfortunately the Tories spent the last 14 years lining their own pockets at everyone else's expense whist cutting taxes for themselves, running all our public services into the ground so they could privatise them & take even more money from us.
@Brian-om2hh 15 minute cities anyone ?. You will own nothing and be happy!! Plus you will live in your pod, eat bugs, and only be allowed to travel as far as the nwo wants you to 🤷♂️.
But what happens when sales volumes of petrol continue falling, and less and less fuel duty is collected? The government are going to need a replacement system of taxation - pay per mile......
@@Brian-om2hhIt’s a simple solution, really. EV’s could pay duty on the electricity via compulsory smart charging. A simple solution but you will be told that it’s not possible for some made up reason or another. Government don’t want it because they are desperate to bring in pay per mile. It was always the plan. It was never an option not to replace the £28B in taxation that rule duty affords the government.
@@GoGreenAutosI would like to agree but every EV that’s close to being affordable is butt ugly imo and not unlike an Amazon box on wheels. All the good looking ones cost the same as a small house. If you are spending good money on transport you at least need to like what you are driving imo…..
@@GoGreenAutos Both you and me are convinced and are on the same page. But it's the general pubic and the sceptics that need some sort of reason to at least try an electric car. It was only through the government rebate scheme in 2015 that I purchased a Nissan leaf, and have been pro EV since then.
PPM is crap as well, who gave the MPs authority to treat us like slaves to thier command? Everyday people are suffering in England, politics is out of control"!
The government cannot afford not to have cars on the roads. They would lose the £35 billion per year in taxes they collect from the motorist. And this 15 minute cities thing is just utter nonsense. The nation's economy couldn't function if people were restricted to within 15 minutes of where they lived. Quit reading garbage.
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 Either way they re reaping havoc and bloody Labour voters let them in. More misery, huge rises for civil servants. £80K for a guy that drives a bloody train. In the meantime our soldiers in the military are on less that a third of that.
Fuck buying any new car, u only get hammered with Vat as 1st buyer anyway, used car prices will gradually creep up, people don't earn enough in the UK to throw 40K at a feckin giant Scalextric, that's why 90% of em are on rental, personally I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole, all ticking fire bombs.
This is gr8 news, the extra money will pay towards repairing the pot holes, the again Oh No It Won't, none of the Road Tax gets spent on the road. Rip Off Britain.....
But we already have pay per mile in the form of fuel duty (and VAT on the fuel as well). But in an electric future, we need an alternative. We certainly don't want duty increased on electricity that fuels our homes, businesses, hospitals, etc etc. Pay per mile is the fairest way. The alternative is to just make VED a lot more expensive. But that cripples those that need a car but don't use it much, especially in rural communities where there's no public transport.
Remember the days when governments were talking about EVs getting free parking, free charging, use of bus lanes and all sorts of bribery? I'm sticking to my old diesel for now.
That would be fun getting my bicycle flatened in the buslane by an EV. The thing is,cars are supposed to use the buslane outside buslane hours, but they don't use it, efectively driving in lane 2
Yes it is, exactly what happened a few years back enticing people to buy diesel cars now if you own a diesel vehicle you are frowned upon and detrimental to the environment.
Yes I’m taxing my EV in March, luckily tax avoidance is not a crime whereas tax evasion is. This is not morally wrong it’s just thinking outside of the box. On pay per mile be careful what you wish for as they are likely to make it eye watering expensive for everyone. To meet their net zero targets they don’t want cars on the roads. To achieve this they are/will introduce higher taxes, low emissions zones, ULEZ, low traffic and congestion zones, 15 minute cities, increased parking fees, toll roads etc, etc.
They, them, us. Be careful with these words. The government is democratically elected by us, for us as a nation. What is decided by the elected government is on our behalf.
@ only 20% of voters voted for this government, “they” lied to get into power. Mass immigration and pay per mile are the brainchild of .. Can you guess who?
Why would you want to spend £39k? Britain's 3rd cheapest new car is an EV. It costs £15k. Or you could go for the Focus sized MG4 hatchback, at £27k new.... A new Focus starts at £28k. Why do you feel you *have* to buy new? I saw someone get a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, for £4400 not long ago....
@@Brian-om2hhEvery EV car that’s close to being affordable is butt ugly and not unlike an Amazon box on wheels. All the good looking ones cost the same as a small house. If you are spending good money on transport you at least need to like what you are driving imo…..
What the hell are you talking about "PAY PER MILE"??? NO, WE SHOULD NOT PAY ANYTHING PER MILE! We already pay road tax and taxes in fuel prices. Stop making it sound like it's a good idea.
Well you're already paying per mile as that is what fuel duty and the VAT on top is effectively doing. But in an electric future, we need an alternative method as we wouldn't want to increase duty on electricity that fuels our houses, businesses, schools, hospitals etc.
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 You’re only telling half the story. It’s lower running costs if you can charge at home, but if I have to use public charging I take my wife’s petrol car as it’s cheaper. Definitely cleaner I’ll give you that. Smoother ? Well maybe, but spoilt by road/tyre noise which I don’t hear in an ICE car. Cheaper servicing ? Nope, my EV gets main dealer servicing and it’s 90% the price of an equivalent ice car. I’m not buying your story, sorry
Utter codswallop, please stop peddling that old chestnut. That's The Mirror's misinformation at its best. It is absolutely not a given that EV's are heavier than their ICE equiv. And there are plenty of beefy ICE vehicles. However, EV's are vehicles that use the roads and should pay tax like any other.
They only have 4 years to shaft us. No doubt they will go full shaft mode for those next 4 years, be voted out never ever to return. Labour and the Tories have forgotten who puts them in power. Road tax is out of control, but it’s any easy money grab. Labour are a disaster, they are a fiscally astute as a pork scratching.
If everyone in the UK stop waking for one day then the government will lose but it will never happen because the ones brave British people have all gone
Lol the UK gov never ceases to amaze. Everything they do is just wrong. The UK has the highest cost of electricity at the moment, filling up an average tank of a petrol car that does same mileage as an electric car is roughly 2x of charging an electric car if you charge at home. Electric cars are in higher insurance group and their insurance premium is around 30% to 100% higher than similar value petrol cars. Electric cars depreciate much faster in value after driving for 1-2 years in comparison to petrol cars as well. Yet, the UK gov is introducing some weird ass taxes while complaining that the manufacturers are not meeting Ev sales targets.
The solution is glaringly simple. Get an EV. I charge at home for an 8th of the cost of using petrol. It costs me £4 to £5 per week to drive around 200 miles.
@@Brian-om2hh kwh is around 25p in the UK for home charging. £5/0.25p = 20kwh Average driving with some heating gives 3.5miles per kwh. So 20x3.5 = 70 miles range for £5 If you drive super efficiently, almost no heating, new car, towing less weight, no harsh acceleration etc. You will get 6-7 miles per kwh. Lets say 6 miles. 20x6 = 120 miles range for £5. To achieve 200 miles per £5 spent, you either receive 33kwh of electricity for the £5 which makes your kwh rate 15p (not seen that low rates in the UK) or you drive very efficiently at 10 miles per kwh. As far as I know, no Ev can do that except some ev motorcycles. At best you will get 8 miles per kwh but thats like perfect conditions driving. IE: No wind, no need of heating, carrying nobody in the car except you, no extra weight, tyres inflated perfectly, no traffic and no harsh acceleration or slowing down etc.
@@Brian-om2hh And you think it will remain like that, bless. They have already started winding up the costs for EVs. Also, I don't personally want to be driving around in a potential inferno.
@@iaprm "kwh is around 25p in the UK for home charging." Wrong! I'm paying 7p per kWh. Year in, year out. Annually averaging over 4 miles per kW using heating/cooling when needed and driving quicker than in my old petrol and diesel vehicles. 200 miles costs me around £3.50, a bit less in the spring, summer, autumn, more in the winter.
Exactly that - not just the stupidly implemented and misnamed 'expensive car supplement' (aka the luxury car tax) but I think the introduction of VED for cars previously rated as £0 will tend to depress the take up of used EVs and depress the car market generally.
Here in NZ I've just paid $400 [200 Pounds] to buy 5,000 kilometres [3,000 miles] road user charge.[the same as diesel vehicles].Used to be nothing until the beginning of this year.EV sales have tanked accordingly.They also dropped the govt. cashback [up to $8,000].Now they'r going to double the accident liability component of the annual road tax bill for EVs.They also reduced funds for more EV charging stations which was an election "promise". Fossil fuel companies have the upper hand with this right wing coalition it seems.
How does imposing a massive tax on new EVs encourage people to buy them? I currently have a diesel Ford Focus which will be 10 years old next year. I had been intending to go electric next year but the punitive tax is persuading me to hang on to the diesel instead.
The VED on electric cars will be set at a level which incentivises EV ownership, meaning it will cost more to tax an ICE car. It appears it may be set at around the £180 per year mark for EV's. However, if you can charge at home, then an off-peak EV tariff will allow you to fully charge a typical EV for around £4 to £5, which could provide you with around 200 miles of driving, so the savings will soon mount up.... Octopus Energy have a tariff which can occasionally give you free charging, depending on the demand on the grid.
@@Brian-om2hhThat’s the problem in many areas, if you can’t charge at home and can’t get an EV you are penalised for where you live in the form of higher taxes for your ICE. This government virtue signalling is costing the average Joe, it’s unfair and not right on so many levels…
Roadworks take years in the U.K. must be costing millions in wasted money in China a 2year U.K. equivalent job would take a week that’s why road tax is so expensive we need a “department of government expenditure” same as the US is going to install , governments waste soooo much money it’s unbelievable
That's because the dodgy and slow private companies that are used by the highways agency are government donors. Had a German in the van the other day driving down the M6 and he couldn't believe that it was still down to two lanes after two months since the last time he was here and didn't look like anything had been done. He pointed out that in Germany the company doing the work would be fined for the delay and probably never pick up another government contract.
Road Tax was abolished in 1937. You now pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED). The funds collected from VED are not ringfenced for roads, but just go into the general taxation pot.
I've saved around £7k by no longer buying petrol in the 3 years I've had my EV. You're the one being conned each time you fill up with petrol, You pay one of the World's highest rates of fuel duty, using earnings you *already* got taxed on. I call that a double whammy con.... I pat 5% VAT on the electricity I use to charge my car.
@ Good for you. How much is the depreciation on your car? From my research it’s astronomical. Tyres and brakes wear out quicker. Replacing the batteries is mega bucks. The initial cost of buying is much higher than a petrol car, and you don’t have to keep charging it. I’ll stick to my petrol car that gives 50 mpg.
@@stuarthall2523you know nothing. One example of your ignorance is that EVs have regenerative braking and very rarely use the actual brakes so pads can last over 200,000 miles also batteries have been proved to outlive the car
One of the reasons I will never get a newer car is the new VED tax bands. I'll stick to £35 a year on my Toyota Auris. I get two full tanks of premium petrol in tax savings compared to you and your £195 a year EV tax.
Brilliant news everyone who uses the roads should pay...... It used to Road fund licence for the roads untill all governments decided to tax it on emissions as they can raise more money that way under the green net zero madness.
There’s absolutely no way I’m buying a car that results in a £600 a year car tax. Also disagree with the charge per mile model as it’s an additional tax on individuals who have no option but to drive for work, career needs etc. The change in tax position is simply going to result in people buying older more polluting cars and that will significantly impact on the trade and used prices.
Which electric cars have you tried to insure? Insurance costs for most cars aren't getting any cheaper. It isn't just an electric car issue. Even home insurance costs are rising.
@@datrenarakiel8202 Oh dear, another one. Did you even realise that around 300 petrol and diesel cars catch fire *each day* in Britain? Yet only around 250 electric cars have caught fire in Britain in the 12 years or so since they've been on the market. Which is the higher risk? 300 per day, or around 250 in 12 years? You've read all the EV scare stories and you've believed them.
"Cost of living crisis"...a phrase that clearly hasn't resonated with these buffoons in govt! This could decimate an already clobbered auto industry. Almost as if this 'money grab' has no limits
Never, ever, suggest something like in 2:00 because politicians will not use a pay-per-mile system instead but add it on top. How I know this ? I live in Norway. Any car site should NEVER suggest any tax at all, just be against the unfair and any tax that is not used for road infrastructure.
@@Shandybrother Oil industry in Norway have a deal with gov. of free electricity against 50% base tax on all oil products. Then comes the gas tax and diesel tax, + VAT on the whole thing. And since oil is sold in USD and most is invested it is Blackrock and Vanguard that get rich, not so much Norway. But everything gets expensive due to high taxes on everythiing
Showing a picture of Rachael Reeves and Starmer when talking about the introduction of VED for EVs from 2025 is disingenuous and deliberately misleading, don’t you think? Announced by the Tory Government in the 2022 Autumn Budget, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt stated: “To make our motoring tax system fairer I've decided that electric vehicles will no longer be exempt from Vehicle Excise Duty (VED).”
@ I think Labour have enough to do to repair the wrecking ball results of the previous government. I’m sure they’ll get round to it - eventually - maybe in 14 years time you might see something that resembles a working country again.
Electric will never be cheaper in the long run, when the fuel tax revenue lost has to be replaced somehow. Remember when we were all encouraged to go diesel?!
VED is about paying to maintain roads. So any tax break like has been happening with EVs is unjustifiable. Especially given the fact they are much more expensive than petrol/diesel counterparts so only the wealthy can afford them. They are heavier and do more damage to roads, so VED should be higher if anything.
I will absolutely be taxing my ev’s in March 2025. This whole taxation system is wrong. I had an old Fabia -£20/pa and it’ll stay that until it’s wheels fall off. How is it fair to change the original band a car was bought under? More cars will be sorn’d and only taxed when really needed…so Reeves will end up costing the DVLA money, not grabbing it gleefully.
Teaching your car or van next match before the tax rises is morally right if it's not illegal! It's certainly more morally right than MP'S DRAWING £3600 A YEAR FOR A SECOND PROPERTY AFTER TALKING THE PENSIONERS WINTER FUEL PAYMENT AWAY!
Road tax/council tax/VAT/Tv licence/income tax/breathing tax to come. Tax tax tax tax. What kind of economy is this?? Everything is based on tax!! Wtf.
The reason why not many EVs in the UK are not below £40,000 is because a £40,000 EV in the UK contains £10,000 of cumulative British government taxes. In other words it should be a £30,000 car. Why an ATTO 3 is £12,000 to £13,000 more expensive in the UK than Australia and £22,000 more expensive than in China.
By increasing the VED as of 1st April '25 , the current Government is adding another penalty on those that buying shopping online or from a supermarket, as they will have to pay the larger taxes and these will be passed on to us the consumers. Typical Labour Government, screw the little man by any means possible.
Simple solution, just buy a 40 year old car. No road tax, no mot, ulez exempt and I pay just £55 per year for comprehensive insurance. Cheap to maintain, nobody wants to steal it and it will increase in value, providing you keep it roadworthy. Why buy an electric vehicle which will probably end up on the scrap heap in 10 years time! Comments please!
To stick it to the man, could you Sorn your vehicle for one day on the 1st of March, then Tax it again the following day for 12 months at your usual cheaper rate, to avoid being ripped off for the first year? You know the billions raised by the price hike has nothing to do with the environment and the money's never spent on the roads!
You don't need to SORN it first. You can just retax it in March as I showed in the video. I did this in March 2024 on all our EVs, just in case the online system didn't allow it in March 24.
If he hadn't got stopped driving earlier this year, my elderly father's wreck of a Ford Focus turbo diesel would shortly be attracting less road tax than my Fiat 500e. Looks like all the critics who warned us about the UK government doing a dirty on BEV drivers were right.
Top tip about current EV being able to renew for another 12m in March! Thanks. Mines due in September so that will give me a further 6m FOC. To not increase the expensive car threshold, in line with inflation is verging on criminal. They say they want everyone to change to EVs, then they slap an outrageous surcharge on most new EVs. Can’t they see this will slow down the EV uptake considerably. Utter Morons.
I’m really surprised that EV manufacturers haven’t produced something like a really basic model without all the bells and whistles, but bigger batteries for increased mileage.
Thanks for this, I was going to get my first EV this year (a Fiat 500e around ‘71 plate), I shall bring it forward now to March to get the zero tax benefit for a year! Subscribed!
Selling the EV concept is now as big a folly as the EV proposal. EV's may work for some local drivers but they are not the answer. The answer is zero point free energy but we can't have it as the world is an oil based economy.
@@Brian-om2hh 1950 we have only 10 years of oil left, 1960 we have only 10 years of oil left, 1970 we have only 10 years of oil left, 1980 we have only 10 years of oil left, 1990 we have only 10 years of oil left, 2000 we have only 10 years of oil left, 2010 we have only 10 years of oil left, 2020 we have only 10 years of oil left. 2024 Oil reserves still in extreme abundance. Oil is the blood of the Earth - it is a self replicating eternal resource and not a fossil fuel.
@@Brian-om2hh And as the oil monopoly fades, a new one will emerge with the pricing of electricity which will be controlled and supplied at the rate that the energy producing companies (and their shareholders) will decide. Using a single source of energy for virtually everything is not a good idea.
I know. That's why we need another form of pay per mile to replace the current pay per mile system used in the past in the form of fuel duty and VAT on top.
I'm no EV fan but many idiotwagon diesel and hybrid SUVs out there weigh far more than smaller EVs. Charging by weight would be a good way forward to replace the whole shebang. Co2 is pretty discredited as a measure - and of course impossible to calculate for an EV. If it was made in China it was probably made from coal-fired power (everything from the steel to chemical processing for the batteries, to assembly).
I haven't been able to afford a car for over a decade and sold my beloved 9 year-old Micra in 2012. I'm skint and can't afford public transport, so have been reduced to either walking or riding a poxy bicycle (£130 from Halfords over 15 years ago) ever since. I'm in the north of England, slap-bang in the middle of bicycle-hatingJeremy Clarkson country; riding a bike is a cold, wet, dangerous and utterly miserable pursuit. Having said that, it's all I can afford and if any bright spark tries taxing me off the road, I'll be starting a 1-woman revolution. The government will get a right good slapping. (UA-cam will remove my Comment if I say what I really want to in Monty Python terms. Its prissy auto-censorship algorithms don't 'get' British humour.)
The issue with this is that they are taxing high emission vehicles where there often isn't an EV equivalent available yet. So if you want a sports cabrio, your only option is a MG Cyberster. Or if you want a tow vehicle, it's only the Maxus eTerron9 or a Munro 4x4.
They, them, us. Be careful with these words. The government is democratically elected by us, for us as a nation. What is decided by the elected government is on our behalf.
I feel it was obvious EVs would eventually be subject to a VEL cost but I don't consider it morally wrong to pre tax an EV as the hike in cost is ridiculously high when you consider the current rates for ICE vehicles.
The roads are becoming progressively worse & we are expected to pay more tax? Where exactly is this money being spent? Judging by my experience it’s not on the roads. This is an insult!
Just one idea...Fixed price for first 3 years, then variable based on MoT records as mileage is captured then. No equipment, cameras, new databases needed.
What a great informative video. I’ve already retaxed both our EVs in March 24 to be prepared and gain another free year. We have to spread this news rapidly
Pay per mile would mean i would have to give up my job! I do 52 miles per day just commuting. I bought an efficient EV (Ioniq 38kwh) so i could keep thar job! Hopefully in 4 years time the next government will introduce a fair system for all fuel types because i can't see Labour getting back in!
EV excise tax was announced by the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, in the Autumn Statement delivered to Parliament on November 17, 2022. It's wrong to show an image of the Labour government.
I have an EV Jaguar i pace 2020 plate.Registered July 2020 Can i tax it in March 2020 ? to get £0 car tax for the year. On the new tax system do you pay tax from April to April or from when your car was registered. I bought the car for over £20,000 but the list price was £65,000 I assume i will only have to pay £195 for as long as i keep the car. All the pre April 2025 new cars will sell for a premium as you will get taxed an extra £2,050 over the first 6 years on cars registered from April 2025..
Yes, re-tax it in March to get another year at no cost, as I showed at the end of the video. Then the following year it will be £195 plus the RPI increase.
Pay per mile is unfair as it discriminates against lower earners living in the countryside as opposed to wealthier city slickers and also those who can't afford to live near where they work and hence travel more, it's a stupid idea and if introduced open to exploitation by government, being able to travel anywhere is a right, £195.00, even a bit more say £250.00 is good value for a years access to the UK's road network for all cars including EVs. This governments lack of support for EVs with the expensive car tax simply discourages many families from spending that extra, more than they really can budget for already, for a clean green alternative, makes no sense on any level unless you think like "Rachel from Complaints".
Conflation. To play evil's advocate, you must understand that the "right" of being able to travel anywhere doesn't mean the government are forced enable your preferred method of travel, whether it be driving, flying, or Elon's rocket ship. You have legs, a train/bus ticket, or a push bike, so feel to use those methods to travel the world.
Pay per mile already exists in fuel duty at 52.95 pence per liter plus 20% VAT. The more fuel you use the more tax you pay. Meanwhile EV drivers can charge with no duties on electricity and at 5% VAT. Want to pay less tax? Drive an EV.
Definitely be taxing my 2018 Zoe early in March to get another 12 months free, crazy that 1 year difference in registration date on identical model is such a huge extra cost.
Paying based on mile and weight is the only thing that makes sense if the tax is truly to help pay for road maintenance. The fact that it isn't only shows that's not the true intention. Same thing here in US, really disappointing.
And why do the people promoting EV's seem to think by owning one the climate will change. Especially here in the UK thats adds just 1% to emissions. All we will achieve is being bankrupt and getting a bit closer to a politicians target of net zero. Utter madness.
I was told by my former MP that the expensive car supplement is fair to ensure “those who can afford to pay, pay”. This is the craftiest British tax ever because very few people who drive the kinds of cars this affects are willing to criticise it because doing so makes them look hard up. The Gov really tapped into that ‘keeping up with the jones’ vulnerability.
Same argument for VAT on private school fees, which will just end up pushing kids into state schools which can't cope already and have no spaces. The end result is any extra tax is swallowed up by funding extra state school places and lowering the quality of state education as the classes are crowded.
@@GoGreenAutos 100%. Though that is just a political push against what 2TK and his cronies see as privilege. Given that education is precisely the core 'charitable purpose', this vicious push against private schools is nothing short of spite. I would say that 2TK is a socialist evil genius but instead I think he's just an easily led prat.
And it’s ridiculous punitive policies like this that are killing the new car industry, adversely affecting working class people (the majority of which buy cars second hand and can’t afford to buy an electric car that will depreciate faster than a car falling from a plane) and don’t have home charging available to them that the government is determined to screw over the most in some desperate and deluded ploy to reach net zero, even though we’ve largely exported our manufacturing and industry overseas, so that we can have a clean conscience about the environment and feel morally righteous and superior about the fact, even though the UK contributes 2% to global emissions.
Your video implies that it is the current government that introduced these changes. This is completely untrue. The 2023 Autumn Statement by the then Conservative government set the new rates which applied to ICE vehicles from April 2024 and EV's from 2025. Please don't mislead.
I disagree. The new Government wanted to make new EVs more attractive, so changed the rates for all new vehicles regardless of powertrain. They could have made any changes they wanted, but instead kept the luxury tax threshold at £40K. As an EV driver, I agree that I should pay road tax. The video was not a swipe at Labour, it was just stating facts and figures. So I disagree there was any misleading there.
The new government has a lot more stuff still to deal with than this system that the Tories have had in place for years, it costs a huge amount of money to have any new system of tax tested and planned out, it's not something that can be done with a snap of the fingers, essentially EV's need to start paying tax we all know it, this system is what we've got and blaming labour shows real shortsightedness. People complaining about some older ice vehicles being cheaper than EV's need to understand they can only go so far back when retroactively changing tax bands it happened when the old old tax system was replaced 20 years ago when it was based on engine size. I do believe there should have been a higher threshold for expensive EV's because they actually cost more upfront and we pay less in filling up so that should have been taken into account and maybe been 45 or 50k for EV's
@@GoGreenAutos The rates are those which carried over. Given just how much the government has to do at the moment to sort 14 years of economic illiteracy and ideological stupidity there is only so much that can be achieved in 6 months. Where was all the protesting in April 2024 when these rates became law?
Alternatively, it’s morally wrong not to adequately fund the NHS, education, defence, social security, justice and the rest. So taxes need to rise and the government needs to find funds.
@@spsmith45 trouble is, just as junk expands to fill all available space, so does government waste expand to fill all available income. I have precisely zero confidence any tangible benefit will ever come from these tax increases.
Yeah Starmer get these roads fixed with all the extra VED MONEY YOU HAVE MAGICALLY PULLED OUT OF THE POOR MOTORIST AGAIN I AM ASHAMED TO HAVE VOTED FOR YOU I VOTED LABOUR BUT STARMER YOU ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH A TYPICAL LABOUR GOVERNMENT YOU ARE A SHAMBLES
I need to correct an error in this video. The new road tax price for the oldest EVs (registered before 31st March 2017) will be £20 a year, not £10. I think. Even the GOV website shows both £10 and £20 in different places!
Just also to add as I missed this off the video....
If you lease your vehicle, the contract will most likely include road tax, so the funder will be paying it.
You should change your name. Nothing green about your vehicles. Just stupid people falling for the whims of the elite enjoy your road tax
You need to correct the error of calling a tax "road tax".
Road tax was abolished in 1937.
Not sure but I think the £20 low emission ice VANs will be £345 it’s very unclear on the website.
Also if a NEW 2025 car over £40k pays the luxury tax for 5 years what happens to a pre registered car where you are in effect the second owner? Is this a massive loophole or have they thought about this?
@@Nickbaldeagle02 there's no one that calls it Vehicle Exise Duty. It's tax, because it is tax. 😂
Up the road tax and vat on cars and pay the old there fuel money
40K IS NO LONGER AN EXPENSIVE CAR? FKKING WELL IS TO ME
It's 5 grand more than I paid for my 4 bedroom house 30 years ago.
The rarified world of the wealthy politician is often difficult to comprehend for mere proles like ourselves.
Luckily they have a plan to eliminate us (for the environment apparently)
An expensive luxury car these days is more like £80K
@@johncolley3317 I have absolutely no problem with paying my fair share in taxes, a civilised society couldn't function without them. Unfortunately the Tories spent the last 14 years lining their own pockets at everyone else's expense whist cutting taxes for themselves, running all our public services into the ground so they could privatise them & take even more money from us.
And now labour are doing the same. Left and right cheeks of the same butt.
just goes to show that no matter what kind of car you drive , the government dont want youy to drive at all
The government cannot afford not to have people driving. They would lose the £35 billion per year they collect from the UK motorist....
@Brian-om2hh 15 minute cities anyone ?. You will own nothing and be happy!! Plus you will live in your pod, eat bugs, and only be allowed to travel as far as the nwo wants you to 🤷♂️.
How do you come to that conclusion? It makes absolutely no sense..
As Jessie J. sang "It's All About The Money, money, money!" All we are is cattle and we are here to be milked dry!
@@enaudeni Sounds like you might need to talk to some one. There are help lines.
I already pay per mile, fuel duty.
You will own nothing comrade and be happy.
But what happens when sales volumes of petrol continue falling, and less and less fuel duty is collected? The government are going to need a replacement system of taxation - pay per mile......
@@Brian-om2hhIt’s a simple solution, really.
EV’s could pay duty on the electricity via compulsory smart charging.
A simple solution but you will be told that it’s not possible for some made up reason or another.
Government don’t want it because they are desperate to bring in pay per mile.
It was always the plan.
It was never an option not to replace the £28B in taxation that rule duty affords the government.
@@patt6246100% So true . Techno feudalism is already here Comrade 👍🏻
@@BionicRusty Everyone in the UK pays 5% VAT on electricity so the government already get's it's cut.
Politicians are the biggest threat to the quality of life to the working man and woman in this country.
It's the WEF and other lobbies behind them. They laugh.
@@merkeet🎯
Labour hate us. They hate you being Independent of Government control
Repeating the billionaires mantra
Can’t agree more!!
£40,000 absolutely is expensive ! I couldn't dream of paying that much for a car.
You might be paying £10000 for a used car with a list price of £41000.
Well thank god some people do, if it was not for these people then you would not have any nice second hand cars would you.
Some Insurance companies won’t insure your EV if charging out side of your house 😮
@@jimbo2629exactly right
While I'm not surprised, it's all about Revenue collection, regardless of which party is in power.
No it's about taking the car off you. They state they are out to curtail private cars.
@@nuttall47 it's both.
@@nuttall47 your UA-cam username is appropriate.
@@nuttall47 No it's not. Silly comment award. Why do people make such ridiculous comments? Is it a mental health problem?
@@FFVoyager The daft really come out on UA-cam don't they?
Why bother working hard to have nice things when the government keeps kicking you down
True, it's pointless, especially with current government. It's seems more sense to go on benefits
It was never about CO or emissions, it's all about money. What's the incentive to buy electric, when the goal posts are moved time and time again.
You don't need GOV incentives to buy an EV. They're just better vehicles for most. Not for all, but the majority.
Well depending on your yearly mileage, you could save £thousands per year by no longer buying petrol. Charging at home brings the biggest savings...
its all about control by them of us
@@GoGreenAutosI would like to agree but every EV that’s close to being affordable is butt ugly imo and not unlike an Amazon box on wheels. All the good looking ones cost the same as a small house. If you are spending good money on transport you at least need to like what you are driving imo…..
@@GoGreenAutos Both you and me are convinced and are on the same page. But it's the general pubic and the sceptics that need some sort of reason to at least try an electric car. It was only through the government rebate scheme in 2015 that I purchased a Nissan leaf, and have been pro EV since then.
PPM is crap as well, who gave the MPs authority to treat us like slaves to thier command? Everyday people are suffering in England, politics is out of control"!
we did by doing nothing to stop them where a bunch of soft twats in the UK all we do is moan about it 🤷🏻♂️
don't worry...it's what the good people of britain voted for.....and now their new government is "delivering" their promised goods.....
The magna carter.
The extra money will then be sent to ukraine and Israel
@@DemiGod.. Charity starts at home, but never in England according to the politicians"!
The idea was to get ALL cars off the roads all along. How else are they going to trap you in your 15min ghettos...
The government cannot afford not to have cars on the roads. They would lose the £35 billion per year in taxes they collect from the motorist. And this 15 minute cities thing is just utter nonsense. The nation's economy couldn't function if people were restricted to within 15 minutes of where they lived. Quit reading garbage.
"Plan proceeding smoothly"
It wont bother rich MPs like Borris Johnson who has a garage full of exotic cars. He will have the roads to himself.
"15 minute ghettos" 😂 what an ignorant comment.
@@ziggarillo Oh the irony...Maybe you need to wake up and smell the coffee...
Thanks Labour voters. You played a blinder.
These new rates were put up for 2025 by the conservative government before the election
This was announced a year ago 😂
This is a Conservative policy not Labour
Yeah the the Daily Heil said it was Labour, so they don't understand.
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 Either way they re reaping havoc and bloody Labour voters let them in. More misery, huge rises for civil servants. £80K for a guy that drives a bloody train. In the meantime our soldiers in the military are on less that a third of that.
OMG, And govt wonder why people keeping their old cars
cos they are the real greenies innit
Fuck buying any new car, u only get hammered with Vat as 1st buyer anyway, used car prices will gradually creep up, people don't earn enough in the UK to throw 40K at a feckin giant Scalextric, that's why 90% of em are on rental, personally I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole, all ticking fire bombs.
@@brianlopez8855more green than an EV car 100% especially a 2014-2020 petrol or diesel
Must be why we were bribed to scrap them back around 2009.
This is gr8 news, the extra money will pay towards repairing the pot holes, the again Oh No It Won't, none of the Road Tax gets spent on the road. Rip Off Britain.....
Because it’s not road tax
Means we can pay for more Muslims to threaten the UK by being paid to live here.
You won't be worried about pot holes, because you won't have a car.
WIll be sent to Ukraine and Israel and pay for hotels for the dingy people..
Council tax pay for road more then VED
They just whant cars off the road, now you will see huge unemployment!
don't worry, a government drone will deliver your rations. "Remain indoors and await further instructions; for your safety and convenience".
@@brianlopez8855 You've overdone the alcohol this Christmas, I see.
@@ianhamilton3113 If you think that, you are not paying attention.
@@UtubeRfarlefty Got any proof? Where are the facts?
@@ianhamilton3113stupid boy. God luck with your beliefs. You’re going to need it
Pay per mile should Never be the option
Tend to agree, next step would be gov trackers on all cars.
Exactly ! Freedoms to move gone! 🤬
Just add the tax to the fuel. No need for trackers
But we already have pay per mile in the form of fuel duty (and VAT on the fuel as well). But in an electric future, we need an alternative. We certainly don't want duty increased on electricity that fuels our homes, businesses, hospitals, etc etc.
Pay per mile is the fairest way. The alternative is to just make VED a lot more expensive. But that cripples those that need a car but don't use it much, especially in rural communities where there's no public transport.
@GoGreenAutos don't get me wrong. I am against any tax payer increase in the cost of living
Remember the days when governments were talking about EVs getting free parking, free charging, use of bus lanes and all sorts of bribery? I'm sticking to my old diesel for now.
That would be fun getting my bicycle flatened in the buslane by an EV. The thing is,cars are supposed to use the buslane outside buslane hours, but they don't use it, efectively driving in lane 2
Rip off Britain bites again.....!
I'm 50 years old & very quickly starting to hate this country.
Keep it as long as you can !!
Free parking is still on-going for EVs in some parts of the country. 👌🏻
The whole thing is just a massive scam. New EV owners have been had.
Yes it is, exactly what happened a few years back enticing people to buy diesel cars now if you own a diesel vehicle you are frowned upon and detrimental to the environment.
@@natalie-nj7xe still have my 2012 BMW Diesel. 208,000 miles later still running well.
Yes I’m taxing my EV in March, luckily tax avoidance is not a crime whereas tax evasion is. This is not morally wrong it’s just thinking outside of the box.
On pay per mile be careful what you wish for as they are likely to make it eye watering expensive for everyone. To meet their net zero targets they don’t want cars on the roads. To achieve this they are/will introduce higher taxes, low emissions zones, ULEZ, low traffic and congestion zones, 15 minute cities, increased parking fees, toll roads etc, etc.
Yes, you're probably right.
And they will jack up the train and bus fares.
They, them, us. Be careful with these words. The government is democratically elected by us, for us as a nation. What is decided by the elected government is on our behalf.
Good look with selling it for any kind of value when you want rid of it. I suppose you believe the global warming scam as well!
@ only 20% of voters voted for this government, “they” lied to get into power. Mass immigration and pay per mile are the brainchild of .. Can you guess who?
So we all look for an EV at £39,999 , Then the goal posts will just get moved to £35,000 a year or two down the road .
Why would you want to spend £39k? Britain's 3rd cheapest new car is an EV. It costs £15k. Or you could go for the Focus sized MG4 hatchback, at £27k new.... A new Focus starts at £28k. Why do you feel you *have* to buy new? I saw someone get a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, for £4400 not long ago....
@@Brian-om2hhEvery EV car that’s close to being affordable is butt ugly and not unlike an Amazon box on wheels. All the good looking ones cost the same as a small house. If you are spending good money on transport you at least need to like what you are driving imo…..
Spend 3k and get a diesel. @@Brian-om2hh
Try 50
What the hell are you talking about "PAY PER MILE"???
NO, WE SHOULD NOT PAY ANYTHING PER MILE! We already pay road tax and taxes in fuel prices.
Stop making it sound like it's a good idea.
Well you're already paying per mile as that is what fuel duty and the VAT on top is effectively doing.
But in an electric future, we need an alternative method as we wouldn't want to increase duty on electricity that fuels our houses, businesses, schools, hospitals etc.
@@GoGreenAutos So you think, giving them even more power over how much you drive each year, is the solution?
I respectfuly dissagree.
Practically no incentive to own an electric car
Apart from lower running costs, smooth drive, virtually no servicing and cleaner air
limitation: range anxiety and the myriad of ways to charge them 😂
@@thelifeofbatteries2603
You’re only telling half the story.
It’s lower running costs if you can charge at home, but if I have to use public charging I take my wife’s petrol car as it’s cheaper.
Definitely cleaner I’ll give you that.
Smoother ? Well maybe, but spoilt by road/tyre noise which I don’t hear in an ICE car.
Cheaper servicing ? Nope, my EV gets main dealer servicing and it’s 90% the price of an equivalent ice car.
I’m not buying your story, sorry
I don’t know why electric cars should be any different, using the same roads and heavier kerbside weight potentially means more damage to tarmac…
A BMW 3 series diesel weighs more than a Tesla Model 3 SR.... Plenty of loaded vans and trucks have caused road wear over the decades.
@@Brian-om2hh Charge by weight would be sensible.
Utter codswallop, please stop peddling that old chestnut. That's The Mirror's misinformation at its best. It is absolutely not a given that EV's are heavier than their ICE equiv. And there are plenty of beefy ICE vehicles. However, EV's are vehicles that use the roads and should pay tax like any other.
I have an EV and I agree with you 100%
Charge VED according to vehicle weight. Fair as heavy vehicle ( EV , petrol , diesel ) damage the roads more.
This government is about punishment, so it makes sense that they're ramping up EVs
They only have 4 years to shaft us. No doubt they will go full shaft mode for those next 4 years, be voted out never ever to return. Labour and the Tories have forgotten who puts them in power. Road tax is out of control, but it’s any easy money grab. Labour are a disaster, they are a fiscally astute as a pork scratching.
The increases were announced by Jeremy Hunt back in November 2022, so not the current goverment
@@johngoode2374 Lab and Tory both bat for the same side - and it ain't the side of the people they are supposed to represent.
So in a nut shell they trying to price everyone off the road what's new😮🛻🚙🚘🚚🚛🏎🏍🛵🚜🏍🚖🚐🚎🚍🚌🤑
They can't afford to lose the £35 billion a year in taxes they collect from the motorist.
That fulfils their zero emissions goals
If everyone in the UK stop waking for one day then the government will lose but it will never happen because the ones brave British people have all gone
Lol the UK gov never ceases to amaze. Everything they do is just wrong.
The UK has the highest cost of electricity at the moment, filling up an average tank of a petrol car that does same mileage as an electric car is roughly 2x of charging an electric car if you charge at home.
Electric cars are in higher insurance group and their insurance premium is around 30% to 100% higher than similar value petrol cars.
Electric cars depreciate much faster in value after driving for 1-2 years in comparison to petrol cars as well.
Yet, the UK gov is introducing some weird ass taxes while complaining that the manufacturers are not meeting Ev sales targets.
The solution is glaringly simple. Get an EV. I charge at home for an 8th of the cost of using petrol. It costs me £4 to £5 per week to drive around 200 miles.
It will increase when the car electric gets taxed. Oh the joys of following some stupid ideology.
@@Brian-om2hh kwh is around 25p in the UK for home charging.
£5/0.25p = 20kwh
Average driving with some heating gives 3.5miles per kwh. So 20x3.5 = 70 miles range for £5
If you drive super efficiently, almost no heating, new car, towing less weight, no harsh acceleration etc. You will get 6-7 miles per kwh. Lets say 6 miles.
20x6 = 120 miles range for £5.
To achieve 200 miles per £5 spent, you either receive 33kwh of electricity for the £5 which makes your kwh rate 15p (not seen that low rates in the UK) or you drive very efficiently at 10 miles per kwh.
As far as I know, no Ev can do that except some ev motorcycles. At best you will get 8 miles per kwh but thats like perfect conditions driving. IE: No wind, no need of heating, carrying nobody in the car except you, no extra weight, tyres inflated perfectly, no traffic and no harsh acceleration or slowing down etc.
@@Brian-om2hh And you think it will remain like that, bless. They have already started winding up the costs for EVs. Also, I don't personally want to be driving around in a potential inferno.
@@iaprm "kwh is around 25p in the UK for home charging." Wrong! I'm paying 7p per kWh. Year in, year out. Annually averaging over 4 miles per kW using heating/cooling when needed and driving quicker than in my old petrol and diesel vehicles. 200 miles costs me around £3.50, a bit less in the spring, summer, autumn, more in the winter.
yeah that’s going to increase EV uptake in the UK 👍😀
Exactly that - not just the stupidly implemented and misnamed 'expensive car supplement' (aka the luxury car tax) but I think the introduction of VED for cars previously rated as £0 will tend to depress the take up of used EVs and depress the car market generally.
Most EVs never make 50 thousand for second hand markets and no one to repair...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Here in NZ I've just paid $400 [200 Pounds] to buy 5,000 kilometres [3,000 miles] road user charge.[the same as diesel vehicles].Used to be nothing until the beginning of this year.EV sales have tanked accordingly.They also dropped the govt. cashback [up to $8,000].Now they'r going to double the accident liability component of the annual road tax bill for EVs.They also reduced funds for more EV charging stations which was an election "promise". Fossil fuel companies have the upper hand with this right wing coalition it seems.
And rightly so.
well..."Somebody" must have elected/voted for that government...or...??
EV's were a con, now you getting milked.
It's called having a choice. Something we used to have when we lived in a real democracy. But now thats just an illusion.
EVs are a fraud and the fanboys who promote them are deluded chumps.
Be honest. We all knew, sooner or later it was going to be like this!!!!! 😞
How does imposing a massive tax on new EVs encourage people to buy them? I currently have a diesel Ford Focus which will be 10 years old next year. I had been intending to go electric next year but the punitive tax is persuading me to hang on to the diesel instead.
Because the tax on new petrol and diesel cars has gone up significantly more.
The VED on electric cars will be set at a level which incentivises EV ownership, meaning it will cost more to tax an ICE car. It appears it may be set at around the £180 per year mark for EV's. However, if you can charge at home, then an off-peak EV tariff will allow you to fully charge a typical EV for around £4 to £5, which could provide you with around 200 miles of driving, so the savings will soon mount up.... Octopus Energy have a tariff which can occasionally give you free charging, depending on the demand on the grid.
look after your diesel car 10 years is nothing. We will be like Cuba soon.
@@Brian-om2hhThat’s the problem in many areas, if you can’t charge at home and can’t get an EV you are penalised for where you live in the form of higher taxes for your ICE. This government virtue signalling is costing the average Joe, it’s unfair and not right on so many levels…
EV's have been a flop, so they dont care anymore, just want your money now
Roadworks take years in the U.K. must be costing millions in wasted money in China a 2year U.K. equivalent job would take a week that’s why road tax is so expensive we need a “department of government expenditure” same as the US is going to install , governments waste soooo much money it’s unbelievable
Are you ready to work 996 working hours as in china?
@ 8 hour shifts around the clock yes when can I start
That's because the dodgy and slow private companies that are used by the highways agency are government donors. Had a German in the van the other day driving down the M6 and he couldn't believe that it was still down to two lanes after two months since the last time he was here and didn't look like anything had been done. He pointed out that in Germany the company doing the work would be fined for the delay and probably never pick up another government contract.
Road Tax was abolished in 1937. You now pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED). The funds collected from VED are not ringfenced for roads, but just go into the general taxation pot.
And Fuel tax the same.
I thought I was the only one.
Road tax
Is that the general taxation Pot that they all dip into and call it Expenses 🤣🤣
@@genx156 or gets given to NGOs in vastly huge amounts with N£TZ£R0 B0LL0X excuses attached.
ROFL £40,000 is not a cheap car on my planet where I suspect most people live
most expensive car I ever bought was 6500 and I had to take a bank loan
😂 They conned people into buying EV’s, now they are hitting them hard. Same happened with Gordon Brown and diesel vehicles.
I've saved around £7k by no longer buying petrol in the 3 years I've had my EV. You're the one being conned each time you fill up with petrol, You pay one of the World's highest rates of fuel duty, using earnings you *already* got taxed on. I call that a double whammy con.... I pat 5% VAT on the electricity I use to charge my car.
But they're not hitting them hard compared to petrol & diesel vehicles which are being hit harder.
@ Good for you. How much is the depreciation on your car? From my research it’s astronomical. Tyres and brakes wear out quicker. Replacing the batteries is mega bucks. The initial cost of buying is much higher than a petrol car, and you don’t have to keep charging it. I’ll stick to my petrol car that gives 50 mpg.
@@stuarthall2523 An EV depreciates roughly the same as an ICE car. That's why you shouldn't buy new.
@@stuarthall2523you know nothing. One example of your ignorance is that EVs have regenerative braking and very rarely use the actual brakes so pads can last over 200,000 miles also batteries have been proved to outlive the car
I hate this government.
In my circumstance, my 2019 ev will cost £195, but my wifes old petrol Fiesta will go from £0 to £10. I don't understand the logic.
You're right, there's no logic to this. It's an old system based on CO2 which hasn't been updated properly.
The logic is simple, they NEED money!
People driving an EV can afford to pay that extra tax.
Thank the tories, they are the ones who removed the discount on evs.
One of the reasons I will never get a newer car is the new VED tax bands. I'll stick to £35 a year on my Toyota Auris. I get two full tanks of premium petrol in tax savings compared to you and your £195 a year EV tax.
@@GoGreenAutosEV aren't as green as you think they are 😂😂
And the biggest shocker is non of it goes on potholes and roads.
No incentive at all to buy an EV now. Depreciation of EVs going to get even worse!
Brilliant news everyone who uses the roads should pay...... It used to Road fund licence for the roads untill all governments decided to tax it on emissions as they can raise more money that way under the green net zero madness.
@@datrenarakiel8202 and you are another know-nothing lunatic.
There’s absolutely no way I’m buying a car that results in a £600 a year car tax. Also disagree with the charge per mile model as it’s an additional tax on individuals who have no option but to drive for work, career needs etc.
The change in tax position is simply going to result in people buying older more polluting cars and that will significantly impact on the trade and used prices.
It's not '£600 a year' but an additional £410 a year - £2010 over the 5 years.
@ isn’t the £410 charged in addition to the standard £190 tax?
@BwlGog it is. But everyone pays the £190 - so the luxury car tax is £410.
@ agreed, but my point was that I’m not paying £600 on car tax. So whatever way you look at it the end result is still £600
@BwlGog over the 5 years you still pay £950. 🤷🏻♂️
For electric cars, your insurance ain't getting any cheaper either
Not just car insurance some buildings insurance will not allow ev parking in or near the building
Which electric cars have you tried to insure? Insurance costs for most cars aren't getting any cheaper. It isn't just an electric car issue. Even home insurance costs are rising.
@@datrenarakiel8202 Oh dear, another one. Did you even realise that around 300 petrol and diesel cars catch fire *each day* in Britain? Yet only around 250 electric cars have caught fire in Britain in the 12 years or so since they've been on the market. Which is the higher risk? 300 per day, or around 250 in 12 years? You've read all the EV scare stories and you've believed them.
There is a very good reason for that, nobody wants to repair them or buy the salvage. Look how cheap almost new EV’s are sold by salvage companies.
Mine came down significantly this year so that suggests that you're wrong. 😅
"Cost of living crisis"...a phrase that clearly hasn't resonated with these buffoons in govt! This could decimate an already clobbered auto industry. Almost as if this 'money grab' has no limits
I certainly am going to re tax in March, thanks for the tip ❤
Never, ever, suggest something like in 2:00 because politicians will not use a pay-per-mile system instead but add it on top. How I know this ? I live in Norway. Any car site should NEVER suggest any tax at all, just be against the unfair and any tax that is not used for road infrastructure.
It's alright. No MPs are watching my little channel.
Norway is so rich in oil, petrol and diesel should be so cheap, GB never really benefited from North sea oil and gas
@@Shandybrother Oil industry in Norway have a deal with gov. of free electricity against 50% base tax on all oil products. Then comes the gas tax and diesel tax, + VAT on the whole thing. And since oil is sold in USD and most is invested it is Blackrock and Vanguard that get rich, not so much Norway. But everything gets expensive due to high taxes on everythiing
My old diesel car only costs £30 per year to tax because it too was the "environmentally friendly" option once..
Showing a picture of Rachael Reeves and Starmer when talking about the introduction of VED for EVs from 2025 is disingenuous and deliberately misleading, don’t you think? Announced by the Tory Government in the 2022 Autumn Budget, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt stated: “To make our motoring tax system fairer I've decided that electric vehicles will no longer be exempt from Vehicle Excise Duty (VED).”
But they are in charge now. They could change it if they wanted to. So its on Labour.
@ I think Labour have enough to do to repair the wrecking ball results of the previous government. I’m sure they’ll get round to it - eventually - maybe in 14 years time you might see something that resembles a working country again.
@@wizzyno1566 changing previous chancellors Budgets before they are implemented is generally not done. (Exception made for Truss's recent chaos!)
@@iscadean6038If this lot are in power for 14 years there won’t be a country
Tabour/ Lory ? same A3sehole.
Electric will never be cheaper in the long run, when the fuel tax revenue lost has to be replaced somehow. Remember when we were all encouraged to go diesel?!
VED is about paying to maintain roads. So any tax break like has been happening with EVs is unjustifiable. Especially given the fact they are much more expensive than petrol/diesel counterparts so only the wealthy can afford them. They are heavier and do more damage to roads, so VED should be higher if anything.
I will absolutely be taxing my ev’s in March 2025. This whole taxation system is wrong. I had an old Fabia -£20/pa and it’ll stay that until it’s wheels fall off. How is it fair to change the original band a car was bought under? More cars will be sorn’d and only taxed when really needed…so Reeves will end up costing the DVLA money, not grabbing it gleefully.
Bicycles are next, it will be cheaper just to buy a horse and cart😏 So pleased I immigrated to Spain.
Horse tax mate. Then you will need an inspection fee for the cart.
Oxford Dictionary: Politcian. One who cannot stop lying. One who will not answer. One that will break laws that the public cannot.
Nice one...
Teaching your car or van next match before the tax rises is morally right if it's not illegal! It's certainly more morally right than MP'S DRAWING £3600 A YEAR FOR A SECOND PROPERTY AFTER TALKING THE PENSIONERS WINTER FUEL PAYMENT AWAY!
I wouldn't have an Electric car anywhere near me
Road tax/council tax/VAT/Tv licence/income tax/breathing tax to come. Tax tax tax tax. What kind of economy is this?? Everything is based on tax!! Wtf.
they dont care!! revolution is coming
Trust me EVs cost more than you expected and can't rely on them! 🤔
The reason why not many EVs in the UK are not below £40,000 is because a £40,000 EV in the UK contains £10,000 of cumulative British government taxes. In other words it should be a £30,000 car. Why an ATTO 3 is £12,000 to £13,000 more expensive in the UK than Australia and £22,000 more expensive than in China.
Those taxes are on ICE cars too
The figure will be on the list price , not what you paid, so all they have to do is increase the tax to catch those that went for a 39999 car.
@@thelifeofbatteries2603 EVs need to be exempt to encourage transition. They did it in Norway and now 90%plus of all car sales in Norway are electric.
No matter what you drive, they are gonna sting us.
By increasing the VED as of 1st April '25 , the current Government is adding another penalty on those that buying shopping online or from a supermarket, as they will have to pay the larger taxes and these will be passed on to us the consumers.
Typical Labour Government, screw the little man by any means possible.
Simple solution, just buy a 40 year old car. No road tax, no mot, ulez exempt and I pay just £55 per year for comprehensive insurance. Cheap to maintain, nobody wants to steal it and it will increase in value, providing you keep it roadworthy. Why buy an electric vehicle which will probably end up on the scrap heap in 10 years time! Comments please!
Sound comment....
To stick it to the man, could you Sorn your vehicle for one day on the 1st of March, then Tax it again the following day for 12 months at your usual cheaper rate, to avoid being ripped off for the first year?
You know the billions raised by the price hike has nothing to do with the environment and the money's never spent on the roads!
You don't need to SORN it first. You can just retax it in March as I showed in the video. I did this in March 2024 on all our EVs, just in case the online system didn't allow it in March 24.
If he hadn't got stopped driving earlier this year, my elderly father's wreck of a Ford Focus turbo diesel would shortly be attracting less road tax than my Fiat 500e.
Looks like all the critics who warned us about the UK government doing a dirty on BEV drivers were right.
This is bad for car manufacturers for all types of cars. They need to scrap this. This is extortionate.
i was about to buy ev and just owning cost about £2000 per yr by way of insurance and taxes!!
Top tip about current EV being able to renew for another 12m in March! Thanks. Mines due in September so that will give me a further 6m FOC. To not increase the expensive car threshold, in line with inflation is verging on criminal. They say they want everyone to change to EVs, then they slap an outrageous surcharge on most new EVs. Can’t they see this will slow down the EV uptake considerably. Utter Morons.
I don’t understand how a government can be so dumb
@@AndyC2_ these ppl are evil and if u dont get it then they will beat u with antisemitism,islamophobia and grooming gang bullshit
I’m really surprised that EV manufacturers haven’t produced something like a really basic model without all the bells and whistles, but bigger batteries for increased mileage.
All the stuff to reduce emissions costs loads and is mandatory
They couldn't build a properly cheap car if they wanted too
It’s all part of the plan to get private cars off the road. Eventually it’ll be far too expensive to run it.
Agree with your comment on the £40k threshold. Do we already "sort of" pay per mile with the VAT on charging?
But no where near the same rate as fuel duty and VAT on petrol & diesel. Most EV drivers only pay 5% VAT on their fuel.
Thanks for this, I was going to get my first EV this year (a Fiat 500e around ‘71 plate), I shall bring it forward now to March to get the zero tax benefit for a year! Subscribed!
Selling the EV concept is now as big a folly as the EV proposal. EV's may work for some local drivers but they are not the answer. The answer is zero point free energy but we can't have it as the world is an oil based economy.
But of course one day oil will run dry. As I'm sure you know, oil is a finite resource, and it will run out one day.
Local drivers eh. Well my many long EU road trips says otherwise 😂
@@Brian-om2hh 1950 we have only 10 years of oil left,
1960 we have only 10 years of oil left,
1970 we have only 10 years of oil left,
1980 we have only 10 years of oil left,
1990 we have only 10 years of oil left,
2000 we have only 10 years of oil left,
2010 we have only 10 years of oil left,
2020 we have only 10 years of oil left.
2024 Oil reserves still in extreme abundance.
Oil is the blood of the Earth - it is a self replicating eternal resource and not a fossil fuel.
@@Brian-om2hh And as the oil monopoly fades, a new one will emerge with the pricing of electricity which will be controlled and supplied at the rate that the energy producing companies (and their shareholders) will decide. Using a single source of energy for virtually everything is not a good idea.
Look how much tax revenue comes from petrol and diesel. If we shift to EV's, the revenue drops and the government raises it elsewhere. Guess who pays?
I know. That's why we need another form of pay per mile to replace the current pay per mile system used in the past in the form of fuel duty and VAT on top.
The same people?
To be fair the weight from ev car fuck up the roads
A 44 tonne HGV doesn’t?
My EV weighs less than a tonne.
I'm no EV fan but many idiotwagon diesel and hybrid SUVs out there weigh far more than smaller EVs. Charging by weight would be a good way forward to replace the whole shebang. Co2 is pretty discredited as a measure - and of course impossible to calculate for an EV. If it was made in China it was probably made from coal-fired power (everything from the steel to chemical processing for the batteries, to assembly).
And the toxic waste from tyre wear pollutes the environment.
@@rboot1621 Are you trying to make a point? Or just confirming that both ICE and EVs produce the same amount of pollution from tyres?
I haven't been able to afford a car for over a decade and sold my beloved 9 year-old Micra in 2012. I'm skint and can't afford public transport, so have been reduced to either walking or riding a poxy bicycle (£130 from Halfords over 15 years ago) ever since. I'm in the north of England, slap-bang in the middle of bicycle-hatingJeremy Clarkson country; riding a bike is a cold, wet, dangerous and utterly miserable pursuit.
Having said that, it's all I can afford and if any bright spark tries taxing me off the road, I'll be starting a 1-woman revolution. The government will get a right good slapping.
(UA-cam will remove my Comment if I say what I really want to in Monty Python terms. Its prissy auto-censorship algorithms don't 'get' British humour.)
And they say we aren’t being forced into going ev, well with the expensive car tax for ice cars set to be ridiculously high, I’d disagree.
The issue with this is that they are taxing high emission vehicles where there often isn't an EV equivalent available yet.
So if you want a sports cabrio, your only option is a MG Cyberster. Or if you want a tow vehicle, it's only the Maxus eTerron9 or a Munro 4x4.
They, them, us. Be careful with these words. The government is democratically elected by us, for us as a nation. What is decided by the elected government is on our behalf.
@@iscadean6038 indeed. If people were more careful when electing their local representatives we could have a more representative democracy.
@@GoGreenAutos I’ve towed our caravan with our Model Y
I feel it was obvious EVs would eventually be subject to a VEL cost but I don't consider it morally wrong to pre tax an EV as the hike in cost is ridiculously high when you consider the current rates for ICE vehicles.
The roads are becoming progressively worse & we are expected to pay more tax? Where exactly is this money being spent? Judging by my experience it’s not on the roads. This is an insult!
Hotels?
money goes into private pockets!! no wonder govts are such attractive business
What a terrible system. High mileage hybrid pay less than low mileage small evs
How are you going to manage the pay as you drive?
Just one idea...Fixed price for first 3 years, then variable based on MoT records as mileage is captured then. No equipment, cameras, new databases needed.
So much for incentives for buying EV's. This Labour government are a bunch of brain dead clowns !
The idiots that bought them deserve all they get for being credulous chumps.
What a great informative video. I’ve already retaxed both our EVs in March 24 to be prepared and gain another free year. We have to spread this news rapidly
Pay per mile would mean i would have to give up my job! I do 52 miles per day just commuting. I bought an efficient EV (Ioniq 38kwh) so i could keep thar job! Hopefully in 4 years time the next government will introduce a fair system for all fuel types because i can't see Labour getting back in!
For goodness sake, we already pay per mile with fuel taxes.
@Ukmongoose3 electricity is only 5% vat though...
EV excise tax was announced by the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, in the Autumn Statement delivered to Parliament on November 17, 2022. It's wrong to show an image of the Labour government.
Amazing video Matt, didn’t realise all of this
Thank you
Glad to help
This government is morally wrong not for the workers anymore
they are for the spongers
It was the last Conservative government that made these tax changes to electric cars, blame them.
I have an EV Jaguar i pace 2020 plate.Registered July 2020
Can i tax it in March 2020 ? to get £0 car tax for the year.
On the new tax system do you pay tax from April to April or from when your car was registered.
I bought the car for over £20,000 but the list price was £65,000
I assume i will only have to pay £195 for as long as i keep the car.
All the pre April 2025 new cars will sell for a premium as you will get taxed an extra £2,050 over the first 6 years on cars registered from April 2025..
Yes, re-tax it in March to get another year at no cost, as I showed at the end of the video. Then the following year it will be £195 plus the RPI increase.
Pay per mile is unfair as it discriminates against lower earners living in the countryside as opposed to wealthier city slickers and also those who can't afford to live near where they work and hence travel more, it's a stupid idea and if introduced open to exploitation by government, being able to travel anywhere is a right, £195.00, even a bit more say £250.00 is good value for a years access to the UK's road network for all cars including EVs.
This governments lack of support for EVs with the expensive car tax simply discourages many families from spending that extra, more than they really can budget for already, for a clean green alternative, makes no sense on any level unless you think like "Rachel from Complaints".
Conflation.
To play evil's advocate, you must understand that the "right" of being able to travel anywhere doesn't mean the government are forced enable your preferred method of travel, whether it be driving, flying, or Elon's rocket ship.
You have legs, a train/bus ticket, or a push bike, so feel to use those methods to travel the world.
It's a fair enough system if it's priced accordingly, but whether it will be remains to be seen.....
Pay per mile already exists in fuel duty at 52.95 pence per liter plus 20% VAT. The more fuel you use the more tax you pay. Meanwhile EV drivers can charge with no duties on electricity and at 5% VAT.
Want to pay less tax? Drive an EV.
Definitely be taxing my 2018 Zoe early in March to get another 12 months free, crazy that 1 year difference in registration date on identical model is such a huge extra cost.
Paying based on mile and weight is the only thing that makes sense if the tax is truly to help pay for road maintenance. The fact that it isn't only shows that's not the true intention. Same thing here in US, really disappointing.
Correct.
Paying by weight has a growing case behind it
About time we all use the same roads ,so we all pay 😊
I agree.
Mots should be done on millage, you can have a car do 20k miles and a car that does 3k miles but they both have to have mot every year
If the Labour Government want to increase the take up of EVs this is not the way to go about it.
And why do the people promoting EV's seem to think by owning one the climate will change. Especially here in the UK thats adds just 1% to emissions. All we will achieve is being bankrupt and getting a bit closer to a politicians target of net zero. Utter madness.
Another benefit for EV’s wiped out by this government.
Won’t be long before there are no advantages in owning one.
The air that we all breathe?
Apart from the lovely smooth drive and ridiculous low running costs
@ is that it ? 😂😂😂😂
Paying 2p per mile on octopus Go vs 10p per mile for my old diesel.
@@GoGreenAutos The air that we all breathe - how do you charge your EV with fresh air or electricity.
A government obsessed by tax, tax this, tax that, think it’s time to buy a horse👌. Oh and thank you for your voluntary contribution.
Road tax was abolished in 1937.
Government being grabbing little ....s, and can't even be bothered to fix the broken road network.
I was told by my former MP that the expensive car supplement is fair to ensure “those who can afford to pay, pay”. This is the craftiest British tax ever because very few people who drive the kinds of cars this affects are willing to criticise it because doing so makes them look hard up. The Gov really tapped into that ‘keeping up with the jones’ vulnerability.
Same argument for VAT on private school fees, which will just end up pushing kids into state schools which can't cope already and have no spaces. The end result is any extra tax is swallowed up by funding extra state school places and lowering the quality of state education as the classes are crowded.
@@GoGreenAutos 100%. Though that is just a political push against what 2TK and his cronies see as privilege. Given that education is precisely the core 'charitable purpose', this vicious push against private schools is nothing short of spite. I would say that 2TK is a socialist evil genius but instead I think he's just an easily led prat.
And it’s ridiculous punitive policies like this that are killing the new car industry, adversely affecting working class people (the majority of which buy cars second hand and can’t afford to buy an electric car that will depreciate faster than a car falling from a plane) and don’t have home charging available to them that the government is determined to screw over the most in some desperate and deluded ploy to reach net zero, even though we’ve largely exported our manufacturing and industry overseas, so that we can have a clean conscience about the environment and feel morally righteous and superior about the fact, even though the UK contributes 2% to global emissions.
Your video implies that it is the current government that introduced these changes.
This is completely untrue.
The 2023 Autumn Statement by the then Conservative government set the new rates which applied to ICE vehicles from April 2024 and EV's from 2025.
Please don't mislead.
Your talking 💩
I disagree. The new Government wanted to make new EVs more attractive, so changed the rates for all new vehicles regardless of powertrain. They could have made any changes they wanted, but instead kept the luxury tax threshold at £40K.
As an EV driver, I agree that I should pay road tax. The video was not a swipe at Labour, it was just stating facts and figures. So I disagree there was any misleading there.
@@jamesball8966 I see an intellectual has entered the conversation.
The new government has a lot more stuff still to deal with than this system that the Tories have had in place for years, it costs a huge amount of money to have any new system of tax tested and planned out, it's not something that can be done with a snap of the fingers, essentially EV's need to start paying tax we all know it, this system is what we've got and blaming labour shows real shortsightedness.
People complaining about some older ice vehicles being cheaper than EV's need to understand they can only go so far back when retroactively changing tax bands it happened when the old old tax system was replaced 20 years ago when it was based on engine size.
I do believe there should have been a higher threshold for expensive EV's because they actually cost more upfront and we pay less in filling up so that should have been taken into account and maybe been 45 or 50k for EV's
@@GoGreenAutos The rates are those which carried over. Given just how much the government has to do at the moment to sort 14 years of economic illiteracy and ideological stupidity there is only so much that can be achieved in 6 months.
Where was all the protesting in April 2024 when these rates became law?
Let's start cycling before we get tax on that....
What is morally wrong is upgrading from a Euro5 diesel to a used EV and paying more VED from now on.
Good point.
Alternatively, it’s morally wrong not to adequately fund the NHS, education, defence, social security, justice and the rest. So taxes need to rise and the government needs to find funds.
@@spsmith45 trouble is, just as junk expands to fill all available space, so does government waste expand to fill all available income. I have precisely zero confidence any tangible benefit will ever come from these tax increases.
@@spsmith45 Taxes need to go down so we stop driving wealth out of the country and people start spending again.
@@gravemind6536 Try persuading an economist on that claim.
Yeah Starmer get these roads fixed with all the extra VED MONEY YOU HAVE MAGICALLY PULLED OUT OF THE POOR MOTORIST AGAIN I AM ASHAMED TO HAVE VOTED FOR YOU I VOTED LABOUR BUT STARMER YOU ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH A TYPICAL LABOUR GOVERNMENT YOU ARE A SHAMBLES
Whole thing is a con-job
So is filling up with petrol, when you have to pay one of the World's highest rates of fuel duty, using earnings you *already* got taxed on......
@Brian-om2hh 🫡