That moment when Michael Forcefully grabs Fredo's head and does the intense kiss is what in Italy is called The Kiss of Death. It means not only are all ties cut but death is just a matter of time. The one giving the kiss is the one who will make it happen.
Don Tommasino appears in part one as the crippled don who gives Michael protection when he was in Sicily. His being shot in the scene where they assassinate Don Chicci explains his disability
In 1977 they made The Godfather Saga as a miniseries. They edited parts 1 and 2 into chronological order. Its 7.5 hours long and includes deleted scenes. Its hard to find but there is a 57 minute video on UA-cam of the deleted scenes. Really worth watching. Great reaction!
That Fredo is the only one to support Michael’s decision to enlist in the Marines, directly following the scene depicting Fredo’s demise, breaks my heart. It breaks my heart.
He'd married Deanna, according to the book because she was a fading movie star and she had boosted his self esteem. I've always felt the more prudent gangsters lived modestly. If you befriend the right people and keep your head low, it gives law enforcement less of a reason to peek in the proverbial window imo. This movie takes place as Castro was coming into power and performing his coup in Havana. I believe wholeheartedly Micheal knew this was coming and so did Roth. That's why Roth was so intent on getting this deal done. It was an old world custom to use leeches in those situations to draw out the bad blood from the sick body. They show the occasion where the scar occured in a deleted scene you can see on UA-cam. Hyman Roth was played by Lee Strausberg, who was a very respected acting teacher and this was his only role ever in a movie. Just thought to hopefully answer a couple questions you had and remember when you go to watch 3, please watch the director's cut. The movie gets undeserved crap but this cut makes it more watchable. Not 5 star but it makes it better. Can't resist this last bit for those who know: Johnny Ola didn't have the makings of a varsity Sicilian messenger boy 😂
That's because he didn't want itt, he was too busy chasing skirt. Bonus: "You heard about the Chinese godfather? He made them an offer they couldn't understand"
I'm not so sure about that. We really have no indication that Ciccio had any direct connection to the mob in the US. In the 1920's/30's very few of the Sicilian oldtimers had muscle in the US, and even in Sicily their reach was principally regional (especially given the constant feuding and localism of the many famiglie). Moreover, do you really think there would be a worldwide hunt for a lone powerless10 year old boy?
Part 3 is quite a good movie. People tend to downplay how good it is because parts 1 and 2 are legendary. Overall, part 3 feels different because it came out in 1990, so the style had simply changed from the 70s. There's a cut called "Godfather Coda", which is Francis Ford Coppola's director's cut, which people generally recommend over the theatrical version. All in all, if this movie were standalone, or in any other series, it would be considered a very solid film. It just had impossible standards to live up to.
Henry....I just have to say that you look so adorable in your black and red suit. You seem like one of the nicest people on you Tube. Good luck to you.
Just a little FYI: Marlon Brando was slated to make a cameo appearance at the end of this film (the final flashback). The reason why it didn't happen is still being debated to this day. The Godfather Part 3 is alright but is missing one important element: Don Vito Corleone.
The great visual storytelling shows us that it was definitely personal for Michael. I think it was better that they didn't just straight up say that it was, at least in the movie.
Never read the book but figured out that "personal vs. business" a while back. The killing of Police Chief Mcclusky was personal because he broke Michael's jaw. The smarter move would've been to kill Sollozzo, disarm and instruct Mcclusky to finish his meal and walk out of the restaurant. (edit) Another great reaction.
The killing of McCluskey was risky, but ultimately the papers stories showed Corleone had a lot of dirt on cops, and if the Captain could be slimey so could others.
Franky 5 Angels' brother appeared to let Franky know that if he snitched, he would take of Franky himself. Note that the part was supposed to be for Clamenza but due to some disagreements, the actor walked away from the franchise and the part was given to Franky as the underboss under Clemenza who was said to have died.
I see. If Clemenza came back for this role, it would feel different. Because Clemenza & Frank's personalities are different. I'm not sure if they changed the script due to Frank taking up the role, but he played his role well 👍
@@henryellow if Clemenza had been the guy at the hearing (as in the books), a real Don from Sicily would have attended... who happens to be Clemenza's elder brother.
Frank Pentangelli's brother reminded him of the Sicilian code of honor called Omerta, the vow of silence. There is nothing more dishonourable than to break Omerta. Which is why just his face was enough.
Definitely find part 3, before copila redid it a couple years back and watch thay version. Great movies all around. Also check out the deleted scense, amazing stuff
Very good reaction!! I like watching you because you asked questions that I never asked myself. For instance, even though I've seen this movie countless times, I never asked myself why Don Fanucci never had "underlings". Thanks for opening my eyes. I am looking forward to you reacting to Part 3.
Thank you, Daniel 😊 I'm glad you liked my reaction to this. It's just something I wondered aloud, because I never saw any head of mafia going to do any "dirty job" themselves 😂
@@omarharo3132 I believe Hyman Roth didn't have any "underlings" (like in mafia) because he isn't running a gang, collecting money, needing protection, etc. Roth does have subordinates like Johnny Ola, of course. All the other Dons need the "muscle" to get the dirty deeds done. So it was quite strange for Don Fanucci to do things on his own, considering he was supposed to have a huge backing.
To be honest, I always took the 'it's just business' thing as their justification for their actions. It's a lie and they KNOW it's a lie, but they lie about a lot anyway. Vito Corleone says in the first movie "We are not murderers" haha, what? Of course they are. Murder forms a core part of what they do. But they deny it to put a reasonable face on their behavior. One thing to keep in mind. Italians immigrated to the US in large numbers and there was a great deal of prejudice against them in the US. So much so that special immigration laws were passed for the sole purpose of limiting Italian immigration. This is important to know, because it forms the reason for Vito Corleone to make the decisions he makes early on. His people need protection that they won't get from mainstream America because his people are a minority that a lot of the mainstream does not like. Think about the two storylines in this movie. We see why Vito was motivated to become powerful- to protect his family and people. We see in Michael's part that building the family's position on a criminal foundation corrupted them and led to the deterioration of the family. Vito himself lived long enough to see his eldest son killed while running a crime organization. Michael lived to see his family rotting from within. They were undone by their own flaws= a real tragedy in story terms.
Vito did what he had to do to provide a better life for his family. I believe part of his motivation is also to get revenge for his parents. Michael, on the other hand... Well, he faced the problems that most crime organizations would eventually encounter. Inner conflict, and how to "legalize" their businesses. Yes, their story is a tragedy, in its own way. Thanks for sharing 😊
I think Vito's justification, "We are not murderers", means they do not kill innocent people. When you think about it, the people they murdered are just as corrupt and vicious as they are.
Unspoken in the first GF, Tom betrayed the family when he agreed to try to get Sonny to make a deal with Solozo, the drug dealer. Michael knew this and did not trust Tom as Consigleiri.
Very true! The Godfather is the most subtextually layered film ever. I actually agree with Michael here. However, Tom does agree that they have to get Sollozzo and is the only one not laughing when he calls for their blood, so perhaps he's not being so disloyal.
49:55 I begin by confessing that I have not read the Puzo books and know next to nothing about Catholicism. That said, I've often wondered if Michael's marriage to Kay in the first movie and refusing to divorce her in the second had something to do with meeting requirements of being a godfather. I don't think, but certainly don't know for sure, that a single person would be excluded from becoming a godfather by the Catholic church, but perhaps this is an unstated requirement by either the church or by Sicilian society. In any case Michael's marriage to Kay always seemed to have more to do with status than love. Maybe another commenter can clear this up.
I remember during the senate hearing, Michael said, "Godfather is a term that was used by his friends -- one of affection, one of respect." If he wasn't lying to the Senate committee, then I believe it's a title which close friends use to refer to the Don. So it might not have anything to do with marriage. That being said, I'm not too sure if this is true or not. So if someone could clarify, that would be great 😊
I'm Roman Catholic and you are correct about the qualifications for being a godparent - a divorced person would be excluded. However, I think Michael refused to divorce Kay because she might re-marry (I doubt she was Catholic, but converted to marry him and would probably leave the Church once they got divorced) and he would not tolerate his children having a stepfather - possibly a stranger introduced to the family dynamic.
I've been waiting to see you react to this one since you reacted to the first one. This movie, imo, is actually better than the first one. it is also the only movie to win picture of the year after the original won. You can't say it is the only sequel to win, because, technically, 'The Return of the King' is a sequel, but 'Fellowship.....' didn't win. Anyway, this one of the greatest movies of all time, and I'm excited to see you react! Rarely, does anything get past you, and when the reactor is good at noticing the little things as well as the big, it makes it that much more interesting! Keep going, friend. GF 3 is okay, not great, but worth it to finish the trilogy.
Thank you, Gene 😊 Part 1 and Part 2 are both great movies 👍 I got confused about some things during the movie, so I had to do a bit of research afterwards. Of course, I'll watch Part 3 to finish this trilogy 😉
I just started reading the book, but before I really get into it, I have a theory about Fredo. I think Fredo suffered a bit of brain damage when he was a baby with pneumonia. Remember the scene where Vito anxiously watches his wife and the older woman treat crying Fredo by cupping? I don't see the significance of this scene except to allude that Fredo was very sick with pneumonia, and probably had a fever. Very high fevers can cause a bit of brain damage in a baby. I could be wrong, and maybe the book will support or debunk my theory, but that's what I'm thinking after watching this movie. Later, we see how Fredo seems unable to make connections or put two and two together. He is almost child like when he announces that he's going to Nevada to learn the casino business - he reminded me of a little boy excited to go on a trip. He is almost simple-minded. The more I think about Michael having Fredo killed, the more I feel that Michael should have had Fredo under "house arrest" and simply have him watched and kept as far from business as possible. I think that's the alternative. Fredo could have been happy just to be an uncle to his nieces and nephews and stay close to home.
I have similar thoughts too. Fredo even reveals his own "betrayal" without realizing it. Clearly, he is not suited for this business. That's why Vito never put him in charge. I believe the reason Michael had Fredo killed isn't just because of the betrayal. Michael would have let Fredo live, but Fredo said that he wanted something of his own. He had ambition. He wasn't willing to just sit back and be satisfied with what he had. (He said all this during his argument with Michael near the end). Michael knew that someone like that was dangerous. So Fredo's fate was sealed.
@@henryellow Yeah, I think you're right. Fredo was dumb yet smart enough to be a danger. His resentment towards Michael after he was "stepped over" sealed his fate.
"Merle" was played by early 60s heartthrob Troy Donohue, whose real name was Merle Johnson. He and Coppola went to military school together as kids
That moment when Michael Forcefully grabs Fredo's head and does the intense kiss is what in Italy is called The Kiss of Death. It means not only are all ties cut but death is just a matter of time. The one giving the kiss is the one who will make it happen.
I hope they used tic tacs
Don Tommasino appears in part one as the crippled don who gives Michael protection when he was in Sicily. His being shot in the scene where they assassinate Don Chicci explains his disability
In 1977 they made The Godfather Saga as a miniseries. They edited parts 1 and 2 into chronological order. Its 7.5 hours long and includes deleted scenes. Its hard to find but there is a 57 minute video on UA-cam of the deleted scenes. Really worth watching. Great reaction!
Yes I have seen the combined one as well and it is really good
That Fredo is the only one to support Michael’s decision to enlist in the Marines, directly following the scene depicting Fredo’s demise, breaks my heart. It breaks my heart.
Things change... Nothing ever stays the same...
He'd married Deanna, according to the book because she was a fading movie star and she had boosted his self esteem.
I've always felt the more prudent gangsters lived modestly. If you befriend the right people and keep your head low, it gives law enforcement less of a reason to peek in the proverbial window imo.
This movie takes place as Castro was coming into power and performing his coup in Havana. I believe wholeheartedly Micheal knew this was coming and so did Roth. That's why Roth was so intent on getting this deal done.
It was an old world custom to use leeches in those situations to draw out the bad blood from the sick body.
They show the occasion where the scar occured in a deleted scene you can see on UA-cam.
Hyman Roth was played by Lee Strausberg, who was a very respected acting teacher and this was his only role ever in a movie.
Just thought to hopefully answer a couple questions you had and remember when you go to watch 3, please watch the director's cut. The movie gets undeserved crap but this cut makes it more watchable. Not 5 star but it makes it better.
Can't resist this last bit for those who know:
Johnny Ola didn't have the makings of a varsity Sicilian messenger boy 😂
That's because he didn't want itt, he was too busy chasing skirt.
Bonus: "You heard about the Chinese godfather? He made them an offer they couldn't understand"
Thanks for clarifying these things~ 😊
Not sure if I'll be able to, but I'll try to find the director's cut.
The misunderstanding about Andolini and corleone actually saved Vito’s life. Don ciccio would have pursued him all the way to the United States.
Plus it enabled Vito to have his revenge on Ciccio, up close and personal, since Ciccio did not recognize his name.
I'm not so sure about that. We really have no indication that Ciccio had any direct connection to the mob in the US. In the 1920's/30's very few of the Sicilian oldtimers had muscle in the US, and even in Sicily their reach was principally regional (especially given the constant feuding and localism of the many famiglie). Moreover, do you really think there would be a worldwide hunt for a lone powerless10 year old boy?
Part 3 is quite a good movie. People tend to downplay how good it is because parts 1 and 2 are legendary.
Overall, part 3 feels different because it came out in 1990, so the style had simply changed from the 70s. There's a cut called "Godfather Coda", which is Francis Ford Coppola's director's cut, which people generally recommend over the theatrical version.
All in all, if this movie were standalone, or in any other series, it would be considered a very solid film. It just had impossible standards to live up to.
Agree it's good but the first 2 are masterpieces which make a good movie look ordinary. Greatest Trilogy of all time though
Another give away about Don Fannucci was the small Apartment he had!
Henry....I just have to say that you look so adorable in your black and red suit. You seem like one of the nicest people on you Tube. Good luck to you.
Aw, thank you! 😊
Wish you the best of luck in everything you do too~ 😉
I wish they just made a whole movie about Don Carleones younger days. I like the whole vibe of that era.
Vito vs. Capone!
@@omarharo3132 Capone was real
Johnny Olla worked for Roth. He was Roth's "Sicilian messenger boy."
Yup, I didn't catch that during my first watch. I only found out later.
Thanks for clarifying 😊
Michael is in Cuba on the throes of the Cuban Revolution. Frankie committed suicide the ancient Roman way.
Just a little FYI: Marlon Brando was slated to make a cameo appearance at the end of this film (the final flashback). The reason why it didn't happen is still being debated to this day. The Godfather Part 3 is alright but is missing one important element: Don Vito Corleone.
I expected to see him in the final flashback, too bad he didn't make an appearance...
It’s good to see an intelligent reaction to a film, 🍝
The great visual storytelling shows us that it was definitely personal for Michael. I think it was better that they didn't just straight up say that it was, at least in the movie.
Never read the book but figured out that "personal vs. business" a while back. The killing of Police Chief Mcclusky was personal because he broke Michael's jaw. The smarter move would've been to kill Sollozzo, disarm and instruct Mcclusky to finish his meal and walk out of the restaurant. (edit) Another great reaction.
McClusky also got rid of the guards protecting Vito in the hospital, that's even more personal.
Mcclusky's still a witness in that case.
The killing of McCluskey was risky, but ultimately the papers stories showed Corleone had a lot of dirt on cops, and if the Captain could be slimey so could others.
He couldn't leave behind a witness like McCluskey, who would be eager to testify against him.
Franky 5 Angels' brother appeared to let Franky know that if he snitched, he would take of Franky himself.
Note that the part was supposed to be for Clamenza but due to some disagreements, the actor walked away from the franchise and the part was given to Franky as the underboss under Clemenza who was said to have died.
I see.
If Clemenza came back for this role, it would feel different. Because Clemenza & Frank's personalities are different.
I'm not sure if they changed the script due to Frank taking up the role, but he played his role well 👍
@@henryellow if Clemenza had been the guy at the hearing (as in the books), a real Don from Sicily would have attended... who happens to be Clemenza's elder brother.
Frank Pentangelli's brother reminded him of the Sicilian code of honor called Omerta, the vow of silence. There is nothing more dishonourable than to break Omerta. Which is why just his face was enough.
I agree. Also, Clemenze's vibe just seems more fitting for GFI.
Very nice drip for the vid! Very suiting, also great reaction
Thank you 😊
Another great reaction/analysis, Henry!
Thank you 😊
Great reaction yes play #3 Thank you
Definitely find part 3, before copila redid it a couple years back and watch thay version. Great movies all around. Also check out the deleted scense, amazing stuff
Yes! If you're gonna watch part 3 watch the 1990 version, not Coda (terrible ending).
Very good reaction!!
I like watching you because you asked questions that I never asked myself. For instance, even though I've seen this movie countless times, I never asked myself why Don Fanucci never had "underlings". Thanks for opening my eyes.
I am looking forward to you reacting to Part 3.
Thank you, Daniel 😊
I'm glad you liked my reaction to this.
It's just something I wondered aloud, because I never saw any head of mafia going to do any "dirty job" themselves 😂
I ask the same thing about Hyman Roth
@@omarharo3132 I believe Hyman Roth didn't have any "underlings" (like in mafia) because he isn't running a gang, collecting money, needing protection, etc.
Roth does have subordinates like Johnny Ola, of course.
All the other Dons need the "muscle" to get the dirty deeds done. So it was quite strange for Don Fanucci to do things on his own, considering he was supposed to have a huge backing.
@@henryellow Very true, actually
To be honest, I always took the 'it's just business' thing as their justification for their actions. It's a lie and they KNOW it's a lie, but they lie about a lot anyway. Vito Corleone says in the first movie "We are not murderers" haha, what? Of course they are. Murder forms a core part of what they do. But they deny it to put a reasonable face on their behavior. One thing to keep in mind. Italians immigrated to the US in large numbers and there was a great deal of prejudice against them in the US. So much so that special immigration laws were passed for the sole purpose of limiting Italian immigration. This is important to know, because it forms the reason for Vito Corleone to make the decisions he makes early on. His people need protection that they won't get from mainstream America because his people are a minority that a lot of the mainstream does not like. Think about the two storylines in this movie. We see why Vito was motivated to become powerful- to protect his family and people. We see in Michael's part that building the family's position on a criminal foundation corrupted them and led to the deterioration of the family. Vito himself lived long enough to see his eldest son killed while running a crime organization. Michael lived to see his family rotting from within. They were undone by their own flaws= a real tragedy in story terms.
Vito did what he had to do to provide a better life for his family. I believe part of his motivation is also to get revenge for his parents.
Michael, on the other hand... Well, he faced the problems that most crime organizations would eventually encounter. Inner conflict, and how to "legalize" their businesses.
Yes, their story is a tragedy, in its own way. Thanks for sharing 😊
I think Vito's justification, "We are not murderers", means they do not kill innocent people. When you think about it, the people they murdered are just as corrupt and vicious as they are.
Unspoken in the first GF, Tom betrayed the family when he agreed to try to get Sonny to make a deal with Solozo, the drug dealer. Michael knew this and did not trust Tom as Consigleiri.
At least that's what I believe. There is sooo much subtext in these movies that the more you watch and think about, the fuller the picture.
Very true! The Godfather is the most subtextually layered film ever. I actually agree with Michael here. However, Tom does agree that they have to get Sollozzo and is the only one not laughing when he calls for their blood, so perhaps he's not being so disloyal.
49:55 I begin by confessing that I have not read the Puzo books and know next to nothing about Catholicism. That said, I've often wondered if Michael's marriage to Kay in the first movie and refusing to divorce her in the second had something to do with meeting requirements of being a godfather. I don't think, but certainly don't know for sure, that a single person would be excluded from becoming a godfather by the Catholic church, but perhaps this is an unstated requirement by either the church or by Sicilian society. In any case Michael's marriage to Kay always seemed to have more to do with status than love. Maybe another commenter can clear this up.
I remember during the senate hearing, Michael said, "Godfather is a term that was used by his friends -- one of affection, one of respect."
If he wasn't lying to the Senate committee, then I believe it's a title which close friends use to refer to the Don. So it might not have anything to do with marriage.
That being said, I'm not too sure if this is true or not. So if someone could clarify, that would be great 😊
There's a couple reasons why don't don't divorce, it's mainly for religious reasons though
I'm Roman Catholic and you are correct about the qualifications for being a godparent - a divorced person would be excluded. However, I think Michael refused to divorce Kay because she might re-marry (I doubt she was Catholic, but converted to marry him and would probably leave the Church once they got divorced) and he would not tolerate his children having a stepfather - possibly a stranger introduced to the family dynamic.
@@henryellow Michael was being specific about the word "godfather" used to describe his father, not in the religious, Catholic sense.
I see. Thanks for clarifying, @catherinelw9365 😊
I've been waiting to see you react to this one since you reacted to the first one. This movie, imo, is actually better than the first one. it is also the only movie to win picture of the year after the original won. You can't say it is the only sequel to win, because, technically, 'The Return of the King' is a sequel, but 'Fellowship.....' didn't win. Anyway, this one of the greatest movies of all time, and I'm excited to see you react! Rarely, does anything get past you, and when the reactor is good at noticing the little things as well as the big, it makes it that much more interesting! Keep going, friend. GF 3 is okay, not great, but worth it to finish the trilogy.
Thank you, Gene 😊
Part 1 and Part 2 are both great movies 👍
I got confused about some things during the movie, so I had to do a bit of research afterwards.
Of course, I'll watch Part 3 to finish this trilogy 😉
I just started reading the book, but before I really get into it, I have a theory about Fredo. I think Fredo suffered a bit of brain damage when he was a baby with pneumonia. Remember the scene where Vito anxiously watches his wife and the older woman treat crying Fredo by cupping? I don't see the significance of this scene except to allude that Fredo was very sick with pneumonia, and probably had a fever. Very high fevers can cause a bit of brain damage in a baby. I could be wrong, and maybe the book will support or debunk my theory, but that's what I'm thinking after watching this movie. Later, we see how Fredo seems unable to make connections or put two and two together. He is almost child like when he announces that he's going to Nevada to learn the casino business - he reminded me of a little boy excited to go on a trip. He is almost simple-minded. The more I think about Michael having Fredo killed, the more I feel that Michael should have had Fredo under "house arrest" and simply have him watched and kept as far from business as possible. I think that's the alternative. Fredo could have been happy just to be an uncle to his nieces and nephews and stay close to home.
I have similar thoughts too.
Fredo even reveals his own "betrayal" without realizing it.
Clearly, he is not suited for this business. That's why Vito never put him in charge.
I believe the reason Michael had Fredo killed isn't just because of the betrayal. Michael would have let Fredo live, but Fredo said that he wanted something of his own. He had ambition. He wasn't willing to just sit back and be satisfied with what he had. (He said all this during his argument with Michael near the end).
Michael knew that someone like that was dangerous. So Fredo's fate was sealed.
@@henryellow Yeah, I think you're right. Fredo was dumb yet smart enough to be a danger. His resentment towards Michael after he was "stepped over" sealed his fate.