That happened to me back when I first started driving, as I was speeding, 85 in a 55...on a 2 lane bridge. Rear passenger wheel made contact with the bottom reach of the wall and that was it. I thought I was going over the edge, I don't think my arms have ever moved faster spinning that wheel to just adjust the angle of impact, and boom. Upside down. But hey, no other cars involved and I was the only one that got hurt, and that was from falling into the busted windshield unbuckling, not from impact. A fucking miracle win as far as wrecks can go. I count my blessings, trust me. Needless to say, Ive been hyper sensitive to the state of my suspension ever since. Thanks for the vid!
My ‘02 Yukon xl gets the wobble of death around 65-70 I got an alignment and balance which helped it but it recently started up again. Watching this video helped me understand more of what’s happening. Thanks guys.
Had it happen to my 2015 Jeep Wrangler. It's definitely scary and this video explains alot. Still an expensive repair, for all the parts that has to be replaced.
I drove a power steering induced shimmy on a ‘67 travelall. It was not uncommon for this on several manufacturers of cars in the ‘60’s. Happened both on the an arm suspension and the straight axle with leaf springs (same power steering). Have fun
Reduce speed on the highway. I never go over 60 ph. Mine has done it since brand new. It's an engineering issue. I've had 4 new jeeps and 2 F-250s if you have worn out parts that will only bring it on more often. Anything with a straight axle on the front will do it. I put bigger shocks on mine. It helps. I think what's happening is at speed and you hit a small bump in the road the front tires are trying to stay in contact with the rd and the suspension gets confused for just a second trying stay in contact with the road. Then it will start to wobble. At speed the air is coming up under the front end and raising the front end reducing tire contact with the rd and the wobble will start. In some cases an inexperienced driver will panic. I'm certain people have been killed because of this. It's very scary when it happens. It can throw you right into another lane in a second without warning. But the best solution is to not worry what other drivers are doing. Reduce your speed. My safe speed is 55 to 60 period. Over that your just asking for trouble. Be safe.
Just bought a 96 Silverado, thought it was a tire causing the extrem Jerks and shakes, its extremely bad, not because of rotors or brakes. As far as driving, steering has some play. And I hear a clank when shifting from reverse to park. Not extremely loud. But noticeable. Your the closest iv come to an answer. thanks bunches
Other than the front suspension, I would have the ujoints inspected for play. The clank from reverse to park sounds like a usual suspect for unjoint play. Happy to help!
I can say yes, because bad front shocks or struts can cause a braking vibration if you have one functional and one nonfunctional, which will cause a front end bounce side to side. Now this is more rare than a warped rotor situation which we have seen at our shop even on brand new cars with less than 5000 miles. So though more rare, front suspension or steering can cause a shake under braking, but is typically rotor issue more often than not.
We don’t normally find that a particular driver will cause premature wear and tear on a power steering system. But holding excessive pressure at the end of where the steering wheel rotations ends can put either the steering rack or pump and gear in a position where the assisted system is placing more than normal pressure on the mechanical aspect of the vehicle’s steering. So if said person is terrible at getting into parking spaces constantly wrenching end to end in an attempt to park a car, with the audible stressing sounds that the pump or rack will make then yes that could cause premature wear to the system.
Mine only does this on occasion & only for a a few seconds, and sometimes its very mild. Rarely it's bad. But it seems to start happening after maybe 10 to 15 mins of driving, or when going down or uphill.
Get the vehicle professionally test driven: High speed cruising Any shaking under braking Vibration under acceleration Vibration from pot hole/pavement seam (Suspension rebounding) Large control arm bushings upper and lower can cause vibrations.
@@ThePitStopTirePros Lol I don't even know where I'd go to get a vehicle "professionally test driven". But I agree that it definitely needs more than just a short jaunt when the shop is testing it out. I'll be sure to mention this when I take it in. I've been stalling on doing so lol, things keep coming up.
I have a 2005 Yukon and is doing the same thing as the video, so I took it to a four different shops and they said the suspension is good, i don’t know what to do at this point 😢
I have a chevy 2500 express van 2005. It has the shakes as you described. What does it cost to have this fix if all part are needed to be replace? I am trying to decide if it is worth repairing or retiring the van. Need ball park cost.
Great video, my 02 Duramax doesn’t shake on driving. I can drive it perfectly. But when I hit the brakes this is what it does. Except my steering wheel does NOT shake at all. But everything else feels like it wants to just fall off. Any help?
Shaking under braking in our experience is always a rotor issue. When brake pads and rotors meet, they generate massive amounts of friction which translates to heat. Once gathered enough heat, metal becomes pliable and as soon as you hit your brakes again in a sudden stop the brake rotor can slightly bend making the rotor now untrue but only detectable by using the brake pedal or by measuring with a micrometer. There are very rare occasions that shaking under braking are a caused by something else like one functioning and one nonfunctional front shock or strut, but again more rare. I would suggest a run out with a micrometer to verify warped rotors and after confirming, replacement.
So a truck with a swing set is tested with the steering wheel shake test? If I have no play anywhere after the shake test it’s fine? I have a 1999 sierra 4x4. I can move the wheel quite easily side to side making the pitman arm ball joint flex and move but there’s no clank or separation and my truck runs fine. Is it probably still okay?
That’s just part of the diagnosis, vehicle still needs to be lifted by the suspension and have wheel bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. tested. Linkage from column down the steering shaft and mini ujoints (usually more than one) to gear box tested as well.
Great question, in that case that would be your braking system, specifically warped rotors. When the metal heats up, the spinning rotor on the wheel hub has a bend in it which usually can’t be seen but has to be measured with a micrometer. Every revolution of spin on the rotor causes a vibration from the bend sending it into the steering column. New brake will fix that issue.
@@johndeninger8905 I have a 2016 3500 Silverado that ocassionally has a wobble when braking it will go days and not do it, it started after a oil change and tire rotation it only has 64000 miles and has been taken very good care of, it's not a brake rotor issue or it would be constant when braking.
If your vehicle is equipped with the same steering linkage with the same wear and tear we had experienced with this particular vehicle then yes. What our video highlights are the potential component repairs that we had diagnosed and found with this customer’s vehicle. Now if you are experiencing the same issue with your vehicle we would recommend the same diagnosis to find what is causing the vibration. Not all repairs are performed equally but this is our attempt to showcase one of the worse case scenarios we had faced with a issue commonly know as the “Chevy shake/ death wobble”. Some minor vibration issue can be solved with just a simple tire balance. But we feel being transparent to our diagnosis and repairs of certain vehicles gives the public a perspective that is typically not publicized.
I have a 08 chevy 3500HD DRW same as video. im getting a small shake and vibration at about 80mph. my steering box is questionably the problem because I can turn the wheel or twist the steering shaft but its not turning the pitman arm. Another problem im having is im able to move/jiggle the steering shaft and tracing the movement to behind the steering wheel and before the firewall? I've tried looking for a steering shaft bearing that I seen people replace in the 99-06 models, but can't find any replacement parts associated with that. Any suggestions??
I would say the high speed vibrations could be as simple as a tire balance, I would suggest someone with lot of experience on a well maintained and calibrated balance machine or road force balancer. Could also be the ujoints on the drive shaft. It would depend on it feeling like a fast vibration or a slower vibration at 80. The play in the steering could definitely be the gear box and linkage combined from the steering shaft. Some of the steering linkage also has very small ujoints that can also go bad. This “wandering” feeling is pretty common amongst these older work trucks.
I had a Ranger that started doing the death wobble after hitting about a 2 inch drop due to road work. I thought my front tires were coming off. Had new tires put on just a few days before and thought they didn't tighten the lug nuts. After that first time it would start doing the death wobble every time I hit a bump. A friend told me to try changing the serpentine belt and I thought, no way that's the problem but figured wth probably needs changing anyway and amazingly to me it DID fix the problem. Since then I've heard of several different issues that were caused by bad serp belts that you would never think it would be causing the problem unless you already knew it could be the problem.
Does this death wobble only happens when hitting a bump or something I have a wobble that goes away after parked over night and comes back later could be months or weeks but Damb it comes back
Once the shocks warm up and you hit a small bump in the rd it can happen. With cold shocks the front end is forced down harder to the rd and making better contact with the rd.
I've got a 1988 GMC k 1500 and have to put an idler arm on there every time I get it inspected The idler arms never hold up for maybe 6 months no matter what brand or how expensive
@@ThePitStopTirePros from 1988 to 1999 or 2000 GMC k 1500s and even that two-wheel drives it was more or less the same drive shaft ball joints pitman arms idler arms outer tie rods for 1500 up to the 3500 they just weren't made properly I don't think
If it’s at speed that your vehicle experiences cavitation besides steering linkage, and suspension, out of round tires/ broken belts, bent rims and unbalanced tires can cause vibrations.
Does it happen at 55? If not. Drive 55. That speed maybe the upper limit your vehicle can go to keep the front tires in contact with the rd. If you have worn out parts that's another story. The death wobble is no joke. Reduce speed.
Thanks happen to me today 1 ton express van every time I go onto the on ramp it shakes like that but if I slow down and gas it goes away. Particularly right hand long shaper turns or on ramps. Happened today bad but worse then ever
That’s sounds more like a drive train issue like ujoints or carrier bearing. Acceleration only issues, in our experience tend to lean in that direction, but inspection is paramount.
@@ThePitStopTirePros i already had that issue in a couple vehicles and its not that. maybe i made it sound like that. i am talking my truck shakes like a loam screener. when i had the carrier bearing issue it felt as if i randomly rode over the rumble strip on the side of the highway but not as bad as if you actually did. i own 13 of these vans. i'm dropping it off tomorrow. its in the front i can feel it. also should state i went school to be a mechanic. i realized how much i hated it. lol i do like working on projects but not as a living. i dont think i could live like i do now being a mechanic. it was a passion when i was younger, i was all about the Eagle talons AWD turbo. i had one that ran 35lbs of boost. fun stuff back then. high 9 second car. i know off subject. lol thanks for the response.
I am having the EXACT same thing happen to my 05 Silverado 1500. However it only happens intermittently, like maybe after 10 mins of driving & just happens whenever it feels like it. Sometimes its a light shake others its violent like in this video. Any tips?
The reason for the shake if you where to slow it down in super slow-mo is it’s actually bouncing from one point to another within the suspension or steering system. That point to point bounce could be steering stabilizer, control arm bushings or looseness in ball joints or a combination of any of them. Typically it takes at least one good bounce to get the back and forth from loose end to loose end to get the shaking started ergo the intermittency. Have the front end inspected for anything out of tolerance and replaced if needed. The best thing you can do is find a scenario that you can duplicate for your local mechanic shop so they can test before and after repairs and verify the fix. Sometimes it’s a specific pothole or pavement seam that will get the “party” started.
@@ThePitStopTirePros Lol I honestly can't really find anything specific that gets it rockin'. It just seems to kind of happen randomly. It does seem to get worse at higher speeds and while its happening braking or turning definitely makes it worse. It's so intermittent tho that I am afraid the shop might have a hard time getting it to happen unless they take it out for a good 10 minutes or longer. I do have an appt with the shop this week so hopefully they can figure out the problem.
@@destructo870 LOL so it turns out it was merely the right front Brake Caliper locking up! All these months I've been trying to track down suspension issues because of this video, when it was the Brakes all along.... May have been a good idea to mention that in the video here.
I need help ): I have so many new parts in the front end on my 2006 Yukon Denali AWD. I’ve taken it to a few shops and they can’t figure out what it is. One person suggested it could be the awd system. The dealership said they checked everything, steering column, shaft , gear box and nothing had play in my front end. Idk what to do I can’t figure out what it is, it’s in oem 22 inch rims
Did you find out what’s the problem? I have the same problem in a 2005 Yukon I took it to four different shops and they can’t find out what’s the problem 😢
At first I only had some steering wheel play, but now after replacing parts my truck bucks like a bull. Can't even get to the road, it bounces like a lowrider, and the only way to stop it is by braking completely. Many new parts, WHY?
I have a 2004 Chevy express and is doing the death wobble arround the 50MPH, as soon as I start braking it stops happening, the van does have after market wheels, the lugs seem to be kind of loose. (Holes a bit to big on wheels) Can someone help please? I replaced steering gear box and pitman arm and didn’t work.
I would have a qualified tech check the center on the aftermarket wheels. Centering rings should be used if the studs nor the hub center to the wheel and torqued by hand to specified amount. Braking to stop a vibration sounds like the suspension, including bushings on control arms should also be professionally checked. A blown out control arm bushing can bounce from worn or torn bushings at mounting points.
An unbalanced wheel/tire will be in a specific speed range, typically from 50-80mph. The cavitation will also not be exclusive to the steering linkage but rather the vehicle chassis. Unbalanced wheel/tires are typically a tolerable amount of shaking not uncontrollable. There are rare cases when a wheel can fill with mud off road or ice in the winter that can cause severe shaking but those kinds of cases are usually noticeable from a quick external inspection.
@@ThePitStopTirePros got it thanks. My 01 Tahoe shakes pretty bad about 60mph if I keep increasing the speed it will death wobble but I know the tires are unbalanced I hoping for it to be the blame being a super easy fix 😄
I have got 3 different opinions on my chevy blazer, and I don't know what to do, when you drive my truck reach 40mph you notice the truck will pull to the right than quickly go left and keep going left like you on a block of ice so I throw on the breaks to stop and it turn more left whenever you hit the breaks, I don't know what to do, I'm a woman and I can't find no mechanic that can be truly honest with me to tell me what's the serious problem going on with my chevy blazer, can someone please I beg to help me!
It’s very hard to give advice without seeing or having the vehicle in person but based on the description that the vehicle pulls and pulls more when the brakes are applied it could be a warped rotor(s) on the left side that would cause the wheel to suddenly turn. Radial pull can also cause a vehicle to pull but is more rare and typically with cheaper tires. It could also be a faulty caliper or caliper slide that is stuck on the slides and not properly moving. Causing one side to engage more than the other. Multiple things, but all the symptoms need to be expressed as detailed as possible to a diagnosing mechanic who can duplicate the symptoms in order for them to properly diagnose the effected components.
This is the 3th time I took my Chev 2013 to dealership- it shaking so bad each time but when they drive the car is not shaking - I don’t know what to do 😢
Take it to a local mechanic one that will take the time to do multiple test drives. Dealership mechanics are typically flat rate only, so they’ll do a single drive for diagnostic and move on to a more straightforward repair to fill their paycheck. Most don’t incentivize diagnostics work over booked time repairs.
That vehicle was showing about 10% of Death Wobble. When the steering wheel is making violent 180°+ swings and the front fenders are jumping about 12 inches with the tires leaving the ground, you're experiencing actual death wobble. Many times caused by more worn/damaged parts than a couple tie rod ends, the most violent are typically caused by someone making stupid, stupid alterations and/or having mangled the front end by way of their moronic driving skills. That's why it almost always happens exclusively on Chevies and Jeeps.
I had that 180 degree violent jerking steering wheel happen on my ‘05 Chevy Cavalier years ago. It was a horrific experience as a new-ish driver. The car ended up crossing three lanes and a sidewalk before crashing into a pole to stop… and I was only going a few miles an hour after making a left turn. It was like it had a mind of its own! It was raining. Braking did nothing but leave rubber on the road. The steering wheel just wouldn’t stop jerking back-and-forth! I held on for dear life! I’ve always attributed it to a loose steering wheel column. But the car got totaled, so I’ll never know for sure. Thank God no one died. Death wobble indeed!
My 04 Tahoe started doing this just a few days ago....I hit a bump in the road and it started shaking like crazy.. scared the crap out of me... It shakes a lil while driving at about 35 to 55 miles an hour.. but if I hit s bump or imperfections in the road.. it goes crazy.... Now I know what to do.. fulll steering linkage and suspension replacement...
2004, 2500 / 4 wheel drive , Mine is in the rear end and started after using the 4 wheel drive 4 LOW in mud, it bounces like a basketball at 45 mph now in rear of the truck using the 2 wheel drive on first drive after the mud and going back to 2 wheel drive ? There is no mud on the tires just the mud stain !
@@MrSymbolic7 Impossible to diagnose remotely, but would suggest looking at any rear track bar or radius arms in the rear end. Check and make sure no bushings were damaged from the off-roading. Bouncing will occur from connections points that allow movement. The bouncing is in those connection points moving from end to end created by a cavitation once you’ve hit 45mph. Could also be damage to propeller shaft with either damaged to the shaft, any balance weights or the ujoints as well.
After having my tires balanced and rebalanced, the front end aligned by 3 different shops along with the chevy dealer replacing the outer tie rods, pitman arm and idler and I added a front stabilizer shock I finally got to the problem. I replaced the brake calipers, pads, and rotors. No more pulling to the right and no wobble what so ever. FYI PS I also revamped the stupid vibration isolator on the center link.
I have had this issue in a number of service vehicles I drove replaced many of these parts on them to all of these parts on my personal chevy express service van which at that point I gave up and found new tires and tire rotation fixes it temporarily haha (not safe) still. Anyway few days ago I rotated the tires still having all fairly new everything in this video on the vehicle still, when rotating due to the shake coming back I decided to grease up my ball joints upper and lower since they looked about due, upon getting back to the road and hitting 40mph the shake started and worse then it's ever been which has drawn me to the conclusion of the upper and lower ball joints especially after going back and putting tires back to same sides as they were prior to rotating where it barely had a shake. Sounds extremely strange to me that something controlling the chamber would be the cause but it's the only part besides the control arm that hasn't been replaced and I'm gonna try just that this evening hopefully, the upper and lower ball joints. Great video definitely not disagreeing because this video does cover the issues most cases, but ive had a few with the infamous death wobble where these components didn't work except for the first 15 to 20 miles after replacing then right back to shaking your tail feather lmao. Have you all ever had ball joints be the cause is what this paragraph was originally getting at?
The only other time we’ve seen an at speed wobble that was hard to trace was an express van that had lower control arm bushings that were intact but worn out causing the control arms to excessively bounce laterally.
@@ThePitStopTirePros cool, I will check that before doing ball joints, I thought that but they did look to be in good shape as far as I could see but yeah don't get a good view on them anyway so it's hard to tell. Thanks for the extra help. Happy I came across your video its definitely helpful on this annoying problem.
Wow, worn parts leading to death wobble, who would have thought, apparently these guys have never had a Ram or Ford death wobble? 😂😂 Dont see it much in our mixed fleet on Chevys, but the Fords and Ram trucks have constant deathwobble with minimal parts wear.
Our shake only happens when going 50+ going down hill and we're trying to break and it shakes pretty hard. But damn not that hard like on your video. But otherwise on the flats when breaking it never shakes. Only when going downhill
That’s sounds more like warped rotors, have a mechanic do a run out test with a micrometer. Even 2-3 thousandths can manifest shaking due to warpage. Happens here in the mountains all the time.
On my 2009 Yukon 2500 XL with a 4" lift I replaced the tires first because of the wobble. Then I replaced all the shocks. Then had the tie rod ends changed. Upper and lower a-arms changed then the pitman and idler arms. I adjusted the torsion bars and had the alignment redone. Tires balancing done many many times. It still wobbles excessively at 65-75. Even hitting bumps in the road cause shaking, but you don't really see it in the steering wheel. You feel it in the floor and the seats. I am stumped, what else could it be? Also replaced the bump stops and sway bar link bushings. What is left besides a gas can and a match? Help
I didn’t see steering stabilizer in the replacement parts. I would also wonder the speed of the vibration. Speed of the tires (slow) or speed of the driveshaft (fast). Still could have more parts to consider. Would recommend a specialist with drivetrain and suspension. Could have a driveshaft out of balance, rack bushings, ujoints hanging up. Again would depend on the location of the vibration, and the speed of it.
Dodge death wobble. Jeep death wobble. Chevy shake. Maybe it's time the auto manufacturers go back to putting grease zerks on the steering and suspension joints so we can maintain our vehicles properly. But no, the manufacturers can save $10 per vehicle without the zerks.
the play in the joints... well that is wrong. Take a big pair of water pump plyers and to push down on the ball joint, if it moves up and down it is bad. Not the way he explained it.. ball joints are suppose to move, just like your knees and elbows. And he forgot the most crucial part. the mounted arm on the passenger side of the frame. That and the pitman arm will cause the shake...and a blown out shock.
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The death wobble is not the same as a vehicle with worn parts or bad breaks. Its a totally different issue. All 5 of my brand new 4 wheel drive trucks did it from day 1. The only solution is to reduce speed. Period. By slowing down your keeping the front tires in better contact with the rd. If you get the wobble at 60 or above dont drive 60. Its a design issue with vehicles with a straight axle. Its very scary when it happens. Slow down. People are getting killed because of this. And they know it. In a second you can lose total control. Slow down.
Now THIS video was ALOT better!!I have a 03 2500 Chevy and it shakes a lot
That happened to me back when I first started driving, as I was speeding, 85 in a 55...on a 2 lane bridge. Rear passenger wheel made contact with the bottom reach of the wall and that was it. I thought I was going over the edge, I don't think my arms have ever moved faster spinning that wheel to just adjust the angle of impact, and boom. Upside down.
But hey, no other cars involved and I was the only one that got hurt, and that was from falling into the busted windshield unbuckling, not from impact. A fucking miracle win as far as wrecks can go. I count my blessings, trust me.
Needless to say, Ive been hyper sensitive to the state of my suspension ever since.
Thanks for the vid!
I usually hate mechanic videos (rather than using the manual) but you guys did a fantastic job on this one.
My ‘02 Yukon xl gets the wobble of death around 65-70 I got an alignment and balance which helped it but it recently started up again. Watching this video helped me understand more of what’s happening. Thanks guys.
Had it happen to my 2015 Jeep Wrangler. It's definitely scary and this video explains alot. Still an expensive repair, for all the parts that has to be replaced.
I explain to my local mechanic an he don't know what the problem was now I know thank you
I drove a power steering induced shimmy on a ‘67 travelall. It was not uncommon for this on several manufacturers of cars in the ‘60’s. Happened both on the an arm suspension and the straight axle with leaf springs (same power steering). Have fun
Thanks guys awesome info man doing my outer and lower and pitman on my driver's side today appreciate it
Did that fix it? Currently getting that done
Steering box was the issue for me. Still a little shake but will replace pittman and idler arms next pay check
How long has this been going on, my family and I are terrified. The name is true to how one feels
Reduce speed on the highway. I never go over 60 ph. Mine has done it since brand new. It's an engineering issue. I've had 4 new jeeps and 2 F-250s if you have worn out parts that will only bring it on more often. Anything with a straight axle on the front will do it. I put bigger shocks on mine. It helps. I think what's happening is at speed and you hit a small bump in the road the front tires are trying to stay in contact with the rd and the suspension gets confused for just a second trying stay in contact with the road. Then it will start to wobble. At speed the air is coming up under the front end and raising the front end reducing tire contact with the rd and the wobble will start. In some cases an inexperienced driver will panic. I'm certain people have been killed because of this. It's very scary when it happens. It can throw you right into another lane in a second without warning. But the best solution is to not worry what other drivers are doing. Reduce your speed. My safe speed is 55 to 60 period. Over that your just asking for trouble. Be safe.
Just bought a 96 Silverado, thought it was a tire causing the extrem Jerks and shakes, its extremely bad, not because of rotors or brakes. As far as driving, steering has some play. And I hear a clank when shifting from reverse to park. Not extremely loud. But noticeable. Your the closest iv come to an answer. thanks bunches
Other than the front suspension, I would have the ujoints inspected for play. The clank from reverse to park sounds like a usual suspect for unjoint play. Happy to help!
@@ThePitStopTirePros ha thats exactly the plan thank u so much. Now just finding someone to do it that affordable. Bad experiences in the past.
@@pamelaclark8627did that end up fixing the issue? Dealing with the exact same thing right now
@@jakesteele4047 Idk I sold it lol
My Nissan Pathfinder is starting to do this only when braking down hill at 60mph.
Any thoughts?
Keep up the great content.
Warped rotors, more than likely front.
Good job, thanks for the tutorial.
Can I ask, What's the connection between a faulty tierod and a ragging or filing tyre?
Sorry I guess I don’t understand the reference to “ragging or filing tire” can you elaborate the symptoms.
Can a bad tie rod or anything related to the suspension or steering cause my steering wheel to vibrate/shake when i brake?
Yes
@@12MRJERSEY thanks
I can say yes, because bad front shocks or struts can cause a braking vibration if you have one functional and one nonfunctional, which will cause a front end bounce side to side. Now this is more rare than a warped rotor situation which we have seen at our shop even on brand new cars with less than 5000 miles. So though more rare, front suspension or steering can cause a shake under braking, but is typically rotor issue more often than not.
Very helpful thank you
If you change these parts yourself, don’t forget the front end alignment right away or you may still think there’s problems.
How much does just what you replaced cost
How do steering box go bad? Does it have anything to do with driver errors
We don’t normally find that a particular driver will cause premature wear and tear on a power steering system. But holding excessive pressure at the end of where the steering wheel rotations ends can put either the steering rack or pump and gear in a position where the assisted system is placing more than normal pressure on the mechanical aspect of the vehicle’s steering. So if said person is terrible at getting into parking spaces constantly wrenching end to end in an attempt to park a car, with the audible stressing sounds that the pump or rack will make then yes that could cause premature wear to the system.
@@ThePitStopTirePros thank you! That’s exactly what I wanted to know. What could cause premature wear.
Yes, poor drivers constantly hitting curbs destroy parts-look at the rims,if damaged other parts are damaged
Enjoyed video!
Mine only does this on occasion & only for a a few seconds, and sometimes its very mild. Rarely it's bad. But it seems to start happening after maybe 10 to 15 mins of driving, or when going down or uphill.
Usually happens at higher speeds, like 60+ MPH.
Get the vehicle professionally test driven:
High speed cruising
Any shaking under braking
Vibration under acceleration
Vibration from pot hole/pavement seam
(Suspension rebounding)
Large control arm bushings upper and lower can cause vibrations.
@@ThePitStopTirePros Lol I don't even know where I'd go to get a vehicle "professionally test driven". But I agree that it definitely needs more than just a short jaunt when the shop is testing it out. I'll be sure to mention this when I take it in. I've been stalling on doing so lol, things keep coming up.
I have a 2005 Yukon and is doing the same thing as the video, so I took it to a four different shops and they said the suspension is good, i don’t know what to do at this point 😢
I have a chevy 2500 express van 2005. It has the shakes as you described. What does it cost to have this fix if all part are needed to be replace? I am trying to decide if it is worth repairing or retiring the van. Need ball park cost.
It will always depend on the parts needed for the replacement but avgs for front end can range from $1500-$3000+ depending on your region.
Great video, my 02 Duramax doesn’t shake on driving. I can drive it perfectly. But when I hit the brakes this is what it does. Except my steering wheel does NOT shake at all. But everything else feels like it wants to just fall off. Any help?
Could be warped rotors if it’s only when braking. Possibly control arm bushings
My Yukon shakes when i break. Any thoughts on that? Thank you!!
Shaking under braking in our experience is always a rotor issue. When brake pads and rotors meet, they generate massive amounts of friction which translates to heat. Once gathered enough heat, metal becomes pliable and as soon as you hit your brakes again in a sudden stop the brake rotor can slightly bend making the rotor now untrue but only detectable by using the brake pedal or by measuring with a micrometer. There are very rare occasions that shaking under braking are a caused by something else like one functioning and one nonfunctional front shock or strut, but again more rare. I would suggest a run out with a micrometer to verify warped rotors and after confirming, replacement.
@@ThePitStopTirePros thank you for responding. I will replace both rotors. And pads.
Rotor warped
is that a zerk on the center link?
So a truck with a swing set is tested with the steering wheel shake test? If I have no play anywhere after the shake test it’s fine? I have a 1999 sierra 4x4. I can move the wheel quite easily side to side making the pitman arm ball joint flex and move but there’s no clank or separation and my truck runs fine. Is it probably still okay?
That’s just part of the diagnosis, vehicle still needs to be lifted by the suspension and have wheel bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. tested. Linkage from column down the steering shaft and mini ujoints (usually more than one) to gear box tested as well.
so my 2013 gmc sierra 2500hd only shake sometimes when you put the brakes on so would this be like the same thing as this?
Great question, in that case that would be your braking system, specifically warped rotors. When the metal heats up, the spinning rotor on the wheel hub has a bend in it which usually can’t be seen but has to be measured with a micrometer. Every revolution of spin on the rotor causes a vibration from the bend sending it into the steering column. New brake will fix that issue.
torque your wheel nuts to specs , if you have to do it yourself if tire place does not torque them, it is one cause of warped rotors
ive got a 2019 chevy express 2500, i have approx. 17,000 miles, when i hit the breaks it shakes, every now an then it gets crazy wobble , wth
@@johndeninger8905 I have a 2016 3500 Silverado that ocassionally has a wobble when braking it will go days and not do it, it started after a oil change and tire rotation it only has 64000 miles and has been taken very good care of, it's not a brake rotor issue or it would be constant when braking.
would this be the same parts to check if shakes after when at 65 mph shakes and stops if you go below 65 and will stop if going above 70 mph
That would be most likely a tire balance.
Thank you!
My 2015 Yukon vibrate at high speed starting from 130
lol happened on my way home from dump today LOL had it happen years ago hauling wood for my gpa to lol but this truck is doing it on smooth roads
I liked your video. So I guess it's probably the same thing for a 2011 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4. If not please let me know. Thanks!
If your vehicle is equipped with the same steering linkage with the same wear and tear we had experienced with this particular vehicle then yes. What our video highlights are the potential component repairs that we had diagnosed and found with this customer’s vehicle. Now if you are experiencing the same issue with your vehicle we would recommend the same diagnosis to find what is causing the vibration. Not all repairs are performed equally but this is our attempt to showcase one of the worse case scenarios we had faced with a issue commonly know as the “Chevy shake/ death wobble”. Some minor vibration issue can be solved with just a simple tire balance. But we feel being transparent to our diagnosis and repairs of certain vehicles gives the public a perspective that is typically not publicized.
I have a 08 chevy 3500HD DRW same as video. im getting a small shake and vibration at about 80mph. my steering box is questionably the problem because I can turn the wheel or twist the steering shaft but its not turning the pitman arm. Another problem im having is im able to move/jiggle the steering shaft and tracing the movement to behind the steering wheel and before the firewall? I've tried looking for a steering shaft bearing that I seen people replace in the 99-06 models, but can't find any replacement parts associated with that. Any suggestions??
I would say the high speed vibrations could be as simple as a tire balance, I would suggest someone with lot of experience on a well maintained and calibrated balance machine or road force balancer. Could also be the ujoints on the drive shaft. It would depend on it feeling like a fast vibration or a slower vibration at 80. The play in the steering could definitely be the gear box and linkage combined from the steering shaft. Some of the steering linkage also has very small ujoints that can also go bad. This “wandering” feeling is pretty common amongst these older work trucks.
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I had a Ranger that started doing the death wobble after hitting about a 2 inch drop due to road work. I thought my front tires were coming off. Had new tires put on just a few days before and thought they didn't tighten the lug nuts. After that first time it would start doing the death wobble every time I hit a bump. A friend told me to try changing the serpentine belt and I thought, no way that's the problem but figured wth probably needs changing anyway and amazingly to me it DID fix the problem. Since then I've heard of several different issues that were caused by bad serp belts that you would never think it would be causing the problem unless you already knew it could be the problem.
Does this death wobble only happens when hitting a bump or something
I have a wobble that goes away after parked over night and comes back later could be months or weeks but Damb it comes back
Once the shocks warm up and you hit a small bump in the rd it can happen. With cold shocks the front end is forced down harder to the rd and making better contact with the rd.
My death wobble started on a bridge at 65mph on a Dodge Ram 3500
My Chevy Tahoe 2015 shakes but not as violently or strong and only when I make it up to 80 mph. What could it be?
Sounds like a tire balance issue. I would have the shop preroll each tire to see if the tires are all out or if one just lost some weights.
I've got a 1988 GMC k 1500 and have to put an idler arm on there every time I get it inspected The idler arms never hold up for maybe 6 months no matter what brand or how expensive
I would make sure they’re regularly greased every oil change. But might be a secondary issue contributing to the short life of the part.
@@ThePitStopTirePros from 1988 to 1999 or 2000 GMC k 1500s and even that two-wheel drives it was more or less the same drive shaft ball joints pitman arms idler arms outer tie rods for 1500 up to the 3500 they just weren't made properly I don't think
I've checked every part three times replaced steering box pitman arm alignment this test drove at 60 going over overpass still wobbles ?????
If it’s at speed that your vehicle experiences cavitation besides steering linkage, and suspension, out of round tires/ broken belts, bent rims and unbalanced tires can cause vibrations.
Does it happen at 55? If not. Drive 55. That speed maybe the upper limit your vehicle can go to keep the front tires in contact with the rd. If you have worn out parts that's another story. The death wobble is no joke. Reduce speed.
Thanks happen to me today 1 ton express van every time I go onto the on ramp it shakes like that but if I slow down and gas it goes away. Particularly right hand long shaper turns or on ramps. Happened today bad but worse then ever
That’s sounds more like a drive train issue like ujoints or carrier bearing. Acceleration only issues, in our experience tend to lean in that direction, but inspection is paramount.
@@ThePitStopTirePros i already had that issue in a couple vehicles and its not that. maybe i made it sound like that. i am talking my truck shakes like a loam screener. when i had the carrier bearing issue it felt as if i randomly rode over the rumble strip on the side of the highway but not as bad as if you actually did. i own 13 of these vans. i'm dropping it off tomorrow. its in the front i can feel it. also should state i went school to be a mechanic. i realized how much i hated it. lol i do like working on projects but not as a living. i dont think i could live like i do now being a mechanic. it was a passion when i was younger, i was all about the Eagle talons AWD turbo. i had one that ran 35lbs of boost. fun stuff back then. high 9 second car. i know off subject. lol thanks for the response.
I am having the EXACT same thing happen to my 05 Silverado 1500. However it only happens intermittently, like maybe after 10 mins of driving & just happens whenever it feels like it. Sometimes its a light shake others its violent like in this video. Any tips?
The reason for the shake if you where to slow it down in super slow-mo is it’s actually bouncing from one point to another within the suspension or steering system. That point to point bounce could be steering stabilizer, control arm bushings or looseness in ball joints or a combination of any of them. Typically it takes at least one good bounce to get the back and forth from loose end to loose end to get the shaking started ergo the intermittency. Have the front end inspected for anything out of tolerance and replaced if needed. The best thing you can do is find a scenario that you can duplicate for your local mechanic shop so they can test before and after repairs and verify the fix. Sometimes it’s a specific pothole or pavement seam that will get the “party” started.
@@ThePitStopTirePros Lol I honestly can't really find anything specific that gets it rockin'. It just seems to kind of happen randomly. It does seem to get worse at higher speeds and while its happening braking or turning definitely makes it worse.
It's so intermittent tho that I am afraid the shop might have a hard time getting it to happen unless they take it out for a good 10 minutes or longer. I do have an appt with the shop this week so hopefully they can figure out the problem.
@@skins4thewin mine started light like that for about a year lol. Now it's death shake
@@destructo870 LOL so it turns out it was merely the right front Brake Caliper locking up! All these months I've been trying to track down suspension issues because of this video, when it was the Brakes all along....
May have been a good idea to mention that in the video here.
I need help ): I have so many new parts in the front end on my 2006 Yukon Denali AWD. I’ve taken it to a few shops and they can’t figure out what it is. One person suggested it could be the awd system. The dealership said they checked everything, steering column, shaft , gear box and nothing had play in my front end. Idk what to do I can’t figure out what it is, it’s in oem 22 inch rims
Did you find out what’s the problem?
I have the same problem in a 2005 Yukon I took it to four different shops and they can’t find out what’s the problem 😢
@@waltherflores2048 nope I have not, still own the truck running perfect, other than that steering wobble it has sadly
At first I only had some steering wheel play, but now after replacing parts my truck bucks like a bull. Can't even get to the road, it bounces like a lowrider, and the only way to stop it is by braking completely. Many new parts, WHY?
Curious now what this all cost the 3500 customer
Well done.
Swing set system
I have a 2004 Chevy express and is doing the death wobble arround the 50MPH, as soon as I start braking it stops happening, the van does have after market wheels, the lugs seem to be kind of loose. (Holes a bit to big on wheels)
Can someone help please?
I replaced steering gear box and pitman arm and didn’t work.
I would have a qualified tech check the center on the aftermarket wheels. Centering rings should be used if the studs nor the hub center to the wheel and torqued by hand to specified amount. Braking to stop a vibration sounds like the suspension, including bushings on control arms should also be professionally checked. A blown out control arm bushing can bounce from worn or torn bushings at mounting points.
What about unbalanced wheels?
An unbalanced wheel/tire will be in a specific speed range, typically from 50-80mph. The cavitation will also not be exclusive to the steering linkage but rather the vehicle chassis. Unbalanced wheel/tires are typically a tolerable amount of shaking not uncontrollable. There are rare cases when a wheel can fill with mud off road or ice in the winter that can cause severe shaking but those kinds of cases are usually noticeable from a quick external inspection.
@@ThePitStopTirePros got it thanks. My 01 Tahoe shakes pretty bad about 60mph if I keep increasing the speed it will death wobble but I know the tires are unbalanced I hoping for it to be the blame being a super easy fix 😄
Where is your location?
I have got 3 different opinions on my chevy blazer, and I don't know what to do, when you drive my truck reach 40mph you notice the truck will pull to the right than quickly go left and keep going left like you on a block of ice so I throw on the breaks to stop and it turn more left whenever you hit the breaks, I don't know what to do, I'm a woman and I can't find no mechanic that can be truly honest with me to tell me what's the serious problem going on with my chevy blazer, can someone please I beg to help me!
It’s very hard to give advice without seeing or having the vehicle in person but based on the description that the vehicle pulls and pulls more when the brakes are applied it could be a warped rotor(s) on the left side that would cause the wheel to suddenly turn. Radial pull can also cause a vehicle to pull but is more rare and typically with cheaper tires. It could also be a faulty caliper or caliper slide that is stuck on the slides and not properly moving. Causing one side to engage more than the other. Multiple things, but all the symptoms need to be expressed as detailed as possible to a diagnosing mechanic who can duplicate the symptoms in order for them to properly diagnose the effected components.
The death wobble is very different from your issues.
I have some problem in my truck
This is the 3th time I took my Chev 2013 to dealership- it shaking so bad each time
but when they drive the car is not shaking - I don’t know what to do 😢
Take it to a local mechanic one that will take the time to do multiple test drives. Dealership mechanics are typically flat rate only, so they’ll do a single drive for diagnostic and move on to a more straightforward repair to fill their paycheck. Most don’t incentivize diagnostics work over booked time repairs.
@@ThePitStopTirePros Thank you very much I took it to local Mechanic on 1/12/2023- and they fix it.
That vehicle was showing about 10% of Death Wobble. When the steering wheel is making violent 180°+ swings and the front fenders are jumping about 12 inches with the tires leaving the ground, you're experiencing actual death wobble. Many times caused by more worn/damaged parts than a couple tie rod ends, the most violent are typically caused by someone making stupid, stupid alterations and/or having mangled the front end by way of their moronic driving skills. That's why it almost always happens exclusively on Chevies and Jeeps.
I had that 180 degree violent jerking steering wheel happen on my ‘05 Chevy Cavalier years ago.
It was a horrific experience as a new-ish driver.
The car ended up crossing three lanes and a sidewalk before crashing into a pole to stop… and I was only going a few miles an hour after making a left turn. It was like it had a mind of its own!
It was raining. Braking did nothing but leave rubber on the road. The steering wheel just wouldn’t stop jerking back-and-forth!
I held on for dear life!
I’ve always attributed it to a loose steering wheel column. But the car got totaled, so I’ll never know for sure.
Thank God no one died.
Death wobble indeed!
My 04 Tahoe started doing this just a few days ago....I hit a bump in the road and it started shaking like crazy.. scared the crap out of me... It shakes a lil while driving at about 35 to 55 miles an hour.. but if I hit s bump or imperfections in the road.. it goes crazy.... Now I know what to do.. fulll steering linkage and suspension replacement...
2004, 2500 / 4 wheel drive , Mine is in the rear end and started after using the 4 wheel drive 4 LOW in mud, it bounces like a basketball at 45 mph now in rear of the truck using the 2 wheel drive on first drive after the mud and going back to 2 wheel drive ? There is no mud on the tires just the mud stain !
@@MrSymbolic7 Impossible to diagnose remotely, but would suggest looking at any rear track bar or radius arms in the rear end. Check and make sure no bushings were damaged from the off-roading. Bouncing will occur from connections points that allow movement. The bouncing is in those connection points moving from end to end created by a cavitation once you’ve hit 45mph. Could also be damage to propeller shaft with either damaged to the shaft, any balance weights or the ujoints as well.
How many times did you hear "death wobble or Chevy shake" ?
This happened with my 2000 Sierra. Scary sh%t!
Hi, did you ever find out the problem?
@@waltherflores2048 I was driving with no power steering for a while and ruined the power steering pump. Replaced the pump and no more death wobble.
Did all that but I figured it out 15 for 15 in duck and it cost nothing and took me 5 min
*Had 2005 F250 was worst! Back to Chevy never experienced this thank god*
After having my tires balanced and rebalanced, the front end aligned by 3 different shops along with the chevy dealer replacing the outer tie rods, pitman arm and idler and I added a front stabilizer shock I finally got to the problem. I replaced the brake calipers, pads, and rotors. No more pulling to the right and no wobble what so ever. FYI PS I also revamped the stupid vibration isolator on the center link.
You can find our video on shaking under braking here: ua-cam.com/video/H8EfwR88AtM/v-deo.html
I have a Jeep, I have never had this happen, but have been warned.
I have had this issue in a number of service vehicles I drove replaced many of these parts on them to all of these parts on my personal chevy express service van which at that point I gave up and found new tires and tire rotation fixes it temporarily haha (not safe) still. Anyway few days ago I rotated the tires still having all fairly new everything in this video on the vehicle still, when rotating due to the shake coming back I decided to grease up my ball joints upper and lower since they looked about due, upon getting back to the road and hitting 40mph the shake started and worse then it's ever been which has drawn me to the conclusion of the upper and lower ball joints especially after going back and putting tires back to same sides as they were prior to rotating where it barely had a shake. Sounds extremely strange to me that something controlling the chamber would be the cause but it's the only part besides the control arm that hasn't been replaced and I'm gonna try just that this evening hopefully, the upper and lower ball joints. Great video definitely not disagreeing because this video does cover the issues most cases, but ive had a few with the infamous death wobble where these components didn't work except for the first 15 to 20 miles after replacing then right back to shaking your tail feather lmao. Have you all ever had ball joints be the cause is what this paragraph was originally getting at?
The only other time we’ve seen an at speed wobble that was hard to trace was an express van that had lower control arm bushings that were intact but worn out causing the control arms to excessively bounce laterally.
@@ThePitStopTirePros cool, I will check that before doing ball joints, I thought that but they did look to be in good shape as far as I could see but yeah don't get a good view on them anyway so it's hard to tell. Thanks for the extra help. Happy I came across your video its definitely helpful on this annoying problem.
Wow, worn parts leading to death wobble, who would have thought, apparently these guys have never had a Ram or Ford death wobble? 😂😂 Dont see it much in our mixed fleet on Chevys, but the Fords and Ram trucks have constant deathwobble with minimal parts wear.
yeah, i never heard of the chevy shake, had a dodge with the death wobble will never buy another dodge, chevy all the way
Yes, This is primarily a Ford / Chrysler problem. With new vehicles
Our shake only happens when going 50+ going down hill and we're trying to break and it shakes pretty hard. But damn not that hard like on your video. But otherwise on the flats when breaking it never shakes. Only when going downhill
That’s sounds more like warped rotors, have a mechanic do a run out test with a micrometer. Even 2-3 thousandths can manifest shaking due to warpage. Happens here in the mountains all the time.
Thanks for the info bro! I would've ended up changing out the drive axle on accident.
@@anamositykilla2190 finding a local mechanic you can trust is important to keeping your vehicle safe.
Yes the death wobble is right
Even Independent Front Suspensions have the wobble of doom.
Damn my work van is doing this when i try to stop
On my 2009 Yukon 2500 XL with a 4" lift I replaced the tires first because of the wobble. Then I replaced all the shocks. Then had the tie rod ends changed. Upper and lower a-arms changed then the pitman and idler arms. I adjusted the torsion bars and had the alignment redone. Tires balancing done many many times. It still wobbles excessively at 65-75. Even hitting bumps in the road cause shaking, but you don't really see it in the steering wheel. You feel it in the floor and the seats. I am stumped, what else could it be? Also replaced the bump stops and sway bar link bushings. What is left besides a gas can and a match? Help
I didn’t see steering stabilizer in the replacement parts. I would also wonder the speed of the vibration. Speed of the tires (slow) or speed of the driveshaft (fast). Still could have more parts to consider. Would recommend a specialist with drivetrain and suspension. Could have a driveshaft out of balance, rack bushings, ujoints hanging up. Again would depend on the location of the vibration, and the speed of it.
See my problem is it's not the steering wheel. My whole dashboard bounces up and down at 45 mph
Oops I tried all that then I figured it out. Took me 5 min and Cost nothing and I've done 15 Silverado 00 and I've fixed 15 of them
Never heard of death wobble on a GM vehicle.
Always hear about the Ford death wobble.
We seen them on GM, Ford and Jeeps. Typically Jeep’s in most cases especially since we are deep in the Rockies.
@@ThePitStopTirePros haha. It should be called the American shake then
The concern is death wobble is happening to new Ford trucks. Not old worn down vehicles that need new bushings
Reduce speed.
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Gear box is a non Likely issue. Same with the front steering stabilizer. Tie rods should be replaced. Tires rebalamced. And alignment
Happens on my GMC Envoy. I just don't bother with it. The death wobble don't bother me.
Yep death wobble
So yall just replaced the whole damn system 😂. got it.
Chevy shudder is from the transmissions.
steering stabilizer causing death wobble on a jeep is false. its not a fix either
Mine wobbled bad then I smelled burned tranny fluid
What was it?
Did you ever fix the problem?
Dodge death wobble. Jeep death wobble. Chevy shake. Maybe it's time the auto manufacturers go back to putting grease zerks on the steering and suspension joints so we can maintain our vehicles properly. But no, the manufacturers can save $10 per vehicle without the zerks.
the play in the joints... well that is wrong. Take a big pair of water pump plyers and to push down on the ball joint, if it moves up and down it is bad. Not the way he explained it.. ball joints are suppose to move, just like your knees and elbows. And he forgot the most crucial part. the mounted arm on the passenger side of the frame. That and the pitman arm will cause the shake...and a blown out shock.
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This is not chevy shake. This is a bad front end.
The death wobble is not the same as a vehicle with worn parts or bad breaks. Its a totally different issue. All 5 of my brand new 4 wheel drive trucks did it from day 1. The only solution is to reduce speed. Period. By slowing down your keeping the front tires in better contact with the rd. If you get the wobble at 60 or above dont drive 60. Its a design issue with vehicles with a straight axle. Its very scary when it happens. Slow down. People are getting killed because of this. And they know it. In a second you can lose total control. Slow down.