For anyone considering the DCT I have almost 24k miles on my Elantra N DCT and I’ve had 0 issues. I drive a lot for my job and can confirm that the seats do get a bit uncomfortable but overall I absolutely love it. It also gets solid MPG
I mean... I seriously wonder if the owners let the car be properly broken in or not. I've got Kia Stinger GT w/ GT2 package in my house and never had any reliability issues. Made sure to do proper breaking in w/ the oil change.
Like you said.... dollar amount per performance for this vehicle is incredible! Love mine in DCT! Got it for 36k good thing. Car is so much fun to drive. Just add the Takeda 3" non resonated mid pipe exhaust system and N mode sounds amazing! Like 3X better!! TRUST ME! Look into it, got mine for $430. 😎
The vehicle does not have adaptive cruise, it's just lane centering, has normal cruise control but has AEB(automatic emergency braking) so don't rely on it to stop for you every time, it's used to diminish impact.
People love the Civic for it's FWD attitude. Elantra N would be similar, if it had a lighter front-end. Granted, current setup makes it very competent track tool, but a lighter approach would make it a more endearing daily... Aluminum roof and hood would have been a cool feature.
if you really want some reduction, you could look into a lighter/weight Brake kit, rotors. as well as aftermarket carbon hood/roof/trunk etc. IJS, for its price of entry its offering a lot of performance/power/options. Including the suspension/steering/profile tuning. That imo also make cars more "endearing" dailys vs others that dont offer these features with the aspect of this power/headroom in play as well as the ceiling. Other than that, the solid axle/cvboot/bearing assembly is also a hard barrier to a conceptual "endearing" daily as well. If anything its a reason to own or not own the elantra N. BC any aggressive weight/breaking changes in corner/downihll grade and potholes etc...can easily affect transmission/engine/hub over the lifetime of ownership...and the implications seem costly; otherwise if babied on the highways/bad roads and tracked properly...those axles and this build/tune/price offer a lot to the end user on any given day/canyon.
@@anhiirr We're got the worst construction/road crew (Toronto), Already blew out my 4S's from potholes and have been riding on 18' winters. Also curbed it bad several time (get distracted a lot). Probably some expensive wheel bearing repair in my future, but seems to be holding up well with all the extreme abuse. After putting on 25k on my EN, I agree that a lighter approach isn't worth it for this chassis. My old Civic would get extremely good when I took weight off it, but doesn't seem to be the case with EN.
EN will be a lot more fun out of the box and faster stock almost everywhere. Decent to mod as well. The WRX might be better for big turbo applications but we'll have to wait until you can reliably tune them.
considering the CTR and Integra type-s is going for 70k...and hyndai is trying to offer the N at half that price. The only real/main concern is how they bridge this gap in this price segment. Their solid axle/cv boot/bearing hub assembly. IMO its what offers the "lack of understeer" most ppl would connotate with FF. Which honda worked hard and spent hard to engineer the characteristics out of the CTR. Only any hard shifting/launching seen in POOR DCT owners that didnt swap their engine mounts...lead immediately to transmission issues/failures etc. Any hard downhill cornering/breaking and the occasional pothole/change in traction also adds stress to the engine/these parts inherently. IDK how costly these aspects add up to in the long run. As so cal can have some harsh road conditions/highways. Luckily you can tune/change driving profiles to add some ideal suspension/activity for those scenarios/commutes. Otherwise for the $$$ it definitely offers a lot...including the implications of performance/steering inclination etc with those axle/assemblies. The driving aids like lane centering etc also help with insurance rates which can help with cost to own in the long run as well. IMO ppl with DCT issues probably launched theirs like crazy and "hot rodded theirs" prior to a proper break in/driving/oil change. Either way the dif winds up having its "time out" when you hit a pothole mid corner/down hill etc and so on...and it has to earn its weight in gold by not DYING or killing the trans with every bounce/shift in weight...over the lifetime of this car. It greys the area of pushing the limit, where other cars with more mechanical aspects(dif) could potentially have better implications to use/abuse ratios. PPL ought to look into better mounts for their DCT sake. In most cases if you wind up hitting a pot hole/change in front wheel/grade/grip under high breaking/acceleration scenarios its going to put STRESS on your transmission or hope your "ediff" driver aid/computer system kicks in to save your drivetrain....at the expense of "performance" or again catering to the "absolute limit". Which really puts this car in a very "niche" category of use/ownership/abuse ceiling. In rural areas or places with more quality roads or track access this car could be a DREAM....in metro areas with many bad roads...and constant right turns etc....youre already looking at changes to bushing/tire/suspension/axle/boot/hub performance/wear over the lifetime of ownership on a per oil change basis, just a common aspect of these circumstances. Same to shifting/profile/DCT health in these road conditions.
I can't wait to get a kit of my own been looking at your stuff for a while I just can't wait for a good sale 😅 do you guys have a showroom in the LA location I would love to drive down and see.
I love everything about the elantra N except the way it looks lol especially all those angles but definitely best bang for the buck when you're on a Budget.
3:26 if you still have to push the gas I don't think thats adaptive cruise. Adaptive cruise means it will activate normal cruise control but keep you a certain distance away from the car in front of you
Hey hows the storm comfort springs on the elantra. Ive been trying to find reviews of em but havent really seen any of. Was thinking getting one for my KONA N.
The N interior is so clean and nice. Those seats are 🔥 but I just can’t get behind the exterior. Not my type of look. Also recommendation for a new shop car. Get the new Integra Type S. I’m sure a AFD Type S would look sick.
The seats are cool looking and work in handling, but they suck for distance driving. My 2020 VN has the old seats and they are obviously significantly more comfortable.
The current meta is to use meth injection. There isn't much need for E yet since you can just run meth instead. I think a UK garage has a 500+ whp one that runs E but i'd have to double check if they are running E or not
@@mogulme6190lol believe what you want bud I talked to the tuners I’m tuned rn too, meth is the only applicable option to gain consistent gains rn. Until someone unlocks a Ethanol map don’t say i didn’t tell you so
I have test driven 3 of these now. All automatic, they seemed pretty good. Yesterday I did an extended test drive putting 40 miles on one by myself though.. pretty good! Just too expensive, as with most vehicles. :(
@@JohnLee-db9zt not just that theyre all becoming cross over/suv "popularity" is whats being made/sold. On top of that trucks are going up in price....and you get so much "LESS" of options/car for less money as well these days. most cars for 30k or less...are merely daily/eco/commuters and will retain their value that way/fall apart by year 10-15. While the electronics will be older...as proven oil/viscosity has to change and these "newer" cars dont TAKE to such aspects as older/commuter cars do/did. with these inherent aspects of long/term/high mileage ownership...not to mention transmissions.
there is a 600 mile brake in period. which i followed. i’m 9100 miles in and no issues. i’ve done res delete and bov and driven the piss out of it and it’s fine
Well for 1 the elantra makes more power than both the cars you mentioned. And 2 it doesn’t get marked up as bad as the GR86 and subaru and 3 it doesn’t have RTV issues.
@T M stock for stock ready to purchase, I can see why that would not be a bad way to go... I was a bit curious what AFDs thoughts were after modifications. Thanks for the feedback!
Elantra N gives best bang for buck. The 86 is overpriced af for what it is. And WRX (plus the type R) is the closest competitor in its price range but the WRX has nothing on the driving dynamics to the N. Power wise the N is the most powerful once you buy it.. tuning wise the WRX wins esp this new WRX that car wakes up once it’s tuned. The 86 has the roots of Subaru engine problems so reliability is low, tuning capability is there but you don’t know what you’re gonna get out of that car. Comfort wise the WRX and 86 may slightly edge out the N but the N is a super capable car to daily, put it on the lowest suspension setting and you’ll be fine. Driving experience N wins no argument. The car is FWD but it feels like AWD.
@@anthonyscott5484 i agree with all of these points! Wrx is better for tuning so in states that are strict with emissions the elantra n is better but if you live in an area without issues with laws than the wrx is better. Wish more companies offered tunes for the n its a shame.
@Anthony Scott VALID! I grabbed a 23 WRX personally just because of the AWD. I'm in the mountains so with snow FWD just really wasn't gonna cut it for me. I will say though, you have changed my views on the Elantra N. I couldn't get past the Hyundai name before tbh... I was always taught they were garbage and transmissions are far from reliable.maybe not so bad after all. Thanks!
@@robertf9521he’s just hating on the fact that the 2013 elantras had an engine recall. This elantra N has a completely different engine from that generation ignore the troll.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 so does the type r with the exploding transmission? And the mustang with the automatic transmission issues? The mopar with constant oil burning? Corvette still bending its push rods? The list goes on. You want reliable buy a EV… I worked at multiple hyundai dealerships and not had one Elantra N come in.
I'm at 72,000 miles on a Veloster N and the only issue so far has been the HPFP having a pressure spike that led to a limp mode. Warranty immediately replaced that and it's been flawless. I change the oil at 4k loosely, treat it very kindly before it gets to operating temp, then absolutely lambast the fucker once it's hot. I don't baby the engine at all. MPGs havent dropped (intake valves likely decently clean still). I've heard about some others having issues with electronics, but I'm a case of flawless activity. I've seen more problems in my parent's BMWs, their Raptor, friends' subarus, friends' GLI/GTIs, and even in my own old Fiesta ST.
But you will refuse to believe the EN is the more fun car to drive, not just talking power. The elantra will beat the WRX anyday on a track or curvy road. I can care less about straight line racing. (Whoopty doo) who cares.
i will only trust reviews from people who DRIVE the car! and i dont mean to and from work and daily commute and how many MPG etc that a buncha bullshit anyways..where is the reviews from those who DRIVE the car and beat the living shit out of it.
For anyone considering the DCT I have almost 24k miles on my Elantra N DCT and I’ve had 0 issues. I drive a lot for my job and can confirm that the seats do get a bit uncomfortable but overall I absolutely love it. It also gets solid MPG
I mean... I seriously wonder if the owners let the car be properly broken in or not. I've got Kia Stinger GT w/ GT2 package in my house and never had any reliability issues. Made sure to do proper breaking in w/ the oil change.
DCT is boring man you might as well get a Corolla
@@MrSnuffinum yeah maybe in THAT car it is... but in the Elantra N it's great and fast AF!
the MPG is amazing!!
@@MrSnuffinum This car is better than a Type R in most ways... let alone a Corolla.
This is the nicest N I’ve seen. So simple and clean.
Like you said.... dollar amount per performance for this vehicle is incredible! Love mine in DCT! Got it for 36k good thing. Car is so much fun to drive.
Just add the Takeda 3" non resonated mid pipe exhaust system and N mode sounds amazing! Like 3X better!! TRUST ME! Look into it, got mine for $430. 😎
You got yours for 36k out the door? In what state if you mind me asking. Thanks
Could you link to exhaust🙏🏽
@@thegreat1548 I'm in east NY
@@MrAdams-zg6gv I'm from east NY
That exhaust and their air intake combined is a claimed increase of just under 30 hp ! ✌️
Front bumper paint matched overlays would go crazy
A spoiler option for this car would be sick!
The vehicle does not have adaptive cruise, it's just lane centering, has normal cruise control but has AEB(automatic emergency braking) so don't rely on it to stop for you every time, it's used to diminish impact.
Great video 🤘 I gotta feel the elantra in the canyons now
personally i think a nice lip spoiler like the one on the elantra N line would look really clean on this build
Thank you!!!
People love the Civic for it's FWD attitude. Elantra N would be similar, if it had a lighter front-end. Granted, current setup makes it very competent track tool, but a lighter approach would make it a more endearing daily... Aluminum roof and hood would have been a cool feature.
if you really want some reduction, you could look into a lighter/weight Brake kit, rotors. as well as aftermarket carbon hood/roof/trunk etc. IJS, for its price of entry its offering a lot of performance/power/options. Including the suspension/steering/profile tuning. That imo also make cars more "endearing" dailys vs others that dont offer these features with the aspect of this power/headroom in play as well as the ceiling. Other than that, the solid axle/cvboot/bearing assembly is also a hard barrier to a conceptual "endearing" daily as well. If anything its a reason to own or not own the elantra N. BC any aggressive weight/breaking changes in corner/downihll grade and potholes etc...can easily affect transmission/engine/hub over the lifetime of ownership...and the implications seem costly; otherwise if babied on the highways/bad roads and tracked properly...those axles and this build/tune/price offer a lot to the end user on any given day/canyon.
@@anhiirr We're got the worst construction/road crew (Toronto), Already blew out my 4S's from potholes and have been riding on 18' winters. Also curbed it bad several time (get distracted a lot). Probably some expensive wheel bearing repair in my future, but seems to be holding up well with all the extreme abuse. After putting on 25k on my EN, I agree that a lighter approach isn't worth it for this chassis. My old Civic would get extremely good when I took weight off it, but doesn't seem to be the case with EN.
Based on Nurburgring and other track in-car commentaries, this car feels AWD than FWD
I can’t make up mind for my next future ride, vb or elantra N. wish I could do both! Love the channel!
VB.
EN will be a lot more fun out of the box and faster stock almost everywhere. Decent to mod as well. The WRX might be better for big turbo applications but we'll have to wait until you can reliably tune them.
The wheels you got, they're the ones I want for my EN!! They look so dope, but I want mine in matte grey. Great content!
I have 35k miles on mine and I’ve have 0 issues and I drive my car super hard
it doesn't have adaptive cruise... that button is for lane keeping/ assist
considering the CTR and Integra type-s is going for 70k...and hyndai is trying to offer the N at half that price. The only real/main concern is how they bridge this gap in this price segment. Their solid axle/cv boot/bearing hub assembly. IMO its what offers the "lack of understeer" most ppl would connotate with FF. Which honda worked hard and spent hard to engineer the characteristics out of the CTR. Only any hard shifting/launching seen in POOR DCT owners that didnt swap their engine mounts...lead immediately to transmission issues/failures etc. Any hard downhill cornering/breaking and the occasional pothole/change in traction also adds stress to the engine/these parts inherently. IDK how costly these aspects add up to in the long run. As so cal can have some harsh road conditions/highways. Luckily you can tune/change driving profiles to add some ideal suspension/activity for those scenarios/commutes. Otherwise for the $$$ it definitely offers a lot...including the implications of performance/steering inclination etc with those axle/assemblies. The driving aids like lane centering etc also help with insurance rates which can help with cost to own in the long run as well. IMO ppl with DCT issues probably launched theirs like crazy and "hot rodded theirs" prior to a proper break in/driving/oil change. Either way the dif winds up having its "time out" when you hit a pothole mid corner/down hill etc and so on...and it has to earn its weight in gold by not DYING or killing the trans with every bounce/shift in weight...over the lifetime of this car. It greys the area of pushing the limit, where other cars with more mechanical aspects(dif) could potentially have better implications to use/abuse ratios. PPL ought to look into better mounts for their DCT sake. In most cases if you wind up hitting a pot hole/change in front wheel/grade/grip under high breaking/acceleration scenarios its going to put STRESS on your transmission or hope your "ediff" driver aid/computer system kicks in to save your drivetrain....at the expense of "performance" or again catering to the "absolute limit". Which really puts this car in a very "niche" category of use/ownership/abuse ceiling. In rural areas or places with more quality roads or track access this car could be a DREAM....in metro areas with many bad roads...and constant right turns etc....youre already looking at changes to bushing/tire/suspension/axle/boot/hub performance/wear over the lifetime of ownership on a per oil change basis, just a common aspect of these circumstances. Same to shifting/profile/DCT health in these road conditions.
What is your opinion on the 2024 Elantra N?
I can't wait to get a kit of my own been looking at your stuff for a while I just can't wait for a good sale 😅 do you guys have a showroom in the LA location I would love to drive down and see.
I love everything about the elantra N except the way it looks lol especially all those angles but definitely best bang for the buck when you're on a Budget.
I have the Elantra 2018 sport, and it’s as fun as this car, when engine goes out will be doing a swap to this lol.
I wish they still made that one as well
it had a nice body on it, just needed more power and little updates.@@repaleonhalo9754
I bet the majority guys with engine issues had their ECUs tuned lol
I think the 2 door N they are working on will be for 2024
my wing just shipped so hype to smack it on my car 🔥🔥🔥
The windshields suck and chip, crack, and scratch severely at the tiniest rocks. Paint is too thin and chips easily. I love it outside of that.
3:26 if you still have to push the gas I don't think thats adaptive cruise. Adaptive cruise means it will activate normal cruise control but keep you a certain distance away from the car in front of you
The auto doesn’t have adaptive, it’s just a steering assist that’s better than a lane keep assist that would bounce you between the lines
I have an elentra n on order 😬
They had a 2 door version. It eas the Veloser N. Lighter and shorter wheel base.
Then Hyundai cancelled it 😔
They need to bring the i30 to the states. That is by far my favorite model of all the n cars
@@Mr.Thermistor7228 no they need to put this engine in a small rwd coupe with the dct and 6spd.
You should update your infotainment system ! I did it to mine and it looks awesome !
Update? Software or hardware wise?
Hey hows the storm comfort springs on the elantra. Ive been trying to find reviews of em but havent really seen any of. Was thinking getting one for my KONA N.
More elantra N videos plz🔥🔥🔥🔥
More elentra content please ❤
More coming!
Thinking of getting one
The N interior is so clean and nice. Those seats are 🔥 but I just can’t get behind the exterior. Not my type of look.
Also recommendation for a new shop car. Get the new Integra Type S. I’m sure a AFD Type S would look sick.
The seats are cool looking and work in handling, but they suck for distance driving. My 2020 VN has the old seats and they are obviously significantly more comfortable.
What’s up with that tire pressure light? Aftermarket wheels don’t support the sensors?
They probably didn't add sensors
If possible, would you share where you bought the wheels?
Great video, how is it comparing to the VB?
Interior is 100X better but overall personally we like the awd but the N is a straight up beast!
What downpipe? Looking to order one here soon
how do you guys have the down pipe if sxth element doent wanna ship it to california . :(
Why is no one doing E30/85 on these? I wonder what apples to apples would be vs a VB WRX on E30/85.
The power is negligible to nothing from people who have done it with tunes and mods
@@anthonyscott5484 ummm I don’t believe that at all.
The current meta is to use meth injection. There isn't much need for E yet since you can just run meth instead. I think a UK garage has a 500+ whp one that runs E but i'd have to double check if they are running E or not
@@mogulme6190lol believe what you want bud I talked to the tuners I’m tuned rn too, meth is the only applicable option to gain consistent gains rn. Until someone unlocks a Ethanol map don’t say i didn’t tell you so
I have test driven 3 of these now. All automatic, they seemed pretty good. Yesterday I did an extended test drive putting 40 miles on one by myself though.. pretty good! Just too expensive, as with most vehicles. :(
Found the test pilot
Expensive it’s 35k
If you think $35k is expensive, then you need a new job. The average cost of a new vehicle is $45k.
@@JohnLee-db9zt not just that theyre all becoming cross over/suv "popularity" is whats being made/sold. On top of that trucks are going up in price....and you get so much "LESS" of options/car for less money as well these days. most cars for 30k or less...are merely daily/eco/commuters and will retain their value that way/fall apart by year 10-15. While the electronics will be older...as proven oil/viscosity has to change and these "newer" cars dont TAKE to such aspects as older/commuter cars do/did. with these inherent aspects of long/term/high mileage ownership...not to mention transmissions.
@@JohnLee-db9ztmaybe the dude doesn’t like debt 💀 everyone can get one. Not every one can afford it.
I'm telling you guys... make some rear cupholders.
Who hangs there?
@@robertf9521 your < insert >
@@robertf9521 its crazy man but sometimes I put family and friends in the back and they get thirsty lol
Still waiting on my color matched fenders I ordered in February
Where did you order them from?
@@boogiedownkid5465 aeroflow
@@boogiedownkid5465 areoflow
@@SilverAndBlackZachthanks!
Love the Elantra N content 🙏
I heard they fall apart at 40k
you heard wrong
Nahhh I heard that tooo I wanted this but nvm that’s a deal sealer
Needs an awd option
You said 1,800 hard drive miles so far, when talking about the reliability…is there no recommended break-in period on these? 🤔
To be honest , we did not do a break in period but the car is doing amazing like day 1!
there is a 600 mile brake in period. which i followed. i’m 9100 miles in and no issues. i’ve done res delete and bov and driven the piss out of it and it’s fine
wait so then is N mode illegal since its too loud? tf
Is that color available from the dealerships or is that custom?
factory
Remove the sticker from the seat light N
Has anybody seen an Elantra N in the SF Bay Area? I've not...
When will the Elantra n window visors be available??
We are working on it!
Sadly in the DCT Automatic it does not have the adaptive cruise control. It just has the steering then non smart cruise control.
Yup, it's the regular cruise control with avoidance collision detection...still unsure if it'll brake for you though
Put a hks bov
Clean ass Elantra n bro
Im wondering if i shouldve bought an elantra n instead of a wrx 😅
Yes. The new WRX admittedly is a tuneable beast but the EN is just the whole package a fun engaging experience for a budget
Nah
Not AWD, not a boxer
Elantra is a fancy basic car
40K miles KONA N no issues
Aku sampek susah turu karena kui di pekso juga eong rak seneng kok di paksa salah tapi ngeyel nek aku kelaugane mending deknen sopo
The N...The GR86...The WRX.... which is 1st. 2nd. 3rd?? Why does that pick win first place?? Could make for decent content 🤔...
Well for 1 the elantra makes more power than both the cars you mentioned. And 2 it doesn’t get marked up as bad as the GR86 and subaru and 3 it doesn’t have RTV issues.
@T M stock for stock ready to purchase, I can see why that would not be a bad way to go... I was a bit curious what AFDs thoughts were after modifications. Thanks for the feedback!
Elantra N gives best bang for buck. The 86 is overpriced af for what it is. And WRX (plus the type R) is the closest competitor in its price range but the WRX has nothing on the driving dynamics to the N. Power wise the N is the most powerful once you buy it.. tuning wise the WRX wins esp this new WRX that car wakes up once it’s tuned. The 86 has the roots of Subaru engine problems so reliability is low, tuning capability is there but you don’t know what you’re gonna get out of that car. Comfort wise the WRX and 86 may slightly edge out the N but the N is a super capable car to daily, put it on the lowest suspension setting and you’ll be fine. Driving experience N wins no argument. The car is FWD but it feels like AWD.
@@anthonyscott5484 i agree with all of these points! Wrx is better for tuning so in states that are strict with emissions the elantra n is better but if you live in an area without issues with laws than the wrx is better. Wish more companies offered tunes for the n its a shame.
@Anthony Scott VALID! I grabbed a 23 WRX personally just because of the AWD. I'm in the mountains so with snow FWD just really wasn't gonna cut it for me. I will say though, you have changed my views on the Elantra N. I couldn't get past the Hyundai name before tbh... I was always taught they were garbage and transmissions are far from reliable.maybe not so bad after all. Thanks!
Bro i lowered my i20
I wonder if they cleaned the shavings out when they machined the engine
???
@@robertf9521he’s just hating on the fact that the 2013 elantras had an engine recall. This elantra N has a completely different engine from that generation ignore the troll.
@@MJT-DA yet these cars still have problems lmao
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 so does the type r with the exploding transmission? And the mustang with the automatic transmission issues? The mopar with constant oil burning? Corvette still bending its push rods? The list goes on. You want reliable buy a EV… I worked at multiple hyundai dealerships and not had one Elantra N come in.
Roooooom pingsond roooooooooookoom😊😊
RELIABILITY AND DURABILITY IS WHAT IM INTERESTED IN ABOUT THESE JUNKS 😂
I'm at 72,000 miles on a Veloster N and the only issue so far has been the HPFP having a pressure spike that led to a limp mode. Warranty immediately replaced that and it's been flawless. I change the oil at 4k loosely, treat it very kindly before it gets to operating temp, then absolutely lambast the fucker once it's hot. I don't baby the engine at all. MPGs havent dropped (intake valves likely decently clean still).
I've heard about some others having issues with electronics, but I'm a case of flawless activity. I've seen more problems in my parent's BMWs, their Raptor, friends' subarus, friends' GLI/GTIs, and even in my own old Fiesta ST.
Elantra no, WRX yes.
Elantra a 31-33 thousand dollar car tho wrx way more pricey
Elantra is faster than the wrx and makes more horsepower 😂
But you will refuse to believe the EN is the more fun car to drive, not just talking power. The elantra will beat the WRX anyday on a track or curvy road. I can care less about straight line racing. (Whoopty doo) who cares.
@@MJT-DA if you can actually drive manual why waste your money on a hyundai?
Subaru gives you AWD and a unique boxer engine
@@RomansFree My 2014 genesis coupe is a manual.. nice try troll..
i will only trust reviews from people who DRIVE the car! and i dont mean to and from work and daily commute and how many MPG etc that a buncha bullshit anyways..where is the reviews from those who DRIVE the car and beat the living shit out of it.