*Frequently asked questions* Q: Has this been patched? A: Video is performed on current patch (1.06) and every step included is possible on every patch, version and platform that has the Gauntlets/Reflections. As a help in the future, Fromsoft only did 1 true patch that addressed glitches (1.03). That update was in April 2019, a few weeks after release. Ever since, they have not patched anything of note. I might make a video on patch differences in the future. If you're up for a read then you can check out this article I wrote on speedrun.com about some of the differences: www.speedrun.com/sekiro/guides/om9zs Q: How do you do the Bull Skip jump (at 1:17)? A: It may take a bit of practice, it is not easy, but you can find a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html Q: Can you get infinite Gourd Seeds? A: Yes, you can also get infinite (99 max technically, I guess) Gourd Seeds, and in the same fashion as the Beads you are only able to upgrade the Gourd to 10 charges, regardless of how many Seeds you have. Q: Can you use the Shinobi Shortcut in Kuro's Room to get to Dilapidated Temple? A: No, you cannot. All entrance ways to Kuro's Room are blocked. However, even if using cheats to teleport inside it is still not possible, due to the shortcut being completely disabled (no prompt). Q: Can you use Gyoubu's Reflection? A: No, you cannot. Gyoubu's fight is set during morning time and Demon of Hatred is during the 2nd Invasion. The bridge connecting Ashina Castle to Ashina Outskirts is broken at all stages except specifically during the 2nd Invasion world state, so you can't make it back to dilapidated temple when in Gyoubu's Reflection. Although, I wouldn't rule out someone discovering a new glitch that could make it work somehow, perhaps using airswimming, grapple glitches or other black magic Q: Who found this glitch? A: I first saw it from the speedrunner Sutemou in 2021, but I don't know if he's the original finder.
Finally something useful in reflections. I’ve made it to monk in reflections, and duo ape and schichmen show up at the same time if you run to them with them alive I guess
Was it required for you to have left them alive for them to show up?`In my case, Shigekichi had already been killed on the save file, but somehow was still there during the reflection.
i think they did need to still be alive, but wasnt sure. I was looking into like a skip for 1.06 to use guantlets to cut some corners. so activated gyoubu and ran to monk or wherever. ultimately it didnt produce, but the next loaded maps started to have item pickups (i think) and enemies. but needed some weird routing to get around random shit. Im guessing air swim in guantlet land could be cool. IE running from gyoubu to the castle spots to swim, might work. During the whole can i make 1.06 faster than 1.02 in no airswim.. the answer is still easily no ROFL. maybe something for all achievements
Very in-depth explanation, and you also showed at the end if you can get more than 10 prayer necklaces. I was about to ask that, but you answered it for me. Thanks
In case you didn't find it, there's a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html if you're still having issues with it. It may help. But yea no problem.
I can see how this could be a thing for certain speedruns indeed. Personally, I have collected all 40 beads so many times now that I have all locations memorized. I expected your HP to become infinite too but it makes more sense that it didn't.
Thanks for showing this, the only achievement I have left is the one for upgrading my health to max. I will use this method to get the achievement faster.
@@uncleol I think you get somewhere around 30ish prayer beads from bosses/minibosses. Some drop 2 beads and others drop none. Headless and Shichimen Warrior for example do not drop any beads, where as Headless Ape (double ape encounter) drops 2 beads. There are also a few that you find out in the map. For example at the bottom of the river in Mibu Village there's a chest with one. There's also one in the house right before corrupted monk. Fextralife wiki has a list: sekiroshadowsdietwice.wiki.fextralife.com/Prayer+Beads You can also look at a "All Memories and Prayer Beads" speedrun as a reference video for exactly where things are, although that may contain spoilers.
THE SECOND JUMP IS THE REAL FINAL BOSS took me almost 2 hours to get the second jump and when i finally madw it i had no mony and i alomst cried went back after farming it only took me 15 min ;)
Are you talking about 2 prayer beads locked behind Hirata Estate? It can barely be called a sidequest for the first visit, and the second visit is worth the little bit of questing to fight Owl Father. I would recommend actually just grabbing those prayer beads. There's no other beads locked to anything close to a sidequest in the rest of the game to my knowledge.
Still works, but it is difficult. Video is performed on the current patch (1.06), which came out over 3 years ago. This tutorial may help out: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
*For some clarification:* The max Number of Gourd Seeds and Prayer Beads you can get is 99/99, every further purchase would end up on storing the items, which is useless, since the - from “In Storage” will not be overwritten. Same thing for the „Phantom Kunai“ max Number is 1/1 here. „Shuriken Wheel“ and „Gyobu‘s Broken Spear“ instead CAN‘T be acquired over and over again after already getting their copys throughout this glitch because they will no more show up (max Number 1/1 as well). Also If you already acquired the Anti Air Deathblow, it is still shown, but you wont be able to buy a copy (for me it is red, as i already have bought it from „Blackhead Budger“ officialy (i guess)/ i can’t tell how it works with buying it first throughout performing this glitch. As @Holm_GG already mentioned, you are NOT able to surpass the limit of 10 Healing Gourd and or Prayer Necklaces / Vitality 20. In case you are just missing some, go for it, but you CAN’T get unlimited Healing and or Health/Posture, as you might think. BONUS: 1. DON‘T trigger any of the Sculptor’s Idols, as it will lock you into Alt+F4ing the game to continue. In other words you CAN’T do anything upon triggering any of the Idol’s. 2. Just let „Hanbei the Unduying“ watch you robbing the „Offering Box“ over and over again, since a copy of „Hidden Tooth“ can‘t be acquired. Trust me, i tried every thing: If you „Backstab Deathblow“ him he just despawns and you can still interact with the „Offering Box“, which in turn is not possible upon just talking to him and having to defeat him this way. So just let him be, or go kill his twin in the real world with the „Mortal Blade“ to finish the Quest and acquire the „Hidden Tooth“. Just be so kind and fulfill his deepest wish of dying :D I did get all this information by just testing, i’am still not at 99 Prayer Beads and or Gourd Seeds, but as the Phantom Kunai’s „In Storage“ does not change upon getting your 3rd one, i assume its the same for surpassing 99/99. (edit) reached 99/99 Prayer Beads, as i already said nothing changes upon buying a 100th (edit) same for Gourd Seeds, reached 99/99 as well One more thing: As i already defeated all Bosses in the Game, i couldn’t test anything specific to the ones you may or may not reach after the „Bull skip“, except „Shigekichi of the Red Guard“ who appears every time, no matter what. Hope i could help and clear out some questions i asked myself before. If you’re still questioning something or want to get something more clear, just ask ;)
Okay, but what's the point of having 99/99 seeds and beads if you can't use them for anything? I'm really having trouble understanding who or what this could be used for?
No you can’t, as I already mentioned. (BUT it is unique and i safely can say that probably no one else would have that much passion, cuz 99 times DoH and Bull-skip + tracking is a pain in the ass)
This is very cool. I wish you got XP during Reflections, running back and forth to get DoH to drop to its death repeatedly would've been a fantastic way to farm for the all-skills achievement!
Just did it and still works, bull skip took ages though. Also if you get stuck behind the invisible wall after bull skip on the little bridge you can jump into the water and use grapple points to get back up and around it.
@@RikoDikoi just got it 3 mins ago then i got stuck at the little jump before the invisible bridge and fell to my death. had to fight emma and isshin again i hate this game
@@Holm_GG Yeah i wouldnt be surprised if all the other idols along the way would brake like that one. i didnt test if you could even enter the other idols either.
the area on the top of ashina castle also loads every version at the same time lol - the textures get very angry but there are no bosses even tho headless ape and shichimen warrior spawn at the same time in ashina depths
I dont know if this is already mentioned but this does work with gyobu by fighting the samurai guy on the way to the games start location. Two minibosses are actually farmable in gyobu but i havent tested the drops
I would assume that like with Shigekichi they would not drop anytthing (except spirit emblems?) Also, as far as I know, there's no known way to make it back to the General after Ogre from the Gyoubu reflection.
Assuming that you're in the Demon of Hatred reflection (because It does not appear there in the normal world). I haven't encountered this myself, so not sure how much I can help. You might have to try it again.
It works on all versions of the game. There's a massive invisible wall that they added to prevent you from doing it. You have to go around it. There are tutorials for it, just search "bull skip tutorial" on youtube, it's hard to explain in text how to do it.
Wouldnt this work with the horse guy boss? Since its same arena, would be a thought since getting 40 beads super early would be easy but time consuming to get the money
It does not, since it is not possible to make it back to Dilapidated Temple, where the box is located, from Gyoubu's arena. The bridge that you run over while in the Demon of Hatred reflection is broken during daytime. The broken bridge is rebuilt by the interior ministry invaders, who attack after you defeat Divine Dragon. It only works because the demon of hatred reflection takes place during the 2nd invasion world state. Edit: It may be possible that there's some way to get there that we aren't aware of, by using some glitches for example.
I've been studying your video and doing just as you do when it comes to jumping over the tree branch and I truly believe it's patched, I've been at it an hour and no matter where I hit it the second jump doesn't work as if a wall is there.
There is a wall. The developers knew this was gonna be tried so they tried their best to prevent it when initially releasing the game, but no it was never patched and is possible on every version of the game. You will probably need to watch this tutorial to learn it. It took me several hours before I ever hit it even when following a tutorial. ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html When I made the video I thought only speedrunners would watch it, so I didn't include any instructions on how to do stuff that speedrunners already know, sorry haha.
Yea there's a massive invisible wall that they added to prevent you from doing it. You have to go around it. There are tutorials for it, just search "bull skip tutorial" on youtube, it's hard to explain in text how to do it.
Yea, it is disabled. I should have mentioned this in the video. You also cannot even get into Kuro's room, because the windows are all closed and the arena where you fight Genichiro (rooftop) is enclosed with invisible wall as if the fight was active. No idea why it's like that lol
Probably never gonna use this glitch except to fuck around and have fun on already completed save files, but this is still super cool, thanks for sharing!! Now I'm curious where else you can get OOB and find interesting stuff on current patch without cheats, there's probably some interesting stuff
I have a "glitch playlist" on my channel that has over 180 videos of interesting glitches, interactions and general knowledge about the game. It might be for you. A lot of the stuff there is still possible on current patch. FromSoft never really went that hard in patching stuff in Sekiro. Although if you want an overview of what has been patched, I wrote a post about patch differences here: www.speedrun.com/sekiro/guides/om9zs Thanks.
You cannot. You can't even get into Kuro's room, but I also tried teleporting inside with cheats and you are not able to interact with the Shinobi shortcut.
@@Holm_GG I found something as well from your vid, not sure if it works on base game and everytime or not but if you go out of DOH arena to outskirts and commune with the idol which teleports you to the DOH arena, it changes the weather to storm and lightning similar to Isshin's 3rd phase.
since using items in Reflections doesn't actually use them once you leave, would it be possible to use like, 10 heavy money bags to get 5000 gold, leave the memory after buying beads, and then repeating it?
don't let them see this lmao ..they can patch shit like this...dang and I just got my last to ending ...I backed up my save file and all ...need to beat ishin twice and I got a plat
They are focused on many other things like Elden Ring DLC and new projects, if they were worried about it they would have patched the Demon of Hatred skip a long time ago
So the money gets refunded but not the beads, kinda wild. Though having to do the bull skip each time is kind of a bummer. Also kinda unrelated but do you have a reference or any tip on how to consistently do the skip to fountainhead palace, since you showed the debug menu I thought it could be helpfull
The airswim to fountainhead palace? I could try to make a tutorial for it. Personally, I learned it from watching speedruns but it did take a while to understand. I'm no expert on it, but I was thinking to do more tutorials on stuff anyway.
@@Holm_GG Thank you, I can never do it consistently. It's always either the initial jump, navigating to mibu or dying by invis death plane. All the tutorials I could find are either in chinese or without commentary. Also curious if you can air swim to the reeds where you fight Gen iand Ishin after beating emma and the dragon for it to trigger something. When I last played, died to a death plane near there and had to air walk so didn't try again. There's probably nothing there but I'm too curious
@@rokudodamaza Yea, you can swim to the Sword Saint Isshin arena. I am not entirely sure of the pathing you have to take to avoid dying. As far as I remember, you need to swim to a specific spot at the edge of where ashina reservoir and ashina castle meet, and then quit out to deload the death planes that are attached to the ashina castle map, once you load in you should have reservoir loaded and the death barriers from the ashina castle map should be gone. I am not 100% sure this is how it precisely works, but it's something like that. Edit: So yea, technically you can fight and kill both Isshins in one playthrough/NG cycle.
How do i get prayer beads in the box? Would i have to...skip prayer bead bosses or something? I cant kill merchant's (at least some of them) Howd you ge the beads in there? Or are they just there after you get passed demon/end game in reflection? I also ended the training dummy guy..i guess that doesnt matter
Correct, none of that matters. You will be able to do the glitch later on in the game once you have defeated Demon in the normal world. Since it uses the reflection, almost nothing you do in the normal world affects it.
yea, it is not easy. Maybe I can give some tips: Try to do the wall jump before you start losing height, ideally you would jump at the apex of the jump to gain the max height (usually to gain max distance, you would walljump a bit after wolf starts falling, but that won't work here). If you still feel that you are missing height, then try jumping even earlier. Another tip is try moving the camera to look directly into the wall you are walljumping off of, this works really well for me.
@@tragicjon6193 Yea that would make sense. Sen throw acts the same way, where all the money you throw away is restored back to you once you leave the reflection/gauntlet.
Any money you spend buying stuff in the reflection will be given back to you after you return to the normal world. But you do need to have enough money in the first place to afford the items.
Yo dont back out the game it wont save the beads i havent tried using the idol yet but just warning you btw im on NG+3 and i think i have allthe prayer beads but not sure completely
Interesting. But yea the glitch should work on any% NG level (where demon is dead) and even if you already have all 40 prayer beads. The beads in the shop are tied to internal flags that determine whether or not you can buy them. Those flags only apply in the "normal world" and not in the reflection.
I did not test him specifically, but it seems like merchants do not appear during the Demon of Hatred reflection world state. I am gonna try and see, I'll let you know the results.
The beads that you get in the box would be from minibosses you've missed. On the savefile I used, I didn't miss any of those bosses, so they should just be there no matter what when getting there through the reflection. A few times I tried using cheats to speed up the process of getting to the box, for testing purposes, and it sometimes seemed to mess with the contents of the box, or make it not openable. If you want to reproduce it, just follow the video.
@@abunny_5470 It's a bit tricky yea, I've been doing it for a while now in my speedruns. There's a tutorial here that may help you: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
I added in the money with cheats to do the demonstration, I specifically needed a savefile that hadn't acquired the beads that are buyable and that also had enough money.
The box resets when you go to the next New Game cycle, it's designed for letting you acquire items you may have missed on that New Game cycle. Since the glitch requires you to use the reflection of strength it means that you can only do it once demon of hatred has been defeated. However, the box in the reflection is bugged to have full stock. So it doesn't really matter what you have done on your savefile as long as you can enter the demon reflection, you can do it.
Not patched, video is on current patch (1.06). The jump may take a bit of practice, it is not easy, but you can find a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
*Frequently asked questions*
Q: Has this been patched?
A: Video is performed on current patch (1.06) and every step included is possible on every patch, version and platform that has the Gauntlets/Reflections. As a help in the future, Fromsoft only did 1 true patch that addressed glitches (1.03). That update was in April 2019, a few weeks after release. Ever since, they have not patched anything of note. I might make a video on patch differences in the future.
If you're up for a read then you can check out this article I wrote on speedrun.com about some of the differences: www.speedrun.com/sekiro/guides/om9zs
Q: How do you do the Bull Skip jump (at 1:17)?
A: It may take a bit of practice, it is not easy, but you can find a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
Q: Can you get infinite Gourd Seeds?
A: Yes, you can also get infinite (99 max technically, I guess) Gourd Seeds, and in the same fashion as the Beads you are only able to upgrade the Gourd to 10 charges, regardless of how many Seeds you have.
Q: Can you use the Shinobi Shortcut in Kuro's Room to get to Dilapidated Temple?
A: No, you cannot. All entrance ways to Kuro's Room are blocked. However, even if using cheats to teleport inside it is still not possible, due to the shortcut being completely disabled (no prompt).
Q: Can you use Gyoubu's Reflection?
A: No, you cannot. Gyoubu's fight is set during morning time and Demon of Hatred is during the 2nd Invasion. The bridge connecting Ashina Castle to Ashina Outskirts is broken at all stages except specifically during the 2nd Invasion world state, so you can't make it back to dilapidated temple when in Gyoubu's Reflection. Although, I wouldn't rule out someone discovering a new glitch that could make it work somehow, perhaps using airswimming, grapple glitches or other black magic
Q: Who found this glitch?
A: I first saw it from the speedrunner Sutemou in 2021, but I don't know if he's the original finder.
Is there any glitches similar to this that increases your Attack Power?
@@tragicjon6193 not that I know of
@@Holm_GGhow did you get that much money?
@@craftergamer9058 cheated it in, but it is not required. you only need a couple thousand because your money used in the reflection gets refunded
How did u even get that box opened? is it like something late game?@@Holm_GG
Finally something useful in reflections. I’ve made it to monk in reflections, and duo ape and schichmen show up at the same time if you run to them with them alive I guess
Guardian Ape and the dead Carp can also be seen together in the Sunken Valley which caught me off-guard the first time I saw it.
OOOO never tried that .. hilarious @@LadyMoonboy
Was it required for you to have left them alive for them to show up?`In my case, Shigekichi had already been killed on the save file, but somehow was still there during the reflection.
i think they did need to still be alive, but wasnt sure. I was looking into like a skip for 1.06 to use guantlets to cut some corners. so activated gyoubu and ran to monk or wherever. ultimately it didnt produce, but the next loaded maps started to have item pickups (i think) and enemies. but needed some weird routing to get around random shit. Im guessing air swim in guantlet land could be cool. IE running from gyoubu to the castle spots to swim, might work.
During the whole can i make 1.06 faster than 1.02 in no airswim.. the answer is still easily no ROFL. maybe something for all achievements
@@Holm_GGi don’t think they need to be alive in the outside world.. the world in reflections is separate and somewhat “preset”
Did everything, and now i realize im dont have gold
You fucking legend
@@onabs7107 I just tried this 2x just to learn the boss skips, I gotta grind 11.5k gold every time you purchase the prayer beads
😢
cheat engine
@NoCranberry u can
That delay jump to Skip demon of hatred was so smooth.....
Very in-depth explanation, and you also showed at the end if you can get more than 10 prayer necklaces. I was about to ask that, but you answered it for me. Thanks
That jump at raging bull is so hard for me, but still thanks for the help couldnt bother finding the last two
In case you didn't find it, there's a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html if you're still having issues with it. It may help. But yea no problem.
I can see how this could be a thing for certain speedruns indeed. Personally, I have collected all 40 beads so many times now that I have all locations memorized. I expected your HP to become infinite too but it makes more sense that it didn't.
Was missing one and couldnt figure out which. Thankyou for this, managed to do it on Xbox :)
Take care dude
Oh, that is super sick, holy
Was able to get the achievement w this🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank u
Thanks for showing this, the only achievement I have left is the one for upgrading my health to max. I will use this method to get the achievement faster.
or just...find the beads, they're not that hard to find
@@mahirali6113 ik, I've only got 4 left to get, but I can't beat the sichimen warrior and can't be bothered to
@@uncleol None of the Shichimen Warriors drop beads.
@@Holm_GG oh, really? I thought that every mini boss drops beads but I guess not.
@@uncleol I think you get somewhere around 30ish prayer beads from bosses/minibosses. Some drop 2 beads and others drop none. Headless and Shichimen Warrior for example do not drop any beads, where as Headless Ape (double ape encounter) drops 2 beads. There are also a few that you find out in the map. For example at the bottom of the river in Mibu Village there's a chest with one. There's also one in the house right before corrupted monk.
Fextralife wiki has a list: sekiroshadowsdietwice.wiki.fextralife.com/Prayer+Beads
You can also look at a "All Memories and Prayer Beads" speedrun as a reference video for exactly where things are, although that may contain spoilers.
Still works as of 4/30/24. Thank you!
I dont know how to pass the tree :o
It works thank you man. I was missing one prayer bead and i checked all the locations and bosses on ng+ and still couldnt get it
I really love that, your gold comes back when you return ❤ thank you for this video
that second jump is absolutely diabolical bro 😭 shit took me an hour lmao
good job on landing it 👍
THANK YOU, JUST GOT LAST TROPHYS!!!
THE SECOND JUMP IS THE REAL FINAL BOSS
took me almost 2 hours to get the second jump and when i finally madw it i had no mony and i alomst cried
went back after farming it only took me 15 min ;)
I’m on ng+5 and haven’t got the 2 u get form side quests yet so thx!
Are you talking about 2 prayer beads locked behind Hirata Estate? It can barely be called a sidequest for the first visit, and the second visit is worth the little bit of questing to fight Owl Father. I would recommend actually just grabbing those prayer beads. There's no other beads locked to anything close to a sidequest in the rest of the game to my knowledge.
Nice info dude. Thanks!
I think it’s been patched looks like the tree is bigger now
Still works, but it is difficult. Video is performed on the current patch (1.06), which came out over 3 years ago.
This tutorial may help out: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
*For some clarification:*
The max Number of Gourd Seeds and Prayer Beads you can get is 99/99, every further purchase would end up on storing the items, which is useless, since the - from “In Storage” will not be overwritten.
Same thing for the „Phantom Kunai“ max Number is 1/1 here.
„Shuriken Wheel“ and „Gyobu‘s Broken Spear“ instead CAN‘T be acquired over and over again after already getting their copys throughout this glitch because they will no more show up (max Number 1/1 as well).
Also If you already acquired the Anti Air Deathblow, it is still shown, but you wont be able to buy a copy (for me it is red, as i already have bought it from „Blackhead Budger“ officialy (i guess)/ i can’t tell how it works with buying it first throughout performing this glitch.
As @Holm_GG already mentioned, you are NOT able to surpass the limit of 10 Healing Gourd and or Prayer Necklaces / Vitality 20. In case you are just missing some, go for it, but you CAN’T get unlimited Healing and or Health/Posture, as you might think.
BONUS:
1. DON‘T trigger any of the Sculptor’s Idols, as it will lock you into Alt+F4ing the game to continue. In other words you CAN’T do anything upon triggering any of the Idol’s.
2. Just let „Hanbei the Unduying“ watch you robbing the „Offering Box“ over and over again, since a copy of „Hidden Tooth“ can‘t be acquired. Trust me, i tried every thing: If you „Backstab Deathblow“ him he just despawns and you can still interact with the „Offering Box“, which in turn is not possible upon just talking to him and having to defeat him this way. So just let him be, or go kill his twin in the real world with the „Mortal Blade“ to finish the Quest and acquire the „Hidden Tooth“. Just be so kind and fulfill his deepest wish of dying :D
I did get all this information by just testing, i’am still not at 99 Prayer Beads and or Gourd Seeds, but as the Phantom Kunai’s „In Storage“ does not change upon getting your 3rd one, i assume its the same for surpassing 99/99.
(edit) reached 99/99 Prayer Beads, as i already said nothing changes upon buying a 100th
(edit) same for Gourd Seeds, reached 99/99 as well
One more thing: As i already defeated all Bosses in the Game, i couldn’t test anything specific to the ones you may or may not reach after the „Bull skip“, except „Shigekichi of the Red Guard“ who appears every time, no matter what.
Hope i could help and clear out some questions i asked myself before. If you’re still questioning something or want to get something more clear, just ask ;)
Okay, but what's the point of having 99/99 seeds and beads if you can't use them for anything?
I'm really having trouble understanding who or what this could be used for?
So can u use them?
No you can’t, as I already mentioned. (BUT it is unique and i safely can say that probably no one else would have that much passion, cuz 99 times DoH and Bull-skip + tracking is a pain in the ass)
This is very cool. I wish you got XP during Reflections, running back and forth to get DoH to drop to its death repeatedly would've been a fantastic way to farm for the all-skills achievement!
Yea, unfortunately no exploits like that exist yet. Also, really good work on those glitches you can do videos. They are fantastic.
But when you fight the demon of hatred, usually you have all beads
Just did it and still works, bull skip took ages though. Also if you get stuck behind the invisible wall after bull skip on the little bridge you can jump into the water and use grapple points to get back up and around it.
brother how the fuck did u do the bull jump i’ve been trying to do it the past hour and a half
@@mxn11 not sure only got it once and never tried again, maybe try increasing your camera speed for when you turn at the end, I had mine on max
@@RikoDikoi just got it 3 mins ago then i got stuck at the little jump before the invisible bridge and fell to my death. had to fight emma and isshin again i hate this game
That’s crazy, I used to do the boss room escape and bull skip in the reflection, but I had no idea you could take it this far.
btw, entering the idol at the dilapidated temple cause me to get stuck sitting, so i had to alt-f4 the game.
oh wow interesting
@@Holm_GG Yeah i wouldnt be surprised if all the other idols along the way would brake like that one. i didnt test if you could even enter the other idols either.
yea all idols break in the reflection after you gyoubu/doh skip. had to learn that the hard way
I recommend everyone who trying this to use the ‘Shadow Blink/ Shadow Dash’ mod. It only affects mist raven, and it makes exploring way more easier.
that second jump took me hours they better be there
1:17 could be the hardest parkour of the glitch
Yea it is a bit tricky. You can find a tutorial for the jump here, if you still have issues with it: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
Thank you! Still works
the area on the top of ashina castle also loads every version at the same time lol - the textures get very angry but there are no bosses even tho headless ape and shichimen warrior spawn at the same time in ashina depths
"loads every version at the same time" actually seems like it's exactly what's happening, I didn't think about it like that before.
@@Holm_GG also if you do the skip on gyoubus memory and go to the bridge where shigekichi is, the actual bridge is like a mile tk the side lol
@@angelbasilica oh lol that's funny, I didn't explore much in that direction
DO NOT TALK TO HANBEI WHEN YOU GET THERE!!11one1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still works as of 9/1/2024
I dont know if this is already mentioned but this does work with gyobu by fighting the samurai guy on the way to the games start location. Two minibosses are actually farmable in gyobu but i havent tested the drops
I would assume that like with Shigekichi they would not drop anytthing (except spirit emblems?) Also, as far as I know, there's no known way to make it back to the General after Ogre from the Gyoubu reflection.
That makes sense. I found the samurai refight after not playing for a while so I didn't bother testing what happens if he dies
It works tkanks, now I have the platinum
I dont have a grapling point by the idol?.
What know?
Assuming that you're in the Demon of Hatred reflection (because It does not appear there in the normal world). I haven't encountered this myself, so not sure how much I can help. You might have to try it again.
Struggling to enter Ashina castle. That Jump that’s blocked by the tree is stopping me from progressing. I play on PC, is this a console only thing?
It works on all versions of the game. There's a massive invisible wall that they added to prevent you from doing it. You have to go around it. There are tutorials for it, just search "bull skip tutorial" on youtube, it's hard to explain in text how to do it.
"me thinking everything will go smoothly"
*Being stuck for 30 minutes in a 2 second move he did*(still can't do it)
no worries, took me a few hours to get it the first time as well.
Wouldnt this work with the horse guy boss? Since its same arena, would be a thought since getting 40 beads super early would be easy but time consuming to get the money
It does not, since it is not possible to make it back to Dilapidated Temple, where the box is located, from Gyoubu's arena. The bridge that you run over while in the Demon of Hatred reflection is broken during daytime. The broken bridge is rebuilt by the interior ministry invaders, who attack after you defeat Divine Dragon. It only works because the demon of hatred reflection takes place during the 2nd invasion world state.
Edit: It may be possible that there's some way to get there that we aren't aware of, by using some glitches for example.
@@Holm_GG Interesting,maybe there's some bug that allows to do it that early but probably not
For those who don't know the demon of hatred is the sculpture 😢
Yes failed shura
So the Shinobi door connecting to Ashina Castle is also disabled
excelente me funciono, muchas gracias.
Does anyone know if i can still do this even if no prayer beads are available at the offering box? (i have 36 right now)
Pretty sure you can yea
I've been studying your video and doing just as you do when it comes to jumping over the tree branch and I truly believe it's patched, I've been at it an hour and no matter where I hit it the second jump doesn't work as if a wall is there.
There is a wall. The developers knew this was gonna be tried so they tried their best to prevent it when initially releasing the game, but no it was never patched and is possible on every version of the game.
You will probably need to watch this tutorial to learn it. It took me several hours before I ever hit it even when following a tutorial. ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
When I made the video I thought only speedrunners would watch it, so I didn't include any instructions on how to do stuff that speedrunners already know, sorry haha.
how did u get over the tree at the bull fight there a invisible wall for me
Yea there's a massive invisible wall that they added to prevent you from doing it. You have to go around it. There are tutorials for it, just search "bull skip tutorial" on youtube, it's hard to explain in text how to do it.
i cant seem to do the jump at 1:16
Same
Search up bull skip tutorial
It’s easy once u get the hang of it, gotta almost delay the jump off the edge
It genuinely pisses me off that he jumps the tree the first time 🙃it’s stressing me out more then fighting lord issin😭
Thank u man
to get back to temple, could you not use the shinobi shortcut in Kuro's room? I suppose they're disabled.
Yea, it is disabled. I should have mentioned this in the video. You also cannot even get into Kuro's room, because the windows are all closed and the arena where you fight Genichiro (rooftop) is enclosed with invisible wall as if the fight was active. No idea why it's like that lol
I did it all, bought the beads, and none of it carried over after idolling out
Probably never gonna use this glitch except to fuck around and have fun on already completed save files, but this is still super cool, thanks for sharing!!
Now I'm curious where else you can get OOB and find interesting stuff on current patch without cheats, there's probably some interesting stuff
I have a "glitch playlist" on my channel that has over 180 videos of interesting glitches, interactions and general knowledge about the game. It might be for you. A lot of the stuff there is still possible on current patch. FromSoft never really went that hard in patching stuff in Sekiro.
Although if you want an overview of what has been patched, I wrote a post about patch differences here: www.speedrun.com/sekiro/guides/om9zs
Thanks.
Hey, noticed you had a gourd seed in the box as well. Is it possible to use the glitch on the gourd seeds and go to Emma to get uncapped heals?
You can buy the gourd seeds infinitely in the same way as the beads, but the gourd upgrades stop after 10 charges.
you should have said you can not use coin purses in this......
BRO SAMEEE
How you break posture of that mini boss with only one suriken lol is that even possible?
I had a one shot cheat enabled that I used to showcase that he doesn't drop his normal drops.
nice vid, I was wondering if you could get to the dilapidated temple via the secret door in Kuro's room
You cannot. You can't even get into Kuro's room, but I also tried teleporting inside with cheats and you are not able to interact with the Shinobi shortcut.
@@Holm_GG I found something as well from your vid, not sure if it works on base game and everytime or not but if you go out of DOH arena to outskirts and commune with the idol which teleports you to the DOH arena, it changes the weather to storm and lightning similar to Isshin's 3rd phase.
Nothing major or anything I just found it cool.
Clicking the idol on Xbox freezes senior only allowing you to swap items
Got patched i think game won't let you hold onto it and the demon destroys the building instead of falling
nah, it still works
I did everything but the box is not showing anything, I can’t even press on the box
does this also work by going into gyobu reflection instead of demon of hatred ?
no
@@Holm_GG what a shame then, it would be op if you can do this right after gyobu
It works I just did it on ps5, the 2nd jump was so stupid😂
yea it can be pretty brutal
since using items in Reflections doesn't actually use them once you leave, would it be possible to use like, 10 heavy money bags to get 5000 gold, leave the memory after buying beads, and then repeating it?
Yes
What about the gourd seed ?
That can be bought in the same way too!
My game I can't do the bull skip part cuz the wall is spiked :(
It is not an easy jump, but know that it is absolutely possible.
don't let them see this lmao ..they can patch shit like this...dang and I just got my last to ending ...I backed up my save file and all ...need to beat ishin twice and I got a plat
Fromsoft never really patched stuff on this game. I guess they didn't have time.
They are focused on many other things like Elden Ring DLC and new projects, if they were worried about it they would have patched the Demon of Hatred skip a long time ago
@@therevanchist2888 I know I'm just paranoid ..my bad boys
So the money gets refunded but not the beads, kinda wild. Though having to do the bull skip each time is kind of a bummer.
Also kinda unrelated but do you have a reference or any tip on how to consistently do the skip to fountainhead palace, since you showed the debug menu I thought it could be helpfull
The airswim to fountainhead palace? I could try to make a tutorial for it. Personally, I learned it from watching speedruns but it did take a while to understand. I'm no expert on it, but I was thinking to do more tutorials on stuff anyway.
@@Holm_GG Thank you, I can never do it consistently. It's always either the initial jump, navigating to mibu or dying by invis death plane. All the tutorials I could find are either in chinese or without commentary.
Also curious if you can air swim to the reeds where you fight Gen iand Ishin after beating emma and the dragon for it to trigger something. When I last played, died to a death plane near there and had to air walk so didn't try again. There's probably nothing there but I'm too curious
@@rokudodamaza Yea, you can swim to the Sword Saint Isshin arena. I am not entirely sure of the pathing you have to take to avoid dying. As far as I remember, you need to swim to a specific spot at the edge of where ashina reservoir and ashina castle meet, and then quit out to deload the death planes that are attached to the ashina castle map, once you load in you should have reservoir loaded and the death barriers from the ashina castle map should be gone. I am not 100% sure this is how it precisely works, but it's something like that.
Edit: So yea, technically you can fight and kill both Isshins in one playthrough/NG cycle.
Im having some trouble with the jump around the trees where the bull boss should be
Any tips?
Omg i did it
How do i get prayer beads in the box?
Would i have to...skip prayer bead bosses or something? I cant kill merchant's (at least some of them)
Howd you ge the beads in there?
Or are they just there after you get passed demon/end game in reflection?
I also ended the training dummy guy..i guess that doesnt matter
Correct, none of that matters. You will be able to do the glitch later on in the game once you have defeated Demon in the normal world. Since it uses the reflection, almost nothing you do in the normal world affects it.
I just can’t do the bull skip jump. Damn.
yea, it is not easy.
Maybe I can give some tips: Try to do the wall jump before you start losing height, ideally you would jump at the apex of the jump to gain the max height (usually to gain max distance, you would walljump a bit after wolf starts falling, but that won't work here). If you still feel that you are missing height, then try jumping even earlier. Another tip is try moving the camera to look directly into the wall you are walljumping off of, this works really well for me.
@@Holm_GG I managed to get it thank you, it is a big pain to do but it can be done still!
@@TheSammydodger666hell yea dude, nice!
I farmed 10k to get 4 beads n when i communed back i still had my 10k sen
Yea you're correct, the money does not get consumed. I somehow didn't notice that when recording the video haha
Consumables that are used in the Reflections won't count as being used when you leave the Reflection, so it probably counts towards the Sen as well
@@tragicjon6193 Yea that would make sense. Sen throw acts the same way, where all the money you throw away is restored back to you once you leave the reflection/gauntlet.
Do you have to use the demon reflection? Cuz I haven’t made it that far :/
yes
@@Holm_GGI just beat him rn. What a pain in da ass he was😡. Can I do this with gourd seeds too?
@@MikeySpazzin you can yea
Bro there is a way to have more lazulite on the same party whit a bug or glicht somenthig like that im spanish sorry for bad english
What about the money to buy them? Will the money be added automatically?
Any money you spend buying stuff in the reflection will be given back to you after you return to the normal world. But you do need to have enough money in the first place to afford the items.
how did you get 800k sen...
Yo dont back out the game it wont save the beads i havent tried using the idol yet but just warning you btw im on NG+3 and i think i have allthe prayer beads but not sure completely
Interesting. But yea the glitch should work on any% NG level (where demon is dead) and even if you already have all 40 prayer beads. The beads in the shop are tied to internal flags that determine whether or not you can buy them. Those flags only apply in the "normal world" and not in the reflection.
Cool
I think it might be patched. The jump on 1:17 the branches are too long to reach.
nope still works on current patch
Yo can you use this to buy yashu sugars ?
I did not test him specifically, but it seems like merchants do not appear during the Demon of Hatred reflection world state. I am gonna try and see, I'll let you know the results.
It seems that it does not work, unfortunately. The merchant does not show up.
@@Holm_GG aw shucks man
Wait so do the prayer beads just appear in the box or do u have to do another step to get them in the box ?
The beads that you get in the box would be from minibosses you've missed. On the savefile I used, I didn't miss any of those bosses, so they should just be there no matter what when getting there through the reflection. A few times I tried using cheats to speed up the process of getting to the box, for testing purposes, and it sometimes seemed to mess with the contents of the box, or make it not openable. If you want to reproduce it, just follow the video.
@@Holm_GGkk thx for the info also u made that second jump look ezz 💀 I can’t do it the one at 1:16
@@abunny_5470 It's a bit tricky yea, I've been doing it for a while now in my speedruns. There's a tutorial here that may help you: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
@@Holm_GGty that video helped got it on my second try +1 sub 🫡
can you trade them in for necklaces tho
yes, up to the normal maximum of 20 vitality (10 necklaces).
@@Holm_GG so its useless if you have 10 necklaces already
least insane sekiro player
why does his health bar keep flashing?
Are the things in the offering box always there or do I have to do something to get them to spawn?
Can u sell prayer beads?
No
@@vitofolgado5202 damn
I killed all the minibosses , it works?
yes
So do u have 80k sen or does the game just lets u have 80k for no reason
I added in the money with cheats to do the demonstration, I specifically needed a savefile that hadn't acquired the beads that are buyable and that also had enough money.
@@Holm_GG Oh i see cool cool.
So do these additional prayer beads (above 40) Actually increase posture/vitality?
They do not, I showed that at the end of the video.
How do you make that jump around the bush?
Thats the neat part.
It is possible, but very difficult. I haven't been able to do it yet
that waht the point of carry 46 of the, ?
demon of hatred need to be alive?
You need to have defeated a boss to re-fight it in reflections of strength
u can just use CE atp theres no anticheat annyway. interesting tho
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Wait the reflection fights have rewards?
They do not
This is only for NG+ right because your first play through the box is empty. I think thats a huge detail everyone is missing
The box resets when you go to the next New Game cycle, it's designed for letting you acquire items you may have missed on that New Game cycle. Since the glitch requires you to use the reflection of strength it means that you can only do it once demon of hatred has been defeated. However, the box in the reflection is bugged to have full stock. So it doesn't really matter what you have done on your savefile as long as you can enter the demon reflection, you can do it.
@@Holm_GGSo you can access the box on your first play through? I thought you had to be on NG+
1:15 hard
Where/how do i get all that gold?
Couldn’t you use this shinobi door in kuros room?
It is disabled during the reflection, unfortunately.
How’d you get the coin glitch
i cant jump over the tree now is it patched?
Not patched, video is on current patch (1.06). The jump may take a bit of practice, it is not easy, but you can find a tutorial for the jump here: ua-cam.com/video/lAKV66fW4A0/v-deo.html
yes u had emblems
Ill do this with sugars and bs 😂
Unless theres a vendor that sells infinite ako sugar i hate farming it from the monks
You can’t use sen pouches so
Also DO NOT interact with the Buddha statue it will crash your game