When I did TMS four years ago, a creative streak came alive in me. It was so unexpected, but very exciting. I became a writer and got involved with our local theater community.
Wow, I'm at 7:30 and feel I'm being lectured to, and it's about as demeaning as people who say 'pull yourself together and snap out of it' to a clinically depressed or suicidal person. You can tell this lady has no idea what the lived experience of severe depression is, and is clueless as to how stressful she makes 'recovery' sound. How awful.
Thank you. #5 has convinced me I am not ready. I have a lot of anxiety and I am very bad about sleeping for long periods of time to deal with it. Money is an issue so I don't go out and do things. I really don't have friends. I know I would be better if I attempted to make friends, but I don't feel good about myself. I feel lazy and worthless. Thanks for your honesty.
Same here. The feeling of worthless and feeling lazy part. I’ve been on meds for over 30 years, I’m good financially and actually DON’T like people very much, I enjoy being alone. But the effort that needs to be put in while and after treatment could be applied now and we would get better. Well that’s the problem isn’t? We lack the motivation, the willing to live and fight for our own sanity. I’m more scared to do this and run the risk of not changing my bad habits leading to rewire my brain to this same dreadful feeling. Was looking forward to exploring this therapy as my nephew just started his. But with this great honest video I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m also not ready 😔 I know for a fact that this mental issue of mine will lead me to an early grave…… I can’t generate the will power to save my own life. What a losers!
Please get rid of the musak. It really undermines your presentation. You are an expert in your field so you don't need any props except yourself. You are extraordinarily well-spoken so let us hear your resonant and easy to listen to voice.
If you severely depressed pushing yourself by doing all those tools can lead to more stress and disappointment. Nevertheless its true that you have to be ready for change I terms of that it is your top priority but pushing yourself is not a good idea especially when you are depressed because you always have been pushed by others and or by your self to do more to do better, this pattern can go on with selfcare and therapie modalities.
I like your response (sorry about replying almost a year late). With #5 I feel as though if you were to actually go and make improvements in your life a lot of the original problems would be gone, at least in my opinion, but even then it's a toss up because is the problem an actual chemical imbalance or is it a more surroundings thing.
Different animal, nothing out there works for everyone. It’s either worth trying or not. Good luck, get all the help you can, find what works for you. I know that’s easier said than done, not trying to blow smoke. 🙏🕉️🩶
We have a Black Sea City with low intensity magnetic beach in Republic of Georgia. it's a low intensity magnetic beach created by river, which brings black Magnetite sand from mountains and deposits it on the area. In times of Soviet Union it was heaven for kids with bone disease and cardiovascular problems. You go there in Summer, stay 2 weeks, enjoy beach every day and simultaneously getting treatment. Sounds good? when you first go there the sand sticks to your skin, but after 10 day spend there, I guess magnetic balance restores and it does not stick any more.
I am going to finally do TMS so I really wanted to listen to this. The music is actually causing me anxiety…lol so it’s making me not want to watch any more of these videos. What a shame because the information is really good to know
I was about to comment on the annoying music. Saw the above same comment . It is serious subject. My daughter just attempted suicide, i want to listen clearly what the presenter said, as we are a foreigner can't understand American English well. This music making it worst.
Click on the subtitles so you can read the text. Hope your girl is doing better. I’ve been close to where she’s been and it’s dark. That’s good that you are there for her. Best of luck 😔
Yeah that number 5, it's rough. I've felt that way about new drug trials for a while, if I'm not in a mostly stable place trying a drug that's gonna take months to work and is probably gonna have side effects is more likely to just make things worse. But then, I've yet to have any medication make things better, really (probably tried 5 or so by now). I'm currently doing TMS, I'm on week 5, and while I am committed to showing up for the appointments everything else going on with me has been a problem. Frankly I'm having trouble even assessing if I am responding to the treatment because of the condition I came in with and because of my unclear understanding on many basic points like 'what specific problems I'm having are caused by depression' and 'what constitutes a depressive episode exactly' and 'do I have dythymia in addition to the mdd and gad I've already bee diagnosed with?' I was deep in the throws of a rather dramatic episode of anxiety when I came in and that caused a pretty serious exacerbation of all my symptoms, and while those episodes are terrible they are typically somewhat short-lived, so I have seen a reduction in those symptoms that is consistent to what I would expect normally, but I have yet to see any improvement and what has become my baseline for the last few years. It is very disheartening. On the other hand, I am also grieving the loss of my companion animal who died less than 2 months ago, and picking apart what is normal and 'healthy' grief and what is depression is a little rough. The doctor said that they treat people who have been through that sort of thing before and it shouldn't be a problem but I'm really struggling to understand what is even going on with me and I worry that if the treatment protocol needs adjusting I am not giving the clinic reliable information to work on. Also, you know, trying to enact other positive changes while juggling all that and really expending all of my limited resources just getting my butt in to my treatments is a big ask. I have been trying and mostly failing to get even a minuscule amount of exercise into my days (like 20 mins on an exercise bike at a fairly leisurely pace kinda minuscule), I've trying to get into mindfulness and meditation which I am more successful at in terms of not skipping days but less successful at in terms I don't think I'm doing it correctly. Like, meditation is hard and confusing so I don't know if it is helping at all. I started journaling, I can't tell if that helps at all. My parents are worried about me, of course, so I guess I'm being more social in that I'm calling them most days and my mother has been staying with me on the weekends. My diet remains a work-in-progress. It could be worse. Is all that enough or do I have to do more? I just don't think I can. If I can't get results I'm going to continue to be limited in what I can handle to try and get results, it's a huge catch 22.
U are a fantastic writer. As I was reading your comment it felt like a blog. Have u considered starting a group of ppl that relate to u? Your great at expressing yourself!
@@Nuverselive That's very kind of you to say. To be honest I feel like a lot of people I know in person relate and I talk to them about these sorts of things so I only occasionally bring it to the internet. Obvs when I wrote that I had a lot of thoughts. I'm still struggling but in fewer ways that are new and interesting and more ways that are just ongoing and boring. Unfortunately the TMS was a bust, but all it cost me was my time so I wouldn't advise against it.
How long does it last? For the cost, 250-300$ per session X 20-40 sessions .. 🇨🇦 not covering it yet. Work insurance only covers whatever mental health coverage limit is. This definitely should be covered by our provincial insurance..
@@palomacattelan9969 thank God it subsided later that day. It scared me so bad I stopped going. I did feel better afterward but too scared to proceed therapy
I have AuDHD and I got a brain mapping today. I don't want to continue. It will only make the bad effects worse, although of course the good ones will be better... I think in my case, I would have no anxiety or autistic overthinking and obsession, but, my ADHD would be worse as in the focus issues, and the short term memory and multitasking. Physically, I will lose balance when walking and I won't be able to drive. So, I won't continue anymore but I am grateful it took some anxiety. Unfortunately the rest feels like brain damage but I'd like to believe it's so minor that I can reverse it a significant amount by exercising the skills it appears to have removed.@@xdnewsman7408 Edit: I'm rereading my comment and I don't think the autism was cured...at all...lol.
I'm booked in for TMS treatment and this has really put me off. I'm severely depressed, and you're literally saying you have to be disciplined and motivated, with a can-do attitude and a pep in your step, or treatment won't work. Seriously? You think this is helpful? Do you understand depression or not? What an annoying and unhelpful video.
Hi everyone! It's about 5 years that i am wrestling with partial epilepsy and right now i am under treatment. in the video i saw that miss doctor described, but i couldn't find out that is it necessary to get TMS treatment for me? Plz someone explain it
Too me this seems like a video not to try TMS. There are different reasons for someone's to try this treatment. When you said people have to be ready to committee. Thats is the whole reason folks want to get better. Do you think there would be any other reasons? Yes, the music should definitely go.
Hi. Thanks for the video. I tried TMS in the past but stopped it after three treatments because it was cause slight spasms in my eye and I seemed to be slightly worse. In your opinion, did I give it enough of a chance? Thanks for any info.
every person should never do TMS therapy. It’s the worst thing I ever did. I can’t walk a straight line. I can’t drive as well. I didn’t drive for a whole year. I have sticky notes all over my house, telling me where my socks are in my bras and underwear, etc. I have sticky notes in my kitchen to show me where my silverware is my freezer my refrigerator, I lost my short term. Memory will go somewhere at three days later I said we need to go there and I’ve already been there and I don’t remember it at all. I have the stim rock reflex. I have vertigo. I never had any of those things before I did that stupid thing$10,000 to screw up my life
I have heard its fine to take medication while being treated. You may find after your treated fully you may need less medication or you may need the same amount of medication. I would think it is determined by you and your doctor. I am not a medical professional but have been researching this treatment and intend to start TMS very soon. I wish you well on your mental health journey. It will be a winding road but stay strong you are worthy and your family and loved ones need and want you in their lives.
All I can say is that my nephew is doing the treatment. I literally found out yesterday, he’s off of EVERYTHING! I haven’t asked if it was his choice or his doctors guidance. But going all natural after 30 years of being on SSRIs and benzodiazepine/Adderall I think I would explode. Most likely end myself, so how the F is this possible if you need to be clean!? I wish they could just put me in a coma to detox from years of pharmaceutical poisons. 🤔 I wonder if that’s a thing…..
@@jameswalker68 dude he did it cold turkey! Crazy, I can’t fathom doing that myself. I try to reach out to him at least 3 times a week and he replies when he’s ok with communicating. I don’t even sweat that bc I 💯 understand him, I’m kinda the same way. But the last thing he gave up is the weed and alcohol. Which I was really happy to hear. He used those two things mildly tho, nothing crazy. Like a joint every other day and a few beers in between, but he becomes someone else while under the influence. I’m just glad he stopped that shit
Patients in testimonials on online advertisements have claimed that "[...] I don't know why I'm saying this [...]". That statement under different circumstances can be found by courts to classify people undergoing these therapies as legally incompetent. This is a risk people face to their rights, and something I'm worried these companies are not fully informing their patients about.
When I did TMS four years ago, a creative streak came alive in me. It was so unexpected, but very exciting. I became a writer and got involved with our local theater community.
Mondo cool! So how are you now?
Very informative but the music is very annoying...
It’s alright
I put this on closed caption and blocked the audio.
I’m so happy that all of these new treatments are coming out
Background music too high
Wow, I'm at 7:30 and feel I'm being lectured to, and it's about as demeaning as people who say 'pull yourself together and snap out of it' to a clinically depressed or suicidal person. You can tell this lady has no idea what the lived experience of severe depression is, and is clueless as to how stressful she makes 'recovery' sound. How awful.
I really like your "What if I get better?"...discussion. Spot on...
Thank you. #5 has convinced me I am not ready. I have a lot of anxiety and I am very bad about sleeping for long periods of time to deal with it. Money is an issue so I don't go out and do things. I really don't have friends. I know I would be better if I attempted to make friends, but I don't feel good about myself. I feel lazy and worthless. Thanks for your honesty.
I think you'd be helped by tms. I had anxiety - since childhood - and after tms it's gone
Sounds like you would/could be so much better with TMS.
Same here. The feeling of worthless and feeling lazy part. I’ve been on meds for over 30 years, I’m good financially and actually DON’T like people very much, I enjoy being alone.
But the effort that needs to be put in while and after treatment could be applied now and we would get better. Well that’s the problem isn’t? We lack the motivation, the willing to live and fight for our own sanity.
I’m more scared to do this and run the risk of not changing my bad habits leading to rewire my brain to this same dreadful feeling.
Was looking forward to exploring this therapy as my nephew just started his. But with this great honest video I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m also not ready 😔
I know for a fact that this mental issue of mine will lead me to an early grave……
I can’t generate the will power to save my own life. What a losers!
I pray you are better and making progress
My wife is beginning TMS this week after dealing with treatment resistant depression for 5 years. Nothing has helped so far.
If you could, keep us updated on how it's going for her, please.
Great, I hope it helps. Unfortunately medication for depression has no benefits for 25% of patients so trying an alternative is a great idea.
How did the treatment go?
Inconclusive.
@@jeffloewi5632 thanks and sorry to hear that. Hopefully you guys find a solution soon
#5 gave me chills. Because I'm So ready for change
Please get rid of the musak. It really undermines your presentation. You are an expert in your field so you don't need any props except yourself. You are extraordinarily well-spoken so let us hear your resonant and easy to listen to voice.
If you severely depressed pushing yourself by doing all those tools can lead to more stress and disappointment. Nevertheless its true that you have to be ready for change I terms of that it is your top priority but pushing yourself is not a good idea especially when you are depressed because you always have been pushed by others and or by your self to do more to do better, this pattern can go on with selfcare and therapie modalities.
I like your response (sorry about replying almost a year late). With #5 I feel as though if you were to actually go and make improvements in your life a lot of the original problems would be gone, at least in my opinion, but even then it's a toss up because is the problem an actual chemical imbalance or is it a more surroundings thing.
Good grief ! I can barely hear you !
I tried ketamine and heard similar claims...ketamine was a total waste of time and money, plus the treatments were stuff of nightmares.
Different animal, nothing out there works for everyone. It’s either worth trying or not.
Good luck, get all the help you can, find what works for you.
I know that’s easier said than done, not trying to blow smoke.
🙏🕉️🩶
Awesome video. Fact based and not pushing treatment. Ty.
Point 5 was as honest as it gets. This is an excellent presentation.
If TMS doesn’t help you with those symptoms to b able to function and do those changes then I am not sure what’s the point. That’s why u came to do it
We have a Black Sea City with low intensity magnetic beach in Republic of Georgia. it's a low intensity magnetic beach created by river, which brings black Magnetite sand from mountains and deposits it on the area. In times of Soviet Union it was heaven for kids with bone disease and cardiovascular problems. You go there in Summer, stay 2 weeks, enjoy beach every day and simultaneously getting treatment. Sounds good? when you first go there the sand sticks to your skin, but after 10 day spend there, I guess magnetic balance restores and it does not stick any more.
Best explanation I've seen so far.
Love this, thank you!! If make any future videos please turn down music.
How does this compare to Ketamine for depression?
I am going to finally do TMS so I really wanted to listen to this. The music is actually causing me anxiety…lol so it’s making me not want to watch any more of these videos. What a shame because the information is really good to know
I agree with the music --I started this treatment nearly two weeks ago. I’ll let you know how it goes.😊
I was about to comment on the annoying music. Saw the above same comment . It is serious subject. My daughter just attempted suicide, i want to listen clearly what the presenter said, as we are a foreigner can't understand American English well. This music making it worst.
Click on the subtitles so you can read the text. Hope your girl is doing better. I’ve been close to where she’s been and it’s dark. That’s good that you are there for her. Best of luck 😔
Very helpful info....I'm 3wks into it!
Just finished week 4. How is it working out for you?
Thank you for such an informative AND honest video. So glad you mentioned number five… Definitely one to consider deeply before committing.
Every brain is different ❤❤❤❤
After the treatment is finished will the depression, anxiety, and negative thoughts come back?
Yes-- if you don't continuously address the underlying issues contributing to your depression and anxiety
Excellent! Thank you!
Great video… #5 … 👍
Nope, I give up!
Hopeful message ❤❤❤❤❤
Its good for depression but you cant get it if youre depressed wth?
Yeah that number 5, it's rough. I've felt that way about new drug trials for a while, if I'm not in a mostly stable place trying a drug that's gonna take months to work and is probably gonna have side effects is more likely to just make things worse. But then, I've yet to have any medication make things better, really (probably tried 5 or so by now). I'm currently doing TMS, I'm on week 5, and while I am committed to showing up for the appointments everything else going on with me has been a problem. Frankly I'm having trouble even assessing if I am responding to the treatment because of the condition I came in with and because of my unclear understanding on many basic points like 'what specific problems I'm having are caused by depression' and 'what constitutes a depressive episode exactly' and 'do I have dythymia in addition to the mdd and gad I've already bee diagnosed with?' I was deep in the throws of a rather dramatic episode of anxiety when I came in and that caused a pretty serious exacerbation of all my symptoms, and while those episodes are terrible they are typically somewhat short-lived, so I have seen a reduction in those symptoms that is consistent to what I would expect normally, but I have yet to see any improvement and what has become my baseline for the last few years. It is very disheartening.
On the other hand, I am also grieving the loss of my companion animal who died less than 2 months ago, and picking apart what is normal and 'healthy' grief and what is depression is a little rough. The doctor said that they treat people who have been through that sort of thing before and it shouldn't be a problem but I'm really struggling to understand what is even going on with me and I worry that if the treatment protocol needs adjusting I am not giving the clinic reliable information to work on.
Also, you know, trying to enact other positive changes while juggling all that and really expending all of my limited resources just getting my butt in to my treatments is a big ask. I have been trying and mostly failing to get even a minuscule amount of exercise into my days (like 20 mins on an exercise bike at a fairly leisurely pace kinda minuscule), I've trying to get into mindfulness and meditation which I am more successful at in terms of not skipping days but less successful at in terms I don't think I'm doing it correctly. Like, meditation is hard and confusing so I don't know if it is helping at all. I started journaling, I can't tell if that helps at all. My parents are worried about me, of course, so I guess I'm being more social in that I'm calling them most days and my mother has been staying with me on the weekends. My diet remains a work-in-progress. It could be worse. Is all that enough or do I have to do more? I just don't think I can. If I can't get results I'm going to continue to be limited in what I can handle to try and get results, it's a huge catch 22.
U are a fantastic writer. As I was reading your comment it felt like a blog. Have u considered starting a group of ppl that relate to u? Your great at expressing yourself!
@@Nuverselive That's very kind of you to say.
To be honest I feel like a lot of people I know in person relate and I talk to them about these sorts of things so I only occasionally bring it to the internet. Obvs when I wrote that I had a lot of thoughts. I'm still struggling but in fewer ways that are new and interesting and more ways that are just ongoing and boring.
Unfortunately the TMS was a bust, but all it cost me was my time so I wouldn't advise against it.
How are you today?
Does TMS is beneficial for multiple sclerosis? Does TMS would provoke JC Virus?
good information
Thank you, appreciated your closing comments, any progress on FDA approval for treatment resistant bipolar II?
How long does it last?
For the cost, 250-300$ per session X 20-40 sessions .. 🇨🇦 not covering it yet. Work insurance only covers whatever mental health coverage limit is.
This definitely should be covered by our provincial insurance..
I liked this video a lot
It's the negative thoughts that keep on coming back ocd can it work for that?
severe increase of suisidal thoughts and panic attacks after just 2 sessions, is that normal? should I even continue?
Hey how are you now?
@@palomacattelan9969 thank God it subsided later that day. It scared me so bad I stopped going. I did feel better afterward but too scared to proceed therapy
I had the exact same thing, and stopped. It luckily went away after stopping. I wonder if i continued if it would have gotten better though.
This could take years😢😢😢😢😢😢
Is this something for chronic pain sufferers (spinal cord injury from a decade of a herniated disk)?
Do you have any info for people with ADHD? Can TMS help executive function? Thank you
Came here from a video by huberman about focus improvement and ADHD, didn't watch it, but as he mentioned this treatment - I jumped googling it.
I have AuDHD and I got a brain mapping today. I don't want to continue. It will only make the bad effects worse, although of course the good ones will be better... I think in my case, I would have no anxiety or autistic overthinking and obsession, but, my ADHD would be worse as in the focus issues, and the short term memory and multitasking. Physically, I will lose balance when walking and I won't be able to drive. So, I won't continue anymore but I am grateful it took some anxiety. Unfortunately the rest feels like brain damage but I'd like to believe it's so minor that I can reverse it a significant amount by exercising the skills it appears to have removed.@@xdnewsman7408
Edit: I'm rereading my comment and I don't think the autism was cured...at all...lol.
I'm booked in for TMS treatment and this has really put me off. I'm severely depressed, and you're literally saying you have to be disciplined and motivated, with a can-do attitude and a pep in your step, or treatment won't work. Seriously? You think this is helpful? Do you understand depression or not? What an annoying and unhelpful video.
Agreed
Hi everyone! It's about 5 years that i am wrestling with partial epilepsy and right now i am under treatment. in the video i saw that miss doctor described, but i couldn't find out that is it necessary to get TMS treatment for me? Plz someone explain it
sounds like stone soup
Too me this seems like a video not to try TMS. There are different reasons for someone's to try this treatment. When you said people have to be ready to committee. Thats is the whole reason folks want to get better. Do you think there would be any other reasons? Yes, the music should definitely go.
Please remove the music. I'm really interested but can't concentrate with the music louder than your voice. Thanks. 6
Why is there music in the background.
Does TMS work for cluster headaches?
Hi. Thanks for the video. I tried TMS in the past but stopped it after three treatments because it was cause slight spasms in my eye and I seemed to be slightly worse. In your opinion, did I give it enough of a chance? Thanks for any info.
Hi, would I get better after 2 weeks and then stop the treatment
unlikely. You may see a slight increase in mood but it will not be sustained in just two weeks
every person should never do TMS therapy. It’s the worst thing I ever did. I can’t walk a straight line. I can’t drive as well. I didn’t drive for a whole year. I have sticky notes all over my house, telling me where my socks are in my bras and underwear, etc. I have sticky notes in my kitchen to show me where my silverware is my freezer my refrigerator, I lost my short term. Memory will go somewhere at three days later I said we need to go there and I’ve already been there and I don’t remember it at all. I have the stim rock reflex. I have vertigo. I never had any of those things before I did that stupid thing$10,000 to screw up my life
Do people need to stop taking medications for depression/ anxiety before trying TMS?
I have heard its fine to take medication while being treated. You may find after your treated fully you may need less medication or you may need the same amount of medication. I would think it is determined by you and your doctor. I am not a medical professional but have been researching this treatment and intend to start TMS very soon. I wish you well on your mental health journey. It will be a winding road but stay strong you are worthy and your family and loved ones need and want you in their lives.
@@paulbergey1917 Thank you so much. Good luck.
All I can say is that my nephew is doing the treatment. I literally found out yesterday, he’s off of EVERYTHING! I haven’t asked if it was his choice or his doctors guidance. But going all natural after 30 years of being on SSRIs and benzodiazepine/Adderall I think I would explode. Most likely end myself, so how the F is this possible if you need to be clean!?
I wish they could just put me in a coma to detox from years of pharmaceutical poisons. 🤔 I wonder if that’s a thing…..
@@zjediniteSo sorry to hear all that. How did ur nephew come off his medications?
@@jameswalker68 dude he did it cold turkey! Crazy, I can’t fathom doing that myself. I try to reach out to him at least 3 times a week and he replies when he’s ok with communicating.
I don’t even sweat that bc I 💯 understand him, I’m kinda the same way.
But the last thing he gave up is the weed and alcohol. Which I was really happy to hear. He used those two things mildly tho, nothing crazy. Like a joint every other day and a few beers in between, but he becomes someone else while under the influence. I’m just glad he stopped that shit
My doctor in Taiwan said no to TMS because I have a titanium plate in my head due to brain surgery. Do you think it’s ok?
No its contraindicated if you have metal in your head.
Cultivate a healthy brain❤❤❤❤
IMO its just lobotomy but with precautions., and seeing a video on how your brains reacts to this treatment just dont settle right.. 😬
Fully agreed!!
Please ditch the music!
Benzos?
Support team? Y’all have support teams? Spouse? Who has these things 😂
Ikr!!😢
Patients in testimonials on online advertisements have claimed that "[...] I don't know why I'm saying this [...]".
That statement under different circumstances can be found by courts to classify people undergoing these therapies as legally incompetent. This is a risk people face to their rights, and something I'm worried these companies are not fully informing their patients about.
I don’t understand what you’re saying.
I couldn’t watch this because of the music! Please remove the music, it’s interfering terribly🥲