The Two Bordens: The Prestige Recut

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • FMMC 431 Seminar Project. An examination of Christian Bale's performance as "the two Bordens" illustrated through their relationship(s) with Sarah.

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  • @mjc5088
    @mjc5088 8 років тому +202

    " you think I bloody enjoy living like this?!" Christian bale is an awesome actor man, great movie!

  • @onnixcarmichele3911
    @onnixcarmichele3911 4 роки тому +145

    “You think I bloody enjoy living like this?!”
    The first time we watch the movie, we’re meant to think that he was talking about the marriage. Once we find out the ending, that line takes on a whole new meaning. So many lines and scenes in the movie are recontextualized with the knowledge of how it ends.

  • @shaeelynn
    @shaeelynn 5 років тому +261

    Sarah was smart she unknowingly could tell them apart, couldn't they have at least confided in Sarah to tell her the truth than she probably would've lived

    • @habibzakary4701
      @habibzakary4701 5 років тому +68

      He Would Lose Her If He Did.
      He Lied To Her From The Beginning.
      You Remember The Day They First Met?!
      One Of Them Had Lunch With Sarah And The Other One Was Inside Her Apartment.
      She Thought It Was Trick.
      Telling Her The Truth Would Ruin Such A Beautiful Memory Of Her's.

    • @habibzakary4701
      @habibzakary4701 5 років тому +5

      1:47
      Saying She's Smart Isn't Fair Towards Sarah.
      She Would Know When It's Her Husband Cause She's A True Lover And A True Lover Has His/Her Own Instinct.

    • @xaviermill7440
      @xaviermill7440 3 роки тому +4

      @@habibzakary4701 she did know the truth and therefore she has to pay the price/sacrifice as Albert Borden revealed in the last scene to Angier.

    • @habibzakary4701
      @habibzakary4701 3 роки тому +14

      @@xaviermill7440
      No, She Didn't.
      Remember The Day Borden's Twin Was Saved After He Was Burried Alive By Angier.
      It Was His Turn That Very Night To Be In The Prestige.
      She Begged Him To Stop Drinking And Take Off The Fake Beard.
      Also She Said: "Alfred! This Isn't You. Stop Acting!"

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway 3 роки тому +1

      It would’ve been like Dead Ringers of one woman sleeping with two different men, would be disgusting.

  • @danmurray1996
    @danmurray1996 4 роки тому +205

    I know everyone feels the need to pick a side Borden or Angier, but I think the incidental villain is the dead brother. He was always the rasher one of the two, an I believe he was responsible for Angier's wife's death. He was also responsible for Sarah's death. He was the one that pushed Angier down the path of vengeance that consumed him.

    • @piyali444
      @piyali444 4 роки тому +31

      Exactly my thought...it was the dead brother

    • @flavio7180
      @flavio7180 3 роки тому +36

      They were all bad people. The brother that lived could have told the truth to his wife but he preferred magic over her, leading to her death, and Angier did many awful things as well. Even Cutter could have said the truth about Angier being alive and could have saved the other brother but didn’t.

    • @lukenorth7127
      @lukenorth7127 3 роки тому +20

      You’re all correct. It’s emotional Borden’s fault Angier’s wife died. The stoic twin who attended the funeral didn’t know which knot “he” tied because 1) he didn’t tie it, and 2) he wasn’t going to open that can of....dung with the twin who did.
      The emotional twin let his emotions get the better of him when Sarah got upset over Olivia. Hence “I’m sorry about Sarah. I didn’t mean to hurt her. I didn’t!”

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 3 роки тому +2

      You think he was careless and tied the wrong knot?

    • @Grivian
      @Grivian 3 роки тому +4

      I think Angier is the bad guy of the movie from the start

  • @mughwortslongshot4545
    @mughwortslongshot4545 4 роки тому +113

    So for those of you who don't know, alfred was a name made by the borden twins by combining their real first names together; albert (the gentle one who loves sarah) and frederick (the aggressive one who loves olivia)

  • @tyler5753
    @tyler5753 2 роки тому +24

    I love how Angier still has the respect for Borden to admit that it’s “the best trick he’s ever seen”

  • @SamJac55
    @SamJac55 3 роки тому +38

    The reason this movie is one of my favorites is that all three of the main characters (the Borden brothers and Angier) are all villains. Angier although partially justified, is a vengeful and hateful person who ends up committing murder/suicide on a nightly basis and both Borden brothers because they are so committed to a lie that they torture the people they love as a consequence to the point of their wife committing suicide. It's hard for me to pick out one that is worse. Likely Angier is the worst followed by the meaner brother but all are total shit-bags.

  • @jaredslye3498
    @jaredslye3498 10 років тому +47

    Such a good movie and this video was very well put together.

  • @Calucifer13
    @Calucifer13 15 років тому +103

    I was so sorry for Borden. Not first, because he looked like a detached, unpleasant man that no one could live with. Just a real bad guy. But after I found out that he was really the good guy and Angier the bad guy - Angier became really merciless and inhumanely scary - I was sorry forBorden. Because it was HIM, who truly DEVOTED himself to the craft, who destroyed his own life willingly for the sake of his magic tricks. I admire him.

    • @ryleyleseberg7422
      @ryleyleseberg7422 6 років тому +11

      Calucifer13 ... he killed the dudes wife....

    • @wnd9434
      @wnd9434 5 років тому +13

      @@ryleyleseberg7422 i dont think he killed her. They( borden) got confused because they switch side a lot of and the one cutter say to dont mess up the rope wasnt there to hear about it.

    • @NaufalPrahaditya
      @NaufalPrahaditya 5 років тому +8

      neither is villain mate, only competition

    • @matthewlewis9594
      @matthewlewis9594 4 роки тому +23

      I wouldn't classify Borden or Angier as the 'villain'; they both fell victim to a disease of the psyche. The story is tragic in every conceivable direction.

    • @H_Malik_RL
      @H_Malik_RL 3 роки тому +9

      @@ryleyleseberg7422 the wife agreed to the knot, she believed she could slip it. She was just as responsible for her death as he was

  • @calesun9
    @calesun9 3 роки тому +27

    So when Rob Angier asked (Alfred) Borden what knot he tied and he said he didn't know, it's because he *really* didn't know. It was (Fallon) Borden that tied the knot, so only Fallon knows; Angier just happened to only be asking Alfred.

    • @omegamanGXE
      @omegamanGXE 2 роки тому +2

      Jimmy Fallon

    • @dirt_xo
      @dirt_xo Рік тому +2

      Freddy Borden lol but yes. Saying Fallon is just confusing but you got it right

  • @steevedaw566
    @steevedaw566 5 років тому +34

    The twist is in the twist.

  • @jamlym4974
    @jamlym4974 7 років тому +108

    Borden had a terrible assistant always pretending to be him and ruining his marriage.

  • @ronaldp.vincent8226
    @ronaldp.vincent8226 3 роки тому +34

    I think one of the twins was more emotional and brash, and the other was the genius. It makes sense for the "why can't you outthink him?" line. The emotional one was the one who got buried and was ranting about it at dinner. He was also the one who was executed.

    • @judeak2442
      @judeak2442 2 роки тому

      Wrong it was the stoic one who got executed

    • @ronaldp.vincent8226
      @ronaldp.vincent8226 2 роки тому +8

      @@judeak2442 Before he’s executed, he says “I’m sorry about Sarah. I didn’t mean to hurt her.” I believe the stoic one loved Sarah and the one who was executed loved Olivia. Sarah doesn’t like him when he’s brash so I think it makes sense.

    • @judeak2442
      @judeak2442 2 роки тому +1

      @@ronaldp.vincent8226 I think you may be right, and if you are it makes me feel loads better! The reason I agree with you was when he was heading to the gallows he said “abracadabra “ and was terrified. I feel like the stoic one would have just been silent. This had made me rethink the whole thing! 😂 my apologies

    • @ronaldp.vincent8226
      @ronaldp.vincent8226 2 роки тому

      @@judeak2442 No need to apologize! You may still be right, it’s just what I thought. Maybe I think it’s the brash one because it makes me feel better too lol.

    • @judeak2442
      @judeak2442 2 роки тому +2

      @@ronaldp.vincent8226 Respect but the more I think about it the more your interpretation makes sense.

  • @deepL0
    @deepL0 2 роки тому +4

    Most perfect film I ever watched

  • @brucedoyle4055
    @brucedoyle4055 5 років тому +45

    Man I honestly never thought he had a Twin(in the Movie), the Make up was so good I never realised its Bale. I just wonder why they always switched roles, I mean why couldn't the Brother who loved Sarah be with her every time when he is at home instead of switching back and forth with his Brother, I mean I get at some instances like meeting her somewhere would be hard, but atleast befor he gets home to her, they could have switched, that would have prevented a fight or atleast the real Alfred would have handled the situation better.

    • @HORSESNDOGS9
      @HORSESNDOGS9 4 роки тому +3

      That's what I was wondering

    • @umarrayyaan3846
      @umarrayyaan3846 4 роки тому +44

      They both have different qualities. One is more an engineur, whereas the other was a showman. Just like the theory, nobody cares about the man in the box, that disappear rather, it's the one that appear back.
      From what i read, Alfred Borden consist of Albert and Frederick Borden, thus the two makes the character Alfred. Albert is engineur, the brains, more calm one. He is the one who loves Sarah. Freddie is the showman, the one who sells the tricks to the audience, he is the one who seduced Sarah with his charms for his brother, he is the one more preoccupied with being the best magician, and is portrayed to be more angry and ruthless.
      None could succeed without the other given both have different abilities that their character would need throughout their lives. I hope that makes sense.
      The theory is that Freddie is the one who dies, because he was so obsessed in knowing the secret of the Angier's trick and went to the show. That's why in prison, he says '' I'm sorry about Sarah, i didn't mean to hurt her ''
      In the end, it is Albert who is, the rightful father who reunites with his daughter.
      I read one comment, it says Albert and Frederick can be distinguished by the presence/absence of a scar on their left eyebrow.

    • @balehead._
      @balehead._ 2 роки тому +4

      I guess they did this so Sarah won't be able distinguish between the both as if alferd spent most of the time with her then she can tell that it's not him when they switches u know so that she used to the changes in his behaviour and normalise it

    • @omegamanGXE
      @omegamanGXE 2 роки тому +1

      Muslim Bale

  • @kirandhillon9159
    @kirandhillon9159 Рік тому +5

    Random fact 00:47 that baby is christopher nolan son oliver

  • @sebastianmaregatti
    @sebastianmaregatti 4 роки тому +10

    What sucks even more is that the ones who lived won’t get to be with their significant othee

  • @jamlym4974
    @jamlym4974 7 років тому +18

    The joys of being a twin.

    • @pearlydae
      @pearlydae 6 років тому +5

      Jam Lym really ? The joys of deceiving people and making them crazy???

    • @nagavenisv9598
      @nagavenisv9598 5 років тому

      @@pearlydae its up to people as nobody can force others to become crazy but its all on them & its not others fault when certain useless people can't handle that pressure

  • @ChubbyChecker182
    @ChubbyChecker182 4 роки тому +17

    There's 3 Alfred's in this movie

    • @ishaansejpal249
      @ishaansejpal249 4 роки тому +12

      4 actually! Andy Serkis will play Alfred now in the new upcoming Batman movies alongside Pattinson too!

    • @drroast4265
      @drroast4265 3 роки тому +3

      @@ishaansejpal249 wtf😂

  • @jonnymo1976
    @jonnymo1976 3 роки тому +7

    Hits harder when you find out Bateman played Paul Allen in American Psycho with 3 takes
    As the killer
    Not the killer
    Unsure if he was the killer or not
    & the director mixed 3 in the edit for the final film.
    You never know which one is which.

    • @TheSastoke
      @TheSastoke Рік тому +3

      That was only for William Dafoe's takes lol

  • @CallumDickson666
    @CallumDickson666 5 місяців тому +1

    The dinner scene where Alfred is going on about his new trick about being buried alive sent alarm bells ringing the first time I watched this but I couldnt connect the dots. On future viewings its clear that it is because that was the "Alfred" that was buried alive and hence why he was drinking like he nearly died 😅

  • @Meltedcheese567
    @Meltedcheese567 Рік тому +7

    My question is, when would the twins have started this ruse and why? Even in the movie they didn't start the transported man trick for quite awhile. Would no one in their community have known that they were born twin boys? Why deceive sarah? There were some elements about this deception that didn't make sense.

    • @yscbruno
      @yscbruno 11 місяців тому +1

      I think their separate qualities are not enough on their own, they have to be one. So they had that setup so both of them can have the prestige of their combined version. The other is the innovator and the latter is the showman.

  • @Finkardop
    @Finkardop 7 років тому +57

    did bordens wife eventually figure out that one was the twin and the one she married?

    • @99bits46
      @99bits46 6 років тому +40

      she couldn't figure out so she killed herself

    • @bluebeatle3606
      @bluebeatle3606 6 років тому +8

      She did. That's why he(or they) framed Sarah to commit a suicide not to reveal his secrets.

    • @gabye.
      @gabye. 6 років тому +27

      I think so , Imagine you live your life and being shared with 2 brothers, having sex with one you love and then unknowingly do that with his brother. That sometimes a "bipolar" man ( to her knowledge) really loves her, and the next one didn't, she felt that and became depressed, then when she figured it out, the deception throughout her marriage, not knowing who was the father of her child...I simply say that she put the pieces of this man puzzle together( the healing wound that next day was like it was freshly wounded) the non existent care of 1 of them towards her...She killed herself because of this was a betrayal.

    • @orangefox1231
      @orangefox1231 6 років тому +42

      I think it’s...up in the air on that one. These morons above who think they staged her death or that she was sleeping with both brothers are wrong. I’m very certain that she only slept with her husband and the other twin was able to dodge things. Sarah is the proper type of lady so impromptu liaisons are unlikely. Fallon was the one at home at night typically.
      I think she just couldn’t deal with the anxiety of it all and killed herself. Their mistake was not trusting her :(

    • @shaeelynn
      @shaeelynn 5 років тому +29

      My take away is that she probably didn't know they were twins she had an inkling that sometimes he didn't act right and she could always tell when she was really with her husband not the twin cuz she felt loved but once Olivia came in the picture and he brought her around Sarah she started getting depressed feeling like she was losing her husband than the twin telling her he didn't love her I think pushed her over the edge and she killed herself I don't think she had figured out fully what was going on just knew something was off about it

  • @livee1684ify
    @livee1684ify 11 років тому +9

    Great job! So sad

  • @carlhole-maloney3249
    @carlhole-maloney3249 4 роки тому +5

    I have this on blu ray..

  • @batbullet3315
    @batbullet3315 11 місяців тому +1

    You know I understood why they took turns to do the trick but why did they take turns in each other's lives that part never made sense

    • @CallumDickson666
      @CallumDickson666 5 місяців тому +1

      To reap the benefits of being "Alfred". Im sure which ever was playing "Fallon" had a lot going for them, but being "Alfred" was far greater.

  • @jamlym4974
    @jamlym4974 7 років тому +11

    It's a good twist, but I'm a little unclear on which was which.

    • @orangefox1231
      @orangefox1231 6 років тому +32

      Watch closely. The one who is affectionate vs the one who is career focused

    • @TheManiHimself
      @TheManiHimself 5 років тому +9

      Orange Fox the one who kept making the mistakes is the one that died the one that messed the knot the one that was heng bent on competing

    • @thedarkknight9153
      @thedarkknight9153 2 роки тому +6

      If you pay close attention, you can actually tell in EVERY scene Borden is in which one is Albert and which one is Frederick (for those of you who don’t know, that is the name of each of them as their names together form “Alfred.”)
      Frederick: the one who follows Angier down below the stage and every subsequent scene of him in prison/trial/execution. Obviously.
      Frederick: first time we see Borden when he’s on the stage performing the underwater trick since he flies off the handle more and discusses changing knots.
      Albert: the one who sees the show with the Chinese man. This COULD be Frederick but he just seems softer and nicer to Angier.
      Albert: the one who performs the bird trick with Virgil and follows Sarah and her nephew. Frederick is the one waiting for her in her apartment pouring tea.
      Frederick: the one who talks to Sarah about the bullet catch. Obviously it’s him because she catches him when she doesn’t believe him when he says “I love you.” Also when she mentions she’s pregnant and he says, “We should’ve told Fallon!” Because he knew he’s the father.
      Albert: the one who visits Angier. “I’m sorry for your loss, Angier.” He didn’t know which knot his brother tied and he’s nicer and sincere.
      Albert: the one performing the ring trick and gets his fingers shot off.
      Frederick: “it’s as bad as it was.” “We can’t AFFORD (bang!) the bloody doctor back.”
      Albert: the one who pulled the key for his family and said, “You caught me in the wrong mood.”
      Albert/Frederick: performing the transported man trick. Don’t know who’s who though.
      Frederick: the one Olivia initially talks to when Angier sends her there.
      Frederick: the one who manipulates Root in the bar and takes Angier’s spot in his magic act. Just a viciousness that Frederick demonstrates.
      Albert: the one who gets trapped in the coffin. This is apparent because later at dinner, it’s obviously Frederick who was being called “Freddy” by Olivia (which he likes because it more closely resembles his real name.) and since he was the one who said he thought he’d lost something very dear to him (his brother).
      Albert: the one who talks to Jess about going to the zoo and can barely look at Olivia 5 minutes later.
      Frederick: the one who gets into a shouting match with Sarah and really loses it when she says “I know what you really are...” (an improvised line by Rebecca Hall by the way which is really cool) and even more heartbreaking to see Albert (as Fallon) picking up Jess sweetly while she cries.
      Frederick: the one who tries to win back Olivia after Sarah’s suicide, assuring he never loved Sarah.
      Albert: “They do this after every show? We’re done. I don’t need his trick. The two of us, we’ll just leave him alone. We’re done.”
      Albert: the one at the end who kills Angier and picks up Jess from Cutter.
      So props to Christian Bale for subtly portraying 2 different people that’s obvious after many viewings but subtle enough to not spoil it for someone’s first time watching. And it becomes clear that between Angier, Albert and Frederick, 2 of the 3 were “bad” and one was good. Albert was kind, a good father, a wonderful magician, but not obsessed, didn’t kill Julia, and by the end, just wanted to be there for his daughter. Anyway, I thought maybe this would help some of you who didn’t understand parts of the movie to enjoy it more. The Prestige is a masterpiece.

    • @jamanabharath7614
      @jamanabharath7614 2 роки тому +1

      @@thedarkknight9153 well explained mate. Took me a while to understand who's who.

    • @dirt_xo
      @dirt_xo Рік тому

      @@thedarkknight9153 still nof sure about the bullet catch scene. I have a feeling it's Freddy that gets his finger blown off for some reason. Yk what I mean.

  • @LAmotionPics
    @LAmotionPics 11 років тому +7

    abra-ca-da-bra...*pop

  • @777TRUTHSPOKEN
    @777TRUTHSPOKEN Місяць тому

    DEATH AND LIFE ARE IN THE POWER OF THE TONGUE THEY THAT LOVE IT SHALL EAT THE FRUIT THEREOF PROVERBS 18:21 KJV THOSE WHO'S NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE WERE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE FOREVER KJV

  • @carlosoomano
    @carlosoomano 7 днів тому

    2:18 - but she wouldnt play beer pong 😏

  • @umutkeiyinci19
    @umutkeiyinci19 2 роки тому

    15 fps