For anyone interested in scaling figures: if you scale epic up by 186% (6mm to 11.2mm) or regular 40k to 40% (28mm to 11.2mm), you'll end up with "metric" minis. The 11mm size is based on converting imperial to metric (28mm * (10/25) = 11.2mm); what this means is that with 11.2mm minis you can play standard 28mm games using metric instead of imperial measurements on smaller coffee table sized boards, or play large size games on full sized tables using standard imperial measurements without the game feeling cluttered by overly large models that can't fit around terrain. It's basically the perfect intermediary scale.
This is one of the reasons that 3d printers are such a massive boon for wargamers and table-top gamers in general. The fact that you don't have to be constrained to the scale gaming minis come in if you have limited space opens up the hobby to a lot more people. Sure, the printer itself does take up space, but your average beginner resin printer (such as an Elegoo Mars) has a much smaller footprint than the cases you would need to store a typical 40K army. And once the initial investment in the printer is paid, it's a far more economic way to get into a miniature game. The only real drawback is the time it takes to print the minis, but if you're painting your minis in batches rather than all at once, you'll likely be painting one set while another is printing anyway. And it's relatively easy to adjust your scale to whatever you want. All STL files can be scaled to what you need in your slicer program before printing, just be sure to keep note of how much you scale a mini by, so you can make sure everything matches up. Honestly, the hardest part would be deciding what scale to convert the rules to. Will you just cut the scale in half and divide all the distances by two? Or convert inches to centimeters and make everything a third of the size? It really depends on how small you want to go, and how small your printer will still be able to print at. Personally, I feel converting inches to centimeters is a good place to start, since you can scale down your models to 33% easy enough, and most tailor's measuring tapes (which are perfect for wargames) have both inches and centimeters already.
Starting playing 15mm historical (ADLG) a couple of years ago and really enjoy the scale, plus 120x180mm is all the space you need for full 200-300pt games.
Honestly, it makes so much more sense for TTRPGs. Being able to create sprawling cities or environments in 10 or 15mm and populating it with civilians or swarms of enemies on a coffee table rather than a 6x4 makes so much more sense for the layman gamer or GM who wants to tell a story on a smaller space and budget.
Tiny Warhammer is the best way to play Warhammer in my opinion. I have been printing and playing both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k in 15mm scale ever since I was inspired to do so after watching your first 'Make Warhammer Tiny' video, it's great. I would love to see you do even more of these Tiny Warhammer videos.
That's awesome to hear. Do you convert the 6x4 table down to 3x2? And do you go from inches to centimeters? I'm sure that's not a perfect 1 to 1 ratio but seems like that's what most people do and it works
@@control745 Yes, I play on a 3x2 table. I convert inches to centimetres for measuring. The other thing that I do is use flame and blast templates that are printed to be half the size of regular templates.
@@darekdariusz8910 There are a few sculptors on Patreon that we use. Most of our models are actually Warmaster models designed by ForestDragon, scaled up 125% to fit on 10mm bases. They come presupported and print perfectly for Tiny Warhammer.
"Ah, the sponsored segment. I wonder which modelling products company it is?" *Watches Luke cooking for several minutes in quiet disbelief* I was looking at Stroganoff's Battlestrider model this week, it's a glorious model. I note they recommended 133% scaling to get from Epic to Adeptus Titanicus scale.
@@GeekGamingScenics it seemed like longer... Mind you, given the average gamer's...er... silhouette (mine included), a few healthy eating tips wouldn't go amiss.
Love the 15mm scale. I use the Forest Dragon warmaster 3d files and print them at 150%. This makes great 15mm fantasy armies. For me 15 mm is perfect just enough detail not to big not to small.
Guy's guest spots really cracked me up 😂😂😂 Those 12mm Space Marines are the absolute canem testiculorum 😍😍😍😍 4:01 The Roadies tucking in to their Full English. The Happy Luke Dance at the end is the icing on an excellent cake.
Nice idea. So much more accessible than standard 40k. the latest 40k apocalypse rules work really well on a smaller scale if you want something in between standard 40k and Epic in terms of army sizes.
This is fantastic! I love the size of the tanks and knights. Something about them being the size of a matchbox car is just so appealing. The only thing missing from the set are tiny dice.
Wholeheartedly agree - smaller game footprints make this hobby far more accessible. Wish I'd discovered the joys of 15mm earlier; just treat centimetres as inches and suddenly you can pack multiple boards into a suitcase. And STILL have space for clothes! I've now got an old art box with two boards set up inside, and am working in a set of 36 10x10cm modular tiles which can pack into a small briefcase. That's three different biomes fitting into the space of four 28mm buildings. Can't see myself going back
Good point on accessibility. Outside of cost, it's far easier for someone to get into something they can put away on a shelf or in a closet. 40k has gotten physically larger (scale creep) and larger in scale itself (larger armies, larger warmachines, etc). It's intimidating and all of those larger size and number of models take up more and more space. I live in a small place, and having an option like this means it's easier for me to consider about than having to make a giant table and shelving beyond shelving for my models.
@@ScooterinAB Agreed, it's wonderful having stuff that can fit entirely into a regular cupboard! Or even a shoebox. When I go holidaying, my collection of 70ish minis for skirmish campaigning can fit safely packed into three screws and bolts storage compartments. Smaller scales mean terrain doesn't have to be so exquisitely detailed, so can be less intimidating to make. There's more scope for indicative scenery without having to match the larger, more intricate kits which have become the norm.
Absolutely love how you fit a entire game board into a picture frame. There is no reason to have to have some monstrous game table large scale destruction in the grim dark universe
I really like that as well. It's semi-rigid, contained, and more easily stored than a full table. I just lost my play space and have been thinking about making a table myself, but I live in a small space and can't have something that large laying around.
Ah this was excellent and brings back memories, a friend and I used to wage a huge 40k Epic warfront on wallpaper folding tables in a local village hall over two days. Alas the figures are currently residing in the loft perhaps this will prompt a dining table battle with my daughter as a commander.
This is the most excited I've been about a project in forever. Adeptus was my first 40K experience way back in 1989, and I've been looking for that feeling ever since without the tedious little Epic figures or the gigantic amount of floor space. Watching this made me feel like I was 15 again.
I'm down sizing my 20mm Early WWII to 6mm and an entire army fits into a box folder, and at Phalanx the other month a chap there was down sizing all his historical to 10mm from Pendraken. 6mm looks fantastic on a table.
Games workshop should adopt 3d printing fully. Especially since what you did was more or less "illegal" by GW's understanding. Whatever doe it's just plastic.
Tiny Boardgaming becomes more and more appealing to me. I play Age of Fantasy Regiments with Warmaster Stripes and somehow due to the smaller regiment size, it feels a lot more epic. And yes, you can use smaller boards, less time to paint and assembly and field larger armies. Can't wait for my 3D printer, it is a follow-up model to yours, so I hope it will perform well with the 10mm scale.
Absolutely brill mate, love it! This is exactly what I've always been about with this hobby - making it your own. Your models, your gaming table, your rules. The fact you made it all so it just 'folds away' into your living room is completely genius. Play on Sir!
ok now that is COOL!!! Love the tiny tanks and marines. One of the cool ideas from this is that you don't have to paint forever and edge highlight like a maniac - you can knock them out and get gaming in no time! Great concept guys! :):)
Way back around White Dwarf 213 to 220 era (late 1990's) there was an article/letter published where 2 people had magnetized their epic models and created a small scale travel board and game to play 40k on a tiny epic scale when on long road trips. This very much reminds me of that, barring the magnetized board and models. The flip side of your approach is to collect squads of the large scale plastic action figure space marines and play on very large scaled playing areas (backyards have a wealth of natural terrain) but that aside, I love how you've got this mix of 3D printed models and GW models mixed in - that quiet equal ground between 3D printing everything and enjoying existing models without just ripping them off completely.
I chose 25mm (1/72) scale for my gaming for this reason, and all terrain is modular. I do have a 8'x4' board, however the legs fold and it can be stored against the wall out of the way when needed. All my gaming mats are on a rolling closet rod hanger, custom made, on wheels, that can be easily moved out of the way. All my models and terrain are on a shelf unit on wheels that can also be wheeled out of the way as needed. Only down side is that everything is more or less hidden and I can't sit and oogle at everything.
Great idea! I've just started printing epic models, but think I might need to move house soon and get rid of a lot of gaming stuff. Smaller scales will be my way forward too!
This is an amazing idea. I love coffee table scale games and it makes me want to get a 3D printer, not sure my wife would approve haha. Also, loving the zoom functionality 🤣
That's an awesome and inspirational project guys. I must admit, I'm pretty tempted by scaled down Warhammer at the moment. Heck I'm still half tempted by Epic too. I've had a load of old Epic miniatures lying around and thought I could scratch both the itch for small scale and Horus Heresy at the same time. Thanks for another fun video, carry on and take care ;)
Always loved epic scale. And Titanicus is in scale to the old tanks and epic stuff. Glad I kept all my collections. Personally I think Heresy shoulda been epic scale.
I done a similar thing back in 3rd edition 40k. I used epic Eldar and Space Marines from epic and scalped down the board to an equivalent 4x4 to play small games. I used cork board and green felt. This allowed to scenery (hills, woods etc) stick to the felt base as I based the with felt. It turned out it was perfect for a 40k board while traveling on a train as stuff didn't slip around and was small enough to pack up in a small box afterwards. The playing area was 48cm squared. Ranges were in cm rather than inches.
I had a game once using epic armies and 40K rules. It was EPIC! One of my favourite parts was whe an ork buggy took damage, went out of countrol, flew past a couple of marine squads, hit the front of a land raider and exploded. The land raider took no damage and just drove over the buggy wreckage :) Took days to play it though...
Could you tell us witch models you used? I love the idea of smaller sized warhammer and one of the first things ill do with my 3D-printer (get it next week) is printing some downscaled armies for 40k and Fantasy.
I am absolutely on your side! Hope to see more content from you on that scale... I loved Dropzone Commander back in the good old days. And with 3D printing you can easily convert nearly everything into a smaller size!
Best Games I've ever played is Epic Spacmarine on a Coffee Table ... That's real 30k !!! ... Big Games Small Table.. It's just like the Old School Art work .. The rules were very Good as well . ✌️💚
This is fantastic. If your trying to get friends started into Warhammer, or want 40k travel edition this is perfect. 1 day of prep for just as much fun is awsome and way more enticing for those who aren't already invested
i've been playing 10mm kings of war for years and for me it's not the expense, although that is significant and who doesn't want to save money when you can! no, it's the feel. there's something about the scope of playing with really small pieces that makes the whole endeavour feel really cinematic in a way normal 28mm doesn't. it's hard to explain but just about everyone i've ever played with at smaller scales notices the difference in feel to the games. because it takes up so much less space it also allows for experimenting with interesting options- for example we sometimes play with more realistic missile weapon ranges. we usually extend the magic range out the same as missile weapons just for fun. you'd be amazed at what a difference having so much more room makes.
G'day Luke! MAAAATE. This is awesoome! I can imagine something like this for a Travel Kill Team using magnets to stick them to the gameboard (being an A4 magnetic sheet) . Love it! Well done, mate!
So this video popped up in my feed this morning. And as someone who hasn't played Warhammer in 8+ years(specifically the lord of the rings side of Warhammer), this is an amazing way to get back into the franchise. Having them at 15mm, and having the game so portable is awesome! Now I need to find friends to play with 🤔 just subbed to your channel brotha !!
Before watching this video, I was never too interested in smaller scale warhammer or minis. Maybe it was I just saw some small scale minis that weren't my taste or something else, but what y'all showed has now got me interested. The scaling of minis in a 3D printer definitely makes it more likeable to me, so I can still choose the minis I want but at a different scale, and the paint jobs and terrain look wonderful. I may give it a try. Keep up the great work!
Imagine the amount of tiny killteams you could print/paint at that scale! TOTALLY agree with the convenience scale and being able to store it away easily :)
I’ve been seeing quite a few smaller scale games being created on purpose built small gaming tables. I think this is awesome and is just perfect for anyone with a small space, something a 6x4 table would be too large for. And as you said, you can put a couple of these smaller gaming tables together to make any size you need for a game. Thanks for sharing this with us, I have lots of ideas now and the wall will look better with them as well! Oh, I’m from New Zealand so the fact you actually have ready basing based on New Zealand terrain is just the bees knees! Gonna track me some down!
For me scaling down is not only great for playing larger games and armies with less space being taken but also if I can scale down and use this for dioramas which would be great so I can use 1/72-76 scale modeling kits with them.
I love it, I'm building a 15mm Battletech game at the moment for the same reasons, plus I like Battletech to be more of combined arms so 15mm Mechs aren't too big (about the size of a Dread in 40k) but infantry aren't just a 25mm base with some blobs on it either 😄 I've always liked the idea of doing something like WHFB (or KoW) at a much smaller scale so you still get the granularity but alot more happens because you can afford more than 3-4 regiments (or that's how it was when we were playing more than 20 years ago, hell, 25 years ago...) and when you're playing it doesn't always have to be the same units either because it's quick to paint up a new one to have options. Brilliant idea, and I reckon my BT board will be in a picture frame too.
I would like to see at least one battle record with these miniatures. This thumbnail size is absolutely perfect and would be sufficient for me. A classic game of Warhammer 40K does not fit on my table. This is a beautiful combination of board game and wargaming. :)
15(ish)mm is the perfect size for the 6x4 boards. 32mm on a 6x4 board looks and plays ridiculously.. No tactics, just IGO-UGO, slide my guys towards you, you slide towards me... it's crappy. When you shrink down, it opens up different kinds of games you'd never be able to play with standard geedubs stuff. Great vid. Hope it becomes a series!
I love the idea! After living in an apartment for years, I needed to figure out how to enjoy the hobby without taking up too much space. I started scaling down my Black Powder games to 6mm miniatures and I'm planning on doing the same with Bolt Action, using my spare Flames of War models. But scaling down is definitely the best option to enjoy large scale games and still get the effect and playability that you want in a wargame. In fact this video is making me reconsider playing 40K again. Damn you Luke! I swore never to play 40K again and here you are tempting me to the Darkside. 😆
Great ideas! I love the secret game board too. It reminds me of Thunderbirds, when at the press of a button the furniture in the room turns upside down and inside out; from a comfy lounge to mission central - HQ ))
im actually in the middle of making a massive urban coffee table board. its the minimum GW table size for 500 pts. but its covered in 3-5 story tall buildings in a tight urban layout, the two halfs end up being 1.5'x2' and are meant to sit on either side of my TV when im not playing as displays for my two armies. the whole idea is you can sit on the couch while you play. it took almost a year to print all of the parts for just the buildings...
I am very tempted to make a travel version of 30K/40K with the new Legions Imperialis models. You could have a 2'x1' board with a hinge, so that it folds up into a 1' square, and that would be to scale an 8' x 4' board. have it metal backed, mount all the Nu-Epic models onto magnets (or use a cork board and mount the models onto push pins), and you now have a very portable version of the game.
I've got a 20mm 30k project In the making. Iove how much less space I need for terrain etc. At 20mm I can use standard 28mm and scale down without losing a ton of details (for most models).
So cool to see someone else doing this too! I made Marines versus Orks and replayed Battle At The Farm but with a few additional units. I used One Page Rules and it was fast and fun. Also started printing off some downscaled 'Robot Legions' from OPR. Like you I used Tinkercad which is so easy to use. The whole setup is also really portable - army in a Lunchbox. Thanks for the video :-)
I'm all about tiny. It lets the players be closer, and in a way, the small scale forces you to shrink down your focus onto that tiny world, making it more immersive. I'm working on my Saurian Army for One Page Rules next!
Absolutely amazing. This is 100% what we need in the hobby. I could actually get into 40k gaming if I could just slap together an army like this, throw it into an organizing case, and go game on someone's coffee table. I absolutely can't fathom why Warhammer hasn't formally supported something like this yet, it would generate a ton of business
I love this idea. I remember reading an old White Dwarf article on "travel 40k." Epic looks fun, but the models are too small to appreciate and the battles too large in scale for my liking. This is a perfect example of what I also like, and I've been looking for ideas like this to feel out what to do for myself.
Very nice work! We did the same in my club, but we scaled them down to suit cm, instead of inches. So a space marine base is now 1 cm wide, instead of 1 inch.
The tiny scale definatly makes sense for titans. Getting a titan the size of a person is insane. The warhammer scale is good for DND so you can have enough detail to see but small enough not too much space if you get a reasonable number of minis.
~15mm miniatures make sooooo much more sense for 40K, and still use inches for distance but cm for move. Great job with the frame being able to be hung on a wall too. I saw a space hulk game once using 6mm figures, it fit in like a shoe polish can and was pretty neat, but a bit small still.
You should give a game called Dropzone Commander a look. It's a 10mm wargame that I've found myself loving, and scratches that itch for a small, yet large, battle. Though it's still a wargame so you'll need a decent size table. but still, think it's worth the look
This is amazing, as soon as I saw this I started printing epic scale marines at 186% (saw a comment that explained that is the metric system scale) and it's awesome, wife and me are planing to print and paint 2, 1000 point armies to start playing with this.
For anyone interested in scaling figures: if you scale epic up by 186% (6mm to 11.2mm) or regular 40k to 40% (28mm to 11.2mm), you'll end up with "metric" minis. The 11mm size is based on converting imperial to metric (28mm * (10/25) = 11.2mm); what this means is that with 11.2mm minis you can play standard 28mm games using metric instead of imperial measurements on smaller coffee table sized boards, or play large size games on full sized tables using standard imperial measurements without the game feeling cluttered by overly large models that can't fit around terrain. It's basically the perfect intermediary scale.
Very useful comment, sir. Very appreciated.
Or about 40% of a standard scale warhammer model, making ranges of 1 inch equal to 1 centimeter.
Thanks
I was thinking that as well. I'm just worse at math than you are. :P
Just saw this and that is awesome, thank you sir, will do.
This is one of the reasons that 3d printers are such a massive boon for wargamers and table-top gamers in general. The fact that you don't have to be constrained to the scale gaming minis come in if you have limited space opens up the hobby to a lot more people. Sure, the printer itself does take up space, but your average beginner resin printer (such as an Elegoo Mars) has a much smaller footprint than the cases you would need to store a typical 40K army. And once the initial investment in the printer is paid, it's a far more economic way to get into a miniature game. The only real drawback is the time it takes to print the minis, but if you're painting your minis in batches rather than all at once, you'll likely be painting one set while another is printing anyway.
And it's relatively easy to adjust your scale to whatever you want. All STL files can be scaled to what you need in your slicer program before printing, just be sure to keep note of how much you scale a mini by, so you can make sure everything matches up. Honestly, the hardest part would be deciding what scale to convert the rules to. Will you just cut the scale in half and divide all the distances by two? Or convert inches to centimeters and make everything a third of the size? It really depends on how small you want to go, and how small your printer will still be able to print at. Personally, I feel converting inches to centimeters is a good place to start, since you can scale down your models to 33% easy enough, and most tailor's measuring tapes (which are perfect for wargames) have both inches and centimeters already.
As a historical gamer, it's great seeing smaller scales make inroads into sci-fi and fantasy. Love it
My favorite part of FoW was the 15mm scale, feels very epic and fun
Starting playing 15mm historical (ADLG) a couple of years ago and really enjoy the scale, plus 120x180mm is all the space you need for full 200-300pt games.
Honestly, it makes so much more sense for TTRPGs. Being able to create sprawling cities or environments in 10 or 15mm and populating it with civilians or swarms of enemies on a coffee table rather than a 6x4 makes so much more sense for the layman gamer or GM who wants to tell a story on a smaller space and budget.
Shame that it had to be tied to the GW IP, when there’s loads of independent manufacturers for sci-fi in 6,10 and 15mm
Is it possible to download 3d printing materials for 15mm historical models (especially ancient and medieval) somewhere?
Love it, the armies and terrain is smashing guys. For someone who doesn’t have much space, this is a brilliant way to play.
Tiny Warhammer is the best way to play Warhammer in my opinion. I have been printing and playing both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k in 15mm scale ever since I was inspired to do so after watching your first 'Make Warhammer Tiny' video, it's great. I would love to see you do even more of these Tiny Warhammer videos.
That's awesome to hear. Do you convert the 6x4 table down to 3x2? And do you go from inches to centimeters? I'm sure that's not a perfect 1 to 1 ratio but seems like that's what most people do and it works
@@control745 Yes, I play on a 3x2 table. I convert inches to centimetres for measuring. The other thing that I do is use flame and blast templates that are printed to be half the size of regular templates.
Wher can I find 3d files?
My group has started doing this too! We play on 3x2 and in cm as well. It works perfectly.
@@darekdariusz8910 There are a few sculptors on Patreon that we use. Most of our models are actually Warmaster models designed by ForestDragon, scaled up 125% to fit on 10mm bases. They come presupported and print perfectly for Tiny Warhammer.
Those tiny space marines look so damn cute lol, and getting an army done in a day has got to be satisfying.
I love it. This is my new obsession after years of playing traditional 40k/fantasy. So accessible and can play on any kitchen table
"Ah, the sponsored segment. I wonder which modelling products company it is?"
*Watches Luke cooking for several minutes in quiet disbelief*
I was looking at Stroganoff's Battlestrider model this week, it's a glorious model. I note they recommended 133% scaling to get from Epic to Adeptus Titanicus scale.
@@GeekGamingScenics it seemed like longer...
Mind you, given the average gamer's...er... silhouette (mine included), a few healthy eating tips wouldn't go amiss.
Man, love this. Hope you continue this series - lots of us dislike that wargaming takes so much space and this is just about the perfect format.
Love the 15mm scale.
I use the Forest Dragon warmaster 3d files and print them at 150%.
This makes great 15mm fantasy armies.
For me 15 mm is perfect just enough detail not to big not to small.
Same, FD minis are great and scale well.
Where can I find this 3d files?
@@darekdariusz8910 Forest Dragon
Same dude 🤣
Our local club does this alot, a big thing they do is play the current rules of 40k but change all ranges to CM and works perfectly
hell yea dude
Guy's guest spots really cracked me up 😂😂😂
Those 12mm Space Marines are the absolute canem testiculorum 😍😍😍😍
4:01 The Roadies tucking in to their Full English.
The Happy Luke Dance at the end is the icing on an excellent cake.
the bollocks' dog?
Nice idea. So much more accessible than standard 40k. the latest 40k apocalypse rules work really well on a smaller scale if you want something in between standard 40k and Epic in terms of army sizes.
This is fantastic! I love the size of the tanks and knights. Something about them being the size of a matchbox car is just so appealing. The only thing missing from the set are tiny dice.
You can get 50 8mm dice from Ali like I did
Wholeheartedly agree - smaller game footprints make this hobby far more accessible. Wish I'd discovered the joys of 15mm earlier; just treat centimetres as inches and suddenly you can pack multiple boards into a suitcase. And STILL have space for clothes!
I've now got an old art box with two boards set up inside, and am working in a set of 36 10x10cm modular tiles which can pack into a small briefcase. That's three different biomes fitting into the space of four 28mm buildings. Can't see myself going back
Good point on accessibility. Outside of cost, it's far easier for someone to get into something they can put away on a shelf or in a closet. 40k has gotten physically larger (scale creep) and larger in scale itself (larger armies, larger warmachines, etc). It's intimidating and all of those larger size and number of models take up more and more space. I live in a small place, and having an option like this means it's easier for me to consider about than having to make a giant table and shelving beyond shelving for my models.
@@ScooterinAB Agreed, it's wonderful having stuff that can fit entirely into a regular cupboard! Or even a shoebox. When I go holidaying, my collection of 70ish minis for skirmish campaigning can fit safely packed into three screws and bolts storage compartments.
Smaller scales mean terrain doesn't have to be so exquisitely detailed, so can be less intimidating to make. There's more scope for indicative scenery without having to match the larger, more intricate kits which have become the norm.
I'm not one for giving professionals unsollicited advice, but DEFINITELY more puppy shots in the future.
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Absolutely love how you fit a entire game board into a picture frame. There is no reason to have to have some monstrous game table large scale destruction in the grim dark universe
I really like that as well. It's semi-rigid, contained, and more easily stored than a full table. I just lost my play space and have been thinking about making a table myself, but I live in a small space and can't have something that large laying around.
Ah this was excellent and brings back memories, a friend and I used to wage a huge 40k Epic warfront on wallpaper folding tables in a local village hall over two days. Alas the figures are currently residing in the loft perhaps this will prompt a dining table battle with my daughter as a commander.
Scrabble tiles as floor tiles is pretty clever
Love this a lot, and specially the table on the back of a picture was sheer genius
This is the most excited I've been about a project in forever. Adeptus was my first 40K experience way back in 1989, and I've been looking for that feeling ever since without the tedious little Epic figures or the gigantic amount of floor space. Watching this made me feel like I was 15 again.
I really like this scale at first I thought you were doing epic size but was surprised how good this scale is 👍👍👍
Really cool idea, size does really impact accessibility and travel options.
Those letter pieces from the works are a great idea for tiles, looks fantastic!
I absolutely love this and the economical use of space this scale offers in addition to the reduced painting load.
Having your gaming board double as a poster on the wall was the cherry on this cake for me. Nicely done!
Spraying and dremelling that board on the glass garden table hurt me inside, but apart from that, great episode!! Love it!
This is straight up lovely. The terrain looks really nice with the turquoise and the browns/yellows, really different from the greys we often see
I'm down sizing my 20mm Early WWII to 6mm and an entire army fits into a box folder, and at Phalanx the other month a chap there was down sizing all his historical to 10mm from Pendraken. 6mm looks fantastic on a table.
One of your best videos so far for me. You content is getting smarter and more practical with time!
Games workshop should adopt 3d printing fully. Especially since what you did was more or less "illegal" by GW's understanding. Whatever doe it's just plastic.
I used to be into the big games on big tables but these days I am preferring small games on small tables just like yourself. This is a good idea
Tiny Boardgaming becomes more and more appealing to me. I play Age of Fantasy Regiments with Warmaster Stripes and somehow due to the smaller regiment size, it feels a lot more epic. And yes, you can use smaller boards, less time to paint and assembly and field larger armies. Can't wait for my 3D printer, it is a follow-up model to yours, so I hope it will perform well with the 10mm scale.
Absolutely brill mate, love it! This is exactly what I've always been about with this hobby - making it your own. Your models, your gaming table, your rules.
The fact you made it all so it just 'folds away' into your living room is completely genius. Play on Sir!
ok now that is COOL!!! Love the tiny tanks and marines. One of the cool ideas from this is that you don't have to paint forever and edge highlight like a maniac - you can knock them out and get gaming in no time!
Great concept guys! :):)
Way back around White Dwarf 213 to 220 era (late 1990's) there was an article/letter published where 2 people had magnetized their epic models and created a small scale travel board and game to play 40k on a tiny epic scale when on long road trips. This very much reminds me of that, barring the magnetized board and models. The flip side of your approach is to collect squads of the large scale plastic action figure space marines and play on very large scaled playing areas (backyards have a wealth of natural terrain) but that aside, I love how you've got this mix of 3D printed models and GW models mixed in - that quiet equal ground between 3D printing everything and enjoying existing models without just ripping them off completely.
Love this!
Really like the idea of doing this as a way of trying out new games!
Mate love your videos and products. As a veteran it helps a lot with my mental health and modelling too. Keep the great work going
I love the idea of printing out scaled down 40K/30K basically makes it a transportable board game
I chose 25mm (1/72) scale for my gaming for this reason, and all terrain is modular.
I do have a 8'x4' board, however the legs fold and it can be stored against the wall out of the way when needed.
All my gaming mats are on a rolling closet rod hanger, custom made, on wheels, that can be easily moved out of the way.
All my models and terrain are on a shelf unit on wheels that can also be wheeled out of the way as needed.
Only down side is that everything is more or less hidden and I can't sit and oogle at everything.
Great idea! I've just started printing epic models, but think I might need to move house soon and get rid of a lot of gaming stuff. Smaller scales will be my way forward too!
This is an amazing idea. I love coffee table scale games and it makes me want to get a 3D printer, not sure my wife would approve haha. Also, loving the zoom functionality 🤣
That's an awesome and inspirational project guys.
I must admit, I'm pretty tempted by scaled down Warhammer at the moment.
Heck I'm still half tempted by Epic too. I've had a load of old Epic miniatures lying around and thought I could scratch both the itch for small scale and Horus Heresy at the same time.
Thanks for another fun video, carry on and take care ;)
Great work, I am forever shrinking miniatures down to 15mm or even 6mm , fits nicely on the kitchen table
Always loved epic scale. And Titanicus is in scale to the old tanks and epic stuff. Glad I kept all my collections. Personally I think Heresy shoulda been epic scale.
If by in scale you mean 25% out of scale then you are correct
Loved this, I agree that smaller scale can be a lot more fun and accessible.
I think the whole thing is brilliant! The finishing touch was the two sided gaming board/poster--WoW!!
I done a similar thing back in 3rd edition 40k. I used epic Eldar and Space Marines from epic and scalped down the board to an equivalent 4x4 to play small games. I used cork board and green felt. This allowed to scenery (hills, woods etc) stick to the felt base as I based the with felt. It turned out it was perfect for a 40k board while traveling on a train as stuff didn't slip around and was small enough to pack up in a small box afterwards. The playing area was 48cm squared. Ranges were in cm rather than inches.
I had a game once using epic armies and 40K rules. It was EPIC!
One of my favourite parts was whe an ork buggy took damage, went out of countrol, flew past a couple of marine squads, hit the front of a land raider and exploded. The land raider took no damage and just drove over the buggy wreckage :)
Took days to play it though...
Could you tell us witch models you used? I love the idea of smaller sized warhammer and one of the first things ill do with my 3D-printer (get it next week) is printing some downscaled armies for 40k and Fantasy.
I love that it just...sits on the wall there. You wouldnt even know, and its a friggin warhammer poster too! :D really great choices all around.
I am absolutely on your side!
Hope to see more content from you on that scale... I loved Dropzone Commander back in the good old days.
And with 3D printing you can easily convert nearly everything into a smaller size!
Epic 40K was the best. I really wish they would pull the trigger and bring back the great Ork and Eldar warmachines.
Love this! Exactly what I'm looking to do. Glad to see someone else doing it!!
Best Games I've ever played is Epic Spacmarine on a Coffee Table ... That's real 30k !!! ... Big Games Small Table.. It's just like the Old School Art work .. The rules were very Good as well . ✌️💚
Yes, I am not the only one rescaling before printing thankfully, they called me mad...
Love you and your partner's collaborations together! Great boards!
This is fantastic. If your trying to get friends started into Warhammer, or want 40k travel edition this is perfect.
1 day of prep for just as much fun is awsome and way more enticing for those who aren't already invested
i've been playing 10mm kings of war for years and for me it's not the expense, although that is significant and who doesn't want to save money when you can! no, it's the feel. there's something about the scope of playing with really small pieces that makes the whole endeavour feel really cinematic in a way normal 28mm doesn't. it's hard to explain but just about everyone i've ever played with at smaller scales notices the difference in feel to the games.
because it takes up so much less space it also allows for experimenting with interesting options- for example we sometimes play with more realistic missile weapon ranges. we usually extend the magic range out the same as missile weapons just for fun. you'd be amazed at what a difference having so much more room makes.
G'day Luke! MAAAATE. This is awesoome! I can imagine something like this for a
Travel Kill Team using magnets to stick them to the gameboard (being an A4 magnetic sheet) . Love it! Well done, mate!
So this video popped up in my feed this morning. And as someone who hasn't played Warhammer in 8+ years(specifically the lord of the rings side of Warhammer), this is an amazing way to get back into the franchise. Having them at 15mm, and having the game so portable is awesome! Now I need to find friends to play with 🤔 just subbed to your channel brotha !!
Best thing ever. I just finished working on some 15mm AOS and it is fantastic fun and much easier to store / much cheaper / much faster to paint.
Before watching this video, I was never too interested in smaller scale warhammer or minis. Maybe it was I just saw some small scale minis that weren't my taste or something else, but what y'all showed has now got me interested. The scaling of minis in a 3D printer definitely makes it more likeable to me, so I can still choose the minis I want but at a different scale, and the paint jobs and terrain look wonderful. I may give it a try. Keep up the great work!
This sort of miniaturization is fantastic looking. It's just so cute and neat. Great work there!
I love your job. I started GW games in 1993 with "space marines" 6mm scale (became "Epic" a few years later) and that was the spirit you describe.
Imagine the amount of tiny killteams you could print/paint at that scale! TOTALLY agree with the convenience scale and being able to store it away easily :)
I’ve been seeing quite a few smaller scale games being created on purpose built small gaming tables. I think this is awesome and is just perfect for anyone with a small space, something a 6x4 table would be too large for. And as you said, you can put a couple of these smaller gaming tables together to make any size you need for a game. Thanks for sharing this with us, I have lots of ideas now and the wall will look better with them as well! Oh, I’m from New Zealand so the fact you actually have ready basing based on New Zealand terrain is just the bees knees! Gonna track me some down!
Way better than 28 / 30mm. You did it all so incredibly well - 10/10
Love it! Lacking enough space for those huge boards and terrain pieces for full scale warhammer was always a big detergent from hobby
The picture frame board is a genius level move.
For me scaling down is not only great for playing larger games and armies with less space being taken but also if I can scale down and use this for dioramas which would be great so I can use 1/72-76 scale modeling kits with them.
I love it, I'm building a 15mm Battletech game at the moment for the same reasons, plus I like Battletech to be more of combined arms so 15mm Mechs aren't too big (about the size of a Dread in 40k) but infantry aren't just a 25mm base with some blobs on it either 😄 I've always liked the idea of doing something like WHFB (or KoW) at a much smaller scale so you still get the granularity but alot more happens because you can afford more than 3-4 regiments (or that's how it was when we were playing more than 20 years ago, hell, 25 years ago...) and when you're playing it doesn't always have to be the same units either because it's quick to paint up a new one to have options. Brilliant idea, and I reckon my BT board will be in a picture frame too.
I would like to see at least one battle record with these miniatures. This thumbnail size is absolutely perfect and would be sufficient for me. A classic game of Warhammer 40K does not fit on my table. This is a beautiful combination of board game and wargaming. :)
15(ish)mm is the perfect size for the 6x4 boards. 32mm on a 6x4 board looks and plays ridiculously.. No tactics, just IGO-UGO, slide my guys towards you, you slide towards me... it's crappy. When you shrink down, it opens up different kinds of games you'd never be able to play with standard geedubs stuff. Great vid. Hope it becomes a series!
That is amazing, it looks great and it stows away conveniently. Pure genius.
I love the idea! After living in an apartment for years, I needed to figure out how to enjoy the hobby without taking up too much space. I started scaling down my Black Powder games to 6mm miniatures and I'm planning on doing the same with Bolt Action, using my spare Flames of War models. But scaling down is definitely the best option to enjoy large scale games and still get the effect and playability that you want in a wargame.
In fact this video is making me reconsider playing 40K again. Damn you Luke! I swore never to play 40K again and here you are tempting me to the Darkside. 😆
Great ideas!
I love the secret game board too. It reminds me of Thunderbirds, when at the press of a button the furniture in the room turns upside down and inside out; from a comfy lounge to mission central - HQ ))
Absolutely love it. Totally sold. Huge fan. I echo your comments to the letter and been unsure how to phrase it until I found your video.
Seriously one of the most interesting videos on hobby-tube in a while.
im actually in the middle of making a massive urban coffee table board. its the minimum GW table size for 500 pts. but its covered in 3-5 story tall buildings in a tight urban layout, the two halfs end up being 1.5'x2' and are meant to sit on either side of my TV when im not playing as displays for my two armies. the whole idea is you can sit on the couch while you play.
it took almost a year to print all of the parts for just the buildings...
I am very tempted to make a travel version of 30K/40K with the new Legions Imperialis models. You could have a 2'x1' board with a hinge, so that it folds up into a 1' square, and that would be to scale an 8' x 4' board. have it metal backed, mount all the Nu-Epic models onto magnets (or use a cork board and mount the models onto push pins), and you now have a very portable version of the game.
I've got a 20mm 30k project In the making. Iove how much less space I need for terrain etc. At 20mm I can use standard 28mm and scale down without losing a ton of details (for most models).
So cool to see someone else doing this too! I made Marines versus Orks and replayed Battle At The Farm but with a few additional units. I used One Page Rules and it was fast and fun. Also started printing off some downscaled 'Robot Legions' from OPR. Like you I used Tinkercad which is so easy to use. The whole setup is also really portable - army in a Lunchbox. Thanks for the video :-)
I'm all about tiny. It lets the players be closer, and in a way, the small scale forces you to shrink down your focus onto that tiny world, making it more immersive. I'm working on my Saurian Army for One Page Rules next!
Absolutely amazing. This is 100% what we need in the hobby. I could actually get into 40k gaming if I could just slap together an army like this, throw it into an organizing case, and go game on someone's coffee table. I absolutely can't fathom why Warhammer hasn't formally supported something like this yet, it would generate a ton of business
I love this idea. I remember reading an old White Dwarf article on "travel 40k." Epic looks fun, but the models are too small to appreciate and the battles too large in scale for my liking. This is a perfect example of what I also like, and I've been looking for ideas like this to feel out what to do for myself.
Laughed out loud at the midwinter minis titan call out
Been waiting for more small scale gaming!!!!!
Very nice work! We did the same in my club, but we scaled them down to suit cm, instead of inches. So a space marine base is now 1 cm wide, instead of 1 inch.
The tiny scale definatly makes sense for titans.
Getting a titan the size of a person is insane.
The warhammer scale is good for DND so you can have enough detail to see but small enough not too much space if you get a reasonable number of minis.
AKA "Tap Hammer". Luke I fucken love your philosophy about it fitting into your life when you want it the way you want it - I mean of course right!
I love the idea of making warhammer smaller scale, that is fantastic. I always liked the scale of Flames of War a lot too
God: How do you want your earlobes?
Lucas: Like a blown out roastie!
God: I got you fam.
I did the same thing with a spaceship game, I love playing games on a smaller table print.
I'm a big fan of this idea. Planning on doing it with warhammer fantasy at some point.
~15mm miniatures make sooooo much more sense for 40K, and still use inches for distance but cm for move. Great job with the frame being able to be hung on a wall too. I saw a space hulk game once using 6mm figures, it fit in like a shoe polish can and was pretty neat, but a bit small still.
You should give a game called Dropzone Commander a look. It's a 10mm wargame that I've found myself loving, and scratches that itch for a small, yet large, battle. Though it's still a wargame so you'll need a decent size table. but still, think it's worth the look
This is really inspired me, once I get a 3D printer I'm definitely gonna do a similar setup.
This is great! I did the same thing with Bolt Action... except I bought 15mm minis, didn't print them. But it works great and so much more accessible.
This is amazing, as soon as I saw this I started printing epic scale marines at 186% (saw a comment that explained that is the metric system scale) and it's awesome, wife and me are planing to print and paint 2, 1000 point armies to start playing with this.