Honda Grom Sprocket Upgrade for EASY Wheelies
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Are you bad at wheelies on the Honda Grom? Having a hard time getting it up? This little sprocket upgrade could be the answer to your problem!
Before I get into it, I feel like the Honda Grom should have came with a 14 tooth front sprocket from the factory. I'm still no pro like Fooligan, but it makes wheelies MUCH easier and gets you into the powerband faster for reaching balance point. I upgraded my Grom chain and sprocket with a Renthal Gold (Non) O Ring chain, and a JT Sprocket 14 tooth front sprocket. I picked up these two items at DROWSports along with a chain breaker from Harbor Freight.
In this video, I show you guys how to install the chain and Sprocket on the Grom as well as review the outcome. I do a before and after review of how the sprocket affected the ability to wheelie and the acceleration of the Grom. My 0-60 mph definitely increased on the lower end but slowed down the top speed. I show you how to easily remove the motorcycle chain and install the new one. The Gold Renthal chain looks extremely strong compared to the stock chain and hopefully won't stretch out as much while popping the clutch. Overall, I am extremely happy with the upgraded Grom parts and plan on more wheelie mods in the future.
For all your Grom parts needs, I recommend checking out DROWSports. These guys were super helpful when I was decided whether to go with the 13t Sprocket or the 14t.
www.drowsports...
Thanks for watching!
- ALLDAYANTHONY
Try changing to 6-60% stiffer clutch springs on the stock clutch plate first, and start to wheelie really slow like 2 to 5 MPH, that made a bigger difference for me learning to wheelie, I even tried a 13 tooth sprocket with the 6 stiffer springs and went back to the stock 15 tooth sprocket with stiffer springs and finally learned to wheelie!
Where can I buy stiffer clutch springs?
@@denniskomarov6826 Steady garage
Chains do stretch. I'm constantly adjusting, oiling and replacing the chain on my MSX SF.
I've fitted a 16 tooth front Drive sprocket with a 40 tooth rear Driven sprocket, both 420 pitch as is the standard chain.
Exhaust is OEM. However, with no cat..Cat is removed, straight tubing is fitted from the head to OEM back box.
Running front 30/70 rear 50/60 tyres.
3 inch extended swing arm with raised rear suspension.
No other mechanical mods, just a full body kit fitted.
A real head turner, sounding like a big bike.
Rides very smooth, high revving too with no power lose especially in 4th gear when running into a head wind or inclines.
Cheap and easy mods worth trying out.
The gear box is a crash box. No mod is needed. You can fly thru the gears. Great for fast get ups.
Tip.
Change the engine oil a lot more than recommended and oil and adjust the chain constantly!
Enjoy!
Get an O-ring chain...you just wipe it off after 400 to 700 miles then re-add 90 wt gear oil and wipe off all the excess that's it, no scrubbing or cleaning... they last much longer too, I haven't had to adjust mine in 6000 miles which is longer than the OEM chain lasted.
Towards the end of the OEM chain I was adjusting it every 200 to 250 miles.
I've noticed no difference in power and learned to wheelie with it...
John Dough do you wheelie tho?
I came up with a solution for the adjuster plates falling. It may have already existed but I didn't look it up so I'm taking credit for it. Duct tape to hold them up.
You should never use a torque wrench as a breaker bar you will mess up the calibration
Damn I didnt know this neither.. I used my torque wrench twice to break a nut, should I buy a new one?
Eric Litchfield very good to know. I used my dads before. 🥴
Jason it won’t mess it up if you set the torque so it doesn’t click before the bolt breaks free
@@simoncorriere8209 Just buy a breaker bar, it's like $5 at Harbor Freight
2 years but i use my breaker bar as a torque bar lol
Hey man just wanted to say I started watching your videos from your first upload today. You make great content, keep at it.
+Chris Searle thanks man I appreciate that!
14t is way better especially if your big guy like myself. It allows for more rpm in 4th and uphill torque. If you want to cheat doing wheelies, lower the rear tire pressure (within spec of tire manufacturer). I'm staying with the 14t front and going +3 in the rear. I hope first gear isn't too short. I will see. Nice video.
Did you end up doing that? If so, how did it go?
Love that way to measure the chain! GENIUS!!
It’s not the best way to do it at all. Why make your new chain the same as your old stretched out chain? Put the new chain on the bike and you can see exactly which link needs cut off.
Doing this mod because of your video. Mahalo!
Some pointers if you haven't learned wheelies yet
Don't be afraid of getting the front tire higher. The rear brake will save you if you go a little bit too far
Try to not chop the throttle in the wheelie, find the point where you can hover around to keep the wheel up
Bro I love this comment
I cant pop the clutch I’m doing it wrong any tips on a stock grom
Great video Bro!!! Got chain and sprocket ordered!!!! Grom On!!!!
Need this on my z125. Awesome video!
Lowering 1 tooth in the front equals going up 2 to 3 in the rear
I have stock gearing with an aftermarket exhaust and chimera cold air intake. I can pop second gear wheelies very easily as long as I sit back and pull on the bars. Even if I'm cruising around 5-6k rpms, I can still get it into balance point with a big enough clutch dump.
I have the same set up and I would like to see a video of this. What mph are you going?
@@charlesgarcia4928 Right now my grom is getting its ohlins forks installed and I still need to mount my gopro to my helmet. I don't really remember what mph it was, but as long as I was in the powerband it would work for me
bullshit
i also have trouble keeping it up, except i don't ride a motorcycle
Nice video, have u used gps to see how much top end speed you've lost?
why did you break torque with a torque wrench AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
1,000th like...
I am still deciding between GROM, TNT135, Z125 Pro as my next bike.... whichever one it will be, I am betting it happens before Christmas!
I have a 2015grom Wes has a 2020 z125pro Boone has a tnt135 we are all about the same I have a race video
Hey Anthony, great video. did you also do the stronger clutch springs as well or are you still running it like that?
Iv got a 2022 grom 5 speed, it has 38 tooth on the rear. I didn't realise. And I put a 34 tooth on unsure of the front sprocket but I just bought a 14t I think for the front. Because It was really low gearing with the 34t on the rear but it did make my speedo correct. And I couldn't use 5th gear unless I was on the highway but would have to drop back to forth because didn't have enough power.
More video clips about your grom please!! That’s why I subscribe thank you!!!
Once it stops snowing I will!
ALLDAYANTHONY swwweeeet!! Brother!!!🤙🏻👍🍻
Awesome video. First mod I’m putting on my grom when I finally get it.. eventually:(
Did you get it
JohnPaul did you get it
Did you get it
Did you get it
Hope yea got it
I did a 13t and a 38t
Maybe I missed it in the manual but I don’t remember seeing any torque specs. In this case I was referring to the two bolts on the me retainer.
Hell yea dude! Let me know when you want me to video you from the outside! 🤘🏼 -low_psi_evo
“Oh yeah dude this thing is ripping” As he gets it going 30 miles an hour
recipe 4 recovery He didn’t mean speed...
Cool Video brother😊👌
Gold accents look good on the bike
+Ryan Cerda thank you! I thought they did too
Good info my dude
could took another link off but if you go back to the bigger sprocket you still can
will a chain actually stretch over time?????????????????????
Jeremy Waugh well yes, but I'm hoping this new chain will be able to take a beating until then. You could always remove another link down the road
Yes, the chain stretches after awhile. Also take into consideration of sprocket wear, both add to the need to adjust.
You need to hold the throttle not chop
Great tutorial.. Did you get new foot pegs or did you just remove there rubber?
Hey man, I want to order the parts but I was wondering, would my stock chain work with the 14T? It's like brand new
Yeah it'll work. Its probably better to get a better chain as the stock one stretches easier than one you could get for pretty cheap. Good luck!
damn i remember watching this vid when it came out
Oh yeah, yeah?
Ok
I used 13T front and no need to cut the chain
You don’t need another sprocket to stay in power band . At balance point..u just need to keep trying..I can do it with a stock chain & sprocket
tbh a tooth down on the front is easy fun on any bike
If I have a Grom with ABS is it harder to do wheelies? sorry for the newbie questions just liked and sub!
timZ Channel no that shouldn’t affect that
Next time connect your chain that way you can just slide it right through along with the other chain !! Link them together
Whats the cheapest way for me to go and correct the speedo after this mod? I was thinking this be a 10 dollar mod turning 150 cus of speedo healers
Speedo shouldn't be effected due to pick being kn the front wheel not on the output of the trans. The only way it would be effected would be bigger or smaller tires.
Hey Anthony,
I have to adjust my chain slack a little tighter after the 14T sprocket change. Is it just the nuts at the very end of the axel or also the bolt that’s in the slider frame ? Thanks
SnapBack loosen off axel bolt then loosen adjuster lock nut then adjust and lock the lock nuts then tighten rear axel nut back up to 44 foot pounds
so i have a 2018 grom i did a airbox mod and my grom is stretch and lower i have stock sprocket i weight 290 pound i hit top speed at 60 if i change my front sprocket to 14teeth do i lose top speed or gain? help me :P
loose
Lose
Down in the front and up in the rear would make you lose. The opposite would make you gain. Unless you have done engine modifications don't change sprockets for top speed.
Technically you have a lower top speed but in 4th gear you usually run out of power before revs you wont lose speed you are just able to keep power from being higher in rev band. The only time you could tell is if you are going down hill at full throttle
@Mark Robinson with the 14 tooth yes I weigh 230 and I can peg it out it tops out right at 71mph
What’s your loss in top speed?
Didnt look like much since he hit 59 before cutting out
Well, the speedo is technically off by a few mph due to the swap, but I'm still able to hit 60-64 on a good day
@@ALLDAYANTHONY my grom with a zoom exhaust is like 58 to 61 on a good day and I'm 145 pounds with close on. Idk why everybody's top speed is better. The 61mph is full tuck
@@worldrage619 I too am 145 lbs and I flickered 71 mph with a down grade. A slight slope will get you more obviously. On straight and level I can hit 60 to 62mph full throttle.
@@worldrage619 im 6'1 and 165, I top out at 64mph down hill on a cool evening with the wind at my back full tuck (55ish sitting up, flat road, normal day). its a tiny bike with a tiny top speed lol. my stock dr650 hits 90 asap, and it weighs 3x as much as the grom, but it also has way more power and torque.... im wondering how much of a difference a big bore kit makes on the little bike...
Since the speed sensor is on the front wheel changing the sprockets shouldn't change the speedometer?? Still going to read the actual speed...
No, the speed sensor is in the gearbox, changing the sprocket will throw the speedo out. You have to get a speedo healer.
Typically you go up on the rear sprocket but either way that works lol
16:10 that’s what she said
How long did the dilevery take? For the sprocket ND chain
intro song is some kind of remix for STAY HIGH by HABITS or something
Gromkour it is!
damn that was a fast reply i was windering what you thought of my name cause im getting a bike soon and im 99%sure im getting a grom and i want to vlog so i decied to make my vlog name my two favoutrite things which is the grom and parkour ps ive like the grom since i was about 13 and lived in thailand with my mum
what was the song you had throughout the video?
Hi.i tried putting on 14 tooth sprocket. Doesn't go on shaft smooth at all like stock sprocket. Did you have same problem. Any suggestions. Each video I watch keeps editing that part.like everybody is having a fitment problem. I also just got a 13 tooth. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks mike
It should just slide right on! Then just get the two bolts tightened down
Thats a stock sprocket combi for groom? 15:34?
14:34 is a good in acceleration but 14/36 is much more better
THE BLACK RIDER in contemplating on doing 14/36. What’s better about it specifically? Others just tell me to change the front and leave the rear... idk what to do lol 14:34 or 14:36?!?
How much top end speed did you lose with that front sprocket? I want to do an intake/exhaust/tune with T14 front but want the 65-70+ mph top speed with the raised RPM ceiling the tune would give for highway riding.
I have a 2015 grom with intake and full exhaust and 62mph is tops let me know what the 14t does
My 2020 Grom with 14t sprocket tops out at 73mph, it is ECU flashed but everything else is for bottom end speed
Can I get the sprocket without the chain ? Will it have the same results with just the sprocket ? And Will the jt 15T be ok ? The 14T is sold out.
SnapBack the bike already has a 15t sprocket when stock so that wouldn’t change anything, and depending on how many miles you have on the chain and how good of shape it is in you can just change the sprocket
great video, man.
Can you tell the model of Ohlins rear suspension are you using? It looks soooo fucking cool.
I would like to get one.
I can't remember the exact model but its the most common one for the grom
Wait bro am going to get my car and motorcycle licenses not at the same but anyway when I buy my grom should I put right a way the Renthal chains and 14 tooth or wait on till the chain start stretching
I have 6000 miles on my D.I.D. O-ring chain and haven't had to adjust it yet, stock only lasted 4000 and was a major pain to constantly clean and adjust...
Now my O-ring chain has no difference in power and no cleaning, just wipe off every 400-700 miles and add 90 weight gear oil then wipe off all the excess.
6-60% stiffer clutch springs on the stock clutch plate made it easier to wheelie than even a 13 tooth sprocket.
Start at 2 to 5 MPH and don't take your foot off the rear brake!!!
Did you torque wrench anything or just tighten by feel? I can’t find torque specs anywhere.
71Flash torque specs for which part? They should be listed in the maintenance manual which can be found online
Hey try this sprocket combination 14/34
how much of a difference is it from just a 14/stock to and 14/34
zach biiticker 14/34 is stock
@@maughmoto8874 no 15/34 is
Always replace the entire drive line- Front/Rear-Sprockets and Chain at the same time !!!
Hahahahahahahahaahah
Is that what your mechanic told you?
@@Burnt_clutch89 mine only has 27 miles😁
About to install the 14T sprocket. I’m just worried about the rear wheel. I don’t have a torque wrench. How tight do these bolts on the rear wheel need to be ?? Is it possible to do with without loosening the chain ? I’m not changing my chain cuz it’s brand new
SnapBack you can just snug them down. Get them tight but not tight enough to where you feel like you’re going to break something
ALLDAYANTHONY I was able to install it without touching the rear wheel which is great. One question. The sprocket fit much tighter than the stock 15T when I slid it onto the rod. Is this ok? Also how tight do those two bolts on the sprocket need to be? I tightened them down preety well just want to make sure. Thanks Anthony
SnapBack it’s probably tight because it’s new. I would say hand tight. Don’t over do it because those can snap
ALLDAYANTHONY what are some things to look for in case something’s wrong. I put it all together and everything went back perfect except for it being a little tight when sliding in. You think it will be safe ?
I think your speedometer goes off of your front wheel speed but not exactly sure...
Nope, goes off the gearing...
What brand is your helmet/visor?
Do you have an straight up oil pump
What’s the difference in top end between the stock sprocket and new sprocket?
New 14t will drop your max speed about 6 MPH at the shown 73 limiter.
Will the JT sprocket that you're showing fit on a 2017 Grom? I was going to order it off eBay but eBay is saying that number will not fit on a 2017
I believe it should! Don't quote me on it though
I have jt 14tooth and it fits on my 2017
Holy crap
is there a phat back tire mod?
It does not have a power band
Lorenzo Linear facepalm
Glad to see domes ones got some sense 😂 people always wanna change the front sprocket. But they want to go up 3 or 4 teeth. No. U just can’t. Well ya can. They’ll sell ya anything. But your put a lot of stress on that motor. Don’t run and buy a 17t. Just bc it fots on there. Doesn’t mean it’s good. Sure. Go down. Go up one. It makes a hell of a difference when u do the front. It’s just safer to fine tune it in the rear. When u jump from one tooth to the next. It’s like putting a 50t on a 30t 😂 just examples. But good choice. Just one tooth will do what u want. For every one tooth on the front is like putting 20 more teeth on the rear. My neighbor does this shit every time. Well it fits. Sure it does. Is it right no. U wanna go fast. Buy a bigger bike. Don’t buy a 125 or 250 and think your gonna go 100mph 😂 good job 👏
You increased speed you should of changed it cuz going up 1 tooth on the front sprocket is likes adding 3 on the rear sprocket
he went 1 down in the front
If anything I'd change the sprocket for top end cause that bike barley does 55 yeah
Brian Krasne My 2019 grom will go 65 on flat, I have A cold air intake, a zoom exhaust and I got My ecu flashed
@@DoggyNipples I was talking stock. You do as little as change your sprockets you can get 70mph out of it with out anything else. But straight from the factory your going to have to be going down a steep hill if you want to do 60
(!) Changing sprocket makes ABS non operational (!) When you exceed about 60km/h then ABS cancelled even to low speed. Only ignition on\off to reset ABS.
I use 13t front and no need for chain change of shorten. Top speed 90 km/h easy.
I have an ABS Grom and had no problems turning off with the 14 t sprocket even at the 73 MPH Rev limiter, I then went to the 13 t and the ABS light started flashing at a much lower speed like 50-55 MPH
P.s. the ABS turns off most of the time when doing wheelies... Just have to turn it off and on like you said and then go faster that 22 MPH for the light to stop flashing.
I am groom.. :D
How would you fix the speedometer thing?
Isaiah Woodbury speedo healer from 12 o clock labs. It’s 80 bucks on hardracing.com
Hey ant
I have another question. It seems like my bike gears are messed up. When I come to a stop I shift into neutral and then into first when it’s time to take off. Once I’m in first and try to take off it seems to still be in neutral cuz the bike still revs high and I can’t take off. Also shifting into second gear give me trouble sometimes. When i shift into second it seems to slip into neutral. Can this be from changing the sprocket ? I don’t think so. Wanted your opinion thanks
SnapBack did it do that before the sprocket? That shouldn’t be happening
ALLDAYANTHONY I was having some trouble with neutral before the sprocket change. Is the sprocket related to the gear box? I don’t see how that would cause this problem. Ever since I got the bike it’s mad hard to find neutral and now it’s slipping into neutral when I shift into second sometimes and also when I shift down to first to take off the engine jus revs like it’s in neutral and I have to kick it down harder to get into first.
SnapBack yeah the neutral issue is normal. Very common with groms. Mine will give me trouble time to time
SnapBack have you adjusted your chain or clutch lever?
ALLDAYANTHONY yes I just brought it to the shop yesterday to adjust my levers because I put aftermarket levers on and wanted to get it professionally done and I’m thinking they didn’t do a good job. Can this be the reason?
I need to get my licence
And apparently, I need to learn how to spell
u french by any chance? lol
Your board is in miles?
Change out the back sprocket aswell and you might get it up in 2nd gear...
Jeffrey Turnage you easily get the grom up in 2nd gear
Robin Ehrnsten and in 3rd!!!! #Gromlife!! Says the guy who dosen't have one😔😫
Jeffrey Turnage facepalm
Jeffrey Turnage you can literally search it up before calling me an idiot, 2nd gear and about 50kmh and it's possible
Robin Ehrnsten I wasn't calling you an idiot lol And I was referring to myself about not having a grom.
Just hit the sub for y
Can you get it up in 2nd with the 14 tooth ?
What kind of helmet is that?
Icon variant
I’m hoping this is the reason I can’t keep it up ……. 🤣
When lunch in india
probably at 12 o'clock
I can barely get 54 on stock everything lol
Tristin L i put the same sprocket on i get it up to 56mph i dont know what the stock one got up to cause soon as i bought itand i ripped it apart in my living room
I have a 2015 air box mod and exhaust with 15 tooth and I can hit 70 on flat ground on mine.
Umm that's 7 links lol not 14.... I guess your counting isn't up to par guy
Think he was counting the pins.. not the full links 😂 I thought the same thing when he said 14 links!!
You shoulda mastered wheelies before u spent money on tring to get better at wheelies. You should be able to do work on a stock grom
It's not that I couldn't wheelie on the stock setup, it was more about the effort and wear and tear on the Grom from trying to do it with effort. Revs had to be higher and I physically had to yank the bars up. The new setup is effortless and has resulted in much less wear for the 10 dollar sprocket
The stock Grom especially with pipe CANT wheelie with some people. I'm 250 PDs and can wheelie for miles on anything except the Grom. It just has to little bottom end with a pipe to get the front end up.
You didn’t even use the gloves maaaaaan
those stock Vee rubber tires suck
They are the worst! Love my power pures
Theres no power ban on a 4 stroke
The power band of an internal combustion engine or electric motor is the range of operating speeds under which the engine or motor is able to operate most efficiently
Hey guys bit of a random comment but I have a grom and a monkey bike and like to ride round wheelies all that and have just purchased Sparta for my 2017 grom should I make a UA-cam page and let you guys follow the adventure 🙃
dont try and promote another(future) channel on someones content, no one likes a leech.
If you replace the rear sprocket and replace it with a lighter one you will loose a bunch of unsprung mass.
Wheelies are for plonkers😂😂😂😂
If your grom is your only bike dont do this. It will make 45 mph roads feel Awful..
Why?