JudgeMathas I might get laughed at for being a filthy RPG Peasant or something, but I still can't get over Oblivion. I just love the game, janky and god-awfully ugly as it may be. It was one of the first RPGs I really ever played, and together with Fallout 3, made me absolutely fall in love with the open world RPG setting! I still remember hating how they dumbed down so much of the RPG aspects of the series when Skyrim was released...A feeling I'm still stuck with to this day...Graagh!
Well it's not 'true fantasy' I have a deep love for Phantasy Star Online. For a more traditional fantasy Final Fantasy Tactics. Now if only maybe one day we'll get a Fantasy version of Mount and Blade.
Pretty accurate review. I think both you and Mandalore Gaming summed up one of the main problems I have with the game - along with the main reason I still haven't finished it: the combat. I swear, no matter how many times I tried to get the hang of it, the enemies' hitboxes either fuck me over, or didn't register a hit on my end. The kicking is also a problem I experienced. On the one hand.... well just watch the footage, it's amazing just kicking enemies into traps and pits! On the other hand, I counted NUMEROUS times where the I kicked an enemy, only for him to either dodge it due to a hitbox issue, or just stagger and not fall over. Coming from a guy who also specializes in melee combat, it's disappointing to see it like this. Another problem I'm kinda surprised wasn't mentioned is that the bow isn't a weapon you'll be using often, even if you're a non-mage character. 60-65% of the action is taking place in either tight corridors, or small areas where it wouldn't be usable, not to mention the LACK of skills you have for the thing in the first place. The only time you will ever use it, is for either Rope Arrows, which actually are handy, and where the game happens to place you in a large area. Now I might finish it one day, but it definitely won't be because I enjoy playing through it or excited on how the generic story ends, it's just to say "I did it". Call me a casual or whatever, but I much prefer playing Oblivion over this game any day. That game's also dated and I definitely have nostalgia bias to a degree, but at least Oblivion kept my attention throughout the story and actually made me feel invested with the world around me.
Gothic II, which is another game that didn't succeed but grew a cult following. It's been praised for its inmersing and alive world. A review of the game would be relevant this days, since Pirahna Bytes has just released Elex and a huge new mod for Gothic II, History of Khorinis, is almost completed.
Classic Fantasy RPG? Either Torment or Baldur's Gate 2 (BG2 swallowed a good portion of the time I should have been spending on my GCSE's, after the Iron crisis erased my first 3 years of high school) 360 era? DA:O (a shame bioware never made any games after Mass Effect 2, would have loved to have seen a second Dragon age game, sadly it never happened) Xbox One era? Witcher 3... Duh, loved the original (hell it's a PC game that I bothered to play after 2005, that alone is testament to how awesome it is) With the 4k X1X upgrade it is sweet as... A very sweet thing.
While Mount and Blade Warband natively isn't a fantasy rpg my favorite mod for it Prophecy of Pendor is and the mod itself is so excellent that it could be a game all on its own.
Holy fuck I looooved this game when I played it back when it came out and I totally never knew it was arcane but that makes total sense. Thanks for the video
and after this great game we went 2 steps back and got Dishonored :[ I played Dark Messiah before Oblivion and because of that I never finished it. Combat was just so bad in comparison.
@@josephkeen7224 Awful meele combat which involves just spamclicking (the biggest difference and downgrade after Dark Messiah), predictable story (that betrayal mid game was obvious from the start), game starts by reusing the same map in the second mission, teleportation skill is easly abusable and destroys the whole balance of the game, the way you have to play the game is restricted (either you dont kill anyone or you get a bad ending, no matter what you might feel towards the enemies) and a little bit of false advertising (the devs said its gonna be a steampunk game when the source of power in universe is whale oil for some reason)
I have to politely disagree with your view on Crusaders of Might and Magic. What is funny is I disagree with every last reviewer's take on practically every game. Especially PS2 games. To each their own. But namely,...Evergrace was and always WILL BE BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT. Most of you guys just have no clue what true masterpieces are 🤘🤘. Take care. Thanks.
I played the beta, then the demo and then the release on both PC and Xbox 360 and honorable Judge Mathas... I assure you, you did not miss out on anything by not playing this during its original release window... It was pretty much just as bad back then as it is now.
The first five seconds pretty much summed up my entire playthrough of the game. I remember playing through the game real quick when I found it in a friend's steam library, back when the whole 'family library sharing' thing wasn't a complete and utter pain in the bootyhole. (If it's even a thing, I haven't checked in awhile.) Man...All I can say was it was a whole lotta fun for a quick little casual playthrough. Of course, it certainly helped that I have a deep-seated love of viciously kicking enemies to death...Darn you, 300! To this day I can't help but wish Oblivion had a combat system like an improved version of what this game has. I absolutely loved Oblivion, and I still do...but hot dang was it's combat just silly...Of course, Skyrim didn't improve it. At all. Sigh...I'm still salty that Bethesda removed the Unarmed skill tree and dumbed down a lot of the RPG aspects of Skyrim...Grumble Grumble... (Why Bethesda, why you gotta make Unarmed Combat better in Skyrim but remove the skill for it so it's useless!? WHY, BETHESDA!? WHYYY!?)
Liking just for this: 12:58 As for my favorite fantasy RPG? Gotta be TES III: Morrowind. If you pace yourself and actually pay attention to the lore/books, it's an amazing setting and storyline.
Oh and to answer this weeks question: My favorite fantasy RPG is Dragons Dogma, played it a little while ago for the first time and it set my world on fire.
You describe Dark Messiah as "A medieval DOOM." I would say that Dark Messiah's more like an experimental fusion of Thief, Hexen, Half-Life, and bits of the Might and Magic series.
Favorite fantasy RPG... this is a tough one. I'm more of a J-RPG kind of guy and most of the fantasy RPGs I played are really old school ones (like, the original Bard's tale series on the C=64) that aged absolutely terribly. The one that does stand out for me is Planescape: Torment; I looooved the writing and the characters.
I had such fun playing DMoM&M back in the day. My only complaint is that it felt a bit rushed at the end. I was so ready for more, but the game abruptly ended. Still, my personal Game of the Year 2006. Honestly, I like that game more than Dishonored (which I still like, just not as much).
Poor arcane... They make arx fatalis, only to be overshadowed by Morrowind. They work on dark Messiah, it's obscured by Oblivion. Then Bethesda just goes ahead and buys them...
Flesh outed proof of concept. That is very true. I played it when it came out, and it was amazing, but now, yes it quite... Troublesome. If they had ended up making a squel, it would have been amazing!
When it comes to fantasy I still haven't found anything to top Planescape: Torment. I love the truly open-ended nature of it (something I never felt was the same in fx Baldur's Gate). I love the totally dreary world it takes place in and I also love the small quirks of it (mainly Morte). I am also a huge fan of Morrowind. And if we're talking time spend that takes the cake. But when it comes to the world and the enjoyment I had while playing Planescape is it for me.
I would have to say skyrim is my favorite fantasy rpg because it's like 711: it's not the greatest but it's always there for you at 3 am when you're hungering for some quick fun. That and mods.
always been a huge fan of Might and Magic as well as the Heroes Spin off. it was sad to go down fast after might and magic 6 and 7 i mean legacy is alright, but considering the age gap between those titles, it wasnt what they were by a long shot, but yea i love the franchise up to today and enjoy going back to it, coz of the stories hidden and the interlaced arcs within; stretching much like ES over many centuries too, just more visibly and notably so, and in that sense i prefer it, coz it makes me remember the rpg or strategy campaign of the previous installments (i mean just look at heroes 2 handing into might and magic 6; it's so good)
Its sort of like going back to a game that introduced mechanics that are super common now and seem old and stale. At the time, this level of environments manipulation was almost unheard of....particularly in the "fantasy rpg/lite" genre.
This is one of those games that you know the money will never be put forward for it, but a remake would be amazing. Well we can always hope. Shadow Warrior got a second chance.
My main gripe with the combat system in this game is that it falls apart the moment you aren't fighting against a humanoid enemy armed with a sword. Fighting against spiders and beholders sucked and zombies and ghouls were only slightly better.
I think a lot of people forget that back before the source engine, the idea of picking up a tin can in a game and throwing it with physics affecting it somewhat realistically was mind blowing.
Great episode. The Witcher 3 is probably at the top due to a lot of great stories and touching moments. Like reading a great book, it made me forget about the world around me. That and it has a lot of other good things going for it of course.
your just bad at the game, i use nothing but a sword and a ashield and its ton of fun. try jumpnig and striking. and lets not forget the rage or w/e charge tht you can unleash.
Nice video Mathas! Script and video editing are really good. As to my favorite RPG, I had pop up on Steam the other day a game that I had forgotten about, which I played for many hours. The Wizardry games kept my D&D self entertained for many games without the need to any others to play with. In fact Wizardry 8 , which I didn't know existed just appeared in my Steam queue.
Yoo, Mathas i dunno... I think Vampire: The masquerade bloodlines would be my favorite. I love how interesting the world of that game is. And its a true RPG. Not a third person shooter with rpg elements. A REAL Rpg
so was i the only one who tortured the bodies after death and threw them into spikes after i got bored or used a guards head as a distraction and or makeshift weapon
my favorit RPG? that Legend of Grimrock 2 (i really hope they do a 3rd game someday!). But in the more old school style i am currently playing Might and magic 7 and 8 which i got on gog.com. I would love to see you cover those games or the original heroes of might and magic 1,2 or 3! :D
i also like Might and magic 6 since it was the first Might and magic game that i played. The thing is it hasnt aged with grace so to speak. The UI and such could use an update.
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Hot dang did you enjoy the show? Be sure to LIKE if you did! And what's your favorite fantasy RPG?
dat is some quality editing
JudgeMathas have you ever played the ps1 game 40 winks? It's a really cool game.
JudgeMathas Gothic. You really should take a look at 1 and 2. They are fucking amazing, the best by far
JudgeMathas I might get laughed at for being a filthy RPG Peasant or something, but I still can't get over Oblivion. I just love the game, janky and god-awfully ugly as it may be. It was one of the first RPGs I really ever played, and together with Fallout 3, made me absolutely fall in love with the open world RPG setting! I still remember hating how they dumbed down so much of the RPG aspects of the series when Skyrim was released...A feeling I'm still stuck with to this day...Graagh!
Well it's not 'true fantasy' I have a deep love for Phantasy Star Online. For a more traditional fantasy Final Fantasy Tactics.
Now if only maybe one day we'll get a Fantasy version of Mount and Blade.
putting ice on the floor and kicking orcs onto it was the funniest thing back in the day
Indeimaus
Dark Souls of Might and Magic video incoming?
Mine is, obviously, Morrowind. Like there could even be options
Pretty accurate review. I think both you and Mandalore Gaming summed up one of the main problems I have with the game - along with the main reason I still haven't finished it: the combat. I swear, no matter how many times I tried to get the hang of it, the enemies' hitboxes either fuck me over, or didn't register a hit on my end. The kicking is also a problem I experienced. On the one hand.... well just watch the footage, it's amazing just kicking enemies into traps and pits! On the other hand, I counted NUMEROUS times where the I kicked an enemy, only for him to either dodge it due to a hitbox issue, or just stagger and not fall over. Coming from a guy who also specializes in melee combat, it's disappointing to see it like this.
Another problem I'm kinda surprised wasn't mentioned is that the bow isn't a weapon you'll be using often, even if you're a non-mage character. 60-65% of the action is taking place in either tight corridors, or small areas where it wouldn't be usable, not to mention the LACK of skills you have for the thing in the first place. The only time you will ever use it, is for either Rope Arrows, which actually are handy, and where the game happens to place you in a large area. Now I might finish it one day, but it definitely won't be because I enjoy playing through it or excited on how the generic story ends, it's just to say "I did it".
Call me a casual or whatever, but I much prefer playing Oblivion over this game any day. That game's also dated and I definitely have nostalgia bias to a degree, but at least Oblivion kept my attention throughout the story and actually made me feel invested with the world around me.
Orc in the start doesn't yell "STRANGER!" before you start kicking him.
You had one job Mathas, cmon man :D
That's my bad. I did the "voice" for the Orc. >.
Seriously, why don't you have more subs?!
Gothic II, which is another game that didn't succeed but grew a cult following. It's been praised for its inmersing and alive world. A review of the game would be relevant this days, since Pirahna Bytes has just released Elex and a huge new mod for Gothic II, History of Khorinis, is almost completed.
Favorite fantasy rpg? Witcher 3 obviously.
I mean I'm just going to imagine the beginning was Mathas kicking Thonk
Classic Fantasy RPG? Either Torment or Baldur's Gate 2 (BG2 swallowed a good portion of the time I should have been spending on my GCSE's, after the Iron crisis erased my first 3 years of high school)
360 era? DA:O (a shame bioware never made any games after Mass Effect 2, would have loved to have seen a second Dragon age game, sadly it never happened)
Xbox One era? Witcher 3... Duh, loved the original (hell it's a PC game that I bothered to play after 2005, that alone is testament to how awesome it is)
With the 4k X1X upgrade it is sweet as... A very sweet thing.
While Mount and Blade Warband natively isn't a fantasy rpg my favorite mod for it Prophecy of Pendor is and the mod itself is so excellent that it could be a game all on its own.
Holy fuck I looooved this game when I played it back when it came out and I totally never knew it was arcane but that makes total sense. Thanks for the video
(I think the reason I loved it so much is that I did all magic all the time. I played the multiplayer a lot too hah back when that was still online.)
Also I would still love a nice modern and polished sequel or remake to this, that creative combat done right would be something else
Favourite Fantasy RPG: Gothic II
THIS! IS! DARK MESSIAH!!!
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I loved the game back in the day, played it through in one sitting with a friend... Shame it didn't age well!
Easy answer: Baldur's Gate 2 - Shadows of Amn
and after this great game we went 2 steps back and got Dishonored :[ I played Dark Messiah before Oblivion and because of that I never finished it. Combat was just so bad in comparison.
How is Dishonored a step back?
@@josephkeen7224 Awful meele combat which involves just spamclicking (the biggest difference and downgrade after Dark Messiah), predictable story (that betrayal mid game was obvious from the start), game starts by reusing the same map in the second mission, teleportation skill is easly abusable and destroys the whole balance of the game, the way you have to play the game is restricted (either you dont kill anyone or you get a bad ending, no matter what you might feel towards the enemies) and a little bit of false advertising (the devs said its gonna be a steampunk game when the source of power in universe is whale oil for some reason)
Just posting a comment so youtube promotes this video as active.
I have to politely disagree with your view on Crusaders of Might and Magic. What is funny is I disagree with every last reviewer's take on practically every game. Especially PS2 games. To each their own. But namely,...Evergrace was and always WILL BE BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT. Most of you guys just have no clue what true masterpieces are 🤘🤘. Take care. Thanks.
I played the beta, then the demo and then the release on both PC and Xbox 360 and honorable Judge Mathas... I assure you, you did not miss out on anything by not playing this during its original release window... It was pretty much just as bad back then as it is now.
Shadow warrior 2013 is my favorite fantasy RPG... what... It has fantasy demons and upgrade trees, ITS TOTALLY AN FANTASY RPG SHUT UP!
The first five seconds pretty much summed up my entire playthrough of the game. I remember playing through the game real quick when I found it in a friend's steam library, back when the whole 'family library sharing' thing wasn't a complete and utter pain in the bootyhole. (If it's even a thing, I haven't checked in awhile.) Man...All I can say was it was a whole lotta fun for a quick little casual playthrough. Of course, it certainly helped that I have a deep-seated love of viciously kicking enemies to death...Darn you, 300!
To this day I can't help but wish Oblivion had a combat system like an improved version of what this game has. I absolutely loved Oblivion, and I still do...but hot dang was it's combat just silly...Of course, Skyrim didn't improve it. At all. Sigh...I'm still salty that Bethesda removed the Unarmed skill tree and dumbed down a lot of the RPG aspects of Skyrim...Grumble Grumble...
(Why Bethesda, why you gotta make Unarmed Combat better in Skyrim but remove the skill for it so it's useless!? WHY, BETHESDA!? WHYYY!?)
Liking just for this: 12:58 As for my favorite fantasy RPG? Gotta be TES III: Morrowind. If you pace yourself and actually pay attention to the lore/books, it's an amazing setting and storyline.
Oh and to answer this weeks question: My favorite fantasy RPG is Dragons Dogma, played it a little while ago for the first time and it set my world on fire.
You describe Dark Messiah as "A medieval DOOM." I would say that Dark Messiah's more like an experimental fusion of Thief, Hexen, Half-Life, and bits of the Might and Magic series.
Favorite fantasy RPG... this is a tough one. I'm more of a J-RPG kind of guy and most of the fantasy RPGs I played are really old school ones (like, the original Bard's tale series on the C=64) that aged absolutely terribly. The one that does stand out for me is Planescape: Torment; I looooved the writing and the characters.
I had such fun playing DMoM&M back in the day. My only complaint is that it felt a bit rushed at the end. I was so ready for more, but the game abruptly ended. Still, my personal Game of the Year 2006. Honestly, I like that game more than Dishonored (which I still like, just not as much).
My favourite rpg is definitely Dragon Age: Origins
What did you think of the Inquisition follow up? I've never been able to figure out if I like it or not...
Man DA:O had me hooked from start to finish.
Poor arcane... They make arx fatalis, only to be overshadowed by Morrowind. They work on dark Messiah, it's obscured by Oblivion. Then Bethesda just goes ahead and buys them...
Favourite RPG is a toss up between Daggerfall, Might and Magic 6,7&8 or Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.
Favourte Fantasy RPG? Well since just recently that has become Divinity Original Sin 2, followed closely by Tyranny on second place.
Flesh outed proof of concept. That is very true. I played it when it came out, and it was amazing, but now, yes it quite... Troublesome. If they had ended up making a squel, it would have been amazing!
Daelricia....
When it comes to fantasy I still haven't found anything to top Planescape: Torment. I love the truly open-ended nature of it (something I never felt was the same in fx Baldur's Gate). I love the totally dreary world it takes place in and I also love the small quirks of it (mainly Morte). I am also a huge fan of Morrowind. And if we're talking time spend that takes the cake. But when it comes to the world and the enjoyment I had while playing Planescape is it for me.
Loved Morrowind and Heroes 3... Also one time played about 20 hours straight! of Disciples 2 with a friend at the time.
I would have to say skyrim is my favorite fantasy rpg because it's like 711: it's not the greatest but it's always there for you at 3 am when you're hungering for some quick fun. That and mods.
It's funny you keep comparing this game to Oblivion since both Arkane Studios and Bethesda are owned by Zenimax these days.
I love Xenoblade Chronicles. It might be more a mix of Fantasy and Steam Punk but I absolutely love it!
always been a huge fan of Might and Magic as well as the Heroes Spin off.
it was sad to go down fast after might and magic 6 and 7
i mean legacy is alright, but considering the age gap between those titles, it wasnt what they were by a long shot, but yea i love the franchise up to today and enjoy going back to it, coz of the stories hidden and the interlaced arcs within; stretching much like ES over many centuries too, just more visibly and notably so, and in that sense i prefer it, coz it makes me remember the rpg or strategy campaign of the previous installments (i mean just look at heroes 2 handing into might and magic 6; it's so good)
Well, I know Crusader of Might and Magic were bad but somehow I really loved this game.
Its sort of like going back to a game that introduced mechanics that are super common now and seem old and stale. At the time, this level of environments manipulation was almost unheard of....particularly in the "fantasy rpg/lite" genre.
Nintendo pool of radiance.The PC Version was way to bugy to play.
This is one of those games that you know the money will never be put forward for it, but a remake would be amazing.
Well we can always hope. Shadow Warrior got a second chance.
should check out bullet storm it is kinda like this except with guns. Got a remaster for PC recently, and is fairly fun.
Reminds me of all the kicking in bulletstorm. That whole game was built around kicking people in the dick
Now i understand why sseth mentioned kick not being that OP especially in high difficulties.
I kinda want that Yoshi Licking Your Tiddy tee.
Yeah it was largely ignored back in the day. To the point it was massively offered in magazines
I'd love to hear the Judge's opinion on Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor. Or at least the combat in it.
My main gripe with the combat system in this game is that it falls apart the moment you aren't fighting against a humanoid enemy armed with a sword.
Fighting against spiders and beholders sucked and zombies and ghouls were only slightly better.
4:20 "Im not sure if I like the word waifu" Oh Mathas if only you knew back then...
I would rate this game among best games ever (and the following Dishonored and Prey)
Dark Messiah is one of my all time favorites. I've been an Arkane Studios fanboi since that release!
I think a lot of people forget that back before the source engine, the idea of picking up a tin can in a game and throwing it with physics affecting it somewhat realistically was mind blowing.
Also my faveroute rpg of all time, the more I play it, is VTMB, it defines for me what is to be an rpg
Also spamming light attack and not power attack? What a pleb! :D
I just wanna say thank you for reviewing older games and not just whats new and popular.
Great episode.
The Witcher 3 is probably at the top due to a lot of great stories and touching moments. Like reading a great book, it made me forget about the world around me. That and it has a lot of other good things going for it of course.
Fav fantasy rpg? I got two for you: divinity 2: ego draconis and divinity original sin 2
your just bad at the game, i use nothing but a sword and a ashield and its ton of fun. try jumpnig and striking. and lets not forget the rage or w/e charge tht you can unleash.
My favorite RPG is either Baldurs gate or any mainline elder scrolls game, I play a ton of RPGs so it's hard to choose honestly...
Favorite fantasy RPG....the first Grandia.
Nice video Mathas! Script and video editing are really good.
As to my favorite RPG, I had pop up on Steam the other day a game that I had forgotten about, which I played for many hours. The Wizardry games kept my D&D self entertained for many games without the need to any others to play with. In fact Wizardry 8 , which I didn't know existed just appeared in my Steam queue.
Thanks!
As someone's who's loved this game since the demo came out on PC, that intro made my day.
Yoo, Mathas i dunno... I think Vampire: The masquerade bloodlines would be my favorite. I love how interesting the world of that game is. And its a true RPG. Not a third person shooter with rpg elements. A REAL Rpg
Whoops, totally misread your comment, carry on.
(Also I agree with this, Bloodlines helped escalate my love for the vampire mythos.)
I remember hearing a lot about this series, but never played it myself. Was neat to see it ty JM
This game was awesome in 06 and i replayed it 2 times over the years to try other skilltrees , honestly dont get all the reviews saying its mediocre
This game is getting featured on so many Channels recently
I loved this game, played on console, safe to say I mastered it.
Mathas shits on one of my favorite games. I still sub to the guy
Reminds me of mandaloregamings recent vid.
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, or Chrono Trigger
so was i the only one who tortured the bodies after death and threw them into spikes after i got bored or used a guards head as a distraction and or makeshift weapon
Its when a new one of these comes out you realise how much you enjoy them.
> a kick joke right away
Ah, this is a Dark Messiah review alright
Stop the oblivionbashing!!!
I remember playing this game ten years ago and it was amazing
Medieval dying light
# Corpse Midget
Do you really just randomly post DP memes on random videos?
Heroes of might in Kicking
That opening was pretty great
I will keep on singing this game's praise, Dark Cloud is one of the best fantasy rpgs ever.
Dark Cloud was amazing, but I think I'd still say the Legend of Dragoon or Skies of Arcadia are tied for my personal favorites.
2017 new shirt i guess
my favorit RPG? that Legend of Grimrock 2 (i really hope they do a 3rd game someday!).
But in the more old school style i am currently playing Might and magic 7 and 8 which i got on gog.com. I would love to see you cover those games or the original heroes of might and magic 1,2 or 3! :D
Love those games! But VI is the best one, in my opinion.
i also like Might and magic 6 since it was the first Might and magic game that i played. The thing is it hasnt aged with grace so to speak. The UI and such could use an update.
Love the new shirt!
Jedi.
Academy.
Witcher 3
Bring back sailor mathas
Maybe one day...
Wait, was that an orc trying to troll your video?
Damn Orcs.
You have a very cute cat.