Heyo hope you’re enjoying sensory overload: the video I want to clear up that I was never at any risk of spyware from the mod developers. It works by encoding a message that contains the command to execute and everything else necessary into an image. The image contains the message in its pixels. That image is then uploaded to a server that the mod constantly checks while its running. When there is a new image, it gets downloaded, decoded and executed. In pleb terms, basically the mod checks a server for stuff the devs send, never actually interacting with my computer and they can’t receive anything back. All of this was also almost exclusively set up for my stream and is fully off. As well. They’ve added this disclaimer to the mod website. I wasn’t very pleased that they didn’t tell me about it, but I trust the group and we worked out that I’d like more explanation in the future
I think for the future Spiff, you should maybe make sure if there is a backdoor, it's atleast known. It just feels really bad to have one randomly even if it's all safe, you never know what could happen
I think other peeps have probably already pointed this out, but when I did my mimic pursuit run (that OmegaaDev also made), I realized that the intro to the game lacks any sort of navigational mesh. This is because there aren't normally any free-roaming animatronics present in that location, so if you spawn them in, they just stand around since they can't essentially calculate how to get to you.
So, the reason the lads can’t move during the entrance bit is because that chapter just doesn’t have a NavMesh (basically an addition to the floor that’s basically a carpet that pathfinding happens on) but for other chapters, there is a NavMesh
@@theonetruedoggo4808 pretty much in every 3D game, if a character or enemy needs to move in a way that isn't mapped out before hand (i.e. moving back and forth or in a circle), it uses a nav-mesh
@@theonetruedoggo4808 All AI in GMOD/Source Engine games use a navmesh. Half Life 2 was one of the first games to really highlight the use of navmeshes in its AI design, and so a bunch of mod for it/games made on the engine make use of its ability to highlight paths and direct the AI organically through complicated structures. NextBots are just an extremely efficient pathing module for Source Engine navmesh code. They don't do any complicated "Move to cover/shoot at target" calculations like the base game AI/Combine Soldiers do, their only objective is to move as quickly as possible from one point to another using the navmesh. The navmesh in Source Engine games works extremely well for those purposes....if you've remembered to actually set one up for that map. If you load an NPC or NextBot into one of the older modded maps that doesn't have an updated navmesh setup they will struggle to even move at all.
@@icantthinkofanythingclever5979 you can also use a nav mesh for mapped out behaviour too, most modern 3d games use navmesh for everything regarding npc movement
When it comes to the backdoor issue, there’s a pretty good video on the idea by Spaceman Scott where he talks about the idea in relation to Welcome to the Game. In short, it’s important for that type of thing to be “opt in” so that people aren’t blindsided, especially during a livestream. In this case it wasn’t malicious, and was able to be worked out by spiff and the devs, but this type of thing can easily go wrong with the wrong person in charge
@@blueshellincident Read the pinned comment. This isnt a backdoor 💀 if so then any app that developers can remotely update (like Discord) is also a "backdoor" 😱
@@unfathomablyunfathomable Any software you update can become a trojan or worse if the developer or whoever has access to the servers can upload a version with malicious code. This has actually been documented in many other pentesting studies in the past. an off the top of my head example is for the apple store, it was possible to backdoor many devices because once you uploaded a good version of software, they didn't vet updates of the code past that. That was official platforms too. This is a mod. Anyway, If it's communicating enough for the dev to fuck with an OFFLINE GAME to a streamer on a completely different network, then it can definitely be abused / exploited to do a lot more harm than janking up your run on stream. Earlier in the video, it was able to open youtube links and tab his game out. It's literally executing code on his system to do that. Edit: Context.
@@somedude9316 I understand your concerns but I believe it was only Spiff's version of the game that they could do this with so any other copy should be fine. I don't believe they were able to execute code directly since the game doesn't have admin perms. But you know how Discord can open websites if you click a link? There's probably something similar going on. Still they very much should've told him beforehand
“I was never told that the developers could interact with my game live” Is a WILD statement because that’s so dangerous while streaming. Of course the devs clearly didn’t have any malicious intentions but if they did this would be a complete shitshow. Please, developer(s) that worked on that part of this mod, TELL SPIFF NEXT TIME AND MAKE SURE HE IS OKAY WITH IT!! Boundaries are important, especially when it comes to someone else being able to put up things on your stream.
@@LegendConsole Clustertruck was a twitch integration people willingly could put on that gave them access through twitch itself, not a backdoor. That was different, and for streaming purposes only.
There's a reason why the original chaos mod for GTAV had a lot of time in between events, and most of these events weren't long as hell, while also being completely unwatchable, because of how often they overlap I must say tho, Day 2 was WAY better. I think the part about random animatronics spawning is the one that ruins haha experience the most, other than that I would say Day 2 was pretty enjoyable
Both of the chaos mods are too much and way too random IMO. Should be more interesting events using in game content rather than "haha meme blocks your screen." It's just not very fun.
@@blueshellincident Yeah there's a lot about these "chaos mods" that frustrates me a lot. The fact that the distractions are usually dumb memes that have nothing to do with the spirit of FNAF, the fact some events just kills the run instantly without any way of stopping it
I remember the dev interrupting the game getting old fast. The fact they didn’t even make spiff aware that they had remote access to his game was also kinda scummy too.
@@arandomcommenter412 It really doesn’t, something like that should ALWAYS be disclosed up front, regardless of intent. If anything it’s concerning that an offline game was able to be accessed remotely without disclosing it to Spiff.
Is it just me or is the chaos mod only actually difficult because of a few events, mainly the ones that completely block your vision, leaving no way to actually survive, and the ones that either delete saves or close the game. The Choas mod seems to be more of a Russian roulette but every bullet is loaded except one
Can't help but agree. I wasn't keeping track, but it seems like almost a dozen effects either cause a premature death (like Tactical Nuke, Ded, AE) or cause an effect that is basically a restart (the minigames and some vision-changing effects). It's less of a challenge and more of just dying to random effects, which doesn't seem very fun. I think if there were fewer ways to auto-kill the player, or more ways to play around the kill mechanics, I think it would be better. Red Light Green Light is an interesting example, but usually a random animatronic would just kill Spiff regardless.
The modders intentionally messing with you was pretty scummy. I know you were never at the risk for spyware and it's been cleared up with them, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth watching this. That aside, I think a lot of the events are too chaotic to be enjoyable. Events where you're instantly killed shouldn't be a thing. I think a copyright free mode is necessary when dealing with a mod meant for streaming. Events that change the visuals need to reverse themselves after short period. I've got no clue if any of these were changed up through the stream as I'm part way through Day 1. Editing to say it seems like a lot of the issue I've had were cleared up and fixed. It's really good the devs could take some of the complaints into consideration and actually fix them.
#1 your statement on events are too chaotic to be enjoyable. .. thats the point. its the chaos mod. it was the same with the first one. Chaotic. as it should be #2 copyright free mode applies to a very very small amount of events. which you hardly even get with the amount of chaos. but i see your concern. #3 visual changes again, takes away from the CHAOS in the CHAOS mod. C C C C H A O S #4 your points on spyware and that being scummy is understandable but an overreaction. they just wanted to mess with spiff. go read his comment.
@NowPIaying Unsure why you decided to reply to me as this comment is 5 months old, but I think there is a fine line between it being chaotic and being enjoyable and then being chaotic and absolutely overwhelming and unplayable. I felt at the time of writing this that the mod crossed over into overwhelming and unplayable with everything going on. I know the point of it is to be chaotic, but what's the point to all the fun chaos if you're completely overwhelmed and can't enjoy it? As for visual stuff, even Mario 64 Chaos Edition's visual effects changed, switched out, and reverted to my memory of watching that particular mod. I don't see why this mod couldn't have done the same. As for the spyware comment, I know what Spiff said. I read his comment. It's why I said at the start of my comment that I know he was never at risk of spyware and that it's been cleared up with them. I never said it was spyware or that Spiff was going to get spyware. I just said I thought it was scummy and that it left a bitter taste in my mouth. Maybe you should re-read the start of my comment.
I'm wary of this mod for security (heh) reasons. Being able to arbitrarily display images and text means whoever is running the control software (or a third party potentially) could likely also send malicious payloads. I doubt the dev has anything malicious in mind, they just seem silly, but it would be nice for them to update the description about how their remote control panel is secured. Unfortunately even other developers likely won't have the tools to check the dev's work unless they're already UE modders since all the control panel stuff is inside of compiled UE binaries. Edit: I did some research, the version publically available doesn't have the remote access built in and it has been removed from their code repo as of June 5th. Still kinda cringe to commit a cardinal programming sin as a haha silly bit but chase your bliss I guess.
It’s definitely something that should be disclosed for a multitude of reasons. In my personal opinion I don’t think it should even be a thing, twitch integrations are possible like in Clustertruck to add value to streaming to the game with game dev fuckery, I don’t see why people go this route
Are we certain the remote access isnt available in the files provided through the mod page's google drive link pre-requisite for getting the mod to work?
Its wild to me how: - The devs didnt remove instant crash events/Instant kill events - Installed a backdoor onto Spiff's PC WITHOUT TELLING HIM - Generally didnt account for softlock situations. - Made Visual events PERMANENT I understand that with so many events you cant account for everything, but for how often Spiff seemed to get softlocked it feels kinda meh. Enemies spawning is kinda bad, its just artificial difficulty inflation. Maybe make them 4-5 Events instead of always spawning enemies. Like Good Job devs, you made a great mod. But. Uh. Disclose Backdoors. (Or just dont add them) and Remove the Instakill/Crash Events. (EA, The Arcade games etc.)
Firstly, it's called the Chaos mod because it's chaotic. I'm pretty sure the intent isn't to actually be able to beat the game with it. Second, it's not a back door. Read the pinned comment
I feel like this would be infinitely more fun to watch if it was just messing with shit like enemy spawns and general difficulty changes, or even map mods, but it's like 90% adding random shit to the screen and it makes for a god awful viewing experience.
Exactly, trying to watch DarkViperAU's GTA 5 Zchaos video felt like staring into a monitor thats just flashing rgb colors very fast. This is very similiar.
Who even knows how much access they had to his computer during all this. If they could remotely add pictures to the screen, could they also secretly inject a payload to remotely access his PC without the mod running? The fact this was undisclosed to Spiff is a serious breach of trust and he should cut them out of his mod group (I don't know how many people worked on the mod, but some of them are mods on his Twitch channel).
I feel like the biggest thing this mod could benefit from is copyright free alternatives to its sound based distractions. I don't wanna take away the Rick Roll, don't get me wrong. but its seems like quite the legal pain the the butt, so to speak.
@@Millekop Well that's a decent fix, but I feel its still against the spirit. Using different audio for Rick Roll (Perhaps the one Kane Carter used for his Rick Roll?) would make things still have that FUN factor, y'know?
I appreciate putting the link for the mod in the desc, but theres NO WAY I'm downloading a backdoor to my computer edit: I made this original comment very quick after the vid came out and before the pinned because I had already seen part of the vod, also, Spiff's pinned comment cleared things up, so read it instead.
@@basicname1555 Do you know it isn't? There's evidence that the game regularly executes enough code for two-way communication with a server (GET requests, whether implemented by opening a browser window, or more directly - as in the image download - _can_ be used to indirectly transmit information to a server). There's no evidence that the code utilises this in any way, but there's no evidence it doesn't, either. You'd probably need some proper RE to confirm, one way or another. And note that, just because a backdoor isn't _intended,_ doesn't mean that there's no risk of one. Depending on whether this is written in a memory safe or unsafe language, the possibility of memory manipulation is a huge potential risk. I don't personally think this was intended maliciously. But it's worth bearing in mind how easily a program with these capabilities _could_ have been malicious.
cool video, but yeah that whole access to manipulate the game as you're playing is super sketch. It's just a bit reminiscent of the "Welcome to the game"s developer doing something similar. There's an interesting video by Spaceman Scott about that situation.
Right, I instantly thought of that too, that dev was power tripping like a mf, and the game isn't even that good- just annoying as all hell. It's very clear he made that game just to annoy whoever is playing it, but also wanted the fame of creating a "hard scary game".
Yeah this is exactly where my mind jumped too. That guy was abusive with the people that played his game and I have no intention of supporting him or people that mimic him whatsoever.
Cool AstralSpiff content, but I hope you establish some boundaries with the guys. Them having livelink to your comp, especially without you knowing? While you are live? There is a lot of capacity for abuse in that, even if you trust them. It only takes one person willing to abuse that with the anonymity of the internet for that to be pretty damaging. I recall a Zoom meeting that got out of control.
it's still kind of untrustworthy that they added it at all, thats never been a normal thing for people to do super sus and I can't really blame spiff if he doesn't really mess with the guys anymore
I feel like it wouldn’t even ruin the mod’s funniness if he had been aware they at least had access beforehand, it’s such a personal breach to just not tell him that
the outlined textures at the beginning genuinely make it look like a borderlands location like not just that it's outlined but the destroyed nature of everything and the lighting
For those who didn't notice it, the endless abyss falls at 8:15 was caused by the "Autosave" event that saved the game at 7:08, midway through the tunnel cutscene.
I said it on the first VOD of the "challenge" and I'll say it here. This would've been so much better without the devs interfering constantly. It turns it from chaos mod to mod dev fucks with streamer. The fact that the devs even put in a remote backdoor is kind of suspicious, but not telling Spiff it was there is a definite breach of trust. I'm never downloading this virus and I hope to never see this mod be used maliciously (I'm 95% certain it will once the devs read all these negative comments about it).
I’ve heard from another person in this comment section that the public version of this mod doesn’t allow the devs to do that, though I can’t personally confirm this Also (as someone who’s currently only a third through the video) the devs promised to stop interacting with Spiff’s game for the second stream, and I can only assume that they kept that promise
Oh no!! I don't know anything about the mod and didnt read Spiff's pinned comment and now I'm fearmongering about something that doesnt exist!! Let's all pretend that there was any form of spyware or real backdoor in the game just to jump on the hate train!!!
I'm very impressed by the fact Spiff seems to just casually brush off the fact he had a remote backdoor installed on his PC by mod devs he supposedly was on good terms with. They could've just bricked his PC if they wanted to.
@@ZGh0st1422 The pinned comment just explains that Spiff doesn't understand what a backdoor is, this is absolutely remote access and could be used to execute code.
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 a backdoor would mean they’d have access to secured parts of spiffs computer, but that’s not what the mod did. Thanks for once again proving YOU don’t understand what a backdoor is
@@ZGh0st1422 If they can access his game, they can get access to the rest of his computer by the same method. And I'll have you know I have a master's degree in computer science.
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 it’s always the self proclaimed “experts” that seem to not know what they’re talking about 😂 having access to your own mod doesn’t mean you can access every file in someone’s computer. Must suck to put yourself in so much debt just to not know what a backdoor is
I gotta say, that tactical nuke during the Monty backstory cutscene was genuinely cinematic. I was on the edge of my seat, felt like there was a real sense of danger as the building collapsed around her. Good cutscene.
In Unreal engine, AI requires a navmesh to move, and since there's never supposed to be any ai in the beginning segment, there's no navmesh. That's why the animatronics aren't moving.
I love how Monty is consistently the greatest threat Spiff faces in anything Security Breach related even though he's kind of pathetic when you play the game as intended
Jesus Christ this chaos mod is horrible. The mod creators adding a backdoor without telling Spiff or having it on the mod page is actually disturbing. Imagine if one of the people controlling Spiff's game just decided to throw p*rn on the screen "for the funnies". The mod creators didn't even use the function well, mostly using it to just spam unfunny lukewarm memes. And then there's the fact that despite knowing you're a streamer, they proceeded to fill the mod and screen with copyrighted music. And then there's the deleting of the save file...my god, I could feel my blood boiling more and more as the video went on, and not because you were getting "trolled" by the actual effects.
I mean they removed copyright music and save deletion second day. I think the mod devs just thought “more random is funny”, but took the feedback and used it and fixed it quickly.
@@hotpocketsat2am that's what a backdoor does. It's a way to gain access to someones computer and control it manually. So either A.) They are just using big words that everyone else is using B.) They are similar to the dum-dum lolipops
If mod devs EVER plan to mess with someone’s computer directly, not only do they need to have consent, but it should be listed on the page. It was a shitty thing to do without saying anything.
Spiff was right, this is more chaotic than the base sb mod, also the fazglock actually doing something is really funny. Anyways great video Spiff and Connor, keep up the good work!!
Honestly the devs having access and interacting with the game without Spiff’s knowledge is fucking creepy. Spiff handled it well, even with all the just plain attention seeking and annoying trolling, but even has a viewer all I could think of the game Parasocial where something somewhat similar happened
I was curious about what you're talking about, so I looked that game up and don't see anything about someone having access to another's computer. Unless you mean, like, in-universe. That might make some sense, I suppose.
@@randibillett472iirc in parasocial it’s about a vtuber and a viewer is stalking her or something? but they get remote access to the mcs computer and leaks their face and stuff. I think that’s what they’re talking about. So yes in universe
These mods always seem to come short of the inspiration. In Chaos Mario, there is a lot of stuff to mess with the player but it also lets you use the chaos to your advantage and create a new experience. These just always feel like trying to beat the base game will random shit is thrown in your face and instead of being its own unique challenge just makes it feel like a test of patience. I think it worked better in SB as theres more tech you can use to bypass or manuever the challenges thrown in you way, but in this game you just have to push through until you get sick of it. While mods are hard to put into place this one just feels like a slapped together shitpost when I think the idea could still work given more thought. Great as always to spiff as he still made it enjoyable while sick, but I felt like without someone entertaining to watch, the mod itself would be just annoying to get through.
What I learned from this video is that Spiff can not, or is unable to see any hud elements that are in the middle of the screen. My man even committed as far as to be completely still on the green light and immediately start moving on the red light
Why does the devs have control over the game here? I definitely don't trust them, they seem scummy to have not even told Spiff. I hope spiff has a way to block them from doing it again. The backdoor is bullshit, and hope they didn't do anything to his computer
Seriously he should go through and check EVERYTHING and maybe even hard wipe his pc to make sure there is nothing left behind, they essentially ratted him. Every single thing on his pc could have been seen and taken by them
And having it linked in the description is extremely dangerous because it could lead to hundreds or even thousands of other knowledgeable people getting ratted by them too
@@bannan2781 the devs had access to spiff's computer, how do u expect us to react? It's dangerous for people to have a backdoor to your pc, it can be used for stealing data and such.
I haven't made it far yet, but I must say: I love the disturbed surprise on Spiff's face at 8:46. He sort of flinches back and just holds that position until whatever it was passed. Absolutely amazing.
blanana and his team are good people. Yes, in a hypothetical situation they could have not been. But they were and really that's all that matters. They are apart of his mod team and spiff has worked with them a BUNCH. I wouldnt call it scummy and I wouldnt bring on hate towards blanana and their team in any way. They just made a mistake, that's all. And mistakes happen. Nothing bad happened and that's what matters. Props to blanana and the team for making this mod. Genuinely it's so cool that they even managed to make something so chaotic work AT ALL. Regardless of how many times it broke lol.
that backdoor thing is SUPER messed up and just rlly weird, doesnt hurt to ask if spiff is okay with it. either way its messed up since anyone can download this, i know it was "deleted" but yikes!!!also, this chaos mod wouldve been a lot more fun to watch if it changed stuff with the animatronics or smth, not just adding unfunny ytp clips or random wacky images/sfx
It isn't a backdoor and cant be used to run any scripts and only images. They have no way of retrieving any information from your PC and they cant interact with it in any way. Please stop fearmongering.
I just finished rewatching all of your security breach videos and thought that it would be really cool if you posted one right after i finished, and here we are, it was actually perfect timing
After watching your videos for a few years, Spiff, it dawned on me that FNAF is just the new generation's Goosebumps. That's kind of rad. And thank you for being a chill dude that restores a bit of my faith in humanity.
I know many have said this but yeau the back door thing is...yikes i wish they had at lest told spiff either somewhere in the mod or dms...i get it if hes unbothered but somthing about it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth
Fun mod to watch and maybe even try, but I am not going to download a potential spyware just for the lulz. WTF dev? Remote control to the game and maybe whole PC? Without ever disclosure it? And how after that I could trust that they "remove" it in later updates?
Spiff, lovely video as always. A real fun time and funny content. But please, make zure you take care of yoursekd and protect your personal information and system. ❤
Good video, I feel happy to know i was the first person to say E (Ivygrows8whacko) when due to cinematic mode you couldn't do the node thingy :) ALSO if u need a video idea, you could try to beat all playable mobile fnaf games (but ar to protect your privacy)
FOR EVERYONE WONDERING: The backdoor is not present on the public version of this mod. Spiff got a special version of the mod which had a backdoor that the developers could use to mess with Spiff specifically. Plus, it wouldn't make a difference, as they could just inject the malicious payload in the source code of the mod itself.
Yeah I get why people are wary of the mod, but like, I think they're overreacting, I'm sure the dev had no malicious intent with the whole "interacting in game" thing, I really think it was just to be funny, and like, why would the dev ship the mod publicly with a "backdoor" anyway? Idk I think people are being a bit too crazed about it
@@BupboyI think this kind of thing is not something you should even do for a “special version” because now anyone who downloads the mod will wonder if it has a back door
@@steveisthecommissar4013 It's funny to me people are scared about this but not the kernel-installation that other major gaming companies do with "anti-cheat" software and so forth.
@@steveisthecommissar4013 Wow theyll wonder about something that doesnt exist!! Might as well wonder if aliens could spawn in your home when you open the game, or if your pc sprouts legs and starts walking away!! The "backdoor" cannot physically retrieve any information or send any scripts.
19:46 sunflower, blowver, magnet, starfruit, tall nut, pumpkin, the rest is your choice (I assume its survival day hard) 20:19 ya ikr? you got cherry bomb you'll be fine for like... 30 seconds
Spiff, when you showed that picture of you, Jerma, and EasySpeezy, I realized that you and Easy could be brothers… AND you two are some of my favorite difficulty/speed gamers on here!
Ive only started watching you pretty recently, but you’re quickly becoming one of my favorite content creators, every video has such a high amount of professionalism and every video Is very entertaining, It also helps that you seem to be getting better every vid, keep it up youre the best
wow that sure was a chaos mod. maybe with too much chaos. made it kinda unwatchable. could do with less annoying jokes and actually focusing on making the game chaotic. just throwing a stretched ytp on the screen and playing loud, outdated references got old. not to mention the developer's remote access - I'm sure it only lets them add pictures and text and audio and triggering events, but it just doesn't add anything and it has _bad_ security implications.
Im pretty sure the reason why the animatronics get pathing in some places where it seems like they shouldnt, is because MXES has to have a nav mesh to move around, so anywhere where MXES can be, animatronics can navigate/move. You might think, "wait, but wouldnt that mean that only the mask world should have a nav mesh? Since thats where mxes is?", but unfortunately the answer is no, since both places are loaded at the same time, and are the same map technically, they likely just generated a nav mesh for both with a single click, even if they only needed it for the mask world. Inconsistencies between the navigation mesh in the two worlds (such as a prop not being in the same place in both) can result in, say, a mini music man choosing to go a different way than its masked counterpart, as it saw that other path as the 'correct' path in its world. Also they can just, yknow, get stuck lol
Heyo hope you’re enjoying sensory overload: the video
I want to clear up that I was never at any risk of spyware from the mod developers. It works by encoding a message that contains the command to execute and everything else necessary into an image. The image contains the message in its pixels. That image is then uploaded to a server that the mod constantly checks while its running. When there is a new image, it gets downloaded, decoded and executed.
In pleb terms, basically the mod checks a server for stuff the devs send, never actually interacting with my computer and they can’t receive anything back. All of this was also almost exclusively set up for my stream and is fully off. As well. They’ve added this disclaimer to the mod website.
I wasn’t very pleased that they didn’t tell me about it, but I trust the group and we worked out that I’d like more explanation in the future
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As long as youre safe, spiffy :)
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Glad you cleared it up cuz people are super freaked out abt it, even tho it makes more sense to me that it was just for this stream and whatnot
I think for the future Spiff, you should maybe make sure if there is a backdoor, it's atleast known. It just feels really bad to have one randomly even if it's all safe, you never know what could happen
I think other peeps have probably already pointed this out, but when I did my mimic pursuit run (that OmegaaDev also made), I realized that the intro to the game lacks any sort of navigational mesh. This is because there aren't normally any free-roaming animatronics present in that location, so if you spawn them in, they just stand around since they can't essentially calculate how to get to you.
Omg horror scoped watches astralspiff!
Pretty sure any game area where enemies never walk in or spawn lack navmesh
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So, the reason the lads can’t move during the entrance bit is because that chapter just doesn’t have a NavMesh (basically an addition to the floor that’s basically a carpet that pathfinding happens on) but for other chapters, there is a NavMesh
Isn't that what gmod maps use for nextbots as well?
@@theonetruedoggo4808 it’s a very common pathfinding system. Unity has it as a usable feature by default
@@theonetruedoggo4808 pretty much in every 3D game, if a character or enemy needs to move in a way that isn't mapped out before hand (i.e. moving back and forth or in a circle), it uses a nav-mesh
@@theonetruedoggo4808 All AI in GMOD/Source Engine games use a navmesh. Half Life 2 was one of the first games to really highlight the use of navmeshes in its AI design, and so a bunch of mod for it/games made on the engine make use of its ability to highlight paths and direct the AI organically through complicated structures.
NextBots are just an extremely efficient pathing module for Source Engine navmesh code. They don't do any complicated "Move to cover/shoot at target" calculations like the base game AI/Combine Soldiers do, their only objective is to move as quickly as possible from one point to another using the navmesh. The navmesh in Source Engine games works extremely well for those purposes....if you've remembered to actually set one up for that map.
If you load an NPC or NextBot into one of the older modded maps that doesn't have an updated navmesh setup they will struggle to even move at all.
@@icantthinkofanythingclever5979 you can also use a nav mesh for mapped out behaviour too, most modern 3d games use navmesh for everything regarding npc movement
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dawg seeing “faz glock” in ruin was not something i ever expected to see but here we are
Watching this guy feels like watching a man get past a 40 foot wall with nothing but a glass of water. This man does the most ungodly challenges.
what an outlandish yet perfectly reasonable comparison to spiff
When it comes to the backdoor issue, there’s a pretty good video on the idea by Spaceman Scott where he talks about the idea in relation to Welcome to the Game. In short, it’s important for that type of thing to be “opt in” so that people aren’t blindsided, especially during a livestream. In this case it wasn’t malicious, and was able to be worked out by spiff and the devs, but this type of thing can easily go wrong with the wrong person in charge
Yeah it's crazy that people CREATE backdoors like that, let alone accept them. It's totally unnecessary and you have to ask who is it for?
@@blueshellincidentyou have no idea how many backdoors you accept daily if that's your definition of one
@@blueshellincident Read the pinned comment. This isnt a backdoor 💀 if so then any app that developers can remotely update (like Discord) is also a "backdoor" 😱
@@unfathomablyunfathomable Any software you update can become a trojan or worse if the developer or whoever has access to the servers can upload a version with malicious code. This has actually been documented in many other pentesting studies in the past.
an off the top of my head example is for the apple store, it was possible to backdoor many devices because once you uploaded a good version of software, they didn't vet updates of the code past that. That was official platforms too. This is a mod. Anyway, If it's communicating enough for the dev to fuck with an OFFLINE GAME to a streamer on a completely different network, then it can definitely be abused / exploited to do a lot more harm than janking up your run on stream. Earlier in the video, it was able to open youtube links and tab his game out. It's literally executing code on his system to do that.
Edit: Context.
@@somedude9316 I understand your concerns but I believe it was only Spiff's version of the game that they could do this with so any other copy should be fine.
I don't believe they were able to execute code directly since the game doesn't have admin perms. But you know how Discord can open websites if you click a link? There's probably something similar going on.
Still they very much should've told him beforehand
“I was never told that the developers could interact with my game live” Is a WILD statement because that’s so dangerous while streaming. Of course the devs clearly didn’t have any malicious intentions but if they did this would be a complete shitshow. Please, developer(s) that worked on that part of this mod, TELL SPIFF NEXT TIME AND MAKE SURE HE IS OKAY WITH IT!! Boundaries are important, especially when it comes to someone else being able to put up things on your stream.
People used to do this when they made games too.
Think the most famous was the ClusterTruck game.
Hard to trust devs when they pull stunts like that.
@@LegendConsole Clustertruck was a twitch integration people willingly could put on that gave them access through twitch itself, not a backdoor. That was different, and for streaming purposes only.
i thought he was talking about the devs of sb ruin...
@@alienswearbeanies no way, steel wool is NOT like that at all 😭
the most notable incident of that was the "welcome to the game 2" so much so it even had a whole video dedicated to it
There's a reason why the original chaos mod for GTAV had a lot of time in between events, and most of these events weren't long as hell, while also being completely unwatchable, because of how often they overlap
I must say tho, Day 2 was WAY better. I think the part about random animatronics spawning is the one that ruins haha experience the most, other than that I would say Day 2 was pretty enjoyable
Both of the chaos mods are too much and way too random IMO. Should be more interesting events using in game content rather than "haha meme blocks your screen." It's just not very fun.
@@blueshellincident Yeah there's a lot about these "chaos mods" that frustrates me a lot. The fact that the distractions are usually dumb memes that have nothing to do with the spirit of FNAF, the fact some events just kills the run instantly without any way of stopping it
niko pfp :D
erm what the niko
I remember the dev interrupting the game getting old fast. The fact they didn’t even make spiff aware that they had remote access to his game was also kinda scummy too.
i feel like not disclosing that kind of thing is a massive security breach (no pun intended).
Yeah, but if Spiff doesnt mind it then it's excusable. If there is a next time, they should definitely ask.
there is no world where this is an ok thing to do
@@arandomcommenter412 there's no real scenario where doing it w/o telling him is excusable t b h.
@@arandomcommenter412 It really doesn’t, something like that should ALWAYS be disclosed up front, regardless of intent. If anything it’s concerning that an offline game was able to be accessed remotely without disclosing it to Spiff.
“We killed the mimic with the faz glock” was both perfect and sent me laughing like crazy
Is it just me or is the chaos mod only actually difficult because of a few events, mainly the ones that completely block your vision, leaving no way to actually survive, and the ones that either delete saves or close the game. The Choas mod seems to be more of a Russian roulette but every bullet is loaded except one
Can't help but agree. I wasn't keeping track, but it seems like almost a dozen effects either cause a premature death (like Tactical Nuke, Ded, AE) or cause an effect that is basically a restart (the minigames and some vision-changing effects). It's less of a challenge and more of just dying to random effects, which doesn't seem very fun.
I think if there were fewer ways to auto-kill the player, or more ways to play around the kill mechanics, I think it would be better. Red Light Green Light is an interesting example, but usually a random animatronic would just kill Spiff regardless.
Its almost like they purposefully tried to make this mod as bad as they could
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To be fair, it's called CHAOS mod, no one said it be great
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@@NagaGaming76There's a difference between Chaos, and unfair. It can still be chaotic but actually well made, which this mod was not.
The modders intentionally messing with you was pretty scummy. I know you were never at the risk for spyware and it's been cleared up with them, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth watching this. That aside, I think a lot of the events are too chaotic to be enjoyable. Events where you're instantly killed shouldn't be a thing. I think a copyright free mode is necessary when dealing with a mod meant for streaming. Events that change the visuals need to reverse themselves after short period. I've got no clue if any of these were changed up through the stream as I'm part way through Day 1.
Editing to say it seems like a lot of the issue I've had were cleared up and fixed. It's really good the devs could take some of the complaints into consideration and actually fix them.
#1 your statement on events are too chaotic to be enjoyable. .. thats the point. its the chaos mod. it was the same with the first one. Chaotic. as it should be
#2 copyright free mode applies to a very very small amount of events. which you hardly even get with the amount of chaos. but i see your concern.
#3 visual changes again, takes away from the CHAOS in the CHAOS mod. C C C C H A O S
#4 your points on spyware and that being scummy is understandable but an overreaction. they just wanted to mess with spiff. go read his comment.
@NowPIaying Unsure why you decided to reply to me as this comment is 5 months old, but
I think there is a fine line between it being chaotic and being enjoyable and then being chaotic and absolutely overwhelming and unplayable. I felt at the time of writing this that the mod crossed over into overwhelming and unplayable with everything going on. I know the point of it is to be chaotic, but what's the point to all the fun chaos if you're completely overwhelmed and can't enjoy it?
As for visual stuff, even Mario 64 Chaos Edition's visual effects changed, switched out, and reverted to my memory of watching that particular mod. I don't see why this mod couldn't have done the same.
As for the spyware comment, I know what Spiff said. I read his comment. It's why I said at the start of my comment that I know he was never at risk of spyware and that it's been cleared up with them. I never said it was spyware or that Spiff was going to get spyware. I just said I thought it was scummy and that it left a bitter taste in my mouth. Maybe you should re-read the start of my comment.
I'm wary of this mod for security (heh) reasons. Being able to arbitrarily display images and text means whoever is running the control software (or a third party potentially) could likely also send malicious payloads. I doubt the dev has anything malicious in mind, they just seem silly, but it would be nice for them to update the description about how their remote control panel is secured. Unfortunately even other developers likely won't have the tools to check the dev's work unless they're already UE modders since all the control panel stuff is inside of compiled UE binaries.
Edit: I did some research, the version publically available doesn't have the remote access built in and it has been removed from their code repo as of June 5th. Still kinda cringe to commit a cardinal programming sin as a haha silly bit but chase your bliss I guess.
It’s definitely something that should be disclosed for a multitude of reasons. In my personal opinion I don’t think it should even be a thing, twitch integrations are possible like in Clustertruck to add value to streaming to the game with game dev fuckery, I don’t see why people go this route
Are we certain the remote access isnt available in the files provided through the mod page's google drive link pre-requisite for getting the mod to work?
Still, Spiff didn't know that the devs literally backdoored his computer.
I guess you could say his Security was…
…what?
@@evildeathmanofdeath they didn't
Spiff is the only person I know who would for some GOD FORSAKEN REASON look at a challage like this and think
"Nah, I'd beat it"
"Nah, I'd win"
The bandicam watermark should be permanent on every spiff stream
Its wild to me how:
- The devs didnt remove instant crash events/Instant kill events
- Installed a backdoor onto Spiff's PC WITHOUT TELLING HIM
- Generally didnt account for softlock situations.
- Made Visual events PERMANENT
I understand that with so many events you cant account for everything, but for how often Spiff seemed to get softlocked it feels kinda meh. Enemies spawning is kinda bad, its just artificial difficulty inflation. Maybe make them 4-5 Events instead of always spawning enemies.
Like Good Job devs, you made a great mod. But. Uh.
Disclose Backdoors. (Or just dont add them) and Remove the Instakill/Crash Events. (EA, The Arcade games etc.)
The event ones, that’s the whole point of a chaos mod. To be utter bullshit. The backdoor yeah I agree with.
Agree on the backdoor stuff, but the instakill stuff is fine. With auto saves, it's much less of a pain and can even be considered a blessing
spiff added the enemy spawning himself
Firstly, it's called the Chaos mod because it's chaotic. I'm pretty sure the intent isn't to actually be able to beat the game with it.
Second, it's not a back door. Read the pinned comment
@@armygamelover it could be used as a backdoor
I feel like this would be infinitely more fun to watch if it was just messing with shit like enemy spawns and general difficulty changes, or even map mods, but it's like 90% adding random shit to the screen and it makes for a god awful viewing experience.
Exactly, trying to watch DarkViperAU's GTA 5 Zchaos video felt like staring into a monitor thats just flashing rgb colors very fast. This is very similiar.
dude reading this actually enhanced the pain and now my headache is way worse
Real! This video is borderline unwatchable I can't imagine how the live experience was.
Who even knows how much access they had to his computer during all this. If they could remotely add pictures to the screen, could they also secretly inject a payload to remotely access his PC without the mod running? The fact this was undisclosed to Spiff is a serious breach of trust and he should cut them out of his mod group (I don't know how many people worked on the mod, but some of them are mods on his Twitch channel).
@@pocketsizedweeb Devs in the discord said it was a discord bot
I feel like the biggest thing this mod could benefit from is copyright free alternatives to its sound based distractions. I don't wanna take away the Rick Roll, don't get me wrong. but its seems like quite the legal pain the the butt, so to speak.
the constant muting for copyright purposes is so annoying 😭 really devalues from any funny factor it could have
The Rick roll was the devs arbitrarily doing something I believe. Maybe I am wrong
On Day 2 they added a "Streamer Mode" toggle to disable the copyrighted events.
@@Millekop Well that's a decent fix, but I feel its still against the spirit. Using different audio for Rick Roll (Perhaps the one Kane Carter used for his Rick Roll?) would make things still have that FUN factor, y'know?
For legal reasons-
I appreciate putting the link for the mod in the desc, but theres NO WAY I'm downloading a backdoor to my computer
edit: I made this original comment very quick after the vid came out and before the pinned because I had already seen part of the vod, also, Spiff's pinned comment cleared things up, so read it instead.
Apparently the public version doesn’t allow for that, but I’m not completely sure
how is it a backdoor?
@@basicname1555 Do you know it isn't?
There's evidence that the game regularly executes enough code for two-way communication with a server (GET requests, whether implemented by opening a browser window, or more directly - as in the image download - _can_ be used to indirectly transmit information to a server).
There's no evidence that the code utilises this in any way, but there's no evidence it doesn't, either. You'd probably need some proper RE to confirm, one way or another.
And note that, just because a backdoor isn't _intended,_ doesn't mean that there's no risk of one. Depending on whether this is written in a memory safe or unsafe language, the possibility of memory manipulation is a huge potential risk.
I don't personally think this was intended maliciously. But it's worth bearing in mind how easily a program with these capabilities _could_ have been malicious.
cool video, but yeah that whole access to manipulate the game as you're playing is super sketch. It's just a bit reminiscent of the "Welcome to the game"s developer doing something similar. There's an interesting video by Spaceman Scott about that situation.
Right, I instantly thought of that too, that dev was power tripping like a mf, and the game isn't even that good- just annoying as all hell. It's very clear he made that game just to annoy whoever is playing it, but also wanted the fame of creating a "hard scary game".
Yeah this is exactly where my mind jumped too. That guy was abusive with the people that played his game and I have no intention of supporting him or people that mimic him whatsoever.
@@LoreCatan power tripping like… a what? Edit: ok they fixed it
@@poppyseed799 I meant mf for motherfucker, I didn't realize until I googled it that I used the wrong abbreviation. I'll edit that now, thx.
@@noviolam2618I don't quite see the jump from "dev made a bad mod" to "dev is abusive"
Spiff dealing with flashbangs, Tactical nukes and roaming animatronics.
Clutch checkpoints: "You didn't think I'd leave you behind, did you?"
For legal reasons, I'm praying the creators learned from the first time around and this one isn't as frustrating
Got some bad news for you
“It might seem crazy what I’m ‘bout to say”
This mod feels like how the Internet felt in the 2010s. They even dug up NyanCat.
And the death note meme, that was a blast from the past
Cool AstralSpiff content, but I hope you establish some boundaries with the guys. Them having livelink to your comp, especially without you knowing? While you are live? There is a lot of capacity for abuse in that, even if you trust them. It only takes one person willing to abuse that with the anonymity of the internet for that to be pretty damaging. I recall a Zoom meeting that got out of control.
Yeaaaaah, it would've been a lot better if they actually told Spiff about that part of the mod, t b h.
Imo it was pretty unacceptable them not telling him the mod could do that
it's still kind of untrustworthy that they added it at all, thats never been a normal thing for people to do
super sus and I can't really blame spiff if he doesn't really mess with the guys anymore
I feel like it wouldn’t even ruin the mod’s funniness if he had been aware they at least had access beforehand, it’s such a personal breach to just not tell him that
@@iconica9516 still buckling in to watch the video but seriously people we should be reporting mods for giving backdoor access
8:47 I was drinking water and almost died because of this.
Mfw undisclosed back-door built into the mod for an offline game
mfw you don't know how a backdoor works
@@galaxythebathow is anything they said wrong?
@@JusticeGivenForm you can literally read Spiff's own comment on how this Wasn't a backdoor
It's not a backdoor they don't have access to his computer
@@Noel-300 don't they mean back door to the game, not the pc itself??
the outlined textures at the beginning genuinely make it look like a borderlands location
like not just that it's outlined but the destroyed nature of everything and the lighting
For those who didn't notice it, the endless abyss falls at 8:15 was caused by the "Autosave" event that saved the game at 7:08, midway through the tunnel cutscene.
I said it on the first VOD of the "challenge" and I'll say it here. This would've been so much better without the devs interfering constantly. It turns it from chaos mod to mod dev fucks with streamer. The fact that the devs even put in a remote backdoor is kind of suspicious, but not telling Spiff it was there is a definite breach of trust. I'm never downloading this virus and I hope to never see this mod be used maliciously (I'm 95% certain it will once the devs read all these negative comments about it).
I’ve heard from another person in this comment section that the public version of this mod doesn’t allow the devs to do that, though I can’t personally confirm this
Also (as someone who’s currently only a third through the video) the devs promised to stop interacting with Spiff’s game for the second stream, and I can only assume that they kept that promise
The fact that they didn't tell him is so shitty
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i doubt the mod creators are supervillains LOL
Oh no!! I don't know anything about the mod and didnt read Spiff's pinned comment and now I'm fearmongering about something that doesnt exist!! Let's all pretend that there was any form of spyware or real backdoor in the game just to jump on the hate train!!!
The amount of times during this video I thought “man, that’s a wierd edit for spiff to make” only for it to actually be part of the game is staggering
I'm very impressed by the fact Spiff seems to just casually brush off the fact he had a remote backdoor installed on his PC by mod devs he supposedly was on good terms with.
They could've just bricked his PC if they wanted to.
Probably because it’s not a backdoor, read the pinned comment
@@ZGh0st1422 The pinned comment just explains that Spiff doesn't understand what a backdoor is, this is absolutely remote access and could be used to execute code.
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 a backdoor would mean they’d have access to secured parts of spiffs computer, but that’s not what the mod did. Thanks for once again proving YOU don’t understand what a backdoor is
@@ZGh0st1422 If they can access his game, they can get access to the rest of his computer by the same method.
And I'll have you know I have a master's degree in computer science.
@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 it’s always the self proclaimed “experts” that seem to not know what they’re talking about 😂 having access to your own mod doesn’t mean you can access every file in someone’s computer. Must suck to put yourself in so much debt just to not know what a backdoor is
I gotta say, that tactical nuke during the Monty backstory cutscene was genuinely cinematic. I was on the edge of my seat, felt like there was a real sense of danger as the building collapsed around her. Good cutscene.
In Unreal engine, AI requires a navmesh to move, and since there's never supposed to be any ai in the beginning segment, there's no navmesh. That's why the animatronics aren't moving.
I love how Monty is consistently the greatest threat Spiff faces in anything Security Breach related even though he's kind of pathetic when you play the game as intended
The nice thing about spiff is that if he starts a challenge, *he finishes it*
Awesome to see the progress he makes with each stream.
Except superstar mod... but you didn't hear that from me hehe
Jesus Christ this chaos mod is horrible. The mod creators adding a backdoor without telling Spiff or having it on the mod page is actually disturbing. Imagine if one of the people controlling Spiff's game just decided to throw p*rn on the screen "for the funnies". The mod creators didn't even use the function well, mostly using it to just spam unfunny lukewarm memes. And then there's the fact that despite knowing you're a streamer, they proceeded to fill the mod and screen with copyrighted music. And then there's the deleting of the save file...my god, I could feel my blood boiling more and more as the video went on, and not because you were getting "trolled" by the actual effects.
"Erm I just downloaded a Remote Access Trojan to your computer lol!!!"
Yeah I'd be surprised if Spiff ever does anything with these guys again.
I mean they removed copyright music and save deletion second day. I think the mod devs just thought “more random is funny”, but took the feedback and used it and fixed it quickly.
except they aren't controlling spiffs computer. You dont have to be a genius to realize this
@@basicname1555 they never said the mod was?
@@hotpocketsat2am that's what a backdoor does.
It's a way to gain access to someones computer and control it manually.
So either
A.) They are just using big words that everyone else is using
B.) They are similar to the dum-dum lolipops
Just casually putting an RCE exploit into a game mod
Fr lol
39:55 LMAO I wasn’t expecting that
OMG HIII!
If mod devs EVER plan to mess with someone’s computer directly, not only do they need to have consent, but it should be listed on the page. It was a shitty thing to do without saying anything.
It doesnt mess with the computer directly in any way. It is not a backdoor.
@@unfathomablyunfathomableeven if. They could have done so many thing in the game alone that would've gotten the channel striked
Nothing like watching spiff revisit an older video topic to cause himself more pain
Spiff was right, this is more chaotic than the base sb mod, also the fazglock actually doing something is really funny. Anyways great video Spiff and Connor, keep up the good work!!
In todays episode, the modders made a malware for spiff to download. How quirky
I feel like this mod would be really fun if it was around 60 seconds instead of 10.
The mod's settings:
Honestly the devs having access and interacting with the game without Spiff’s knowledge is fucking creepy. Spiff handled it well, even with all the just plain attention seeking and annoying trolling, but even has a viewer all I could think of the game Parasocial where something somewhat similar happened
I was curious about what you're talking about, so I looked that game up and don't see anything about someone having access to another's computer. Unless you mean, like, in-universe. That might make some sense, I suppose.
@@randibillett472iirc in parasocial it’s about a vtuber and a viewer is stalking her or something? but they get remote access to the mcs computer and leaks their face and stuff. I think that’s what they’re talking about. So yes in universe
The fazbear the freddy, the sweeter the juice
The fazbear the freddy, the bigger I shoot
The fazbear the freddy, the fazgoo GhostintheSea(dude above me) sploots
@@justaghostinthesea Fredrick Lamar
the fazzer the feddy, the more i cu-
@@nzslol FredPac
It was an honor to help Spiff through the daycare! My odd obsession with the daycare really came in clutch. It was fun being plinKed.
To Plink Or Not To Plink That Is The Real Question
For legal reasons thank god they removed the back door nonsense after day one.
Gregory because of legal reasons you are being sent back to Freddys room
-The good SB chaos mod
Spiff, for legal reasons, you will now be taken to the main menu.
I'm kind of sad there was no "raw Roxy" reference, I would've loved to see that reference
These mods always seem to come short of the inspiration. In Chaos Mario, there is a lot of stuff to mess with the player but it also lets you use the chaos to your advantage and create a new experience. These just always feel like trying to beat the base game will random shit is thrown in your face and instead of being its own unique challenge just makes it feel like a test of patience. I think it worked better in SB as theres more tech you can use to bypass or manuever the challenges thrown in you way, but in this game you just have to push through until you get sick of it. While mods are hard to put into place this one just feels like a slapped together shitpost when I think the idea could still work given more thought. Great as always to spiff as he still made it enjoyable while sick, but I felt like without someone entertaining to watch, the mod itself would be just annoying to get through.
55:14 This is hands down the funniest sequence in the video. Overcaffinated Monty.
What I learned from this video is that Spiff can not, or is unable to see any hud elements that are in the middle of the screen. My man even committed as far as to be completely still on the green light and immediately start moving on the red light
Now Ruin is ruined...
Why does the devs have control over the game here? I definitely don't trust them, they seem scummy to have not even told Spiff. I hope spiff has a way to block them from doing it again. The backdoor is bullshit, and hope they didn't do anything to his computer
Seriously he should go through and check EVERYTHING and maybe even hard wipe his pc to make sure there is nothing left behind, they essentially ratted him. Every single thing on his pc could have been seen and taken by them
And having it linked in the description is extremely dangerous because it could lead to hundreds or even thousands of other knowledgeable people getting ratted by them too
Yea exactly! That's why i am worried and don't trust these devs
Chat all of the comments are shitting on a dev for doing something that wasnt even done to you chat. Help.
@@bannan2781 the devs had access to spiff's computer, how do u expect us to react? It's dangerous for people to have a backdoor to your pc, it can be used for stealing data and such.
I haven't made it far yet, but I must say: I love the disturbed surprise on Spiff's face at 8:46. He sort of flinches back and just holds that position until whatever it was passed. Absolutely amazing.
Opened a train game vid and youtube showed this in the sidebar, actually thankful for a UA-cam recommendation for once.
yooooo what train game viddddd
blanana and his team are good people. Yes, in a hypothetical situation they could have not been. But they were and really that's all that matters. They are apart of his mod team and spiff has worked with them a BUNCH. I wouldnt call it scummy and I wouldnt bring on hate towards blanana and their team in any way. They just made a mistake, that's all. And mistakes happen. Nothing bad happened and that's what matters. Props to blanana and the team for making this mod. Genuinely it's so cool that they even managed to make something so chaotic work AT ALL. Regardless of how many times it broke lol.
*apart from
The real chaos is the crippling gambling addiction that chat has
"I bet you don't even have friends."
*Cassie:* (Crying)
i swear to fucking god if the "faz glock" isn't an actual glock i'm gonna flip my shit
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Bro flipped his shit
that ifunnyco watermark is such a flashbang every single time man
that backdoor thing is SUPER messed up and just rlly weird, doesnt hurt to ask if spiff is okay with it. either way its messed up since anyone can download this, i know it was "deleted" but yikes!!!also, this chaos mod wouldve been a lot more fun to watch if it changed stuff with the animatronics or smth, not just adding unfunny ytp clips or random wacky images/sfx
It isn't a backdoor and cant be used to run any scripts and only images. They have no way of retrieving any information from your PC and they cant interact with it in any way. Please stop fearmongering.
@@unfathomablyunfathomable how dare someone not be familliar with the exact definition of a term
@@hotpocketsat2am I mean if they're gonna be throwing accusations it's probably a good idea to understand what tf they're talking about 😭
I’m confused on why Spiff even bothered finishing this mod as it looked miserable to play.
I just finished rewatching all of your security breach videos and thought that it would be really cool if you posted one right after i finished, and here we are, it was actually perfect timing
id have a whole autistic meltdown playing this lmaoo
You might as well played the game blinded folded and had the same experience as playing this mod.
After watching your videos for a few years, Spiff, it dawned on me that FNAF is just the new generation's Goosebumps. That's kind of rad. And thank you for being a chill dude that restores a bit of my faith in humanity.
I know many have said this but yeau the back door thing is...yikes i wish they had at lest told spiff either somewhere in the mod or dms...i get it if hes unbothered but somthing about it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth
“All dreams have meaning”
My dreams:
There is no sanity in spiffs mindhole anymore
Spigg had sanity?
“ruin chaos mod” is a scary sentence😭
Achuelly that ichnt a centans 🤓
Fun mod to watch and maybe even try, but I am not going to download a potential spyware just for the lulz. WTF dev? Remote control to the game and maybe whole PC? Without ever disclosure it? And how after that I could trust that they "remove" it in later updates?
There’s somehow more mess on the screen than 50/20 in that mod
I watched Connor edit this and I think he wanted to throw himself off a cliff
Still better than Peaks.
26:54 help I cant stop laughing “THE MIMIC”🗣🔥
That siren sounded so real oml I had to take off my headphones to check it wasn't irl
Spiff, lovely video as always. A real fun time and funny content. But please, make zure you take care of yoursekd and protect your personal information and system. ❤
I just realized I’m growing up. I was actually busy that I didn’t see spiff uploaded. Being an adult is crazy
27:13
Helpy was REALLY gaslighting you here XD
Day 1 was so brutal just like SB chaos then Day 2 was actually insane progress wise
Apparently, one of the events is “Dance Break” and that opens your webcam, which is a privacy breach. Quite scummy devs if I’ve seen any
Good video, I feel happy to know i was the first person to say E (Ivygrows8whacko) when due to cinematic mode you couldn't do the node thingy :) ALSO if u need a video idea, you could try to beat all playable mobile fnaf games (but ar to protect your privacy)
I paused the video to go do something at around 15:40 and when I came back the first thing I heard was "I don't mind talking about my balls!"
I've just woken up and I can't tell if it's because of how tired I am, or because of the mod if I am struggalling to see anything
I’ve been sleeping to the last chaos mod for the past couple of nights, fantastic to see another entry for my sleepy time videos
Guys I think really spiff liked mr hippo's speech
48:18 that tactical nuke bit had Me dying, perfectly timed
I'd like to use Spigg as a role model, then he does this and completely ruins my plans.
Thanks, DAVID.
Mimic: chases you for 30 seconds.
EA: GIVE ME MONEY!!!!
FOR EVERYONE WONDERING: The backdoor is not present on the public version of this mod. Spiff got a special version of the mod which had a backdoor that the developers could use to mess with Spiff specifically. Plus, it wouldn't make a difference, as they could just inject the malicious payload in the source code of the mod itself.
Yeah I get why people are wary of the mod, but like, I think they're overreacting, I'm sure the dev had no malicious intent with the whole "interacting in game" thing, I really think it was just to be funny, and like, why would the dev ship the mod publicly with a "backdoor" anyway? Idk I think people are being a bit too crazed about it
@@BupboyI think this kind of thing is not something you should even do for a “special version” because now anyone who downloads the mod will wonder if it has a back door
@@steveisthecommissar4013 It's funny to me people are scared about this but not the kernel-installation that other major gaming companies do with "anti-cheat" software and so forth.
@@ThatGuyInTheBack007 Easy anti-cheat would like a word with the people who are scared of this mod lmao
@@steveisthecommissar4013 Wow theyll wonder about something that doesnt exist!! Might as well wonder if aliens could spawn in your home when you open the game, or if your pc sprouts legs and starts walking away!!
The "backdoor" cannot physically retrieve any information or send any scripts.
32:37 "Win you want me to reboot you *n a u g h t y* " *fnaf 1 jumpscare*,*mxes with buff electric arms appears*,*game over*
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sunflower, blowver, magnet, starfruit, tall nut, pumpkin, the rest is your choice (I assume its survival day hard)
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ya ikr? you got cherry bomb you'll be fine for like... 30 seconds
Spiff, when you showed that picture of you, Jerma, and EasySpeezy, I realized that you and Easy could be brothers… AND you two are some of my favorite difficulty/speed gamers on here!
Oh Jesus. I pray they learned from last time but considering this video also has a day 1 and day 2 it seems like it will be a similar journey
Ive only started watching you pretty recently, but you’re quickly becoming one of my favorite content creators, every video has such a high amount of professionalism and every video Is very entertaining, It also helps that you seem to be getting better every vid, keep it up youre the best
wow that sure was a chaos mod. maybe with too much chaos. made it kinda unwatchable.
could do with less annoying jokes and actually focusing on making the game chaotic. just throwing a stretched ytp on the screen and playing loud, outdated references got old.
not to mention the developer's remote access - I'm sure it only lets them add pictures and text and audio and triggering events, but it just doesn't add anything and it has _bad_ security implications.
It didn’t feel like true chaos tbh, it just felt random and not truly chaos so it felt unwatchable- like you said.
Im pretty sure the reason why the animatronics get pathing in some places where it seems like they shouldnt, is because MXES has to have a nav mesh to move around, so anywhere where MXES can be, animatronics can navigate/move.
You might think, "wait, but wouldnt that mean that only the mask world should have a nav mesh? Since thats where mxes is?", but unfortunately the answer is no, since both places are loaded at the same time, and are the same map technically, they likely just generated a nav mesh for both with a single click, even if they only needed it for the mask world. Inconsistencies between the navigation mesh in the two worlds (such as a prop not being in the same place in both) can result in, say, a mini music man choosing to go a different way than its masked counterpart, as it saw that other path as the 'correct' path in its world.
Also they can just, yknow, get stuck lol