How To "SASQUATCH" A Non-Sasquatch Bronco! New 2021 Bronco Badlands & Big Bend!
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- How To "SASQUATCH" A Non-Sasquatch Bronco! New 2021 Bronco Badlands & Big Bend!In this video the Mizer Brothers compare the new 2021 Bronco Badlands Non-Sasquatch to the 2021 Bronco Big Bend with the Sasquatch Package. The Badlands has been fitted with a set of 17" RTR wheels and 35" tires. They also talk thru the perfect lift to add to your non Sasquatch Package Bronco to get the same or better look as the Sas Package.
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Fantastic video gentlemen! 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks man!
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I have a non-SASQ Badlands as well, as the difference was about $4000 for my configuration, which was a waste of money. (certainly the Sasquatch package is an excellent value for most other trims, but the Badlands already comes with so much) However, I did just get a set of pull-offs, so your video has been helpful for me to work through the steps to make a Badlands Sasquatch on the cheap. I've ordered the taillight extender, the camera issue isn't much of an issue, so not worried about that. I did order the fenders and am looking at a number of leveling kits to achieve parity with the real sasquatch, but don't want to over do it and upset the suspension angles and such. I had read the difference was about .43" so I guess that's about 10mm. Anyway, great video, it seems you guys covered everything with the modifications. Thanks for the leveling kit links too.
Which lift did you end up going with? I have a non-sasquatch 2024 big bend and am looking to throw some take off wheels on it. Not sure how it will look on stock suspension so I need to upgrade to something.. just not sure what yet.
@@benjaminpeace2967 I ended up doing a Zone Off Road 2" level kit, so 2" up front and 1" out back, pretty easy to do, that easier gave me a higher than SASQ lift. The Badlands only starts out .43" lower than the SASQ.
The RTR Bronco has the perfect poke. I’ve also seen custom crash bars that fit perfect with 35s.
Would’ve been cool to see you guys swap the fender flares just to see how they looked with the BFGs
Sasquatch Ford engineered and factory installed, and most important covered under warranty for the long haul.
And with this, you're likely not getting locking diffs and some goat modes, if your Bronco doesn't already have them. i.e. if you have a base.
This is the only real argument, honestly if you know what your equipment does you don't need "GOAT" modes. If your handy enough front and rear lockers aren't an absolute necessity, they are nice to have though.
@@JS-qi1ou Agreed. I'm not sold on goat modes, I do have a left and right foot lol.
I would like at least a rear locker, it gives a bit more power for those unexpected rough spots.
Ford is laughing all the way to the bank on these Sasquatch models. What does a 35 give you that a legit 33 doesn’t? Save a ton of $$$ and buy a Black Diamond which comes with 4.46 gears and a rear locker. You can add a front locker IF you need one, run a good 33 on a 17x9. For ‘22 the Sasquatch adds over $7K to a base. Wheels and tires are ~$3K. A good locker will run you $1,500 installed. Forget the Sasquatch
@@mkbmj Agreed.... just ordered my Black Diamond yesterday.... all i added was the keyless entry, modular bumper and tow package. Can't wait.
Mine 2 door sasquatch around June 14th... and I can't wait
I like this video. I was reconsidering Sas pkg but not anymore. I'm adding Sasquatch 100%.
Smart man!
Yeah, the Sasquatch adds so many true off-road goodies at a no-brainer price! It would cost a small fortune to get the same capabilities with a custom aftermarket build that goes beyond big tires!
you can install larger tires on anything lift kits but you still need the proper shocks and suspension also engine to move those big tires still not a sasquach bronco or aka f150 rapture just for looks plus isues down the road
Trucks are meant to have a rake so when you are carrying things the front end isn't higher than the rear. I don't get the leveling kit thing. That is for people that don't want to use their trucks are trucks.
It's not a truck, it's a Bronco.
Great video..........But the wrinkled up rear windows on those soft tops looks terrible. Big flaw in my book.
I agree. Ford botched all the tops on the Bronco…
I can't wait to see what Shelby is going to do with the Bronco!!!
Absolutely!
You got a point buddy. How the hell did i forgot to mention that?
man I wish he was still alive.
No question, I want the Sas package, but I also want the manual.
I think they will offer that next model year with the bigger engine.
Sorry guys it's not a 10mm lift which is only a little more than 3/8" 0.3937'. I think you are thinking 10cm which is almost 4" 3.937" lift.
Hey John, the overall height difference between a Sasquatch and a non-squatch is nowhere near 4". Between the difference in tire height with 35's on the Sasquatch and a 10 mm or around 3/8 inch lift we're in the ballpark. I know it doesn't sound like much but that's all the difference really is.
@@BackroadDriver How tall is the Ford Bronco with the Sasquatch package?
Wow I put 37's on my F250 one time and had to put a 4" lift to clear the front fenders I just assumed that 10mm was a type O.
Even so the biggest suspension difference is between the base Big Bend @ 72.9 and the Wildtrak @ 75.3 would be only be about 61mm. Kudo to the Bronco designers.
"The height of the Base with the Sasquatch package is 73″, the Big Bend is 72.9″, the Wildtrak is 75.2 75.3″, and Badlands is 73.9″. These specs are for 4-door models."
You didn't address gearing, doesn't the Sas have different final drive ratio?
You're right, gear ratios matter. Not that much though for the typical Bronco owner. We have changed gearing in several vehicles now, unless you change the ratio quite a bit the difference is usually unpersivable to the typical owner.
If you're wanting to build the baddest off-road rig, you're going to want to pay attention to that. Serious off-road rigs will probably have the gears swapped out to a 4.x ratio. That itself will cost a couple grand so you could save some money possibly!??
On a manual badlands, the gearing is the same as a sasquatch, 4.7
Yeah, I'm going with a Badlands 2.7, just on the fence for Sas. At that point it's bigger tires, crash bars already removed, gearing, extended rear camera & 3rd brake (which I now know, thanks to this video). Not sure that's worth $2.5k. I don't like the rims either way, so those have to go. 1st world problems
So when you guys get yours? My build date is 8/23 🤞🏼. It changed from 6/21, to 7/13, to 8/2 to 8/23.
We don’t even have a build date…
That sucks. Sorry guys. Hopefully Ford hook y’all up soon. Enjoying the context keep it coming.
What offset are the RTR wheels
What color is the Sasquatch bronco?
💀The fit and finish around the door glass is..... Lacking!
First thing I noticed when I went to see one was that I could get my finger behind the door glass easily. The Bronco has no window metal channels, there’s just soft weather stripping that the glass rests on.
That’s any auto criminals dream, just stretch that window out and you’re in!
I’m not a fan of door glass the doesn’t sit in a channel when closed.
I love Fords and am faithful as a dog but, I gotta call it the way I see it, and in my opinion an error was made.
Besides that, Ford needs to give the people what they want and that’s a 5.0 Bronco. With window channels!☠️
You are dead on.
Non-Sasquatch way better
did they say 10mm lift? what is that like 3/8 of an inch?
Yep
Yea, that's not correct!
Can i tow my rzr?
I think one rzr on a trailer should be good. Look up the tow ratings.
35s on the 2 door look a bit ridiculous, they only work on the 4 door.
You guys forgot the most important things about the Sasquatch package!! The properly geared diffs for the bigger tires, and the bilstein position sensitive shocks! Come on clowns!
This non Sas has 4.70 gears. I’m not a clown…
@@BackroadDriver you guys claim “everything you need to know” but nothing was mentioned about those two things. You missed some big ticket items!
If someone ordered a non-SAS Bronco and wants to put bigger tires on it, it's already too late to worry about the gearing and the shocks. It would cost thousands of dollars to upgrade those components at this point. This video isn't for hardcore off-roaders, it's for the average person that bought a Bronco to look cool.
@@BackroadDriver maybe you should change the title to reflect your purpose then. “How to make it LOOK like a Sasquatch.” I was expecting more info about the legit details that make it a Sasquatch but I’m probably crazy! Lol.
I actually strongly prefer the poke of the wheel on the non Sasquatch Bronco with 35's VS the wider flares on the Sasquatch model.
Just my own personal preference. 🤷🏼♂️
def personal preference. I HATE the polk look myself. bleh
The only thing Ford messed up with the Sasquatch pkg was not going with KO2’s.
Bingo...
I don't know could come with a manual.
And not offering the manual transmission
@@OlayerB unless Ford reneged I thought you could get the 7 speed with the squatch package, I thought it was the V6 was the only option that didn't allow the 7 speeed
I knew those RTR “Ranger” wheels would fit the Bronco just fine. On their page I’m pretty sure the “Bronco” wheels are sold out, but the “Ranger” wheels aren’t. They’re the same wheel!
The Badlands comes with front and rear lockers, whether it be the 7 speed or either 10 speed auto. It is the only trim that doesn't need the Sasquatch package to have lockers in the front. The 7 speed and the Sasquatch are both 4.7 rear diffs.
Thank you for knowing this. About 20 keyboard warriors have tried to hammer us and say you have to get Sas to get front locker and 4.7 gears. We have stopped explaining it to them.
7 speed nonsquatch are 4:46 ratio which is in the m220 axles. M220 axles only run 4:46 or 4:70
@@gldmembr6132 The Badlands is 4.7, manual or auto.
@@EZapar True man, I have a 7MT and it has 4.7, non-sas, Badlands. To me it's the best package. All goes well, I will be buying some Sas pull-offs tomorrow to Sasq my Badlands.
Without SAS you don't get the heavy front diff or front and rear lockers. Unless you want a mall crawler don't put 35's on a Bronco unless it's the Badlands which already has the heavier diff and lockers
It's almost like people have gone off-road without front and rear lockers before. Not every trail is the MOAB, Rubicon, the Fordyce trail, you can still do alot without lockers.
Dude you don’t need lockers to do basic trails lol some people will not be doing extreme rock crawling and who cares what bronco decide to get to fit their lifestyle.
@@lupehn you also need to worry about gearing too since both trims have different drive ratios
went to the NH Bronco OffRodeo - drove a 2 door thru some gnarly stuff. never had to use the lockers.
@@rret6885 same!
Something most people miss that is a huge advantage to the factory Sasquatch package is the 4.7 gears. People upgrading and throwing on 35s usually aren’t thinking about regearing.
True but not if you get the manual trans. Manual has 4.46 diff gears, which are very close to Sas 4.7. Under 200 rpm difference between the two. Also half the people buying Sas probably never leave the pavement, so the functionality is all wasted on them aside from the mild lift and larger tires.
good thing the Badlands I just ordered comes with 4.7 gears.
Non Sasquatch looks more appealing to me with 35’s and leveling kit . That color is cool as well . Nice job
Why is that ?
Wow! This is one of the most useful Bronco videos i’ve seen. So many people wondering about this exact same question since many have ordered non-Sasquatch and actually want the bigger tires, but unfortunately seldom has been talked about. Thank you guys and thumbs up. Next video i guess BFGs vs the goodyear Wranglers , thats another question so many are wondering about the Bronco. 😍👍
Thanks Mishal!
BIg tires are one thing, but for tuff usage you should still at least get one of the more offroad capable trims, or squatch it, for the better differentials, suspension, and gearing. For light offroading and mall bling this is a useful video.
If you ever went on the bronco forums you would know that it's much cheaper to just get the factory sasquatch package then trying to buy all the items and put them on the base model. The sasquatch package is like half a dozen things, it's more then just a lift and 35" tires.
Dude, we know it's way more complicated than that. We were making a video for the average Bronco consumer who just wants their Bronco to look like a sasquatch. I thought we made that clear. If we talked about every single variable and situation on our video it would be an hour long and boring. That's not what UA-cam is for. That's what forums are for. Trust me we are in all of the forums.
The biggest draw to the Sas package is the lockers. Yea, 35s are cool and all, but front and rear lockers are where it’s at.
For me the Squatch pack just makes sense in the end you can’t build that package for what it costs from Ford. After having lockers on my Rubicon, I can never go back, just gives you confidence to go places others shouldn’t
Non-sas Badlands for me. I like the crash bars and the smaller fender flares.
Its also more narrow they're very wide in person with sasquatch
Me too. Plus you can get a manual trans and the 12" screen on only the Badlands.
Excellent video and topic coverage. I've been digging in to details to decide Badlands with or without SAS, and what it would take down the road to "mimic" the SAS setup if not ordered with it from factory. Given the cost delta (~$2500) for Badlands SAS option, I've decided that is the way to go rather than chasing all the little issues (and after-market cost) trying to do it later.
Smart choice
If i have a 2 door big bend, non Sasquatch, can I put 35’s on it without a lift, or do I need to put a lift??
Wondering the same thing and I have a 4 door big bend non sasquatch
I love the wheels and offset. The most economical setup IMO is the Black Diamond with the 2inch level/spacer lift. You would get 90% of the Sasquatch capability since it is standard with rear locker, rock sliders and skid plates, much more customizable and build it for under 50K with a manual.
Don’t do it on a Base, Big Bend or OBX unless you re-gear your rear-end. These guys didn’t even mention gearing, wow. Also, the Sasquatch is 7,385 more on the 2Dr Base (5,790 on 4dr automatic) due to having to add Advanced 4WD and automatic transmission (again not the most complete information).
Sounds like you are ready to start a UA-cam channel and start making videos. Let me know when you fore it up!
I’ve seen the Sasquatch Package & regular Bronco side-by-side (demo models) at my local dealer. I’m definitely going non-Sasquatch package, as I prefer the standard depth fenders & ability to choose my own aftermarket wheel & tire combo. You’re going to see a couple folks claiming that aftermarket parts void the factory warranty & that’s completely false & idiotic. I’ve owned lifted Jeeps & Fords for over 20 years. The warranty is not void (on whole, as some falsely claim); you’ll simply be responsible for any non-OEM part that fails. Ignore the people talking out of their ______ & buy what you prefer.
Great video BTW! 👍🏻🇺🇸
You guys look way too cool to me. But anyway that was a good review..
Badlands look a whole lot better, its just the rims on the sasquatch package im not a huge fan of.
You mentioned if you want lockers get the Sasquatch. The Badlands models comes with lockers front and rear regardless 😉
exactly
Awesome video👍.... You guys answered every questions and concerns I had... I'm going with the Sasquatch package 💪
You only remove the crash bar extensions, the actual crash bar is still there.
Those RTR wheels look good on it. I have the same ones on my 2021 F150.
Great information but you couldn’t order SAS with a manual in 21. That is the reason I went with a badlands. Got all the lockers and sway bar disconnect. 35’s most likely a future mod, but may go 37’s since that manual came with 4:7 final drive ratio.
^ This man speaks wisdom!
The swaybar disconnect and lockers are a must have for me.
@@dads2006gt -- correct! Anyone that compromised their build in order to get an earlier build date will definitely pay an arm and a leg to get a custom aftermarket equivalent setup.
Will I be able to put 35’s on my Outerbanks without lifting
I think you need a little level in the front and you may need to remove the front crash bars.
I think they both look good but I like to build them and pick out my own wheels so I'd probably di non sasquatch
Love how they sound so excited when they say “10mm lift.” I’m sure eventually you’ll lose that “10mm lift”.
Nice video!! I've got a 2door Big Ben 7 speed on order.
Please cut out the rock background music while you guys talk...It makes listening to what you guys have to say very difficult to follow.
Rather you guys should play the rock music with an intro logo with you guys saying like and subscribe or something to that effect.
I’ll be getting my first off-roading automobile and still undecided if I want a Badlands non Sasquatch. Other than tires, there are too much of height difference…. Or am I wrong here. I’ll be new to off-roading and want to do some light rock crawling.. nothing too crazy… that I know of rn lol
One of the most important components in a sasquatch package is the axles are geared. Theirs videos already of people putting 35 on their non sas bronco and complaining about power. Sasquatch is geared for the 35's non sas is not.
Great video. As you guys said, it's foolish to not add the Squatch. The fact it is perfectly engineered for the Bronco and gets the front locking diff at its price point makes it a no brainer. Plus, one can always swap out the wheels later if they want aftermarket ones.
What if I want the look of the Sasquatch but don’t off-road ?
This video has everything I need to know. Thanks. I get mine this week. :)
Nice comparison, well done. Not being a heavy duty rock crawler, I decided to put 18 inch wheels and 33 inch tires on my Black Diamond. They look better than stock, and don’t require a lift kit.
. YEEE HAWWWW......WE GOT THEM 35s BROTHER
Took a while but I think Ford nailed the bronco is continuing to do well. I’ve never owned a Ford but I’m excited to get an F150
Yes sir!
Great vid. I also like how you each wore a tshirt to match one of the broncos 😂
Ko2 for the win!! It's the man's man Cinderella shoe.
To summarize:
Non Sasquatch Badlands: Electronic disconnecting sway bar, ability to for the 7 speed manual, but 33’s and no lift.
Sasquatch Package on lower trims: 35’s, 10mm lift, but no disconnecting sway bar and no option for a manual transmission.
10mm is a hair over 3/8” and 100mm is a hair less than 4” so I think there’s some confusion about the lift you used?
Good video gentlemen, I’d have to go with the Sasquatch, personally I prefer the wide fender flares and what about the odometer calibration on the non-squatch?
Hopefully the dealer can calibrate. It may require Forscan. Thanks for watching!
35 12.50 17 maxxis with no lift don't hit off road. I have a base and a black diamond both on 35s
What color is that non sas? Is that area 51? Looks nice
Area 51
None sas looks better, sas better performance. Pick what’s matters to you in the end.
Loved the friggin back window button mix up at the intro B⚡D pulled of. In fact I don't think the King from Memphis T C B⚡couldn't have done it any cooler 😎
It’s the little things in life!
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I want front, rear lockers, skid plates, rock rails on a manual transmission Bronco, 35 inch or 31 inch tires not a big deal for me.
What offset are the RTRs
Thank you Guys for the thoughtful information, you both do great work!! We do appreciate it, have a blessed day
Thanks!
The fenders don't seem like in issue you can literally pop em off and order wider ones from ford and slap em on
Love the area 51
35s with a two inch lift 💪 smaller fenders make it look more beastly
ever hear a hillbilly say millimeter? Im calling Ford! i want my lift in Inches! lol.
want to order a base 2 dr but cant get a locking Dif unless I go to sasq package can get a big bend with locking Dif as single opt
Great video and thanks for the link for the leveling kit. Just ordered for my 22' 2 door base (manual). Wheels and KO2's next. I don't care about locking diffs I just care about looks lol.
The original steelies and tires will be my winter tires and when they wear out I'm going to put some 33" snow tires on the steelies. When winter is over, back to the 35" KO2's. I want to powder coat the steelies black too.
Doesn't the Sasquatch package come with the 4.70 gears?
Yep. There are a ton of combos on different models to end up with a lot of different ratios. The badlands in this video comes with 4.7 but isn’t Sasquatch.
If you have the badlands non-Sasquatch, will the zone lift kits work? Since the badlands has the HOSS suspension like the Sasquatch, do you get the zone Sasquatch version? It’s kinda confusing but looking to lift my non-Sasquatch badlands.
I would call TC Customs in Bessemer, AL and discuss. They know more than anyone.
A 10MM LIFT!!!??? ONE WHOLE CENTIMETER... THATS 3/8 OF ONE INCH.
Anyone that ordered a Bronco without the Sas package should be hobbled. 😝
The non Sasquatch looks better. I like the stance better.
That offset is going to create greater wear and tear on the axle and bearings. Especially if taking it off-roading.
Can I add that level to my Sasquatch & fit 37’s?
You can but you won’t have the clearance you need to actually have tire travel. At 2” at least and a 4” would probably be perfect.
Good video👍 base with a lift and nitto 37x 11.50
So does the badlands and wildtrak only come with electronic sway disconnect? I thought it was part of the badsquatch package but could just be on the specific trims.
There are a lot of ways to spec it. The best way to know exactly what is available is to go to the build and price online and see if you can add an option to a lower trim. Sometimes you can add things without a package.
Don't know if it's been asked ...don't see it yet.....when adding your own suspension do you have to have something compatible that works with the GOAT modes?
Adding a lift will definitely change the angles…
*Screw this! the real deal is on the Raptor!*
Another great one. Did y’all happen to look at the back of the back seat for me and see if they put cloth in the badlands. I’m hoping not. Will make it a bitch to wash out.
Just checked. They are same as front, wash out vinyl with drains in the floor. Thanks for watching!
Sasquatch all day. Warrantied . Front and rear lock.
LOL the ending is the best. You guys are awesome!
Thanks!
One big detail your forgetting to tell people is the axles.. the bronco runs 2 axles m210 and m220 axles. The people who are buying none squatch packages who are putting 35+ tires don’t realize they have the m210 axles which are significantly weaker. M220 come on all manual transmissions, Sasquatch and top tier models that run 33’s or bigger. Those come in 4:46 or 4:70 gear ratio. Pay attention to your axle folks
Good video but you get lockers standard on the Badlands even without the SAS package.
thanks for watching Zach! Yep, get it, we weren't really comparing these two models. We were comparing SAS versus non-SAS. Doesn't really matter which model it is just whether it has SAS or not.
Question, why put a 35” tire in the back, the camera issue, I’m confused as to how the Bronco was bought, did it come with 5 non-Sasquatch tires whatever they are below the 35’s? If you swapped the tires out you’d have them right, put the small one on the back!
Good question. If you have a flat then you spare is kind of useless. Your overall tore diameter needs to be very close to the same on all 4 wheels. If they are not they will trigger your wheel speed sensors and ABS sensors. And there is the authenticity viewpoint. If you get out wheeling and have a flat you want to be able to replace with a tore that has the same capability as the other 3 to get you out of the woods. Lastly, if you think 35’s look better on your Bronco the. Having the spare match would matter. If you sell your takeoff set, whomever buys them would want all 5.
@@BackroadDriver yeah that all makes sense I wasn’t thinking about a flat at all haha, just looks, I want to get a Bronco but not into off reading at all, just want a badass SUV. Great video. Good info as I’m on the fence about authentic Sasquatch vs. DIY look with 35’s. It seems the only concern is the spitting of rocks onto the paint, I feel like if that is a thing you’d have to worry about it even when not off roading. Obviously stones and gravel are everywhere out there on streets and roads ect.
Obviously not recommended as you said but on my 01 Mustang I had 18 inch 275 tires, stock are like 17 inch 245, the spare in trunk was like a wheel barrel tire haha it saved me more than once when blowing a tire but I would drive slow on it and it def felt weird.
I don’t think all the sensors went nuts back then.
Sasquatch all the way!
Great video. Thanks for showing the clearance on the non -squatch. Keep it up. 😎
You guys forgot the most important thing. The gear ratio in the differentials. And yes both differentials have to have the same ratio or the 4x4 wouldn't work. Very expensive to change later down the road.
This Badlands non Sas has a 4.7 gear ratio. I guess he build it with that gear set to compensate for not having that gear set from ordering Sas pack.
Already talked about this in the comments on multiple posts. You're right it's a big deal. Most people that bought a non-squatch just bought the Brinco to drive around town and the gear ratios won't ever matter to them. The only people that will be changing gear ratios have already thought about that probably and got the Sasquatch package.
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I just picked up a 2022 Ford bronco Outer Banks with stock wheels I’m considering getting fuel level six rims with you know where gravis 33s would that work
Not gonna lie, I was kind of skeptical & began skipping the first bits of the video. But I was quite surprised by the amount of tiny yet important details you guys covered. I think in the end, it's definitely worth getting the Sasquatch package than trying to do everything in the after-market... Now I'm not sure if I should go with Outer Banks with High & Sas. Bronco or Badlands with same options...
2 door Base, manual transmission, non Sasquatch, 2" Zone lift, 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT's on 17" matte black Fuel wheels. It looks so good!
Awesome video guys. I would take the poke