A Yacht TV Not Responding to WORKING Remote Control - Can I FIX it?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Hi, in this video I look at a television which is not responding to the remote control. The previous owner bought another remote control thinking the issue was with the remote, but unfortunately it isn't. Can it be fixed and work again. Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.
You should be proud of that repair, that feeling of fixing something you had no real knowledge of previously is hard to beat. Plus, you are providing a great service to other people that are trying to repair similar devices in the future. I know you sometimes give the disclaimer that people shouldn't copy you, and in the early days I would have agreed with you, but now you have become a skilled repairer across a broad range of items. There is nothing more valuable than practical experience, and because of the amount and breadth of your repairs done through your channel, your experience now shows. Keeping items out of landfill is vital and will only become more and more important in the future.
This channel has came so far!
From networking and telephones to fixing devices like game consoles and other electronics to fixing cars and other forms of transportation. I'm so happy this channel has reached to this point.
Thank you vince for all your videos that has entertained me and the other 859k people!
Nothing better than the feeling of fixing something that might well have caused someone else to throw the item away. great video, great methodical resolution.. Thanks Vince
I've acquired and repaired many items over the years from what someone else has "thrown away" 🙂
Most of them TV's you see sitting on the roadside normally work with a little fix and a new remote... even if there wet when there picked up! ...
As long as there screen's not smashed 😅
Infrared TX & RX are basic components, its the data that is sent by the remote that the TV responds to, if a random remote is used, chances are the TV will ignore that TX signal. Glad you nailed it in the end! I strip old Sky boxes to harvest these basic components.
Good source of hard drives too 🙂👍
@@BuyitFixit 🤫 Shhhhh! 😂
The newer Chinese component testers have remote reader where you point the remote at the sensor and it tells you the manufacturer code and code of the button being pressed. Handy when checking if a remote is working, as I have seen examples where the LED lights but it's not transmitting anything sensible.
Vince, you always persevere. Enjoy watching and learning.
You got me yelling "scope" again at the screen! Well done! With more practice, you will reach for the scope first - it really is your eyes with electronics. Great fix!
"You got me yelling "scope" again at the screen! " - me and you both 😂😂😂
So glad there's somebody on UA-cam that fixes random things instead of just boring phones, tablets and consoles haha. Breath of fresh air 😂
Great Job Vince, I was going to comment about using your scope to monitor the IR data from the receiver, but you figured out how to do it near the end on the video 🙂 Well done 👍
There are a few different IR protocols (NEC, Sony, Philips etc), but I think there's only two different wavelengths commonly used. Most are 940nm if I remember. You'll see data either way, just the way it is encoded is different.
Thanks Mick, I loved seeing those data signals (sad I know). Looking forward to watching your arcade cabinet video later. You must have an understanding better half to be allowed to store that in the home 😂
@@Mymatevince Good job we've got a fair amount of space. It's only a half size one, and a pretty long video, but it turns out pretty awesome when I've finished with it 🙂
@@BuyitFixit Excellent👍
IR LED light can be seen on some phones only through the front facing camera, some phones have IR-cut filter on the back camera :)
Tried it on a iphone8, back camera has an iR filter but the front camera doesn’t
Brilliant Vince! The protocol used by infra-red remotes is nearly always different between devices and manufacturers. Some manufacturers stick with a "standard", where certain models work across a number of their devices.
The led sending and the sensor receiving are almost always going to be the same, or at least compatible. It's the data that differs. The ic in the remote and the ic in the TV are the parts that are not interchangeable.
Thank you Chris 👍
Yes and the universal remote controls actually existing and working is the proof. You usually get a huge list of manufacturer codes with it. I just wonder if there is some international registry or standard that mitigates the overlap among the manufacturers rc codes.
I learned that you can use a radio on AM to test a remote control.. just need to find a frequency that you can hear signal and test it + all buttons too ^_^ , if no sound you might have a dead crystal or else.
@9:00 sticking some dielectric grease on it will help stop it corroding again, get yourself some as you need it for the rolls too.
It's on order from Amazon Scott, after watching your relay/solenoid video 👌
You can pry each individual female pin out of the connector for closer inspection and cleaning with a tiny flat head or a blade tip on the square edge near each pin.
OMG I never noticed you have 3 hands!!😯😯😯😯
20:33 I stopped everything I was doing at this moment, to see if it would work. That was absolute magic! loved it.
Have lots of clients with beachfront properties and boats. I suggest always using dielectric grease for all connections (cctv, audio, pool tvs, etc...). Best of wishes from NYC.
This is one of thre coolest fixes I have seen by now. To see it work with the scope.. amazing!
15:08 tv lit up😂
I noticed this as well, the IR RX must have been working at the time.
I was half expecting a cut to Mission Impossible "RED LIGHT!!...GREEN LIGHT!!".🤣
hi that's a small tv for that boat i saw the video with the boat
i know you are saving alot of gear going in to holes or e bins keep it up
Great video, great fix. Just a note alot of TVs are manufactured by a Turkish company called Vestel who use the name Toshiba, Hitachi, JVC, Bush and many others. You can tell if the TVs a Vestel by looking at the back barcode and above it will be a long number and 4 of them numbers will be highlighted in a box 👍 keep up the good work
This one isn't a Vestel though, Cello TVs are made in County Durham (the only ones left made in UK).
@@jasejjYeah, but it appears to be a generic Chinese LED TV, judging by the design and the UI….😉
And also, you can also tell that by the TV remote, the connection layout on the back and the software’s UI
I'm happy to see you using your scope !! There have been so many times in your other videos where you could have gotten the scope out and it would have helped you fault find !!
I commented in a previous video recently, saying you need to get a cheap scope to help trace audio etc. Good job !!
5:20 Besides rust, that's also one way to fix battery damage on a board. You can start with an initial cleaning with IPA. You smear liquid flux on a damaged area and heat it up with hot air station or just a heat gun. When hot enough, the flux will suck out the impurities from the affected area and, as a result, turn darker. Remove the flux with IPA and repeat the procedure, if needed.
Would love to see you try on your next battery damage repair ;).
the flux turns darker regardless of impurities, it is the flux itself starting to burn a little. this is a lot more obvious and happens sooner with lower quality or unrefined rosin flux.
still, the acidic property of the flux might help with cleaning the oxidation
@@rolls_8798 Where there is the alkaline damage, the flux will turn dark much faster. You don't want to super heat it.
Of course you want to use some decent quality flux for repairs instead of some cheapo stuff.
That’s amazing Vince I wish I knew electronics like you, I’ve fixed loads over the years & have done tons of soldering in a recording studio & studied a bit so understand basic components, but mostly it’s trial & error, recently fixed my boiler motherboard by replacing the capacitors with higher temperature versions 1 by 1 until it worked, as a hair dryer would make it work again for a short while but I had no way of working out which cap it was. It felt amazing when I found it..I think this fix would’ve been beyond me, weirdly I have a bedroom TV with exactly the same problem I doubt it’ll be water damage though :) but now feel like I’ve picked up a few tips to see if I can trace the problem after watching this, so thanks again for the amazing video..
What a RESULT Vince! Job well done!
Thank you Marcel 😎
I had to have a couple of cups of tea for this break but well worth it thanks I love your excitement when you have a fix
once again a fantastic video. You have certainly become one of favorite youtubers as you never cease to educate and teach new things. Had no idea one could use the phone camera to test whether a remote led is working.
Viewing the IR on a phone only works with some phones, it doesn't work on my iPhone unfortunately, it is a very nice trick to check a remote quickly, I have to use a Android tablet or my security cameras to check IR emitters on light curtains, although I also have an optical tester which tells me a power output too, I use that for final testing on IR light curtains to check output power.
Try the selfie-camera instead, sometimes the main camera has an IR filter.
@@Microwave_Dave good point, I didn't try that.
A happy man fixing that 👍
I never knew about the remote and phone camera hack....thanks Vince 👍👍👍
Great stream Vince would suggest a backpack to move your tools back and forth to your beautiful Rolls 👍
Nice fix, Vince and I'm happy to see use of the oscilloscope here.
Nice work, Vince!
Hi Vince., I've been watching you for a while and still working through nearly 5 years of your videos and noticed you testing components with multi meter probes in croc clips..would set of smd chip set probes be better can do caps and resistors will free up a hand.
Keep up the good work..
@11:15 the readings are all over the place because you are touching the probe tips at the same time, don't touch the probes 🙂
Different manufacturers do use different coding between their products. Some manufacturers also allow a different code to be set on the unit and the remote so they don't clash - e.g. You can turn your Panasonic TV off without turning the Panasonic DVD player off with the same remote.
Universal remotes have a programming sequence where they step through each code set until one tuns the unit on/off or a long list of codes you select in the remote setup.
This just in - Vince has three hands!
Well done. Nice enthusiasm as well :D
good fix. you were onto the problem quite quick
Thanks Emma👍
Nice repair I have been finding more issues with those tiny electrolytic capacitors leaking and causing issues like this .
My truck uses the same connectors inside the mirrors to connect up my turn signal Indicator, and the mirror heater. I noticed my heater was taking forever to thaw the driver side vs the passenger side. I decided to replace the lights and upgrade a little and I found a ton of rust in the heated mirror connection, so sandpaper, some citric acid to clean the female connector, then rinsed with distilled water and dried with comprssed air. I dopped the connection with noalox paste when I reassembled.
Nice fix in all my years so doing tvs I have never had a faulty IR sensor maybe it shorted internally with the water ingress
new one on me too. I'd have probably not bothered with that tv, Chinese kit rubbish..
Nice! Thanks for posting, I learned a little bit from this.
You should try ACF 50 on corrosion like that. I repair drain cameras so we see a lot of connections like those. Just fill the male part and let it soak. The female end you can put in a little pot and soak it.
Wow that was a good video. Fantastic repairs man.
Vince, where do you get all your gadgets (little osc scope and other things). I didn't even know the stuff existed. Great videos. I like your thought process.
Your backlight actually came om at 15:00 too but it could be the reciever was so damaged its unable to resolve all the codes being transmitted to it.
Sending positive vibes to everyone reading this! May your day be filled with joy and success
Great fix, Vince!
Great fix (not your average carbon pill issue). Yacht, Roller, this YT malarky must be so lucrative. Next, you'll have a pool and turkey farm (after you paint your ceiling), ho, ho. For new gloves, mask etc, see the latex / PVC-wear ad which pops up.
Impressive, very educational
"Hahaha you're so funny Vince, Muppet" that had me laughing 😂😂😂😂
Interesting fault and nice fix. I guess older computer mouse directional wheels have similar IR-sender-receiver setup as well, like Amiga mouse.
My 2001 PC mouse wheel has been broken for years though, the clickable button works, but rolling pages up and down doesn't.
Well done stuck in there for a good fix
Red Light, Green Light. Getting echoes of Squid Games there :) Great fix !
The IR receivers are transistors that use light to turn on and off. Many TV's use different "codes" for different buttons but often a single manufacture will use the same codes for many models but they occasionally change it over time. There are websites with the info for each make and model.
Nice video as always! Is that Rodico you were using to clean that little board for the IR sensor? Common tool in watchmaking, great for holding little things like that!
Well done Vince, you earned your tea break 😀👍
Vince playing Squid Games, Redlight Greenlight
Great, I've recently seen a TV with this exact problem, now I can try to fix it, thanks!👍
Great video. Nicely done.
If you've ever tried to program a universal remote you would know that every manufacturer has their own data set ( and many times they have multiple sets for each type of device) for IR controls.
you have a DVM that goes over 10M. The codes are often 3 - 4 bytes , repeats and inverted bytes on a 28KHz? carrier, , Sony has alot of protocol code sets. Theres an arduino library to capture and repeat. If the remote and reciever are on the same protocol but not on the same carrier they might work close up but not at a distance. Theres great really cheap usb scopes out there. But how many fixes would require its use. Well done .
As far as I know, most brands of tvs, audio/hifi, etc. set their IR receiver to a specific range of bandwidth to pick up. That's why you have to set an universal remote control to a specific channel when you want to pair it with your tv. And that's also how they all make sure the remote of the tv isn't interfering with your radio. The receiver you used to replace the faulty one is from a IR-repeater, those are made to pick up any signal and transport to a location where you put the other end of the device and send the given IR signal from there (I've one in use too to get the signal for the hifi amplifier to the amplifier from a seat where I can't reach the IR sensor of the amplifier itself). Those transmitters are on a very wide band because they need to be able to pick up any remote signal you want.
Might be very well possible to use whatever remote control you have to control the tv (maybe not all functions will work as well as with the original RC but I guess they still will).
Satisfying fix.
Brilliant work. I was excited when it worked too.
Haha when the person is happy that red light changes to green you just know its dedication.
Suggest you obtain a nut file for guitar maintenance to clean female connector pins. Might be small enough.
You are amazing!!! I love your Videos!!! Keep It up!!!
"This is the female end and how do I get in there. . " Well come on man. :) You know those pins are just pressed in. If you pull up that plastic tab each pin slides out. Just don't forget the order. :)
Encantado de conocer algo que desconocía su funcionamiento por completo,enhorabuena.
Nice fix Vince! Job done 👍🙂
@My Mate VINCE try using bi carb soda with super glue, it sets like concrete
Are all the power buttons beaming the same signals?
As you surmise they are all different, probably to not interfere with other devices.. however there is sometimes a twist.. There is no standard list of different signals, probably, and so in my case, my TVs Power signal, is the same as my sound bars Volume Up (or down) buttons signal.. so every time i try to change volume of the sound bar, the TV turns off :D
Such a cool video and so much cool info in this one (and yay red mat)
nice fix. I would have coated the IR PCB to prevent new liquid damage.
I liked this one, ran out of tea half way tho.
Great video. Love the thorough troubleshooting. Unfortunately the time spent fixing something like this is not worth it nowadays.
Nice one mate well done another fun video
Easy to follow and informative
is this a tea break fix vince mate if not it could be :P😝🤪
Congratulations !
7:10 that connector would have been very easy to de-pin. Lift the little tabs and pull the wires out.
20:25 yes, most brands work across their own brand but generally they're all different so as to not cause interference. All IR receivers receive *all* signals, but ignore/discard signals they weren't programmed to receive/process. You run into these problems with universal remotes (Logitech Harmony, for example) whereby you have to program delays in IR transmission so as to not overwhelm one device with erroneous signals.
The 3 hand repair. I was wondering how you'd test resistance and press a button at the same time
Nice green mat.
I think the oldest protocol for IR remotes is NEC-5.
Still used today tho:)
Nice dog on TV
IR protocols are as diverse as there are products that use them. basically they act like a serial protocol, and then the chip on the controlled device has a set of known commands that it understands.
Some products will use single byte commands, others use multi-byte commands etc.
Great video really enjoyed it. Nice fix.
Those remotes don't only send info on which button is pressed, but also the device-type. So, other devices don't react. The signal is usually modulated with a 40KHz block wave and the PLL in the receiver detects that (low=40KHz detected) so there is no inference from the sun and such.
Well done, great job.
Great video.
good fix
Great Work! A good effort
every TV Manufacture has a different Code for different Devices, that's why Universal Remotes can be programmed to work with any Device.
That's also a way for me to find out if a TV has Vestel junk inside, if it turns on with a Vestel Remote I know it has Junk inside inside and what's most likely the the defect on a TV.
well done. now remove the screen and clean the diffuser sheets lol.
I did that once (a few years back) on a Vestel TV to inspect the LED array as the backlight would go off after about 10 seconds. What I nightmare. Turned out it was a capacitor on the LED driver part of the PSU board.... It's still working 🙂
Official request for pink nail polish.
Hi Vince
I've got a fitbit versa which has a genuine fault on it and was wondering if you were interested in having a go at fixing it. Do you have a PO box?
Cheers
Nice one