Space Engineers: Interior turrets - ineffective?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Hello everyone! Today we are answering an important question... are interior turrets good for... exteriors?? Join me in todays video where we test them against gatling turrets for both small and large grid crafts! Like and subscribe to support channel.
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to be fair they are called "Interior Turrets" and they use infantry ammo, this nerf was likely a long time coming.
yeah, I think its nice to have something that can kill players, but not damage the inside of your ship walls too much!
@@LunarKolony They can kill players? What, like, the stupid ones?
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These things are almost zero threat. Especially if you can get them to just keep shooting and missing, because of their limited ammo.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 I know it's been a year since you commented and you'll never see this reply but it is hard to dodge an interior turret when inside a ship during combat
@@pastorpatrick6893especially if you design your ships to only really have 1 block wide passage ways (which can be decently long and without cover)
so, your enemies either use in your ships rocket launchers, go another way, or create a different way
I feel that interior turrets still have a place, but it's much more internally to take out hydromen or early game to hammer wolves and spiders
So pretty much they've been relegated to being used for internal security systems, which is their intended role from the start... though I imagine they're still effective against missiles.
The server I play on I only use the interior turrets to handle spiders. TBH small grid gatlings on large grids do a better job for actual defence against people and missiles.
How about missiles?
@@the11382 - Sorry took me a second there to realise you weren't advocating missiles as an interior defence system!!!! I think that the 200m radius difference between Gatlings and Int Turrets makes a difference, I'm not saying they're useless but personally that extra 200m of shooting at missiles appeals to my paranoia.
@@andrewwalton6236 I mean interior missile turrets are fine, but the ultimate tool for home defense is the interior railgun turret.
A nice video. for me interior turrets are point defense guns against small things like ammo, & hydromen. not for anti grid stuff.
it does make sense since it is just hand gun ammo.
Very interesting I've still being using the interior turrets as AA guns but I might have to just use my custom Ball turret AA guns instead :D great video!
How well might the interior turrets deal with shooting down missiles compared to the gatlings? Might they have a role (other than interior defense) as point defense?
Can Keen just bite the bullet (heh) and give interior turrets a cargo port at the bottom? The main issue with them is they really aren't viable for much outside of very early game, and PMT (player made turrets) have the potency of the Gatling, size profile of the Interior Turret, and can be fully conveyored if constructed correctly. And a single player-made Gatling PMT can two-tap an engineer before they even have a chance to react.
Player made turrets have a giant drawback when it comes to repair. Because they're a subgrid, if a custom turret gets destroyed, you have to rebuild it manually (or come up with ridiculous printers that attach it into place). This is especially awful when it's a compact turret that uses the tiny hinge part exploit, because you can't even spawn that hinge part on anything that isn't a tiny hinge, which means you have to build the turret body somewhere else and then attach it to the mount in order to repair.
Besides, custom turrets are still at least twice as large as interior turrets, because you need a rotor (1 large block) and a hinge (another block if large grid, 3x3x3 if small grid). I'm also personally somewhat reluctant to put weapons that disable a thruster in 3 seconds on the inside of my ship.
There is also a big difference in PCU cost (if you are limited on a server), where an interior turret is just 125 I think while the custom turret requires the controller (100), two rotors/hinges (100+100), and at least one static gun (80, 425, 825). Minimally that is 380 PCU, worth just over 3 interior turrets.
well if the gat turret takes up 27 blocks worth of space. How much damage does 27 interior turrets do? Just 9 interior turrets in the same foot print as gat do?
It was a dumb moment, he probably meant 27 small grid blocks of space. Which is odd considering only the large gun can be put on small grids while the interior turret can't.
An accurate comparison is that the large gun is 2 large grid blocks tall while the interior turret is only 1. Additionally, the large turret needs a 1 block radius empty to be placed while the interior turrets doesn't require anything but it's 1 block
As long as they're useful against missiles I keep some on my ship as point defense but I'll never use them as my main firepower.
I wonder if they are at least useful against missiles or not, otherwise there is little reason to use more than a few to prevent boarders. Only reason I ever saw to use them is for super small large grid ships or for proper vessels to keep engineers from landing on them and grinding things.
I think they are
Loved the video, here are some ideas:
artillery vs assault cannons? / turrets? (tracking and dmg) and or artillery vs railguns dps and stuff
Okay but what about 9 interior turrets, since that fits in the same footprint as a gatling? Or a cost breakdown? I feel like this analysis is barely scratching the surface. And then compare them to an autocannon.
From what I can tell, interior turrets deployed on the outside of ships are meant to provide a one-time, temporary firepower buff, until they get destroyed or run out of ammo.
This was a test, not an analysis
Muh Statistics
I've always only put these on the outside to shoot down boarders and attempt to take out missiles. This balance sounds good to me.
Fun fact:
Railgun, artillery, and assault cannon shell is missile type.
In theory, you can intercept them with point defence.
I'm honestly confused as to why the devs figured it'd be a good idea to smoke up the entire view of the interior turret's cam.
*Flash backs of flying a fighter through a entire reaver fleet
Interior turrets on the outside are not used to shoot other grids as they are used for point defense against missiles. So your testing is moot.
you can set them to target large and small grids
@@LunarKolony to What avail? Didn’t your own testing Shore that? You think the other ship will just stay there and take it?
After testing, 27 interior turret still has terrible probability against rocket launcher.
Your best bet is to dodge
One thing i just noticed after watching like 30 of your videos it sounds like in your intro one of the people says "and i kiss the teacher" XD
Yep, that's literally the name of the song lol
@@LunarKolony XD
Also thanks for the video.
They're weak, they don't pipe, and they're easy to take out.
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Better to use a piped custom turret with a full gat, now. Just make sure wherever they're pointed has a heavy armor block backing it.
where can I find the interior turret being properly setup for wolf defense? And/or actual anti personnel defense. To protect against "Marines" assaulting the exterior and interior of my ship or base?
I feel that it's simply a matter of quantity vers quality bc a single interior doors the around half the damage
Very nice and useful guide 👍
The relatively small clip of interior turrets doesn't help. 50 rounds and it has to reload - meaning that there is a small window for them to get taken out. And since they don't do much damage, their TTK is terrible.
They don't, he showed that interior turrets don't have a reload delay at all multiple times.
@@Firesgone Because he's in creative.
das interior war schon immer ein anti personen geschütz. und kein anti fighter. gut das sie es entlich geändert haben. und das tastatur geklicke stört leider sehr
wish you tested them vs missiles and rockets
I thought it was a video about internal turrets?
I said right at the start it was about using them on the exterior
Pog
Why is everyone that makes SE videos British
they arent?
It’s not bad I just noticed it. Thought it was funny. Wish more people played! Your videos get more people to play. Cheers
British… Australian.. same thing 😁
Interior turrets are only useful in cases where PCU limits or lack of Cobalt are a concern and you NEED a gun to kill player characters/wolves/spiders/modded NPC creature type enemies. They are fairly useless against ships now. The problem is however twofold as well, any basic small compact custom turret controller block design with a single gatling gun will perform much better than an Interior turret. More benefits being, conveying for ammo feed, accuracy of the custom turrets vs Interior, and overall damage of even a small grid fixed gatling gun vs the Interior turret. They are simply outclassed in every way by the other weapons unless you very specifically have no choice but to use an interior turret in a small confined space with PCU or resource limitation concerns.
Love your vids bud, so keep up the great work! And greetings from across the pond! 😇🫡🫡🫡🫡