2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc Review - Better than Trek Emonda and Specialized Tarmac?
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Is this the best value performance road bike you can buy right now? I've been riding it all year to find out. Buy it at www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/tcr...
Contents of this review
00:00 Intro
00:49 It’s fast!
2:06 Aerodynamics
3:37 Frame weight
4:39 Climbing performance
5:52 Geometry
6:37 Is it comfortable?
7:04 Tyre clearance
7:55 350km ride comfort
9:24 Shimano Ultegra groupset
9:47 Giant power meter
10:00 Equipment highlights
10:25 Any gripes?
11:35 Cable routing pros and cons
12:47 SLR1 wheelset
14:09 Tyre testing - 25 to 32mm
16:07 Price and value for money
16:59 Compared to Trek Emonda and Specialized Tarmac
20:25 Summary and conclusion
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I had a TCR 1 back in 2006 and I was cycling average 500k/week until 2009. I never had a single issue with the bike and I remember the comfortable ride and the responsiveness it had. For various reasons life took me in different paths and I hadn’t cycle ever since. Yesterday I bought this exact bike after test driving several other bikes the last few weeks. I couldn’t be happier! I am so pumped to be back into the wonderful cycling community!
Thank you for your reviews and safe miles to everyone!
I did the same bro, just back now and searching for a bike. thinking the tcr is the choice
Thanks David 🙏. I feel confident in picking up a TCR as my 1st road bike based on your reviews & comparisons. Appreciate the honesty and comprehensive overviews (over your series of tcr videos). You addressed all my questions about the bike including: comfort, bottom bracket creeks, ideal tire width, even free-hub noise. It might not be the perfect bike but seems to be the best value and best features-to-downsides ratio for me. Thanks again! (Also, your videography is excellent! Keep up the great work!!)
Great review! Especially appreciate your reasoning for and against internal cable routing. Hope you’re able to get your hands on the Tarmac and Emonda soon!
bought a TCR advanced pro 2 after watching the other two videos. Great bike. Thanks for your videos!!!
Happy to help 😎
I absolutely love my 2020 Pro Disc 2. My first road bike and it’s bloody great. Was lucky enough to get one before all the madness of COVID.
Thx for a great review. Just got mine based on your positive unbiased review and I can’t be happier. Great value for money.
I just got this tcr pro 1 XS disc 2021 last week . Its a fantastic machine. Well balanced. I don't mind with outer cables. The power meter work perfectly. Fall in love with the bike
Super technical review!! Always like the details in this review for comparisons on other bikes in same class! Cheeeers!!
You present your information very well in an honest way , without all the waffle you see in a lot of other bike reviews. Kudos to you for that David. Weirdly I was looking at the frameset you appear to have bought and had built up in your other video , wondering I I would be able to build up my first bike myself , as that frame colourway is awesome !! . I was looking for some videos on tcr builds when I came across yours and the link to this long term review . Keep the reviews coming
Thanks for the well rounded review, even going so far as to “spec”ulate the bang for buck pros/cons against its peers. Having never looked at Giant before, not closely anyway, I was researching the next level up, with electronic shifting. Tarmac was the starting point, and it ranked favorably against all others...until I looked at Giant. I am choosing the mechanical version, first based on spec/price point, but also because of this review. I looked at other reviews on the same bike, and they supported your position. So, thank you, you just saved me some $$$😊👏🏼
I bought a TCR ADV PRO TEAM (CCC) and put a Di2 ... and I love her any single moment of riding! Amazing bike 360°
Same here best decision and bike I have ever had
Hi faonesti,
Besides the paint job and the stem angle of 10 degree (vs 8 degree), are there other differences between the Pro Team CCC version and the Pro 1? Thanks
@@cosminciuraru it has an SL handlebar instead an SLR (carbon).
Im thinking of choosing a tcr pro or s works tarmac 2021 sl7 pro any tips?
THIS is the video I have been waiting for for months. The final verdict on the new TCR Pro. Thank you!
Also glad to see the final review. Was lucky enough to buy one, and it is a step change from my old Defy.
@@1nickybe Planning to get mine early next year. Stock for my size has been extremely low where I live. How is the comfort compared to the Defy?
@@Dee-Ell my Defy is a 2016 Advanced model, so not the latest of Giant's 'endurance' tech. But I'd say comfort is in the same ball park, with a bit more road feel, which on a bike as reactive and as fast as it is, is something you want. I've only had it for 2 months and have cycled a few long'ish runs on it, the longest being over 80 miles, and would happily cycle more.
@@1nickybe Thanks for your thoughts on comfort. I was debating the Defy vs TCR and your response has pushed me towards choosing the TCR.
Another reactionry person lies.
Fool.
Superb review, detail to honest facts & comparison. Good job! David.
Excellent value and thank you for the tyre testing and recommendations.
Purchased one in April , subsequent 10000k and 100k vertical , with no issues ,really nice bike to ride and so comfy, power meters so good to use . Only down side poor cable routing
This was a thoroughly unbiased awesome review
I bought this model in Barcelona, your previous comments encourage me to take this decission...it is a great bike with a good price. Thanks four your review!!
Thanks David great review, I always thought the Giant TCR was a great bike at the right price. My layman's review has been validated. As far as TREK not sending you a bike, well they are missing out, maybe afraid of your honest reviews! Thanks again 🙏🏻
Amazing review. I hope your channels grows so you can get your hands on more bikes for such reviews&comparisons.
very good detail review love this channel...Now I 'm very convinced with my own personal choice of RB....can't wait to get my new bike Giant TCR Adv Pro 1
Just bought the Giant tcr advanced pro 2 for my first road bike so really looking forward to it! Couldn’t quite put the money out or find the right size of the pro 1. Thanks for the reviews buddy.
Great review. Shame on trek for not sending an Emonda, the review was as good as it gets. Keep it up mate
I just got my tcr advanced pro 1 bike today. Pretty excited about it!
Awesome review, you’re videos was one of the main reason why I bought this exact bike. Thanks!
Me too! Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Excellent review! Keep them coming!
Thank you David! Your review heps me come to a decision of going with Giant TCR. 🚴♂️
Great review, still looking forward to the comparison with the Trek Emonda 2021 :-)
I am warming up to the external cables as I do more and more of my own bike maintenance
If you check out CyclingTips, they've reviewed the Emonda, Ultimate, and TCR (so far in their group test). Must admit the TCR did not fare well in their testing, with, longer reach, limited tyre choice, flex in the frame, sluggishness. and a speed wobble being encountered by both testers. However, and I think it is a big however particularly for this bike, they changed the wheel set to accommodate their test GP5000 tyres. And one of the reasons I bought this bike, was the wheels are an integral part of the package, and given their performance I will never have to shell out money to upgrade.
Having just taken delivery of the same bike, and being out for my first ride on it today, I can only agree with your review. The bike is really smooth, the power transfer is very good indeed, and it feels fast (although to be fair, it’s the first bike I’ve had in years with deep section carbon wheels, and disc brakes for that matter). Whilst all my other bikes have Campag, I have to say that I’m very impressed with Ultegra. As other people have commented, the colour is a little muted, and I do prefer the paint schemes on some of the Emondas, but I didn’t see the point in getting a Trek which was significantly heavier, and arguably less well specced for the price.
Keep up the good work on the channel, and thanks for helping me make my decision re this bike.
Right on ! Arthur you are very credible and honest !
Getting a good bike fit before you buy is key. I like giant, I have the defy, brilliant comfort on poor road surfaces. TCR offers great value for money compared to the competition i think. Good video Dave.
How does much difference is there between this and a Defy? Have you ridden one. Would love to know.
Looks almost identical to my Cervelo R3 with my upgraded carbon wheels ( no power meter) same kind of money but now have winter wheels also. Would love to see comparison. Great review 👍🏿
thx David your reviews of the new TCR have really helped me - I was considering this and the Canyon Aeroad cf SL 8 that you also reviewed - both reasonably available as we start coming out of the supply chain crisis. I have gone with/ordered the 2022 TCR adv pro 0 di2 which seems like best value/new tech. Aeroad very good looking and fast but I think the TCR is a better all rounder and can cope with light gravel. Good to get the latest Ultegra electronic 12 speed and standard tubeless setup. For those looking Giant USa website seems to get new stock in periodically - just keep looking. Canyon USa seem to be getting stock now as well.
Can't wait to see one of these in person. Love the TCR and Giant - keeping their competitors honest.
I was so pleased when i saw one having ordered without seeing it. Looked stunning IMO. I have bought things blind I've not overly liked lol.
I'm still waiting
@@evangossell1980 try de ver cycles in London . They stocked my small frame when everywhere was out. Delivered perfectly.
7.58kg no pedals that's heavy mate add your pedals and cages mines that weight all up with computer..
@@gerard45gh I’ve got a small frame rim brake version and weighed with pedals, 2x cages and mount comes in at 7.285kg.
Many thanks! Excellent review.
Great Video Awesome explanation cheers 👌
Hello from Ohio Dave. Another fantastic review Sir.
Thank you for this video! Brilliant!
I have this exact model as shown in the video... the power meter was deal breaker. I love my tcr!
Last january I bought 2020 version TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc : impressive bike!
Thanks for great review, I'm tempted to buy another giant, but had such a horrible experience in 2018 with a propel and tcr,
Many issues and problems with both bikes sadly.
Had to finally phone Taiwan to get a response and money refunded.
I am also thinking the 2021 Emonda. Hope you can get an emonda to try as comparison.
Again thank for great review and glad you enjoyed the tcr for a while.
Got my 2021 TCR last month and I´m in love with it
My TCR is expected to be delivered in 2 weeks! Can't wait!
So was mine. Called them to check and it’s now January 5th.... wanted to sell my Tarmac ahead of Christmas.
WHoohoooo !
How is the TCR?
@@Mububban23 Just brilliant. Fast, comfortable and beautiful. 2000km in and loving it!
Love your work.
Great video! Gorgeous bike. Look forward to the video re: price increase.
Cuánto cuestaá
Cant wait for your Tarmac SL7 review
Coming soon!
Very good review. Your video was the decisive factor to buy the '22 TCR. I also love and hate the external cable routing.
Thanks Stahldurst great to hear the video helped you choose your new bike :)
This is classified as regular internal routing as some of its shift and brake lines still enter the frameset at some point.
External routing only applies to 20th-century road bikes (and some 21st-century road bikes, more commonly on those made out of a metal) where you can see the entire shift and brake lines outside the frameset.
Consider yourself fortunate to have a bike with a headset that's convenient to work on, servicing it can be done in less than an hour and an LBS wouldn't charge you as much since it's easier for them.
Great review as usual Dave.
How do you get on with the Pirelli's?
Giant have a recommendation list of tyres to be used on these rims and the Pirelli and the others you mentioned are not on that list?
Think it mainly consists of Giant tyres (!) but they have included Schwalbe Pro 1 and few select Maxxis models.
Wonderful bike, very good review!
You rock. I got the bike after watching.
Thanks for the review David. Please could you expand your thoughts on the hookless rims and available Giant-approved tyres?
Love my TCR . Feels like a racing couch. I am 5 11 myself but went with the M . Might be a bit of a stretch but fits me well
Hi David, what do you think of Scott Addict rc30? I’d like to see your review. Thank you for what you do and how you do it
Had mine since May 2020 as well. Couldn't agree more. The freehub sounds like an angry hornets nest. Building at the shop we noticed it was so packed with OEM grease it was super stiff. The design of the internals in the hubs is incredible at this price. The power meter has been excellent. Let's hope it's a sign of things to come . Power meteres sub £3k? Enter Covid 19. I do wonder if those after this bike will actually just wait for a 2022 release
Back in August was hinting for a new bike. Loved the price and spec of the 2020 TCR Advanced Pro 0 but hated the blue. Fortunately the shop had a Team CCC frame from 2019 in my size and did an entire swap for no charge. Unbelievable value with Giant and this is coming from a Cannondale SuperSix which was a good value as well. Great review, man.
I was waiting for this episode for a long time.....
Thanks for this review, many good points here. Giants are generally excellent bikes with good riding characteristics, reasonable prices, and great manufacturing quality. One quick thing: mechanics I've talked to think the BB86 bottom bracket standard is the least problematic of the various press fit standards. BB30, PF30 and BB90 setups seem more prone to problems.
GIANT TCR #1 🚲 Thank you . Super film . CHICAGO 🇵🇱🚲🇵🇱
What is your view on the TCR 1+? It doesn't seem to have been effected by the recent price hikes and may now be the best value for money model in the mid range price bracket?
What's the tire pressure that you ran on those Pirellis? Found this on their website though.
P ZERO™ Race TLR SL 24-622 and P ZERO™ Race TLR SL 26-622 are NOT compatible with hookless rims.
Excellent review. You carnt really go wrong with a tcr or propel for that matter, they produce a lovely bike for the money , yes some models are alittle bland in some peoples eyes, but its all bang for buck.
Got one of these.... I absolutely love it. I feel it’s the best bike pound for pound value wise and performance wise on the market right now. Wouldn’t swap it even for a S-works. When I’m not on it.... I can’t wait to get back on it .
Do you think the tcr would make a good endurance bike with a shorter stem?
@@Lander76 Absolutely!
Have you ever thought of doing reviews with 3 different bikes similar price and do comparability would be great to watch especially as I’m after a new bike next season and I’m struggling to make my mind up 😂
Dave, another great review, thank you. I bought a Pro 1 disc earlier in the year partly based on your positive endorsement. What tyres are you using on the test bike? Giant only recommends an extremely limited range (& mostly their own brand....). Great channel, keep up the good work!
Question answered in the video if I’d watched all of it! 🙃
great review thx
Did you messure bike weight after tyre upgrade? I bought tcr adv pro team disc which is same bike like pro 1 on your test and I find that weight of factory tyres (Course 1) is nearly 400g
i just bought this bike, should get it in about 1 month. Cant wait
Awesome
@@davidarthur been riding it for a month now, absolutely love it! only thing I felt the need to switch was the handlebar. 42 is just way to much for me coming from 38. The cable routing doesnt even bother me tbh, in a couple years I will however custom paint it as the paint job is pretty boring. Other than that Its the perfect package for me.
Hi David, can you please make a video about road tubeless on hookless rims? It looks like you have gathered some experience. I (and I assume many others) are thinking about whether their next road wheelset should feature a hookless rim.
Great review David. I have Hunt 50 s on my Giant TCR and the hub noise is a continual amusement to fellow club riders. !
Thanks for the review David. With the finish of this bike being a fade into matte black can you recommend a framer protector/finisher that will maintain the Matt finish. Thank you
Hi David, have the exact same bike. Have you had any issues with the power meter? After every 50km I need to recharge it or the readings will be off quite a lot. (L/R balance shows as 80/20)
Hi David, thanks for the review. I bought the Advanced pro 1 recently, and it's a great bike. I have a question for you. On the Giant's website, in the "Hookless tire test protocol" document it says not to use the "PIRELLI P ZERO RACE TLR". But I can see you are riding this trie without any issue. Does it mean that the "Hookless tire test protocol" document is not updated?
What is your inseam David?
Good review BTW 👍
Thanks for the video. You mentioned you are 5’11 what is your inseam. I have a previous years m/l and it was to big for me. I’m 5’11 with only a 32 inseam so the seat post was cut down a lot. My saddle to bb was 72cm
Great review Arthur, what are those winter booties you're wearing?
Have been riding mine for about 2000 kms on the whole very positive but two key issues 1. Power meter failed after 2 months ( then took 5 visits to the bike shop) before Giant admitted it was faulty. Suspect some quality control issues but great when it works 2. The hookless rims great until you get a flat then they are near impossible to get an inner tube into without a pinch flat.
hookless rim tech is shit.
recently discovered your channel and loving the content. great review and apologies if you've covered it elsewhere but do you have a link to the bike stand? cheers!
Can you post your inseam lenght and arm length which fit for you the size ML on the Giant TCR, please?
Thanks David, your review and many others made me opt for this (yes, I managed to get one!) The fact it's quick does not surprise anybody, however I'm amazed with how comfy it is. I did a 110k ride that would have beaten me up quite a bit on my old Ridley, and on the TCR I didn't even feel it. Strange Giant does not mention this in their marketing. Maybe so that people still buy Defys?
The other huge surprise is the mechanic Ultegra, it's crazy good. FYI, size S without bottle cages and pedals weighs 7,3 kg.
Hi David. I own this bike and love it too. Would appreciate it if you could share your knowledge on those 3 tyres you mentioned in this video in terms of compatibility to the hookless rims. And what would you recommend i have in the saddle bag if i went touring.
Very sturdy, and easy to clean.Excellent product
Do you had so far any compatibility issues with the pirelli p zero's on the SLR 1 Rims? Because there not officialy listed on the giant website?
Becausd i whould like to install aswell these tires on mine.
Thank you for reviewing an affordable bike!
How about Canyon Ultimate cf sl?? ANd whats the difference from tcr 2 or 3 about the frame??
I reckon the normal TCR Advanced 1+ without pro is less stiffer and a bit heavier. Is 8.4kg a realistic weight for size XL with the Giant carbon wheels?
Probably going to snag one of those frames for my wife. The PF BB issues are anecdotal... depends what climate you’re in, how often you maintain it, and how much riding you do. Once a year rebuild, or replace will solve any issues. It’s a $35 part... not gonna break the bank.
I have one. Love the bike but my BB had to be replaced within 100 miles. All good now.
@@drtyjrze I've logged 500+ miles since October on a DUB BB30... not a single issue. My SW SL6 is a custom (frame up) build however... I'd be willing to bet most PF BB issues are from OEM built bikes.
I have one like this. They're great bikes. If you find a deal they are great for the money. (I bought a model that's a couple years old, though still the latest version, with 105, OD2, and carbon wheels, or $2,800). The wheels are well-made but one complaint I have is that they are narrower than I want. I'd prefer them to be width optimized for 28 or 30mm tires. It's getting difficult these days to find a bike with a reasonable front end (standard stem and bars, external cables at the bar/stem) and I really appreciate that.
Hello David, thanks for review, would you please advise me where to buy your merge?
Awesome bike. Im on a TCR Advanced 1+ Disc (2021)
What's the weight of the 1+?
Weight?
@@Intentsrig Giant doesnt mention it on their website but it should be around 8 and 8.3 kg
IMO, what really sets this Giant apart is integrating a dual sided power meter at this price point. I’d imagine that’s going to cause other manufacturers to meet them there. Thoughts?
Awesome review David 🍻
Btw, Trek focused on bigger channels... LOL... you’d think they’d be more concerned with getting a fair and accurate review... 🤷🏽♂️
+ GIANTS App RIDELINK is terrible and it serves no real function
Just pulled the trigger on this due to this review after a heads/tails on the equivalent Defy. In the end the mentioned comfort even on a TCR got the nod and arrives in the next few days. Money well spent for Giant loaning you this methinks.
A few days?? I was told months for mine
@@andrewgiannini6094 depends on size you’re after. If you go to the Giant site they have some sizes in stock with retailers. Some of those pickup only but some post for free. I ordered mine (ML) at 11am and arrived at 10am next day.
Sounds like you lucked out! I ordered from a local Giant store in January and was told mid-summer for it to come in. ML aswell. How are you liking it so far?
@@andrewgiannini6094 well, I guess your banking on the stock your local shop has ordered. Other shops do have and for ML size a few scattered across the UK - just have to do a search by location and find any of them that are shipping. Was a doddle to put together. I just checked and 3 MLs in the UK. L, you’re out of luck. Had two rides. First was a fettle ride, so hard to tell. Did 30 miles today and loved every second. The power meter stats are great on my up front Garmin and the wheels sublime. I had thought cockpit a bit small but today was perfect. I’m 5,11. Frame stiff and shows, but not hard as bones stiff. Still comfy. My main worry was the compact gear setup. I have a local 20% and was worried the 36/30 would be a struggle. Did today and in reality it was no issues at all. All in a medium rather than a short rear cage with a 32 rear cassette would give more options on hills and still be as fast with the 52/11. But. Minor point. Can swap that out if I fancy. Coming from a Alu bike I loved this is a quality purchase with zero regrets.
How did u managed to fit Pzero tyres on it? Is it safe?
Fair call on the exposed cables - for me, I expect fully integrated cabling when the spec is hydraulic brakes and electronic shifting i.e. off-putting not to have integrated cabling on the next model up, the Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc
At least you get a power meter which no other spec at this price has
You can always just buy a power meter later.
You can’t buy an upgrade to make your frame have integrated cabling.
@@87togabito Indeed you´re right! I´m crazy about this bike bur paying almost 4000 euros and seeing those cables......I don´t understand why they´ve made it
Amazing bike! Disc brakes and tyre clearance is amazing for a road bike. You can go gravel riding on that already ))) I’m on ~2016 tcr advanced sl rim brake with quite wide Carbon rims And while amazing on road, not the best on gravel
To be honest, I’ve never really felt that the component on a bike should ever be a strong deciding factor on bicycle choice.
You can always upgrade the parts of a frame at a later date. However, you can’t upgrade the frame, short of buying a new bike. At which point you might as well just have gone with other bike to begin with.
In short, buy the bike you want, parts be damned.
Great video mate. I’m looking at getting a Merida Scultura Endurance 7000e although I’m starting to sway towards this bike. I seen one at my local bike shop and fell in love with it.
Love this bike!
is this the same as the 2021 TCR ADVANCED 1+ DISC PRO COMPACT? the naming is so confusing- thanks
I wish I had a road that quiet to ride on...
On another note, I might sell my Endurace to get one of these. I miss my TCR.
Hi david, I am 6’ 1”. Will ML be best size in tcr? Thanks
I owned the last disc version of the TCR and it is an exceotional bike. I now own the specialized Sl7. Why didn’t I go with the new Giant? Because I love the aesthetic of internally routed cables at the head tube. The excuse with respect to practicality is nonsense, with the clamshell stems taking down the handlebar for travel is absolutely no problem. Adjusting the number of spacers is also no problem. Watch giant do complete internal routing in 2024.
what size would you recommend tcr disc 1 for height 178cm and inner leg length 86.5