F1 2023 - Monaco FLOOR PARADE - Red Bull vs Ferrari vs Mercedes
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- As every year we get a good look at F1 floors in Monaco.
Let's have a detailed look at the Red Bull RB19 floor and explain why it is so special.
And let's compare Mercedes and Ferrari to the Red Bull's floor and compare them with their designs of last year!
Who did the biggest step?
Who improved what?
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This video was highly anticipated.
RBR, Ferrari and Merc be cringing sooooo hard right now…
so we have finally something interesting about how the Rb's DRS works, no triple DRS, juste a highly refined floor
Triple DRS just mean the 3 rear downforce generation elements "stall" at once
@@davidaugustofc2574 yeah..but The Race made a kind of theory about it and how it works..this is something else
@@Y2Si ah mate, The Race and sensationalism go hand in glove 😅. I can understand the appeal for people who just got into F1, now for me, I just wait 'till the actual engineers upload.
"Triple DRS" sky presenters came up with that and y'all took their word. 😂
I don't think you understand what the "Triple DRS" is
I was so bittersweetly happy when Sainz, Hamilton, and Perez binned it.
Now we just need Stroll in the wall tomorrow and we get to see all the top floors 😂.
I hope we don't see a suspicious crash by Stroll before an Alonso pit stop... that's the last conspiracy we need...
Predicting the future like a champ 😁
Hehe top floors
Red bull were furiously pissed the second they saw that wreck, knowing the crane would lift it for the world to see.
Thanks captain obvious
Lol
But the world don't know the flex or the stiffness of the floor.
Perez really f*cked his team up big time with this. Christmas came early for Mercedes and Aston Martin.
@@jervyan Whether it's the cranes lifting the cars or actual staff moving from one team to another - secrets don't stay secret for long in F1.
Remember how McLaren "invented" the F-duct and then everyone was copying it? That became replaced with DRS and then when Red Bull hired as many Mercedes engineers for vast sums of money in 2021?
Hats off to redbull. Their floor is so advanced. It is the work that matter and they have done the best work. Great to see merc is also catching up.
Copying up😂😂
Perez really dropped the ball for RB today exposing all their secrets, its Christmas come early for all of their rivals.
And maybe Perez have another foor than Max but nobody know the flex of the stiffness of the floor.
Yes, and it's the second year running that he's given all their secrets away.
So true. Perez trying to be Max. He's not as talented. Horner needs to put him in his place. Driver #2.
it's a moving target for other teams, by the time we are racing in Barcelona you're gonna have totally different floor than Monaco's. A week's not enough to understand and develop the whole floor
but everyone saw RB's floor in Monaco last season and yet they're even more dominant this season. It's not an easy job to copy a floor like that, clearly. Otherwise the entire grid right now would be RB19s
You know who's floor that I'm really interested to look at? Aston Martin. I want to see how it differs from the redbull floor being Dan Fellows from redbull.
These F1 cars are just an incredible work of art. Insane engineering, Aerodynamics and so much more. F1 always innovating technologies that are later on reproduced for commercial use.
With the way the FIA is continuously slowing down F1 cars, I half-heartedly joke that our personal vehicles are the "epitome" of motorsports. F1 will be even slower in 2026 with the new engines I'm sure. We have no need for ground effect in our day to day driving, so that's innovation we'll never see or even need.
@@skyeroy29 "We have no need for ground effect in our day to day driving" What do you mean? Lotus and Ferrari road cars have used ground effects for a very long time (a flat floor with a diffuser). It may not be relevant at road speeds, but they are dual use vehicles after all.
Fia likes to ban the art work you are speaking of, if u remember the DAS system
These diffuser floors, rear wings, sidepods, and front wings, aren't going to be reproduced on regular road cars and thus are not applicable for road use. For supercars maybe, but there is no current supercar that has the same kind of front wing, rear wing, sidepods, and diffuser design as F1 cars, not even the Valkyrie or AMG One.
@@skyeroy29 The V6 for 2023 is going to go from a baseline power of 850 down to about 550 if i remember correct, sure we get more power from the electric motor, but it will likely make the cars alot slower since they for some reason dont get more energy to store. But the good thing atleast is the active aero and smaller cars going on for 2026, so atleast they are trying to make the cars smaller and reduce the drag to counter the lowered hp number
Best Formula 1 aerodynamics UA-cam video of the year! To date 5-23
This dude has all the best aero videos hard stop.
@@zooski1516Kyle.Engineers is also great although he doesn’t upload very often
@@bigjamal5229 he is super detailed and makes long form
Thanks! This could be hugely beneficial to the Aston Martin team. Since their concept is closer to RB they could use some RB tricks and at least solidify their 2nd place in the Constructor's Championship.
RB does something the others aren't doing and it's obvious now, the inner floor fence is closer to the center body, flaring out at the trailing edge, this tells me they're trying to start the vortex that runs down the length of the floor as far back as possible. It makes sense to shorten the distance the vortex has to extend, this would make it easier to keep it consistent. They also have a little back-sweep angle, just at the tip.
Yeah, all the profiling on the underfloor supports this. No wonder they are so quick in the high-speed corners.
The outer floor fence on the RBs makes sense as they have a much more forward center of gravity then the Ferraris.
The fins at the floor edge aren’t strakes which is an interesting departure for RB.
This would be done to create more down force at lower speeds before releasing the air pressure out the side but if you also look at the images they are using two canals to create down force with a inner running the length of the car with the second canal running to the edge of the floor in a tight bottle neck creating a sealing effect between the edge of the floor and the first canal; at the same point of releasing the out wash of the two remaining canals. This; if I am correct means more down force at lower speeds and less drag or out wash air disturbance at higher speeds; followed by two kicks at the rear reducing the down force clearly timed at certain speeds to reduce porpoising. Very effective way to generating maximum down force but also releasing it at the right time and place to keep it effective in aiding the cars overall speed.
@@gaikokuhito5574 The floor fences do generate some drag, they can have an angle of 50 degrees, and up to 25 degrees of camber. The shapes allowed are pretty intricate, and their placement has a big influence on how the flow behaves.
You want a strong powerful vortex to run the length of the floor. The vortex flow structure keeps the air flowing around it energized.
The air that enters through the inner fence is the air that is mostly making it to the diffuser, the rest of the air is being outwashed, and creating the tunnel vortex.
The vortex has 2 functions, it keeps the air attached and energized, and it restricts airflow into the floor. It's like putting your thumb on a garden hose, your thumb restricts water flow, the pressure drops and the flow accelerates out of the hose.
The fences create a vortex which acts like an airflow restriction, the pressure drops and the airflow accelerates into the diffuser.
The edge wing is there to preserve, or enhance that vortex, so the floor can work the airflow. The outwash from the fences also has the added benefit of managing the front tire wake.
Anything that you can do to reduce tire squirt improves the performance of the floor.
any Vortex generated also increases drag hence it only make sense to start it as far back as possible but still produce the desired effect.
No unnecessary talking and straight to the point, thats how I like it. Thanks for the video!
You are welcome
Saw Quali this morning and got hyped for the floor parade
Am sure F1 engineers will be drooling over some of these pictures!
B sport: you can only work with these kicks if you know what you're doing.
Me: damn, there goes my formula 1 contructors entry proposal.
Last year teams were able to see RB floor but most of the grid still have troubles matching RB.
Exactly
tbf Ferrari and Merc kinda dropped the ball and didn't improve as much as Redbull did, luckily AM did improve a lot
Other teams tried to get Adrian Newey to work for them, he said no! That’s the only way that they could catch up. He will be already refining the floor for next year.
Seeing the floors of all these cars has been an absolute treat. I hope this spurs new developments as teams learn what Red Bull is up to :)
Great video. Probably the best video I've come across about how modern F1 floors actually work. 👍
That was a delightful video, I immediately thought of this channel when they lifted it in the air xD
Would be interesting to see how many places can perez make up...
The view from the cockpit when the crane lifted the redbull was insane..
Loved the floor analysis!
I was waiting for this to be posted
Probably you overlooked, that RB has also openings into the center of the floorplate, and IMHO, there are movable flaps operated with electric actuators, to change the flow when loosing weight during the race. This allows also better control of tire wear
Been waiting all day for this video
Amazing insight, great video!
Great recap. Thanks Mate - Those Picture are priceless
Probably Chico will not be continued his contract later on due to this incident as exposure of floor secret to the whole world. It is rarely to carry so much speed at corner 1 causing severely damage the car like that... This is also why RB car seldom involves in any accident and require lifting up the car. The floor design is one of the most secret recipe.....
When this happened to Perez today, the first thing I said was “I bet Ricciardo’s smiling inside” - he’d have had to hide his delight at probably getting nearer to driving for either Red Bull or Alpha Tauri.
It’s one thing to crash. But Checo’s crash today was just weird. Like he was going so hard and fast on a track that was only going to get more quicker as qualifying went on, during Q1 of all times. And the speed he tried to go into turn 1 was so quick my first thought was his brakes had an issue as he wasn’t close to making that corner.
Maybe in the future f1 can use fan like the mcmurtry to produce downforce, with bigger battery capacity, i think it’s possible. That’s going to make it even faster around the corner. Also f1 should never go fully electric, they should stay in between, with sustainable fuel, that is possible.
Very nice video. Good technical content. Subbed
Great, thanks a lot!
RB is years ahead the competition at the moment. I wonder how quickly other teams will react to these pictures.
The reaction is very quick. Within 48h teams can have this in CFD and the results.
Making it work is the hard part.
It's an interesting dilemma, though isn't it. Chase peak performance, or stick with a steady and predictable flow that you understand, and focus on developing other parts of the car with the limited CFD and tunnel time. Or perhaps a competitor's floor just confirms concepts you were considering. Ideally you need to pinch key staff, but then how do those personnel fit within your team? Do they complement each other or argue...
Make a vídeo about the IR-18 indycar aerodinamics, great vídeo!
Was looking forward to this video
I knew you're gonna do this. 🎉
Brilliant video 👏
Best F1 Tech Channel so far.
All the other teams looking at RB floor:
"WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN"
🤣
thanks, Checo
At least everyone should know red bulls drs advantage now, they also have a very steep diffuser exit which matches the beam wing, which also adds to the floor - DRS interaction
Nice one, plz elaborate a bit more about the kicks Red Bull uses !!
We can see RB Is Miles ahead sadly 😢
@julius malema yep, i've said the same,and now RB cheat too
@@fqeagles21 So building the fastest car is cheating now? OK, sure buddy.
@@holdemagroin1167 cheating are Illegal 2014 Merc test,2019 Ferrari engine, Exceeding the Budget cap and so on
Agreed Monaco never disappoint as always..
Yes, you posted so fast too
Quality as always
Thanks Checo 😊
Good video! I’ll be sure to follow your channel! 👍😊
Great! Welcome onboard!
I was suprised about the length of the safety cable of the mirror during the Perez crash.
The mirror ended up blocking the steering wheel, could easily broke his finger
Great video! New sub
Thanks! Welcome onboard!
AstonMartin Be like: Oh Boi, this is nice Information
great video !
Thanks for the visit
Hi Martin, as usual a very very clear and professional technical presentation that is understandable for both the greasers and the non-greasers. 💪
Glad you enjoyed it!
Congrats for the agility on the videos edition. U were stupidly fast
I like to know your subject.
You as a teacher would have been a dream.
As always super video!
Thanks! You can enjoy my online courses already.
RB had kicks in the floor also last year!
I'm atill baffled to why they would use huge cranes to lift these cars 40 feet in the air for the whole world to see? I mean it's great cause the whole garage can get a better idea of what RB has been doing. Checo wrecking probably will be the biggest game changing event to have taken place this year. We'll look back and say, that's when the field got closer.
Unlikely . He crashed last year at Monaco too and everyone saw the 2022 floor . If anything RB is faster this year compared to the rest
@@Scuderia47 Let them have their story about how Perez caused the RB demise 😂
The steps, and those kicks might be the answer
If you can draw these floors in cad and then compare will help us more
Echoing everyone's thoughts. Very expected video, and very happy it was made. Great work 👏🏽
Thanks!
Hi Team Principals 👋🏽
Kickpoints = laminar separation bubbles, so called "air bearings".
Is the Dyson V15 the best hoover for the RedBull floor?
Excellent video, just wish there was more coverage of current F1 technology like this on YT rather than the focus on drivers who although important are a side show to what F1 has always been about namely who can best interpret the FIA rules/regulations.
Also nice to see how respectful the comments section is compared to many F1 videos (guess it’s a different audience).
Once again many thanks for a great video.
Ironic that the team with Stroll didn’t crash so far.
I think this floor (from RB) help more the AMR23 (because is a copy from Rb18) then Mercedes and Ferrari.
Rumors says that Jonathan Wheatley called the Race director to liftup the Merc.
If true, karma has a way to get you back. RB ended up binning theirs and let everyone see in full detail. The whole argument that "it takes years to learn", etc. maybe true, but looking at a competitor and reverse-engineer it is nothing new - if you put your mind into something, you can learn things very, very quickly...these are some of the smartest engineers out there. Aston for example will learn quite a bit from this.
The other thing is that the Merc with all their updates did not bring a new floor -- they bought floor fences, but they haven't changed the full floor, yet. This floor is most likely the one they already had back in Bahrain.
If they bring the new floor to Barcelona, this is a genius move from Merc! No one would really know how far they are then. Good call
@@rocket_smash1681 You understand it was a joke right?.
@@TheFulcrum2000 it doesn't matter whether it is a joke or not, the point is Merc never bought a new floor anyway. The floor that we see here from Merc is most likely the one from Bahrain.
if they bring a new floor to Barcelona, then no one would really know how far they are in their understanding...its a good call for them.
Yes Jonathan? .... "All We Need Is One Snap Shot Michael, Why Are These Stewards Still In The Way?"
Die Teams waren bestimmt sehr erfreut über diese Unterbodenpresentationen😅.
ich küss dein herz bruder hab gebetet das du dazu ein video machst
I’m surprised that they Ferrari and Redbull and paste that these photos were taken. I didn’t ask for sheet to be placed under the car before it was lifted.
With Monaco being so notorious for crashes that lead into the floor designs being exposed would teams like Redbull who can afford some performance loss consider bringing a Spec B floor that does not provide some of the most important design elements and still provide good pace to be competitive?
my god the rb is so much more developed its insane
This guy floors!
ALL this magnificence hidden from view . This is the way the Pennzoil Chapparal was copied after a wreck after it turned over .
It’s quite outrageous that cranes are used and the intellectual property of the team’s are revealed!
I'm surprised the teams put-up with that.
4:56 What are the pressure taping ?
Active sensor or a passive solution ?
These are simply holes in the floor that connect to transducers to read the pressure.
@@BSport320 Thanks
Do the kicks in Red Bull's floor explain why they had a large rear wing at tracks where others had a small wing? Previously that was explained by them simply having the efficiency to do get away with it, but maybe it is also required in order to properly work the diffuser. Red Bull's super stressed diffuser flow might necessitate a large rear wing to work. Maybe that is why we see Red Bull running a high down force wing at low down force tracks.
That’s possible but only RB aeros would know.
Definitely those kicks have something yo do with it, and the DRS and also the steps
You can always trust Sergio to give the team's secrets away...
Aero team at redbull 🔥
Literally everyone after seetthe RB floor: Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!!!
Philipp Kaess could need some one who knows something about aerodynamic. Maybe you could help him?
Of course I could help, what problems does he have?
@@BSport320 He wants to know if his aerodynamic on his Fiat 500 is good and he also have some trouble with traktion on his rear axle. And I think he just want to learn more about aerodynamic over all.
Perez is definitely getting the boot now
Yuki time 😎
Monaco for the floor wins🎉🎉
the mercedes only had floor fence upgrades, so not a brand new floor fyi. interesting to see how much mercedes has caught up in complexity, yet how far behind they are still against the ferrari (at least in quali).
I wonder why redbull moved away from the innovative strake on the floor edge while ferrari has kept it and mercedes has also dropped it. seems there can be advantage there if you have a fixed point
Always a matter of time with these things, can't stay secret forever. I'm sure they will be rightly miffed at this but while other teams can probably get a decent idea of what they're doing, there's still so much development that goes into this that I think they'd still be hard pressed to copy it so easily.
Was Lance Stroll under instructions not to crash? I imagine Mercedes would like to know how Aston are quicker with the same engine and gearbox.
I was very surprised that the commenters on F1TV didn’t mention anything about getting a look up RB’s skirt as Checo’s crash was being carted off
Because it's close to irrelevant, the teams already had much of the info and on top it's not really actionable.. teams have their R&D funnel filled around 8 months in advance. Anything new they could learn from this images will only have an impact around November, when the RB floor will be already miles ahead
@@anameyoucantremember
I definitely wouldn’t go so far as to call it irrelevant, especially considering some of the comments engineers from other teams have made to the contrary in the intervening week since I made this post.
I agree that actionability would be limited due to time and cost constraints. It’s now more like a “oh, that’s how they did that” type of thing.
why didnt other teams add skids to the floor too?
Brilliant mate, you know what you’re talking about , thanks for the education !👍👏👏🏎🏁
LOL Shout out to the cranes and the F1 drivers!
Yeah the DRS is stalling the kicks :(
This just confirms the rumours of Adrian Newey: he’s a mad scientist through and through
@Aiman Azrie Late 70's...
There's your silver bullet. Red Bull's straight line speed unlocked.
How long will it take the other teams to copy redbull?
This is good for the fans if other teams get quicker.
Thanks redbull. Thanks Checo.
James Vowles said that it does help the teams with ideas when seeing the floor of others but they also need to understand why and how it works. It's like math: You can copy one solution but if you don't understand what you need to calculate and why you are worse than taking a longer way but which you do understand
LOL they don't know the Flex and the Stiffness of the floor
Hopefully soon
@@dustinkoehen well the pink Mercedes says “hold my beer”.
There were already pictures of the redbull floor from last year. And teams seem to have done nothing with those….
Nothing for any team to gain having these images , as part of a total package it’s just guessing . So there might be ideas , but to copy and expect similar results ! Forget it .
I preferred F1 when it was all about the wings. At least I could understand and see what was going on there. This floor do is hard to see and harder to understand.
The throat? The throat is the lowest part of the floor in front of the diffuser, not the inlet area with the strakes...and the "Triple"-DRS theory with a stalling beamwing and diffuser - i highly doubt that theory is true. If the beamwing would really be designed on the limit of a stall, so that its stalls when DRS is open, the beamwing would not work properly in other transient conditions, cornering etc.
RB are in 2024 or 25 in terms of developement.
Hello
Have you understand why reb bull floor looks so black and consumed since Q1?
Aston martin plzzz
This will be RBs worst nightmare
we can see the floors, but no one, not even engineers, can figure out all the secrets and how a certain part of the floor works except for the person who designed it.
Exactly, so we cannot really talk about the details, just point out the changes.
what is pressure tapping?
Points around the car where teams measure the pressure
@@BSport320 is it a hole & tube to pressure gauge?
@@ScaniaFung exactly, these are just lots of tiny holes. Each one of them is connected with a small tube which runs to a transducer, which converts it to an electric signal.