He did actually LEAVE him to die after the death of Jason Todd! Gordon killed him during the Endgame story, but the Joker was super-powered then (How did Gordon survive an ax to the chest again?).
.....Jason just wanted to see his mom, is that so wrong....? he didnt know the truth about what she had been up to, the FATMAN, with all his power, influence & money, should've checked rather than just let him go straight away :( poor lad x
@@killmonger5097 but not before pushing him to his limits, like Joker once said "anyone can snap, just have to push them enough", he left because he just wanted to prove he was something more, just to prove he can do what bat brain does just as well. Dont forget, hes just a kid, they can snap a lot quicker if they are not shown True love, compassion, leniency, like Alfred said :(
So, by this logic, it’s okay to leave your foster son in the hands of a crazed psychopath who would slowly torture him until death/insanity, depending on the adaptation?
@@GLUFSAREN There was literally a fan vote on if Jason lived or died and the fans voted (overwhelmingly) to kill him off. Yes they brought him back which just proves the old saying nobody stays dead in comics which is a terrible thing. Leaving him dead would have continued to give Joker something to lord over Bats
8: “If this happened who knows how many villains would have died from Batman’s hands?” Me: Joker, Bane, Mad Hatter, Riddler, Harley Quinn, Killer Croc, Anarky, Mr. Freeze, Man Bat, Deadshot, and many more. Sounds like a nice city without all those people.
Batman: I can't kill criminals, it will make me no worse than them! Also Batman: Leaves those same people to die, breaks every bone leaving them permanently disabled or worse, in a failing social system that sees them succumbing to alcoholism and other drugs which only recycles good people into criminals thus keeping a flawed city and Batman in power.
I actually like that Batman is not a straight up killer, but he should definitely at least have The Joker locked up somewhere waaaay more secure then Arkham, to protect everyone else from him.
This is why I think Brave and Bold Batman is the best Batman. Cuz while he is like comic Bruce, he’s friendlier, kinder and a tad more social than most Batmen. He’s paranoid sure but he’s not as paranoid, allowing him to form bonds with some hero’s.
Hypothetically speaking the batman who laughs wasn't the main batman story line and on top of that batman always has a contingency plan so this wouldn't be realistic to the known batman. He would've seen it coming and had a way to eliminate himself.
I love the convo and the picture at the end. "So how are we doing this photo? Spontaneous?" "Serious." "Sexy." "*Serious*." Then you see Bat have a smirk in the photo.
Jason Todd death should not be no. 1 as it was decided by readers to kill him not batman he had a life if he hadn't been killed. Plus many actually voted for saving at that time but a guy with access to a hack made the telephone ring so many times that they thought readers wanted him dead. 😭😭
As much as the Tower of Babel was a good story, it was also predicated on the dumbest premise ever. Batman, who habitually hacks into EVERYTHING, stores information on how to disable pretty much every super in the world including his friends, on a computer? I can completely see him having this information, but he would NEVER put it somewhere that could be accessed by anyone. Not only are the strengths and weaknesses of the supers outlined, but their secret identities as well. In other words, after hacking this file, RAG knows the secret ID of nearly every hero in the world. Personally, I would have lynched bats there and then.
I always imagine all of these plans are just things he devises in his head alone and sometimes on paper. He then shreds the paper, melts in, and then spreads the ashes to the four winds.
Can't even blame him leaving KGB Beast🤷♂️. Dont mess with the fam. This has ALWAYS been the BREAKING point of ANY hero. Because a human is still but an animal and there's the PRIMAL urge to protect kin thats DEEPLY ROOTED into almost every other species
That’s what I’m saying! I get that it goes against his moral code or whatever but at the same time if I was Batman seen my friend/brother/son get his brains blown out in front of me I’m doing the exact same thing, like I’m not about to help you bro KGB Beast must be smoking that Gotham Crack or something cause that fool on one asking for help after that lol.
Video title: The worst things BATMAN has done. Video content: One-third of the stories is villains doing bad things to Batman's family and Batman failing to stop them, but not for a lack of trying.
Gotta wonder, after the #8 entry, what kind of stuff Batman's villains are made out of. They know full well that Batman is basically a force of nature, you wave one gun in Gotham and Batman WILL come running. After seeing The Mad Hatter be beaten to a pulp and chucked in a river to drown, gotta wonder how some of the other villains look at the aftermath of Hatter being wheeled into Arkham on a stretcher and not think, "Maybe I shouldn't upset The Batman for once". Understandably, villains like Joker would walk into that with open arms while Poison Ivy has her superpowers to understandably make her a little cocky, yet most others in Batman's list are both fully aware of their situation and completely human. Looking at The Riddler, Arkham Knight suggests he remembers every single way Batman has attacked and bested him, his ego has to be ironclad for him to get back up and say, "I'll defeat you next time Batman!".
Batman really said can't have a childhood no one else should have it bro as a master/parent you should help your child not go through the things you went through.
No in my opinion it goes back to the old argument of 'if i start i won't be able to stop' So it's not like he's in it for the fun rather all he wants is to kill his enemies(especially joker) for all the things they've done
@@MrCmon113 No, more like If he starts, when does he stop? With just super villains? With lesser villains? Or with people who steal even to survive like pickpockets? If he becomes judge, jury, and executioner, will he stop at actual criminals, or will he kill anyone who breaks the law, even only slightly or accidentally? Will people he knows personally get an exception? Or will he track them down with as much fervor as he would people like the Joker? And remember, anyone can be an enemy to him, so will he kill all of the police in Gotham? Will he kill little old ladies who don't like him that swing their purses at him, because he could get injured more than he knows because of it, even just in case of them being used (accidentally or purposely) by his actual foes?
That literally doesn't track. There are easier and legal ways in the D.C, universe Batman could accomplish that goal. People who think this way show how sighted other are. Say Batman kills his enemies. So what happened every time one of his enemies he let live saved lives and ended up saving the world? Good job you just destroyed the world. --What if Batman is ever wrong? Something the writers think about, but trolls like this never do. --People are framed ALL THE TIME in the D.C universe. What about the people under mind control? Since Batman just murders the person committing the crime. So, does anyone even figure out they were mind controlled into these acts? Hell if this troll was Batman he'd actually be helping get rid of the evidence. --Since every villain knows Batman kills why would they ever surrender? Knowing they're going to die there's no reason not to do everything possible to escape.Rob a store? Well you better kill everyone and blow up the building. Killed someone? Better kill a lot more and frame someone. Otherwise you're likely to end up dead. --During this decade the murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty. Though that might have t do with that on nearly every sociological measure of well-being,(including murder rates) you’re most likely to find the more secular states with the lowest levels of faith in God and the lowest rates of church attendance faring the best and the most religious states with the highest levels of faith in God and rates of church attendance faring the worst. Gotham is very religious. So crime rates wouldn't fall. --Batman would end up killing people that went on to become heroes themselves. Well as erasing every hero ever mind controlled. --The police and Gotham have no reason to trust Batman. As he might kill any of them, at any time. As no one considers where does he draw the line? Batman has no way of telling them what crimes they'll be executed for.What if Batman hears rumors your loved one's going to hurt someone. It's in his best interest he kills your loved one. They'll simply find dead bodies with no explanation. It'd appear as though he was a serial killer. ---He'll also create a new breed of criminals. As only those who find a way to escape detection survive.We also know killing The Joker created the Batman Who Laughs. So, this idea ensures that happens in the D.C, Prime universe, I could keep going.
The amount of evil but understandable things batman has done is ridiculous but it's all understandable anddddd the amount of stuff Alfred has watched and stayed by his side
If Bruce had let Dick Grayson or Tim Drake go up against Bane, he would have been killed. Only an extremist like Valley could go up against Bane and win.
That’s NOT Dustin Nguyen. That’s the actor not the comic book artist. I remember back in early 2000’s following his website of Batman art. So cool a Vietnamese comic book fan now turn artist for DC Comics.
You're right, it doesn't. Anytime a writer writes Bruce like a cold and heartless mentor means they've forgotten why Batman is a hero in the first place and why Dick (and the kind of person that he is) is his prefered partner, whether as Robin or Nightwing. Batman is broody, but that's NOT his entire charcter, he wants people safe, wants criminals rehabilited (for the most part), and wholly believes that Nightwing is the one person in his life that he did right by and is very proud of who Dick has become as a hero and a person. A better man than Bruce is.
That's why I love that moment in "Young justice" when Wonder woman judges Batman for turning Dick into a crime fighter, a he responded that he did it so Dick won't become like him.
had fatman adopted/had Robin, he wouldnt have needed to be trained.....he couldve helped the kids get adopted with all his power, influence & money, or he couldve made the orphanages MUCH better places to live in :/ x
11:24 my dads had a bad past and was stripped of his childhood, but he always tells me that *no one* should be stripped of there childhood, it just isn't right
Why dont Batman just catch the Joker and then pays like 10 guys to always watch him so he can’t do anything to escape or get a flying prison, dude has money for spy eye but puts joker always back into Arkham just to see jayjay dead
This list is one way that DC could start their own what if series about heros going off the edge and becoming something worse than the villans but this should be just about Batman Superman, the flash, green arrow, mr terrific they all have dark areas that if done in a different way would change the JLU or JLA forever that would be cool.
Number 10 is wrong because the joker was lying when he said he knew who the bat family was. Batman explains that he visited The Joker in prison as Bruce Wayne and the Joker refused to look at him. The Joker doesn’t care who Batman is under the mask. Well at least in that story
Aqua Man being terrified of a glass of water will always be hilarious to me! One guy gets set on fire, another man is frozen solid, but Aqua Man just needs to be terrified of water to be completely disregarded as a non-threat, despite still possessing his non-water related power of super strength. They could have just dropped him in the middle of a large desert without a phone.
Steph didn't die. Leslie Thompkins faked her death, so she would be far away from the hero business. She came back around the time Cass retired from being Batgirl. While Stephanie Brown did face brutal injuries during War Games, she didn't die. I really wish you'd correct that misinformation. Batman never gave her a fair chance at being Robin, and looked for any and every reason to fire her, as he only entertained her desire to be Robin, in order to get Tim back. In the end, the plan worked. Tim came back to being to Robin, until Damian stole the role from him.
This comic sounds like a standalone thing. An author's attempt at explaining how Batman training Robin might have gone down. The idea sounded good until the end. Batman wants Robin to be a brooding loner like him? Alfred calling Bruce a bastard? Yea no, this ultimately doesn't work.
What pisses me off is batman spares joker after the death of jason todd. But its heavily implied that he snaps jokers neck in the last panel of the killing joke comic. He laughs at the jokers final joke then a black panel with *crunch* like im sorry for what happened to barbra but why wasnt jason worth avenging
Lol there is no”master plan” to win against Superman IF Superman wanted to end Batman . The only reason Batman ever wins any encounter with supes is because Superman wasn’t even trying to win.
Since I was a child Batman has always been my idol, for he represents that you don’t need superpowers to be super. But y’all have no idea how much I loathe how often they tend to write off Batman as a cynical asshole in recent comic nowadays, makes my idol look like a villain, and that’s what I despite the most. 😤
People come at Batman for not killing people, but act like Superman or Spiderman are not Superheroes too. Superheroes don't kill. They save lives. If they killed their enemies, they wouldn't be heroes to begin with. They would be murderers and then arrested for killing someone. I respect that Batman doesn't kill. It takes discipline to not go overboard.
Failing another person due to another person actions doesn't make Batman's own actions bad. Like the last one. Failing another person through no fault of Batman's actions doesn't mean that Batman did a bad thing.
Well, he just needed to know Batman is Bruce Wayne to learn all the other members' identities, through adoption registers or newspapers. Plus, he already knew Jason Todd was Red Hood and Barbara was Batgirl.
@@fm_0523 right but that wouldn't effect Damien though let's be real anyone close to Bruce would be in danger that is why Peter Parker never told he was Spider-Man until terrible writers got their hands on him
@@drakependragon8439 yes but he litteraly shares the same surname as Bruce, plus he's the son of the most famous billionaire of Gotham, he must be everywhere on the news.
Are we just gonna forget that he basically "made" Joker in The Red Hood/The Killing Joke Movie??? Guys down on their luck don't just fall into tubs of boiling acid themselves. Also, what about when he almost killed Bane by making him overload on his venom??? Didn't he disrupt somebody from becoming fully human at one point (I think it was either Two-Face or Dr. Freeze)??? If Batman really wants to make Gotham a better place, maybe fix the damn city? The lagal justice system? Actually get these people some help instead of just letting them continue to be corrupt and kill more people!
Bruce knows that HIS identity is safe with joker because joker doesn’t care about Wayne the thing is the rest of the batfamily aren’t privy to this wierd dynamic
I know this videos a year old but to be fair KGB Beast always comes back and I’m pretty sure after he did that every super that is friends with nightwing just beats him to near death or to death but he always comes back
To those who are saying his biggest mistake is Batman not killing his villains clearly don’t get the point of being a HERO. A Batman that kills is not Batman. Here’s a quote that perfectly represents Batman Friedrich Nietzsche - Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
A HERO who let his villains live...and then his villains CONTINUE TO KILL MORE people. Yea screw that. If Batman and Joker exist in real life, 99% of people will be pissed at Batman for sure.
Not actual going to happen. There is like three different curses on gotham and something in there water making them go made. Killing would not really make much of a difference.
He's also be wanted by entries u.s. government,the justice league (if they even are still a team seeing as Bruce plays for everything there)and possibly even other villains from different cities (mostly likely lex Luthor)
The worst thing Batman has ever done, was not simply put the Joker down. There shouldn't have ever been any questions about it, the Joker is an obvious and ongoing threat to everyone and everything around him. It's actually one of the most frustrating aspects of the character, there's no way that anyone would ever let the Joker live because he's too much of a danger to everyone. It's like having a walking nuclear weapon that might randomly go off at any moment. Joker has repeatedly shot his own guys, in front of other gang members, just to maintain power. There's basically no way that the Joker would have survived for very long, one of those goons would have just shot him in the back a long time ago.
My theory is that the reason batman doesn't kill joker is because he knows if he does kill him he would not be able to cope with the fact that he could have done it earlier and saved many more lives so he has to not kill the joker so he can keep the idea that he is doing the right thing in his head
He doesn’t do u even have any knowledge on that Joker died in that encounter Tim was fine and jason never existed because this was before his red hood reveal in comics and no one liked him as robin at the time
Batman believes in redemption and hope that people can be reformed. That's why he doesn't kill. He bring them to a system that can rehabilitate them and make Gotham better.
How were the other robins ‘grandfathered’ in? Dick was adopted after his parents died Jason was a little rando street punk iirc Tim proved his detective skills to earn the title Am I misremembering?
Batman doesn't kill because he knows that for him, there'd be no way back. The slippery slope argument completely applies to him because he's just as crazy as the villains he faces. The morality code is proof of that. It's his baseline, his way of keeping himself in check and not taking that last step into pure madness. A lot of people either don't recognize that or don't think he's just as insane as his villains, which just shows they don't know the character that well. I mean, people use Tower of Babel as proof of his genius and how he 'can beat' anybody when the reality of that story is Bruce is really a cold person incapable of having any type of real relationship with most people. The Justice League viewed him as a friend, he viewed them as inevitable threats he would have to take down. That's not the type of person to praise.
Justice League Doom is one of my favorite movies it's so realistic like I'm sorry all of you have powers that can nuke cities in seconds but I'm not taking that chance
So batman had pills that basically killed hin for at leasr a few days and woke up after his funeral with no brain damage or did Clark play along? Surely he'd be able to notice if his heart was still beating no matter how slow it was.
"If I didn't have a childhood, why he should have one?" Man I hated that part of the vídeo. Because Batman always said that he wants Dick to be better than him and he wants Dick to not become him. Trust me that Bruce is self-aware that being Batman is horrible
Why was green lantern so prejudice against blind people? Most blind people have plenty of will to live their life, the ring works on will power. What exactly is stopping him?
I’m surprised Number 1 wasn’t “Letting the Joker live”
He did actually LEAVE him to die after the death of Jason Todd! Gordon killed him during the Endgame story, but the Joker was super-powered then (How did Gordon survive an ax to the chest again?).
Lol if angry fans didn't make joker kill Jason they would've had a better relationship
agreed
He left Joker to die at the end of Joker War. Joker, like always, found a way to survive.
@@matthewschwartz6607 plot armor
How is Batman failing to save Jason in time because Jason ignored him and got his self in a trap the worst thing he’s ever done that makes no sense
Plus it was the readers decision at that time by a vote should he live or die
.....Jason just wanted to see his mom, is that so wrong....? he didnt know the truth about what she had been up to, the FATMAN, with all his power, influence & money, should've checked rather than just let him go straight away :( poor lad x
@@beasty909 your just a Batman hater that has nothing to do with being the worst thing he’s ever done and he told him to stay and not go anywhere
@@killmonger5097 but not before pushing him to his limits, like Joker once said "anyone can snap, just have to push them enough", he left because he just wanted to prove he was something more, just to prove he can do what bat brain does just as well. Dont forget, hes just a kid, they can snap a lot quicker if they are not shown True love, compassion, leniency, like Alfred said :(
So, by this logic, it’s okay to leave your foster son in the hands of a crazed psychopath who would slowly torture him until death/insanity, depending on the adaptation?
So when Batman ends his enemies that’s bad, but it’s bad when doesn’t end other enemies.
Yes thats how it works
I like to think it’s just easier on the writers if he didn’t kill every villain in their first appearances
Hey, what's it like seeing morality as a totally black and white binary concept like a mid-2010's RPG videogame?
@@Xx_Venom_Fox_xX whats it like getting heated over a comment on a batman video and getting completly ignored ?
@@shaggyg7354 Whats it like for you right now, hows your day been 😊?
True number 1 : Every single time Batman was abusive (physically or verbally) towards Alfred.
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All star batman=worst Batman
Arkham batman = best batman
@@thedarkestkni9ht I'd say tas batman and arkham batman are equally great
@@villager2342 maybe
@@thedarkestkni9ht no no no, The dark knight returns batman >>>
Todd died because fans hated him and wanted him gone so it was way less about Batman failing. Also they brought Todd back
That's not true, just because a vocal minority disliked him doesn't mean the majority did. They lost more killing him than they did having him.
@@GLUFSAREN There was literally a fan vote on if Jason lived or died and the fans voted (overwhelmingly) to kill him off. Yes they brought him back which just proves the old saying nobody stays dead in comics which is a terrible thing. Leaving him dead would have continued to give Joker something to lord over Bats
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At least we got his Red Hood from it all
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@@drakependragon8439 wouldn't say overwhelmingly, Todd died by mere 72 votes out of ten thousands. But yeah the fans killed him.
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8: “If this happened who knows how many villains would have died from Batman’s hands?”
Me: Joker, Bane, Mad Hatter, Riddler, Harley Quinn, Killer Croc, Anarky, Mr. Freeze, Man Bat, Deadshot, and many more. Sounds like a nice city without all those people.
“I never had that, why should he?”
Holy fuck, Bruce. That’s shallow as hell
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Batman: I can't kill criminals, it will make me no worse than them!
Also Batman: Leaves those same people to die, breaks every bone leaving them permanently disabled or worse, in a failing social system that sees them succumbing to alcoholism and other drugs which only recycles good people into criminals thus keeping a flawed city and Batman in power.
The real reason is that he refuses to be like Joe Chill.
I actually like that Batman is not a straight up killer, but he should definitely at least have The Joker locked up somewhere waaaay more secure then Arkham, to protect everyone else from him.
Hearing plot armor say “You Bastard” in a British accent is something I never knew I needed 😂
11:30 Alfred literally being the only sane person in the Batfamily
This is why I think Brave and Bold Batman is the best Batman. Cuz while he is like comic Bruce, he’s friendlier, kinder and a tad more social than most Batmen. He’s paranoid sure but he’s not as paranoid, allowing him to form bonds with some hero’s.
I agree with you cause I like the Brave and the Bold Batman better too cause it's a tribute to the silver age of DC comics and when it was wholesome.
Wait didn’t he also leave KGB Beast in a room with no way out and no supplies? Didn’t that count as trying to kill him as well?
If I remember correctly that was Retconned.
He also left Joker to die at the end of Joker War. Joker managed to escape on his own, though he had very little time to do so.
@@swandive46 also all the henchmen he beat down that die silently off the screen.
Yeah, in the pre-Flashpoint timeline. This was the time where Dick took a bullet to the head and became Ric Grayson for a while.
How about he gets turned into the batman who laughs. He literally kills his entire bat-family.
and the justice league
Hypothetically speaking the batman who laughs wasn't the main batman story line and on top of that batman always has a contingency plan so this wouldn't be realistic to the known batman. He would've seen it coming and had a way to eliminate himself.
Totally his fault.
I'm surprised they blame Batman for Jasons death. It was the fans that caused this 😆
I love the convo and the picture at the end. "So how are we doing this photo? Spontaneous?" "Serious." "Sexy." "*Serious*." Then you see Bat have a smirk in the photo.
Jason Todd death should not be no. 1 as it was decided by readers to kill him not batman he had a life if he hadn't been killed. Plus many actually voted for saving at that time but a guy with access to a hack made the telephone ring so many times that they thought readers wanted him dead. 😭😭
Recruiting kids to fight deranged criminals
Even thought some of the die
Seriously, I never understood why Batman would bring children into such a dangerous situation. No iteration has ever made that make sense.
@@multitudeofidols as it kid it somewhat made sense as i wished that was me
but now that im old its just😬
No if we are being specific he never left him to die… pov Batman : “ I didn’t leave him to die. I left him to get his own help.”
As much as the Tower of Babel was a good story, it was also predicated on the dumbest premise ever. Batman, who habitually hacks into EVERYTHING, stores information on how to disable pretty much every super in the world including his friends, on a computer? I can completely see him having this information, but he would NEVER put it somewhere that could be accessed by anyone. Not only are the strengths and weaknesses of the supers outlined, but their secret identities as well. In other words, after hacking this file, RAG knows the secret ID of nearly every hero in the world.
Personally, I would have lynched bats there and then.
I always imagine all of these plans are just things he devises in his head alone and sometimes on paper. He then shreds the paper, melts in, and then spreads the ashes to the four winds.
Can't even blame him leaving KGB Beast🤷♂️. Dont mess with the fam. This has ALWAYS been the BREAKING point of ANY hero.
Because a human is still but an animal and there's the PRIMAL urge to protect kin thats DEEPLY ROOTED into almost every other species
That’s what I’m saying! I get that it goes against his moral code or whatever but at the same time if I was Batman seen my friend/brother/son get his brains blown out in front of me I’m doing the exact same thing, like I’m not about to help you bro KGB Beast must be smoking that Gotham Crack or something cause that fool on one asking for help after that lol.
@@Doodamac RIGHT!? The AUDACITY of that man😭
So one of Batman's worst offenses was basically creating a real life 1984.
Video title: The worst things BATMAN has done.
Video content: One-third of the stories is villains doing bad things to Batman's family and Batman failing to stop them, but not for a lack of trying.
Gotta wonder, after the #8 entry, what kind of stuff Batman's villains are made out of. They know full well that Batman is basically a force of nature, you wave one gun in Gotham and Batman WILL come running. After seeing The Mad Hatter be beaten to a pulp and chucked in a river to drown, gotta wonder how some of the other villains look at the aftermath of Hatter being wheeled into Arkham on a stretcher and not think, "Maybe I shouldn't upset The Batman for once". Understandably, villains like Joker would walk into that with open arms while Poison Ivy has her superpowers to understandably make her a little cocky, yet most others in Batman's list are both fully aware of their situation and completely human. Looking at The Riddler, Arkham Knight suggests he remembers every single way Batman has attacked and bested him, his ego has to be ironclad for him to get back up and say, "I'll defeat you next time Batman!".
Man, I can’t wait till you get to Professor X and Iron Man (Or even Reed Richards or Hank Pym.).
Batman really said can't have a childhood no one else should have it bro as a master/parent you should help your child not go through the things you went through.
The worst thing he does is to let his enemies live.
That kind of reveals that he is in it for the fun of fighting rather than for helping people.
No in my opinion it goes back to the old argument of 'if i start i won't be able to stop'
So it's not like he's in it for the fun rather all he wants is to kill his enemies(especially joker) for all the things they've done
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Total nonsense.
I can't help you out of the burning building, otherwise I will become a burglar.
@@MrCmon113 No, more like If he starts, when does he stop? With just super villains? With lesser villains? Or with people who steal even to survive like pickpockets? If he becomes judge, jury, and executioner, will he stop at actual criminals, or will he kill anyone who breaks the law, even only slightly or accidentally? Will people he knows personally get an exception? Or will he track them down with as much fervor as he would people like the Joker? And remember, anyone can be an enemy to him, so will he kill all of the police in Gotham? Will he kill little old ladies who don't like him that swing their purses at him, because he could get injured more than he knows because of it, even just in case of them being used (accidentally or purposely) by his actual foes?
if he kill then he's not the batman he was,beside if he do kill he will become a monster rather than a hero
That literally doesn't track. There are easier and legal ways in the D.C, universe Batman could accomplish that goal. People who think this way show how sighted other are. Say Batman kills his enemies. So what happened every time one of his enemies he let live saved lives and ended up saving the world? Good job you just destroyed the world.
--What if Batman is ever wrong? Something the writers think about, but trolls like this never do.
--People are framed ALL THE TIME in the D.C universe. What about the people under mind control? Since Batman just murders the person committing the crime. So, does anyone even figure out they were mind controlled into these acts? Hell if this troll was Batman he'd actually be helping get rid of the evidence.
--Since every villain knows Batman kills why would they ever surrender? Knowing they're going to die there's no reason not to do everything possible to escape.Rob a store? Well you better kill everyone and blow up the building. Killed someone? Better kill a lot more and frame someone. Otherwise you're likely to end up dead.
--During this decade the murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty. Though that might have t do with that on nearly every sociological measure of well-being,(including murder rates) you’re most likely to find the more secular states with the lowest levels of faith in God and the lowest rates of church attendance faring the best and the most religious states with the highest levels of faith in God and rates of church attendance faring the worst. Gotham is very religious. So crime rates wouldn't fall.
--Batman would end up killing people that went on to become heroes themselves. Well as erasing every hero ever mind controlled.
--The police and Gotham have no reason to trust Batman. As he might kill any of them, at any time. As no one considers where does he draw the line? Batman has no way of telling them what crimes they'll be executed for.What if Batman hears rumors your loved one's going to hurt someone. It's in his best interest he kills your loved one. They'll simply find dead bodies with no explanation. It'd appear as though he was a serial killer.
---He'll also create a new breed of criminals. As only those who find a way to escape detection survive.We also know killing The Joker created the Batman Who Laughs. So, this idea ensures that happens in the D.C, Prime universe, I could keep going.
The jason todd thing has pointed several arrows of blame at people. batman, the joker and the people who read the comics, who voted to kill him.
Was gonna say letting his villains kills hundreds of thousands, lets see this video
The amount of evil but understandable things batman has done is ridiculous but it's all understandable anddddd the amount of stuff Alfred has watched and stayed by his side
Stephanie shouldnever have been allowed to take up the mantle. Batman should have told her she is not Robin.
If Bruce had let Dick Grayson or Tim Drake go up against Bane, he would have been killed. Only an extremist like Valley could go up against Bane and win.
I really think you should have let it be known that your #1 moment, was made possible by the fans voting for joker to win.
That’s NOT Dustin Nguyen. That’s the actor not the comic book artist.
I remember back in early 2000’s following his website of Batman art.
So cool a Vietnamese comic book fan now turn artist for DC Comics.
the list is pretty spot on, i would have given a honorable mention Batman and Harvey during the Long Halloween
"I never did. Why should he?"
Dunno, but this doesn't really sound like Batman. 😕
You're right, it doesn't. Anytime a writer writes Bruce like a cold and heartless mentor means they've forgotten why Batman is a hero in the first place and why Dick (and the kind of person that he is) is his prefered partner, whether as Robin or Nightwing.
Batman is broody, but that's NOT his entire charcter, he wants people safe, wants criminals rehabilited (for the most part), and wholly believes that Nightwing is the one person in his life that he did right by and is very proud of who Dick has become as a hero and a person. A better man than Bruce is.
That's why I love that moment in "Young justice" when Wonder woman judges Batman for turning Dick into a crime fighter, a he responded that he did it so Dick won't become like him.
Had Batman not been merciless training Robin he would have died and had no adolescence at all.
had fatman adopted/had Robin, he wouldnt have needed to be trained.....he couldve helped the kids get adopted with all his power, influence & money, or he couldve made the orphanages MUCH better places to live in :/ x
@@beasty909 he had stop being a braindead Jason fans and just accept the Jason got himself killed and no one liked him
11:24 my dads had a bad past and was stripped of his childhood, but he always tells me that *no one* should be stripped of there childhood, it just isn't right
Why dont Batman just catch the Joker and then pays like 10 guys to always watch him so he can’t do anything to escape or get a flying prison, dude has money for spy eye but puts joker always back into Arkham just to see jayjay dead
8:27 Oh PUH LEASE! The original Batman ran around bussing caps in criminals!
Shh.. don’t let the Batman fans know that the original version carried around and used a revolver..
@@SPFLDAngler oh please I've known back when the dab made you popular
This list is one way that DC could start their own what if series about heros going off the edge and becoming something worse than the villans but this should be just about Batman Superman, the flash, green arrow, mr terrific they all have dark areas that if done in a different way would change the JLU or JLA forever that would be cool.
Red Good/Jason Todd (Titans)
V.S
Nightwing/Dick Grayson (Injustice 1 game)
V.S
Robin (Teen Titans Go)
V.S
Robin/Tim Drake (DC Comic)
who wins?
Number 10 is wrong because the joker was lying when he said he knew who the bat family was. Batman explains that he visited The Joker in prison as Bruce Wayne and the Joker refused to look at him. The Joker doesn’t care who Batman is under the mask. Well at least in that story
Aqua Man being terrified of a glass of water will always be hilarious to me! One guy gets set on fire, another man is frozen solid, but Aqua Man just needs to be terrified of water to be completely disregarded as a non-threat, despite still possessing his non-water related power of super strength. They could have just dropped him in the middle of a large desert without a phone.
Is anyone caught on the fact he keeps saying Jarvis
Steph didn't die. Leslie Thompkins faked her death, so she would be far away from the hero business. She came back around the time Cass retired from being Batgirl. While Stephanie Brown did face brutal injuries during War Games, she didn't die. I really wish you'd correct that misinformation. Batman never gave her a fair chance at being Robin, and looked for any and every reason to fire her, as he only entertained her desire to be Robin, in order to get Tim back.
In the end, the plan worked. Tim came back to being to Robin, until Damian stole the role from him.
Kumalalah kumalalah kumalalah savesta
I like ti think Joker always knew, it just would of been too boring to reveal him to the world.
Alfred: you bastard
WOW!
I never saw alfred like this
This version of batman is kinda scary and really awesome to see batman is a freak of nature batman has been through trauma thorough his life
my man that was unreadable
#8 isn't that bad tbh. I mean yeah he almost broke the code but that's one less criminal to worry about
10:55 ...ok thats KINDA...MESSED UP. Even for Batman😭😭😭. NO WONDER Dick went out on his own
This comic sounds like a standalone thing. An author's attempt at explaining how Batman training Robin might have gone down. The idea sounded good until the end.
Batman wants Robin to be a brooding loner like him? Alfred calling Bruce a bastard? Yea no, this ultimately doesn't work.
Damien is the 4th last time I checked Stephanie Robin not even cannon
Not anymore at least
What pisses me off is batman spares joker after the death of jason todd. But its heavily implied that he snaps jokers neck in the last panel of the killing joke comic. He laughs at the jokers final joke then a black panel with *crunch* like im sorry for what happened to barbra but why wasnt jason worth avenging
Why did u keep saying “well and (insert negative situation)” I could’ve played a drinking game out of that
Lol there is no”master plan” to win against Superman IF Superman wanted to end Batman . The only reason Batman ever wins any encounter with supes is because Superman wasn’t even trying to win.
No, he was weaker because of a nuclear missile. Bruce chose the perfect time to strike.
Since I was a child Batman has always been my idol, for he represents that you don’t need superpowers to be super. But y’all have no idea how much I loathe how often they tend to write off Batman as a cynical asshole in recent comic nowadays, makes my idol look like a villain, and that’s what I despite the most. 😤
People come at Batman for not killing people, but act like Superman or Spiderman are not Superheroes too. Superheroes don't kill. They save lives. If they killed their enemies, they wouldn't be heroes to begin with. They would be murderers and then arrested for killing someone. I respect that Batman doesn't kill. It takes discipline to not go overboard.
Failing another person due to another person actions doesn't make Batman's own actions bad. Like the last one. Failing another person through no fault of Batman's actions doesn't mean that Batman did a bad thing.
I prefer when Batman didn't do those contingencies and someone needs to save him and keeping him in check
Half the sidekicks weren't even around when Joker got in his cave.
Well, he just needed to know Batman is Bruce Wayne to learn all the other members' identities, through adoption registers or newspapers. Plus, he already knew Jason Todd was Red Hood and Barbara was Batgirl.
@@fm_0523 right but that wouldn't effect Damien though let's be real anyone close to Bruce would be in danger that is why Peter Parker never told he was Spider-Man until terrible writers got their hands on him
@@drakependragon8439 Damian was, indeed, affected.
@@fm_0523 yes all of them were bit Damian had no record of adoption or anything but again comics logic
@@drakependragon8439 yes but he litteraly shares the same surname as Bruce, plus he's the son of the most famous billionaire of Gotham, he must be everywhere on the news.
Are we just gonna forget that he basically "made" Joker in The Red Hood/The Killing Joke Movie??? Guys down on their luck don't just fall into tubs of boiling acid themselves. Also, what about when he almost killed Bane by making him overload on his venom??? Didn't he disrupt somebody from becoming fully human at one point (I think it was either Two-Face or Dr. Freeze)??? If Batman really wants to make Gotham a better place, maybe fix the damn city? The lagal justice system? Actually get these people some help instead of just letting them continue to be corrupt and kill more people!
It’s just KGBEAST btw not KGB Beast
Bruce knows that HIS identity is safe with joker because joker doesn’t care about Wayne the thing is the rest of the batfamily aren’t privy to this wierd dynamic
KGBeast > KGB beast
I know this videos a year old but to be fair KGB Beast always comes back and I’m pretty sure after he did that every super that is friends with nightwing just beats him to near death or to death but he always comes back
Batman's the same as the thugs he fights.
To those who are saying his biggest mistake is Batman not killing his villains clearly don’t get the point of being a HERO. A Batman that kills is not Batman. Here’s a quote that perfectly represents Batman
Friedrich Nietzsche - Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
A HERO who let his villains live...and then his villains CONTINUE TO KILL MORE people. Yea screw that. If Batman and Joker exist in real life, 99% of people will be pissed at Batman for sure.
If Batman killed the criminals instead of capturing them so they can be arrested Gotham would be completely crime free within a year.
Not actual going to happen. There is like three different curses on gotham and something in there water making them go made. Killing would not really make much of a difference.
He's also be wanted by entries u.s. government,the justice league (if they even are still a team seeing as Bruce plays for everything there)and possibly even other villains from different cities (mostly likely lex Luthor)
Brutal training is always indeed brutal
Man, dude. Batman is f***ed up. You can’t really justify child soldiers to me lol
batman who laugh and his kills rival @
The worst thing Batman has ever done, was not simply put the Joker down. There shouldn't have ever been any questions about it, the Joker is an obvious and ongoing threat to everyone and everything around him.
It's actually one of the most frustrating aspects of the character, there's no way that anyone would ever let the Joker live because he's too much of a danger to everyone. It's like having a walking nuclear weapon that might randomly go off at any moment. Joker has repeatedly shot his own guys, in front of other gang members, just to maintain power. There's basically no way that the Joker would have survived for very long, one of those goons would have just shot him in the back a long time ago.
My theory is that the reason batman doesn't kill joker is because he knows if he does kill him he would not be able to cope with the fact that he could have done it earlier and saved many more lives so he has to not kill the joker so he can keep the idea that he is doing the right thing in his head
I bet Batman regrets not killing the Joker after what he did to Tim Drake in the animated universe since Jason Todd also existed in the same universe
He doesn’t do u even have any knowledge on that Joker died in that encounter Tim was fine and jason never existed because this was before his red hood reveal in comics and no one liked him as robin at the time
@@a1saiyan5 no there is a comic of the new adventures of Batman that reveals redhood jason Todd exists
@@SHINIGAMI6774 Jason is exist in the dcau?
The most horrible thing that batman ever does
Is letting criminals live and put them in jail so they can escape for his fun
Oh but it’s okay when other heroes do it? Batman isn’t the only superhero that doesn’t kill
Batman believes in redemption and hope that people can be reformed. That's why he doesn't kill. He bring them to a system that can rehabilitate them and make Gotham better.
No...when Z mind wiped Batman and Dr. Light during Identity Crisis...THATS when he lost trust...
Has any Batman from any universe in the DC Comics ever changed Gotham?
Was it on purpose you used 21 Jump Street Dustin Nguyen instead of Dustin Nguyen artist? Lol.
Batman also made one of the robins dig their own grave
Wasn't that in a Frank miller comic? If so, the majority of fans have vehemently rejected that one.
How were the other robins ‘grandfathered’ in?
Dick was adopted after his parents died
Jason was a little rando street punk iirc
Tim proved his detective skills to earn the title
Am I misremembering?
No one hurts Batman’s kids unless it’s Batman himself
"failure is a way of life in gotham city"
asia parent : good i will send my son to gotham so he can learn from his mistake FAILURE
To be honest, if a guy tries to kill my SON, I would return the favor
"Top 10 Best Things Batman Has Ever Done!"
Batman doesn't kill because he knows that for him, there'd be no way back. The slippery slope argument completely applies to him because he's just as crazy as the villains he faces. The morality code is proof of that. It's his baseline, his way of keeping himself in check and not taking that last step into pure madness. A lot of people either don't recognize that or don't think he's just as insane as his villains, which just shows they don't know the character that well.
I mean, people use Tower of Babel as proof of his genius and how he 'can beat' anybody when the reality of that story is Bruce is really a cold person incapable of having any type of real relationship with most people. The Justice League viewed him as a friend, he viewed them as inevitable threats he would have to take down. That's not the type of person to praise.
It's KGBeast not KGB-Beast.
Like saying ATM Machine lol.
Justice League Doom is one of my favorite movies it's so realistic like I'm sorry all of you have powers that can nuke cities in seconds but I'm not taking that chance
So batman had pills that basically killed hin for at leasr a few days and woke up after his funeral with no brain damage or did Clark play along? Surely he'd be able to notice if his heart was still beating no matter how slow it was.
It’s jervis tetch not jarvis
so Bats doesn't kill the Joker after killing JT, but looses his mind over a side piece?
seems legit.
Gotham isnt the worst city on the country simply due to the existence of Bludhaven which is said to be even more crime riddled than Gotham
Superman is not from a Bygone age.
Superman is Almost immortal.
Him failing Damian ain't his fault and neither is Jason
I would put #8 as #1.
But he didn’t know he was batshit crazy till later
Mad hatter got to meet arkham batman
"If I didn't have a childhood, why he should have one?"
Man I hated that part of the vídeo. Because Batman always said that he wants Dick to be better than him and he wants Dick to not become him. Trust me that Bruce is self-aware that being Batman is horrible
Hmm yes lore of batman momentum 100
Failure always wins
Why was green lantern so prejudice against blind people? Most blind people have plenty of will to live their life, the ring works on will power. What exactly is stopping him?
Jason may not be number one to us but to batman himself Jason is his greatest failure so I get it
Living torch is marvel so they cant change Martian man hunters name to living torch