Ɲɛѵɛʀɱѳʀɛ I think the problem with society is that we try to mind our business too much. We see something questionable and convince ourselves that can't be that odd and I think that's what happens with this man.
Ɲɛѵɛʀɱѳʀɛ it’s no one’s fault except the parents. It is also not his fault he minded his business. I’d understand if you blamed him if he saw the kids getting beat & didn’t report it
Everybody in the comments loves to pretend like they would've done something. We all know you would've just shurged and thought "Huh, weird..." but that's it. You'd go on living your life saying it has nothing to do with you.
Also depends a bit on norms and culture. Liberalism do result in "mind ones own business". Countries with a welfare state system is prone to be more collective minded. Voting not just for whats good for only me, but for others for example. Also the education level is quite high and also universal with a common knowledge so no one would hesitate not to see marching kids for hours as a sign something is wrong. Both my opinion and what studies show.
They even hesitate to be closer to the mother. That is signs of fear. They keep a good distance of not too far but not touching skin distance. They must be suffering a lot at that time.
No way, seriously? So they will be out while their children are grown adults? I cannot imagine a judge who would allow this. Too lenient of a sentence, at least 50 years minimum would be acceptable and justifiable.
I think there should be a *LAW* that if children are homeschooled, then there should be people to check in to the house on the children's *mental & physical health* and to check if they're grades are good!
Grades aren't important so dont even compare them to the other stuff on the list. However them being homeschooled wasn't the red flag here, the red flag was that they only visited 2 places other than their home and the kids lickely had no friends and no social interaction other than inside their "padded" walls.
@@phoebewilson6739 I don't think you read it properly hunny, I know you are probably young so you don't understand yet. There definitely should be people to check on their well - bieng. *grades are inportant* I don't wanna argue with you because when you are older you'll understand.
ZuraKeiko that is just one type of homeschool. Parents however can be their child’s only educator, being completely in charge of their education. It’s really common, especially with abuse like this.(it’s widely known to be unregulated and untracked.) What you did was technically a credited school with actual teachers available to meet, they just allowed the conscience of working from home. I did the same thing 10-12th grade, except mine was all book based and not a computer program. So I had to go written time logs that my mom had to sign off on since I was a minor. But yeah, I had to mandatory meet my teacher at the LEAST twice a month. But just letting you know there’s multiple types of homeschooling.
I agree but they should also check on their mental state and NOT get distracted at what they are doing at their household because some parents seduce the worker and easily trick them...it has happened in my family...
How the HELL could the neighbors see the father (and I use that term very loosely) marching those Kids around for hours and NOT call the authorities??!!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese Probably for the same reason as this. The girl was murdered and over 30 people witnessed it but did nothing. As the person above said, it’s the bystander effect.
Completely self obsessed couple, the wife was obsessed with the husband and enjoyed being pregnant but once the child was born it became a nuisance. It was all about him. Disgusting, vile and disgusting. 🤬🤬🤬
Louise enjoyed the infancy stage of the child. She would send pictures to her sister of the baby with new clothes, fun things, etc. but never any of the other children. Once the kid grew up a little, she would treat them like the rest.
There should be a law if children are homeschooled state/ board of education shld come check in every few months to test the kids and make sure they are at their level of studies by age .. so sad !
That's what this is about. Attack home schoolers and treat them all like psychos for not going along with the system. Public school should be shut down. Same way they attack homeopathic doctors (85 of them murdered recently) and organic farmers.
Jonesy Wails so your saying pubic schools need to be shut down? This is about these poor kids but my point is the PUBLIC STATE FAMILY ppl that say NOW that they had concern and said it was very suspicious how they were/ lived. But never a call of reports.
That is the condition the world is in. Everyone is too busy working, surviving, watching trash TV, looking at their phone or eating cancer causing garbage to pay attention to, or get to know their neighbors. This is what public schools teach or indoctrinate your children with. Be like everyone else, destroy innocence, don't excel, don't think for yourself, get a job, pay your taxes. The movie "They Live" with Roddy Piper is a good example of what the government wants from you. YES, this is about the poor kids, but the government or state has the worse record of abuse when it comes to children.
13 kids. If they were not forced some of those kids would reluctant and not even laughing. All they did is like doing something on command. Like they have to laugh they have to be enthusiastic. I feel so bad for them.
When they’re at the Chapel, the flower girl almost stepped on the moms dress and you see the older girl pull her back. The entire row of girls moves after. Small things in their body language looks like they’re frightened.
Jamie Rose yes and in the 2013 video, did you notice the look on the girl in the middle when Elvis asked the girl on the right what her name was? It is the (three middle girls)on stage.
I took notice of that but I also looked at their arms which were so thin, the boys were covered better so you didnt notice it on them but the girls so tiny.
The Elvis impersonator probably had no clue but he was most likely the only one who made them smile and laugh and have a good time in their childhood! God bless those children! Why bring 13 or more kids into this world only to abuse them?! It just doesn’t make sense! It makes me so sick
dianne Dido California is really messed up with how they deal with the public because they’re so overrun with corruption in the streets that cases are pushed back every single day because there’s over 40 cases sometimes a judge needs to discuss daily
Kat Elena I’m a lawyer, I’ve worked with judges from California. Sorry if it hurts your feelings but the California courts are the most backed up than any other state
What is the mental illness called for this? It is difficult to believe this happens, but it does. My mother would get us to get outside all the time when I was a kid. We built tree houses, played in the rain and fished for mudbugs and played hide and seek with all the other neighbor kids. Kids need to play with other kids!!! Why do kids not play out doors today???? These people are sick to the core and their children will need therapy for the rest of their lives.
So 1 rare case makes all of us bad and we need checking? No thank you. I'll keep homeschooling my child without the noses of the government's interference.
Amber Smith ✔️ what did they do for work? N its crazy cause they were there kids. How do u have the balls do do this to ur children I will never understand
Lockheed-Martin has some occult backgrounds. The company is involved is MANY top-secret operations and provide above military grade equipment. He probably had a connection that employed him at Locheed in return for his kids services. I suspect he was grooming them to become slaves of some fashion. Either sex slaves, or as totally obedient weapons. For example he could have been grooming the kids to execute ANY order they were given, continually ramping up the objective over and over. If you can get a kid to be literally starving, yet leave food out that they won't touch.. even if they could.. then imagine what else they could be programmed to do. He was progressively brainwashing them, no doubt about it.
The neighbor who saw them marching after midnight failed those kids. He said “they’d be marching for hours” but he never did anything about it. So sad. They could have gotten help years earlier than they did.
Ok, he could’ve saved them but I would never say that he failed them. It’s not exactly his fault 😐, and that would be a horrible claim to say about him.
ARE YOU SERIOUS HE HAS FINGERS SHUT UP YOU MUST BE HIS WIFE AND HE WILL LIVE WITH THAT THE REST OF HIS LIFE BUT THE BEST PART IS THAT HE EVEN WENT ON TV LIKE HE WAS A HERO
OMG , that laughing during the vow-renewal ceremony just gave me chills. This is just so disturbing , I feel so many failed these kids. Who thinks seeing kids marching about through the middle of the night as therapy ? The school district never checked on them? Poor kids
Everybody in the comments loves to pretend like they would've done something. We all know you would've just shurged and thought "Huh, weird..." but that's it. You'd go on living your life telling yourself that it has nothing to do with you.
I'm not sure that, that is true actually? I certainly know that if I knew anything or had serious suspicions, then I'd investigate further! Then go too the authorities and explain to the police what I knew! More people have more moral courage than you think, and probably more than you! Perhaps you are judging people by your own standards? What you're suggesting is that you'd do nothing? You have no courage?
zeroxlulu ive called the police on things i felt was not right when everyone else said to leave it. Most of the time it turned out something WAS wrong. people need to speak up.
Absolutely a death sentence case. A parents only job is to love and protect their child. These monsters deserve to endure the misery they inflicted upon their children
At the Elvis Chapel, the girls had fake laughs, and probably fake smiles. And another sign; they took their kids everywhere with them, not letting them go my theirselves.
Why why are people so afraid to report things like this? I would try to save any child anytime if I seen something that was not normal. Thank God they are safe and well. God bless the 13 forever.
Its not that people are afraid....its that people are taught to mind their own business. I lived in Salt Lake City when Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped. I saw her (and many others did too) around town with her captors. Even when police stopped Elizabeth Smart with her captors at the public library...and asked her "Are you Elizabeth Smart?" She said "no" and police went on their way.
I would say because if the people reported are not held or put in jail or investigated now you in danger if you don’t know who you’re dealing with and they can easily find out who reported them…I would say that’s why
@@nerissialeach9045 THIS. You can make enemies very fast if nothing was wrong. Besides that, a lot of people have a fear of police and a lack of trust in the justice system. It’s terrifying to report something.
Do you not know it’s easier to act like you don’t know than get involved? People are also taught to mind their business, and not pay mind to what goes on in others’ houses.
Don't blame the neighbors, blame the boy who went to college, knew what was happening to his brothers and sisters and did nothing. His brave sister had to do what he could have done any time he wanted. I wonder how he is feeling, knowing he could have done something to help his siblings and did nothing.
Because either number one there probably isn't enough evidence against them or number 2 two people don't like snooping on other peoples business because in their minds it might just be something completely normal and most of the time you can't really tell the difference even though in hindsight it looks very easy
I cannot even begin to express my hate for these "parents", they should've been cut off from ever having children. There are so many beautiful couples who can't have babies and these monsters who did this torture and neglect of 13 people. Makes me see red My kids are fed multiple times a day, we go outside or the park, we put music on the TV and dance about to it and when it's special occasions birthdays/ Christmas/ Valentine's Day my beautiful children are given the biggest surprises that I've saved up for the year or bought them a month before hand and it arrives on the day of the celebration. I honestly can't understand any of this
The uncle of the kids said that the parents dreamed of their own reality show and wanted a lot of kids so it would be interesting for TV. That's why they moved to California too.
Gee, I'm guessing that wedding renewal thing was the one time of that year that those parents allowed their children to bathe for. The kids may have seemed happy but that's only because they probably didn't know any better.
Sounds like they were grooming the kids for classic trauma-based mind control. Probably to create totally obedient dissociative personalities to then sell to the highest bidder, or for the parents to use for their own nefarious means. How evil. They both deserve a taste of their own medicine, literally.
Andrew Hamilton they wanted a reality show so they probably was trying to control so they would be afraid of them and start their show. It's just sickening.
well, a lot of assumptions would have to be made for that to be true. Besides, the eldest was 29, way longer than needed for that type of conditioning. They were never going to let those kids go. At least that was their shortsighted goal. The father would have died from eating all that crisco in the pies and the kids would have fled their home and called authorities on the ones left behind.
64PINK256 gotta wonder what the long term plan was. The parents should be surprised they weren't caught sooner. It almost happened in Texas in 2010, and in California the "Sandcastle Day School" should have been getting annual fire inspections.
Wait a 20/20 reporter has more information (re: the neighbors seeing them running in circles for hours) than the investigator in charge of this case?!!!!!! Says a lot about the effectiveness of our police forces
ma rk I’d probably try and all the kids can overthrow the parents they can hide the knifes weapons etc and if they get like actually physically hurt like beat they can use those weapons
better yet run away, with all those brains put together they could think of a good plan to run away and hide somewhere. even an orphanage would be better than that prison like house.
@@iistelarxx6765 unfortunately, that’s not how abuse works. These children were raised to be meek, both in spirits and physically. Thank god for the bravery of the girl who got out.
"Mind your own business. don't get involved and walk the other way". This line, sometimes I get, but when something like this is happening and your seeing weird stuff like this, then call the police don't just sit there and watch.
As a person from California who has to deal with the courts a lot due to my parents, I can assure you that the court systems here are an absolute joke. It doesn’t surprise me at the least that the kids had to stay in that horrible place without anyone noticing for that long.
It’s hard to look for signs when you aren’t trained to look for them, and don’t know what to look for. Unless they act extremely abnormal most ppl wouldn’t think twice about their family unless they got a close enough look and understand more about their family and talk more to the kids.
About the journals, question is, did the parents read them, most likely yes. In many cults, some sort of leverage is taken or required. The fact they where allowed to have journals to express themselves could very well be used as just that, emotional leverage in some way. Break them down, get all their emotions out, leave them empty to fill them with your own stuff. Brain washing. He did part ways from their religious upbringing & from what we have heard made his own versions of how he interpreted the bible or scriptures, which is also yet a common thing for a religious cult leader to do, not to mention, getting other people to do their dirty work & by so put the "responsibility" on them. He was a family cult leader in the making, or rather that got stopped. 27 was the oldest right?! & over 20 years ago they have evidence of filth & marks on the doors from the oldest possibly being held captive... I really hope the kids can come out of this with some love & light in their lives. & I truly hope the parents rot in jail.
You know this nut case has reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on it until I just read your Captain comment!!!😂😂😂😂😂I'm turning 52 on May 2nd so I remember him!!!
The investigator seem like he doesn't know what he's doing or not taking this case seriously, "punishment that has gone out of wack" no it's abuse sir. The reporter knows more than him. 🤦🏽♀️
Typically, in an investigation, investigators cannot provide concise answers to questions that there isn't enough gathered evidence about because saying "yes" or "no" creates an assumption that could lead to too much incorrect speculation about a case. I agree with what you said about "punishment that has gone out of wack" though.... weird way to phrase it.
My heart is shattered....My 3 year old is me and his father...my boyfriend's, WORLD....I get that life is not perfect and the world is an UGLY place.....but these kids never felt how true a love between a mother and a GREAT father could be...instead the most comfort they ever knew was from strangers....My heart breaks for them...
If I saw that, I'd at least give an anonymous tip for a wellness check. I would never want a neighbor to know it was me though, who knows what kind of hell that could bring. I actually have called on my neighbor for a wellness check, because she was an elderly lady who seemed to be getting dementia telling me people were going to kill her. So, although I understand concern for minding your business and safety, there's typically the option of not giving your name.
Some mothers look so innocent and are truly evil. I suffer with memories that Catch up with me now from my mothers abuse. I pray to God these babies are saved and with all the good therapist we have today. They will heal and hopefully forget I am sure they will all be better loving parents someday I don't go through what they had to endure Strong kids are helping me get strong God bless you children in today's world
Cathy Knight don't you get it. Do your research! Read up on Walt Disney and Lockheed Martin for example. Look at the age of the children and compare it with the timeline and take a real good look at the photos. Ps check out the extra creepy pasty white adult arm in the photo with the kids wearing the red 'thing' shirts. Front middle. If you look above the arm you'll also see a random hand in the little girls hair. There are many other anomalies in that photo. There's more to this.
Jennifer Wainwright ok so I just checked out a really good quality image of the Thing 1 Thing 2 foto and I’m officially creeped tf out. Anyone have an explanation for it? It’s all good saying ‘do your research’ & ‘read up on Walt Disney’ but what precisely are we looking for? I mean, it’s kind of an enormous subject! Which timeline are we talking about? You got my brain going crazy so help me out a little please lol
Cathy Knight I don’t understand how they could be so malnourished but didn’t look malnourished in the photos of the wedding. They looked skinny, but for a 29 year old to have weighed 80-something pounds? How did they drop that much weight that fast without dying?
What neighbor sees kids marching late at night in a circle and not report it or do sh*t about it? The neighbors failed these poor kids and it makes me sick just thinking about it…
There should be some type of movie about this to at least raise awareness for the fact that if you have that many kids and every single one is homeschooled they should be checked on , not just for the fact of there education to make sure they are actually learning but to make sure they can feed 13 kids and look after them all . How they got away with it for so long I don’t actually know
How come the 17 year old managed to post a video on the internet then? So they had WiFi and didn't try and get help that way,strange. Sounds like an army camp.
He saw the kids marching in circles for hours but never reported it?
Ɲɛѵɛʀɱѳʀɛ I think the problem with society is that we try to mind our business too much. We see something questionable and convince ourselves that can't be that odd and I think that's what happens with this man.
Ɲɛѵɛʀɱѳʀɛ it’s no one’s fault except the parents. It is also not his fault he minded his business. I’d understand if you blamed him if he saw the kids getting beat & didn’t report it
Everybody in the comments loves to pretend like they would've done something. We all know you would've just shurged and thought "Huh, weird..." but that's it. You'd go on living your life saying it has nothing to do with you.
Also depends a bit on norms and culture. Liberalism do result in "mind ones own business". Countries with a welfare state system is prone to be more collective minded. Voting not just for whats good for only me, but for others for example. Also the education level is quite high and also universal with a common knowledge so no one would hesitate not to see marching kids for hours as a sign something is wrong. Both my opinion and what studies show.
Elle M Sorry not me Im a nosey bugger,Id have been out their asking them what the hell were they doing,and on the phone to social sevices asap.
PLEASE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL OUT THERE BEING HELD HOSTAGE .
nuff sed
Hate people like you
Everyday I pray that they're rescued and the captors exposed for their evil sinister deeds.
lol "out there"
So, your God let’s this happen, but if we ask him to set them free, he’ll set them free? Sounds like a right c**t!
Like that is gonna help...
So many people saw signs. *Anyone reading my comment:* If you see something, say something! Rather be safe than sorry!
flclub54 agreed
Ok ok dang🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Amen
Some.people seems don't care
Amen!
The first red flag was the dad’s haircut.
Indeed 😬
He took advice from Will from Stranger Things.
He looks like Lloyd from dumb and dumber with that haircut
Fantasy Animates! Lmfao facts!!! 😂🤣💀
I'm dead! 😂😂
It’s so scary to watch the clips of the family together
Jesus yes. Scary and disturbing. These parents look so evil and crazy..... Like a scene from some horror movie
You've walked by probably 100's of these wonderful types in your life and had no idea. As everyone has. Strange.
They even hesitate to be closer to the mother. That is signs of fear. They keep a good distance of not too far but not touching skin distance. They must be suffering a lot at that time.
The parents got only 25 years in prison. They held one of their daughters captive for 29 years.
No way, seriously? So they will be out while their children are grown adults? I cannot imagine a judge who would allow this. Too lenient of a sentence, at least 50 years minimum would be acceptable and justifiable.
@@Abby-rx4gx I agree
Frankly they won't live that long. It' s basically a life sentence.
25 to life, i think they did get life in prison
Theyre in there 50's
I wish abusive parents would never conceive.
then there would be no more indian kuda
Amen ( I wish I could say that about my mother) she don’t deserve any children
Or adopt. Sadly adoptive parents can also be abusive.
Right? There are lots of people who really want to have kids and can't have them and these monsters were able to and they did not deserve it.
I have narcissistic mother and I understand this 100%
I think there should be a *LAW* that if children are homeschooled, then there should be people to check in to the house on the children's *mental & physical health* and to check if they're grades are good!
Grades aren't important so dont even compare them to the other stuff on the list. However them being homeschooled wasn't the red flag here, the red flag was that they only visited 2 places other than their home and the kids lickely had no friends and no social interaction other than inside their "padded" walls.
@@phoebewilson6739 I don't think you read it properly hunny, I know you are probably young so you don't understand yet. There definitely should be people to check on their well - bieng. *grades are inportant* I don't wanna argue with you because when you are older you'll understand.
Hi ex homeschooler here. You still resister with a “school” who gives you funding usually and you meet with a person to show work you’ve done.
ZuraKeiko that is just one type of homeschool. Parents however can be their child’s only educator, being completely in charge of their education. It’s really common, especially with abuse like this.(it’s widely known to be unregulated and untracked.) What you did was technically a credited school with actual teachers available to meet, they just allowed the conscience of working from home. I did the same thing 10-12th grade, except mine was all book based and not a computer program. So I had to go written time logs that my mom had to sign off on since I was a minor. But yeah, I had to mandatory meet my teacher at the LEAST twice a month. But just letting you know there’s multiple types of homeschooling.
I agree but they should also check on their mental state and NOT get distracted at what they are doing at their household because some parents seduce the worker and easily trick them...it has happened in my family...
How the HELL could the neighbors see the father (and I use that term very loosely) marching those Kids around for hours and NOT call the authorities??!!
normalcy bias
I agree
The neighbors, mail or delivery people never heard screams and cries of agony from the cruelty and torture going on inside the house?
Jennifer Herrick right I agree 100% What was the neighbor thinking
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
Probably for the same reason as this. The girl was murdered and over 30 people witnessed it but did nothing. As the person above said, it’s the bystander effect.
Completely self obsessed couple, the wife was obsessed with the husband and enjoyed being pregnant but once the child was born it became a nuisance. It was all about him. Disgusting, vile and disgusting. 🤬🤬🤬
Cara Lama I wonder if her being pregnant was part of a sexual fetish.
Who likes being pregnant?
Louise enjoyed the infancy stage of the child. She would send pictures to her sister of the baby with new clothes, fun things, etc. but never any of the other children. Once the kid grew up a little, she would treat them like the rest.
@@lilamiaos plenty of women. I know my mother and aunts did. Their skin glowed and they didnt have any complications or nausea
@@lucarin8191 i've always been told that being pregnant feels horrible
There should be a law if children are homeschooled state/ board of education shld come check in every few months to test the kids and make sure they are at their level of studies by age .. so sad !
That's what this is about. Attack home schoolers and treat them all like psychos for not going along with the system. Public school should be shut down. Same way they attack homeopathic doctors (85 of them murdered recently) and organic farmers.
Jonesy Wails so your saying pubic schools need to be shut down? This is about these poor kids but my point is the PUBLIC STATE FAMILY ppl that say NOW that they had concern and said it was very suspicious how they were/ lived. But never a call of reports.
That is the condition the world is in. Everyone is too busy working, surviving, watching trash TV, looking at their phone or eating cancer causing garbage to pay attention to, or get to know their neighbors. This is what public schools teach or indoctrinate your children with. Be like everyone else, destroy innocence, don't excel, don't think for yourself, get a job, pay your taxes. The movie "They Live" with Roddy Piper is a good example of what the government wants from you. YES, this is about the poor kids, but the government or state has the worse record of abuse when it comes to children.
very astute!
Angel liz D right!
Even the laughs they make in the wedding video sound scared. They almost dance as if they’re scared. Poor kids
AbbieIs AKilljoy classic forced laughter.
AbbieIs AKilljoy facts they didn’t sound genuine at all
13 kids. If they were not forced some of those kids would reluctant and not even laughing. All they did is like doing something on command. Like they have to laugh they have to be enthusiastic. I feel so bad for them.
@@Gigi502. idk how elvis didn't know...he met them twice...
When they’re at the Chapel, the flower girl almost stepped on the moms dress and you see the older girl pull her back. The entire row of girls moves after. Small things in their body language looks like they’re frightened.
Jamie Rose yes and in the 2013 video, did you notice the look on the girl in the middle when Elvis asked the girl on the right what her name was? It is the (three middle girls)on stage.
I took notice of that but I also looked at their arms which were so thin, the boys were covered better so you didnt notice it on them but the girls so tiny.
nuff sed In the video that I saw, their faces are not blurred.
You see the tallest kids? Look like they’re 13, 14 maybe? THEY! ARE! TWENTY-NINE!
@@waves2378 are you serious 😮
The father should catch a whole other case for that hair!
Jennifer Herrick 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣👏
And catch these hands! Lol
😂😂😂😂omg you crack me up
Jennifer Herrick 😜😝😆😂😂🤣
The Elvis impersonator probably had no clue but he was most likely the only one who made them smile and laugh and have a good time in their childhood! God bless those children! Why bring 13 or more kids into this world only to abuse them?! It just doesn’t make sense! It makes me so sick
Ownership and a viewpoint that children are property apparently
I hope they (the parents) never see freedom or sunshine ever again. They need to be shipped to Alcatraz and left there for the rest of eternity!
Elle M No!! Alcatraz is a tourist destination! That would be a treat. They need to go to San Quentin or something!
The Rock has become a tourist attraction?
M1GarandMan3005 A National Park to be exact.
It was a reference to the 1996 Michael Bay film The Rock.
Elle M Alcatraz is closed, hmmmm..how 'bout Rikers Island?
Moved to California cause home schooling isn’t checked / monitored .
dianne Dido California is really messed up with how they deal with the public because they’re so overrun with corruption in the streets that cases are pushed back every single day because there’s over 40 cases sometimes a judge needs to discuss daily
Kyle Rainey no that’s is completely incorrect. i live in california, california is one of the safest states in the us
Kat Elena I’m a lawyer, I’ve worked with judges from California. Sorry if it hurts your feelings but the California courts are the most backed up than any other state
What is the mental illness called for this? It is difficult to believe this happens, but it does. My mother would get us to get outside all the time when I was a kid. We built tree houses, played in the rain and fished for mudbugs and played hide and seek with all the other neighbor kids. Kids need to play with other kids!!! Why do kids not play out doors today???? These people are sick to the core and their children will need therapy for the rest of their lives.
Beth Weaver - Not everyone has the luxury of playing outside in a safe neighborhood. Sometimes it’s just too dangerous.
This sounds like something I went through when I was a child. I'm glad cps rescued me. Thank you!
I'm happy that you got out of this situation
if you ever feel comfortable, I'd like to see you make a video about your story
i’m glad u got out of that! i hope ur doing well!!
what happened?
Definitely should be more guidelines for people that homeschool their children
Agree 👌🏽
Saine Torres i certainly agree too that
So 1 rare case makes all of us bad and we need checking? No thank you. I'll keep homeschooling my child without the noses of the government's interference.
Natalie Marion my mom homeschools is and we excel in work. But these idiot psycho parents are making homeschooling look bad
i’m home schooled 😎
I wonder what the parents did for work, big house, a couple of cars, trips to Disneyland and Vegas?....
Amber Smith they filed for bankruptcy and were between $200,000-$500,000 in debt
Amber Smith ✔️ what did they do for work? N its crazy cause they were there kids. How do u have the balls do do this to ur children I will never understand
Nasheeda Ellis The man or piece of shit rather was a engineer.
Lockheed-Martin has some occult backgrounds. The company is involved is MANY top-secret operations and provide above military grade equipment. He probably had a connection that employed him at Locheed in return for his kids services. I suspect he was grooming them to become slaves of some fashion. Either sex slaves, or as totally obedient weapons. For example he could have been grooming the kids to execute ANY order they were given, continually ramping up the objective over and over.
If you can get a kid to be literally starving, yet leave food out that they won't touch.. even if they could.. then imagine what else they could be programmed to do.
He was progressively brainwashing them, no doubt about it.
Served Satan.
I hope those kids each get a pie to themselves just imagine the joy this years Thanksgiving will bring them
WubzZ n DooDeeZ 1026 oh honey. Their OWN MOTHER tied and abused them. They are damaged beyond repair, no amount of pies will fix them
WubzZ n DooDeeZ 1026 thank you
Tama E.J. AMEN
Pies don’t fix abuse
Fleurs Sv - No, but the kids deserve anything good that happens to them, big or small. If it’s pies, so be it.
The neighbor who saw them marching after midnight failed those kids. He said “they’d be marching for hours” but he never did anything about it. So sad. They could have gotten help years earlier than they did.
Ok, he could’ve saved them but I would never say that he failed them. It’s not exactly his fault 😐, and that would be a horrible claim to say about him.
ARE YOU SERIOUS HE HAS FINGERS SHUT UP YOU MUST BE HIS WIFE AND HE WILL LIVE WITH THAT THE REST OF HIS LIFE BUT THE BEST PART IS THAT HE EVEN WENT ON TV LIKE HE WAS A HERO
You probably wouldn’t have did anything, stop! That doesn’t inherently scream abuse.
Guilty of not being nosey. Tand
OMG , that laughing during the vow-renewal ceremony just gave me chills. This is just so disturbing , I feel so many failed these kids. Who thinks seeing kids marching about through the middle of the night as therapy ? The school district never checked on them? Poor kids
That Elvis impersonator is creepy as hell too
Lucy 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
He married us a few years ago. Super nice guy and facility.
Lucy
Yeah, I thought someone playing Elvis would have to look or sound like him at least a little, lol
Yea he looks more like a Wayne Newton impersonator
He has a live video you can watch 24/7. Look up live Elvis wedding chapel.
How did they AFFORD Disney and Vegas!?? And matching clothes etc
Seriously.......it's mind boggling. And yet they live in filth? Makes no sense. None
They only cleaned them up when they went out ..
Star Anna because they never went inside disney only took pictures from the front thats what one of the kids told police
The father had a good job but just cause you got money dont mean you are a clean person..and just cause you poor dont mean you are dirty
Income tax Dependent credits from EACH kid
How did they afford such big houses? Trips to Disney but the father couldn't afford a proper haircut 😂
Everybody in the comments loves to pretend like they would've done something. We all know you would've just shurged and thought "Huh, weird..." but that's it. You'd go on living your life telling yourself that it has nothing to do with you.
Ikr
zeroxlulu that’s what I thought too
I'm not sure that, that is true actually? I certainly know that if I knew anything or had serious suspicions, then I'd investigate further!
Then go too the authorities and explain to the police what I knew!
More people have more moral courage than you think, and probably more than you! Perhaps you are judging people by your own standards? What you're suggesting is that you'd do nothing? You have no courage?
zeroxlulu people would start talking and someone or a group of people would talk with an officer for shore.
zeroxlulu ive called the police on things i felt was not right when everyone else said to leave it. Most of the time it turned out something WAS wrong. people need to speak up.
Heart breaking how you could go through all that 9months of pain in order to abuse them 😭😭
There are some people dying to have children and then there are such evil parents. That's so unfair. Smh
even though you cant see the kids faces because they were blurred out, you can tell by body language that their happiness was all an act
Imagine how disgusting the kids would feel only showering twice a year I shower twice almost every day omg
Especially if the girls got their period 😷
@@firstnamelastname1899 Maybe they didn’t because of the malnutrition
@@stephaniemc9948 yeah, good point. Can’t imagine how it’s affecting their health currently, they’ve probably got life-long issues now (i hope not)
Sadly…in some neighborhoods..the sense of community and responsibility is no longer present. Blessings and prayers to the surviving kids…❤️
During that wedding thing, you can see that children were being pretty hesitant with everything that was happening
The father's haircut tells it all
Obsessed with Disney? Strange...also, Louise dancing with her daughters was so awkward
Disney is a creep show. Read away from the mainstream to see proof.
Absolutely a death sentence case. A parents only job is to love and protect their child. These monsters deserve to endure the misery they inflicted upon their children
I hope they’re living their best lives now.
At the Elvis Chapel, the girls had fake laughs, and probably fake smiles. And another sign; they took their kids everywhere with them, not letting them go my theirselves.
Why why are people so afraid to report things like this? I would try to save any child anytime if I seen something that was not normal. Thank God they are safe and well. God bless the 13 forever.
Its not that people are afraid....its that people are taught to mind their own business. I lived in Salt Lake City when Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped. I saw her (and many others did too) around town with her captors. Even when police stopped Elizabeth Smart with her captors at the public library...and asked her "Are you Elizabeth Smart?" She said "no" and police went on their way.
I would say because if the people reported are not held or put in jail or investigated now you in danger if you don’t know who you’re dealing with and they can easily find out who reported them…I would say that’s why
@@nerissialeach9045 THIS. You can make enemies very fast if nothing was wrong. Besides that, a lot of people have a fear of police and a lack of trust in the justice system. It’s terrifying to report something.
Do you not know it’s easier to act like you don’t know than get involved? People are also taught to mind their business, and not pay mind to what goes on in others’ houses.
What amazes me is that so many people said they were “weird” & “off” but never investigated or at least called CPS.
Brenda Thornton makes me so mad
Don't blame the neighbors, blame the boy who went to college, knew what was happening to his brothers and sisters and did nothing. His brave sister had to do what he could have done any time he wanted. I wonder how he is feeling, knowing he could have done something to help his siblings and did nothing.
It’s so common.
Because either number one there probably isn't enough evidence against them or number 2 two people don't like snooping on other peoples business because in their minds it might just be something completely normal and most of the time you can't really tell the difference even though in hindsight it looks very easy
You can tell them horrible so called parents didn't go without food.Pure disgrace.Hope the kids can make a full recovery for a better future.💜
I cannot even begin to express my hate for these "parents", they should've been cut off from ever having children.
There are so many beautiful couples who can't have babies and these monsters who did this torture and neglect of 13 people. Makes me see red
My kids are fed multiple times a day, we go outside or the park, we put music on the TV and dance about to it and when it's special occasions birthdays/ Christmas/ Valentine's Day my beautiful children are given the biggest surprises that I've saved up for the year or bought them a month before hand and it arrives on the day of the celebration.
I honestly can't understand any of this
aaaww, it’s so sad to hear them fake a laugh as if they were scared not to☹️☹️🥺people are so cruel
The uncle of the kids said that the parents dreamed of their own reality show and wanted a lot of kids so it would be interesting for TV. That's why they moved to California too.
Jesus
Gee, I'm guessing that wedding renewal thing was the one time of that year that those parents allowed their children to bathe for. The kids may have seemed happy but that's only because they probably didn't know any better.
Sounds like they were grooming the kids for classic trauma-based mind control. Probably to create totally obedient dissociative personalities to then sell to the highest bidder, or for the parents to use for their own nefarious means. How evil. They both deserve a taste of their own medicine, literally.
Andrew Hamilton they wanted a reality show so they probably was trying to control so they would be afraid of them and start their show. It's just sickening.
jeommy kin yes another video I watched just revealed that they had All Kate plus 8 dvds
+Ksnooki Uhh, the news showed they had LOTS of other videos too. Just regular videos.
well, a lot of assumptions would have to be made for that to be true. Besides, the eldest was 29, way longer than needed for that type of conditioning. They were never going to let those kids go. At least that was their shortsighted goal. The father would have died from eating all that crisco in the pies and the kids would have fled their home and called authorities on the ones left behind.
64PINK256 gotta wonder what the long term plan was. The parents should be surprised they weren't caught sooner. It almost happened in Texas in 2010, and in California the "Sandcastle Day School" should have been getting annual fire inspections.
I feel so sorry for the kids. I hope parents get what they desivor in prison
deserve
Fucking bizzare
Wait a 20/20 reporter has more information (re: the neighbors seeing them running in circles for hours) than the investigator in charge of this case?!!!!!! Says a lot about the effectiveness of our police forces
HELL NO! As they say
All children deserve parents
But not all parents deserve children
Blessed all of their 13 hearts the girl one got free needs a medal
Where is one thst escaped?? How Old. Glad she Reported..tho probably hard do when brain washed etc
When the reporters have a lot more informations than the investigators on the specific case.. makes you really question the system..
I would never treat my dog better than my kids.
That’s why I’ll never have kids.
Lily Animates that might change lmao.
Or you can treat them both good
@@catcuz9850 exactly
i mean at least you’re honest
13 kids? if i were one of those kids id just start a rebellion
ma rk I’d probably try and all the kids can overthrow the parents they can hide the knifes weapons etc and if they get like actually physically hurt like beat they can use those weapons
better yet run away, with all those brains put together they could think of a good plan to run away and hide somewhere. even an orphanage would be better than that prison like house.
@@iistelarxx6765 unfortunately, that’s not how abuse works. These children were raised to be meek, both in spirits and physically. Thank god for the bravery of the girl who got out.
That’s not how abuse works. They were in a way brainwashed into staying. What that 17 year old girl did was very brave to do
this is the only time where you can be nosy and not be rude
Father should've been charged extra dif for that haircut
How come all those people saw weird things and said nothing??? Even if you just doubt, call the police.
"Mind your own business. don't get involved and walk the other way". This line, sometimes I get, but when something like this is happening and your seeing weird stuff like this, then call the police don't just sit there and watch.
“David Turpin, you have failed this family!”
*unleashes arrow*
Who wore it better ?
A) this guy
B)Dora
Press reply to choose :)
Dora
Sisterseaveyshook YT Dora
Lol
Lord Farquad or emit the LEGO guy
Dora
It’s amazing that no body reported anything to police. Sometimes you need to stick your nose into someone else’s business.
It makes me sick and cry for those blessed CHILDREN PRAY for the children
As a person from California who has to deal with the courts a lot due to my parents, I can assure you that the court systems here are an absolute joke. It doesn’t surprise me at the least that the kids had to stay in that horrible place without anyone noticing for that long.
It’s hard to look for signs when you aren’t trained to look for them, and don’t know what to look for. Unless they act extremely abnormal most ppl wouldn’t think twice about their family unless they got a close enough look and understand more about their family and talk more to the kids.
About the journals, question is, did the parents read them, most likely yes. In many cults, some sort of leverage is taken or required. The fact they where allowed to have journals to express themselves could very well be used as just that, emotional leverage in some way. Break them down, get all their emotions out, leave them empty to fill them with your own stuff. Brain washing. He did part ways from their religious upbringing & from what we have heard made his own versions of how he interpreted the bible or scriptures, which is also yet a common thing for a religious cult leader to do, not to mention, getting other people to do their dirty work & by so put the "responsibility" on them. He was a family cult leader in the making, or rather that got stopped. 27 was the oldest right?! & over 20 years ago they have evidence of filth & marks on the doors from the oldest possibly being held captive...
I really hope the kids can come out of this with some love & light in their lives. & I truly hope the parents rot in jail.
Everyone:takes shower every day
Turpin family:takes shower every year
Me: takes a shower every sunday
Everyone takes shower every day
Turpin family takes shower every year
I seriously can’t imagine being one of their neighbors
Fake laughs they were robots
I pray these children are in a safe place. And are getting love, counsuling and all the help they need. God bless them on there freedom.
Why wouldn’t he call authorities if he seen them marching for hours
That's what I was thinking too! I would've done that if I was him.
Captain Kangaroo called, he wants his hair bsck!!
Lisa Noelle Lol. Hilarious, You must be around my age to remember Captain kangaroo, I'm 50 years old.
OMG LOL!!! Accurate AF!! I completely forgot about captain kangaroo
Lol that's perfect
You know this nut case has reminded me of someone but I couldn't put my finger on it until I just read your Captain comment!!!😂😂😂😂😂I'm turning 52 on May 2nd so I remember him!!!
More like Lord Farquard
The investigator seem like he doesn't know what he's doing or not taking this case seriously, "punishment that has gone out of wack" no it's abuse sir. The reporter knows more than him. 🤦🏽♀️
Typically, in an investigation, investigators cannot provide concise answers to questions that there isn't enough gathered evidence about because saying "yes" or "no" creates an assumption that could lead to too much incorrect speculation about a case. I agree with what you said about "punishment that has gone out of wack" though.... weird way to phrase it.
WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?! This is just evil! I hope they never see the outside of bars ever again!
The only moderately decent part about this is how close of a bond these siblings must have with eachother
Look at the girls arms when they we holding them in air. That’s definitely malnutrition
My heart is shattered....My 3 year old is me and his father...my boyfriend's, WORLD....I get that life is not perfect and the world is an UGLY place.....but these kids never felt how true a love between a mother and a GREAT father could be...instead the most comfort they ever knew was from strangers....My heart breaks for them...
The mom and dad had to have some sickness or maby thay are just crazy people i feel so sad for the kids.
Psychopaths. They get off on domination and abuse.
Whatever this late Elvis says, the laughter of the kids sounds very forced, I'm not too sure they're having a good time
This community should be held accountable
The second they talked about the dogs I thought that they died or were eaten
If I saw that, I'd at least give an anonymous tip for a wellness check. I would never want a neighbor to know it was me though, who knows what kind of hell that could bring. I actually have called on my neighbor for a wellness check, because she was an elderly lady who seemed to be getting dementia telling me people were going to kill her. So, although I understand concern for minding your business and safety, there's typically the option of not giving your name.
Some mothers look so innocent and are truly evil. I suffer with memories that Catch up with me now from my mothers abuse. I pray to God these babies are saved and with all the good therapist we have today. They will heal and hopefully forget I am sure they will all be better loving parents someday I don't go through what they had to endure Strong kids are helping me get strong God bless you children in today's world
God bless those children... This should serve as a reminder to say something if you see something!
They took them to Disney then Back to the Torcher Chamber!
Cathy Knight just like Scientology! Strange isn’t it?
Cathy Knight don't you get it. Do your research! Read up on Walt Disney and Lockheed Martin for example. Look at the age of the children and compare it with the timeline and take a real good look at the photos.
Ps check out the extra creepy pasty white adult arm in the photo with the kids wearing the red 'thing' shirts. Front middle. If you look above the arm you'll also see a random hand in the little girls hair. There are many other anomalies in that photo. There's more to this.
Torture
Jennifer Wainwright ok so I just checked out a really good quality image of the Thing 1 Thing 2 foto and I’m officially creeped tf out. Anyone have an explanation for it? It’s all good saying ‘do your research’ & ‘read up on Walt Disney’ but what precisely are we looking for? I mean, it’s kind of an enormous subject! Which timeline are we talking about? You got my brain going crazy so help me out a little please lol
Cathy Knight I don’t understand how they could be so malnourished but didn’t look malnourished in the photos of the wedding. They looked skinny, but for a 29 year old to have weighed 80-something pounds? How did they drop that much weight that fast without dying?
Neighbours did nothing !!! Grrrr
What neighbor sees kids marching late at night in a circle and not report it or do sh*t about it? The neighbors failed these poor kids and it makes me sick just thinking about it…
You’d think parents who regularly took their kids to Disneyland & Las Vegas would be loving. So confusing & crazy
How did these ppl with terrible financial skills keep walking away from mortgages and then managing to afford new ones? HOW?
Why in the world didn’t the neighbor call police or CPS when he was seeing the kids march for hours in the middle of the night?? My god.
How could the neighbor see them marched around from midnight to 3 a.m. and not call police? Does that sound like normal parenting behavior?
There should be some type of movie about this to at least raise awareness for the fact that if you have that many kids and every single one is homeschooled they should be checked on , not just for the fact of there education to make sure they are actually learning but to make sure they can feed 13 kids and look after them all . How they got away with it for so long I don’t actually know
WAIT DID YOU CATCH THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED ONLY ONE SHOWER A YEAR IMAGINE 13 KIDS IN ONE HOUSE
disgusting and fucked
I live maybe 10 minutes away from the crime scene and this makes me so scared 😔😔😔
Who pushes out this many kids and then treats them like filth. I truly do not understand....
You could tell they're not getting enough food. I am here and my mom forcing my son to eat and these kids has nothing. Oh GoD 😭
why have kids then? to torture? to use as servants? disgusting
How come the 17 year old managed to post a video on the internet then? So they had WiFi and didn't try and get help that way,strange. Sounds like an army camp.
This whole interaction is really bizarre…pray for others out there that we have no idea this kinda stuff is happening to them! It’s sad!
So sad God bless these kids
??????????
That’s all I can say about this. And I talk a LOT.
completely speechless
The bowl haircut shows it all.