The problem with Tekken is that it's too permisive with mash. I look at my opponents commands ( and I'm raijin atm ) and most of the players just mash the hell out of their controllers. And it works. If you do that in many others fg, you'll just end up being facked by frames but in tekken it's working.
Look at my comment section and I can be sure ATFM most of them saying me to get good. The funny part? I switched games and they were garbage! Especially at GGST ok I was coached!
yeh thats my main problem with T8 Just pick a fast character and just... attack attack ATTACK! You about to land a hit... HAHA FORGET IT! TOO SLOW! RIP!
I quit Tekken after realizing I wanted way more mobility than what Tekken offers, Tekken isn't Tekken as it used to be In a game where I want a side step to work like Project Justice or Plasmasword, it's hard to play Tekken when Tekken doesn't even specify what tracks, hidden tracking moves Tekken is a mix up casino at point blank range, don't know the match up, too bad, get ready to play the casino, breath too slowly, too bad, there goes 80% of the health bar Doesn't feel fun to me to be walking on a tight rope while scissors are being thrown at me, I was so burnt out, and after taking a long break, I just don't even feel the slightest hint of nostalgia for the game now
If people are mashing then you should punish them everytime if your using the right move. Some moves can high crush and low crush but in that case you just have to adapt. If your at the low ranks then everybody will mash but if you do your research on offense then you should easily be able to stop them and when you get to the higher ranks, people will start playing more smartly. And this goes for any fighting game. I play guilty gear as well and even in celestial, I play against mashers but I usually beat them 9/10 because you can’t cheat frame data
Did you even saw the full Video? Especially from 6:46 onwards? Also what I left out (New Engine, New Mechanics and this Offensive based thing and played it for what 2/3 times). I swear I had different experiences with other Fighting Games! 3:53 is my explanation why I've dropped Tekken = Look at my channel and find: Is this the reason why I quit tekken? Video!
Early ranks are wild, just a barrage of arms and legs and it actually works lol. Instead of trying to match that energy though, you either gotta sit back, let them whiff and launch tf out of them. Or start slowing them down with jabs and mids etc. and make them actually start blocking, then you go run them over because if you are actually a better player than them but you struggle to defend against them, you can almost bet that they are going to struggle even harder trying to defend against you xd or something like that
How are you gonna complain about button mashers when you are in green/orange rank? Every rank below purple is newbie rank full of people either learning the game or button mashing for fun. I'm sorry, but if you are a good player, you have to adjust to the rank you are in
6:47 T7 has got the Korean backdash, which is nerved in T8. So it's more difficult to get away with stuff. T8 lays more focus on side stepping, armor moves and super specials plus juggle combos and Heat 🔥 PRESSURE now.
1. No shit sherlock 2. it's called nerfed 3. again no shit sherlock 4. It's called juggle 5. DID YOU EVEN WATCHED IT OR HEARED PROPERLY??? P.S. go play Revas Adventure!
If you try to play defensive youre asking to get rolled. T8 is so aggressive. Alot of times you get juggled into a combo and by the time you hit the ground you have like 1 hit left. I hate when I cant even get a chance to stand up after a massive air juggle. The heat mechanic make the combos much harder. Remember when Tekken had combos that required button combinations instead of directional keys presses. Almost Every single combo has down, forward, or directional down arrow inputs just to use combos.
okay I am just going to be that guy and tell you that you are just not good at the game and your opinions are somewhat right but for the completely wrong reasons. I really do NOT mean this as an insult, but that is the reason why you are losing to mashers and that is where your frustration with the game is rooted. Throughout that video, we don't see you KBD or WD or use anything advanced, while playing some of the most difficult characters(Akuma, Mishimas) and to top it all of you're not even green rank in the clips you show here. The only combo I see from you is at 7:45 where you follow up df2 with 3,1,4 > df1,2 > wgf, which is a start but could be a whole lot better. The reason you're having problems with mashers is because you literally do not know how to punish them and the proof is all over your video. Now, Tekken 8 does have problems imo like Heat Smash and Rage Art making neutral way too much of a guess, there is way too much superarmor imo, and defensiveness is starkly nerfed when compared to Tekken 7, where turtling and poking were much stronger. And guess what? People complained about Tekken 7 being too defensive and boring. So here we are.
Just reading these comments just shows the community of tekken. You have a complaint but noo it can’t be heard unless you are at a high rank and should get better. This community is stupid that’s why this tekken sucks too because they are catering them. I bought tekken to enjoy the game not to die to some 50/50 1 button combos.
If you don’t enjoy playing tekken 8 then stop. play street fighter. In tekken 8 there’s a lot more to work with on many levels, and it’s just more advanced rock paper scissors than street fighter 6. Street fighter is simpler so it makes sense that you performed better in a shorter amount of time.
To be fair alot if the time when people start off in fighting games they mash and tekken 8 got a lot of people who haven't played fighting games like that to play it.
Are you a green rank complaining about mashers? Also disrespecting frames is kinda part of the game? As a famous player ince said: you are never minus if you arent a b*tch^^. Also if you always respect frames you never get a turn against bryan dragunov or law
I may be a green rank (for 2 Characters) I've never seen a masher since GGST. Disrespecting +frames should not be a part of the game (Generally speaking)! Why am I a bitch when I'm playing a Character, that is forced to play T7 (DO NOT EVEN DARE TO SAY I HAVE TO SWITCH CHARACTERS BECAUSE LARS IS TRASH) and lastly Sidestep and Block punishing do you think
@@JoeNathan09 I am not saying you are a bitch it was just a fun quote from punk?I think also I never told you to switch characters and yes disrespecting plus frames is a thing which you at one point have to deal with if you want to play clean tekken thats fine but not everyone has that mindset nor is every character build equal in that regard if you never press on for example on dragunov when you are minus you will literally never have a turn against a halfway competent one. xiao is basically the queen of acting during minus, my take on sidestepping is is that it is very important not so much in low ranks as literally EVERYONE is mashing (though it helps getting you out of those ranks quicker if you know what to do). Backdash has taken kind of a backstep in t8 but its still very important (if you like movement based game try alisa she has the best movement in the game) my biggest advice to you get out of green asap(though even late reds tend to mash) and you will see the game open up in a different way
@@JoeNathan09 I havent called you anything its a quote that you can even get as t-shirt. And if he has -7 and mashes - and Hits you - he either got a hard read on you, he doesn't know the frames(which is pretty common in green) or you didnt use your frames right. Reading your opponent is part of the game too that includes reading on overspending frames. The amount of people I get with b1,2 or f4 on King after ff2 (rolling elbow) because they press or step is astounding and I am in the Gold ranks. Stepping is important as is backdash but all options have their time and place
@@JoeNathan09 the quote was from sonic fox btw... and why not sometimes you just have to guess some do it better then others others play fair and square just roll with it and rank up
tekken 8 is a game that really takes time to learn. tekken was already a hard game to get good at with all the game knowledge you need. tekken 8 takes everything that tekken had and turns things up to 11. it's a very stressful experience. I also started playing tekken with T7 and i had the same jarring experience when i first started playing online. i think playing this game online without being comfortable with the game's pace and mechanics is a recipe for disaster. you'll lose a bunch of matches not knowing what even happened only to ready up for another match. that's not the best way to get better at tekken. all fighting games are knowledge games, the more you know, the better off you'll be. something might look scary and impossible to defend, but when you take it to training mode, drill out the counterplay, you quickly realize it wasn't that scary. i do think they should have qm be infinate replays. you can't learn a matchup in 3 games, plus the ft2 set encourages winning over improvement. I don't have a problem with heat at all, and i think it adds an extra layer to the gameplay. my biggest issue is rage art. most of the ladder is carried by rage art because you can steal rounds away with a literal press of a button. it's one of those "get rewarded for getting your ass beat" mechanics that i despise. like people complain about "carrynov" when most players would be orange rank without rage art.
i get that you dont like the game and thats ok. your feelings are totally valid and even if you didnt like it for any reason thats fine. however, it seems like you are more annoyed at the playerbase at low ranks than anything. I assume that footage was yours and from what i saw, you were only teal ranked which is pretty much the absolute lowest you can be beccause you cant demote in teal ranks. people in those ranks dont respect frames and they button mash, youre right, but they are also leaving themselves wide open for you to punish them but it didnt seem like you were doing that. as for the movement, yeah the KBD was nerfed but standard backdashing was buffed and sidesteps were buffed. yes, i watched the entire video, it just seems like youre bad. you made the guy -2, he throws a 17 frame move. what do you do in that free time? you press forward. you need to expect this shit at the lower ranks. again, its totally fine that you simply dont like the game right now. hopefully you come back and you enjoy it, because its the only fighting game that i actually enjoy.
Just reading these comments just shows the community of tekken. You have a complaint but noo it can’t be heard unless you are at a high rank and should get better. This community is stupid that’s why this tekken sucks too because they are catering them. Am bought tekken to enjoy the game not to die to some 50/50 1 button combos.
Your concerns seem more social-related than game-related. Granted, both can be inter--related. But the vibe I'm getting from your video is 'online community'. If you've been on the internet for any amount of time, you should know by now that the internet is generally a bad place to expect positive social experiences. If you want positive social experiences, get it outside of gaming. And regarding your opponents alleged button mashing, how is it different from you spamming fireballs when using Ryu? Your defense is that your opponent doesn't know how to block, hence you take the result-oriented route of using fireballs again and again because it works. So in Tekken 8, your opponents 'mash' launchers because it works on you. The general rule is, people continue doing what works, until it doesn't. But if you hate Tekken 8, that's totally fine. But you'll be better off just saying that it's not your type of game.
This gen is completely different from is old heads. Its a thing of the times for easy passive and gimmick mechanics. And appeal to more passive gamers.
about playerbase, i do also hate button mashing but this is because how tekken has been since almost the beginnings, they are so many moves character has and there is so many character in the game so this gives pretty big advantage in lower ranks and some characters are more annoying in lower ranks because they only know to throw launchers, heat smash or rage art and it isn't fun to play against them and the moment you figure out their patten and shut them down they behave like child and throw tantrum or disconnect (which is so annoying ) but i would say medium to high ranks are pretty fun and enjoyable because you would find players that are using more then one brain cells when playing btw they wanted to make T8 more beginners friendly that's why there're heat, rage and things like that which makes noobs change the flow of the match.
I understand if you aren't fond of the game anymoree, I also think this rushdown super aggressive style, even to watch it is just cancerous and a chaotic mess. But at the same time those examples you gave were still just new players that don't know how to actually play the game and frame data so naturally they are just here to mash. Regardless I still agree with your argument about the game's mechanics limiting defensive options and overtuned aggression
@@Ryusei314 the thing is it is still a thing till the midranks according to my friends (one of them is a mishima Player and the other one is the second link in my pinned comment) and when my Goal is to reach the midrank and staying there, and watch the same gameplan over and over again... it's not fun! I've already raged against a Buttonmasher in GGST, because he had no plan what so ever! This is why I don't like button mashing!
Das Hauptproblem, das man bei Tekken 8 hat ist, dass wenn man das Spiel wirklich können will, also blocken, sidesteppen, punishes usw. , wird man gefühlt mehr bestraft als jeder andere Typ Spieler. Hab mich vor ner Woche easy going mit Jack in die Red ranks hochgemogelt aber bei den Charakteren die die Leute da nehmen sieht man zum Teil kein Land. Alle fahren die selbe Strategie: ein Low mid string, ein Powercrush, ein Heatsmash und eine Rageart und das traurige ist es reicht, weil die Leute so gut darin geworden die 4 Sachen miteinander zu kombinieren, dass die mehr nicht brauchen. Verlieren ist für mich nicht schlimm nur wenn man sich durchgend denkt, der kack ist doch reagierbar und man bekommt es nicht auf die Reihe. Auch schlimm finde ich, dass diese tools wie Heat und Rageart so effektiv und stark sind und dass diese Hölzfällerstrategien der Gegner so häufig funktionieren, dass mich selbst zu der Scheisse verleiten lässt und man langsam aber sicher zu einem griesgrämigen Troll mutiert. Und das zu vermeiden ist das schwerste, was man in Tekken lernen kann.
Ich sag dir das was mich am Spielen hält, ist dass ich ne Gruppe von Kollegen habe mit denen ich in nem privaten Raum meine Matches machen kann. Wir zocken seit ca. 2 Jahren und sind alle mehr oder weniger auf dem gleichen Stand. Keine gehässigkeit, man hat die Chance seine Stärken und Schwächen zu analysieren und kann Spass haben. Wenn ich nur Ranked zocken würde könnte man mich einweisen lassen.
Defense still wins in t8 but only to get your turn to go crazy. The higher level you go though, the game becomes more defensive again around mid blue. Most kishin dont mash, like half of raijin dont mash etc. Its still an aggro game though and picking a charbthat can deal quickly with top tiers is important bc no long sets to get comfortable in matchups
Wooow sind die Lidias Headless, das ist kein Eddy, Shit die hören auch mittendrin auf und lassen ihren Schaden liegen yo, but ich versteh dein Punkt, aber daaam die Lidias, arrrgh, die spielt man nicht so wild.
Bro I’m higher rank than u. Button mashing does not work in higher ranks. Adapting & knowing the moves/frames helps a lot. There is always an opening. U just need to hit the lab & see how to properly get by. Don’t mean that in an insulting way just realize it isn’t as hard to deal with mashers as u said.
No idea what you're talking about nerfed movement but in tekken 7, korean back dashing felt like being stuck in mud. I didn't notice anything different with KBD in tekken 8 but I do feel it is faster. Especially normal backdashing is much faster. Also that hwoarang clip where he got you even though you were +2 on heat, my guy you fucking MOVED towards him after you activated heat. It looked like you were trying to forward dash or something. This whole video is just strange and I cannot take it seriously if you're still in teal ranks in TEKKEN 7.
First of all watch my pinned comment Second KBD was nerfed to shit Third I think you're talking about 7:08 - 7:26. If this is the case then, first look at the Nametag and second even +2 on hit can be dangerous and third my opponent SHOULD know it by a mile!
@@JoeNathan09 I’ll watch the afterword video later today. Second what exactly did they nerf with the Korean back dash? Not sure what you want me to see with the nameplate. Yes the opponent spammed but guess what? both of you are of similar skill level which isn’t high 🤷🤷 he mashed and you literally moved forward or forward dashed after you used your heat move. You say he should know it’s not safe but he’s like green rank. Probably doesn’t even know which of his moves are plus or minus. You talk about spamming being apparent in this game but I’m seeing some impatient behaviors and bad habits from your gameplay. And mind you, I’m not at all good at the game either but I can differentiate someone who is low level and someone who is decent.
@@Azami0001 the guy is my Mate and we talked about frame advantages before and we talked about the pressing slow moves every Single time too. Also I'm and will always be the bad example from all of you, so you can understand the rules better than I am. Some better some worse example: My Rage Reaction
@@JoeNathan09 I’m sure you know that even with the rules of frame data, not everything is simple as it seems. Like for example you can literally **dick jab** people when they are about to use their heat smash.
4:12 if you guys want the video lmao 7:12 you moved forward leaving you open to an attack for who knows how many frames and then I think you tried to grab him while he was still ducking. There's your explanation on that. edit: maybe not ducking but still definitely in some sort of high crushing crouch state. edit 2: Lemme math it out for you. You're +2. Your opponent does 17 frame move. You move forward for 7 frames. Now your opponent has 10 frames left. You do a 12 frame grab, and you're getting hit. Moral of the story: learn to defend better. There's so much shit I wanna say but it'd just be a waste of time writing an essay for someone who just doesn't wanna learn from their mistakes on a game like this. I get it man. Mashing is broken, some characters are especially so carried that they can get really high up with just gimmicks and being braindead, and some people really just like 2d fighters more, because I love Tekken 8 but Street Fighter seems mid to me and I hate Guilty Gear. If you give this game another chance, just pick another character until you find one that matches your playstyle (or just stop playing if you miss akuma's projectiles that much lmao). Mishimas are WAY too hard to pick up right off the bat, and once you truly find your main, actually being able to whiff punish mashers is gonna be easy.
If you see his name tag, and you look my channel for a bit, then you know it's my mate (The Game Stage 5, also you can find his comment down below). He knows what plus frames are and I was like: ok on hit = it's not your turn!
If they mash then you just counter em lmao. Not everyone else play good or great, that's a reality we have to accept. It's a game where everyone can start. Turtling is boring. Taking risk is what makes exciting Tekken. Plus we like other to play the game don't be a grumpy gatekeeping *ss. 😂😂
I typed a much longer comment, but I must have accidentally pressed something that deleted it, so I am not going to type it again because fuck that. But your opinion is valid, regardless of skill level. I will summarize what I said before. I quit Tekken 8 after being an avid Tekken fan and getting heavily into 7, and there was still a lot of dumb shit in 7 that weighed the game down but not comparable to the stupidity level in 8 in my opinion. I put a good amount of time into the game, and even after they buffed my main (Kazuya, because his combos were inconsistent as fuck), the game still felt janky and not fun. Not even that my character felt shit at that point (Keisuke I think did pretty well with Kazuya in recent tournaments), but the playstyle of having basically two rage arts now among all the other shit in heat is just kind of awful. The plus frames are ludicrous, and unbreakable/homing grabs are not good for the game. The character balancing is really bad. The developers getting upset at people criticizing the game is also not a good look while they are pushing the Tekken shop which is many things copy/pasted from 7 and having a 20-dollar pass on a base 70-dollar game at launch (comes with no DLC characters). I also never found the story particularly that much better than 7 (although hating the journalist narrator in 7 is totally fair because fuck that guy), I just think a lot of people just had a really intense waifu fetish with Reina and that blinded many people. Even though Kazuya was my favorite character, him randomly beating the shit out of Jin in the beginning of the game considering he lost to him in literally every game made no sense. Jin also didn't really feel like the same character anymore in terms of storytelling and much more like a shonen protagonist and his Tekken Bloodline equivalent. Plus, everyone forgiving Jin for Tekken 6 like it was nothing and acting like Kazuya was the antichrist killing an equivalent amount of people felt dumb. Having more of the characters included in the story is a good thing, but ultimately you realize their involvement in the story is just another person telling Jin that he needs to stop Kazuya, so they ultimately feel pointless. How Reina obtained the devil gene was really stupid and contrived. Heihachi just being announced to have not died at the ending of 7 kind of makes the actually fun fight between him and Kazuya feel really pointless, and I honestly wonder if Heihachi was always planned or if they did it because the game is hemorrhaging more players than anticipated. I did want Heihachi as a DLC character (I enjoy Mishimas) but having him still alive is just kind of dumb and now feels like no major character ever has the chance of dying. The Ghost AI feature had the potential to be amazing, but I kind of expected this to fail as this was a lofty expectation, and I don't know if we are at the technology yet to do something like that where it feels like fighting another real player (if such a thing can be replicated). And everyone can say that Tekken 8 has a similar trajectory as 7 which isn't entirely untrue, but Tekken 8 should have done better than Tekken 7 considering Tekken 7 was created after TT2 (almost killed the franchise, keep in mind) and 8 was done while 7 was beginning to experience much more success.
It's true that people mash much more in tekken 8, it's true that tekken 8 is a noob friendly game thanks to the rage art tech and the heat mechanic and it's true that people keep mashing even in blue ranks, but this means that ranking should be easier now if you know what you are doing. So yeah, you have to spend like 50 or so hours on ranked with ppl that have no idea how to play the game and don't respect you, but all you need to do is learn a few frame traps or flowcharts that bait these spammers and just use them to rank up. Once you get to the point where you start getting beaten because your opponent is simply better than you, u start labbing and improving and actually enjoying the game. Plus, come on, you are low green ranks and you already complain about mashers. My man, people have no idea what they are doing till red ranks, maybe even purple, what do you expect them to do? Studying frames? Really?
Any fighting game's lower ranked player base will be mashers, its just more apparent in a set of Tekken where your mistakes are exemplified in the form of heat smashes and rage arts. I totally understand that this game is not for you, as it has taken some steps away from the traditional Tekken formula, especially with movement changes going from T7 to T8. But I assure you, this game is still Tekken at its core, if you ever get to discover what that is. If the gameplay was yours, then you are playing at pretty much the bottom of the barrel of Tekken 8's player base, where beginners learn what the game is. This is not a place where novices can begin to polish their skills and learn the game's ins and outs, its the equivalent of your younger cousin smashing every button on their controller in Special Style. Yes, it certainly is annoying to play against players who don't respect your plus frames, or don't play how a better play would play. But if you truly want to say you're getting better at this game you can't let the bottom feeders get to you. Especially as you are playing at the ranks where you're gonna expect players who are stone cold dumbasses. For example in the clip where you are +2 and eat the i17 move, I watched you move forward and do nothing, ofc you got blasted by your opponent's next input. When you begin to really understand the effect of frames in Tekken, you'll see that being +2 isn't that big of a deal. There's plenty of things you can do in frame disadvantage. Hope you get back to the game bro, don't let it discourage you. This game is really fucking hard. There's an unknowable amount of situations and game states which are affected by the equally important and innumerable matchups this game has. Please don't let it stop you from finding the diamond in the rough that is Tekken. :^)
Bro u need to learn the game and adapt. The game is more aggressive , that is true but your rank is way too low to complain about the game (you obviously lack fundamentals). sorry
Does this justify to throw a 17 Frame move while you are minus 2? If you get hit then you should know better! Just like I said in the Video: I began T8 and SF6 back in May and why did I got to Platinum? Because of luck? And in Addition: I played Tekken like 3 times and SF 20 Times, and I didn't lost my will to play SF!!!
@@JoeNathan09Instead of crying try to get good and climb the ranks. A skilled player never cry about mashers lmao. Masher just do certain things making em susceptible to counter. Because they're predictable. Lmao.
How about ICH SPIELE DAS SPIEL ZUM DRITTENMAL NACH EINER LANGEN PAUSE WÄHREND ES IMMER NOCH WIE NEULAND FÜHLT????????? Außerdem wenn ein Game neu für dich ist, musst du dich ja eingewöhnen! Manche länger, manche weniger! Heulen my ass!!!
I luv-hate T8 because of different reasons... it's the most offensive, aggressive Tekken ever. If ppl drop combos, mash buttons or are impatient or too defensive...just overrun them. LOL
Honestly bro just adapt. That's the best advice i have for you man. Mofos in Tekken have always Mashed if your patient you should cook them. Armor moves cook Mashers in this game.
@@linkueiavenger4065 since I am a guy, that plays way too much games other than Fighting games and when this issue is even at midranks then I don't want to Sound like Senator Steven Armstrong but I have to say: I don't have Time for this! Once I switch to another Fighting game: I win in almost every Single + Situation, while I still did NOT adapted the game!!!
um... no! I just don't like this ongoing "Chore" wich is mash your way up and this goes on till midrank (Wich was my goal), while having a massive break JUST LIKE THE OTHER GAME I PLAY!!! And I've made (Including private matches with midranks) just as much games as SF6 and GGST is a different story! I've lost 20% of my matches in SF6, while I lost only 2 games in Tekken (Public sessions) Sidenote: No, I'm not a Kazuya main and I'll never be!
@@smashrag9592 spaming fireballs is not a get out of jail Situation, because it's better to step something instead doing nothing. Also it's funny that you compared those two situations rather than thinking if your comment was smart or funny!
as a tekken 3 player tekken 8 is stupid as fuck... without graphics this game should have been dead... If this was released in 2000 it would die a slow death as the game is a rip off of street fighter like moves without the difficult input... you can use your rage art as a 12 frame punish... in street fighter you have harder inputs for harder moves... that makes it worth while... this game is very very bad for defensive player like me.... Too many stupid gimmicks in the game... tekken was good till tekken 6 or tag only... THis is not tekken.
@DaarShnik holy smokes you are exaggerating it a bit with the 2000 and the sf ripoff but yeah I agree with the last part except T6 and Tag... because I've never played it LOL
@@JoeNathan09 look I was a kid when tekken 3 was out in college when tekken 5 or 6 was out... So I have played classic tekken. Then I started again this year due to so much hype... and I realized this is not the tekken I knew... It's something stupid version of KOF and tekken, heat, chip damage, rage art, tornado, armoured moves, things are very very complicated now...tekken was a very defensive game back then.
@@JoeNathan09 arcade requires simple fundamentals, games like these don't do well in arcade when you make them so much complicated... Just understand the scenario in late 90s and early 2000s
@@JoeNathan09 Trust me when you pay per coin the game should be simple like KOF or Street Fighter. Tekken was different than bloody Roar and soulblade because it had more defensive options... and there was a way out for everything and that too was reachable... It goes down to skill not rock paper season
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Most of your concerns are valid. I just hate the heat mechanic with a burning passion. Its free damage, get out of jail, AND combos button.
I have nothing against it, but I hate how it's handled!
@@JoeNathan09i agree. It's okay, it's just that some characters benefit from it waaayy more than the others.
The problem with Tekken is that it's too permisive with mash. I look at my opponents commands ( and I'm raijin atm ) and most of the players just mash the hell out of their controllers. And it works. If you do that in many others fg, you'll just end up being facked by frames but in tekken it's working.
Look at my comment section and I can be sure ATFM most of them saying me to get good. The funny part? I switched games and they were garbage! Especially at GGST ok I was coached!
yeh thats my main problem with T8
Just pick a fast character and just... attack attack ATTACK!
You about to land a hit... HAHA FORGET IT! TOO SLOW! RIP!
I feel like this game is very close to being a masterpiece but it's held back by the nerfed backdash and forced 50/50s
I quit Tekken after realizing I wanted way more mobility than what Tekken offers, Tekken isn't Tekken as it used to be
In a game where I want a side step to work like Project Justice or Plasmasword, it's hard to play Tekken when Tekken doesn't even specify what tracks, hidden tracking moves
Tekken is a mix up casino at point blank range, don't know the match up, too bad, get ready to play the casino, breath too slowly, too bad, there goes 80% of the health bar
Doesn't feel fun to me to be walking on a tight rope while scissors are being thrown at me, I was so burnt out, and after taking a long break, I just don't even feel the slightest hint of nostalgia for the game now
You're right. Its a game where strategic gameplay is punished
If button mashing is giving you an issue then what you need to learn is frames. If you know your frames, button mashing will never bother you.
After actually going back to T7, T8 is leagues better lmfao
Exactly I feel like this is the biggest I told you so moment right next to BioShock infinite. All that Tekken 7 love was realistically honeymoon love.
If people are mashing then you should punish them everytime if your using the right move. Some moves can high crush and low crush but in that case you just have to adapt.
If your at the low ranks then everybody will mash but if you do your research on offense then you should easily be able to stop them and when you get to the higher ranks, people will start playing more smartly.
And this goes for any fighting game. I play guilty gear as well and even in celestial, I play against mashers but I usually beat them 9/10 because you can’t cheat frame data
Did you even saw the full Video? Especially from 6:46 onwards? Also what I left out (New Engine, New Mechanics and this Offensive based thing and played it for what 2/3 times). I swear I had different experiences with other Fighting Games! 3:53 is my explanation why I've dropped Tekken = Look at my channel and find: Is this the reason why I quit tekken? Video!
Early ranks are wild, just a barrage of arms and legs and it actually works lol. Instead of trying to match that energy though, you either gotta sit back, let them whiff and launch tf out of them.
Or start slowing them down with jabs and mids etc. and make them actually start blocking, then you go run them over because if you are actually a better player than them but you struggle to defend against them, you can almost bet that they are going to struggle even harder trying to defend against you xd
or something like that
How are you gonna complain about button mashers when you are in green/orange rank? Every rank below purple is newbie rank full of people either learning the game or button mashing for fun. I'm sorry, but if you are a good player, you have to adjust to the rank you are in
6:47 T7 has got the Korean backdash, which is nerved in T8. So it's more difficult to get away with stuff. T8 lays more focus on side stepping, armor moves and super specials plus juggle combos and Heat 🔥 PRESSURE now.
1. No shit sherlock
2. it's called nerfed
3. again no shit sherlock
4. It's called juggle
5. DID YOU EVEN WATCHED IT OR HEARED PROPERLY???
P.S. go play Revas Adventure!
If you try to play defensive youre asking to get rolled. T8 is so aggressive. Alot of times you get juggled into a combo and by the time you hit the ground you have like 1 hit left. I hate when I cant even get a chance to stand up after a massive air juggle. The heat mechanic make the combos much harder. Remember when Tekken had combos that required button combinations instead of directional keys presses. Almost Every single combo has down, forward, or directional down arrow inputs just to use combos.
okay I am just going to be that guy and tell you that you are just not good at the game and your opinions are somewhat right but for the completely wrong reasons.
I really do NOT mean this as an insult, but that is the reason why you are losing to mashers and that is where your frustration with the game is rooted.
Throughout that video, we don't see you KBD or WD or use anything advanced, while playing some of the most difficult characters(Akuma, Mishimas) and to top it all of you're not even green rank in the clips you show here. The only combo I see from you is at 7:45 where you follow up df2 with 3,1,4 > df1,2 > wgf, which is a start but could be a whole lot better. The reason you're having problems with mashers is because you literally do not know how to punish them and the proof is all over your video.
Now, Tekken 8 does have problems imo like Heat Smash and Rage Art making neutral way too much of a guess, there is way too much superarmor imo, and defensiveness is starkly nerfed when compared to Tekken 7, where turtling and poking were much stronger. And guess what? People complained about Tekken 7 being too defensive and boring. So here we are.
See my afterword Video ua-cam.com/video/paz_CYJm8LQ/v-deo.html
And I quote: I LOST ONLY 2 MATCHES!!!!!
Beside that thx for the Critisism!
the FGC will complain about games they play everyday XD
Just reading these comments just shows the community of tekken. You have a complaint but noo it can’t be heard unless you are at a high rank and should get better. This community is stupid that’s why this tekken sucks too because they are catering them. I bought tekken to enjoy the game not to die to some 50/50 1 button combos.
@@animallogic926 You've read my mind. Also another Video is work in Progress
@@JoeNathan09 will be sure to check it out and just ignore these stupid comments
@@animallogic926 be my guest....... after my Vacation xD... nah I'll be still away for 2 Weeks before I can work again!
Beautiful Thumbnail. Lidia is gorgeous.
If you don’t enjoy playing tekken 8 then stop. play street fighter. In tekken 8 there’s a lot more to work with on many levels, and it’s just more advanced rock paper scissors than street fighter 6. Street fighter is simpler so it makes sense that you performed better in a shorter amount of time.
To be fair alot if the time when people start off in fighting games they mash and tekken 8 got a lot of people who haven't played fighting games like that to play it.
@@lordxrz6588 my Problem is: This is an ongiong thing until midrank and the aftereffect is to force me to get to the high level and I don't want that!
Are you a green rank complaining about mashers? Also disrespecting frames is kinda part of the game? As a famous player ince said: you are never minus if you arent a b*tch^^. Also if you always respect frames you never get a turn against bryan dragunov or law
I may be a green rank (for 2 Characters) I've never seen a masher since GGST. Disrespecting +frames should not be a part of the game (Generally speaking)! Why am I a bitch when I'm playing a Character, that is forced to play T7 (DO NOT EVEN DARE TO SAY I HAVE TO SWITCH CHARACTERS BECAUSE LARS IS TRASH) and lastly Sidestep and Block punishing do you think
@@JoeNathan09 I am not saying you are a bitch it was just a fun quote from punk?I think also I never told you to switch characters and yes disrespecting plus frames is a thing which you at one point have to deal with if you want to play clean tekken thats fine but not everyone has that mindset nor is every character build equal in that regard if you never press on for example on dragunov when you are minus you will literally never have a turn against a halfway competent one. xiao is basically the queen of acting during minus, my take on sidestepping is is that it is very important not so much in low ranks as literally EVERYONE is mashing (though it helps getting you out of those ranks quicker if you know what to do). Backdash has taken kind of a backstep in t8 but its still very important (if you like movement based game try alisa she has the best movement in the game) my biggest advice to you get out of green asap(though even late reds tend to mash) and you will see the game open up in a different way
@@JoeNathan09 I havent called you anything its a quote that you can even get as t-shirt. And if he has -7 and mashes - and Hits you - he either got a hard read on you, he doesn't know the frames(which is pretty common in green) or you didnt use your frames right. Reading your opponent is part of the game too that includes reading on overspending frames. The amount of people I get with b1,2 or f4 on King after ff2 (rolling elbow) because they press or step is astounding and I am in the Gold ranks. Stepping is important as is backdash but all options have their time and place
@@Warsheep2k6 It's still stupid! Why? Once I switched games with my mates they played worse and worse. Why? They didn't respected the pressure!
@@JoeNathan09 the quote was from sonic fox btw... and why not sometimes you just have to guess some do it better then others others play fair and square
just roll with it and rank up
tekken 8 is a game that really takes time to learn. tekken was already a hard game to get good at with all the game knowledge you need. tekken 8 takes everything that tekken had and turns things up to 11. it's a very stressful experience. I also started playing tekken with T7 and i had the same jarring experience when i first started playing online. i think playing this game online without being comfortable with the game's pace and mechanics is a recipe for disaster. you'll lose a bunch of matches not knowing what even happened only to ready up for another match. that's not the best way to get better at tekken. all fighting games are knowledge games, the more you know, the better off you'll be. something might look scary and impossible to defend, but when you take it to training mode, drill out the counterplay, you quickly realize it wasn't that scary.
i do think they should have qm be infinate replays. you can't learn a matchup in 3 games, plus the ft2 set encourages winning over improvement.
I don't have a problem with heat at all, and i think it adds an extra layer to the gameplay. my biggest issue is rage art. most of the ladder is carried by rage art because you can steal rounds away with a literal press of a button. it's one of those "get rewarded for getting your ass beat" mechanics that i despise. like people complain about "carrynov" when most players would be orange rank without rage art.
i get that you dont like the game and thats ok. your feelings are totally valid and even if you didnt like it for any reason thats fine.
however, it seems like you are more annoyed at the playerbase at low ranks than anything. I assume that footage was yours and from what i saw, you were only teal ranked which is pretty much the absolute lowest you can be beccause you cant demote in teal ranks. people in those ranks dont respect frames and they button mash, youre right, but they are also leaving themselves wide open for you to punish them but it didnt seem like you were doing that.
as for the movement, yeah the KBD was nerfed but standard backdashing was buffed and sidesteps were buffed.
yes, i watched the entire video, it just seems like youre bad. you made the guy -2, he throws a 17 frame move. what do you do in that free time? you press forward. you need to expect this shit at the lower ranks.
again, its totally fine that you simply dont like the game right now. hopefully you come back and you enjoy it, because its the only fighting game that i actually enjoy.
Well finally a valid Critisism! But honestly even a plus 2 can be dangerous or I didn't listened to JDCR...
Just reading these comments just shows the community of tekken. You have a complaint but noo it can’t be heard unless you are at a high rank and should get better. This community is stupid that’s why this tekken sucks too because they are catering them. Am bought tekken to enjoy the game not to die to some 50/50 1 button combos.
Your concerns seem more social-related than game-related. Granted, both can be inter--related. But the vibe I'm getting from your video is 'online community'. If you've been on the internet for any amount of time, you should know by now that the internet is generally a bad place to expect positive social experiences. If you want positive social experiences, get it outside of gaming. And regarding your opponents alleged button mashing, how is it different from you spamming fireballs when using Ryu? Your defense is that your opponent doesn't know how to block, hence you take the result-oriented route of using fireballs again and again because it works. So in Tekken 8, your opponents 'mash' launchers because it works on you. The general rule is, people continue doing what works, until it doesn't.
But if you hate Tekken 8, that's totally fine. But you'll be better off just saying that it's not your type of game.
This gen is completely different from is old heads. Its a thing of the times for easy passive and gimmick mechanics. And appeal to more passive gamers.
about playerbase, i do also hate button mashing but this is because how tekken has been since almost the beginnings, they are so many moves character has and there is so many character in the game so this gives pretty big advantage in lower ranks
and some characters are more annoying in lower ranks because they only know to throw launchers, heat smash or rage art and it isn't fun to play against them and the moment you figure out their patten and shut them down they behave like child and throw tantrum or disconnect (which is so annoying )
but i would say medium to high ranks are pretty fun and enjoyable because you would find players that are using more then one brain cells when playing
btw they wanted to make T8 more beginners friendly that's why there're heat, rage and things like that which makes noobs change the flow of the match.
Yeah don't have to tell me that but thx!
I understand if you aren't fond of the game anymoree, I also think this rushdown super aggressive style, even to watch it is just cancerous and a chaotic mess. But at the same time those examples you gave were still just new players that don't know how to actually play the game and frame data so naturally they are just here to mash. Regardless I still agree with your argument about the game's mechanics limiting defensive options and overtuned aggression
@@Ryusei314 the thing is it is still a thing till the midranks according to my friends (one of them is a mishima Player and the other one is the second link in my pinned comment) and when my Goal is to reach the midrank and staying there, and watch the same gameplan over and over again... it's not fun! I've already raged against a Buttonmasher in GGST, because he had no plan what so ever! This is why I don't like button mashing!
I played a zafina yesterday and all she did was power crush and then power crush heat engager so i could barely get any offense
Das Hauptproblem, das man bei Tekken 8 hat ist, dass wenn man das Spiel wirklich können will, also blocken, sidesteppen, punishes usw. , wird man gefühlt mehr bestraft als jeder andere Typ Spieler. Hab mich vor ner Woche easy going mit Jack in die Red ranks hochgemogelt aber bei den Charakteren die die Leute da nehmen sieht man zum Teil kein Land. Alle fahren die selbe Strategie: ein Low mid string, ein Powercrush, ein Heatsmash und eine Rageart und das traurige ist es reicht, weil die Leute so gut darin geworden die 4 Sachen miteinander zu kombinieren, dass die mehr nicht brauchen. Verlieren ist für mich nicht schlimm nur wenn man sich durchgend denkt, der kack ist doch reagierbar und man bekommt es nicht auf die Reihe. Auch schlimm finde ich, dass diese tools wie Heat und Rageart so effektiv und stark sind und dass diese Hölzfällerstrategien der Gegner so häufig funktionieren, dass mich selbst zu der Scheisse verleiten lässt und man langsam aber sicher zu einem griesgrämigen Troll mutiert. Und das zu vermeiden ist das schwerste, was man in Tekken lernen kann.
@@henvisch ich Weine vor Freude wenn ich mal gute Kommentare bekomme
Ich sag dir das was mich am Spielen hält, ist dass ich ne Gruppe von Kollegen habe mit denen ich in nem privaten Raum meine Matches machen kann. Wir zocken seit ca. 2 Jahren und sind alle mehr oder weniger auf dem gleichen Stand. Keine gehässigkeit, man hat die Chance seine Stärken und Schwächen zu analysieren und kann Spass haben. Wenn ich nur Ranked zocken würde könnte man mich einweisen lassen.
Defense still wins in t8 but only to get your turn to go crazy. The higher level you go though, the game becomes more defensive again around mid blue. Most kishin dont mash, like half of raijin dont mash etc. Its still an aggro game though and picking a charbthat can deal quickly with top tiers is important bc no long sets to get comfortable in matchups
Wooow sind die Lidias Headless, das ist kein Eddy, Shit die hören auch mittendrin auf und lassen ihren Schaden liegen yo, but ich versteh dein Punkt, aber daaam die Lidias, arrrgh, die spielt man nicht so wild.
Bro I’m higher rank than u. Button mashing does not work in higher ranks. Adapting & knowing the moves/frames helps a lot. There is always an opening. U just need to hit the lab & see how to properly get by. Don’t mean that in an insulting way just realize it isn’t as hard to deal with mashers as u said.
@@unchartedrocks1 reminder there is an afterword video
Ppl are way too agressive, i just hit the tekken 8 wall today, i loved T7. But T8 is crazy, and the heat takes the fun out of the game.
i hate the new special style they added. i literally unknowingly used it for a few matches and it felt so weird
Some characters like Leo Kliesen have nice parries against button mashers. That's one of the reasons why I'm maining Leo in T8.
Parries aren't lifesavers!
@@JoeNathan09 Yeah, in this game it ain't easy at all. But useful if playing good enough though.
The game is noob friendly and it’s destroying its legacy unfortunately
No idea what you're talking about nerfed movement but in tekken 7, korean back dashing felt like being stuck in mud. I didn't notice anything different with KBD in tekken 8 but I do feel it is faster. Especially normal backdashing is much faster. Also that hwoarang clip where he got you even though you were +2 on heat, my guy you fucking MOVED towards him after you activated heat. It looked like you were trying to forward dash or something. This whole video is just strange and I cannot take it seriously if you're still in teal ranks in TEKKEN 7.
First of all watch my pinned comment
Second KBD was nerfed to shit
Third I think you're talking about 7:08 - 7:26. If this is the case then, first look at the Nametag and second even +2 on hit can be dangerous and third my opponent SHOULD know it by a mile!
@@JoeNathan09 I’ll watch the afterword video later today. Second what exactly did they nerf with the Korean back dash? Not sure what you want me to see with the nameplate. Yes the opponent spammed but guess what? both of you are of similar skill level which isn’t high 🤷🤷 he mashed and you literally moved forward or forward dashed after you used your heat move. You say he should know it’s not safe but he’s like green rank. Probably doesn’t even know which of his moves are plus or minus.
You talk about spamming being apparent in this game but I’m seeing some impatient behaviors and bad habits from your gameplay. And mind you, I’m not at all good at the game either but I can differentiate someone who is low level and someone who is decent.
@@Azami0001 the guy is my Mate and we talked about frame advantages before and we talked about the pressing slow moves every Single time too. Also I'm and will always be the bad example from all of you, so you can understand the rules better than I am. Some better some worse example: My Rage Reaction
@@JoeNathan09 I’m sure you know that even with the rules of frame data, not everything is simple as it seems. Like for example you can literally **dick jab** people when they are about to use their heat smash.
4:12 if you guys want the video lmao
7:12 you moved forward leaving you open to an attack for who knows how many frames and then I think you tried to grab him while he was still ducking. There's your explanation on that.
edit: maybe not ducking but still definitely in some sort of high crushing crouch state.
edit 2: Lemme math it out for you. You're +2. Your opponent does 17 frame move. You move forward for 7 frames. Now your opponent has 10 frames left. You do a 12 frame grab, and you're getting hit. Moral of the story: learn to defend better.
There's so much shit I wanna say but it'd just be a waste of time writing an essay for someone who just doesn't wanna learn from their mistakes on a game like this. I get it man. Mashing is broken, some characters are especially so carried that they can get really high up with just gimmicks and being braindead, and some people really just like 2d fighters more, because I love Tekken 8 but Street Fighter seems mid to me and I hate Guilty Gear. If you give this game another chance, just pick another character until you find one that matches your playstyle (or just stop playing if you miss akuma's projectiles that much lmao). Mishimas are WAY too hard to pick up right off the bat, and once you truly find your main, actually being able to whiff punish mashers is gonna be easy.
If you see his name tag, and you look my channel for a bit, then you know it's my mate (The Game Stage 5, also you can find his comment down below). He knows what plus frames are and I was like: ok on hit = it's not your turn!
@@JoeNathan09 oooh ok sry to him then. But still ngl complaining about the game and then showing low rank footage is deceiving as hell lmao
If they mash then you just counter em lmao. Not everyone else play good or great, that's a reality we have to accept. It's a game where everyone can start. Turtling is boring. Taking risk is what makes exciting Tekken.
Plus we like other to play the game don't be a grumpy gatekeeping *ss. 😂😂
Gatekeeping? I said: I don't enjoy it, because it's a chore until the uppermidranks! And go watch my afterword! (Pinned comment duh!)
I typed a much longer comment, but I must have accidentally pressed something that deleted it, so I am not going to type it again because fuck that. But your opinion is valid, regardless of skill level. I will summarize what I said before. I quit Tekken 8 after being an avid Tekken fan and getting heavily into 7, and there was still a lot of dumb shit in 7 that weighed the game down but not comparable to the stupidity level in 8 in my opinion. I put a good amount of time into the game, and even after they buffed my main (Kazuya, because his combos were inconsistent as fuck), the game still felt janky and not fun. Not even that my character felt shit at that point (Keisuke I think did pretty well with Kazuya in recent tournaments), but the playstyle of having basically two rage arts now among all the other shit in heat is just kind of awful. The plus frames are ludicrous, and unbreakable/homing grabs are not good for the game. The character balancing is really bad. The developers getting upset at people criticizing the game is also not a good look while they are pushing the Tekken shop which is many things copy/pasted from 7 and having a 20-dollar pass on a base 70-dollar game at launch (comes with no DLC characters). I also never found the story particularly that much better than 7 (although hating the journalist narrator in 7 is totally fair because fuck that guy), I just think a lot of people just had a really intense waifu fetish with Reina and that blinded many people. Even though Kazuya was my favorite character, him randomly beating the shit out of Jin in the beginning of the game considering he lost to him in literally every game made no sense. Jin also didn't really feel like the same character anymore in terms of storytelling and much more like a shonen protagonist and his Tekken Bloodline equivalent. Plus, everyone forgiving Jin for Tekken 6 like it was nothing and acting like Kazuya was the antichrist killing an equivalent amount of people felt dumb. Having more of the characters included in the story is a good thing, but ultimately you realize their involvement in the story is just another person telling Jin that he needs to stop Kazuya, so they ultimately feel pointless. How Reina obtained the devil gene was really stupid and contrived. Heihachi just being announced to have not died at the ending of 7 kind of makes the actually fun fight between him and Kazuya feel really pointless, and I honestly wonder if Heihachi was always planned or if they did it because the game is hemorrhaging more players than anticipated. I did want Heihachi as a DLC character (I enjoy Mishimas) but having him still alive is just kind of dumb and now feels like no major character ever has the chance of dying. The Ghost AI feature had the potential to be amazing, but I kind of expected this to fail as this was a lofty expectation, and I don't know if we are at the technology yet to do something like that where it feels like fighting another real player (if such a thing can be replicated). And everyone can say that Tekken 8 has a similar trajectory as 7 which isn't entirely untrue, but Tekken 8 should have done better than Tekken 7 considering Tekken 7 was created after TT2 (almost killed the franchise, keep in mind) and 8 was done while 7 was beginning to experience much more success.
It's true that people mash much more in tekken 8, it's true that tekken 8 is a noob friendly game thanks to the rage art tech and the heat mechanic and it's true that people keep mashing even in blue ranks, but this means that ranking should be easier now if you know what you are doing. So yeah, you have to spend like 50 or so hours on ranked with ppl that have no idea how to play the game and don't respect you, but all you need to do is learn a few frame traps or flowcharts that bait these spammers and just use them to rank up. Once you get to the point where you start getting beaten because your opponent is simply better than you, u start labbing and improving and actually enjoying the game. Plus, come on, you are low green ranks and you already complain about mashers. My man, people have no idea what they are doing till red ranks, maybe even purple, what do you expect them to do? Studying frames? Really?
Any fighting game's lower ranked player base will be mashers, its just more apparent in a set of Tekken where your mistakes are exemplified in the form of heat smashes and rage arts.
I totally understand that this game is not for you, as it has taken some steps away from the traditional Tekken formula, especially with movement changes going from T7 to T8. But I assure you, this game is still Tekken at its core, if you ever get to discover what that is.
If the gameplay was yours, then you are playing at pretty much the bottom of the barrel of Tekken 8's player base, where beginners learn what the game is. This is not a place where novices can begin to polish their skills and learn the game's ins and outs, its the equivalent of your younger cousin smashing every button on their controller in Special Style.
Yes, it certainly is annoying to play against players who don't respect your plus frames, or don't play how a better play would play. But if you truly want to say you're getting better at this game you can't let the bottom feeders get to you. Especially as you are playing at the ranks where you're gonna expect players who are stone cold dumbasses. For example in the clip where you are +2 and eat the i17 move, I watched you move forward and do nothing, ofc you got blasted by your opponent's next input. When you begin to really understand the effect of frames in Tekken, you'll see that being +2 isn't that big of a deal. There's plenty of things you can do in frame disadvantage.
Hope you get back to the game bro, don't let it discourage you. This game is really fucking hard. There's an unknowable amount of situations and game states which are affected by the equally important and innumerable matchups this game has. Please don't let it stop you from finding the diamond in the rough that is Tekken. :^)
@@StarFishPrimeXD look at my Pinned comment
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Bro u need to learn the game and adapt. The game is more aggressive , that is true but your rank is way too low to complain about the game (you obviously lack fundamentals). sorry
Does this justify to throw a 17 Frame move while you are minus 2? If you get hit then you should know better! Just like I said in the Video: I began T8 and SF6 back in May and why did I got to Platinum? Because of luck? And in Addition: I played Tekken like 3 times and SF 20 Times, and I didn't lost my will to play SF!!!
Yes it does, it depends upon which level of mind game you are on with your opponent!!!
@@JoeNathan09Instead of crying try to get good and climb the ranks. A skilled player never cry about mashers lmao. Masher just do certain things making em susceptible to counter. Because they're predictable. Lmao.
@@michaelnicholaslim9709 bro you didn't even understood the Video nor did you watch my afterword!
Just curious about who you guys play? The ones telling this guy that he isn't good, that is.
Tekken 8 on its worse day is still better than Tekken 7.
was für fehler junge?? hahah einfach geil
@@vgm_central ist so!
Get gud
@@goldengilbert2190 play Revas Adventure
Pretty much lol. Guy is the classic tekken complainer
Ach vermisse Tekken 7 wo wir noch Turniere gemeinsam gespielt haben …
Ich vermisse euch und diese Zeiten!
sir you hate people whi mash not tekken 8 every game has mashers
If this was the case, WHY would I don't hate Guilty Gear and Street Fighter?
@@JoeNathan09 idk you never criticized the game. You just said I hate people who mash buttons.
@@young8584 look at my Channel, why is it so hard to Research, so I have to NOTIFY them to do it JUST TO KNOW ITS TOO LATE
damn you really made a whole video about how you're a SF scrub who cant wrap his mind around tekken LMAO
your game is as easy as mk1 and you call other people scrubs lol
@@inksword6029 post your username lemme look up that wavu page! surely youre god of destruction if the game is so easy
"ich komm mit der engine nicht klar" du hast den input verkackt hör auf zu heulen
How about ICH SPIELE DAS SPIEL ZUM DRITTENMAL NACH EINER LANGEN PAUSE WÄHREND ES IMMER NOCH WIE NEULAND FÜHLT????????? Außerdem wenn ein Game neu für dich ist, musst du dich ja eingewöhnen! Manche länger, manche weniger! Heulen my ass!!!
@@JoeNathan09dann sag das und tue nicht so als ob es daran liegt das die Engine nicht zu deiner Präferenz ist was auch immer das heißen soll
@@tigberts9726 das sollte eigentlich klar sein aber ok!
I luv-hate T8 because of different reasons... it's the most offensive, aggressive Tekken ever. If ppl drop combos, mash buttons or are impatient or too defensive...just overrun them. LOL
first of all... good morning! Second pls mach es besser!
@@JoeNathan09 Ich meckere ja nicht.
Honestly bro just adapt. That's the best advice i have for you man. Mofos in Tekken have always Mashed if your patient you should cook them. Armor moves cook Mashers in this game.
@@linkueiavenger4065 since I am a guy, that plays way too much games other than Fighting games and when this issue is even at midranks then I don't want to Sound like Senator Steven Armstrong but I have to say: I don't have Time for this! Once I switch to another Fighting game: I win in almost every Single + Situation, while I still did NOT adapted the game!!!
so you are a weak tekken player but good overal fight game genra player and you decided to do video about you being butthurt cause you are low rank?
um... no! I just don't like this ongoing "Chore" wich is mash your way up and this goes on till midrank (Wich was my goal), while having a massive break JUST LIKE THE OTHER GAME I PLAY!!! And I've made (Including private matches with midranks) just as much games as SF6 and GGST is a different story! I've lost 20% of my matches in SF6, while I lost only 2 games in Tekken (Public sessions)
Sidenote: No, I'm not a Kazuya main and I'll never be!
For more context go watch my Afterword (Pinned Comment)
Plays akuma spams fireballs and complains about spam.
@@smashrag9592 spaming fireballs is not a get out of jail Situation, because it's better to step something instead doing nothing. Also it's funny that you compared those two situations rather than thinking if your comment was smart or funny!
scrub opinion
look at my pinned comment!
Heat mechanic is absolute cancer.
as a tekken 3 player tekken 8 is stupid as fuck... without graphics this game should have been dead... If this was released in 2000 it would die a slow death as the game is a rip off of street fighter like moves without the difficult input... you can use your rage art as a 12 frame punish... in street fighter you have harder inputs for harder moves... that makes it worth while...
this game is very very bad for defensive player like me.... Too many stupid gimmicks in the game... tekken was good till tekken 6 or tag only... THis is not tekken.
@DaarShnik holy smokes you are exaggerating it a bit with the 2000 and the sf ripoff but yeah I agree with the last part except T6 and Tag... because I've never played it LOL
@@JoeNathan09 look I was a kid when tekken 3 was out in college when tekken 5 or 6 was out... So I have played classic tekken. Then I started again this year due to so much hype... and I realized this is not the tekken I knew... It's something stupid version of KOF and tekken, heat, chip damage, rage art, tornado, armoured moves, things are very very complicated now...tekken was a very defensive game back then.
@@JoeNathan09 arcade requires simple fundamentals, games like these don't do well in arcade when you make them so much complicated... Just understand the scenario in late 90s and early 2000s
@@DaarShnik well I wasn't born back then xD
@@JoeNathan09 Trust me when you pay per coin the game should be simple like KOF or Street Fighter.
Tekken was different than bloody Roar and soulblade because it had more defensive options... and there was a way out for everything and that too was reachable... It goes down to skill not rock paper season
git gud