Canon filed a patent application for a global shutter a few years ago. I was actually surprised there wasn’t a global shutter in the R1. I guess the technology isn’t ready yet.
Great detailed discussion Vasko, enjoyed watching brother! I just got a new to me R5, knowing that the R5 II would soon be released. I shoot mainly landscapes and wildlife, a wedding or two, and a senior portrait session now and again. I'm pretty happy with my R5's performance so far. I highly doubt I'll be upgrading any time soon. What say you? 💜
The R5 is fantastic and to be honest it's more camera than most people need. The only reason i'm upgrading to the R5 Mark II is because of UA-cam. People want to see videos about the camera and I want to grow my channel, but to be honest if I wasn't on UA-cam I would have just bought a second R5 body and waited for the R5 Mark III in July 2028.
So for the resolution upscaling... I personally use Topaz Labs's Gigapixel which is amazing so i doubt I'll be using the in-camera version (but there's a big IF and that's if I'm out and about and need to upload a picture fast and don't have time to bring it home to edit). But for resolution upscaling where it would be useful is if you want to crop down an image and then upscale it because you lost so much of the image. So I can imagine I'm at a concert and I don't have enough reach with my lens. I upscale it, transfer it to my phone, and then crop down so that maybe Taylor Swift can fill the frame and then post to social media.
That makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people will do that. Ultimately it comes down to the quality of the upscale. Fingers crossed hopefully it looks good. Thanks for the comment.
Hi V! I’ve been using my new-to-me R5 for a while now. I’ve shot a wedding and the reception, and recently my first bridal shower (which was, in all honesty, quite boring). I knew the R5 Mk II was soon to be released before deciding to go ahead with purchasing the R5. I have no regrets. But I don’t rely on photography for income so I can’t really say if the Mk II would be better for the full time working photographer if they already have the R5. What say you? 👍🏼👍🏼💜👍🏼👍🏼
Hey appreciate the comment. As of right now I haven't had the R5 mk II for 24 hours yet. Initial impressions are good but i'll need more time to get to know the quirks of the camera before I can say anything with certainty. It's going to be hard to top the R5 because it's such a good camera. In a month i'll make a detailed video comparing the R5 and R5mkII and i'll have a solid answer for you :)
Hey long time no talk. Sticking to the mark I is probably a smart choice. If the new camera doesn't help you grow your business than to spend money on something you don't need only holds you back. The R5 mkI is still an amazing camera.
i dont agree with your opinion about cf/sd. its not about the money. i have the r5 and sd cards are very good and easy to manage. many laptops has internal sdreader so thats a plus.
That's a very valid point too. There is an ease of use factor to SD cards. I mean if you show up to a shoot and forgot your memory cards at home you can easily buy SD cards at just about any electronics shop. I appreciate the comment. It's great to hear different points of view. Thanks for being part of the channel.
I LOVE it my photos on SD my VIDEO or if NEED the buffer are cf express I CAN EASILY from SD no reader need load in my ZBOOK via the sd slot and start editing with SD.
IMO they should have done what Sony did. Sony has the option to use CF Express cards or SD cards in both slots. Therefore you are not depending on the sd card speed if you're using redundancy reading with the cf and sd card. No matter how you look at it, you will have a bottleneck issues with the sd card. Again just my opinion.
@@stevenjoseph9979 Totally 100% agree. That would have been the best thing but I bet there is some sort of patent thing stopping them from doing that or maybe two CF Express cards just cause too much heat? IDK just tossing ideas up. But would be nice to have the option.
@@stevenjoseph9979 but sony uses the awful type A cards which are hella expensive (twice as expensive) and half the speed of the Type B cards. not a good compromise
My R5 2 is amazing however to be a real hybrid it needs Shutter Angle. Clog 2 DR is 1 stop shy of the C70 however the trade off is the Buttery 8K video wow. Readout speed is faster than the R5 and faster than the C70. I am thinking it is a little shy over 6ms. The EVF is BIG but still cannot compare the EVF of my GFX 100 II in resolution. I have not tried IBIS. Autofocus is STICKY and these test were on my Sigma 85ef and Canon 35 1.4 L ef so the RF lenses will be even better. I want to use a vmount on my R5mk2 but I am not sure about the PD. This camera is a lowlight monster compared to the R5. The DJI Focus Pro works great with it too
You correctly said it several times . . . "sports and action" "sports and action" "sports and action." It seems Canon has hit a homerun for the sports and action photographer! But I'm not one of those. I love the eye-control AF, but I'm not sure getting that feature is worth the cost of an upgrade.
The price is the big issue for most. It's an expensive camera but at the same time if you run a photography business you can depreciate the camera over time and write off a portion of it as a business expense so it's not as expensive as it is on paper. But in the end you have to know what your cost of doing business is and get the right tool for the job. Everybody is different. I'm sure this camera will drop in price over time. So it might be a long term goal for your business. Hope that helped. Thanks for the comment.
Why would canon make a BG with ventilator if it wouldn't overheat. I guess in 8K 60 it will overheat after some time. I hope the animal-AF will work in the R5 MKII as this is what I miss in my R5C. I was hoping to get internal ND-Filters, but now I think this will come in a R5C MKII.
Internal ND filters was something I was hoping for too. The animal AF will probably be amazing in this camera. I found some more info about the camera after I made this video about overheating and record limits. 4k 120, and 8k leads to overeating. And I don't know this for sure yet but I heard that there is a 120minute record limit and the camera doesn't have a fully unlimited recording ability. I'll make a video testing it when I get the camera in my hands.
It's too early to say. Nobody has used an R5mkII with final production firmware so we really don't know what the camera is capable of or how bad the overheating will be or if it will be an issue at all. The R5mkII will ship around August 20th and that's when you'll see proper reviews of the camera. For now here is my review of the R5 in 2024 if you want to watch that. ua-cam.com/video/dH8xV8GHy9U/v-deo.htmlsi=bb8RknjVEtgVo5VN
@@SalsaBailaProductions Sony has a stiffer IBIS that is pretty shaky out of camera. You have to use Catalyst Brows to stabilize your footage in post which crops into your footage. Canon has a loose IBIS but you can use Digital Movie Enhanced to increate stabilization but again it crops into the frame. Right now Panasonic has the best IBIS in the industry. In Canon's defense the R5 was their first camera with IBIS. I'm sure their tech will improve with time.
From what I hear the dynamic range in the dark is great but only one way to find out for sure. Camera shop is expecting the camera to ship around August 20 so I guess that's when the reviews will hit UA-cam. :)
this is where the BSI comes into play. the specs also show it has 4 high ISO noise reduction options which is pretty great to do it in-body rather than in post. I'm curious what the base ISO options are on the camera. Canon didn't list it yet.
To be honest the R5 Mark I was and still is an amazing camera. If I wasn't doing UA-cam I would have never upgraded. But as someone who own the R and R5 there isn't much difference in image quality between the two cameras. It's really hard to spot the difference. The R5 has a better hit rate when shooting people with it's better AF but other than that I don't notice much difference between the two cameras for photos.
@@vaskoobscura_ the video capabilities from the EOS R to the R5 Mark I will be very much welcomed! I’m tired of dealing with the 4k crop, especially when switching back and forth between photo and video.
If the price of the R5 MkII scares you, consider the R6 MkII. It's better than the R in low light, higher frame rate, no crop in 4K, and the autofocus is better than the one in the R3. Just sayin'. 😁
100% agree with you. The 5 series cameras have always been priced at a pro level. It's hard to justify the expense unless you're making money with the camera. If I wasn't running a UA-cam channel I would have never bought the Mark II. Appreciate the comment. By the way what do you shoot with?
I fundamentally think there is almost NOTHING to nit pick. The R5ii is better in every single way. Its now the FASTEST high res stacked camera under $6000 as well... there is very little that could be more awesome. If your a video person sell the vplus and ge the vented grip -OH not an issue in general then. I have used the R5 since LITTERALLY day 1 it is still great but Canon DID address most things. THe flip screen SONY uses is likely patent issue. Come on man HOW can you knock this 45MP with AA so UNLIKE the a7r5 IT CAN BE USED for video ----you need OLPFS for video its not an IF its a REQUIREMENT
The Mark II looks like a great camera I don't know how you got the wrong impression. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video? Appreciate the comment thought. By the way what is OLPFS?
Firstly if you live in the USA you get the cheapest Canon prices in the Western world so don’t complain about the price! Secondly their is virtually nothing for the price point to complain or moan about regarding the specification it’s better in every way that the MK1.
A definite upgrade from the R5 and I did preorder early, but a little disappointed. It’s really not that fast compared to the Z8 sensor readout speed. It’s actually almost half. The viewfinder is bigger but all the other specs on the screen and viewfinder are relatively the same. Still no third party lenses for FF. APSc has a few that were released. Canon is doing just enough to keep their R5/6 users happy and possible Canon DSLR converts. Nothing new to make Sony/Nikon/l mount users to switch to Canon.
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 They should have just tripled the buffer of the R5 and slapped on a battery grip and called it an R1. Maybe added 1 taramite of internal storage for fast buffer clearing and they would have sold like hotcakes. I think people would have liked that a lot more than what was announced.
Sony is chuckling at the moment you know they’re gearing something up to make Canon look dumb! The only camera I regret selling was my A1. Variable shutter speed, 30 fps at 50mp more than enough. Years later it’s still game changing and I’m surprised Canon set themselves up for failure. Canon hasn’t really solved much or introduced anything new with this update it’s extremely disappointing. The EVF is improved and adapted from the R3. Recording codecs/ speeds and sized are likely just an original R5 firmware just held back. Screen is the exact same. Memory cards exactly the same again. Battery, the same! lol HDMI, is like Apple adding an SD card reader to their NEW laptops, lol. When you take a step back and really look at this “update” it’s lackluster at best. The original R5 was revolutionary, this mark II is just meh. Canon, what are you doing?
Alright there bud, I don't know how many memory cards you lost smoking your Phony dust but thanks for the comment. Maybe come back and leave a comment again when you sober up.
One thing no one is talking about: the 4k60p oversampled is only available in RAW, no other format. The most crippled camera of 2024? Wait for Sony's next... So you pay 4800€ and you can't shoot a basic 4k60p uncropped video without artifacts. Sounds amazing.
I never looked into that. I only shoot 4k24p. But to be honest all these reviews about the R5mkII right now are based on pre-production firmware. Nobody has made a video yet with final firmware so who knows what the camera will or wont have when it finally ships.
I've been shooting with Canon cameras and working as a professional photographer for 19 years. That more than qualifies me to talk about Canon cameras and analyze Canon camera specs. Thank you for the comment.
What do you think of the R5 Mark II now that it's been announced? Is it what you expected?
What we really want: the R5m2 in an R1 body with a global shutter. “All I want is the perfect camera.”
Canon filed a patent application for a global shutter a few years ago. I was actually surprised there wasn’t a global shutter in the R1. I guess the technology isn’t ready yet.
Everyone thinks a global shutter is a panacea but it comes with its own compromises which is why it’s not yet widely used.
Great detailed discussion Vasko, enjoyed watching brother! I just got a new to me R5, knowing that the R5 II would soon be released. I shoot mainly landscapes and wildlife, a wedding or two, and a senior portrait session now and again. I'm pretty happy with my R5's performance so far. I highly doubt I'll be upgrading any time soon. What say you? 💜
The R5 is fantastic and to be honest it's more camera than most people need. The only reason i'm upgrading to the R5 Mark II is because of UA-cam. People want to see videos about the camera and I want to grow my channel, but to be honest if I wasn't on UA-cam I would have just bought a second R5 body and waited for the R5 Mark III in July 2028.
@@vaskoobscura_ Haha, I like the way you think brother! 💜😂💜
@@TC_Conner Thanks man.
Best thing about the Mark 2 is the Mark 1 pricing ❤
8k60 for Disneyland rides and parades
hahahahahaha.
So for the resolution upscaling... I personally use Topaz Labs's Gigapixel which is amazing so i doubt I'll be using the in-camera version (but there's a big IF and that's if I'm out and about and need to upload a picture fast and don't have time to bring it home to edit). But for resolution upscaling where it would be useful is if you want to crop down an image and then upscale it because you lost so much of the image. So I can imagine I'm at a concert and I don't have enough reach with my lens. I upscale it, transfer it to my phone, and then crop down so that maybe Taylor Swift can fill the frame and then post to social media.
That makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people will do that. Ultimately it comes down to the quality of the upscale. Fingers crossed hopefully it looks good. Thanks for the comment.
Hi V! I’ve been using my new-to-me R5 for a while now. I’ve shot a wedding and the reception, and recently my first bridal shower (which was, in all honesty, quite boring). I knew the R5 Mk II was soon to be released before deciding to go ahead with purchasing the R5. I have no regrets. But I don’t rely on photography for income so I can’t really say if the Mk II would be better for the full time working photographer if they already have the R5. What say you? 👍🏼👍🏼💜👍🏼👍🏼
Hey appreciate the comment. As of right now I haven't had the R5 mk II for 24 hours yet. Initial impressions are good but i'll need more time to get to know the quirks of the camera before I can say anything with certainty. It's going to be hard to top the R5 because it's such a good camera. In a month i'll make a detailed video comparing the R5 and R5mkII and i'll have a solid answer for you :)
@@vaskoobscura_ I’ll be anxious to watch that great review! 💜😎💜
Sticking with my mark1
Hey long time no talk. Sticking to the mark I is probably a smart choice. If the new camera doesn't help you grow your business than to spend money on something you don't need only holds you back. The R5 mkI is still an amazing camera.
i dont agree with your opinion about cf/sd. its not about the money. i have the r5 and sd cards are very good and easy to manage. many laptops has internal sdreader so thats a plus.
That's a very valid point too. There is an ease of use factor to SD cards. I mean if you show up to a shoot and forgot your memory cards at home you can easily buy SD cards at just about any electronics shop. I appreciate the comment. It's great to hear different points of view. Thanks for being part of the channel.
I LOVE it my photos on SD my VIDEO or if NEED the buffer are cf express I CAN EASILY from SD no reader need load in my ZBOOK via the sd slot and start editing with SD.
IMO they should have done what Sony did. Sony has the option to use CF Express cards or SD cards in both slots. Therefore you are not depending on the sd card speed if you're using redundancy reading with the cf and sd card. No matter how you look at it, you will have a bottleneck issues with the sd card. Again just my opinion.
@@stevenjoseph9979 Totally 100% agree. That would have been the best thing but I bet there is some sort of patent thing stopping them from doing that or maybe two CF Express cards just cause too much heat? IDK just tossing ideas up. But would be nice to have the option.
@@stevenjoseph9979 but sony uses the awful type A cards which are hella expensive (twice as expensive) and half the speed of the Type B cards. not a good compromise
My R5 2 is amazing however to be a real hybrid it needs Shutter Angle. Clog 2 DR is 1 stop shy of the C70 however the trade off is the Buttery 8K video wow. Readout speed is faster than the R5 and faster than the C70. I am thinking it is a little shy over 6ms. The EVF is BIG but still cannot compare the EVF of my GFX 100 II in resolution. I have not tried IBIS. Autofocus is STICKY and these test were on my Sigma 85ef and Canon 35 1.4 L ef so the RF lenses will be even better.
I want to use a vmount on my R5mk2 but I am not sure about the PD. This camera is a lowlight monster compared to the R5. The DJI Focus Pro works great with it too
You correctly said it several times . . . "sports and action" "sports and action" "sports and action." It seems Canon has hit a homerun for the sports and action photographer! But I'm not one of those. I love the eye-control AF, but I'm not sure getting that feature is worth the cost of an upgrade.
The price is the big issue for most. It's an expensive camera but at the same time if you run a photography business you can depreciate the camera over time and write off a portion of it as a business expense so it's not as expensive as it is on paper. But in the end you have to know what your cost of doing business is and get the right tool for the job. Everybody is different. I'm sure this camera will drop in price over time. So it might be a long term goal for your business. Hope that helped. Thanks for the comment.
Why would canon make a BG with ventilator if it wouldn't overheat. I guess in 8K 60 it will overheat after some time. I hope the animal-AF will work in the R5 MKII as this is what I miss in my R5C. I was hoping to get internal ND-Filters, but now I think this will come in a R5C MKII.
Internal ND filters was something I was hoping for too. The animal AF will probably be amazing in this camera. I found some more info about the camera after I made this video about overheating and record limits. 4k 120, and 8k leads to overeating. And I don't know this for sure yet but I heard that there is a 120minute record limit and the camera doesn't have a fully unlimited recording ability. I'll make a video testing it when I get the camera in my hands.
Hello sir should i buy R5 over the R5 ii on 2024..?
Is R5 still worthy in 2024? Please reply????
It's too early to say. Nobody has used an R5mkII with final production firmware so we really don't know what the camera is capable of or how bad the overheating will be or if it will be an issue at all. The R5mkII will ship around August 20th and that's when you'll see proper reviews of the camera. For now here is my review of the R5 in 2024 if you want to watch that. ua-cam.com/video/dH8xV8GHy9U/v-deo.htmlsi=bb8RknjVEtgVo5VN
The wobble is a problem on the R6 mark ii
Thanks for the comment. Canon needs to address that with the next gen hardware.
@@vaskoobscura_ im curious on why other companies dont experience that… never heard about wobble in sony cams
@@SalsaBailaProductions Sony has a stiffer IBIS that is pretty shaky out of camera. You have to use Catalyst Brows to stabilize your footage in post which crops into your footage. Canon has a loose IBIS but you can use Digital Movie Enhanced to increate stabilization but again it crops into the frame. Right now Panasonic has the best IBIS in the industry. In Canon's defense the R5 was their first camera with IBIS. I'm sure their tech will improve with time.
@@vaskoobscura_ tx for the insights
I’m so curious to see the noise on clog in dark video. I really hope it competes with Sony so I don’t have such noisy footage 😀
From what I hear the dynamic range in the dark is great but only one way to find out for sure. Camera shop is expecting the camera to ship around August 20 so I guess that's when the reviews will hit UA-cam. :)
@@vaskoobscura_ that would be great!!
this is where the BSI comes into play. the specs also show it has 4 high ISO noise reduction options which is pretty great to do it in-body rather than in post. I'm curious what the base ISO options are on the camera. Canon didn't list it yet.
@@onlysublimethis would be huge. Let’s hope it competes. I do mainly events and right now the noise in low light is AWFUL
slurping the coffee and chewing the liquid is crazy dude!
Thanks for the comment.
Now expected for EOS R5iii coming with global shutter and more buffer memory, and better sensors and new chip and better especs.
Yup and it will be released in July 2028 because all the 5 series cameras are 4 years apart. Only 48 more months to go :)
R5c vs r5 markii???
Hard to say right now. The R5 mkII has only been announced but not released. Nobody knows what the capabilities of the camera are yet.
Panasonic is still the king for video
Ya Panasonic makes some awesome video cameras. I used to shoot with the G9. I was always amazed at the video quality.
It does overheat.
Yup
I have the EOS R, I have been holding out for a while 😅. The price tag (USD) scares my wallet! I leaning more towards the Mark I.
To be honest the R5 Mark I was and still is an amazing camera. If I wasn't doing UA-cam I would have never upgraded. But as someone who own the R and R5 there isn't much difference in image quality between the two cameras. It's really hard to spot the difference. The R5 has a better hit rate when shooting people with it's better AF but other than that I don't notice much difference between the two cameras for photos.
@@vaskoobscura_ the video capabilities from the EOS R to the R5 Mark I will be very much welcomed! I’m tired of dealing with the 4k crop, especially when switching back and forth between photo and video.
If the price of the R5 MkII scares you, consider the R6 MkII. It's better than the R in low light, higher frame rate, no crop in 4K, and the autofocus is better than the one in the R3. Just sayin'. 😁
@@Deiondrick Oh ya photo is one thing but for video hands down the R5 is a way better options or the R6II.
I love my Canon R. Only reason I want to upgrade to an R5 is to have my scroll wheel back. Joystick too. lol
says who?
Without a timecode or reference I have no idea what part of the video you're referring to. Please try to show more intelligent next time.
@@vaskoobscura_ You mate, the presenter, a UA-camr, talking specs with no demonstrated skill or talent.
For professionals, go for it. For me as a hobbyist, $4300 is too much for what I consider incremental upgrades. I'll pass.
100% agree with you. The 5 series cameras have always been priced at a pro level. It's hard to justify the expense unless you're making money with the camera. If I wasn't running a UA-cam channel I would have never bought the Mark II. Appreciate the comment. By the way what do you shoot with?
@@vaskoobscura_ The R5 M1. Great camera for my needs, but I've got more invested in L glass.
I fundamentally think there is almost NOTHING to nit pick. The R5ii is better in every single way. Its now the FASTEST high res stacked camera under $6000 as well... there is very little that could be more awesome. If your a video person sell the vplus and ge the vented grip -OH not an issue in general then. I have used the R5 since LITTERALLY day 1 it is still great but Canon DID address most things. THe flip screen SONY uses is likely patent issue. Come on man HOW can you knock this 45MP with AA so UNLIKE the a7r5 IT CAN BE USED for video ----you need OLPFS for video its not an IF its a REQUIREMENT
The Mark II looks like a great camera I don't know how you got the wrong impression. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video? Appreciate the comment thought. By the way what is OLPFS?
Except for the fact that 4K60 is line skipped and not downsample 6k. Ouch.
Firstly if you live in the USA you get the cheapest Canon prices in the Western world so don’t complain about the price!
Secondly their is virtually nothing for the price point to complain or moan about regarding the specification it’s better in every way that the MK1.
A definite upgrade from the R5 and I did preorder early, but a little disappointed. It’s really not that fast compared to the Z8 sensor readout speed. It’s actually almost half. The viewfinder is bigger but all the other specs on the screen and viewfinder are relatively the same. Still no third party lenses for FF. APSc has a few that were released. Canon is doing just enough to keep their R5/6 users happy and possible Canon DSLR converts. Nothing new to make Sony/Nikon/l mount users to switch to Canon.
Someone said the R1 is really the R3 MKII 😂
hahahahahahahaah. That was my first thought too. Seems more like an R3 Mark II than a flagship.
r5 is great r1 is the disappointment
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 They should have just tripled the buffer of the R5 and slapped on a battery grip and called it an R1. Maybe added 1 taramite of internal storage for fast buffer clearing and they would have sold like hotcakes. I think people would have liked that a lot more than what was announced.
Is canon R5 is still worthy in 2024..?
Lucky for you I made a video talking all about that here is the link. ua-cam.com/video/dH8xV8GHy9U/v-deo.htmlsi=TfRK607XUKLAoCXs
Sony is chuckling at the moment you know they’re gearing something up to make Canon look dumb! The only camera I regret selling was my A1.
Variable shutter speed, 30 fps at 50mp more than enough. Years later it’s still game changing and I’m surprised Canon set themselves up for failure.
Canon hasn’t really solved much or introduced anything new with this update it’s extremely disappointing.
The EVF is improved and adapted from the R3.
Recording codecs/ speeds and sized are likely just an original R5 firmware just held back.
Screen is the exact same.
Memory cards exactly the same again.
Battery, the same! lol
HDMI, is like Apple adding an SD card reader to their NEW laptops, lol.
When you take a step back and really look at this “update” it’s lackluster at best. The original R5 was revolutionary, this mark II is just meh. Canon, what are you doing?
Alright there bud, I don't know how many memory cards you lost smoking your Phony dust but thanks for the comment. Maybe come back and leave a comment again when you sober up.
Glamour mode 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol
One thing no one is talking about: the 4k60p oversampled is only available in RAW, no other format.
The most crippled camera of 2024? Wait for Sony's next...
So you pay 4800€ and you can't shoot a basic 4k60p uncropped video without artifacts. Sounds amazing.
4К60 only subsampling, is a shame
I never looked into that. I only shoot 4k24p. But to be honest all these reviews about the R5mkII right now are based on pre-production firmware. Nobody has made a video yet with final firmware so who knows what the camera will or wont have when it finally ships.
I'm sorry, but that's not an EOS R5 Mark II you're holding in your hands; it's a cup. Which makes you an expert at what? Reading spec sheets?
I've been shooting with Canon cameras and working as a professional photographer for 19 years. That more than qualifies me to talk about Canon cameras and analyze Canon camera specs. Thank you for the comment.
@@vaskoobscura_ Qualified at reading the English language.