I work for a Toyota dealership in SD and today we had our first training on the new 2024 Tacomas. I've learned more about the truck from your 25 min video than I did from an hour training by Toyota, now I'm ready to sell these as soon as we get them in, thanks Doug.
Doug says only about "8" people will buy it with a stick, but I know the take rate on these is about 30%. There is plenty of demand for the Taco with a manual, and not just the stripped down versions with the low end engines. People want these fully loaded with a manual. They're fun to drive.
@@joe6096 Yep, I've got my manual trans, and my heated leather seats and sunroof in my 3rd gen, a manual just feels right in a truck like this, and I get to have my nice features too. Toyota knows what the enthusiasts want. Now, if we could only just order exactly what we want, instead of hoping to find the perfect allocation, but that's another discussion....
This is a well thought out truck inside and out. I'm glad the front end doesn't have the same kind of ridiculous oversized grille that the Tundra has. Kudos for keeping buttons and knobs AND having a big screen, and for keeping the manual transmission alive. We're few and far between, but a lot of us love them and still want them.
It's crazy how small truck beds are getting these days. The OG Tacoma' s bed was soo much bigger and never forget the Tacoma's predecessor the Hilux with both a 6 1/2ft and 8 foot bed and yet is almost half the size of this thing. I miss REAL mintrucks.
because everyone buying them now are in the city. they have gone away form the cars and now pursue the trucks. problem is parking and maneuvering in the city is more complicated. why you end up with more compact trucks and shorter beds like the 5' beds.
@@outdoorsnevada4138 That would make sense but that truck is bigger then the old trucks that in talking about. This truck looks as big as old full size trucks like old F250's and stuff like that. If it was a size problem then bring stuff like the subi brat or dodge rampage aka car based trucks.
It is hard to say how popular it really is. They artificially cap it at around 5% (I've heard) of production and they sell out quickly/are hard to find. If they actually allowed custom orders and as many people as wanted to order them could, would be interesting to see how many would sell.
8 years into owning a Sienna, with those same A/C dials, and I still love them. Ingenious design; you touch them all the time and with this design you don't even have to look. Easy to find by touch, easy to use, and used all the time. A+ user experience
12:43 my 2021 manual Tacoma has this Clutch Start Cancel button too. It's so useful when you're standing outside the truck and want to turn it on. You don't have to awkwardly swing your leg in to push the clutch down to start the engine
Happy you got to drive the manual for the review! My dad has had 3 Tacomas for work trucks, all of them being manuals. His current, a 2018 a TRD Off-road has been an awesome truck. He'll be putting in an order for a new manual in a year or so once the current truck has about 200k on it. The 6MT was the only trans to buy with the 3rd gen Taco IMO, I had an automatic with a small lift and larger tires, it was terrible to drive. My dad's with the 6MT is much much better to drive. Seems like they did a great job with this rig. Hope the new 4 Runner comes out soon as well!
Not sure about other Toyotas, but manual Tacomas have had a clutch start cancel button for years. I liked it for warming my truck up on cold days because I could put it in neutral and start it without getting inside.
Cars used to let you start the car without pressing the clutch but at some point they decided they don't trust us to know how to drive a car. But it's good that Toyota at least allows you the choice.
My 3rd gen is a stick, honestly the clutch start cancel button is great for getting the truck warm without hopping into the truck. I use it all the time snowboarding. My boots are too big to fit in the truck and depress the clutch. So I park it in neutral and when I get back, tap clutch start cancel and turn the key to start warming and defrosting the truck while I change out of my boots and gear. 10/10 thought on Toyota.
Lol same on my second gen! I never use it for its intended purposes of driving on the starter. It's always pre heat or cool truck, but I still love it! Thanks Toyota
Same on 99' 4runner manual! Love the Clutch cancel button, specially since it's on the left of the steering wheel = easy access! I have a feeling they will sell more Manuals than last gen.
Most realistic? No what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
@@herewegoagain7403 That's because they're nearly impossible to get from dealers. I shopped around for a year before giving up. Nobody has the manual Tacoma, and if they do, it's marked up 10k.
I think you’re wrong about people getting this in manual, it is just about the only new truck truck you can get in a stick shift and that means that they own that entire part of the the new truck market.
@@purwantiallan5089 I don’t know, As long as I’ve been paying attention. My favorite was about him being the kind of guy who takes his pants all the way down at a public urinal.
4:55 The longer wheelbase is to push the front tires closer to the corner for better approach angle and make it ride a bit smoother. The cab is the same length as before. Passenger room is increased because the cab is taller thus you sit more upright which in turn gives you more leg room since your legs aren't straight out in front of you. Also, the button on the taillights is to open and close the tailgate, not sure why Doug focused so much on the closing part.
Correct, I saw a video from the head designer, and he said that has been the chief complaint for years, and they finally did something about it. That and the double hood prop locations is for the shorter people who struggle to lift the hood
turbo 4s are underrated. Just wait until the tunners get their hands on them and these things will be making 300 wheel with a simple flash tune. even more power with a down pipe and a stage 2 tune.
That stick shift is the *only* reason I’d trade in for one of these. Not to say anything against the rest of the truck, it looks awesome. But I already have an awesome truck, I just couldn’t get it with a clutch. Now I can trade for one. I guess I’m one of those “I need a manual in muh truck” guys.
Felt compeled to comment as one of the 9 owners of a stick shift Tacoma. Absolutly love it. Wouldn't trade it for an automatic in a million years. Best security system known to man.
HAHA! True statement! I have a feeling they will sell more than 9....as conservative as Toyota is, they probably sold enough 3gen's and anticipate better sales to justify keeping the Manual .
I really wanted to want a stick shift so I test drove one and I just thought it was awful. That first gear ratio is super low. I just felt like I was shifting all the time for in town driving. And it didn't seem like a fun shifter either it's pretty small and has short throws. I just found it annoying but anyway, I tried!
Yeah I think the manual is more common in trucks like this, than in a regular car. People still value the benefits of the manual (cheaper, simple, reliable, etc) especially in a truck. Manual was a must when I got my 3rd gen Tacoma and now my gladiator.
The wheel base was stretched to lower the fuel efficiency requirements in the US. The larger the area between the wheels, the lower the fuel efficient the requirements are. This is why cars are continually getting larger and larger in the United States.
Man I love that I can got all of that tech like the huge infotainment screen, digital dash, the digital rear view mirror, the multi cameras, cooled seats, diff lock, sway bar disconnect with a MANUAL transmission. Truck is too small for my needs but I’d buy it anyway because of that feature combo
This may have been already mentioned however the entire chassis/frame has been re-done which wasn't covered at all here. Several massive improvements there.
I love that Toyota is keeping the manual, a respectable amount of people including myself have the tacoma in manual and absolutely love it. Super fun to row through the gears in these little pickups.
Nah, what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
@@Yvaneify they’re supposed to be bringing a cheaper alternative to the market soon. But yea, I wouldn’t even consider the next gen Tacoma, let alone the 3rd Gen until they’ve all significantly dropped in price.
Doug doesn't know Tacoma buyers. The manual Tacoma is offered because buyers demand it. Unfortunately Toyota artificially limits manual production so the manual will be rare, but not for lack of demand.
This was an exceptionally detailed video - the best one I have seen thus far. However, there are plenty of us that prefer three pedals. It was a deciding factor in choosing the Tacoma for me - which trucks come in manual - tacoma and gladiator.
Same goes for me. I genuinely would've considered a Colorado given the current price point for the new Tacoma but the manual was a HARD sell for me. Can't imagine the resell value will ever deplete with the manual either, given I'd be real surprised if they revive it again for another year in 2025.
The no clutch feature is a vital part of safe extreme off roading. If you fail a steep ascent and need to safely go down and try again the technique is to turn off the engine, select reverse, put both feet off the pedals, turn your head to look backwards, and then start the engine. In low range of course. The truck will then safely slowly go back under power with max engine braking. It's fun.
Nice review Doug but there's more than 9 of us manual stalwarts out there buying these transmissions! Good to hear the midrange power isn't hurt by turbo lag which is great for cruising around town or getting on the highway but I'm more concerned with power at low RPM where the outgoing V6 was solid.
I agree! I am looking to buy one. My first truck. For a long time, I have needed one with home projects, and towing a car to the racetrack but I didn’t want to give up a manual daily driver. I can’t afford to have a million cars either. This seems to perfectly fit my needs. I hope Toyota lets me buy one!
Looks like USB c in the bed. How do you start an engine while in gear? My t100 had the same feature where I could start engine without pressing clutch... But I needed to be in neutral I assume.
I have a 2017 Toyota Tacoma with a manual transmission. The "clutch start cancel" button that you reviewed is very useful anytime you simply want to start your vehicle without having to a) hope into the vehicle and b) depressing the clutch. If you press that button you can then be standing with your feet firmly on the ground and then start the ignition. The only thing, and this is a big one, is that you DON'T want the truck to be in gear as you start it as it will lurch forward (or backward if you have it in reverse) which can be mucho dangerous.
Toyota missed the opportunity to make the gauge cluster screen configurable to look like the 1987 Toyota Pickup Turbo gauge cluster similar to the S650 Foxbody gauge cluster
Doug: filming outside adds such a depth to your videos compared to those shot in the new Cars and Bids space. I know you are a person of places; you appreciate your local surroundings and that was always evident in your videos. One could play a mini game of GeoGuessr based on the context of your filming locations. It was really nice to see this one filmed outside. I’m sure it’s much much more convenient to shoot at your new studio, but there’s just something different about hearing those birds chirp in the background.
This video really hits home for me because it was filmed in Thousand Oaks, not far from where I live. I recognize the street he's driving on (Westlake Boulevard), he was heading northbound on it. Know that area really well, cool to see him do a test drive around there.
A little disappointing he didn't touch on the suspension or brakes. I believe they have been updated as well. Good they still offer the manual, some off roaders prefer it.
I had a late '80s Toyota pickup that had that "clutch start cancel" that was handy in the dead of winter at 40 below when the clutch pedal was stiff as nails.
There’s a few reasons why Toyota was smart for keeping stick in this truck one is because of the backlash that they gotten when they offered the automatic only Toyota supra. The other reason is even though it’s not directly comparable with the bronco and jeep wrangler it’s been the choice of many off-roaders For years and they are both offered with manual transmissions. Also, the manual transmission will definitely pull a premium in the used market in five years.
Why, yes, Supra buyers are definitely the exact same people as Tacoma buyers. Laughable! They likely did a market analysis and decided that a certain segment of buyers really want a MT and won't buy a truck with an AT.
@@ChopperChadhave you ever four-wheeled in an automatic versus a manual transmission? There's no comparison. The manual offers 100% more control over the vehicle than an automatic does. I would never own a four-wheel drive vehicle in an automatic.
I’m love the clutch disable in my 1991 Toyota Pickup. I use it everyday in the winter to pop the door open and start it up so I can get back inside as quick as possible. Lol
With my 22' PRO, I use the clutch start cancel button a lot to start my car up in the morning. Dont have to hop in to start. But thats because old gen manuals had a physical key, no need to tap the breaks with push to start
Glad Toyota is keeping the Manual as an option. Toyota clutches are bomb proof. My 81 Supra had 385K on it when I parked it permanently way back in the wayback.. My '04 Taco TRD was retired at 502K this past summer and replaced with a '14 with 220 on it. I expect it'll outlive me. ;)
2015 manual tacoma owner and older truck apologist here - lots of fantastic interior upgrades that have made me reconsider whether or not I like this truck. So much extra storage to utilize. BUT, what were they thinking with that 4wd selector? I already hate that my truck has a switch and not a manual transfer case, but at least mine is easy to use.
The clutch cancel button also works in another way. They have had them in 1st gen pickups and 4Runners. Maybe second gen as well. If you go through some water or a river and your engine dies you can use that button and the power of the battery to slowly crawl you hopefully out of the river but doesn’t last as long as you’d hope but maybe that depends on your battery.
For whoever doubts about small turbo/hybrid engine’s power, you should try one, they are very torquey and responsive, the turbo is very small and fast spool, the electric torque is instantaneous,especially at altitude, at high altitude a turbo hybrid 4 will have more torque than ANY naturally aspirated V8
It ain't the power. Turbos aren't new technology, they'll give you more power. There's no way a turbo engine can live up to the durability of an NA one, all else being equal. That's the whole thing about Tacos and their reputation too.
Yeah, but a hybrid electric based on a turbo 4 cylinder introduces so many points of failure that simply wouldn't be there on a tried and true V6 (they wouldn't put a V8 in the Tacoma). Turbo 4s can indeed make impressive torque figures, and obviously EV motors are pure torque monsters, but it's going to be a lot more delicate and prone to being crippled by diagnostic faults. Also, not sure how the DIY mod scene will like this ultra-high-tech hybrid. It will likely be hard as hell to do anything with the hybrid version of this truck.
@@megachonk9440 well, hybrid power train is not easy to fix in your garage but they actually have less moving parts, pretty much all hybrid got rid off belts, alternators, water pump, ac compressor (those are all electrified and last the lifetime) and some hybrid don’t even have transmission, and the Tacoma hybrid is not really a true hybrid, it’s just a regular old truck with a electric motor sandwich in between, it can’t drive on electric, just a power adder, but it got rid of all the accessories
@@evanleo7633 just because those parts are electric doesn't mean they last forever. BMW's N54 experimented with electric water pumps back in 2007-2013. On average, the pumps only lasted ~60k miles. They went back to a mechanical belt driven water pump for their next engine after that failed experiment...
@@nsaad3048 exactly. That’s the reason I just bought a 2023 TRD off road 4x4 instead of waiting for the 2024. Outside of the fact I would never buy the first year of a remodel/new model, I didn’t want to deal with the extra hassle of not only the turbo shortening the engines lifespan, but also having to replace/fix the turbo when that breaks.
Doug: Nobody's going to get this with a manual transmission. Me: Already did 🤣 My friend is a manager at the Toyota dealership here and I'm getting the first one they get to replace my 2012 with 518k trouble free miles 👍
Toyota is seeing sales of manual Tacoma of at least 15-20%, or else they wouldn't have gone through the expense of certifying the truck for different EPA tests, crash tests and emissions tests, plus different tunes for the engine, with different power ratings for the engine. To bring a manual to the market, there has be decent demand for it, to make it work Toyota's while, and the Taco has it.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Toyota limits production of the manual and doesn't allow special orders. If they removed those two limitations the manual take rate would very possibly be 15-20%.
I must be one of those nine. Manual transmission and extended cab two door for me, thank you very much. I currently drive a 1998, manual, extended cab 2 door Tacoma, and I love it.
@NoQuarterNoMercy1 The biggest concern is usually the durability of the Turbos. The V6 engine is built to withstand the added payload and towing stress.
For anyone who droves with a rear view camera, how long did it take to adjust to not having a point of reference? Frame of the back window, trunk line, b pillars, etc.
I’m a truck drive for a living, and I simply enjoy manual transmissions, my current Tacoma is manual and I hope for when I’m ready for another the manual will continue to live on
Wonder how the quality has been at the plant in Mexico now that the Tacoma production has been moved there for this new generation. And 1st year and 2nd model year of a new generation will almost always have more reliability issues as the Tundra has been facing. In my opinion, it was nice that rear discs are now included.
I'm happy to report Mexican plants perform really well (2 plants producing Tacomas). The culture there is different; everyone takes their job seriously and there is a sense of pride. Plus the takt time is about the same as our Lexus plants so more time to perform their process and then confirm their work.
@@COSolar6419 I had no idea tacomas were built in Mexico prior to new generation. I’ve watched two different videos from Toyota reps and they only mentioned the 2024 onward moving to Mexico plant and Tundra remaining in Texas. Maybe they (Toyota reps) are speaking about the Tacomas sold to North America only?
I have to disagree with you. In the US where this car is sold, most people have begun to drive automatics for convenience and ease of use, so I personally do not expect the manual to be as successful as the automatic transmission
"The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, which will launch in the spring of 2024, will be available in three trims to start: First Edition, 1958, and Land Cruiser."
I love some of the new features of this 4th gen Tacoma! With that said, these have sooo much more that can go wrong/break over the years. I have a 21 manual Tacoma, and though it leaves some to be desired, it’s a truck I believe will last a very long time to come.
Toyotas are good, but too much tech to go wrong. You go in the water and that electric parking brake is going to soon fail and you will get a bill you won't believe!
Exactly, what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
True! I drove all the midsize trucks figuring I'd get a Tacoma and realized I'm not taking a $50K+ truck rock crawling. I woke up and found I loved the Honda Ridgeline which is perfect for the real world. Way more roomy, comfortable, more powerful, and better gas mileage.
I have driven and/or owned a number of pickups with a manual transmission and have loved every one of them. I am so happy that Toyota still makes the option available. I believe that they're the only ones left in the US that does.
As a valet here in San Diego, I’ve parked TONS of tacomas, a surprising amount of which are stick shift. Even new ones. Probably about 25-30% were stick shift, if the outgoing model, just a rough estimate.
Yeah no, they publish the numbers at it's closed to 5% look it up. When it comes to the Tacoma, which offers a six-speed manual in 4×4 TRD models, we’re looking at a take rate of 5%.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been looking inside every Tacoma I see (at work, at the mall, on the street) and I have not seen a single stick shift yet. Very sad. Ridiculous that a man would buy an automatic when he could get a stick shift. The manual is the reason I would get a Tacoma. Maybe you valet for a location with real drivers.
Many downsides to sticks nowadays. Auto transmissions get better gas mileage now and are pretty maintenance free. Clutches still go out and that's a big job.
Nah man, to make it more demand they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
@@YvaneifyOh no, they haven't lost it...they have such a truck that's like 10-15k coming out to be sold in Asian markets like that.....due to all the regulations and safety testing we will not get it in the states.
Cool that they still offer the clutch start cancel switch. I have it in my '95 tacoma, its great for starting the truck having to get in all the way and sit down. Also great if your clutch pedal switch fails and doesn't register your clutch as being depressed which would preventing you from starting the truck otherwise.
Pretty cool truck, loaded with so many features. That being said, it really depends what your into. For the cost and the amount of tech in something like this, youre going to have a real hard time when stuff breaks down in the middle of a trail. I feel like once the warranties are done on these, its going to get scary for cost of repairs when electronics start failing. Not against new tech at all, but for an offroader, I dunno...
Nailed it, they upped the cost to take these trucks to their limits and catoring to the new class of yuppie buyers that want a truck with all these gizmos. Not the old generation of die hard Tacoma fans that wanted a simple truck, simple power train and not much to go wrong on them. With that being said. I would trade my 23 taco trd off road in a heartbeat if they kept the same power train, addressed the lousy automatic transmission mapping and slapped it into the new body/cab. Owning it for about a year made me find out all the quirks. The cab is too cramp, the Adaptive automatic is horrible up and down shifting like it lost its mind constantly (fixed that with aftermarket plug and play box that was $180) and handful of small annoyance that most people would live with such as a annoying whistle at 52mph, window runner seals are too small that cause the windows to loudly tick when they are down and driving.
Like every new car I feel they are made to lease and not to own. We will see how these are with all the tech in 10 years when these have over 200k miles
I smell stacks of troubles with the turbo engine in North American markets. People are used to just haul and tow with the V6 engines and then stop the truck and do other stuff. Now with the four cylinder turbo engine you have to let the turbocharger cool at idle. The problem is that nobody's going to do that. And there's going to be a lot of turbos broken because of unskilled use.
It's probably not going to be very popular...but that short extended cab version looks really sleek with some of the sportiest and most connected lines across the body of any body-on-frame pickup truck I've seen (excluding car-based trucks like the Hyundai Santa Cruz). It looks really cool and would make a great truck if you want something smaller than full-size and primarily need the truck bed more than rear seat passenger space. Such a nimble-looking set up.
The prices on these are too high for their target audience. 10 years ago, the average price on a Tacoma was $20k and now it's $40k. This is supposed to be a truck for the blue collar working man.
Fantastic, detailed review Doug as always, you inspired me to configure my own online. I went with the PreRunner Xtra cab for $38,100 in solar octane for $425 because I love the looks, unique colour, and extra storage. I added the upgrade package for $1,390 with black fabric interior. I love how cloth feels and self-regulates temperature and I added the all-weather floor liners for $179 and the sprey in bed liner for $575 for protection. I went with the bed extender for $425 for extra room, along with the bed step for $455, and Predator tube steps for $700 to make it more practical. Finally, the spare tire lock for $75 for security. Delivery, processing, and handling was 1,499, for an out the door total of $43, 823.
I work for a Toyota dealership in SD and today we had our first training on the new 2024 Tacomas. I've learned more about the truck from your 25 min video than I did from an hour training by Toyota, now I'm ready to sell these as soon as we get them in, thanks Doug.
I reported you to Karen in H.R.
@@THX5000 lol
Typical
Gang, baby.
Yeah you got the marketing information, Doug is an obsessed car guy pointing out things only a car owner would think about.
The tailgate button is definitely cool but I’d imagine most everyday truck buyers would rather just have a more affordable truck
The TRD Off-road is one of the highest Tacoma trims, I doubt it’s available on the SR or SR5
@@alexpearman4492 but you can’t get an SR or SR5 with a manual trans
@@JMunn55 actually the SR can have a manual in a crew cab configuration with 4x4 but that base setup is almost 40K
I hate that automatic tailgate feature.
@@jetter820 only an idiot would "hate" an automatic tailgate feature that you can easily bypass. also this feature should've been in trucks ages ago.
Blows my mind that Toyota is still able to put a manual transmission, especially with all the tech inside and around
Doug says only about "8" people will buy it with a stick, but I know the take rate on these is about 30%. There is plenty of demand for the Taco with a manual, and not just the stripped down versions with the low end engines. People want these fully loaded with a manual. They're fun to drive.
@@joe6096 NO WAY anything close to 30% of Tacoma buyers will opt for the manual.
@@truthserum5310 Absolutely they do and will continue. Toyota isn’t stupid.
@@joe6096 Yep, I've got my manual trans, and my heated leather seats and sunroof in my 3rd gen, a manual just feels right in a truck like this, and I get to have my nice features too. Toyota knows what the enthusiasts want. Now, if we could only just order exactly what we want, instead of hoping to find the perfect allocation, but that's another discussion....
@@joe6096 seriously, the MT is why I bought my Tacoma.
This is a well thought out truck inside and out. I'm glad the front end doesn't have the same kind of ridiculous oversized grille that the Tundra has. Kudos for keeping buttons and knobs AND having a big screen, and for keeping the manual transmission alive. We're few and far between, but a lot of us love them and still want them.
The Tundra grille isn’t ridiculous. Looks beautiful on the truck and makes me smile every time I look at it in my driveway.
@@johndelossantos1572 it's big enough to swallow the rest of the truck
One thing that is not well thought out is how narrow the bed is with composite bed.
X2 on the manual. Only way to drive
Yeah, thats crazy that the smaller truck has a smaller grille, I would have never thought of that
It's crazy how small truck beds are getting these days. The OG Tacoma' s bed was soo much bigger and never forget the Tacoma's predecessor the Hilux with both a 6 1/2ft and 8 foot bed and yet is almost half the size of this thing. I miss REAL mintrucks.
because everyone buying them now are in the city. they have gone away form the cars and now pursue the trucks. problem is parking and maneuvering in the city is more complicated. why you end up with more compact trucks and shorter beds like the 5' beds.
@@outdoorsnevada4138 That would make sense but that truck is bigger then the old trucks that in talking about. This truck looks as big as old full size trucks like old F250's and stuff like that. If it was a size problem then bring stuff like the subi brat or dodge rampage aka car based trucks.
I have a 76 with the long bed and a 13 taco with the long bed its crazy how much bigger the 13 is over the 76'.
It’s more of a mid SUV
Agreed. Toyota has ruined the Tacoma with the 2024.
I like that technologies around the standard transmission still progresses regardless of its unpopularity
I likethe manuel transmission because it's the ultimate anti theft device.
It is hard to say how popular it really is. They artificially cap it at around 5% (I've heard) of production and they sell out quickly/are hard to find. If they actually allowed custom orders and as many people as wanted to order them could, would be interesting to see how many would sell.
If only you could spell manual.@@michiganborn8303
@@michiganborn8303 lmao true, no one these days wants to take the time to learn
@@RecBuddha I was just referring to standard transmissions in general not specifically the Tacoma
8 years into owning a Sienna, with those same A/C dials, and I still love them. Ingenious design; you touch them all the time and with this design you don't even have to look. Easy to find by touch, easy to use, and used all the time. A+ user experience
Not quite a Tesla!
I would hate to lose that JBL speaker.
12:43 my 2021 manual Tacoma has this Clutch Start Cancel button too. It's so useful when you're standing outside the truck and want to turn it on. You don't have to awkwardly swing your leg in to push the clutch down to start the engine
I think that's its only purpose. Start the car with clutch in and you'll lurch and stall xD
As does my 2006
My 2007 FJ Cruiser also had this.
My 95 4runner had it
CSC has been a Toyota feature for the ages - I had a '95 4Runner with one too
Happy you got to drive the manual for the review! My dad has had 3 Tacomas for work trucks, all of them being manuals. His current, a 2018 a TRD Off-road has been an awesome truck. He'll be putting in an order for a new manual in a year or so once the current truck has about 200k on it. The 6MT was the only trans to buy with the 3rd gen Taco IMO, I had an automatic with a small lift and larger tires, it was terrible to drive. My dad's with the 6MT is much much better to drive. Seems like they did a great job with this rig. Hope the new 4 Runner comes out soon as well!
Manual transmission all the way. THANK YOU Toyota for keeping it available.
Not sure about other Toyotas, but manual Tacomas have had a clutch start cancel button for years. I liked it for warming my truck up on cold days because I could put it in neutral and start it without getting inside.
I think a lot of the Japanese trucks have for years. A friend of mine used to own a later Nissan Hardbody 4X4 that had that feature, too.
My '86 also has it. Useful for starting in gear on a hill, too.
Yep use it on my 2013 for exactly that
My 88 pickup had it!! Loved that they still have that feature! Thats so awesome!!
Cars used to let you start the car without pressing the clutch but at some point they decided they don't trust us to know how to drive a car. But it's good that Toyota at least allows you the choice.
And it’s damn near the same price as a Tundra, no thanks I’ll take the Tundra 🤣, the car industry is a joke right now
We live in a world with electric F-150s, and mustangs now 🤮
@CarLoverPhotography well they aren't bad cars they just have no soul
Because 🤡’s continue to pay these ridiculous prices on new vehicles. A fool is made everyday at the dealerships
Yeah but no more Camry engine
That’s because retail interests rates are stupid high and stealerships are barely making enough to pay rent. Everything is fucked
My 3rd gen is a stick, honestly the clutch start cancel button is great for getting the truck warm without hopping into the truck. I use it all the time snowboarding. My boots are too big to fit in the truck and depress the clutch. So I park it in neutral and when I get back, tap clutch start cancel and turn the key to start warming and defrosting the truck while I change out of my boots and gear. 10/10 thought on Toyota.
Lol same on my second gen! I never use it for its intended purposes of driving on the starter.
It's always pre heat or cool truck, but I still love it! Thanks Toyota
My ‘91 had it too, probably my favorite feature on that thing
I do the same thing while I'm putting my work boots on before driving to work. Don't have to climb in to start it.
I've never seen a Tacoma without one. Super useful if you're working on them while they're on a lift.
Same on 99' 4runner manual! Love the Clutch cancel button, specially since it's on the left of the steering wheel = easy access! I have a feeling they will sell more Manuals than last gen.
Doug is the type of guy to sell 5,000 tacomas to the middle east
I considered getting a manual Tacoma a few years ago when I was in the market. Glad to see they are still gonna make them in future.
Glad to see Doug reviewing the most realistic model. TRD Pro videos are fun but only a handful of ppl can afford or get their hands on one
Exactly!
Most realistic? No what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
TRD pro is not out till spring next year or he would have reviewed that one first , he usually always reviews the top of the line model
@@Yvaneify you’ve lost it if you think they should charge $2000 a truck. I’m assuming you mean 20k?
I’m already terrified to see how much it’s gonna cost here in Canada. Easily 70k plus.
Cool that they still offer a manual. Makes me want one
If paying the same price as a new full sized truck is viable go for it, but I'll never get this model. And I'm a current 2018 tocoma owner
Everyone on the internet "wants a manual" but when push comes to shovel, they go automatic. Look at the stat sheets.
@Brian_Eugene_Lee They can't because of the Chicken Tax. It would be significantly more expensive if they did make it in Japan.
@@herewegoagain7403 That's because they're nearly impossible to get from dealers. I shopped around for a year before giving up. Nobody has the manual Tacoma, and if they do, it's marked up 10k.
@@herewegoagain7403 stat sheets are from the people who buy new cars enthusiasts usually dont buy a car brand new right?
Doug is the type of guy to call a USB C Port USB A.
Doug is a type of a guy to eat sushi at italian restaurant
Glad I'm not the only one to notice...
He did call the interior USB chargers the right name tho.
eh it's a small mix-up
I stopped paying attention after that moment.
I had a pre-Tacoma SR5 in 1985. It had the clutch/starter disconnect and I used it a lot in off-road situations. Loved it.
I think you’re wrong about people getting this in manual, it is just about the only new truck truck you can get in a stick shift and that means that they own that entire part of the the new truck market.
Doug is a type of guy who got Carrera GT, Countach, and GT but didn't care about getting a band-aid for himself.
I'm glad this is still happening.
yup
It looks like he had a catfight, as he has scratches on his nose as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@leavnsmallville78still happening since 2015?
@@purwantiallan5089 I don’t know, As long as I’ve been paying attention. My favorite was about him being the kind of guy who takes his pants all the way down at a public urinal.
Finally 4 disc brakes on the Tacoma!! It only took 84 years!!
4:55 The longer wheelbase is to push the front tires closer to the corner for better approach angle and make it ride a bit smoother. The cab is the same length as before. Passenger room is increased because the cab is taller thus you sit more upright which in turn gives you more leg room since your legs aren't straight out in front of you.
Also, the button on the taillights is to open and close the tailgate, not sure why Doug focused so much on the closing part.
Correct, I saw a video from the head designer, and he said that has been the chief complaint for years, and they finally did something about it. That and the double hood prop locations is for the shorter people who struggle to lift the hood
Except it looks like the back seats are smaller now. Definitely smaller rear passenger windows, same leg room.
Looks like a mini version of my '24 Tundra! If I could afford to have one of these as a second vehicle, I definitely would!
turbo 4s are underrated. Just wait until the tunners get their hands on them and these things will be making 300 wheel with a simple flash tune. even more power with a down pipe and a stage 2 tune.
Doug, I am one of the 9 people who drive a new manual Tacoma. Thanks for the video!
Another big modernization of this truck is it now has 4 link rear suspension as opposed to leaf springs like previous tacomas
Leaf springs are still available on the new tacoma just on the lower tier trims
@jaimeramirez-perez7198 the sr and sr5 which are only available in the u.s
That is a ton of tech for a Taco, particularly the camera system. Toyota really did a good job with this refresh.
Gonna be unreliable like the new Tundras.
It's not a refresh. Doug already stated this is an all new truck.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 Tacomas sell. Tundras don't. If Toyota is going to put their reliability points into one truck, it's going to be the Tacoma.
Don’t worry your paying for the tech😂
Thing is people don't buy Tacomas for the tech. Quite the opposite actually.
I think you are definitely underestimating the amount of people who are going to opt for a manual transmission. Great video 🤘
I agree he seems very disconnected from the taco community. I personally know more people with the manual tacos than automatics
That stick shift is the *only* reason I’d trade in for one of these. Not to say anything against the rest of the truck, it looks awesome. But I already have an awesome truck, I just couldn’t get it with a clutch. Now I can trade for one. I guess I’m one of those “I need a manual in muh truck” guys.
@@TWEEK0423 Considering Toyota says only about 5% of their Tacoma sales are manual, I don’t think he’s the one who’s disconnected.
@@BestShootermanUbz5% of how many thousands of buyers though? 😂 There's still a lot of us that will die on the save the manuals hill.
Yep, still doesn't make it any less dumb.
Felt compeled to comment as one of the 9 owners of a stick shift Tacoma. Absolutly love it. Wouldn't trade it for an automatic in a million years. Best security system known to man.
You know it!
HAHA! True statement! I have a feeling they will sell more than 9....as conservative as Toyota is, they probably sold enough 3gen's and anticipate better sales to justify keeping the Manual .
I really wanted to want a stick shift so I test drove one and I just thought it was awful. That first gear ratio is super low. I just felt like I was shifting all the time for in town driving. And it didn't seem like a fun shifter either it's pretty small and has short throws. I just found it annoying but anyway, I tried!
im part of the nine haha
Yeah I think the manual is more common in trucks like this, than in a regular car. People still value the benefits of the manual (cheaper, simple, reliable, etc) especially in a truck. Manual was a must when I got my 3rd gen Tacoma and now my gladiator.
The wheel base was stretched to lower the fuel efficiency requirements in the US. The larger the area between the wheels, the lower the fuel efficient the requirements are. This is why cars are continually getting larger and larger in the United States.
Now that’s interesting
I hate Cafe standards. Maybe someone will make a small electric truck one day
@skeletor43 I believe that's going to be the Stout that comes out in a year or two.
Thanks for mentioning that! 100% true! 21/26 mpg is TERRIBLE considering it's 2024 now! My 90's makes that!
I feel like the speaker in the dash could be a contender for top 10 list of quirkiest quirks 🤔
camera rear view mirrors are one of the greatest ideas in the car industry for last few years.
Man I love that I can got all of that tech like the huge infotainment screen, digital dash, the digital rear view mirror, the multi cameras, cooled seats, diff lock, sway bar disconnect with a MANUAL transmission. Truck is too small for my needs but I’d buy it anyway because of that feature combo
If they hit 5% manual sales that will be a huge success for this manual transmission option.
This may have been already mentioned however the entire chassis/frame has been re-done which wasn't covered at all here. Several massive improvements there.
I love that Toyota is keeping the manual, a respectable amount of people including myself have the tacoma in manual and absolutely love it. Super fun to row through the gears in these little pickups.
About 5% of people go for the manual. Toyota publishes the sales figures...
Nah, what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
@@Yvaneify they’re supposed to be bringing a cheaper alternative to the market soon. But yea, I wouldn’t even consider the next gen Tacoma, let alone the 3rd Gen until they’ve all significantly dropped in price.
@@geffreycaruso2411It's not 5% per a spokesperson in 2023, it's 15%.
@@nwezetx1 I can see no evidence online of that stat. The 5% stat is everywhere.
"Nobody's gonna get this truck with a manual transmission." Oh how I hope you're wrong on this one.
Doug doesn't know Tacoma buyers. The manual Tacoma is offered because buyers demand it. Unfortunately Toyota artificially limits manual production so the manual will be rare, but not for lack of demand.
I would get the truck with a manual
This was an exceptionally detailed video - the best one I have seen thus far. However, there are plenty of us that prefer three pedals. It was a deciding factor in choosing the Tacoma for me - which trucks come in manual - tacoma and gladiator.
Same goes for me. I genuinely would've considered a Colorado given the current price point for the new Tacoma but the manual was a HARD sell for me. Can't imagine the resell value will ever deplete with the manual either, given I'd be real surprised if they revive it again for another year in 2025.
The no clutch feature is a vital part of safe extreme off roading. If you fail a steep ascent and need to safely go down and try again the technique is to turn off the engine, select reverse, put both feet off the pedals, turn your head to look backwards, and then start the engine. In low range of course. The truck will then safely slowly go back under power with max engine braking. It's fun.
The clutch button to allow to start the truck without pushing the pedal down has been in Toyota trucks since the 80s
Nice review Doug but there's more than 9 of us manual stalwarts out there buying these transmissions! Good to hear the midrange power isn't hurt by turbo lag which is great for cruising around town or getting on the highway but I'm more concerned with power at low RPM where the outgoing V6 was solid.
I couldn’t imagine wanting to row your own gears in something that has a mini van powertrain and passing power.
@@TheRidersChoice Rowing your own is always preferred and the less power available, the more I prefer it.
@@TheRidersChoice Better than letting a computer slushbox hunt for gears but I don't drive a truck for passing power, that's what my STI is for
I agree! I am looking to buy one. My first truck. For a long time, I have needed one with home projects, and towing a car to the racetrack but I didn’t want to give up a manual daily driver. I can’t afford to have a million cars either. This seems to perfectly fit my needs. I hope Toyota lets me buy one!
@@agnideva8227 that 4 cyl econo box gets gapped by any entry level BMW also. Calm down Mr Manual lol
I for sure have used the clutch start cancel in my 95 Toyota pickup. A very useful feature.
Looks like USB c in the bed. How do you start an engine while in gear? My t100 had the same feature where I could start engine without pressing clutch... But I needed to be in neutral I assume.
I have a 2017 Toyota Tacoma with a manual transmission. The "clutch start cancel" button that you reviewed is very useful anytime you simply want to start your vehicle without having to a) hope into the vehicle and b) depressing the clutch. If you press that button you can then be standing with your feet firmly on the ground and then start the ignition. The only thing, and this is a big one, is that you DON'T want the truck to be in gear as you start it as it will lurch forward (or backward if you have it in reverse) which can be mucho dangerous.
Toyota missed the opportunity to make the gauge cluster screen configurable to look like the 1987 Toyota Pickup Turbo gauge cluster similar to the S650 Foxbody gauge cluster
That should be a much more common feature. It's all software, just add some more gauge face options for fun!
Doug: filming outside adds such a depth to your videos compared to those shot in the new Cars and Bids space. I know you are a person of places; you appreciate your local surroundings and that was always evident in your videos. One could play a mini game of GeoGuessr based on the context of your filming locations. It was really nice to see this one filmed outside. I’m sure it’s much much more convenient to shoot at your new studio, but there’s just something different about hearing those birds chirp in the background.
It’s them Torrey Pines birds! Gotta love San Diego
It also doesn't help that he hasn't figured out the acoustics for the garage setup either. It's so damn echoey.
This video really hits home for me because it was filmed in Thousand Oaks, not far from where I live. I recognize the street he's driving on (Westlake Boulevard), he was heading northbound on it. Know that area really well, cool to see him do a test drive around there.
A little disappointing he didn't touch on the suspension or brakes. I believe they have been updated as well. Good they still offer the manual, some off roaders prefer it.
Wait so the trd pro only comes in hybrid? Or is there a full gas option?
I own a manual 2nd gen Tacoma, and I hope to be one of the 9 people with a manual 4th gen
I had a late '80s Toyota pickup that had that "clutch start cancel" that was handy in the dead of winter at 40 below when the clutch pedal was stiff as nails.
My moms 98 4runner had that as well probably a hold over from the 80's.
It’s so cool to see such a high tech modern car with a manual. Freakin love it
There’s a few reasons why Toyota was smart for keeping stick in this truck one is because of the backlash that they gotten when they offered the automatic only Toyota supra. The other reason is even though it’s not directly comparable with the bronco and jeep wrangler it’s been the choice of many off-roaders For years and they are both offered with manual transmissions. Also, the manual transmission will definitely pull a premium in the used market in five years.
Why, yes, Supra buyers are definitely the exact same people as Tacoma buyers. Laughable! They likely did a market analysis and decided that a certain segment of buyers really want a MT and won't buy a truck with an AT.
Which kind of corelates to the Supra in a way, They had to do a market research to see if people want a manual which they didn't do for the Supra
Haven’t heard anyone since 1995 say they prefer a manual for off-roading. Except maybe the home built non-street legal folks.
@@ChopperChadhave you ever four-wheeled in an automatic versus a manual transmission? There's no comparison. The manual offers 100% more control over the vehicle than an automatic does. I would never own a four-wheel drive vehicle in an automatic.
I’m love the clutch disable in my 1991 Toyota Pickup.
I use it everyday in the winter to pop the door open and start it up so I can get back inside as quick as possible. Lol
With my 22' PRO, I use the clutch start cancel button a lot to start my car up in the morning. Dont have to hop in to start. But thats because old gen manuals had a physical key, no need to tap the breaks with push to start
Glad Toyota is keeping the Manual as an option. Toyota clutches are bomb proof. My 81 Supra had 385K on it when I parked it permanently way back in the wayback.. My '04 Taco TRD was retired at 502K this past summer and replaced with a '14 with 220 on it. I expect it'll outlive me. ;)
The best thing about this truck that stands out from the rest for me is…. Its a manual transmission!! Thats cool af!
this is the perfect truck - manual, reliable and its a pick up truck!
When the seating space is twice the size of the bed, you no longer have a truck. This is a minivan with a small, open trunk.
Reliable? Yeah sure, that engine is bound to have many problems especially if people use it for Towing.
Reliable and turbocharged 4 cyl do not go together especially today
Barely a truck tbh. A 4 cylinder lmao
@@Jeff-bd5yoThank you, finally someone who gets it!!!
2015 manual tacoma owner and older truck apologist here - lots of fantastic interior upgrades that have made me reconsider whether or not I like this truck. So much extra storage to utilize. BUT, what were they thinking with that 4wd selector? I already hate that my truck has a switch and not a manual transfer case, but at least mine is easy to use.
The clutch cancel button also works in another way. They have had them in 1st gen pickups and 4Runners. Maybe second gen as well. If you go through some water or a river and your engine dies you can use that button and the power of the battery to slowly crawl you hopefully out of the river but doesn’t last as long as you’d hope but maybe that depends on your battery.
For whoever doubts about small turbo/hybrid engine’s power, you should try one, they are very torquey and responsive, the turbo is very small and fast spool, the electric torque is instantaneous,especially at altitude, at high altitude a turbo hybrid 4 will have more torque than ANY naturally aspirated V8
It ain't the power. Turbos aren't new technology, they'll give you more power. There's no way a turbo engine can live up to the durability of an NA one, all else being equal. That's the whole thing about Tacos and their reputation too.
Yeah, but a hybrid electric based on a turbo 4 cylinder introduces so many points of failure that simply wouldn't be there on a tried and true V6 (they wouldn't put a V8 in the Tacoma). Turbo 4s can indeed make impressive torque figures, and obviously EV motors are pure torque monsters, but it's going to be a lot more delicate and prone to being crippled by diagnostic faults. Also, not sure how the DIY mod scene will like this ultra-high-tech hybrid. It will likely be hard as hell to do anything with the hybrid version of this truck.
@@megachonk9440 well, hybrid power train is not easy to fix in your garage but they actually have less moving parts, pretty much all hybrid got rid off belts, alternators, water pump, ac compressor (those are all electrified and last the lifetime) and some hybrid don’t even have transmission, and the Tacoma hybrid is not really a true hybrid, it’s just a regular old truck with a electric motor sandwich in between, it can’t drive on electric, just a power adder, but it got rid of all the accessories
@@evanleo7633 just because those parts are electric doesn't mean they last forever. BMW's N54 experimented with electric water pumps back in 2007-2013. On average, the pumps only lasted ~60k miles. They went back to a mechanical belt driven water pump for their next engine after that failed experiment...
@@nsaad3048 exactly. That’s the reason I just bought a 2023 TRD off road 4x4 instead of waiting for the 2024. Outside of the fact I would never buy the first year of a remodel/new model, I didn’t want to deal with the extra hassle of not only the turbo shortening the engines lifespan, but also having to replace/fix the turbo when that breaks.
All the Taco videos coming out on Tuesday is fantastic.
Doug: Nobody's going to get this with a manual transmission.
Me: Already did 🤣
My friend is a manager at the Toyota dealership here and I'm getting the first one they get to replace my 2012 with 518k trouble free miles 👍
I have a 2013 with almost 250k. Crazy to think I could double it.
@qotsa1 you're such a slowpoke 😂
@@qotsa1 Yeah, I drive a lot for work. I've only ever driven Toyotas because of it. I couldn't imagine driving anything else that breaks down.
I’m proudly one of those “9” people
Car enthusiasts like manual transmissions. But car enthusiasts don't buy new cars.
Doug is a type of a guy to hit the bar and order tap water
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You stealing comments brotha
Brotha going insane this time
@@TFSIChristmas I'm not stealing anything
@edwardvalivonis23 okay but someone else made that comment
@@TFSIChristmas I made it before
Toyota is seeing sales of manual Tacoma of at least 15-20%, or else they wouldn't have gone through the expense of certifying the truck for different EPA tests, crash tests and emissions tests, plus different tunes for the engine, with different power ratings for the engine. To bring a manual to the market, there has be decent demand for it, to make it work Toyota's while, and the Taco has it.
Toyota claims 5% take rate on the manual.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Toyota limits production of the manual and doesn't allow special orders. If they removed those two limitations the manual take rate would very possibly be 15-20%.
@@bwofficial1776 I very nearly settled for an auto when I got mine, so you could be right.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagusIt's more like 11% according to the chief engineer.
The Morse code on the side of the dash reads "accessory ready" not "relay"
Oh yeah, I'm a blast at parties.. why do you ask?
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I must be one of those nine. Manual transmission and extended cab two door for me, thank you very much. I currently drive a 1998, manual, extended cab 2 door Tacoma, and I love it.
Hey Doug what about the Dacia Duster from TopGear?
I love that it has a manual still, but I’m really sad it’s priced itself out of the market and it’s lacking a V6
And you are going to get a HUGE markup over sticker. Even so on the 2023s.
-- There are 9 of us!
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9 (manual drivers).
Why does it need a V6? If the HP and torque are there who cares about the number of cylinders?
@NoQuarterNoMercy1 The biggest concern is usually the durability of the Turbos. The V6 engine is built to withstand the added payload and towing stress.
I wouldn't give 2 cents for the turbo 2.4 reliability
I really like the manual option, what i have issue with is the tiny bed. Four door long bed with a manual would be the ultimate
Never been made and never going to be.
Out of all the bulbs to keep halogen, they kept the ones that like to melt their housings on the older models 😂
For anyone who droves with a rear view camera, how long did it take to adjust to not having a point of reference? Frame of the back window, trunk line, b pillars, etc.
I’m a truck drive for a living, and I simply enjoy manual transmissions, my current Tacoma is manual and I hope for when I’m ready for another the manual will continue to live on
Wonder how the quality has been at the plant in Mexico now that the Tacoma production has been moved there for this new generation. And 1st year and 2nd model year of a new generation will almost always have more reliability issues as the Tundra has been facing. In my opinion, it was nice that rear discs are now included.
I'm happy to report Mexican plants perform really well (2 plants producing Tacomas). The culture there is different; everyone takes their job seriously and there is a sense of pride. Plus the takt time is about the same as our Lexus plants so more time to perform their process and then confirm their work.
@@am35378 thanks for the insight.
Our 2020 Tacoma was assembled in Baja Mexico.
@@COSolar6419 I had no idea tacomas were built in Mexico prior to new generation. I’ve watched two different videos from Toyota reps and they only mentioned the 2024 onward moving to Mexico plant and Tundra remaining in Texas. Maybe they (Toyota reps) are speaking about the Tacomas sold to North America only?
Embargo lifted clearly. Bit surprised though, Doug used to be the very first to review them (and still is, such as the Kia EV9)
I was gonna say the same, Toyota lifted the gates of content and everyone posted their Tacoma review this morning lol
Toyota doesn't care who is who. Embargo is an embargo and no one gets to be first.
I think doug is wrong, i think a LOT of people will get the manual.
I have to disagree with you. In the US where this car is sold, most people have begun to drive automatics for convenience and ease of use, so I personally do not expect the manual to be as successful as the automatic transmission
"The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, which will launch in the spring of 2024, will be available in three trims to start: First Edition, 1958, and Land Cruiser."
My first car ever was a 5 speed 98 toyota tacoma single cab man I had fun running around in that thing. Tacoma has come a long way since then
I love some of the new features of this 4th gen Tacoma! With that said, these have sooo much more that can go wrong/break over the years. I have a 21 manual Tacoma, and though it leaves some to be desired, it’s a truck I believe will last a very long time to come.
Toyotas are good, but too much tech to go wrong. You go in the water and that electric parking brake is going to soon fail and you will get a bill you won't believe!
I'm honestly I'm not impressed with this truck, especially with the engine.
Just get a canyon, tacomas are overrated
Exactly, what they should do is they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
too much tech. the 2024 tacoma is designed to fail the day after you pay it off.
I like how doug still think most people bought trucks because they are gonna do truck stuff with them.
LOL. Yeah, Tacoma Tammy is driving her truck to pick up a few bags of mulch. Does that count?
@@ermatthe Doesn't matter how you use it as long as you use it!!
True! I drove all the midsize trucks figuring I'd get a Tacoma and realized I'm not taking a $50K+ truck rock crawling. I woke up and found I loved the Honda Ridgeline which is perfect for the real world. Way more roomy, comfortable, more powerful, and better gas mileage.
I have driven and/or owned a number of pickups with a manual transmission and have loved every one of them. I am so happy that Toyota still makes the option available. I believe that they're the only ones left in the US that does.
Frontier also offer them mostly as the 4cyl
6:50 cracks me up they still use the same exact bed storage for well over a decade now
7:30 is that not usb-c?
As a valet here in San Diego, I’ve parked TONS of tacomas, a surprising amount of which are stick shift. Even new ones. Probably about 25-30% were stick shift, if the outgoing model, just a rough estimate.
Yeah no, they publish the numbers at it's closed to 5% look it up. When it comes to the Tacoma, which offers a six-speed manual in 4×4 TRD models, we’re looking at a take rate of 5%.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been looking inside every Tacoma I see (at work, at the mall, on the street) and I have not seen a single stick shift yet. Very sad. Ridiculous that a man would buy an automatic when he could get a stick shift. The manual is the reason I would get a Tacoma. Maybe you valet for a location with real drivers.
@@JDLPA Alot of people are just really stupid and lazy nowadays. I still don’t get why people don’t want to drive a stick.
@@JDLPAHe's wrong, when a chief engineer said 15% recently.
Many downsides to sticks nowadays. Auto transmissions get better gas mileage now and are pretty maintenance free. Clutches still go out and that's a big job.
Manual transmissions are really nice for agressive 4x4 trails so I think there will be some demand
Nah man, to make it more demand they should get rid of all the tech and keep it crank windows, no cruise control, no air bags. Then they should charge their customers $2000 for the truck to make it affordable. Toyota has lost it.
@@YvaneifyOh no, they haven't lost it...they have such a truck that's like 10-15k coming out to be sold in Asian markets like that.....due to all the regulations and safety testing we will not get it in the states.
@@fortheloveofnoiseThis guy is an annoying troll who keeps spamming the same BS everywhere. He's not a buyer of any sort.
A couple of years ago, I was driving a Tacoma as a work-issued vehicle, a 2014 or 15. I LOVED IT!!!
Why?? 😁
i have a 2007 manual v6 it has the cancel clutch start button
Cool that they still offer the clutch start cancel switch. I have it in my '95 tacoma, its great for starting the truck having to get in all the way and sit down. Also great if your clutch pedal switch fails and doesn't register your clutch as being depressed which would preventing you from starting the truck otherwise.
Doug is #1 at car reviews. This review on the 24 Tacoma truck is the best I have seen yet. 🏆
The New Taco 🌮 Toyota has never made a bad one... unless they get crusty and the frame gets rotted
Pretty cool truck, loaded with so many features. That being said, it really depends what your into. For the cost and the amount of tech in something like this, youre going to have a real hard time when stuff breaks down in the middle of a trail. I feel like once the warranties are done on these, its going to get scary for cost of repairs when electronics start failing. Not against new tech at all, but for an offroader, I dunno...
Nailed it, they upped the cost to take these trucks to their limits and catoring to the new class of yuppie buyers that want a truck with all these gizmos. Not the old generation of die hard Tacoma fans that wanted a simple truck, simple power train and not much to go wrong on them.
With that being said. I would trade my 23 taco trd off road in a heartbeat if they kept the same power train, addressed the lousy automatic transmission mapping and slapped it into the new body/cab. Owning it for about a year made me find out all the quirks. The cab is too cramp, the Adaptive automatic is horrible up and down shifting like it lost its mind constantly (fixed that with aftermarket plug and play box that was $180) and handful of small annoyance that most people would live with such as a annoying whistle at 52mph, window runner seals are too small that cause the windows to loudly tick when they are down and driving.
Like every new car I feel they are made to lease and not to own. We will see how these are with all the tech in 10 years when these have over 200k miles
We make a lot of engine parts for this truck. TCC, CHC, Intake manifold. Water pump and Oil pump. They're solid. Good stuff.
I smell stacks of troubles with the turbo engine in North American markets. People are used to just haul and tow with the V6 engines and then stop the truck and do other stuff. Now with the four cylinder turbo engine you have to let the turbocharger cool at idle. The problem is that nobody's going to do that. And there's going to be a lot of turbos broken because of unskilled use.
It's probably not going to be very popular...but that short extended cab version looks really sleek with some of the sportiest and most connected lines across the body of any body-on-frame pickup truck I've seen (excluding car-based trucks like the Hyundai Santa Cruz). It looks really cool and would make a great truck if you want something smaller than full-size and primarily need the truck bed more than rear seat passenger space. Such a nimble-looking set up.
That’s what I was thinking too. If we can’t have a single cab at least the extended cab looks pretty cool. All crew cab trucks look horrible imo.
Especially since the new extended cab Tacoma doesn't have rear seats at all.
Its not 4x4 though sadly
I'm so glad they kept the manual. I could do without all the tech, but cars are like cell phones these days.
Honestly the Tacoma is the best truck around, the sizing is still perfect despite getting bigger
With the crumple zone regulations it's very hard to make a small truck, but toyota is doing the best they can
The prices on these are too high for their target audience. 10 years ago, the average price on a Tacoma was $20k and now it's $40k. This is supposed to be a truck for the blue collar working man.
Fantastic, detailed review Doug as always, you inspired me to configure my own online.
I went with the PreRunner Xtra cab for $38,100 in solar octane for $425 because I love the looks, unique colour, and extra storage. I added the upgrade package for $1,390 with black fabric interior. I love how cloth feels and self-regulates temperature and I added the all-weather floor liners for $179 and the sprey in bed liner for $575 for protection. I went with the bed extender for $425 for extra room, along with the bed step for $455, and Predator tube steps for $700 to make it more practical. Finally, the spare tire lock for $75 for security. Delivery, processing, and handling was 1,499, for an out the door total of $43, 823.