I do love your videos! I’ve studied the Ripper case for decades and as soon as I heard the Lechmere theory it blew my mind. I appreciate your diligent research and I’m looking forward to future videos!
The one thing I find fascinating about all these Ripper and Torso tales is how the person who discovers the gruesome remains is able to summon a policeman within minutes, often one is only a street or two away. Would that we had such a police service nowadays........
just finished watching this series and it's an amazing account of the whole cases, probably the only detailed videos on yt about this subject that i can find. thank you edward.
I don't know what's more disturbing. That Jack the Ripper was far more prolific than generally understood, or that there were at least two very sick puppies in circulation in London at that time.
Good work. Excellent videos. I haven't been to your beautiful country since 2000. I went on the tour, these videos are very much appreciated. Keep it up from Wesley T in Michigan, USA
Thank you, yet again, Mr. Stow, for another excellent video. It is evident that you have put a great deal of time and effort into your research and the making of all your videos. I look forward to reading your book.
Just found your channel and I really enjoy it! I would love to see a breakdown/compilation of how the currents and tides of the Thames affected where the parts were found, compared with more modern Torso Murders. I live in the Buffalo-Niagara area and when people wind up in the rivers or the lakes, they can get stuck in certain places because of the rocks. Seeing the marshes/mud flats in the Rainham episode & knowing the different landscape of the Thames made me think of how different-but-similar situations can occur.
JRT has fascinated me since I was a child in the seventies. I have believed in many theories but I found that they just didn’t hold up. This is the first time that a suspect has thoroughly enthralled me. LECHMERE is JRT
@ Margaret - oooh, strong words! So for you Lechmere is a stronger candidate than Tumblety and Kosminski? I wish that I had your confidence but every time I think I've made up my mind I read or watch something that sows a seed of doubt!
@@hetaera3418 Show any shred of evidence for Kosminski or Tumblety? Tumblety was a known homosexual, quack doctor without a shred of evidence. Kosminski was a 23 year old Schizophrenic, babbling in the streets, doesn't fit the profile at all. Neither can be placed at any crime scene. On the other hand, Lechmere was found standing over a still warm body, lied about his name, lied about a PC being at her body, wouldn't come in for the inquest, his path to work coincided to every crime scene. He is the exact age of the profile, had a reason to being the streets in the middle of the night, grew up in the area, was a normal seeming man that could blend into the crowd. If you can think of a better suspect, with as much evidence as that, even though it's circumstancial, coincidence after coincidence, lie after lie. I'd love to hear about a better suspect?
@@walkawaycat431 - Gosh, I wish that I could put a case to you like I could a few years back. But it's been a while since I've felt able to as I haven't read much about JTR for some time. Wasn't Lechmere a mortuary assistant? Is that correct? And he may have assisted with Annie Chapman? I always had my doubts about him but you've really challenged them with your post. I remember Tumblety having a collection of female reproductive organs and some Scotland Yard agents went to America after him (although that may not be related). I've never been fully convinced that sexuality necessarily negated a suspect. And with Kosminski it was the whole DNA thing from the shawl. The one thing that I do believe, however, is that whilst we can never prove beyond a reasonable doubt who JTR was, we can certainly prove who he was not, thus narrowing the field. You certainly know your stuff, though, so much respect for that.
@@hetaera3418 No. He was the Carman who lied about his name to the court and police. He was alone with Mary Nichol's body for almost 10 minutes. Check out "The missing evidence" documentary.
@@Jay-tk7ib well "There are probably a few hundred theories that would fit that theme." is not a good argument. As far as I know, and others, there is not. And if there were, at least list two or three that would. Secondly, we are not talking evidence here, but more of a way of thinking when it comes to crimes. People tend to over complicate things. That was my point.
@@00Kuja00 Yes, people tend to overcomplicate things but to use such a broad statement to prop up the Lechmere theory is meaningless. I think it would be easier to list the theories with complexities. Every theory will have a certain amount of simplicity, as well as a degree of complexity, including the Lechmere theory.
Poor girl. Why oh why did she not just go home with her mother when she met her in the street, Oh any number of reasons I guess.. but she would have had a bed. I wonder if it mentioned the mother's reaction upon identifying the corpse and. What I'd like to know is how would you present a dismembered bunch of body parts to a potential mother of someone for viewing??
Hearing someone refer to Benedict Arnold as a “hero of the American rebellion” makes me want to laugh. Being born an American, I have never heard him spoken of that way. We know he fought for the American side for several years, he should’ve been promoted for his work at the Battle of Saratoga, but was demoted and reprimanded instead because he broke rank and improvised from the original battle plans (his improvisations were one of the important reasons the Americans won that battle). But after he made an attempt to betray George Washington to the British forces, he’s been completely forgotten about over here as anything but a traitor, and his name has become a synonym for ‘Judas’ in our schoolbooks. Politics aside, I think it’s funny.
Enjoyed the videos, but couldn't understand some of it because the sound was so low.--What about videos on the further murders of Jack the Ripper after Mary Kelly, or any murders that were the same as the Ripper's, murders
Dear Edward, it's evident that there is a connection between the two series of crimes, as you mentioned. If possible, I would appreciate your valuable insights regarding how Lechmere could have committed those crimes while working as a carman. Was he already involved in the cat's meat business at that time? Was it possible for him to have access to any kind of cart when he was not working? Is 'Charlie' merely another coincidence?
I appreciate your efforts to bring attention to Charles Lechmere. It isn't just his strange behavior surrounding the first canonical murder, Polly Nichols I believe, it's also the far too coincidental way in which all the murders seem to fall between his route to home and work or his route to his mother's and his new home or his old route to work from when he lived nearer his mother. In modern investigations it seems obvious that lechmere would be a great suspect. Especially after he lied at the inquest about his earlier lies to the constable in order to get by him without being drawn into the investigation. I've come to believe that Lechmere probably is the ripper.
I know it's purely superficial but there is also something menacing about his older photo. He has absolutely dead cold eyes. Not in itself damning evidence but it hardly helps his cause.
Yes and some witnesses, I cannot remember who they were but two separate ones, one man and one female, described “weak eyes”, or eyes that were in some way quite odd. It does bring up Lechmere’s droopy eyes...
Found the witness!: J Best (Stride case) : “He had weak eyes. By that I mean sore eyes without eyelashes. I would recognize him anywhere.” This guy and his friend (Gardner, who corroborated this sighting of the couple at the pub) recognized the flower she had on her jacket. They are in my view the best witnesses of the entire case, and would easily have confounded Charles Cross (Lechmere) had he not been just another witness two murders prior.
@@wrathofatlantis2316 yup.. and a blotchy face as described to be seen with Kelly. Tried to share a link that clarified Chuck’s pic and analyzed his eyes and face in general but got deleted. I suppose if you search mark doran hats off 4.
EVIL LIES BEHIND LECHMERES EYES. A REAL CREEPY LOOKING FELLA. IT'S AS IF HE'S SAYING "I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T, IF ONLY THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW WHO I AM". VERY SMUG.
Hackney Hospital poorhouse on Homerton ... In 1860 a smallpox ward was built (labour was provided by the inmates) and, in 1866, ... In 1976 an Oncology Department with 2 wards was opened.
One could still argue he was a hero for the United States since he was pivotal for American forces in the Battle of Saratoga which is widely regarded as the turning point in the Revolutionary War.
Dr Robert Knox involved in Burk and Hare body snatcher case Scotland moved to London around this time .Hare and Dr Knox were in London Dr Knox He continued working at the Cancer Hospital until shortly before his death on 20 December 1862, at 9 Lambe Terrace in Hackney.
Been into jtr since i read my first jtrbook Stephen Knights The final solution with hindsght pure fantasy.Starting watching this today and im blown away with your video series absolutely brilliant thanks Edward.
A question that comes to mind about the Polly Nichol's murder....why didn't Paul find it suspicious that Lechmere lied to Mizen about there being a policeman at the scene? Did he just go along with the lie?
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I just re-watched that episode, but it wasn't covered. There are conflicting reports on what Lechmere told Mizen. One of them being "You're wanted down there." So he may not have mentioned anything about being wanted by a "policeman".
@@jaygreenham Sorry you are right - I said I would cover these issues in a future episode. As for what Lechmere said or what Mizen claimed he had said, there are some truncated accounts which is what you are referring to. The Coroner went on to ask Lechmere if he had told Mizen he was wanted by another policeman to which Lechmere replied: 'no because there wasn't another policeman'. To paraphrase. It is beyond question that Mizen claimed Lechmere told him he was wanted by another policeman. Bit this discussion is better had on the appropriate film.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanks. There are so many inconsistencies in the available records. It would be great to have them all compared and analysed further.
Ok if Lechmere was responsible for some if not all the torso murders. The next question to ask really is where was his; dare I say it. His workshop? He would have needed privacy for that sort of thing and time. Given he had a large family and family duties. He certainly couldn’t do it in the basement of his own home. So logically he would have needed to rent something out or some abandoned building close to his residence. Surely some in the family would have taken notice of his long absence and indeed he would have had to continue to work at Pickford's. Keeping up appearances.
Maybe somebody in the family DID note something. But what makes you think that they would necessarily take their observations to the police? Lechmeres wife Elizabeth got a substantial lot of money when Charles died. She had him buried in a paupers grave, and the saw to it that she herself ended up in the opposite end of that same cemetery, with a nice headstone when her time came. Is that proof of anything? No. But it IS a matter that lends itself very well to suggesting that she may have had her suspicions about her husband. London was the biggest metropolis on earth, and there would have been many places that could have worked as a bolthole for Lechmere, not least if he had the economic means to rent such a place. For example.
Thanks for this. Will you write a book about your research? Ever since the missing evidence doc I've been waiting for a book from your swedish friend but it never came out, to my knoweledge. Especially if your book Included a more precise bio of charles lechmere, if you are close to his descendants that could be a mine of information. Although he died 100 years ago. 100 years anniversary will be next month, on the 23rd of December.
@French blue8 well he died at 71 in 1920. Photography was invented in 1816. The first movie was shot by Leprince in the autumn of 1888 in Leeds, contemporaneous to the ripper crimes ua-cam.com/video/nR2r__ZgO5g/v-deo.html Would have been cool if Le Prince had put his camera in say miter square at the right time...
The photo of Lechmere was taken in 1912. The year of the Titanic sinking. There's an identical photo of his wife Elizabeth standing in the exact same place, taken on the same day, and same year.. Elizabeth lived to a ripe old age of 90. Also there's more photo's of his children and grandchildren. All will be shown in the future book.
@@susanclapp1721 great news! Hope there will also be clippings of the newspapers articles relating to bucks row's murder as well as the ones relating to the inquest. The contradictions, all different angles and so on...because for us it is impossible to find in detail...as well as info about thomas cross, the stepfather who was a cop and whose name Charles lechmere borrowed for some reason at the inquest (my guess is to gain sympathy from the police who might still have remembered him).and indeed the mother and the wife and children... cant wait...cheers!
Off the topic of this video, but relevant to the previous one: NETFLIX just released a series about Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper). It gives the viewer background information on the victims and has interviews with surviving family members and Police officials.
If it’s JTR then why not just leave the bodies ? Cutting them up and disposing of them like this would require both time and privacy. I still think the body parts were most likely to have been dropped off a barge or boat, and that the culprit for the torso Murders worked on the Thames in some capacity.
Then why were some parts inland? Particularly Pinchin Street. And why cut them up instead of just throwing them overboard? The dismemberment was clearly to assist in land based disposal. These victims presumably had been taken somewhere, unsuspectingly, alive, a bolt hole of some sort, and killed there. Not killed in the street as for the standard ripper cases. Then the body had to be disposed of.
Maybe these were victims he'd managed to lure back to his home. And once killed they presented a problem of how to dispose of the bodies. The fact that he killed Mary Kelly indoors shows he wasn't bound to any one MO. It is entirely possible he lured some victims back to his home and killed them there. And if we total up the canonical victims with the torsos it's about a 50/50 split. Obviously killing them in the street where he could easily be discovered was hardly ideal and it seems plausible that his first choice would have been to do the deed in his home at his leisure.
My god the London skyline at night looks like dystopian Tokyo all that’s missing are giant LED advertisement boards. What has happened to that Old English architecture? What has happened to British Charm?! Whoever are the city planners of London should be fired.
EVERYONE WANTS A BOOK, HOW ABOUT A FULL MOVIE BASED ON THE LECHMERE SIDE INSTEAD OF THE DEAD IN THE WATER ROYAL THEORIES CONSTANTLY USED IN OTHER MOVIES. ROYAL FAMILY MEMBERS OLD AND NEW HAVE NO BRAIN CAPACITY TO PLAN SOMETHING LIKE JTR, ANYWAY, PRINCE ALBERT VICTOR WAS IN FRANCE AT THE TIME OF AT LEAST TWO OF THE MURDERS, UNLESS HE HAD A GREAT TRIBUTE ACT GOING AT THE TIME.
Some stop because they have to. We had a serial killer in Philadelphia. He killed 9-10 women in the 80s. He was never caught and the number one suspect moved and died.
Your work and knowledge of these crimes are exceptionally informing. Thanks for sharing. Judah
I do love your videos! I’ve studied the Ripper case for decades and as soon as I heard the Lechmere theory it blew my mind. I appreciate your diligent research and I’m looking forward to future videos!
The one thing I find fascinating about all these Ripper and Torso tales is how the person who discovers the gruesome remains is able to summon a policeman within minutes, often one is only a street or two away. Would that we had such a police service nowadays........
And many of them of the Thames River Police just happened to be... rowing by right at that exact moment!
Policemen had their beat and they walked it - and they knew the people
Thanks for the effort behind these videos,thoroughly enjoy them,keep up the good work 👍
just finished watching this series and it's an amazing account of the whole cases, probably the only detailed videos on yt about this subject that i can find. thank you edward.
I don't know what's more disturbing. That Jack the Ripper was far more prolific than generally understood, or that there were at least two very sick puppies in circulation in London at that time.
Good work. Excellent videos. I haven't been to your beautiful country since 2000. I went on the tour, these videos are very much appreciated. Keep it up from Wesley T in Michigan, USA
Thank you, yet again, Mr. Stow, for another excellent video. It is evident that you have put a great deal of time and effort into your research and the making of all your videos. I look forward to reading your book.
Just found your channel and I really enjoy it! I would love to see a breakdown/compilation of how the currents and tides of the Thames affected where the parts were found, compared with more modern Torso Murders. I live in the Buffalo-Niagara area and when people wind up in the rivers or the lakes, they can get stuck in certain places because of the rocks. Seeing the marshes/mud flats in the Rainham episode & knowing the different landscape of the Thames made me think of how different-but-similar situations can occur.
JRT has fascinated me since I was a child in the seventies. I have believed in many theories but I found that they just didn’t hold up. This is the first time that a suspect has thoroughly enthralled me. LECHMERE is JRT
@ Margaret - oooh, strong words! So for you Lechmere is a stronger candidate than Tumblety and Kosminski? I wish that I had your confidence but every time I think I've made up my mind I read or watch something that sows a seed of doubt!
@@hetaera3418 Show any shred of evidence for Kosminski or Tumblety? Tumblety was a known homosexual, quack doctor without a shred of evidence. Kosminski was a 23 year old Schizophrenic, babbling in the streets, doesn't fit the profile at all. Neither can be placed at any crime scene. On the other hand, Lechmere was found standing over a still warm body, lied about his name, lied about a PC being at her body, wouldn't come in for the inquest, his path to work coincided to every crime scene. He is the exact age of the profile, had a reason to being the streets in the middle of the night, grew up in the area, was a normal seeming man that could blend into the crowd. If you can think of a better suspect, with as much evidence as that, even though it's circumstancial, coincidence after coincidence, lie after lie. I'd love to hear about a better suspect?
@@walkawaycat431 - Gosh, I wish that I could put a case to you like I could a few years back. But it's been a while since I've felt able to as I haven't read much about JTR for some time. Wasn't Lechmere a mortuary assistant? Is that correct? And he may have assisted with Annie Chapman? I always had my doubts about him but you've really challenged them with your post. I remember Tumblety having a collection of female reproductive organs and some Scotland Yard agents went to America after him (although that may not be related). I've never been fully convinced that sexuality necessarily negated a suspect. And with Kosminski it was the whole DNA thing from the shawl. The one thing that I do believe, however, is that whilst we can never prove beyond a reasonable doubt who JTR was, we can certainly prove who he was not, thus narrowing the field. You certainly know your stuff, though, so much respect for that.
@@hetaera3418 No. He was the Carman who lied about his name to the court and police. He was alone with Mary Nichol's body for almost 10 minutes. Check out "The missing evidence" documentary.
@@hetaera3418 I'm sorry if I sounded arrogant. I believe that Lechmere is the best suspect. My opinion. Have a great day!
A famous criminologist here in Sweden always says: "Hate the coincidence and keep it simple." Lechemere fits that theme.
There are probably a few hundred theories that would fit that theme. Still no evidence for Lechmere.
@@Jay-tk7ib You are missing my point.
@@00Kuja00 I don't think I missed it, but you are free to clarify.
@@Jay-tk7ib well "There are probably a few hundred theories that would fit that theme." is not a good argument. As far as I know, and others, there is not. And if there were, at least list two or three that would.
Secondly, we are not talking evidence here, but more of a way of thinking when it comes to crimes. People tend to over complicate things. That was my point.
@@00Kuja00 Yes, people tend to overcomplicate things but to use such a broad statement to prop up the Lechmere theory is meaningless.
I think it would be easier to list the theories with complexities. Every theory will have a certain amount of simplicity, as well as a degree of complexity, including the Lechmere theory.
Poor girl. Why oh why did she not just go home with her mother when she met her in the street,
Oh any number of reasons I guess.. but she would have had a bed. I wonder if it mentioned the mother's reaction upon identifying the corpse and. What I'd like to know is how would you present a dismembered bunch of body parts to a potential mother of someone for viewing??
Hearing someone refer to Benedict Arnold as a “hero of the American rebellion” makes me want to laugh. Being born an American, I have never heard him spoken of that way. We know he fought for the American side for several years, he should’ve been promoted for his work at the Battle of Saratoga, but was demoted and reprimanded instead because he broke rank and improvised from the original battle plans (his improvisations were one of the important reasons the Americans won that battle). But after he made an attempt to betray George Washington to the British forces, he’s been completely forgotten about over here as anything but a traitor, and his name has become a synonym for ‘Judas’ in our schoolbooks. Politics aside, I think it’s funny.
I thought it was funny too. I don't know if he was being funny, or, is that the way the British really see BA.
He's a traitor to America. Lol
Here in Canada we share your view. His name is synonymous with traitor. 👎🏻
What's funny about it?
@@357lockdownMost people here have never heard of him and couldn't care less even if they have.
Very well put together very informative 👏 that poor girl and her baby how awful x
Enjoyed the videos, but couldn't understand some of it because the sound was so low.--What about videos on the further murders of Jack the Ripper after Mary Kelly, or any murders that were the same as the Ripper's, murders
Her poor mother. That must’ve been horrifying when she had to come to identify what was left.
Dear Edward, it's evident that there is a connection between the two series of crimes, as you mentioned. If possible, I would appreciate your valuable insights regarding how Lechmere could have committed those crimes while working as a carman. Was he already involved in the cat's meat business at that time? Was it possible for him to have access to any kind of cart when he was not working? Is 'Charlie' merely another coincidence?
I can't find any references to the Spitzbergen terrier, it must have been some local name for a strain that has been lost.
I appreciate your efforts to bring attention to Charles Lechmere. It isn't just his strange behavior surrounding the first canonical murder, Polly Nichols I believe, it's also the far too coincidental way in which all the murders seem to fall between his route to home and work or his route to his mother's and his new home or his old route to work from when he lived nearer his mother. In modern investigations it seems obvious that lechmere would be a great suspect. Especially after he lied at the inquest about his earlier lies to the constable in order to get by him without being drawn into the investigation. I've come to believe that Lechmere probably is the ripper.
I know it's purely superficial but there is also something menacing about his older photo. He has absolutely dead cold eyes. Not in itself damning evidence but it hardly helps his cause.
Yes and some witnesses, I cannot remember who they were but two separate ones, one man and one female, described “weak eyes”, or eyes that were in some way quite odd. It does bring up Lechmere’s droopy eyes...
Found the witness!: J Best (Stride case) : “He had weak eyes. By that I mean sore eyes without eyelashes. I would recognize him anywhere.” This guy and his friend (Gardner, who corroborated this sighting of the couple at the pub) recognized the flower she had on her jacket. They are in my view the best witnesses of the entire case, and would easily have confounded Charles Cross (Lechmere) had he not been just another witness two murders prior.
@@wrathofatlantis2316 yup.. and a blotchy face as described to be seen with Kelly. Tried to share a link that clarified Chuck’s pic and analyzed his eyes and face in general but got deleted. I suppose if you search mark doran hats off 4.
EVIL LIES BEHIND LECHMERES EYES. A REAL CREEPY LOOKING FELLA. IT'S AS IF HE'S SAYING "I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T, IF ONLY THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW WHO I AM". VERY SMUG.
Wow another very informative video thank you.
Great stuff when can we expect the next video .? I believe there is more to come and Lechmere is involved somehow
Both informative and well presented
Hackney Hospital poorhouse on Homerton ... In 1860 a smallpox ward was built (labour was provided by the inmates) and, in 1866, ... In 1976 an Oncology Department with 2 wards was opened.
4:52 Benedict Arnold, hero of the American revolution? To you maybe, but a traitor to us. (Though I admit I like his recipe for eggs)
I'm glad you noticed that line...
One could still argue he was a hero for the United States since he was pivotal for American forces in the Battle of Saratoga which is widely regarded as the turning point in the Revolutionary War.
I think he was being facetious.
Dr Robert Knox involved in Burk and Hare body snatcher case Scotland moved to London around this time .Hare and Dr Knox were in London Dr Knox He continued working at the Cancer Hospital until shortly before his death on 20 December 1862, at 9 Lambe Terrace in Hackney.
What is that musical piece at the beginning?
Never mind, found it. Toccata and fugue in D minor by Bach.
Max played it for madam in Sunset Boulevard.
Been into jtr since i read my first jtrbook Stephen Knights The final solution with hindsght pure fantasy.Starting watching this today and im blown away with your video series absolutely brilliant thanks Edward.
Thank you
A question that comes to mind about the Polly Nichol's murder....why didn't Paul find it suspicious that Lechmere lied to Mizen about there being a policeman at the scene? Did he just go along with the lie?
Explanations are given in episode 2 on the Whitechapel Murders
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I just re-watched that episode, but it wasn't covered. There are conflicting reports on what Lechmere told Mizen. One of them being "You're wanted down there." So he may not have mentioned anything about being wanted by a "policeman".
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Can you point me to where you explained about Lechmere lying to Mizen?
@@jaygreenham
Sorry you are right - I said I would cover these issues in a future episode.
As for what Lechmere said or what Mizen claimed he had said, there are some truncated accounts which is what you are referring to. The Coroner went on to ask Lechmere if he had told Mizen he was wanted by another policeman to which Lechmere replied: 'no because there wasn't another policeman'. To paraphrase. It is beyond question that Mizen claimed Lechmere told him he was wanted by another policeman.
Bit this discussion is better had on the appropriate film.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanks. There are so many inconsistencies in the available records. It would be great to have them all compared and analysed further.
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Ed love the videos but you have to start wearing a microphone on the remote shots. It’s impossible to hear what you’re saying.
Ok if Lechmere was responsible for some if not all the torso murders. The next question to ask really is where was his; dare I say it. His workshop? He would have needed privacy for that sort of thing and time. Given he had a large family and family duties. He certainly couldn’t do it in the basement of his own home. So logically he would have needed to rent something out or some abandoned building close to his residence. Surely some in the family would have taken notice of his long absence and indeed he would have had to continue to work at Pickford's. Keeping up appearances.
Maybe somebody in the family DID note something. But what makes you think that they would necessarily take their observations to the police? Lechmeres wife Elizabeth got a substantial lot of money when Charles died. She had him buried in a paupers grave, and the saw to it that she herself ended up in the opposite end of that same cemetery, with a nice headstone when her time came. Is that proof of anything? No. But it IS a matter that lends itself very well to suggesting that she may have had her suspicions about her husband. London was the biggest metropolis on earth, and there would have been many places that could have worked as a bolthole for Lechmere, not least if he had the economic means to rent such a place. For example.
Thanks for this. Will you write a book about your research? Ever since the missing evidence doc I've been waiting for a book from your swedish friend but it never came out, to my knoweledge. Especially if your book Included a more precise bio of charles lechmere, if you are close to his descendants that could be a mine of information. Although he died 100 years ago. 100 years anniversary will be next month, on the 23rd of December.
Yes 100 years - I had forgotten that! A book will appear in due course!
@French blue8 well he died at 71 in 1920. Photography was invented in 1816. The first movie was shot by Leprince in the autumn of 1888 in Leeds, contemporaneous to the ripper crimes
ua-cam.com/video/nR2r__ZgO5g/v-deo.html
Would have been cool if Le Prince had put his camera in say miter square at the right time...
The photo of Lechmere was taken in 1912. The year of the Titanic sinking. There's an identical photo of his wife Elizabeth standing in the exact same place, taken on the same day, and same year.. Elizabeth lived to a ripe old age of 90. Also there's more photo's of his children and grandchildren. All will be shown in the future book.
@@susanclapp1721 great news! Hope there will also be clippings of the newspapers articles relating to bucks row's murder as well as the ones relating to the inquest. The contradictions, all different angles and so on...because for us it is impossible to find in detail...as well as info about thomas cross, the stepfather who was a cop and whose name Charles lechmere borrowed for some reason at the inquest (my guess is to gain sympathy from the police who might still have remembered him).and indeed the mother and the wife and children... cant wait...cheers!
@@susanclapp1721 So he died 100 years ago today right? (23/12/1920)
Does Hackney cancer hospital have a river running into the Thames at that time?
Off the topic of this video, but relevant to the previous one: NETFLIX just released a series about Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper). It gives the viewer background information on the victims and has interviews with surviving family members and Police officials.
He escalated rather fast after the official last ripper victim😳 🤣
If it’s JTR then why not just leave the bodies ? Cutting them up and disposing of them like this would require both time and privacy.
I still think the body parts were most likely to have been dropped off a barge or boat, and that the culprit for the torso Murders worked on the Thames in some capacity.
Then why were some parts inland? Particularly Pinchin Street.
And why cut them up instead of just throwing them overboard?
The dismemberment was clearly to assist in land based disposal.
These victims presumably had been taken somewhere, unsuspectingly, alive, a bolt hole of some sort, and killed there. Not killed in the street as for the standard ripper cases. Then the body had to be disposed of.
Maybe these were victims he'd managed to lure back to his home. And once killed they presented a problem of how to dispose of the bodies. The fact that he killed Mary Kelly indoors shows he wasn't bound to any one MO. It is entirely possible he lured some victims back to his home and killed them there. And if we total up the canonical victims with the torsos it's about a 50/50 split. Obviously killing them in the street where he could easily be discovered was hardly ideal and it seems plausible that his first choice would have been to do the deed in his home at his leisure.
@@mrdarren1045 GREAT ANALOGY THERE MATE.
You're reaching so far to tie any of this to Lechmere ... I don't see it.
Who then?
My god the London skyline at night looks like dystopian Tokyo all that’s missing are giant LED advertisement boards. What has happened to that Old English architecture? What has happened to British Charm?! Whoever are the city planners of London should be fired.
Where are you from? This has been an ongoing issue since the 50s, and London had it way better than Manchester and Birmingham.
Great video. Lechmere A very good suspect and is likely. I bet the real jack was someone we never heard of though
The description of the cuts really makes me think its the same killer with the poor pregnant girl
Which is so frustrating to trying to understand what he's saying
benedict arnold...."HERO" of the American Revolution LOLOL
Did Lechmere own his own cart or did he only use one at work???
I wonder what packaging he used .. canvas bags ? ..
I wonder if he mixed items he took from Whitechapel with the torso packages, urggh
"It sound as if these body parts were supposed too be found"!
U can't really understand what he's saying for the first few minutes do to him not speaking into the speaker
Were inoculations a thing in the 1880's ? Perhaps heroin needle marks/ scars ?
audio is awful.
EVERYONE WANTS A BOOK, HOW ABOUT A FULL MOVIE BASED ON THE LECHMERE SIDE INSTEAD OF THE DEAD IN THE WATER ROYAL THEORIES CONSTANTLY USED IN OTHER MOVIES. ROYAL FAMILY MEMBERS OLD AND NEW HAVE NO BRAIN CAPACITY TO PLAN SOMETHING LIKE JTR, ANYWAY, PRINCE ALBERT VICTOR WAS IN FRANCE AT THE TIME OF AT LEAST TWO OF THE MURDERS, UNLESS HE HAD A GREAT TRIBUTE ACT GOING AT THE TIME.
@@philipskalla4312 THERE IS THE THEORY THEY WERE TOGETHER BOTH IMPLICIT IN THE CRIMES, YOU ARE RIGHT THAT IM GETTING MIXED UP WITH SICKART,
Lechmere did all these killings...wasnt caught but just stopped?
Many serial killers do just stop
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 how do you know they are serial killers if they havent been caught?
@@kevinfitz8516
Because some were luckily caught many years after they has stopped such as the Golden State Killer
Some stop because they have to. We had a serial killer in Philadelphia. He killed 9-10 women in the 80s. He was never caught and the number one suspect moved and died.
"hero of the American rebellion Benedict Arnold is buried here" 😆 feckin Brits
Feking Americans you mean! Coming over here taking our grave spaces!
@@ryanwilson368 We would have gladly kept him and fired him up like a torch. No burial needed for that fellow.