To sum up: Level 1 2 months (Jan to Mar 2017) Level 3 11 months (Jan to Dec 2017) Level 4 1 year 5 months (Jan 2017 to June 2018) Level 6 4 years (Jan 2017 to Jan 2021)
Vietnamese here, our language is the closest to mandarin (not counting cantonese and other Chinese dialects), it's still took me 2 years of concentrated effort for hsk6. But hsk6 is just middle level on practical usage. For watching drama and douyin without subtitle, it took me another 2 years of leisurely watching Chinese anime weekly. Their writing system is truly a nightmare, but the reward of unlimited access to Chinese entertainment is well worth it
Videos like this are so much more motivating than the hundreds of comments of "i became fluent in six months!" When it takes me longer to learn Chinese than calculus, it makes me feel like i'm not wired for languages
for me the difference is the lack of material. for calculus you have a textbook. thats all you need. for something like german its so hard to get content. its all regionblocked and i cant seem to buy german books. i remember watching a german dub on netflix a while back. and the subtitles were different than what was being spoken.
I don't think you need the HSK Even as a native you can still suck at writing texts. Reading, listening and (speaking on a casual level) is enough lol.
i started chinese in china too . this is my second year of master degree and i found my self always studying chinese . i passed the hsk 5 after the first year of chinese program but still far from writing master thesis . so i would say don't do what i did hahahahah
And I was thinking I could become fluent in 2 years learning chinese as a hobby for like 2 hours a day after work. xD It's going to take way more than than...
@@tatendachirwa4575 its just literally studying Chinese everyday for a lot of hours, and the fact that the sholarship winners study in China, makes this process faster as they need to adapt quickly
I’ve spent about 100,000 hours studying English humor and Western culture, and many years studying Chinese culture. My native language is Chinese. I teach Chinese in humorous way and with cute pictures. Hope somebody recommend my videos to those who want to learn Chinese.
I'm Chinese, and it just so happens that I also need to pass the IELTS exam so if anyone wants to improve or even refine their Chinese language skills they can look me up.🤨🥰
Here is my plan...just buy the Pimsluer language audio CDs volume 1 thru 5 and listen to all the CDs.....forget learning to read or write Manderin Chinese, just learn to.speak and understand it....I have learned a lot just listening to the Pimsluer beginner manderin CDs......try it...!!!
Actually you get to a point where it becomes very difficult to build a large vocabulary without reading characters. I know at least 10 or 15 characters for Shi at HSK LVL 4, as conversation becomes more complex and specific it's easy to get lost. You also miss out on the ability to understand new words based on the characters used and how they appear in other words. That connection becomes massively important. I suggest adding just 5-10 minutes a day memorising characters as you learn conversational Chinese.
a very informative video, thanks. I have one question, I am currently studying my MSc in China, but i don't feel like i am interested in it anymore. so i have decided to pursue chinese language. however it turns out getting scholarship for language program is not as easy as for Engineering. Do you have any suggestions on how could i get a scholarship to study chinese?
I believe if someone arrived in China in 2017 having never studied Chinese and with nobody to help them, then even getting to a destination would have been very difficult.
Getting tones perfect is not needed. Its the context of the sentence that matters most. Chinese people will understand you even if you get it half right.
What did you do to improve your Chinese speaking level? If you were in the situation where you couldn't find someone to speak Chinese with , what would you you do to improve speaking? , I am now HSK 4 student but still my speaking is not good i keep failing HSKk but it's due to that i study alone and have no one to talk to
Same here. I'm almost done with hsk 4 but my speaking is rather poor. Too much of my early learning was focused on flashcards and apps and didn't really help my speaking
she mentioned in the video that she lived in china during that time (or perhaps still living there). you can practice your speaking skills through language exchange apps like hellotalk, etc.
Watch a lot of the like reality shows in chinese and just repeat back to it. Don’t learn speaking from official shows/movies etc bc that chinese is too formal? Idk how to explain in english lol
I've heard that In China they don't allow children to learn Pinyin until they're 6 years old they already know hundreds of characters, because it actually inhibits learning the language..
I’m a Chinese, I learned Pinyin since I was in kindergarten (I was 3 years old). Teachers always teach new 汉字Hanzi with Pinyin so the students can know how to pronounce. I think Pinyin is very helpful and a must to learn Chinese language.
@@williampennjr.4448 I just did a search and found that this law does exist now. But I think it is because the Chinese students are under a lot of competitive pressure, so the current education department tends to lighten the burden on children. In my opinion Pinyin is still necessary, it is definitely good for learning Chinese. Pinyin is also an important part of the primary school Chinese exam.
HSK6 is considered C2 yet it only has 5000 words, while C2 from Taiwan (TOCFL) has 8000 words. Also, the HSK exams have a very specific format that you can train for. I met many people who have HSK6 whose Chinese is atrocious, I assume they went through some heavy test training to be able to pass it. I am preparing myself for HSK5 now, even though I have been speaking Chinese for ten years already, but didn't take any exams yet. Feeling lazy to learn HSK6 vocabulary at the moment. Maybe some day.
@@bywonline No, in Europe HSK4 is considered B2 despite being so little vocabulary. This is one of the reasons they recently changed the whole HSK levels, making it more similar to the Taiwan TOCFL, because the old (but still used) HSK1-6 was not consistent with other languages levels.
@@bywonline "HSK4: Certificate of Chinese Is the fourth level, which is an intermediate level and is equivalent to level B2 of theCommon European Framework of Reference for Languages. Knowledge of 1,200 words is required in order to pass the exam."
I don't know but I would guess it would take longer to learn them together than one after another. It seems to me like going to the gym and wanting to loose weight while gaining muscle at the same time, it may work well at the beginning but in the long run you will have to focus on one thing to be efficient.
you need to memorize those, but sometimes i skip them and move to the next characters and after a few days, i get back to those. the tones are so confusing to hear and speak too. i do 4 hours class per week, and study up to 4 hours per day after work. 中文 is so hard... 加油你可以的!
@@toddjohnson271 couldn't agree more. my laoshi told me to at least remember the first and last tones for every sentences. that could help. because usually tones in the middle keep changing bc of the context.
@@naritul8438 I'm only at the point of adding vocabulary, learning hanzi, and tones. Brutally difficult. I can see why english is so hard for chinese. Complete opposites.
@@toddjohnson271 huft, i can diligently memorize hanzi but tones are on the next level. i am still figuring out how to memorize them. how long have you been learning chinese?
Actually, most Chinese are not mandarin native speakers, so most of them have a quite basic vocabulary. I don't think they could easily pass it, maybe only the university students.
In other words, the most painless and fastest way to learn Chinese is to be born from Chinese speaking parents. I'm kidding. I am learning Mandarin and even if it's difficult I enjoy it a lot.
Who says you have to learn to speak the whole language??? For travel to china or speaking Chinese in a restaurant all you need to do is learn enough to make small talk and communicate some .....thats enough.....it will get you by when you visit China.....😅😅
Hi, wondering how would someone who masters hsk4 grammar and has a large vocabulary of 25,000 words, compared to someone who masters hsk6 grammar but has a vocabulary of 5,000 words, go in china?
@@youneschebini5280 I’m at a low level speaking Chinese even though I’m going on four years of learning it and I’m more into some of their music! Do you have any favorite Chinese musicians if so who! Faye Wong is a favorite of mine! I’ll be learning mandarin for life!🫠
@@youneschebini5280 Younes, you caused me to do extra work which was fine! Wo zhidao wong fei, after discovering a few females chinese singers it's difficult for me to listen to men! I do have a few men songs but 98 percent or 99 is women! I'll give your guys a 👂 listen! Ni zhidao Zhang Wei Jia, if not give her a listen her awesome collection and breeze rain and Lei Ting 2018 album! Feng Fei Fei wo xihuan especially Zhang Sheng Xiang Qi! I got me a little bit! It would be too much work to pinyin this! Let me know what you think about Zhang wei jia and lei ting music! I do have a secret singer that I've compared to most great singers from different genre and she's still at my to! How well you write characters or hanzi? Thanks, hen feichang Xie Xie!
I don't know why yt keep recommanded Chinese learning video to me, whereas I have ZERO interests in learning Chinese...because it's my NATIVE TONGUE, ffs!
To sum up:
Level 1 2 months (Jan to Mar 2017)
Level 3 11 months (Jan to Dec 2017)
Level 4 1 year 5 months (Jan 2017 to June 2018)
Level 6 4 years (Jan 2017 to Jan 2021)
Really helpful! Thanks!!
and level 5?
Was looking for this. Thanks!
Wow! I probably need 50
Level 10(above hsk 9 system)UA-cam scammer : take 1 minutes if you know how to use photoshop and translate program❤❤
Vietnamese here, our language is the closest to mandarin (not counting cantonese and other Chinese dialects), it's still took me 2 years of concentrated effort for hsk6. But hsk6 is just middle level on practical usage. For watching drama and douyin without subtitle, it took me another 2 years of leisurely watching Chinese anime weekly. Their writing system is truly a nightmare, but the reward of unlimited access to Chinese entertainment is well worth it
Vietnamese too, begin from the scratch and try to learn it. Thanks for your sharing
@@nhiphanthithanh9319 no problem, 遇到问题可以问问我
Vietnamese here, thank you for sharing, it took me 6 months to HSK2, I'm learning HSK3, thank you for sharing
@@nhatkyblackpink8248 没问题😁😁
Good on you!
Videos like this are so much more motivating than the hundreds of comments of "i became fluent in six months!" When it takes me longer to learn Chinese than calculus, it makes me feel like i'm not wired for languages
for me the difference is the lack of material. for calculus you have a textbook. thats all you need.
for something like german its so hard to get content. its all regionblocked and i cant seem to buy german books.
i remember watching a german dub on netflix a while back. and the subtitles were different than what was being spoken.
I'm so glad i learn for fun and have no interest in the HSK exams
Same
I want to learn chinese and do the HSK for fun.
Me too 😏is fun
I don't think you need the HSK
Even as a native you can still suck at writing texts.
Reading, listening and (speaking on a casual level) is enough lol.
It is NOT how long does it take to reach HSK 6, it is how many HOURS of study each day does it take to reach HSK 6 .. Two different things 😊😊
i started chinese in china too . this is my second year of master degree and i found my self always studying chinese . i passed the hsk 5 after the first year of chinese program but still far from writing master thesis . so i would say don't do what i did hahahahah
And I was thinking I could become fluent in 2 years learning chinese as a hobby for like 2 hours a day after work. xD
It's going to take way more than than...
Hahaha This is true.
It's already been two years for me and I'm still at hsk 3/4.
Its possible to do it in 1 year (HSK6), but you'd need to follow the same routine that Chinese Government Scholarship winners follow
@@cristhianch.9846 hey ! And Which routine is that ?? Would you happen to know ?
vocab, vocab, vocab.......and tones. Then you can understand and speak on a most basic level.
@@tatendachirwa4575 its just literally studying Chinese everyday for a lot of hours, and the fact that the sholarship winners study in China, makes this process faster as they need to adapt quickly
Got my HSK 3 results today. It took about 3,5 years. I studied Chinese next to my full time job. Hope to reach HSK 6 one day too... :)
你是哪国人。 我是越南人。
I'm a student from China, learning English. I can help with you Chinese.
i start to learn chinese soon, maybe we could help each other
Sara how to contact you?
at the rate I'm learning, about 30 years.
So relatable
Brave and adventurous... and successful young Lady! Respect! Keep going! There are no limits for perfection! Shining role model! Follow you!
I’ve spent about 100,000 hours studying English humor and Western culture, and many years studying Chinese culture. My native language is Chinese. I teach Chinese in humorous way and with cute pictures.
Hope somebody recommend my videos to those who want to learn Chinese.
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Subscribed!
I just want to read in Chinese...that's all.
You have such good energy. You excude a light that I cannot put in words. I think it's your eyes but also your articulation❤
I'm Chinese, and it just so happens that I also need to pass the IELTS exam so if anyone wants to improve or even refine their Chinese language skills they can look me up.🤨🥰
Do you have hsk 7_8_9 I want it please how can download for free
Here is my plan...just buy the Pimsluer language audio CDs volume 1 thru 5 and listen to all the CDs.....forget learning to read or write Manderin Chinese, just learn to.speak and understand it....I have learned a lot just listening to the Pimsluer beginner manderin CDs......try it...!!!
the big problem is, you'll need to read or write for business or work, or anything !
Actually you get to a point where it becomes very difficult to build a large vocabulary without reading characters. I know at least 10 or 15 characters for Shi at HSK LVL 4, as conversation becomes more complex and specific it's easy to get lost. You also miss out on the ability to understand new words based on the characters used and how they appear in other words. That connection becomes massively important. I suggest adding just 5-10 minutes a day memorising characters as you learn conversational Chinese.
a very informative video, thanks.
I have one question, I am currently studying my MSc in China, but i don't feel like i am interested in it anymore. so i have decided to pursue chinese language. however it turns out getting scholarship for language program is not as easy as for Engineering. Do you have any suggestions on how could i get a scholarship to study chinese?
How did you manage to get the MSc scholarship, mind pointing me in the right direction
I believe if someone arrived in China in 2017 having never studied Chinese and with nobody to help them, then even getting to a destination would have been very difficult.
It’s taken me many years. Jiā yóu xué zhōngwén!
Getting tones perfect is not needed. Its the context of the sentence that matters most. Chinese people will understand you even if you get it half right.
Learn to sing some Chinese songs as well. This should motivate you to learn Chinese more quickly and effectively.
What did you do to improve your Chinese speaking level? If you were in the situation where you couldn't find someone to speak Chinese with , what would you you do to improve speaking? , I am now HSK 4 student but still my speaking is not good i keep failing HSKk but it's due to that i study alone and have no one to talk to
watch videos in chinese and see the subtitles in the same time imitate the speaker
Same here. I'm almost done with hsk 4 but my speaking is rather poor. Too much of my early learning was focused on flashcards and apps and didn't really help my speaking
she mentioned in the video that she lived in china during that time (or perhaps still living there). you can practice your speaking skills through language exchange apps like hellotalk, etc.
Watch a lot of the like reality shows in chinese and just repeat back to it. Don’t learn speaking from official shows/movies etc bc that chinese is too formal? Idk how to explain in english lol
Force yourself to watch Chinese youtubers every day for at least 20 minutes. For speaking, get an online teacher.
I've heard that In China they don't allow children to learn Pinyin until they're 6 years old they already know hundreds of characters, because it actually inhibits learning the language..
I’m a Chinese, I learned Pinyin since I was in kindergarten (I was 3 years old). Teachers always teach new 汉字Hanzi with Pinyin so the students can know how to pronounce. I think Pinyin is very helpful and a must to learn Chinese language.
@@sigalz I don't know when they made the law, but that's what a lot of sources say.
@@williampennjr.4448 I just did a search and found that this law does exist now. But I think it is because the Chinese students are under a lot of competitive pressure, so the current education department tends to lighten the burden on children.
In my opinion Pinyin is still necessary, it is definitely good for learning Chinese. Pinyin is also an important part of the primary school Chinese exam.
@@sigalz Wow....I always thought pinyin was for western speakers. Do all chinese students learn the english alphabet?
@@toddjohnson271 Yes, in public primary schools, Chinese students learn Pinyin from the 1st grade and English from the 3rd grade.
I have modest goals, HSK-1, perhaps level 2 tops
Dont want to upset you.But with HSK 2 you can only speak like 3 years old.😊
From zero to HSK4 is quite easy, you can do it.
i want to do certifications in chinese...so what's the process of doing this...can nyone tell me...I'm highly obligedddd
I'm a foot away from my grave, and I probably never reach to level 6 unfortunately!
Damn, sounds extremely hard.
This video is super discouraging lol
“Maybe when I reach HSK9, I’ll feel more comfortable with my Chinese” That phrase just killed me
HSK6 is considered C2 yet it only has 5000 words, while C2 from Taiwan (TOCFL) has 8000 words. Also, the HSK exams have a very specific format that you can train for. I met many people who have HSK6 whose Chinese is atrocious, I assume they went through some heavy test training to be able to pass it. I am preparing myself for HSK5 now, even though I have been speaking Chinese for ten years already, but didn't take any exams yet. Feeling lazy to learn HSK6 vocabulary at the moment. Maybe some day.
@@bywonline No, in Europe HSK4 is considered B2 despite being so little vocabulary. This is one of the reasons they recently changed the whole HSK levels, making it more similar to the Taiwan TOCFL, because the old (but still used) HSK1-6 was not consistent with other languages levels.
@@bywonline "HSK4: Certificate of Chinese Is the fourth level, which is an intermediate level and is equivalent to level B2 of theCommon European Framework of Reference for Languages. Knowledge of 1,200 words is required in order to pass the exam."
嗨，你要跟我交朋友吗，所以我们可以一起聊天儿，我水平才在hsk3/4 可是不太懂语法。
@@Vielert" 你要跟我交朋友吗?我们可以一起聊天. 虽然我的中文有大概hsk3/4的程度,但还是不太懂语法。"
It'll be smoother in this way. Trust me.
Maybe when I reach HSK9, I’ll feel more comfortable with my Chinese. That phrase just killed me: I’ll never be fluent in Chinese after hearing that
Very clear, very reasonable.
How long does it take to learn chinese and japanese languages all together?
I don't know but I would guess it would take longer to learn them together than one after another. It seems to me like going to the gym and wanting to loose weight while gaining muscle at the same time, it may work well at the beginning but in the long run you will have to focus on one thing to be efficient.
2 lifes
Who doesn't have yellow fever😂@JoshPecksDad
How to remember the tones of every chinese word?
you need to memorize those, but sometimes i skip them and move to the next characters and after a few days, i get back to those. the tones are so confusing to hear and speak too. i do 4 hours class per week, and study up to 4 hours per day after work. 中文 is so hard... 加油你可以的!
@@naritul8438 I can not make the difference listening. tones are so difficult.
@@toddjohnson271 couldn't agree more. my laoshi told me to at least remember the first and last tones for every sentences. that could help. because usually tones in the middle keep changing bc of the context.
@@naritul8438 I'm only at the point of adding vocabulary, learning hanzi, and tones. Brutally difficult. I can see why english is so hard for chinese. Complete opposites.
@@toddjohnson271 huft, i can diligently memorize hanzi but tones are on the next level. i am still figuring out how to memorize them. how long have you been learning chinese?
How many hours a day is "less intense"? How many hours a day is "intense"? ignoring productivity of course? Asking for a friend.
So you think most native Chinese speakers could pass HSK 6?
Most younger could it's their native language!
@@davidgivins4203 I get that. I just think if I had to take an English exam that I'd probably fail miserably.
Actually, most Chinese are not mandarin native speakers, so most of them have a quite basic vocabulary. I don't think they could easily pass it, maybe only the university students.
U r brilient👍👍👍😊
Where do you take the HSK test?
In other words, the most painless and fastest way to learn Chinese is to be born from Chinese speaking parents. I'm kidding. I am learning Mandarin and even if it's difficult I enjoy it a lot.
How old were you when you started? I’m scared I won’t have time.
It's never too late!
Mine status
Hsk 1 15 days
HSk 2 15 days
Hsk 3 2 months
HSk 4 in progress
2 month HSK3? Are u already a Chinese?
@@Micha661988dễ mà
Who says you have to learn to speak the whole language??? For travel to china or speaking Chinese in a restaurant all you need to do is learn enough to make small talk and communicate some .....thats enough.....it will get you by when you visit China.....😅😅
Using App like Sogou keyboard
Hi, wondering how would someone who masters hsk4 grammar and has a large vocabulary of 25,000 words, compared to someone who masters hsk6 grammar but has a vocabulary of 5,000 words, go in china?
nobody with 25000 words could ever be stuck at HSK4
what do you mean HSK8? does that even exist?
i speak fluently but i'm suck on writing
Your not alone! 99 % of foreigners learning Chinese can't write characters! 😊
@@davidgivins4203It's not about handwriting, it's more about the difficulty of choosing the right words for a given context.
@@youneschebini5280 I’m at a low level speaking Chinese even though I’m going on four years of learning it and I’m more into some of their music! Do you have any favorite Chinese musicians if so who! Faye Wong is a favorite of mine! I’ll be learning mandarin for life!🫠
@@davidgivins4203 nice ! i like chinese pop classics songs too, like 周杰伦、刘德华、汪峰、刘若英、王菲、风飞飞、张学友、程响 and more and more ........
@@youneschebini5280 Younes, you caused me to do extra work which was fine! Wo zhidao wong fei, after discovering a few females chinese singers it's difficult for me to listen to men! I do have a few men songs but 98 percent or 99 is women! I'll give your guys a 👂 listen! Ni zhidao Zhang Wei Jia, if not give her a listen her awesome collection and breeze rain and Lei Ting 2018 album! Feng Fei Fei wo xihuan especially Zhang Sheng Xiang Qi! I got me a little bit! It would be too much work to pinyin this! Let me know what you think about Zhang wei jia and lei ting music! I do have a secret singer that I've compared to most great singers from different genre and she's still at my to! How well you write characters or hanzi? Thanks, hen feichang Xie Xie!
Excellent 😢
Speaking fluent chinese for a foreigner is impossible.
Just like the rule of only one chinese communist party which is never ending 😂
do you live in China?
How istart
Damn, I have been on HSK1 for four months now, lol ...
I started a month ago and I’m still as HSK 1 because of school. I really want to learn chinese so I find time to learn
Hi, excuse me, how can I marry you to be fluent in chinese?? please guide me!!
I don't know why yt keep recommanded Chinese learning video to me, whereas I have ZERO interests in learning Chinese...because it's my NATIVE TONGUE, ffs!
What is the HSK ?
Bằng chứng chỉ kiểu thông thảo tiếng trung . Có nó mới đi du học ở bên trung được
A Chinese level test, like IELTS in English.
What's HSK 6?
Bằng chứng chỉ tiếng trung
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Pakistan China Brothers
anyone notice crazy eyes
Ummm one of the things we noticed yes...
The girl is gorgeous
Dude... It's a medical thing caused by Grave's disease
@@wwnleather Thank you, crazy eyes is rude as hell. SMH
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i really disagree with every next level being 'twice as hard'. The tones, and patterns in hanzi, should become easier and easier