Rise of the Ronin | Samurai Game Review
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- This is my full review for Rise of the Ronin! One of the most interesting samurai games I have ever played, with a unique tale set during the turbulent Bakumatsu period! Let us discuss what makes this game so fascinating!
I would like to thank Sony and PlayStation for providing me a review copy of the game.
Timestamps:
Intro 0:00
The Many Positives 2:40
The Negative 11:39
Comparisons 21:04
Rating and Conclusion 26:23
Rise of the Ronin was developed by Team Ninja and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment.
All music in the video is from the Rise of the Ronin official soundtrack.
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so the best game would combine the story of "Like a Dragon Isshin" with the combat of "Rise of the Ronin" and the graphics of "Ghost of Tsushima"?
I'd play that
Was there any claim in this video that this is the best game?
@@ajcubarrubia2350 no theyr3 saying Rise combat elements would be good for a samurai gams
I'll definitely be giving this a go whenever it's released for PC
Will it be though?
I wouldn't do that. All recent Team Ninja/Tecmo games run like poop on pc.
@@grimmhavenit will probably be like 4 or 5 years but I'm assuming it'll make its way there sooner or later
@@grimmhavenlikely, Sony had a recent trend of releasing their “exclusives” on the steam store.
prolly gonna be a typical tecmo trash port HAHA
This is the best and most straightforward non biased review of this game I’ve seen! This video convinced me to get the game. Would you ever consider doing another channel for game reviews?
I've considered it!
@@TheShogunate that would be awesome either way I can’t wait to see your thoughts on assassins creed red!!
Define "non-biased"?
The early 2020’s trilogy of 8/10 samurai games
what are the other two lmao? inshin and ghost of tsushima?
Ghost of tsushima is far better than this game lmao
@@mcbill7352 he rated them all 8/10 🤷♂️
@@mcbill7352 GOT is a high key masterpiece. It's an oil painting.
@@cinemapigeon4898it’s also 90% fantasy
@@cinemapigeon4898it’s a great game yeah sure. It’s not perfect though. I got bored with the story both times I played it and It’s too easy.
This, on the other hand was hard.
After watching the full review: I hope for DLC that might allow different endings. That seems like the best possible way to do DLC for this game. No idea how feasible that is, but it'd be nice to actually have some player agency.
Haven't finished game yet, but how the heck does it not have multiple endings!
Way of the Samurai 2 was amazing, sadly another underrated gem but glad you mention the entire series
I love wots. I would kill for to have the first 2 ported on console
The Bakumatsu era is so underrated. I'm working on a comic/story in this time period that I'm probably never going to finish, so it was cool to see it brought to life in this game.
Been waiting for this!
I agree with you 100%. I also enjoyed the game in every step but the story. Siding with the shogunate, getting to help the famous Shinsengumi, for then being forced to fight them either way...to then being forced to infiltrate their ranks, as if I didn't just joined them...was weird and frustrating. Either way, meeting so many important figures of every faction was pretty amazing.
I'm really looking forward to your videos about the Bakumatsu, by far my favorite period of Japan/samurai history. Keep up your work, I can't get enough of your videos!
Matthew Perry looks like a Templar from assassins creed
Tbh he no doubt would be one
Agreed. I really feel Assassin’s Creed got beaten to the punch by not setting their upcoming game in this period. It would have been a perfect fit.
@@gimmiebanana5560 the next AC game that will premiere in the summer will be set in 15th century Japan
@notadogonachain1322 lemme guess it will be a historicallly inaccurate ninja game, and Oda Nobunaga will be a Templar and the antagonist.
@@abc4781 From what little we know, it looks like you might be right.
@@abc4781 I mean that's a ubisoft game so it's very easy to know what to expect from it. I generally agree with you but am not so sure about Oda Nobunaga, considering that one of the protagonists is gonna be Yasuke, a black samurai who served Obunaga...
10/10 let’s go.
It’s beautiful. Ghost of Tsushima is a masterpiece and this is a Japanese developer response to Ghost of Tsushima.
Nioh open world was a dream come true!
WAS, because I already finished it. Truly hope they come out of nowhere and give us DLC.
It would be the perfect end to get a final DLC of the Battle of Shiroyama. For the game that ended the isolation of Japan to also end with the end of Samurai. Now that would be a sight to see.
On the other hand, perhaps Rise of Ronin doesn’t deserve a DLC, but rather a sequel, so they might save that for the end of the next game.
Nioh had a challenge here as well. The first game ended with the end of Sengoku era. So Nioh 2 was a prequel for the most part. And it comes with 0 surprise that Nioh 3 has been confirmed to not be coming any time soon, which isn’t bad because the Nioh series ended perfectly and it’s soul does live on in games like Rise of the Ronin.
That felt like a very thorough review, and once they patch the optimization a bit I'll definitely pick it up. What I long for are high quality Bushido Blade and Tenchu reboots.
After hearing your review on rise of the Ronin I'm definitely going to pick this up when I get a PS5 especially after hearing the comparisons to Way of the samurai, I've been waiting for a samurai game to scratch that itch for many years and no game has done it .
I love this review and I agree with almost everything you said, the story didn’t disappoint me as much at first because it does pick up some momentum in the 2nd act. But, like you, I tried to play the pro-shogunate side, but the game made me help out everyone. Even when you just fought and betrayed someone, 5mins later they’re like “I need your help with something”, and I’m like “lol do you not care that I almost just killed you?”
For me the biggest problem I had with the game was the character who is not really a silent protagonist, and I kept getting startled anytime they spoke because I thought they had no opinion (but mine) about the story.
Why do they make choose and customise our character’s voice when they’re rarely speak throughout the game. If they had given the character his own personality like Jin Sakai from Tsushima I would be giving this game a 9/10, but as it stands I also give it an 8.
This is going to be a good review
As someone who has recently been playing nioh 2 ( haven’t played 1 and from what I heard from friends I don’t think I will) I am now interested in this game. I have over 140 hrs and has cleared 2 difficulties in nioh 2 am on the 3rd harder one , I love the customization and combat. Hearing that the amount of customization there is in rise of the ronin from you now makes me interested in the game. Whenever I get the opportunity to get the game I will since you hyped me up for it now.
Thanks for the review!
In my playthrough I chose anti-shogunate since those are the first guys I met in the games and the story proceeds smoothly. I basically ignored any bond mission with the shinsengumi since I think it is not the time to engage into them. It seems that my way is the best to enjoy the story of this game.
I ordered the game , based on your review. More great Kontent!
7:37 Love that you stayed away from those traitors in Satsuma and Choshu
Nioh 2 also allows you to decorate the hut and have passive bonuses from furniture :)
Great review! I also bought a PS5 to play Rise of the Ronin! The game is arriving today.
Great review. I was mainly anti shōgun and the chapter 3 felt a bit better but it was still odd working with Katsu and being friendly with Yoshinobu in chapter 2 and my anti shōgun bros didn't seem to care. Overall i agree i enjoyed the rest of the game, combat was super fun.
I give the game a 9.5/10 because I love open world games, and the Samurai. The Odachi is my favorite weapon in the game. And even though I have 4 Katana’s of my own, all fully functional and one made in Japan… I so want to own an ODACHI ! I’m glad the story is fast, because I’m more into exploration in games, than a lengthy story. Just give me good cut scenes and I’m happy.
I just finished playing the game today after a playthrough of about 65 or so hours. I tried to finish all the side content the game had to offer. I find myself agreeing with you completely in regards to the story of the game. I went pro-shogunate too, and felt like I was blindsided when I helped Sakamoto Ryōma establish the alliance between the Satsuma and Choshu. That and pretending as if I’m meeting the Shinsengumi for the first time. Otherwise, the gameplay was utterly fantastic. The combat was difficult, but not anger-inducing (except for one side mission). I hope they release DLC or other content for this game. Because I really enjoyed my time with it.
this looks really cool. Thanks for the in-depth review! I can sort of see what people mean about the graphics, since it doesn't have that artistic lighting that we saw in Ghost of Tsushima. But given the scope of the game I'm willing to be forgiving on that count
This looks amazing! If it ever comes to steam, I will buy it day 1.
Though the story not letting you choose a side but have to do both is kinda sad..
I've also wanted a game similar to way of the samurai.
Ubisoft just announced Assassin's Creed Shadows featuring Yasuke as one of the main characters as well as Oda Nobunaga appearance in the new reveal trailer, wondering if you would make a video on that, the story also explores Samurai and Shinobi Origins to some extent. Love to see your take on this!
If Edo is a map I only have one question: Is Masakado's Kubizuka there and what does it look like? This would be before they built the Finance Ministry and tore down the hill so it should be there in all it's glory.
Edit: I have now bought the game and made it to the point you can free explore Edo:
Masakado's Kubizuka is probably not in the game because the Sakai Clan mansion where it was located in 1860 was inside the grounds of Edo Castle and the game does not appear to let you go there blocking it off behind non climbable walls.
I hate these games where you end up sorting through like 700 pieces of gear, I can’t get attached to anything because I have to swap it out soon anyway. I don’t even bother crafting anything because the stats are usually higher on random stuff I get from enemies like 5 minutes later anyway.
Coming from other Team Ninja games (Nioh 2, Wo Long, and Strangers of Paradise) as I don't have a PS5 for RotR, usually for your first/NG playthrough you don't need to worry about investing too much into your loot, mostly looking for the most defense/attack values on your appropriate weapon types. This comes on through the NG+ cycle which I've heard the game does unlock a difficulty on completing the story which I'll assume is that NG+ playthrough. This is where you start investing into gear, blacksmithing, and other related mechanics to make a build to push the game to its limits, for the DLC they add in extra NG+ cycles alongside the DLC story content, expanding the loot system with new rarities and systems to further help with pushing the limits of your build or maybe pivot into a new build as new mechanics/sets catch your fancy.
and they don't mean to. Just update your gear when you feel it is needed. In fact I am in Region 3 and still using the katana that I got from the very beginning.
Gotta love it when you spend a lot of money and resources on upgrading and then find a similar item way higher 5 minutes later.
@@Guest-sc8zvmakes sense
That's my favorite aspect of this game, I hate traditional equipment systems, it's boring, having random loot is way better and far more realistic
Im happy you brought way of the samurai into this as i love every game in the series and wish we could get wots5 but i do smile while playing this game with its similarities of wots . And i do agree i would like how different decisions gave different outcomes like wots games
I would say the point on the graphics I have to sadly agree. But I am heavily biased and only have a PS4. So it is more in the sense that the graphics I see do not justify not making it accessible to more people. Aka I want to play it too.
I was so nervous coz I just bought the game after watching some clips. Then when I already got the disc, thats when I started checking out reviews. There were a constant 7/10 reviews for this game, and I saw a silver lining when you gave this an 8. Thank you for clearly pointing out the major problem if the game which is the story. Perhaps, its just like Assasins Creed Oddyssey, wherein choices and factions don't really matter. I'm more of an immersing type of player. Enjoying the graphics, combat, music/sound effects and character. I will start playing this game later, alongside my time with Dragons Dogma 2
I hope it comes to PC eventually. Team Ninja seems to keep things exclusive for a year or so, which is rough wait.
Been excited for this yessss
God, I hope I get a ps5 soon
Finished my first play through at ~80 hours and absolutely loved it. If there was a true NG+ (hopefully in a future update) I’d play through again on a harder difficulty with my upgrades
Thank you for the in-depth review of the game it really does look good. I agree with the graphics being a little off or not up to new typical gaming standards. However I can let that go also the very few inaccurate things you mentioned about the game as well.
Here I am watching this game on "47 Ronin " and it looks so real and just a little bit animated but this looks like something I would be interested in since I'm into the Martial Arts (early 1970's) and I'm wondering if it's expensive to get the equipment.I know you have to have a TV which I do,a 13"anolog.
I love the Way of the Samurai series, and this game is literally the next installment of it. Love it!
I’d give the game a 9/10 warts and all! The combat is so fun! I love the world they crafted, superb gameplay, character customisation, beautiful at times with amazing music! Another huge plus is once I finished ghosts, great as it was, I never replayed it! I’m already starting another run on ronin.
The story thing is common in the Nioh franchise honestly. Specially in Nioh 2, you are introduced to characterz pretty much throughout the game and they don't really amount to anything of note. The story in these games is really jist there to give you contrxt and to be set dressing, its all about gameplay.
I bought the game because of your review. I'm having an absolute blast. A purely epic and satisfying game for anyone obsessed with pre modern japan like we all are here.
Good review Shogunate! I like more Ghost of Tsushima but I love Rise of the Ronin as well! I agree the story is convoluted and the gameplay is too difficult… there may not be any fantasy elements, but enemies move as if they were dragon ball Z, unrealistically fast… and it is not entirely grounded, that is why despite being this an amazing game, I prefer Ghost of Tsushima as is more grounded.
I will play Rise of the Ronin for many years to come and I will just skip dialogue to focus on the fantasy of exploring, as a Ronin, Yokohama, Edo, and Kyoto. This game is superb… thanks for the review!
Finally! Somebody finally said “way of the samurai” it’s basically what the 5th version would be
Will you be making a series about the Bakumatsu period and the Meiji Era ?
Bakumatsu yes!
looks fun! Ghost of Tsushima reminds me of Tenchu so much! n this looks like Way of Samurai
I am liking this game more and more the fact u work for both factions kind of reminds me of the game Bladestorm where u do missions for the English and the French, I always sided with the English if I had a choice and reluctantly did missions for the French, I do plan to buy the PS5 at some point for both this and FFVII Rebirth, loving all the armour and clothing looks and weapons u can use I look forward to mastering all the weapons styles unlike Bladestorm though I plan to go 2 playthroughs if not more so I can see what happens for the Pro and Anti Shogunate factions.
so update, after this review, ive hit 100 hours, 100% the game just about (need to do some trophy clean up) I adored everything about this game. the combat was brutal and visceral. I fell in love with every character, romanced like 3 of them. and while the story was a little weak, I personally loved how it felt like you were changing japan (in my playthrough which was anti shogun.)
even the collectibles were good.
I feel old, didn’t realize way of the samurai was back in the ps2 days. But that game was epic, I’m sad I missed out on way of the samurai 3.
Piyonosu's piligrim dog, I keep meeting this dog all the time =D Guess I cut down actual character a few times too.
And I believe you're correct about the story. At some point I just embraced my "sidekick" role in all of this: yes, I'm there, I participate in the events but they're going to unfold in a specific way regardless because it's a game based on a specific period of history. Still pretty interested to see it, though even if as a mere sidekick. The same goes for bonding with other characters to get to know their stories: I'm a bit of completionist maniac, so after 96h spent I'm still only half-way through Edo main storyline.
8\10 is quite fair rating I'm completely agree with too. Not a perfect game, but certainly enjoyable in almost every aspect
Just bought the game few days ago and i fkn love it
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That house customization feature with characters bonuses comes straight from Nioh 2.
Rise of the Ronin is basically Nioh 3 minus yokai.
you can find William as a hidden boss, he's wearing Yasuke's armor and holding onto Nobunaga's swords.
Seems very interesting, lots of cool mechanics and features. The Bakumatsu period is a little too modern for my tastes, but I would give it a try. When I see Europeans in old Japan I get the ick, LOL!
I love this game it's quite amazing. I enjoy games like this we need way more
Rise of the Ronin I believe is a masterpiece, I loved the combat, story and open world. Played nearly 90 hours and obtained the Platinum Hoping we get a true new game plus option in the near future.
The relationship stuff makes me think of Onimusha 2 (loved that game)
You should play Sekiro. Would love to hear your review on it. Even more so since it’s a goty winner
I think another way they could've fixed the story issue, is have you play both twins. One pro-shogunate, the other anti-shogunate. That way the developers would still have their entire story told and you're not forced to go through tedious missions that don't make any sense.
Red Dead Samurai 👍
I’ve played Way of the Samurai 3. Incredibly weird but playable game, but always worthy of a mention for Samurai Games
Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut is a 10/10 masterpiece. I literally just replayed it and it actually might be the best game ever made.
We were robbed of President Tokugawa Yoshinobu timeline
IF ONLY this came out on PC, I would've bought it already. This makes me want to play Way of the Samurai 3, how's the PC port for it?
It's an Amazing game. Hope more ppl Will try It. Lot of fun and samurai history.
I wrote this game off when I saw a screenshot with a glider. I don’t think that has any business in a purportedly historical game, but it sounds like there might be enough good in this to help me get over it.
I initially found it very odd that I was forced to play both sides of the fence... I thought they were going to make it a Yojimbo situation where you’re your own man, but very quickly I started feeling agitated that I didn’t indeed have the freedom to play my own way and had to do both sides regardless of how I felt.., and it just made me check out of the story unfortunately…but other than that the game has been fantastic. I wish the world had more animals or a few other things going on, when moving around many times it felt a bit empty, but it was a wonderful experience, besides the false hope of a story that they trick you with 😝
so many GOT comparison in this game when they are so different. GOT is base on 13th century invasion of Mongol and Rise of Ronin is 19th century (also the places where they occur in Japan). Sekiro is probably base on Sengoku Jidai (Nioh 2). We can play all of them to be engage and immerse on Japanese history, cultures and traditions via gaming.
Way of the samurai 4 is fantastic, nice, contained and has plenty of choice, I couldn't really get into 3, it's a bit too chaotic in implementation. It's a shame the first two aren't on steam.
I absolutely love team ninjas random loot system, its so much better than fromsoftwares traditional equipment systems which i find extremely boring, everytime i play a fromsoftware game i get the same equipment the same way everytime i play, at least with team ninjas games i dont have to start over or go through hoops to respec to use different weapons, i can just use whatever i want, not to mention the combat in team ninjas games is far more fast paced, fluid and much smoother than the clunky and slow combat from fromsoftwares games
Damn I just finished in at 100 hours 🤣 it’s great imo I loved every minute of it. It took me a minute because I was trying to master as many combat skills as I could with the material available at the time so I like did all the side quests, public orders, shrines and building bonds.
I’d get so excited and satisfied every time I had enough to increase bonds with certain people to get the master level. Shit I even became bisexual in the game because Ryomas gift for making a veiled bond with him is OP 🤣
Anyway I was skeptical about it at first but I’m glad I bought it. Great experience. Especially because I know a little about Japanese history and am interested in it made it more interesting. I already knew most of the main cast from anime like Gintama. For those that know that show, your character is exactly like Gintoki. You even get the option to even join the Infamous Shinsengumi and learn about their origins. 10/10
Also imma leave y’all with the unpopular opinion that the visuals were great imo. Those that were saying it looks like a ps3 game were all liars. 🤷♂️
I’d really like to see an alternative universe version of this game that’s level based, with a linear narrative and Ryoma as the sole protagonist - feels like something that’s more up Team Ninja’s alley which makes me wonder if that’s what the game was originally supposed to be. I know it sounds like a tin foil hat take but that’s just the feeling I get sometimes while playing it.
Edit: Also, who’s your blade twin based on? Looks like Yoshida Toyo from Ishin
I didn't really base my blade twin on anyone haha.
Great review! It’s a more arcade dark souls imo
What a glorious mustache he has!
I'm so confused what you would have against AC tropes in Shadows, but be all about this?
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That statement just made IGN jealous with envy.
I spent 81 hours on this game and loving every single moment of it, especially maxing the bonds of characters and romancing some of them to build my harem
Of course the world would be betterm you not stuck on a small island. RotR get the full japan to play with so you get more historical locations. GoT on had 2 small islands in a time before japan had really built itself up through warring. Its like being stuck in 1856 iowa and being shocked its not like 2010 New York.
The story killed this game for me, im still gonna finnish it and play a 2nd play through but knowing no matter what i do the story moves along the all the same and no matter what side i did all these major events for the other side still welcomes me in with open arms like nothing even happened. I join the shinsengumi and was hunting down the anti shogun. The other side knew this and even fought against me in some of these missions and still was buddy buddy with me. Im like you know im with shinsengumi and you do know i was just hunting yall down and choose the cut you down option but the game keeping you alive is the only reason you are alive right. Im in full shinsengumi gear as im talking to yall inside your base 😂
10 hours in and my favorite samurai game yet. Just wish it had more story focus.
I just wish and pray that this game comes to PC one day...
I got the platinum tropy. It's rough around the edges but it still might be the best samurai game to date.
Better than Ghost?
A shadowy group of assassin? Huh, I know this group, they are called The Assass... Oh wrong video 😂. Anyway, hope you will do this type of video for AC red when it releases at the end of this year
I am doing everything in the game, every map marker, every quest , testing out all, mastering the different dojos and mini games , I really hope for dlc and cross over with nioh and wu long, I want wu long martial art stance and nioh 2 demons in a few event quests and bosses for fun
They are already set in the same canon. We don't need every game set in pre mordern Japan to be about fighting demons and monsters.
@@deathtoraiden2080 yet nioh 2 is the superior game here :) and using crossovers is often done from team ninja
@@MikkiZHskDK I haven't played this game so i can't say but Nioh 2 is a very far from perfect game with some glaring gameplay issues. Some of which i can tell already this game addressed just by looking at footage.
@@deathtoraiden2080 nioh 2s endgame was stronger, its item customization far better, its replay value, the skill tree , the bosses were harder and more interresting and the combat was more indepth:) its just facts though
@@MikkiZHskDK Nioh 2 is a game that added phases to it's boss fights complete with dynamic music, but then let's players kill bosses in less than 5 seconds or even one shot them. Even if you don't use broken builds, skill play against bosses in Nioh consists of stunlocking them from start to finish by depleting their stamina. Everything that's good in Nioh's gameplay like the weapon movesets comes from the action game side of things, everything that's bad comes from the Loot/RPG/Souls side and there's a lot that's bad. If Nioh 2 was a straight action game with proper balance it would be excellent, but it's not that.
I can't with him making his character waluigi. might as well have given him the flat cap hat lol
People are entitled to their opinions and able to make comparisons, but people are not taking into consideration that GOT takes place in 1274 Tsushima Japan which is just a small island, and RotR takes place in 1853-67 Kyoto, Edo, and Yokohama. Yes, GOT took a more artistic/cinematic approach, but it's barely fair to compare once you consider the setting of both games. I think both did awesome with what they were prioritizing. GOT killed it when it comes their nature and land, but RotR makes me want to play it for its premodern Japan city life. As far as combat mechanics go, its all personal preference. Im just an old school gamer. Give me weapons, recourses and an upgrade system to improve those weapons and done. I want a more realistic life to the cpu. I dont want to hack and slash and wonder why the cpu is still alive lol. I also dont want to filter through infinite amounts of loot. RotR isn’t bad for a hack and slash honestly but all in all GOT takes the cake for me (on lethal mode)
I just wish this games story was better and didn’t feel so rugged. Things like the fighting styles are amazing but little things like shooting your bow is just disappointing lol.
I will totally say this game is very worth it my friends. Just limit your expectations.
My game of the year so far combat is top notch
Fall of the samurai will always be peak
11:06 - best game feature. Can pet dog. 10/10 game
it's a great game my opinion ,but you're right about the story but I still love the gamei really enjoy
Good and informative video, will you ever do a review of Sekiro: Shadows die twice?
Perhaps some day
If you've played 50hrs of a game(within a month of it's release) AND you're going to play it again, you REALLY like the game.
Saved me $70. Thanks.
I absolutely love this game. But I really don't get the point of decorating the house as it's literally just a menu. It would be great if we could move through our house. At least, where I am at the moment.
can I stay with realistic weapons and armor and still be strong? or I have to look like a clown like the new assassin's creed games?
Blows my mind that you played the whole game as Dr. Robotnik
Ave u played sekiro. Amazing game. Magical prosetic arm amazing and u are a ronin
I was about to say lol Ghost of Tsushima is nothing like rise of ronin, rise of ronin took mostly everything from way of the samurai but way of the samurai does the picking your side better like in way of samurai 4 you have like 3 or 4 factions you can bond with and it effects the end of the story think there was 4 different endings maybe more been a long time lol nice video
So the conversation choices don't matter because in the end we have to follow the story they decided to our fate since the beginning? No multiple ending? 😅
Yep pretty much
Really sad to see that they messed up with the story. It's was my biggest complaint about Nioh 2 as well.
Honestly the story is not confusing at all I rate the story a 7 but the game I give it a 8.5 cause I’m having hella fun with it
I'm not sure if you don't play a lot of games or not, but the GoT comparison is valid given they are the same genre, take place in Japan of iniquity and undoubtedly Team Ninja took pointers from it like they took pointers from From Software when it comes to gameplay approach. Preferring one over the other is subjective and given you prefer realism and accuracy, the setting of Rise of the Ronin will appeal more. GoT wouldn't make sense to have the combat variety and Team Ninja's strongest point is this if familiar with Ninja Gaiden.
The customization in Team Ninja games is also criticized to a point as the illusion of variety is there and doesn't actually matter. It's more aesthetic than functional as you constantly swap them out for a new piece that just dropped. I experienced this in the Nioh games and found it tedious and similar to older games that did this and somewhat loot boxes. GoT story is at least understandable and well done for what it is. Team Ninja used to have great graphics and lead with it in DOA and Ninja Gaiden. GoT is miles ahead despite being the older game. It was clearly going for the aesthetic look and not trying to be realistic and I'm not sure how well they could have represented Japan from that long ago compared to the period in Rise of the Ronin having more evidence for it. That's a subjective area, but it left an impression. I like both takes, fantastical and realistic.
I'm a bit surprised you prefer the gameplay over GoT for one reason. As I said, Team Ninja is strongest in this area, but how much of that is practical or realistic? How you fight is more arcade oriented or hack n slash, not taking account of how duals or battle plays out. GoT is far more the grounded game with no flourishes you see in Rise of the Ronin. So it looks like this to me: GoT has the flowery setting while RoR has the flowery combat system. One is easy on the eyes and the other fun to play.
None of Team Ninja's games have made waves as they fall in the shadow of being Souls-like clones with other games like Lies of P doing it better, but it is a position they put themselves in when creating Nioh with that angle. They are fun, but they get fatiguing after awhile and the story is always threadbare. The combat is the only thing keeping me going in their games. Maybe I'll get it on a steep sale, but GoT on PC will be out by then and I'll grab that up as I never had the chance to play the DLC.
And yes. Ishin trounces both when it comes to story and that alone almost beats out any other area of comparison for me. And music. They actually put personality into it while the others settle for orchestration found in cinema that blend together. I hate censorship so haven't gotten the remaster, but am trying to play the PS3 version with horrible translation patch lol
Variety IS there. Nioh 1 and 2 are by far one of the most content-right games I have played. There are so many ways to interact with the combat system and so many ways to build your dude that its quite frankly astaunding. It's Dark Souls' combat on overdose. This is of course heightened by new-game runs when the game confidently accepts the Diablo trappings and becomes basically the best NotDiablo game of the market.
But even on the first run the gear you pick and the stats you choose do matter if you choose to engage with the gear. Halfway through Nioh 1 for example I had build myself essentially a full ranged build and was able to headshot my way through the levels. I know people that have done the same with Onmyouji and the Ninjutsu systems as well. You can of course just pick the best and go for it which works pretty well, but if you want to have the freedom to say "fuck it, i'm doing a throwing rocks" then the game allows you to do that (Nioh 1 did at least)
@@Thomazbr Team Ninja has been approaching the Souls formula like a hack n slash, not something methodical. It's variety in combat, as I've stated, but nowhere else. Comparing this to a top-down isometric RPG is the greatest stretch I've seen, but okay. But you're right they have similarities in the loot gain and minor combat elements. Similarity ends there. I think there is a reason despite the combat strength From Software is the one that was mimicked each time they released a game. Team Ninja is trying to find a way to grow beyond their strength and they can't escape the shadow they've put themselves under. I mentioned Lies of P before, that received the most praise for taking on that formula and did some things better in the direction in went, overshadowing Wo Long.
The equipment always matters when you start such games off. That is the hook and is meant to be built on as you progress. However, the common failing is the loot grows beyond reason and miniscule upgrade parameters render them moot. They aren't paced out and have value and familiarity before you find a new one even better. You end up with mixed and matched pieces. In From Software games excluding Bloodborne and Sekiro, the equipment matters. In Lies of P attachments matter and aren't many, but that makes them more valuable in how your gameplay goes between approaches. Variety is good, but too much is a buffet at 2-star restaurant instead of culinary meal.
Yeah, I think they took that idea from the Souls games from challenge runs I know of. They shouldn't have issues adopting builds, it's usually a question of executing them well is the only thing.
Interesting take.
I really agree with Ishin's story is the best of the three games and glad you mentioned the music too
@@blumiu2426 My man, combat IS the most important way of interacting with the game world in any of these games. Just like Mario jumps the Darksoulsman and the Liesofpman and the Niohman swing a sword. and Niohman with his deeply wide pool of movesets, spirits and yokai cores is quite frankly simply the best in the market at swinging that sword. It swings the most, the best and in the most varied of ways.
Also comparing to Diablo is a pretty obvious comparison if you have played any of these games ngl. It's commonly said that the first run of a modern Koei-like game is more of a traditional souls-formula but once you hit the post-game it game completes the transformation into a diablo-inspired genre. You have multiple different post-game difficulties with differring tiers of armour sets and bonuses and whatnot. Nioh's equipment matters in the beginning and matters EVEN MORE by the end of it.
By far Wo Long's biggest problem is that the game went several steps back in Nioh's for a far simpler combat loop. There's less build variety, less identity to the weapons, a way more parry focused focus on the game (which still does better than Lies of P but one that makes every combat boils down to a rythmn game [much like Sekiro, really]). It added a jump button and a cool setting and that's it.
Also there's no mystery to why their games do the same engine. Because they want to reuse assets and engine and its just cheaper. They way they add stuff up is through iterative design. Incidentally the game with the most amount of new animations is also the game with less variety (wo long).
and I mean, really you say Team Ninja is copying from software in all of their games, but Rise of the Ronin really is close to Assassins Creed. It's Assassins Creed but good.
Team Ninja never have been known for there good story telling but they do try at least