I'm really impressed with your work, Luke. The way you introduce the product, describe the key features, and demonstrate their use clearly shows you put a lot of thought and effort into this review.--much appreciated. I posted some links in the eDRUMin forum.
@herbert bourne I'm sure you guys are overwhelmed by the response. Any updates in production/stock/etc. Is there a waiting list were we can sign in? Are you considering a GOFUNDME campaign so you can cope with the demand and keep in touch with potential buyers? This thing you've created: GAMECHANGING
Wow! This was an eye opener for me… first I’ve heard of this product… I’m only interested in accurate trigger control for Superior Drummer 3 for recording with no standalone sounds. Thanks for the very comprehensive pro and con review. Good job 👍
Great review. I own an edrumin 10 and I love it. Yes, you do need some knowledge VSTs, Midi, and how drum brains work but, as the author says, this is all learnable stuff. I use it with Steven Slate Drums and kit composed of Alesis and Roland drum triggers, and Aegean low volume cymbals. It's a joy to play because the edrumin works so well. It won't absolutely eliminate absolutely all your triggering problems since some of that is due to the triggers themselves, but it does an amazing job.
After seeing this video, I got the eDRUMin 4 and had a terrible experience with it. It was triggering randomly constantly basically all the time, even when it was just sitting there. The only way I could get it to stop was by setting the threshold so high that you had to slam every drum to get a reaction. I was going to make a video on it, but it was so absolutely horrible I didn't want to make a video just tearing it apart. I found the software to be completely wonky, not intuitive at all, and the overall experience to be a clunky, poorly functioning device. I could have just gotten a bad unit, but I quickly returned it. If anything these devices seem to be very inconsistent.
Woah, that's really weird. I've genuinely never had that issue or seen anyone else mention it before. Did you try reaching out to Rob to see if he could help? I found he's responsive and gives great advice for troubleshooting. It definitely sounds like something was up with it though as I only get that kind of triggering when I drop the threshold below the noise floor (usually down to like 0.7, which is pretty low). Maybe for some reason there was some additional noise interference.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop yeah, I talked to him, he suggested doing an update which I did, but it didn't help at all. I also was not impressed with the build quality of it at all. Seemed like a toy to me.
I'm glad these products exist. I've been using an Alesis Command module, but only to trigger samples in Bitwig. It's served its purpose, but found it limiting, now that I'm I building a hybrid kit. So now I finally ordered a MegaDrum, a similar product that's been out for quite a while, but even more niche than the eDRUMin or the DDTI. Definitely looking forward to having 27 dual-zone inputs instead of 5.
BEST VIDEO YET!!!! (of course I am biased eh?) But seriously and objectively speaking, excellent review. You explained some things to me about it that I was't aware of. Excellent stuff Luke!
No, you need the device connected to use the software. It won't work without the device as it's just controlling the functions of the hardware. They do make another piece of software called DSP Trigger that you can use with an audio interface instead of the eDRUMin. Not quite as fully-featured as the eDRUMin software, I don't think, and if you want to hook up stereo triggers you might need to use 2 inputs with a splitter from the drum, but might be worth checking out as an alternative.
I'm crossing my fingers 8 months after your note that the 10 will be back one day. I'd gone halfway through the video and my mind was made up. Clicked over to the Audiofront site ready to break my budget and finally replace my old Yamaha DTXtreme IIS module (I've converted the IIS rubber pads to mesh, btw, with fairly good results), only to find it unavailable. Hunted around Ebay and elsewhere, too, but no luck. Thanks for the great work here--I appreciate your content and knowledge.
What a shame! They do keep coming back but I think availability of parts in general are a bit all over the place. I recommend keeping an eye on the Audiofront forum, Rob might post about when he next expects to have some stock. Good luck!
Wow I just found out about this product today, thanks for the in-depth review, this looks amazing. I have a pretty cool frankenstein drumkit which started out as a super basic Hart Dynamics (RIP) kit that I've added pieces to over the years. But I'm still going through an old Alesis DM5 module into my PC to trigger various VSTs (mostly AD2 and NI kits). The DM5 works well enough just as a trigger module, but it's very limiting. This edrumin gear looks like exactly what I need to be able to expand further and exploit the additional features of my sample libraries that I don't really get to enjoy.
I've had my edrumin 10 for about a year now and I'm glad I have it. It may be a bit frustrating to get things dialed in sometimes, but having so many options to dial in my drums how I want has been incredible.
Does anyone know if the Edrumin can handle cymbal swells? I have an ATV kit and am only realky interested in triggering ezdrummer 3 currently. Also, will an ATV hi hat work?
thank you for this video! until i saw this i didn't fully realize the possibility of dropping my drum module. several weeks later, i have made the transition to EDrumin + Superior Drummer 3. since i have never worked with MIDI before, this was a BIG learning curve, but ultimately very rewarding!
Hi great videos, I have a edrumin 10, I am changing from a rack to stands. I would like to fit the edrumin inside my bass drum would this be a problem Thanks
18:43 @TheeDrumWorkshop It’s possible to do this inside Logic Pro using the MIDI Scripter function in the channel strip region. I use this to convert my cymbals incoming CC signal to convert to a regular MIDI note for a choking function. Not too sure on what the code would look like but if I can, I’ll post it as a reply here.
Great review. I also interested with Ddrum Trigger Interface DDTI. Still no full review about it on youtube. 66Samus did use it but only to trigger his drum without using the cymbal and hihat control. It would be great if you can give a full review about it as the price is also quite cheap. Thanks in advance. 👍
Great video Luke, I've heard about this unit online but this really outlines it. I'm currently using my td12 on an A to E kit with Steven Slate, using goedrum triggers, stealth, gear drum and ufo triggers. What I'm really keen on is getting more out of my hi hat settings. I have a diy/goedrum dual zone switch trigger. I have heard the best in the market is SD3 which seems to have all sorts of extra features to get the best response. Do you think this would help? Keep up the great work! Joe.
Thanks! I should imagine that the extra hi-hat options with this could help playability but I didn't end up testing my Goedrum controller with it due to time constraints (and the stand I use it on isn't great either so it might not have been super accurate). So I can't really say 100% for sure, but I was impressed with the playability with the FD-7 over Roland modules
Hi thank you for your video! I have a problem and I ask anyone for help if they have encountered a solution to the same problem I am having it has to do with using the DTX900 module by Yamaha. I don’t understand how to wire the head and the rim and successfully get dual triggering on my snare drum. How do I wire the rim and the head and plug it into my DTX900 and for the cross tick, the rim abd the snare head? I heard it’s piezo/switch not piezo/piezo. Is this tru? Is there anyway around this like using a drum splitter cable would that fix this problem??
Hmm..the edrumin 4 seems useless..not enough trigger ports for even a basic 5 piece drum kit..edrumin 10 is $350 for some sockets and some software..seems a lot to me 🤷♂️
I explained a little about a few of the drums in this video! If you seek out my Electronic VS Acoustic drums video, I break down an older version of my setup too. I've been asked about my kit a few times recently so I guess I'll probably need to make a video about it eventually but I feel like I've talked about parts of it on a few videos so never remember! Cheers!
Everyone who plays electronic drum triggers never seem to have the cymbals loud enough in the online "we Tubish" mix to hear relative to the drums themselves...its curious to me because in the real recording world cymbals are the hardest to contain volume on. But i can near never distinguish the cymbles. Oh i just thought of something my ears are 65 years old...crap!
hi luk.. i always amazed bout how ur edrum sounds.. just so natural, so tralism such as an accoustic kit. i did mail u on ut site bout it, would u kind enough to check it out a bit, thanks 4 ur enlighment
Thanks! No, I didn't have any noticeable latency issues. However, I do have a decent audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20) and had the buffer settings very low - I think I had it down to 32 samples - which really helps!
Not sure I'm convinced by this device. At $329 it seems very expensive given what it is, a basic box with pub and standard years old tech sockets on it. Can't have cost more than about $20 to make and manufacture in parts etc. Given you can buy a used Roland TD-12 for £175 (UK) and that has Midi out and you get the benefit of having a 'proper' drum module with all the built in sounds too, as well as everything this little box has to offer, I just can't see the point in buying this box. Also, going through this software and then into the drum software such as Addictive Drums II for example, seems like there could be issues as you are setting up a chain of two different software packages, one going into another. This device seems like a sort of 'middle-man' device where no middle-man is necessary, another pointless thing to through into the chain, at least that's how I see it given you can buy used 'proper' drum modules from Roland and others that have Midi out for less than half the price. Also, if you don't own an audio interface a used on can be picked up for £25 too so going straight into your computer via Midi is not an issue and this is only if the used drum module you buy does not have a modern piece of software that you can get for your latest OS. Or am I missing something here?
Damn it... this looks perfect for me: I already only use SD3, so I have very little use for most of the features of an actual drum module. Since I'm currently looking to swap out my TD-11, primarily to get positional sensing support and I really wouldn't mind fiddling around with the trigger settings to get them right, this video made me pretty happy. Then I was made very sad when checking out their page: The 10 input version is out of stock and in the forums, the manufacturer has said he's waiting for parts, but isn't expecting to get them until October _2023_ Quite the downer for me, as this would be pretty much perfect for me and it would be considerably cheaper than getting a new module.
My biggest issue with the ROland TD-17 by far is the hihat pedal movements after hits. I guess my style has lots of movements after the hit, which I cannot figure out how to control with the td-17. I mean, you can smash the hat closed and if you instantly lift, an acoustic hat opens up and you get lots of volume, but the roland wont give you anything but the closed sound. That is a deal breaker for me and I cannot find the setting that could fix that.
Unfortunately this is a sound engine limitation of the TD-17 module. Pedal information affecting hits before it is sometimes referred to as "transmuting" in online discussions if you want to read up on it. The Roland TD-50(X) and TD-27 can do it, but the 17 can't for whatever reason. The open sound after hitting the pad is still a bit quieter on those modules, but it's far more "realistic" and overall more forgiving in terms of response. Some VSTs can do it too and you'll still be able to get that from your TD-17 with those VSTs because it's all about how the software interprets the data and responds to it rather than it being a limitation of the trigger technology itself. So Roland could have included this in the 17 if they wanted to.
I’ve been trying to find one of these for sale for 2 months now lol. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? Looking for the 4-input one but at this point I’ll take the 10
No, it wouldn't. There is no way to trigger sounds that aren't already assigned to a pad zone on the SPD-SX, so there are no "extra" sounds to trigger. All inputs can already be split with simple Y cables so you can have a pad per sound without the need for extra hardware.
Thanks so much for such a clean and indepth explanation mate! The Edrumin just became available today again, so I grabbed one. Super stoked to ditch my DTX 700 module.
Why are all trigger to MIDI interfaces seemingly wiped off the face of the earth? Not a single vendor has these or ddrum DDTI’s in stock and none of them know when they’ll get them. Is hybrid drumming a dead market?
With the eDRUMin, I can only imagine it's a parts shortage coupled with the fact that it's a single person making them. The few available parts are probably being snapped up by larger companies. That's somewhat speculation on my part but I know Rob was having issues getting parts earlier in the year and generally there's been a shortage industry-wide. As for the ddrum DDTI, I don't really know. They're pretty old at this point (many people would suggest outdated in terms of performance too, from what I've read) so they might have come to the end of their run. But if not, again ddrum are a reasonably small company compared to others in the market, so there's a chance they've also been hit by shortages.
Please help. Should I wait for the new edrumin stock to come in/find a used one or get the mimic pro? Ive researched for hours and hours....and I just cant make a decision. Almost went td17 then alesis strike pro se then 2box then mimic then I found edrumin. My brain is mush...... The kit i was looking at is the atv exs 5...
I can't really tell you what to buy, but it looks like it's going to be quite some time before the eDRUMin 10 is back in stock (I think late 2023 is the speculated timeframe). If you really want an eDRUMin, you can link together multiple eDRUMin 4 units until you have enough inputs - last I checked they were still in stock. If you don't want to do that and want to get going quickly, or want something with built in sounds, then the Mimic is a great module, budget permitting.
I think an oversight in terms of the customer here is the man with the travelling kit(s) In my band for instance, the drummer either plays an SPD-SX, or plays a TD-20 weird hybrid kit. This would allow you to easily move your module around - as you're only ever connecting power and MIDI cable to it. So he could have this setup on the main kit, and bring only the module for SPD gigs - this ensures you have EXACTLY the same sounds, no matter the show
Great Content as usual! I'm still considering the possibility of buying an eDrumin 4, but I would like to know if it would be possible to use the Roland VH-13/14 with my Yamaha DTX Pro module (which is only compatible with the RHH135, unfortunately). As for your second question, once configured, does the eDrumin need to be connected to a computer or tablet? Sorry for my NOOB questions! :)
How does this compare to the tmc-6. Im not fond of adding an extra software step between the triggers and Ableton. But I do like the usb and 10 inputs option.
I've not used the TMC-6 myself so can't really comment. If it helps, the software doesn't need to be running once you've got your triggers set up as it has a standalone mode - it's only for configuration that it's necessary. I understand that a lot of people prefer being able to adjust parameters with physical dials etc (I'm usually one of those people), but functionally it's pretty much the same as using a sound-less module otherwise.
I purchased the Edrumin10 to expand by Mimic Pro which is maxed out of ports. How do I hook it up without a computer and add say an extra cymbal or two? Can someone provide a basic instruction for this. Which cords do I use and where to plug them in precisely? Thanks, I am pretty new at this.
Hi! I like a lot your videos. I have a question, I need a recomendation, I only want to play my drum with my laptop and use ezdrummer or other VST, I prefer a module without sounds but a good module for all the zone sounds of my cymbals and pads. I have no problem of buy the best cymbals and pads but I realy need the roland or yamaha more expensive for have the best drum experience?
Any idea why the 8 is in stock but the 10 isnt? Difficulty obtaining cases? Also would love to see them add their own kit library that can be used inside the software so literally an all in 1 option
I'm pretty sure it was to do with parts, yeah. I feel like I remember reading on the Audiofront forum that the 8 was being designed with a different board due to the chip shortages but there's a chance I'm misremembering that! The answer will no doubt be over there somewhere.
Thankyou so much for this review. I am using an old Roland TD 7 (prehistoric I know lol).... I was looking to hook up some PD 85/PDX100 and Cy 5/8 pads to it. Unfortunately due to the age of the head unit, I wasn't getting dual zone triggering on the PD85s and the PDX100. Somebody has just told me about this unit, which I'm looking to purchase now. Hopefully this will give me the ability to use those pads with the TD7 and get rim shots! Your review has helped out heaps! Thanks so much and just to let you know I've also subscribed and liked :-) One question - do you know if the 10 & 4 are essentially the same minus the number of inputs?
I have the eDRUMin 10. There's NOTHING like it for "leveling up" (taking it to the next level) triggering response as Rob said. I use it to run SD3, but I also simply then run a 5-din MIDI cable from the eDRUMin to a Mimic Pro. The software and triggering control of the eDRUMin is better than the built-in triggering features and control within the Mimic, in my opinion. I actually get better triggering customization for my needs, and additional control, out of this setup. That says a LOT, because the Mimic is already very good! Further, use of a single MIDI cable with my home kit, allows me to quickly grab the Mimic and load up my gigging kit (a DIY beater kit) and off I go, while leaving my cables and everything set up in the studio. So when I get home, I only have to plug in the Mimic's power and MIDI cables and I'm running again. Love it!
Sounds like you've got an awesome setup going there! I'm definitely going to end up with one of these of my own down the line, there's just so many features that I think are useful. Using it alongside modules is certainly one of the main ones for me. I usually have everything hooked up to my TD-50 with MIDI out from there but could see this being a useful "module hub" for development, especially for the pad compatibility.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop "Module hub" is a great way to describe it. The only thing that might make it better would be a 12-16 input version. However, since it can perform as a MIDI host, it's easy to connect two together or multiple combinations of a 4 and/or a 10. It's too bad you couldn't get the ATV ride to work with three zones and one cable with bell sense. I have it working incredibly well - MUCH better than any analog Roland ride I've ever played.
John I think you just convinced me of a eDRUMin 10 for the SAME exact purpose. I've been recently contemplating a second module for my beater kit (which kind of funny, is high end Roland pads!) and at home my full-on Mimic Pro hooked up to my ePRO kit and ATV cymbals I never really want to tear down due to sheer number of cables and it's setup perfectly. I agree as well - the Mimic offers some pretty advanced trigger control but the eDRUMin kicks it up a notch! Hopefully it's back in stock soon!
I HAVE A QUESTION, CAN I CONNECT TWO TD-07 TO A COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME USING THE Fideco H418S USB Hub AND RECORDING IN LOGIC PRO X USING A MORE NUMBER OF PADS?
Hey! Just got notification that the eDRUMin10 is *finally* back in stock and I JUST completed my order. So now I think it's safe to spread the word. 🙂 I really hope Mr. Jonkman continues to keep up the fine work. My little eDRUMin4 has been a real workhorse but I really need the ports & USB host mode, so my eDRUMin10 is going to be quite welcome!!
Excellent review, Now if they could just make a box to store my VST samples then I could leave my computer at home. I think I saw something called Smart or some thing like that, but the learning curve for the folder layout seemed quite intimidating and the box it came in certainly wouldn't stand up to the road but it was only $100.00.
Thanks! Yeah, the SmartWAV2. I've got a couple of the units but I haven't done my proper dive into it yet. They can support 4 sample layers per MIDI note, so you won't get VST playability out of it. I'll have a video on it soon so look out for that!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Will be on the look out for that one, take your time, the folder layout will take some getting use too, don't burn up to many neurons.
I just got this and I'm really disappointed by one thing: There are no options for dual piezo cymbal inputs, only piezo + switch! So if you use Magnatrack cymbal triggers for instance, you have to select "mesh centered piezo" or some other 'drum' input in order to use two piezo inputs on a cymbal, and I haven't gotten it to work well yet. Really sucks as this could have been a great solution for total DIY.
Do you know if you where able to get the Lemon cymbals to work better? Im hoping Audifront does an update to address the issue. I actually ordered a whole set to go with this device🤦♂️
I remember waiting for these a few years back... They looked incredibly promising but had too few inputs and I settled for a Megadrum module that I didn't really figured out. Well... My Gear Acquisition Syndrome is kicking out again.
I agree and I love my eDRUMin 10 so much, I bought another, just to keep under my pillow at night. In all seriousness, I'll keep one connected to my home/studio kit, and one in my bag for gigs.
I didn't understood enough, so, if i want to expand my e-kit while i'm using a VST, can i connect the edrumin to the auxiliary port on a TD-17, or i have to connect it directly to the computer and config it to trigger the extra sounds? Cheers man, love your channel
Not Avalibe until August 2023... Dont care how good a product is, If a busines can't figure out how to scale production with growth then I highly doubt they're interested in afterslaes support.
As far as I understand it, it's down to the current chip and parts shortages and I'm not sure if that's something that a small business can just "adapt" to. It's been affecting large companies too, but I would imagine they have the buying power to get what little is currently available. If I'm wrong, fair enough. I just don't think it's from lack of trying and their after sales support has been nothing but top notch in my experience (I find your conclusion from one point to another a bit odd, there).
In fact, a quick look over at the Audiofront forum should tell you what you need to know. Rob is constantly active on there, there are regular software updates with customer feedback informing them and there is mention of him currently retooling to fit a new CPU that he's hoping to use in future builds which will hopefully get around the stock issues being faced.
Hey! Thanks for the video. I am looking for more customization on my Roland set because I speedrun games with the set. I plan on lowering the sm64 wr by adjusting the controls to improve gameplay. This might just give me the tools to do just that!
Great vid, a couple of questions: 1) So you can hook up multiple edrumin units with each other for kit expansion through either the USB host or MIDI in ports, right? 2) When connecting digital pads through a USB host device, does this allow to circumvent the limitation of the TD27 module where the cable snake inputs become disabled when digital pads are connected to the module? Can you use the edrumin to trigger stuff in the module while having both digital pads connected to edrumin through the host AND the ride/snare snake cables connected on the module? Sorry for the messy question but basically i want a way to cheat the module into keeping both the digital and analog snare/ride inputs enabled while triggering the sounds inside the module and not that of a VST.
Thanks, your excellent review has helped me determine that an eDRUMin 10 is a far more affordable and functional choice than a full drum module, as I will be doing an electronic conversion of an acoustic kit and exclusively triggering VI sounds on a Mac (e.g. SSD5).
On the audiofront forum the company says this. "After I get the rest of my casings and those last 50 units are sold, I don't expect to have any more units until October 2023 at the earliest. This is very frustrating because I put in orders for parts in February 2021. Unless an angel drops a bunch of mk66fx1m0vlq18 microcontrollers on my doorstep, it's going to be a very long wait. Brutal.
Fantastic video, Luke. Earlier today I went out to the Audio Front site because I wanted to download the manual for this amazing little box, and wouldn't you know it! For the eDrumIn 10, the little blurb stating "Out of Stock. Get Notified," instead had a yellow "Add to Cart" button. You think I didn't whip out my wallet and purchase one most ricky-tick! Needless to say, I won't have to wait until March 2024 to get my hands on one! Needless to say. I did check the site again about 30 minutes after I purchased mine and they had sold out again. If people want one, I suggest that they religiously check the site a few times a day because over the past two weeks, this is the second batch that has went on sale.
Thank you. I've never used a DDrum DDTI unfortunately so you'd have to have a look at the manuals. The DDrum is a fair bit older though, if I remember rightly.
How would you rate the MIDI Latency of these units vs. a nice Roland TD module's MIDI out? Trying to trigger software VST's and those module kits are already sounding 10+ years old
Yeah, they've been hit hard by supply chain issues. You can hook together multiple eDRUMin 4 units and use them simultaneously if you want enough inputs sooner, but you don't get the USB Host function or physical MIDI In port.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Im IT and guitarist, who just got first evdrum kit (td11) after doing some research. And without hesitation would spend money on this and slowly build up whole kit. I can see it as whole stand alone set with USFF computer hooked up to some touchscreen and audio interface. Et voila perfect drum module no limitations on sound or control.
Wish I knew about this product sooner. This is exactly what I need right now, but it seems the wait will be long for the next batch, and there is no similar product from other brands, right?
I don't know of anything else that fills the same role really, no. Megadrum used to be a really popular option for this years ago but I believe that it's nowhere near as user friendly. There are also some options like a second hand Roland TMC-6 or there's an Alesis one that some people really liked, but they're a lot older and probably pretty outdated nowadays. The eDRUMin's big strengths are in the software with its ease of use and features. It's a shame to hear about the shortages affecting the eDRUMin as it deserves every success.
The eDRUMin 4 doesn't have a USB Host port and the TD-17 has no MIDI in port so you can't use them together, from what I remember. Even with an eDRUMin 10 though, you can't "expand" a TD-17 if you're using all of the pad inputs/zones because there is no way to trigger sounds that aren't assigned to a pad zone. You can use the 10 to trigger every available zone over MIDI if you want, but it's a pretty limited use case.
I'm really impressed with your work, Luke. The way you introduce the product, describe the key features, and demonstrate their use clearly shows you put a lot of thought and effort into this review.--much appreciated. I posted some links in the eDRUMin forum.
Thank you 🙏 I knew after a little bit of use that it was going to need a pretty in-depth look to do it justice so I'm glad that came across!
@herbert bourne I'm sure you guys are overwhelmed by the response. Any updates in production/stock/etc. Is there a waiting list were we can sign in? Are you considering a GOFUNDME campaign so you can cope with the demand and keep in touch with potential buyers? This thing you've created: GAMECHANGING
@audiofront Fantastic product!!! Is it possible to prepay for the out of stock unit? I NEED this thing! LOL
Yes, well put together video minus unnecessary fluff. It helped to cement my decision to purchase the ed10. Thanks for the video!
Eta on more 10s? 😄
I believe they sell a smaller version with less inputs as well
Wow! This was an eye opener for me… first I’ve heard of this product… I’m only interested in accurate trigger control for Superior Drummer 3 for recording with no standalone sounds. Thanks for the very comprehensive pro and con review. Good job 👍
Great review. I own an edrumin 10 and I love it. Yes, you do need some knowledge VSTs, Midi, and how drum brains work but, as the author says, this is all learnable stuff. I use it with Steven Slate Drums and kit composed of Alesis and Roland drum triggers, and Aegean low volume cymbals. It's a joy to play because the edrumin works so well. It won't absolutely eliminate absolutely all your triggering problems since some of that is due to the triggers themselves, but it does an amazing job.
After seeing this video, I got the eDRUMin 4 and had a terrible experience with it. It was triggering randomly constantly basically all the time, even when it was just sitting there. The only way I could get it to stop was by setting the threshold so high that you had to slam every drum to get a reaction. I was going to make a video on it, but it was so absolutely horrible I didn't want to make a video just tearing it apart. I found the software to be completely wonky, not intuitive at all, and the overall experience to be a clunky, poorly functioning device. I could have just gotten a bad unit, but I quickly returned it. If anything these devices seem to be very inconsistent.
Woah, that's really weird. I've genuinely never had that issue or seen anyone else mention it before. Did you try reaching out to Rob to see if he could help? I found he's responsive and gives great advice for troubleshooting. It definitely sounds like something was up with it though as I only get that kind of triggering when I drop the threshold below the noise floor (usually down to like 0.7, which is pretty low). Maybe for some reason there was some additional noise interference.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop yeah, I talked to him, he suggested doing an update which I did, but it didn't help at all. I also was not impressed with the build quality of it at all. Seemed like a toy to me.
I'm glad these products exist. I've been using an Alesis Command module, but only to trigger samples in Bitwig. It's served its purpose, but found it limiting, now that I'm I building a hybrid kit. So now I finally ordered a MegaDrum, a similar product that's been out for quite a while, but even more niche than the eDRUMin or the DDTI. Definitely looking forward to having 27 dual-zone inputs instead of 5.
I have Alesis Strike module and VH-13 roland hi hats. Those hats are not really compatable with the strike module. Could this box fix that ?
Yes. You might be better off connecting more than just hihats to the edrumin and then midi-ing into the strike module. Say for example, the snare.
BEST VIDEO YET!!!!
(of course I am biased eh?) But seriously and objectively speaking, excellent review. You explained some things to me about it that I was't aware of. Excellent stuff Luke!
Haha! Glad you liked it man! Definitely a great product.
Unfortunately it looks like I've managed to post this just as they've gone out of stock. Hopefully it'll be back soon!
Can you use the edrumin software without the edrumin hardware?
No, you need the device connected to use the software. It won't work without the device as it's just controlling the functions of the hardware. They do make another piece of software called DSP Trigger that you can use with an audio interface instead of the eDRUMin. Not quite as fully-featured as the eDRUMin software, I don't think, and if you want to hook up stereo triggers you might need to use 2 inputs with a splitter from the drum, but might be worth checking out as an alternative.
I'm crossing my fingers 8 months after your note that the 10 will be back one day. I'd gone halfway through the video and my mind was made up. Clicked over to the Audiofront site ready to break my budget and finally replace my old Yamaha DTXtreme IIS module (I've converted the IIS rubber pads to mesh, btw, with fairly good results), only to find it unavailable. Hunted around Ebay and elsewhere, too, but no luck. Thanks for the great work here--I appreciate your content and knowledge.
What a shame! They do keep coming back but I think availability of parts in general are a bit all over the place. I recommend keeping an eye on the Audiofront forum, Rob might post about when he next expects to have some stock. Good luck!
Wow I just found out about this product today, thanks for the in-depth review, this looks amazing. I have a pretty cool frankenstein drumkit which started out as a super basic Hart Dynamics (RIP) kit that I've added pieces to over the years. But I'm still going through an old Alesis DM5 module into my PC to trigger various VSTs (mostly AD2 and NI kits). The DM5 works well enough just as a trigger module, but it's very limiting. This edrumin gear looks like exactly what I need to be able to expand further and exploit the additional features of my sample libraries that I don't really get to enjoy.
I've had my edrumin 10 for about a year now and I'm glad I have it. It may be a bit frustrating to get things dialed in sometimes, but having so many options to dial in my drums how I want has been incredible.
Does anyone know if the Edrumin can handle cymbal swells? I have an ATV kit and am only realky interested in triggering ezdrummer 3 currently.
Also, will an ATV hi hat work?
cool
thank you for this video! until i saw this i didn't fully realize the possibility of dropping my drum module. several weeks later, i have made the transition to EDrumin + Superior Drummer 3. since i have never worked with MIDI before, this was a BIG learning curve, but ultimately very rewarding!
Hi great videos, I have a edrumin 10, I am changing from a rack to stands. I would like to fit the edrumin inside my bass drum would this be a problem Thanks
can i use edrumin4 with yamaha ku100 (kick edrum pedal) with abletone push 2 to fingerdrumming on push 2 while playing kick pedal with my foot?
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I have a question! With that, is it possible connecting 5 toms and 2 double bass? I mean regulate it? Or it requires a splitter? Thank you
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I have a question! With that, is it possible connecting 5 toms and 2 double bass? I mean regulate it? Or it requires a splitter? Thank you
18:43 @TheeDrumWorkshop It’s possible to do this inside Logic Pro using the MIDI Scripter function in the channel strip region. I use this to convert my cymbals incoming CC signal to convert to a regular MIDI note for a choking function.
Not too sure on what the code would look like but if I can, I’ll post it as a reply here.
Great review. I also interested with Ddrum Trigger Interface DDTI. Still no full review about it on youtube. 66Samus did use it but only to trigger his drum without using the cymbal and hihat control. It would be great if you can give a full review about it as the price is also quite cheap. Thanks in advance. 👍
Great video Luke, I've heard about this unit online but this really outlines it. I'm currently using my td12 on an A to E kit with Steven Slate, using goedrum triggers, stealth, gear drum and ufo triggers. What I'm really keen on is getting more out of my hi hat settings. I have a diy/goedrum dual zone switch trigger. I have heard the best in the market is SD3 which seems to have all sorts of extra features to get the best response. Do you think this would help? Keep up the great work! Joe.
Thanks! I should imagine that the extra hi-hat options with this could help playability but I didn't end up testing my Goedrum controller with it due to time constraints (and the stand I use it on isn't great either so it might not have been super accurate). So I can't really say 100% for sure, but I was impressed with the playability with the FD-7 over Roland modules
Hi thank you for your video! I have a problem and I ask anyone for help if they have encountered a solution to the same problem I am having it has to do with using the DTX900 module by Yamaha. I don’t understand how to wire the head and the rim and successfully get dual triggering on my snare drum. How do I wire the rim and the head and plug it into my DTX900 and for the cross tick, the rim abd the snare head? I heard it’s piezo/switch not piezo/piezo. Is this tru? Is there anyway around this like using a drum splitter cable would that fix this problem??
Hmm..the edrumin 4 seems useless..not enough trigger ports for even a basic 5 piece drum kit..edrumin 10 is $350 for some sockets and some software..seems a lot to me 🤷♂️
Sooo this product is out of stock until AUGUST 2023 according to the website. Any good alternatives?
What drums are you using? Do you have a video explaining your drumkit? Looks very custom.
Great content!
I explained a little about a few of the drums in this video! If you seek out my Electronic VS Acoustic drums video, I break down an older version of my setup too. I've been asked about my kit a few times recently so I guess I'll probably need to make a video about it eventually but I feel like I've talked about parts of it on a few videos so never remember! Cheers!
Everyone who plays electronic drum triggers never seem to have the cymbals loud enough in the online "we Tubish" mix to hear relative to the drums themselves...its curious to me because in the real recording world cymbals are the hardest to contain volume on. But i can near never distinguish the cymbles. Oh i just thought of something my ears are 65 years old...crap!
This looks fantastic. I use SD3 for all my sounds instead of my TD17. Time to sell my TD17! Thanks Luke!
Just a heads up - looks like they went out of stock just as my video got finished. Bookmark it though!
If you gig with it, then you should always save that td17 as a backup.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop still sold out
This is great.
I NEVER play with the onboard sounds.
Having this is much cleaner and more affordable.
Same
Shame you can't buy one... Always out of stock. Really wish they'd just sell them as a kit
Will this work with Drumagog VST plug-in?
hi luk.. i always amazed bout how ur edrum sounds.. just so natural, so tralism such as an accoustic kit. i did mail u on ut site bout it, would u kind enough to check it out a bit, thanks 4 ur enlighment
Sounds pretty awesome, good vid, have you had any problems with latency at all?
Thanks! No, I didn't have any noticeable latency issues. However, I do have a decent audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20) and had the buffer settings very low - I think I had it down to 32 samples - which really helps!
Seems like a great module! Stock sounds all suck anyway...
Hi Luke. Just a thought if you may, can we request for a separate video using this + Mimic Pro?
Thank you in advance, brother!
Hey Carlo! Yeah, I can look into that. I borrowed the unit for this review so could only do so much, but I'll have my own very soon!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you, sir. Looking forward to that! More blessings!
Have you noticed any kind of latency with this?
I need this :-D
Hi luke.. what source bank sound u use in this video? thanks in advance
Finally got one off eBay today!
What about Alesis Crimson 2 support?
Not sure I'm convinced by this device. At $329 it seems very expensive given what it is, a basic box with pub and standard years old tech sockets on it. Can't have cost more than about $20 to make and manufacture in parts etc. Given you can buy a used Roland TD-12 for £175 (UK) and that has Midi out and you get the benefit of having a 'proper' drum module with all the built in sounds too, as well as everything this little box has to offer, I just can't see the point in buying this box. Also, going through this software and then into the drum software such as Addictive Drums II for example, seems like there could be issues as you are setting up a chain of two different software packages, one going into another. This device seems like a sort of 'middle-man' device where no middle-man is necessary, another pointless thing to through into the chain, at least that's how I see it given you can buy used 'proper' drum modules from Roland and others that have Midi out for less than half the price. Also, if you don't own an audio interface a used on can be picked up for £25 too so going straight into your computer via Midi is not an issue and this is only if the used drum module you buy does not have a modern piece of software that you can get for your latest OS. Or am I missing something here?
You're paying for the software, not so much the hardware. Although I can imagine they cost £50-75 to manufactur, given less economy of scale.
Damn it... this looks perfect for me: I already only use SD3, so I have very little use for most of the features of an actual drum module. Since I'm currently looking to swap out my TD-11, primarily to get positional sensing support and I really wouldn't mind fiddling around with the trigger settings to get them right, this video made me pretty happy.
Then I was made very sad when checking out their page: The 10 input version is out of stock and in the forums, the manufacturer has said he's waiting for parts, but isn't expecting to get them until October _2023_
Quite the downer for me, as this would be pretty much perfect for me and it would be considerably cheaper than getting a new module.
I feel your pain, but hang in there, it'll be worth it!
They just stocked the 4s and you can use two in tandem. I just bought a couple. Gl!
@@jackbritton5177 Thanks for the info!
Any alternatives to this? They are out of stock
Hmm..wish I could play like this 😑
can you use this with Abelton Live?
My biggest issue with the ROland TD-17 by far is the hihat pedal movements after hits. I guess my style has lots of movements after the hit, which I cannot figure out how to control with the td-17. I mean, you can smash the hat closed and if you instantly lift, an acoustic hat opens up and you get lots of volume, but the roland wont give you anything but the closed sound. That is a deal breaker for me and I cannot find the setting that could fix that.
Unfortunately this is a sound engine limitation of the TD-17 module. Pedal information affecting hits before it is sometimes referred to as "transmuting" in online discussions if you want to read up on it. The Roland TD-50(X) and TD-27 can do it, but the 17 can't for whatever reason. The open sound after hitting the pad is still a bit quieter on those modules, but it's far more "realistic" and overall more forgiving in terms of response.
Some VSTs can do it too and you'll still be able to get that from your TD-17 with those VSTs because it's all about how the software interprets the data and responds to it rather than it being a limitation of the trigger technology itself. So Roland could have included this in the 17 if they wanted to.
what hi-hat is that you are using?
I don't understand why your channel only has 4k subscribers... wealth of info on your channel is top notch.
Thank you! Takes some time to build things up, I guess. Will keep on going though!
I am guessing those of us with modules ( Like the TD 15 I own) with cable snakes will have to purchase stereo cables to connect our pads.
Ah yes, unfortunately it can't take a cable snake.
Or have a loom wired to connect to your snake. Stereo outputs on the other end to the module.
I’ve been trying to find one of these for sale for 2 months now lol. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? Looking for the 4-input one but at this point I’ll take the 10
can the Audiofront eDRUMin be used with Native Instruments Battery?
It just uses MIDI, so as long as Battery can accept MIDI notes from a device then it should work fine!
Would it expand the Roland SPD-SX? I see it would not work with Alesis Strike but no info regarding the SPD-SX...
No, it wouldn't. There is no way to trigger sounds that aren't already assigned to a pad zone on the SPD-SX, so there are no "extra" sounds to trigger. All inputs can already be split with simple Y cables so you can have a pad per sound without the need for extra hardware.
Thanks so much for such a clean and indepth explanation mate! The Edrumin just became available today again, so I grabbed one. Super stoked to ditch my DTX 700 module.
Thanks for watching! Awesome, really glad they're available again and that you managed to grab one!
Why are all trigger to MIDI interfaces seemingly wiped off the face of the earth? Not a single vendor has these or ddrum DDTI’s in stock and none of them know when they’ll get them. Is hybrid drumming a dead market?
With the eDRUMin, I can only imagine it's a parts shortage coupled with the fact that it's a single person making them. The few available parts are probably being snapped up by larger companies. That's somewhat speculation on my part but I know Rob was having issues getting parts earlier in the year and generally there's been a shortage industry-wide.
As for the ddrum DDTI, I don't really know. They're pretty old at this point (many people would suggest outdated in terms of performance too, from what I've read) so they might have come to the end of their run. But if not, again ddrum are a reasonably small company compared to others in the market, so there's a chance they've also been hit by shortages.
Please help. Should I wait for the new edrumin stock to come in/find a used one or get the mimic pro? Ive researched for hours and hours....and I just cant make a decision. Almost went td17 then alesis strike pro se then 2box then mimic then I found edrumin. My brain is mush...... The kit i was looking at is the atv exs 5...
I can't really tell you what to buy, but it looks like it's going to be quite some time before the eDRUMin 10 is back in stock (I think late 2023 is the speculated timeframe). If you really want an eDRUMin, you can link together multiple eDRUMin 4 units until you have enough inputs - last I checked they were still in stock.
If you don't want to do that and want to get going quickly, or want something with built in sounds, then the Mimic is a great module, budget permitting.
I think an oversight in terms of the customer here is the man with the travelling kit(s)
In my band for instance, the drummer either plays an SPD-SX, or plays a TD-20 weird hybrid kit. This would allow you to easily move your module around - as you're only ever connecting power and MIDI cable to it. So he could have this setup on the main kit, and bring only the module for SPD gigs - this ensures you have EXACTLY the same sounds, no matter the show
Great Content as usual!
I'm still considering the possibility of buying an eDrumin 4, but I would like to know if it would be possible to use the Roland VH-13/14 with my Yamaha DTX Pro module (which is only compatible with the RHH135, unfortunately).
As for your second question, once configured, does the eDrumin need to be connected to a computer or tablet?
Sorry for my NOOB questions! :)
How does this compare to the tmc-6.
Im not fond of adding an extra software step between the triggers and Ableton.
But I do like the usb and 10 inputs option.
I've not used the TMC-6 myself so can't really comment. If it helps, the software doesn't need to be running once you've got your triggers set up as it has a standalone mode - it's only for configuration that it's necessary. I understand that a lot of people prefer being able to adjust parameters with physical dials etc (I'm usually one of those people), but functionally it's pretty much the same as using a sound-less module otherwise.
I purchased the Edrumin10 to expand by Mimic Pro which is maxed out of ports. How do I hook it up without a computer and add say an extra cymbal or two? Can someone provide a basic instruction for this. Which cords do I use and where to plug them in precisely? Thanks, I am pretty new at this.
You can use it in stand-alone mode via a 9v power supply like shown in the video and then connect an iPad/iphone/android device via the usb port.
Hi! I like a lot your videos. I have a question, I need a recomendation, I only want to play my drum with my laptop and use ezdrummer or other VST, I prefer a module without sounds but a good module for all the zone sounds of my cymbals and pads. I have no problem of buy the best cymbals and pads but I realy need the roland or yamaha more expensive for have the best drum experience?
this is the future
Any idea why the 8 is in stock but the 10 isnt? Difficulty obtaining cases?
Also would love to see them add their own kit library that can be used inside the software so literally an all in 1 option
I'm pretty sure it was to do with parts, yeah. I feel like I remember reading on the Audiofront forum that the 8 was being designed with a different board due to the chip shortages but there's a chance I'm misremembering that! The answer will no doubt be over there somewhere.
Thankyou so much for this review. I am using an old Roland TD 7 (prehistoric I know lol).... I was looking to hook up some PD 85/PDX100 and Cy 5/8 pads to it. Unfortunately due to the age of the head unit, I wasn't getting dual zone triggering on the PD85s and the PDX100. Somebody has just told me about this unit, which I'm looking to purchase now. Hopefully this will give me the ability to use those pads with the TD7 and get rim shots! Your review has helped out heaps! Thanks so much and just to let you know I've also subscribed and liked :-)
One question - do you know if the 10 & 4 are essentially the same minus the number of inputs?
I have the eDRUMin 10. There's NOTHING like it for "leveling up" (taking it to the next level) triggering response as Rob said. I use it to run SD3, but I also simply then run a 5-din MIDI cable from the eDRUMin to a Mimic Pro. The software and triggering control of the eDRUMin is better than the built-in triggering features and control within the Mimic, in my opinion. I actually get better triggering customization for my needs, and additional control, out of this setup. That says a LOT, because the Mimic is already very good! Further, use of a single MIDI cable with my home kit, allows me to quickly grab the Mimic and load up my gigging kit (a DIY beater kit) and off I go, while leaving my cables and everything set up in the studio. So when I get home, I only have to plug in the Mimic's power and MIDI cables and I'm running again. Love it!
Sounds like you've got an awesome setup going there! I'm definitely going to end up with one of these of my own down the line, there's just so many features that I think are useful. Using it alongside modules is certainly one of the main ones for me. I usually have everything hooked up to my TD-50 with MIDI out from there but could see this being a useful "module hub" for development, especially for the pad compatibility.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop "Module hub" is a great way to describe it. The only thing that might make it better would be a 12-16 input version. However, since it can perform as a MIDI host, it's easy to connect two together or multiple combinations of a 4 and/or a 10. It's too bad you couldn't get the ATV ride to work with three zones and one cable with bell sense. I have it working incredibly well - MUCH better than any analog Roland ride I've ever played.
John I think you just convinced me of a eDRUMin 10 for the SAME exact purpose. I've been recently contemplating a second module for my beater kit (which kind of funny, is high end Roland pads!) and at home my full-on Mimic Pro hooked up to my ePRO kit and ATV cymbals I never really want to tear down due to sheer number of cables and it's setup perfectly. I agree as well - the Mimic offers some pretty advanced trigger control but the eDRUMin kicks it up a notch! Hopefully it's back in stock soon!
I HAVE A QUESTION, CAN I CONNECT TWO TD-07 TO A COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME USING THE Fideco H418S USB Hub AND RECORDING IN LOGIC PRO X USING A MORE NUMBER OF PADS?
Hey! Just got notification that the eDRUMin10 is *finally* back in stock and I JUST completed my order. So now I think it's safe to spread the word. 🙂
I really hope Mr. Jonkman continues to keep up the fine work. My little eDRUMin4 has been a real workhorse but I really need the ports & USB host mode, so my eDRUMin10 is going to be quite welcome!!
Alesis Trigger iO or Ddrum clone much much cheaper and doesnt need software. It can be edited on the harware
True, but they're not as good or as flexible.
Which VST are you triggering in this video?
Superior Drummer 2!
Excellent review, Now if they could just make a box to store my VST samples then I could leave my computer at home. I think I saw something called Smart or some thing like that, but the learning curve for the folder layout seemed quite intimidating and the box it came in certainly wouldn't stand up to the road but it was only $100.00.
Thanks! Yeah, the SmartWAV2. I've got a couple of the units but I haven't done my proper dive into it yet. They can support 4 sample layers per MIDI note, so you won't get VST playability out of it. I'll have a video on it soon so look out for that!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Will be on the look out for that one, take your time, the folder layout will take some getting use too, don't burn up to many neurons.
I just got this and I'm really disappointed by one thing: There are no options for dual piezo cymbal inputs, only piezo + switch! So if you use Magnatrack cymbal triggers for instance, you have to select "mesh centered piezo" or some other 'drum' input in order to use two piezo inputs on a cymbal, and I haven't gotten it to work well yet. Really sucks as this could have been a great solution for total DIY.
Bell sense works but don’t expect perfect results, it works 70-80% of the time
Do you know if you where able to get the Lemon cymbals to work better? Im hoping Audifront does an update to address the issue. I actually ordered a whole set to go with this device🤦♂️
Which drum software/VST did you use throughout the video? I'm impressed with the sound!
I remember waiting for these a few years back... They looked incredibly promising but had too few inputs and I settled for a Megadrum module that I didn't really figured out.
Well... My Gear Acquisition Syndrome is kicking out again.
This is gonna be big. An ekit. Like diy or after market or custom stuff. Then vsts
Is the software actively processing the data or is it just a controller for the device?
But then will be keep plugging in and out the cables from the module?
I just got a MacBook i5 quad 16 gig ram laptop. Is this enough to run it smoothly?
Fantastic review, thank you
Would you trust it in a live situation? That's my biggest issue.
Great overview of this product. Looks like a real winner. Thanks for your efforts and clear presentation!
Thanks for watching!
I agree and I love my eDRUMin 10 so much, I bought another, just to keep under my pillow at night. In all seriousness, I'll keep one connected to my home/studio kit, and one in my bag for gigs.
EDrummin vs megadrum??? Thoughts?
I didn't understood enough, so, if i want to expand my e-kit while i'm using a VST, can i connect the edrumin to the auxiliary port on a TD-17, or i have to connect it directly to the computer and config it to trigger the extra sounds? Cheers man, love your channel
Not Avalibe until August 2023... Dont care how good a product is, If a busines can't figure out how to scale production with growth then I highly doubt they're interested in afterslaes support.
As far as I understand it, it's down to the current chip and parts shortages and I'm not sure if that's something that a small business can just "adapt" to. It's been affecting large companies too, but I would imagine they have the buying power to get what little is currently available. If I'm wrong, fair enough. I just don't think it's from lack of trying and their after sales support has been nothing but top notch in my experience (I find your conclusion from one point to another a bit odd, there).
In fact, a quick look over at the Audiofront forum should tell you what you need to know. Rob is constantly active on there, there are regular software updates with customer feedback informing them and there is mention of him currently retooling to fit a new CPU that he's hoping to use in future builds which will hopefully get around the stock issues being faced.
Hey! Thanks for the video. I am looking for more customization on my Roland set because I speedrun games with the set. I plan on lowering the sm64 wr by adjusting the controls to improve gameplay. This might just give me the tools to do just that!
Super interesting idea, sounds great! Hope that you find what you need with this!
Great vid, a couple of questions:
1) So you can hook up multiple edrumin units with each other for kit expansion through either the USB host or MIDI in ports, right?
2) When connecting digital pads through a USB host device, does this allow to circumvent the limitation of the TD27 module where the cable snake inputs become disabled when digital pads are connected to the module? Can you use the edrumin to trigger stuff in the module while having both digital pads connected to edrumin through the host AND the ride/snare snake cables connected on the module? Sorry for the messy question but basically i want a way to cheat the module into keeping both the digital and analog snare/ride inputs enabled while triggering the sounds inside the module and not that of a VST.
Great Review, If they could just make a module using this software and downloading 2 box samples that would be something.
Appreciate this! 👊👊🍻
Good content on this channel but but pleaaaase slow down with the non stop editing after every sentence...
This was a really great review, thank you.
Thanks, your excellent review has helped me determine that an eDRUMin 10 is a far more affordable and functional choice than a full drum module, as I will be doing an electronic conversion of an acoustic kit and exclusively triggering VI sounds on a Mac (e.g. SSD5).
On the audiofront forum the company says this. "After I get the rest of my casings and those last 50 units are sold, I don't expect to have any more units until October 2023 at the earliest. This is very frustrating because I put in orders for parts in February 2021. Unless an angel drops a bunch of mk66fx1m0vlq18 microcontrollers on my doorstep, it's going to be a very long wait. Brutal.
Oh no, that's awful! Must be really difficult to deal with. Such a great product being hampered by uncontrollable circumstances, I feel for Rob.
I am having a great day, thanks Luke 😂
Fantastic video, Luke. Earlier today I went out to the Audio Front site because I wanted to download the manual for this amazing little box, and wouldn't you know it! For the eDrumIn 10, the little blurb stating "Out of Stock. Get Notified," instead had a yellow "Add to Cart" button. You think I didn't whip out my wallet and purchase one most ricky-tick! Needless to say, I won't have to wait until March 2024 to get my hands on one!
Needless to say. I did check the site again about 30 minutes after I purchased mine and they had sold out again. If people want one, I suggest that they religiously check the site a few times a day because over the past two weeks, this is the second batch that has went on sale.
What a great catch! Definitely seems like a good idea to keep checking in. I hope you enjoy it.
Very good presentation .. I would like to know what are the differences of this product with the DDrum DDTI Trigger Interface .. thank you very much.
Thank you. I've never used a DDrum DDTI unfortunately so you'd have to have a look at the manuals. The DDrum is a fair bit older though, if I remember rightly.
How would you rate the MIDI Latency of these units vs. a nice Roland TD module's MIDI out? Trying to trigger software VST's and those module kits are already sounding 10+ years old
Around 6ms
Great review...opens a world of possibilities and alternative to sourcing a new module...sounds are spot on...🍒
You are VERY good at simply explaining topics that might be somewhat intimidating to some..keep it up.
This device looks like nice alternative shame its out of stock
Yeah, they've been hit hard by supply chain issues. You can hook together multiple eDRUMin 4 units and use them simultaneously if you want enough inputs sooner, but you don't get the USB Host function or physical MIDI In port.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Im IT and guitarist, who just got first evdrum kit (td11) after doing some research. And without hesitation would spend money on this and slowly build up whole kit. I can see it as whole stand alone set with USFF computer hooked up to some touchscreen and audio interface. Et voila perfect drum module no limitations on sound or control.
Wish I knew about this product sooner. This is exactly what I need right now, but it seems the wait will be long for the next batch, and there is no similar product from other brands, right?
I don't know of anything else that fills the same role really, no. Megadrum used to be a really popular option for this years ago but I believe that it's nowhere near as user friendly. There are also some options like a second hand Roland TMC-6 or there's an Alesis one that some people really liked, but they're a lot older and probably pretty outdated nowadays.
The eDRUMin's big strengths are in the software with its ease of use and features. It's a shame to hear about the shortages affecting the eDRUMin as it deserves every success.
very nice! Can you use an eDrumIn 4 with a Roland TD-17 (in case the roland runs out of inputs)
The eDRUMin 4 doesn't have a USB Host port and the TD-17 has no MIDI in port so you can't use them together, from what I remember. Even with an eDRUMin 10 though, you can't "expand" a TD-17 if you're using all of the pad inputs/zones because there is no way to trigger sounds that aren't assigned to a pad zone. You can use the 10 to trigger every available zone over MIDI if you want, but it's a pretty limited use case.