Jordan Peterson - What Kind Of Job Fits Your IQ
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2021
- You need to understand that there are differences in intelligence. If you go into a job and you're not smart enough for that job, you won't be able to handle the position and you'll be miserable. If you want to maximize your chances for success and well-being, Jordan Peterson suggests that you should consider your intelligence and personality and find a strata of occupation in which you would have an intelligence that would put you in the upper quartile. Because you don't want to be the stupidest guy in the room. You probably also don't want to be the smartest guy in the room, because it probably means you should be in a different room. Jordan Peterson shares a list of jobs within different IQ groups and discusses the problem of people with IQ of less than 87 and automation of the job market.
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I'm suffering from dementia, so I think my IQ would be perfect for the job of President of the United States
Likely still overqualified :)
Seems to be above average relative to these last few examples
You've got my vote!👏
Yup
COME ON MAN!
"Under 87? Is there something?"
Yes. TikTok.
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I feel like you're not that far from the truth lol
true watching retards on tiktok is really funny to me
How under 87 iq people cant even do the simple stuff in society.
Twitter
If you got an IQ from 0-1, you can always be an influencer.
@@RyolithRandil Hire some 1 a tiny smarter than you. Should be no problem! :D
OF is always hiring
Ive been formally tested a few months ago and my IQ is 125. Im a metallurgical engineer. I want to warn people about the dangers of high neurotism and low conscientiousness in the workplace. Its run me out of jobs because i couldnt bring myself to work hard enough and the stress became way too much. IQ isnt everything, especially if you just consume garbage on youtube all day instead of wisdom or something useful.
This was a great comment, thank you. I have an IQ of 120 and I share your same problem. I’m a mid neurotic and low conscientiousness. And I can tell you the low conscientiousness can undermine the high IQ because I have a bias for laziness, basically. It’s damn near impossible to change as well.
I can see where low conscientiousness would be dangerous in metallurgy. I wonder whether you have kept all your body parts.
I watch Rick and Morty so I think I'm safe.
Yeah completely true! I had something like 60 IQ before, but now I can talk with Stephen Hawking through telepathic field, ether, and cosmos. BTW, he is not dead, he just transcended to another dimension
@@sonofgreatsteppes9497 another dimension which u can access through WEED
IQ of 69 > IQ of 200
you're right, you'll never be expected to succeed. Enjoy those neetbux.
Lool
I have an IQ of 267, this really opened my eyes and convinced me to quit my job at mcdonalds. thank you.
Found a new job at Burger King?
😄
I think he’s at subway
it may be a purposely exaggerated joke, but I heard the highest iq ever recorded was 275. That's insane
Lol
Lots of IQ anecdotes here, so here's mine; I hated working in retail and factory jobs for years. Way too boring and understimulating. Turns out my IQ is about 119 and I work really well in IT, now a Linux Admin with some general programming skills. Much more suitable, I feel content now.
I’ve bounced around studying chemistry, languages and Business with ease, but always assumed I was stupid because that’s what my father told me as he is a farmer and my skills match nothing what he values. After traveling the world and years of therapy, I’ve come to establish that I only fit with those whose mind functions as mine does. Videos like this truly help.
thank you for your comment. I struggle with emotions and assertiveness so I get economically and emotionally abused. I got to work my ass off on the therapy, I'm super excited!
my IQ was around 70 so I will get in the ocean and join the dolphins
@Ti Klim that went from 0-100 real quick
Ya'll know WAY too much about dolphins. Also, their one of the only organisms that can go at it everyday without injuring themselves
Root those hot mermaids.. Bob
Dolphins are humans evolved, Bob.
Make a youtube video doing it and you'll probably get hella views. 🙂
I can boil eggs without hurting myself.
Which should I put in first, the eggs or the water?
This is something I’ve been working on for a while now but haven’t yet got right. I might try using a spoon to put the egg in next time, rather than my fingers.
I hope I can get over the fear of doing my first boiled egg. Maybe in a few years I can be like you. You've changed my life and I feel like I can conquer the world.
@@RickSanchezzzC137 it took alot of practice, went to Tibet for 5 years to master it, hang in there.
So, I can walk and breathe at the same time. Get your weight up.
I worked 84 hours a week for 2 years as a pharmacist. The pay was great. On the way home one morning I stopped at the light and thought I'd just "rest my eyes." The next thing I heard was a knock knock on the side window. A cop. He saw I was still in my jacket and let me go home, about another mile away. Working these kinds of hours isn't for everyone. I think the reason I did it was I hated my personal life.
interesring.
Crazy how everyone in this comment section seems to have a 125+ IQ lmao
Coping for the fact most people here are average idiots.
Love how everyone in the comments has a genius level iq. It makes this so much funnier.
They all watch Rick and Morty lmao
theres probably a pretty strong correlation between having a high IQ and clicking on videos about IQ, you know because people dont want to watch a video that tells them theyre dumb.
@@TheSuperappelflap truth
@@TheSuperappelflap I doubt it, it's probably a combination of the Dunning Kruger Effect and shitty online IQ tests
@@TheSuperappelflap Dumb people don't usually know they're dumb.
Imagine being in a room full of people, and they all start leaving one by one because they are the smartest person in the room…
exactly what i thought LOL
hahahaha
I think the key takeaway is that you'd prefer to not know you're the smartest
The few times in my life I realized that I was talking to someone near my own IQ were absolutely wonderful
New people would come up
Just to be the dumbest in another room
Thank you so much for your uplifting little talk, just what I needed to hear on a Christmas night. Happy new year to you too Jordan Peterson.
35 years old, scored a 133 on iq test in 8th grade when my mother strong armed my pediatrician into prescribing me adderal. I did terrible in school and wanted nothing more than to rebel and be an adult. I spent 20 years in kitchens worked my way up from dishwasher to white table cloth executive chef. Fell out of love with the industry many years ago and was terrible to work for, high standards. I’ve recently got in to sales, and the adage rings true - the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Sales is far more psychological than I could have imagined, and I understood going in that it was mental war fare.
Yes sales is way more complex than people give it credit for.
Psychology, empathy, life experience, market knowledge, product knowledge, the list is endless. It‘s not easy and it‘s not for everybody. Talent also plays a large role.
I too have an iq of 133ish (got officially tested for 133 but it depends on whether I‘m locked in or not and the type of test; I‘ve seen results as low as 130 and as high as 140 so idk), my math teacher issued that test in 6th grade because she was adamant I was too dumb for school and wanted to put me in special ed. End of the story was she lost her job over that and I got access to gifted kid classes. I‘m taking up econ classes next semester and am currently working as a salesman. This will probably be my career path going forward. Even though I‘d really like to fulfill my dream of becoming a material scientist.
“If you’re the smartest guy in the room, you’re in the wrong room” that’s fantastic advice, it’s amazing how so many people who were smart in school just stagnate because they have no ambition to do better
My observation is on 'smart in school' is quite different, I work with many. It seems to often be just good memory, sometimes just that highly driven. They come into the real work with no practical knowledge. And no understanding or intuition to apply the basics of their schooling to actual process. Often failing at the basics of first year concepts. Having the book knowledge to pass a test, with nearly zero actual understanding.
Maybe because the modern society has been shit-talking against IQ.
@@clytle374 memory is a key component of intelligence... Peterson talks about how one key predictor of future success is the number of digits one can keep in their head. However, true intelligence is the ability to create abstractions from specifics, and then to apply those abstractions in a different context to come up with different specifics. For instance, if your car doesn't start and you learn that it's because the battery is dead... and then you realize that all of the components of the electrical system need to be sufficient so when your friend's car doesn't start you can diagnose and fix a loose battery cable.
This idea of being 'book smart' but not intelligent is the lack of the ability to generalize, and then to be able to take general knowledge and synthesize an answer to a variant problem in the same or similar domain.
@@johnclifford1911 you are absolutely correct. A flash drive has excellent memory
this is so right. i went to a small private school most of my life, but about 2 years ago i moved and transferred to a big public school. at my private school i was the smartest, but when i moved i realized how many other ppl are at my level and it started to motivate me to do better
I have an IQ of 83 and this video helped me become aware of the reason that my job as a physics researcher was boring and not really stimulating. Ever since getting a job at Mc Donalds I feel like I started to develop and open up to new ideas.
Biggest troll ever. I love you man, you should be at the top of the comments❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂
#things that neber happened
83 damn I wish I was that smart
Set those goals, man. Head fryer. You can do it!!
I quit my old job (as machinist) and educated myself to a IT job (system integration) which is much more fun and interesting to me. I wasn't sure if I am smart enough for this job but I proved myself and it seems I am smarter than I anticipated. Still there are smarter people than me but that doesn't concern me, because I can finally do a job I love.
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I took an EMT class so I could become a fire fighter. Over 90% of the class was comprised of med students. They would shout out the answers to the multiple choice questions on the PowerPoint before I was done reading the question. I have a bachelors degree and went to a private high school and grade school. These kids just downloaded information so fast I knew there’s no way in hell I could or should be a doctor if that was my goal.
to be fair they are med students, they are much more familiar with the material than you, regardless of weather or not you hold a bachelors in another field.
@@user-ot3kx5ll7l appreciate that
@@user-ot3kx5ll7l memorization and competence are not the same
As a med student who took an EMT class I can also affirm that a lot of it is familiarity with the material beforehand. I still struggle with a lot of information, and it takes a long time to get the new stuff down!
I think social intelligence and charisma has a lot to do with moving up in a work environment. You can be really good at your job but if nobody likes you, you are going to have a difficult time advancing.
Story of my life
Yes. I wont be able to become a manager in my company because I dont have a private life, at least not one other managers could relate to me with. This makes me an outcast they dont welcome in their circles.
Depends what sort of job you are doing and the scale of the company. At large multinational companies there is no one incompetent at executive level because bad decisions cost the board and investors billions of dollars, also the problems they deal with will be much harder due to the size of the company. On the other hand i can totally see a dumb ass becoming manager at a small firm due to favoiritism
yeah what he failed to mention is that most higher jobs deal with social mechanisms not technical and decision making, you have lot of company owners and high ranking people who are very not smart and know nothing about the technical or strategical side of things, they just work it up socially and by political play inside the company, you can`t make your best programmer into the boss, cause if you do who is going to program??? so you make the worst programmer into the boss, he just have to be somewhat social, and the less smart you are the more likely you are to be good at socializing and being extroverted, and them you just hire smart people to do the technical things, the only place where thing will really require someone smart again is in the top CEO and the like positions, because he has to take decisions on a strategic level and change the whole company before competition outruns it.
And you forgot looks
My IQ is 200. That’s according to my bathroom scale any way.
damn bro. Im 130. Though over here we use metric IQ.
Mine says, "One at a time!"
@@thecarman3693 that shows you have multiple intelligences.
Hahahaha
Your humor IQ is 500
What he's saying has come to fruition. I find myself needing to learn more and more skills for the lowest paying jobs. How much do these people want?! So in my job class, low white collar, he's completely accurate.
I considered myself a little above average intelligence but I've been in rooms full of engineers and researchers and felt like the special ed kid in the corner
I'm an engineer and when I first joined my company I thought I was in over my head. Then after a couple years I realized I was surrounded by people that were in over their heads too which made me highly competent among my peers lol
this from the group that builds us bridges and airplanes.....
@@robbybee70 The engineers that build bridges are licensed and intern for 5 years. They are highly competent. The engineers that build planes and rockets are usually mentored and work on subsystems and learn as they go. They are highly competent. I'm one of those people that have worked on rockets AND bridges......I'm highly competent.
@@billgillette2859 and yet the humor of my post went right over your head.....
@@robbybee70 few engineers actually build the thing they design.
@@SynFlowers *rubs head* tough room.....tough room
IQ has become a taboo topic, but you can't get away from it. I always thought I was pretty smart until I started working and encountered some people who could grasp things much easier and quicker than me, even if I had more experience. It just amazed me how obviously more naturally talented they were. That being said, I've noticed my natural competency varies widely across different domains/disciplines. The best you can do is play to your strengths.
Well said
Just know that hard work will never let you down
@@kaydens6964
You clearly never attempted anything hard.
Your hard work ammounts to absolutely nothing if you are too dumb for the problem. You could sit there for a year and don't derive a solution that another person gets within moments.
Please feel free to review my videos on 'succeeding without brilliance'. I am about to release a few lectures, focusing on how cognitive pariahs can find solace in a world, alien to them otherwise.
Ahh a jack of all trades person.
An interesting thing about IQ is that it varies depending on environment and situation, especially if you are not very stress tolerant. I generally score around 140 - 145 on tests but I have a reasonably low stress tolerance, which means I literally cant think straight in a stressful environment. The interesting part is that you could find people way less intellectually gifted than me, that would do better at jobs that require high stress tolerance. Social anxiety plays a big part in that for me.
IQ theory is garbage. Too many pitfalls
I got 112 when I took one. I get so stressed doing tests that I smoked weed on all my exams last semester, so I go all A's vs. my usual B's and C's on exams 💀. It was accounting, stats, and eco classes.
At least I have 0 social anxiety, and I excel in social situations. I've also somehow always ended up in leadership roles (team captain of sports, managing at work, managing school projects, and I'm typically the person that talks in presentations).
I’m the same way. I’m more intelligent than most people but I can’t deal with stress, so I blame social anxiety for my failures.
Yeah sure buddy 145 IQ...
This is so true. I have an absolute "high-IQ-job", but the other day I was at a really packed restaurant and the waiter's job appeared SO stressful to me, I couldn't have done it even for 2 hours. No chance.
I've been overqualified for my jobs but due to life circumstances I have been stuck in a very low class of thinkers and labor, its been absolute hell but I've outlived those people and I'm essentially retired now with health issues stemming from too much contact with ignorant idiots and insane people.
This video is pretty accurate. I worked in biotech, but lost my job during covid. To make some money while searching for another job, I started delivering packages for an Amazon contractor. I didn't think it was a very difficult job, yet I was always the #1 driver out of 50 people (based on performance metrics). In biotech, I was an average worker, but at the package delivery company, I was a superstar. It was a fun job while it lasted, but eventually I was hired in biotech again, which paid substantially more. You definitely don't want to be the smartest employee in your company.
Did you try acting?
@@michael4192 i think he might have. Not sure
I can definitely relate. I graduated in May 2020 with my bio degree, but there were no lab jobs available at that time -- especially for someone who just finished school. I did EMS for a while, it was in demand and medical-adjacent, but oh my god... during tech school and during my employment, the people I worked and trained with were dumb as bricks sometimes. Just, plainly incompetent, couldn't handle pressure, sucked at taking vitals, I would have to do everything. That wasn't with every partner mind you, but on average...
I'm back in the lab now, and it's heaven compared to being on an ambulance. Dealing with competent folk seriously is a blessing. Makes me feel for all the truly smart people that get pigeon-holed into these menial positions.
@Vlad Xavier quadratics is like grade 10 math
@@gurgy3 and what's that?
Literally every comment: "Oh yeah, I have an IQ of 163, and I realized a few years ago that my job as a biotech researcher just wasn't really stimulating me enough."
You only see comments about people's own IQ being above average because the ones having an average IQ are insecure seeing the others, it makes them feel dumb and have no point of writing about jobs because they may think it fits them already.
Drawing from my knowledge of the idiocy of internet comments over 20 years, it is really hard to evaluate those kinds of comments. There's so many other instances of lying and exaggeration on the internet that believing these elitist "I made 7 figures out of college" posts just scream vulnerable person trying to concoct a self-important image on internet comment boards lol. Of course, I don't know for sure, but my intuition tells me at least half of those messages are, to use the technical term, bullshit.
The dude who thinks nobody lies on the internet probably has a high one.
@@lmUndefeated no need to feel insecure... they're lying people with an IQ over 160 is statistically proven to be excruciatingly rare.
It's because IQ is shit measure of intelligence ...
I have always thought that this is one of the ways we are failing the younger generations ( at least here in Canada). We put so much emphasis on getting kids through school while never really teaching them about concepts like how IQ and basic psychology/ inter-personal skills effect our earning potential.
Yes, because Peterson says that IQ is set in stone, therefore IQ is set in stone and we can teach kids about what Jordan Peterson says because all the psychologists that disagree with the concept of IQ are wrong. Only Jordan Peterson is right. Correct?
You know, I hate the left but this guy's arrogance has risen so high that I'm starting to side with them when it comes to disliking Peterson.
If we teach a hundred Kids the teachings of an idiot what do we get?
@@edelfelix7333 what we have now
Spending less time on gender re-evaluation and other "woke" issues and teaching more practical and USEFUL subjects... like math, the sciences and phonics... might be a step in the right direction.
You know, there's meaning behind sayings like "in the RIGHT direction" and "being out in LEFT field".
And school isn't set up for the high IQ and/or creative. Midwit heaven
IQ Problem: I agree with Jordan that there is some value in a numeric IQ score. The problem with IQ scores is they are not consistent and fail to measure motivation and creativity. I was tested (3) times with 3 different results in my youth and the range: was considerable 115-139. Fifty years later I am retired comfortably and evidence (portfolio and resume) suggests I am capable enough, likely around the 90th. percentile. I quit High School and still managed to become a manufacturing engineer with a Fortune 500 Co. and I later built a successful small business from scratch and I also did well-dabbling part-time in Real estate. In social circles, I am comfortable with friends holding Masters and Ph.D. Education? There is no degree on my wall and my education is mostly informal and I am highly critical of our public school system. I would argue about half the time I spent in a classroom was wasted. If you wish to be successful, study success. Above all, choose your company wisely! (I could write a book as to that and probably should.) Cheers!
Yes! I definitely agree that it doesn’t measure motivation. My IQ is 149 according to an official test I took this year. I am 14 years old (still in school) and I really dislike it. I’m not motivated at school because I don’t see the point. My passion doesn’t lie in academics or a “smart person” career. I love athletics and working out. I want to become professional in my sport. According to the final exams at my school, I’m not as smart as the people with IQs of 130. However, the results are that way because I wasn’t motivated enough to study, and was sure I would do well (which I did, just not the best in the class)
@@LuluClimber There are definitely aspects about "giftedness" that are or can become challenges in your life. One of those aspects, for example, often is the lack of practise in how to learn and manage learning. The mind gets to the conclusion so fast it doesn't desire those in between steps most people have to take. This takes away on the practice of learning itself. Learning isn't just knowing stuff by memory. It's also knowing how to get to the answer or result following certain steps. One aspect in those steps is management of information. School trains this as well. Now you can pass the exam by raw brainpower (maybe not the best in the class just as you stated), but as you move on life will get more complicated. A lot of gifted people can go through life not feeling particularly smart or intelligent just because of this aspect. I'd say you're doing the right thing following what motivates you instead.
@@LuluClimber yes iq does not predict contentiousness.
@@marklampo8164 You are right, but you will hurt someones ego
sure but you missed the beginning part of Jordan's talk about personality traits. Also based on your IQ range, you are doing something well within that range. Not exactly a high end type of thing being a manufacturing engineer
"You don't want to be the stupidest guy in the room" That's going to be me when I start my new job as a software engineer. Oof
You never know. Even if everyone has more experience than you, they could still be stupid.
@@kaylag5043 isn't that the cold hard truth
Experience and intelligence is different
Depends where you work. Most software engineers are pretty trash
Thats not being the stupidest guy its being the most inexperienced in the room
I wish my IQ was “rich parents” .
Right... because there's so many stories of success from people who won the lottery. There's also no stories of artists losing all their money, that's just a myth. If you are aiming for having a rich parent, you should as well wish to live in a monarchy, so your money will be protected regardless of how dumb you are.
You know that IQ is a way better predictor of success in life than income of parents?
Nice cope bro
@@csPinKie if you can’t pay for a good education to nurture your high IQ, you’re getting nowhere. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know.
@@gr02mc I dont see how that is an argument, it is incredibly easy to get your education for free if you are extremely talented.
I have worked my whole life to try and get rich parents I know I am also there.
I have two issues with IQ tests: 1) they vary quite a bit. My lowest score was 116 and my highest was 156. The 116 was the last from a series of tests from Eysenck's book Know Your Own IQ. I scored about 124 in the others. The 156 was in a MENSA test under exam conditions, and it was not a fluke because I scored 148 to be invited for the test. I think the Eysenck scores are much more realistic. 2) Average IQ tests vary a lot from country to country. They are about 106 in China, 100 in Britain, 70 in large parts of Africa and 50 in Nepal. I think this is likely to reflect the standard of teaching in those countries. If the average IQ was really 50 in Nepal then there would be hardly any Nepalese people bright enough to become soldiers, but Ghurkhas are renowned for being great soldiers.
Where is the source for this?
it obviously is not perfect.
The official mensa test does not give a score to the taker
@@thehollowknerd3858 Maybe not now, but they did when I took the test about 30 years ago.
@@KevTheImpalertaking a real iq test cost so much. And you took like 6?
"You don't want to be the stupidest guy in the room, that's a bloody bad place to be." LOL!
Yeah, the icing on the cake is everyone else knows who that person is except for them! 😅
I have an IQ of 136 and have an undergraduate degree in physics as well as a law degree. I was a lawyer for 20 miserable years. I finally discovered that I am not equipped to handle stress and value my free time more than money. I now work a job that I know is beneath me intellectually at 1/2 the pay and have never been happier. Peace of mind, for me, is of the utmost value. There is truth to the old adage that no one on their death bed ever said I wished I’d have worked more.
I couldn't deal with stress either I had to stop. You're right
This has always been my mindset. I'd much rather have a job that doesn't pay as much if it is less stressful and I don't have to take anything home with me at the end of the day. Money is a means to an end, not the end all be all for me.
@@abrahamalsaeedi8745 Believe it or not I work at a public utility wastewater plant doing a variety of things from laboratory work, equipment repair, to plant operations. I work outside most of the time and never bring my work home with me. The best as I’m sure you will appreciate is no clients to deal with.
Reflection is more important than Intelligence to be happy and also to have success in long terms. Many Intelligent people never reflected themselves.
Its the same to me. I value a lot more my free time and peace of mind than money.
My iQ went up just by saying “leisure” like him
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Whats so special about his pronunciation of leisure? I really dont get it
English is not my native language
@@CRegensche1n he’s pronouncing it in British English which sounds more astute
@@CRegensche1n nothing special, it's the way it's supposed to be pronounced. I guess the people laughing are Americans, which says it all.
@@HH_1988 Careful mate, your arrogance is showing.
This was an awesome breakdown. I just completed an IQ test and this explained my feelings on my prior career path as well as why I’m grown bored these days and looking for change. This was very helpful! Thank you.
Now it seems I don’t even need to take an IQ test. I can look at this diagram, compare it with my job and how good/bad I know that I am, and see my IQ to within a few points.
What IQ test did you take? Was it free?
"why I'm grown board"
I can't imagine the score was very high, was it?
If you have dyslexia you can actually score above average on some tests that are only defecting for general intelligence and you would still struggle to perform at an average IQ job on his list.
This does make sense. When I worked in warehousing I hated my job and felt I worked for some of the dumbest people in society. Now that I’m a nurse I feel more at home with my peers. When I tested for my IQ it was 125.
That’s interesting 🧐 I got my BA in accounting and worked 5 years in public accounting/corporate finance before quitting due to not feeling like I fit in culturally with those around me. Now I’m a warehouse manager and I absolutely love the work and the “blue collar” people I work with.
To each his/her own!
I have an IQ of 136... and I absolutely 'love' my job at McDonald's 😅😅😅 just kidding, I'm 48 and I don't work at all😊
... by choice😉
@@stefandomeier1911I’m the opposite. I went from doing Fire protection (sprinklers, alarms etc) which is very blue collar and I didn’t like the culture and people. I went into IT and love it.
@@davidhenningson4782the true test of intelligence is being smart enough to not have to work.
I'm an Electrician. A late bloomer. I wish I had entered the trades right out of high school (which would have given me more options after some years, I entered the field at 30). The money is very good, but the work hardly takes any intellectual exertion. I'm usually the 1# guy on my crew, the foreman's right-hand man. Foreman have more responsibility and more intellectual work, and it probably would suit me, depending on the project. , but I enjoy being able to listen to podcasts, sermons and audiobooks during the day - practically studying while working. The job is not draining at all and I'm able to come home and work on intellectual things, and also give my full attention to my wife. So it works for me. I know If I had a more intellectually stimulating position, I would have less to offer my wife and family after my work is done.
One of the highest IQ people in the world worked as a bouncer at a bar.
@@DavidOfTheSouth just know med school is long and tough. A lot of people don't finish then get stuck with the debt. Know your self and if you have the maturity and endurance to make it through the or program. But I wouldn't waste your scholarship either
@@geraldfrost4710 Yep, his name escapes me, but he's a savant. He was read at the age of two. Incredible. But I understand why he has a simple job. Its sad how his solutions to many of math's most difficult unaswered problems have been rejected and gone unpublished because he's not of their ilk, not having gone through the academy. They academies of Austria and Europe rejected Einstien as well at first. He had a heck of a time getting published - Godel too.
@@DavidOfTheSouth I agree with Wesley Owens. Don't waste the scholarship. Becoming a sergeon is very honorable but intense and requires steady hands, nerves and a sharp mind. If you have what it takes, please go for it. We can use all the gifted hands we can get!
Becoming an Electrician (especially if you join the Union as I did eventually, or become a contractor - if you've got the entrepenuer itch) can be quite lucrative, depending on where you live (New York, San Fran, San Jose, and across the SF Bay pay the most and many electrician travel to these place- especially these CA locations as the pay is 2-3x more - though these area are harder for small contractors - small cites and right to work states are more conducive for this). It is rewarding, and there are lost of opportunities for advancement once you've become a Journyman. You always work with a team of folks, so the commradere is cool. Let this be you plan B. But get your degree if its for free. Set your mind to it, stay focused and dont give up. You can do it, and look to God and your community for support.
May you achieve your goals - and dont let the girls distract you, get established in your career first and then choose the woman you want to build a future with, marry her and devote your life to her and your family. You wont regret it. God bless.
I can 100% relate... im driving a Volvo Wheel loader 😂 and listen to podcasts and audiobooks all day... For years i was the guy who did it all at the job site, but i always felt like im waisting my time because job isn't satisfying and at end of the day doesn't really get me any where, but at least now im somewhat satisfied because i can actually "use" my time meaningfully behind the wheel of the loader 😂.. higher education didn't do much for me since i graduated in 2011 in the middle of recession 🤷🏻♂️
I did an IQ test one day. I scored 87. I've studied Theoretical Physics at university and I'm a software engineer now. So I may not be a psychologist or so but either something is wrong with IQ tests or I'm the smartest stupid guy ever.
was the IQ test time base or do it as you can ? i kinda suck at ones that limit the amount of time i have to answer a question but if i have all the time i need, score higher.
@@bencoad8492 I'm a fast thinker, but there appears to be an inverse correlation with the speed and complexity of which a mind can handle.
Having studied something doesn't mean you were any good at it. And starting your comment "Id did an IQ test one day" isn't strengthening your case. I see why you would want to discredit the tests though.
@@kronk358 Yea...I'm a french native speaker and " did " and " passed " can be used the same way in french. But as you judge the intelligence based on a grammar mistake without knowledge of this person's background, I understand why you would want to give credit to IQ test. And yes, I never put any effort in w/e I did in my life. I never studied at home. I never took anything seriously. I didn't even took seriously this IQ test and answered randomly to some questions as it was just too boring to solve the problems. The only thing I've put effort into is programming, because I like it. Many people are like me and don't give a shit of social recognition. Which all these scores, grades and bullshit are about: Social credit and social recognition.
@@kronk358 You are so petty for using grammar as an argument
Don’t think I’m very far above average intelligence. But I’m very driven and work harder then most (: got into investment banking and now private equity. I owe a huge thanks to Jordan because he taught me I was capable of it and drove me to work to reach my dreams.
Great video - made me really think 👍
I'm in the 85th percentile. I'm an assistant carpet installer. My value is in lifting more than my bodyweight, booting on stairs, and never needing to eat lunch. My only required intellectual feat is refiguring jobs to verify that the shop's measurements are correct. The job is not very stimulating, but I often get home by noon. So I can spend time reading, writing, and making music. As a teen I was fairly proficient in C sharp and C ++ coding. Along with flash animation, art, poetry, and music theory. I went to college for sound engineering but dropped out because of substance abuse and mental health issues. Now I fit a mean rug... It ain't much but it's honest work.
Perfect, you've found something that works for you. I personally don't think a job HAS TO BE immensely intellectually stimulating, so long as you get that from some other area of your life (e.g. the process of making music)
How did you get your IQ authoritatively tested? Just curious if you have any interesting resources I am unaware of.
You sound like a non hyper conscientious person so those kinda jobs are actually perfect man look at engineers or electricians and shit like that's actually requires a fair amount of intelligence but nothing brain breaking glad you love your work man
@@BuddyLee23 are you a doll collector?
We are all fitting rugs to some degree
Engineers are some of the smartest and dumbest people I know
@ThatOne its because speaking as an engineer (mechanical) as well as a tradesman (welder/fabrication) most engineers have never worked a day in their life. What I mean is they have only ever had in class knowledge which is why the running joke is if you cant make it as an engineer you become a civil engineer and just approve plans. But all engineers who are only book smart and don't understand field conditions or people are the reason things fail. Take wind turbines when they explode into flames, why do you think that happens? Because during the test the engineer ask well whats the highest winds and temperature in the area and what are the chances it will occur to justify the cost. Anything over 10 percent justifies the cost anything under does not so if the chance of a freak storm coming in is low they don't guard against it and the turbine will fail. Or they don't account for people. And humans will stress things to the max, which is why tension straps labeled at 5k pull actually can go to 6 or 8k but they dont say that because they know humans will only go slightly above the max if on there by a few hundred. Hence why smart people tend to be world dumb. Im not that smart myself, but I love being a mechanical engineer and fabricating my own things. Got certified as a welder just so i could make and sell my what I want or travel and work incase something happens.
@@TyphusVonElder
That sounds cool? What sorts of stuff do you make?
There’s this dude on UA-cam named michaelcthulhu who makes weapons out of junk and scrap for fun / to sell them. He calls himself a “welder of sorts.” Then there’s that Wintergatan dude who made the musical marble machine that went viral a few years back. I’ve always found it interesting when people have the skills to just make whatever they want no matter how crazy.
@@redking36 as my side job/hobby i make lift kits for trucks, custom tables/counter tops and making custom weight racks all locally here in Hawaii. I used to do pipeline welding while I waited for my current job as an engineer for a fire trainer for the navy.
If you are gonna take up welding its all about technique. Once you learn your rhythm and understand how much heat to apply the rest comes. Remember to clean the metal, have a wire wheel and sanding disc for the grinder and stay as long as you can in the class and burn as much rods as you can to learn.
@@TyphusVonElder fucking true. That’s exactly what my professor in Materials Testing said. When you see a limit for a certain material, that’s only the yield limit or the rounded down number. You never refer to maximum limit because that exact reason. If I’m gonna design something, I’ll set the worst possible conditions and worst quality material as the base.
Pi=3
Awesome video I loved watching this
Had to take several IQ tests and the results varied extremely from 85 up to almost 140... Almost no result in the middle
So I probably should work sometimes at McDonald's and sometimes at NASA
honestly, i'm probably pretty low iq, it took failing lots of harder jobs to get me where im working in a concrete pool factory labouring. Suprisingly enough im actually smart enough and fit enough to be good at it which is odd because im 30 and never been good at a job in my life. Being realistic with who i am led to me being able to keep a job and be proud of myself. Altho the 55 hour work weeks in aussie heat are tiring, im proud of myself.
And you should be proud... Having a high IQ does not define you as a person. It describes one component (intelligence) but doesn't account for common sense, motivation, dedication, integrity, etc. The fact that you're enjoying your job is what's important, and that enjoyment will generally flow over into other aspects of life. Being "smart" isn't everything. In my experience, the smartest people have generally been the most miserable.
@@MackLee23 that's a really nice thing of you to say.
Atleast you were smart enough to figure it out, it's tiring to be in 2 hour coaching sessions in a room full of engineering aspirants
@@havanax8096 haha engineers are hella smart i legit see maths and science as another language its impossible for me to get my head around . Anyone who even tries that shit has my upmost respect
Now expand your network, start your own contracting firm. And boom you're rich. Easier said than done but my point is low iq and rich aren't mutually exclusive.
When your IQ is in the 95th percentile, but ADHD has you working in the 30th percentile
Yeah but you get a massive boost to creativity. You just have to make it work in your favor.
That was literally me after dropping out of college
@@Thelunarraptor adhd doesn't make you creative. It's a serious impairment that needs treatment....
Or when you graduate with straight As and a PhD so you know you're gifted in that regard. But your social IQ and aniexty are so horrible that you settle with what you have so you don't freak your brain out.
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I would argue intelligence is the ability to see what nobody else sees, adapt and work around those around you.
Love this guys lectures ❤
I cry when I chop carrots in case the onions think they're ugly or something
That's a smart move
Ngl you are the smartest guy here
Smort
aww...
You know this grouping is bonkers, when data entry is higher than a mechanic and and mechanics are grouped together with unskilled worker.
yeah its not accurate to real life
The grouping is arbitrary and probably not backed by actual reserach and just speculation on his part. However the general ideas are very important: getting jobs for low IQ people is a hard social problem, high IQ tech geeks which will automatize much more work than ever before in the next decades are a problem, being too smart or too stupid for your job is a problem that can cause mental health issues. It's hard to generalize to whole classes of jobs and most jobs will differ due to the specific work environment, structure of the company, local economic situation and so.. I guess the point is that you should start to worry if you are in the right job if feel that you are either over- or underwhelmed by it. Which isn't necessarily a groundbreaking advice or a genius insight by Peterson either.
I think that he had the old data. The job had became more complex with time.
@@lampyrisnoctiluca9904 no matter the time or region, specific job and unskilled labor can't be in the same difficulty bracket
@Ha Ha unskilled labor is a job that you dont need any prior knowlege in order to preform the task. There is no shame in doing theese things and those who do theese things for a living are not dumb. But the whole point of unskilled labor is that anyone who is mentally and physically sound person can do it.
I was evaluated to have an iq around 125 back when I was in middle school, I believe it to be somewhere in the 130 range now, went to college for engineering, working in a safeway as a cashier for min.wage..😔I feel so alone regardless of having non-stop interactions with the public on a daily basis
Apparently my iq is “exceptional” but I’m failing math cuz I don’t study. So I should obv go work at McDonald’s!
@@evlx1240 It doesn't matter how gifted you are if you're too lazy to use it.
Is it a coincidence that every single person in this comment section has an IQ above 120? I don’t know if I can believe you or not. Anyone can say anything on the Internet.
I have been tested and my IQ is 205. Am I lying or not? Probably, but it might still be true.
I have hppd from using lsd and a dissociative. You can understand that while your on these two combos of drug types will make you think you know everything. And whenever my hppd flash backs come back I can get super focused and there really common in social situations
As an engineer I want to believe it's more than just IQ. I remember back in college I'd walk by the labs and you'd see the same people studying just grinding away for hours and hours. I noticed it's really two camps people who learned quickly and got on with class and those who were gritty and persistent and learned what was asked that ultimately graduated.
In community college I see some people were faster than others but not by a lot. I think people rarely studied. In university almost everyone seem to be around same speed. Possibly because everyone is above average iq. Above average function brains arent all that different right? Learn too fast you know too many useless details. Learn too slow and you know nothing. Most of difference should be from hours studied. I studied around 5 hours daily and got mostly top grades.
I studied my ass off in college. Definitely requires persistence. Most people are just too lazy to graduate
Peterson explains that it's more than just about IQ
Grind all you want, but you have to have the capacity to comprehend the subject. I've seen amny people grind harder than I did for an associates degree and they didnt make it.
Absolutely, @Landril. Discipline and grit make the difference between a brilliant underachiever and an average person who succeeds.
I never truely understood the differences in intelligence before I took some maths classes at university. There is vast, vast gaps. There is people, who solve a problem in seconds on which I sat half a day. And they are relatively dumb compared to the top dogs at the uni. And those again are far inferior to peolpe like Van Neumann or Gauss. It's like looking up Mt Everest from the valley.
Please feel free to review my videos on 'succeeding without brilliance'. I am about to release a few lectures, focusing on how cognitive pariahs can find solace in a world, alien to them otherwise.
Yeah, but maths is also pure theoretical. I’ve met those same kind of people that solve equations in an instant, but never change the oil in their car until it breaks down on the side of the road. They also typically have a hard time conveying the information to others.
@@NNNMTWRH71 Absolutely NOT true.
So if you're over IQ130, yet still too dumb to work out what would fit you best, what would you suggest?
Asking for a friend!
@@NNNMTWRH71 You can't learn speed and that is one of the things that seperate people. Most problems have some algorithm you can learn and get better at, but the most intelligent people figure it out faster.
Most engineers scientist etc. can't even touch any of trades , mechanic, electrican, machinist, etc. They can design something but can't build it.
What about people who have IQ's in the 105-110 range but claim to be above 145? I've met quite a few of them.
They are dishonest to themself that make them fall into selfishness
It is important to discern between intelligence and wisdom. I have observed many intelligent people who were utter fools in life, and I was one when I was young. And I have observed many average intelligent people who were wise and built wealth more effectively than those more intelligent who were typically far more educated. And perseverance is also an important factor in success.
What you have observed, if it didn't already occur to you, is the difference between a liberal and everybody else.
@@sonnydelight5737 The very implication that there is a pure and clear difference between the value or lack thereof regarding one group versus all other people on the planet is the dumbest thing I wish I'd never have to hear again.
Intelligent people don't build wealth. They make sure they get enough, plus a bit in reserve just in case. What's the point in collecting wealth, except bragging rights? If you have enough, is doing what you love to do not more important?
Yeah exactly, well-educated doesn’t always mean you’re high in Intelligence. Shaun Wallace who is a quiz master on the chase and was a mastermind champion had an IQ of around 100. He is a criminal barrister to profession as well.
@@annekekramer3835 You and your wife can live out your years in peace, comfort, and dignity. You can give to all your chosen causes. You can leave behind a financial legacy to your heirs and to your chosen causes. I wouldn't say to remain in a job that you hate, but there had better be a market willing to pay enough for what you choose to do. Your language gives me the impression that you are not plugged into the principles of personal finance. I recommend that you look up Dave Ramsey. He sure helped me.
My iq is 85 and I’m a registered nurse. Guess I’m doing alright for myself.
@Ha Ha ha ha
@Ha Ha he didn't get it.
@Ha Ha ha ha
I did some semi-official could have been 100% legit and got 87... But the thing is i was so drunk i had to close one eye so i could read the damn questions 😂... I've done official test in my younger days and know the "ballpark" range im at and you can at least 30 points to my drunken score... But I've decided that im never going to find out the exact number, because it doesn't matter to me, I've been called "extremely intelligent" by multiple people and it has usually happened in extremely stressful situations where i broke out of character.... I've learned to"play dumb" to get along, sadly it's a must where i live...
You’re lying, that’s too low
Im a nuclear scientist, then i took an IQ test and it was only 80. I lost confidence and started screwing up , was fired and got a job sweeping at McDs . Am allright now
Same, I was a renown high rep eletrical engineering executive till a took an iq test... scored a 78. Lost everything... My house... wife.... Kids... Till I picked up a cashier job at McDanks! Never been Happier!
I have an IQ of 98 and I can excel in complex Physics and mathematics, I got an A in Chemistry and Anatomy and also an A+ in anatomy 2. I scored high on my standardized testing as well so I’m not sure exactly what it does measure
I'm tired of being the weakest guy in the room. I'm totally in over my head. The stress is almost unbearable. I need to watch this over and over. Thanks..
That means your IQ is very low
What if you are intelligent but you have 0 tolerance to stress? You could aim lower but then you'll be bored all your life, or you can go and fulfill your potential but feel miserable because of stress all along. Dilemma dilemma 🤔
Well, basically, you are waiting to die. Avoid excitement or avoid stress. If you involve yourself with humans there will be stress. Perhaps a researcher at a distance arctic station.
@@thomasmaughan4798 very true, you can't hijack feeling uncomfortable without sacrificing your life as a result. I'm actually thinking about doing my PhD, that's what I was talking about in the comment.
I would say take jobs for which you are barely qualified and where there is a lot to learn, but the pace isn't insane and neither is the heavy lifting. When you master that job, go get a different one. Do not let them "promote" you to management. You're a thinker, a problem solver. You likely prefer to work alone with minimal supervision, but with ready access to information and guidance.
Become a front-end developer. I'm only half joking.
life doesn't have to be boring just cause you choose not to be ambitious. you can manage your stress while challenging yourself imo.
As an European / Croatian my IQ peaked at current between 95 and 97 I finished with finantial help of parents in medical area Physiotherapist bu the more I think I want pursue a Collage on Postdiplomatic Psyhology, I am also connected to Philosophy, Religion and something that eases my mind is Music (Classical) and Art Studies, Nature also helps in a way to demolish stress from work and these 3 help me to stay much more open minded, even tho my IQ is between 95 and 97 my EQ is on high 138 - 140
Great information. I hope I’ve heard this before.
I always thought I was really smart until I studied Mathematics at a top University. Being the small fish in a big pond is not fun.
Funny. I was the opposite. I find Uni stuff too easy.
@@janewick509 I'm studying mathematics in a good university and even those who are really good (and I'm not kidding, these guys are just insane) never said "I find it too easy". I can hardly believe your words
@@janewick509 maybe you just went to a garbage university
this was exactly my experience, it was good made me humble
@@janewick509 oh, well then you must've developed some new, groundbreaking theorems!
This is the most convoluted way of saying "know your place"
Its an extrapolated way of telling you to "find" your place. People don't just walk out their doors knowing things. Sometimes you have to be told.
That is all peterson is really pushing. Just rationalizing the social structure. He is a complete fraud
Going through training for a design engineering position building blueprints. The leadership and training system is atrocious, and the learning curve is steep. I’m 3 weeks in and seem to be passing people who have been on training for a month longer than me; however, it’s still difficult enough to make me question my own intelligence. Definitely feeling the stress, but thankfully it’s a mostly repetitive job once you reach the top of the initial learning curve. There are some creative elements, and a need for creative problem solving, so I’m hoping it’ll be a good fit in the long run.
I think regarding work, well since I am not an employee yet but I what I noticed personally what stress and really anxious feelings come from are things or work that you don't know very much well or don't know how things work with them or if not you personally at least with your group members. Social loafing, free rider and sucker effect all are like both the cause and what causes some stress that later are hard to handle because personally I handle things pretty well in things I am familiar with the workings as well as people who know what they are working with that they are not just a yes people that will freaking leave all the work to you later on, that sucks and costs you your mental health specially when you displace negative emotions on people or relationships that's supposed to be your comfort and support
being a congressperson in safe district is a good job for the 85 and below crew. They just need to follow party platform, occasionally talk in committee, and vote what the whips tell them to vote.
Good observation, probably pretty accurate
Unironically
My IQ tested in at 130 when I was a kid but I don't like spending my whole waking life on the job. I like to have my hobbies. So I ended up as a truck driver, and I just keep my costs low by keeping everything minimalist, having a roommate in the cheapest apartment I could find, driving a car that doesn't break down a lot, and staying out of debt. My dream is to buy a piece of land out in Southern Oregon and build a small meadery on it. I want to raise the bees that make the honey, and cultivate a semi-wild field of wildflowers and a fruit orchard and a grove of oak trees for the acorns and the wood. I want to sell Iberian ham, artisan mead, ciders, and maybe charcoal.
I was watching a documentary the other day about a leading cardiovascular surgeon who almost became a truck driver because he liked the idea of seeing different places.
@@Hypersonik he could literally, still do that.
@@lavonnealexander6936 Yeah, he absolutely could.
Based
Sounds like the life I would want to live.
Intellect may not always be the case in the working society, because experience can overtake intelligence. That's how society is in the medical field, the less experienced you are, the less likely you'll be doing any complex or surgical activities without guidance or working under someone's shadow.
No wonder I was miserable doing factory work when I was younger. I'm much happier being 4 levels higher than this. Been working on hitting the next level. I have an IQ to be up on top but bad decisions in my youth (rebelliousness) and old age and having poor health now makes it more difficult to get there. Poor choices, external life experiences and other factors can reduce the ability to get the most out of one's intelligence.
I loved factory work, I am not sure i want to tell you my IQ. It was just an example of not having my brain overthink.
nothing worse than being the smartest person at a company and realizing that nobody else is smart enough to notice it and take your ideas seriously
@Wary Trout wi shuld linkup, me hev 42.0 iq, veri persuasiv smart persen yes
Boy do I relate to your comment.
Sure, buddy
You just described, in 26 words, what I suffered through in five years of being Enlisted in the Army.
edgy comment bro mr super megamind man
I think one very important aspect of high-competence jobs that people don't discuss enough is stress tolerance. This is just from my own experience in business but as someone who has been around for a bit having a high stress tolerance is really important. I've seen plenty of people smarter than myself fall out because they screwed up due to pent up stress.
I think you're right, I have a slightly higher IQ than my wife, she earns over 4 times what I earn. She can handle high levels of stress, I'm the opposite tho, I worry and get stressed very easily sadly.
That’s me, I have a hair trigger temper and I have no tolerance for people who don’t give the effort. But I’m clearly top of thefood chain at my job and it’s not a fun spot to be. People are jealous and lie about you and actively try to undermine you. I never knew the amount of jealousy just because you know what you are doing. I can have the emotional intelligence of a simpleton because I’m not wired for jealousy or stupidity or laziness. I can be 100% correct on whatever position I take on a given challenge but my lack of the ability to put up with stupidity and my short fuse to let others even my superiors know has gotten me in more trouble lately than anything. I get it it no likes a know it all but I know the profits and revenue that I generate for the company and it’s probably at least double what the next closest person does. I think it might be time for me to broaden my horizons and look for the next opportunity.
That is definitey important.
@@keithchegwin1222 how much does she earn, or what field is she in?
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Very educational perspective on a topic that honestly doesn't get as much attention as it should.
My theory on his quote "if you're the smartest person in the room, then you're in the wrong room" is that many people (especially nowadays) tend to get complacent in positions where they easily excel at rather than try to step up to more challenging positions and out of their comfort zones, they much prefer to stay in these positions and remain on the top of that scale (aka big fish in small pond).
Being in a job that is constantly challenging sounds exhausting.
Having an IQ of 200 has made me the smartest person in the room most of the time. Being around people has always been outside my comfort zone. And lastly where in the world am I supposed to go find people smarter than I am.? I'm an intellectual not educated. I never found school interesting for the most part it was memorization of stuff much of which was propaganda and nonsense. So I have no credentials or specialty which might expose me to the other cursed people. The thing I find rather charming is having people with absolutely no concept of what a curse it is to know or be able to extrapolate facts, truth, concepts better than/beyond anyone you know. I literally do not know a single person I can have meaningful conversations with. The vast vast majority of people can only visualize/imagine things they already know/were told. New information or fact based logical counters to what they "think" an attack not a chance to be correct. Most people allow feelings and history/experience to determine what is "true". I have zero ego about facts and truth. There is literally nothing more important to me than facts and the truth. Point out my error and present me with better more accurate/correct information I with thank you for correcting me. I hate being wrong/incorrect because I often have input and never want to misinform or mislead anyone unintentionally. Way to late to make this short. Generalizing what people you are not capable of being should do, is rather humorous. Perhaps I should tell world class athletes how to do what I never could? :)
Not everyone is ambitious, nor have they got to be
@@voose03 I agree it is nice to slack and take it easy but when you are ready to retire dont come crying about how you have no income and are miserable.
@@callmebigpapa oh for sure. It’s a trade-off, and one will have to live with the consequences. I personally wasn’t necessarily thinking of jobs that are piss-poor and easy. More about knowing when to stop and not make the next step up the ladder just because it’s there, but consider your well-being and preference. Dr. Peterson touched on that in the vid
I worked in social services for 30+ years, there are ways for people with low IQs to work and earn money. Its call sheltered workshops and, in some cases, working in the community with an aide/supervisor. Still a problem in my opinion as they are simple jobs and under paid, but not as big a problem as Dr. Peterson makes it out to be for low IQ individuals.
I think Jordan Peterson is the only person I know that says “bloody” in a North American accent so flagrantly. Lol. Amazing 👏🏽
You're damn bloody right he is
canada has more commonwealth style english
I’ve an Irish Catholic farmer as a neighbor in MN, and he uses bloody, by Jove, and several other English sounding colloquialisms, all in a very Minnesotan accent lol
13 Rules for Bloody Life
And it's no bloody wonder!
At work I'm the smartest person in the room. I picked an easy, not challenging profession because I wanted to goof off all day and get paid. Not everyone has career ambition.
What is your job/field?
@@Eric3Frog Healthcare. I work at a hospital. Obviously I'm not smarter than some of the doctors and stuff lol, but I do circles around the people in my department. When I don't have patients I play games or watch UA-cam. It's pretty awesome.
I have a relatively high IQ and literally no ambition to climb up the career ladder. I would like to take up professions like these.
@@17h127 why do you say you aren’t smarter than the doctors? They just have more training.
@@Eric3Frog I said some of them, not all. We have a few who are really smart and great doctors.. And of course a few who I wonder how they made it through school lol.
I was told back in middle school my IQ placed me with that at a level of genius, I have since been looking to aquire information as to where I may locate a legitimate IQ test to challenge myself and see where I hold on the scale of intelligence if anyone has any knowledge I would greatly appreciate it. I was expected to be in college by the time I would normally reach high school but then issues of rumors and myself being targeted in school rose to issues that prevented this
My IQ is unmeasured so I have no idea what it is, but I can say I’m learning every day. I learn from my mistakes and actively avoid them if at all possible. I think that and reading when I have time helps me see what’s important in life. So I guess I don’t care about an arbitrary number to show others what I already know. As far as the job goes it’s up to the employer and employe to discover if a job is right for you or not.
I disagree with iq and job titles. I know alot of higher up management pretty much everywhere I worked that lacked common sense and logical critical thinking skills . It's less about intelligence and more of an opportunity and life paths. Plenty of extremely smart people working simple jobs when they are capable of much much more.
I think he is talking about what work would be best/ what would make you most happy. Not necessarily what reality is
@@salesmanager6050 exactly.
@@salesmanager6050 exactly.
Critical thinking is a problem when you're listening to everyone in a room. I believe that, even if you're the most intelligent person in the world, you will lack concentration on your tasks if you're overwhelmed by a "toxic" job environment. Main reason why smart people go to the librarary. The silence is healthy.
He is right wing economist and will deny it or blame government officials. Because that's not how free market supposed to work ))
Every time I tie my shoes i consider a victory.
I just use slip-ons. Less chance for failure.
That's good
Makes sense that you're an eagle fan.
This needs to be taught somehow. I don’t know if learning that you “suck” for modern society is problematic then I’m not sure how.
One idea I have is there is a widely believed fallacy in the US: Since we all start in the first grade then it is only a question of how hard you try, your determination, that determines your fate. “I was dedicated and I tried harder so I made it.”
I graduated with a degree in finance and while the finance part I can deal with the number of meetings, small talk, and general extroversion I'm expected to have has completely exposed my weakness to social situations. Intelligence with poor social skills is an unfortunate handicap if you ever want to move up any corporate or public ladder.
I'm the same and now I'm out of the finance world. Just too back stabby for my taste. Disgusting vain people honestly.
@@briang4914 what area of finance did you work in?
@@Viper4ever05 financial planning. Edward Jones, Raymond James, and then later on for a smaller bank. You?
@@briang4914 I wanted to work for companies like that but life took me to the Nonprofit space and I hate it. Dealing with state and federal government is one of the most annoying experiences I've ever faced. But I feel like the corporate world won't be any better so I'm not sure where I want to go.
Except you can never judge someone by their job.
The smartest person I have ever met is still my kindergarten teacher. She was absolutely brilliant in everything but she still chose to work in something she was passionate about. That is still a very powerful message to me.
If you could choose between money and passion, what would you choose?
In the USA: Money
In the UE: Passion
Depends . . . But usually money
Passion ofc, but passion needs money so you gotta prioritize wealth first you know health > wealth > success
@@giovannipelissero1886 you mean EU, right?
Smart people can get both. If you have to choose, you're not at the top.
That was explained really well
In past times, a large proportion of the population lived and worked on farms. Agricultural work didn't require much more than a strong back and the willingness to work hard when out in the elements.
Now, not only do only a small percentage of people work in agriculture, agriculture itself has become very high tech.
I got tested at 94 IQ, just in between tradesman and janitor, I also have a severe mental illness. It just makes me feel bad. I am a young reclusive adult so I grew up with computers and I know a little bit about them, I can even write a little code, but could never make it in the field professionally. Life can be a real drag at times.
There is more then just IQ. If you have the will and patience you can become proficient in the field. 94 is not a low IQ or anything to feel ashamed of. You are normal and a lot of normal people make a great living.
I think there a plenty of jobs, with great co-workers that you can find that will make you happy. Outisde of work you can do other things that make you happy too, you'll find it mate
Try working for IT support for a medium company with good infrastructure. If youre good with computers and can understand the basics, its a perfect job
Have you thought about quality assurance or test automation? Writing automated tests takes a little code but it is easier than development work, and you'd be working with computers. Someone here mentioned IT as well. There are lots of options for working more with computers and less with people that don't involve writing software.
That's remarkably observant -- being good but not quite good enough at something.
Dang, all the people I served with in the Army must've gotten waivers then
Confirmed, was in the Australian Army Reserves (University Regiment) whilst studying. Ok a Regiment of smart people you would think ?? The Australian Army is the dumbest organisation in Australia- right up there with Nursing Home staff ( you could swap the workforce and not notice the difference).
I’m a highly intelligent person with adhd and I am struggling with the stereotypical concept of jobs. I don’t like that all of them require stress tolerance and consistency. So what I would have liked to be added in Jordan Petersons speech here is a rating less connected to other factors (e.g. stress tolerance)
Genius analysis oh love it 😍
"People who brag about their IQ are losers."
-Stephen Hawking
He was a handicap. He is the loser.
@@bloomerboi21 nice logic. I guess being in a wheelchair makes nullifies the things he has done and the fact that he was one of the smartest people in the world
People who think that just because I tell them I'm a genius I'm bragging are salty
@@eduardcruceru9004 what has he done?
Well,Stephen Hawking was good in physics,but not in psychology!
“Man seeks his own level of incompetency!” The Peter Principle
Not seeks, but hears to.
Man rises to his own level of incompetency.
Meaning your competence keep getting you promoted into higher responsibility until you get promoted beyond your competence.
Ergo making you incompetent.
@@MesaperProductions absolutely! The Peter Prescription, the follow-up book basically said it will almost always be put in a situation in which you lack competence and there is nothing you can do about it. I’ve found it to be true in my situation and see it in others! Adapt or fail is the only outcome except finding another position till it happens again.
During the Vietnam War, Robert McNamara began a program called Project 100,000. The program brought over 300,000 men to Vietnam who failed to meet minimum criteria for military service, both physically and mentally.
I am very visual in terms of grasping concepts quickly and having these well-structured animations underlying JBP's talk is a godsend. Thanks to whoever did this.
This video is so awesome! Thank you thank you thank you for posting it - it's so necessary for us to face - not easy but we must face it.