URA Zelda Boss Rush? The Lost Maps Explored!

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2022
  • We explore lost Zelda: Ocarina of Time maps! These were used by the Nintendo developers when creating Ura Zelda, the unreleased 64DD expansion for Ocarina of Time.
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  • @DanielSantosAnalysis
    @DanielSantosAnalysis Рік тому +97

    You're a real one for putting in your own money to make this happen.

    • @raymondjack
      @raymondjack Рік тому +10

      A true historian.

    • @xxsusmasterxx5491
      @xxsusmasterxx5491 Рік тому +16

      He is truly, Hard 4 Games.

    • @sinnerog977
      @sinnerog977 Рік тому +9

      If only we could crowdfund another Zelda game in this engine without getting attacked by Nintendo 🙄

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Рік тому +1

      @@sinnerog977 Last time I heard modding support for the PC port hasn’t been entirely ironed out yet. Once it is it will probably result in a flurry of activity.

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 Рік тому

      I'd expect nothing less from Hard4Games.

  • @Borti_Ovi
    @Borti_Ovi Рік тому +43

    Back to the ol’ Ura Zelda again! We should never forget about that magnificent Gigaleak!

    • @WilfredCthulu
      @WilfredCthulu Рік тому +10

      That summer was one of the best times ever for me lol.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Рік тому +3

      specially when the gigaleak still hasn’t been completely documented

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 Рік тому

      @@protocetid I pray that there's still far more to find.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Рік тому +2

      @@SonicBoone56 Wouldn't say there's loads we haven’t seen, a few things are left that were shared on proto research Discords and Twitter but haven't been put on TCRF. And the recent uncovering of extra A Link to the Past prototype data inside Super Donkey hints at some remaining nuggets.
      edit: Forgot to include the more complete proto Master Quest dungeons, AFAIK it flew under many fans’ radars. ua-cam.com/video/Pv6tQ2nAApM/v-deo.html

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas 11 місяців тому +1

      It hurts that Earthbound 64 wasn't in there...

  • @CaptBurgerson
    @CaptBurgerson Рік тому +10

    Walking into the spirit temple foyer and not immediately being bodied by a pair of clay pots is not the thing I expected to find most disorienting about this, and yet here we are.

  • @DivisibleByWaffle
    @DivisibleByWaffle Рік тому +34

    Tony! I am always happy to see you talking about early/unused Zelda 64 and Ura Zelda content. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion on this topic. Great video as always!

    • @babyminya539
      @babyminya539 Рік тому

      maybe some day Zelda wind wakes scores code Wii get here someday

  • @TheDanaAddams
    @TheDanaAddams Рік тому +12

    Absolute LEGEND for commissioning this; even the less glamorous discoveries are worth exploring to the fullest!
    The idea of replaying an abridged version of each dungeon to reclaim your items and upgrades one by one, taking on every boss and miniboss along the way is a VERY interesting one - even if that's not what this is, it's a fantastic idea for the basis of a mod!
    It's also an interesting idea that could be explored in a Ganon's Castle context; everything is stripped away from you, and you have to earn them back through abridged versions of each dungeon before you can progress to the final showdown. Could have been really cool to see something like that play out in this game or another!

  • @only1gameguru
    @only1gameguru Рік тому +3

    This makes me want a beer. Thanks Tony bringing back the memories

  • @GeomancerHT
    @GeomancerHT Рік тому +8

    You need a sister channel called Wet4Games!

  • @jeroenboth167
    @jeroenboth167 Рік тому +9

    I have been in love with anything 64DD related so every video with the 64DD is almost always an win for me haha

  • @EeekItsSnek
    @EeekItsSnek Рік тому +4

    I love how you are super detail oriented even on chest animations but the second Navi shows up, you shut that shit down quick 😅

  • @zummone
    @zummone Рік тому +13

    Imagine if this was to test the custom dungeon thing that Ura Zelda was rumored to have.

  • @protocetid
    @protocetid Рік тому +7

    There’s more than these test maps, according to one modder there’s more complete Master Quest layouts in the Gigaleak. Despite there being nothing about them on TCRF, the discussion I saw about them in the TCRF Discord does point to them being authentic. Zeth made a mod so we can play them, yes it’s the same Zeth who was making the Ura Zelda fanfic mod. Make no mistake this time he sought to faithfully present what Nintendo scrapped. ua-cam.com/video/Pv6tQ2nAApM/v-deo.html

    • @weinerschnitzel7
      @weinerschnitzel7 Рік тому +2

      Also check out the disk version! Zoinkity has a clip of the load times on real hardware!
      ua-cam.com/video/2gjoFVkiXF0/v-deo.html

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt Рік тому +1

      "Anything relating to the DD test dungeon files that everyone keeps calling boss rush modes.(That's why some of them are labled ddtes{DD test}) OoT's DD abilities are very limited, it could not support having a boss rush mode without it getting very hacky and none of the files relating to building the expansion even points to these files, including Z2_ReDead and Z2_DD_IKE. Z2 has been used in all Majora's Mask maps and most likely is beta related to Zelda Gaidan." - zeth

  • @anandchundi6805
    @anandchundi6805 Рік тому +1

    This is why i subbed, the passion you and your friends have for vintage games is inspiring and sharing it with the world is really selfless

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 День тому

    Tony you are such a adorable and lovable internet personality. Your whole crew rocks too

  • @dissorophois-2263
    @dissorophois-2263 Рік тому +3

    I Love your videos. This is content that nobody except you can deliver. Thank you Tony.

  • @stephenfiler3204
    @stephenfiler3204 Рік тому

    Nice video my man. Always great to see new stuff being found.

  • @TeraunceFoaloke
    @TeraunceFoaloke Рік тому +21

    Nice video but Dead Hand is kinda the Bottom of the Well's boss. It's strange there's no Ice Cavern in there as it also technically has a boss.

    • @nickonerd
      @nickonerd Рік тому +2

      no it doesn't

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral Рік тому +5

      @@nickonerd Sure it does... it just dies in a single jump slash to its back.

  • @Sanker1
    @Sanker1 Рік тому

    I love these kind of videos, thank you for making this content accesible for everyone!

  • @owlnonymous
    @owlnonymous Рік тому +4

    The Water Temple variant is soo cool.

  • @quinnsinclair7028
    @quinnsinclair7028 Рік тому +2

    "There's no boss in the bottom of the well."
    *fights Dead Hand*
    Yup, just no boss as far as I can tell.

  • @eduardopazhurtado3882
    @eduardopazhurtado3882 Рік тому +4

    Hey, the Wii U was very modern hahahahaha. Love your content bro, specially all Zelda and N64DD related stuff, like this video!

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY Рік тому +2

    Oh nice a new ura Zelda video just in time for breakfast thanks Tony watching right away

  • @KaguyaH
    @KaguyaH Рік тому +13

    What happened with Zel? Went to look and see if he'd released this himself and he's privated all of his videos and deleted his twitter.

    • @Bannanawaffles2
      @Bannanawaffles2 Рік тому +12

      He got called out for selling a build of the Third Quest mod he used to be a developer on for $1k to someone who had to take out credit to afford it (read: someone who was in no state to spend that kinda money). Pretty quickly after that he deactivated, because he was too shitty to own up to anything so he just ran from backlash. Dude already made a hell of a name for himself in the past as a notoriously shitty person, so it was no surprise.

    • @KaguyaH
      @KaguyaH Рік тому +1

      @@Bannanawaffles2 Shit. Thanks for the info at least.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid Рік тому +1

      @@Bannanawaffles2 Oof is this true? He did a lot for the community.

    • @Echidneys
      @Echidneys Рік тому +3

      @@Bannanawaffles2 IDK what other shitty things this dude has done but the person who can't afford to spend $1000 on video game mods probably shouldn't be spending $1000 on video game mods? Not sure how that's anyone else's fault but their own.

  • @GameOverJesse
    @GameOverJesse Рік тому

    Your doing the best work

  • @Glitchtophertm
    @Glitchtophertm Рік тому +5

    Honestly, I think it’d be interesting for these to be the rooms you go into when you during Gannon's castle. Just a thought.

  • @bluetheta
    @bluetheta Рік тому +1

    It actually a proto "hero" mode where all the dungeon layout would be completely different (reason for map/compass) and not just adding obstacles (master quest). The hooks are what the game uses when entering a loading zone. It my understanding that the DD and the online BBS would alter the game on the fly... I think that how code injection was SUPPOSED to work, making the game dynamic - see any TAS Triforce any % run.

  • @water_king1
    @water_king1 Рік тому +4

    These are some really cool findings! Hopefully you guys can work with the devs for Ship of Harkinian so they can fully restore these on the OOT PC Port! 👍

    • @macuser7048
      @macuser7048 Рік тому +1

      It'd be cool to have this turn into a rom hack for a boss rush.

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack Рік тому +1

    Did the Gigaleak contain any of the Zelda 64 textures before compression? It would be interesting to see what the wall/background textures looked like before they were made so blurry.

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. Рік тому

    Good gameplay. I enjoyed watching this

    • @Mote.
      @Mote. Рік тому

      Ocarina of time and all Zelda games are so great. I love the sound design, music, artsyle, mechanics

  • @VinniePaz
    @VinniePaz Рік тому

    Great video

  • @alec_almartson
    @alec_almartson Рік тому

    This leak is Great News... thank you for this cool video 👏🏻😁
    Gotta research more about it🤔

  • @SonicJrandSarah
    @SonicJrandSarah Рік тому

    I find these to all be interesting. A bit of the same stuff as we are familiar with, but interesting never the less.

  • @cringemaxxing28
    @cringemaxxing28 Рік тому

    Love you guys

  • @czr5014
    @czr5014 Рік тому +1

    Yooo, have you considered using a game genie such that you have 99 keys and 99 master/boss keys on boot. That way you could open up any door

  • @narwhalgamingvariety
    @narwhalgamingvariety Рік тому

    This channel is on a constant upward trajectory. Stay hard my friends.

  • @superbullet516
    @superbullet516 Рік тому

    Less gooo NEW H4G

  • @friendlyninja5048
    @friendlyninja5048 Рік тому

    UA-cam knows. It recommended me the video about the promotional OoT VHS in Portuguese from two years ago last night.

  • @ElectricJazzcat
    @ElectricJazzcat Рік тому

    I like the idea

  • @Knightmessenger
    @Knightmessenger Рік тому +1

    Would this have originally had the new gerudo symbol and altered fire temple music?
    These maps were made before the game was released, correct?

  • @clouds-rb9xt
    @clouds-rb9xt Рік тому +1

    What about ZethN64's semi-recent rom hack? Not the old one, but his one from like last year, which restored Master Quest to it's Ura Form (ie; harder). He doesn't include any of the boss rush though.

    • @clouds-rb9xt
      @clouds-rb9xt Рік тому +1

      According to ZethN64 "Anything relating to the DD test dungeon files that everyone keeps calling boss rush modes.(That's why some of them are labled ddtes{DD test}) OoT's DD abilities are very limited, it could not support having a boss rush mode without it getting very hacky and none of the files relating to building the expansion even points to these files, including Z2_ReDead and Z2_DD_IKE. Z2 has been used in all Majora's Mask maps and most likely is beta related to Zelda Gaidan."

  • @aandyfrank
    @aandyfrank Рік тому +2

    were the treasure chest contents improvised or is that actually what the data said they contained? it seems like a mini-boss to get the item followed by the boss where you use the item is a good idea and then they give you a compass or something instead

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Рік тому +5

      That's actually what they contained

    • @babyminya539
      @babyminya539 Рік тому

      will wind waker gets score code

  • @ElGordo2497
    @ElGordo2497 Рік тому

    Dude, what are the odds that I look up Ura Zelda and this video is uploaded just an hour ago? Awesome.

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @Auxodium
    @Auxodium Рік тому

    Yet another good video. I wish the DD became what it was supposed to.

    • @GUNUFofficial
      @GUNUFofficial Рік тому

      Releasing something like that would have been acceptable if the ps1 and sega saturn didn't already have a built in disc drive

  • @l3rvn0
    @l3rvn0 Рік тому

    Hey, Wii U was literally the most powerfull console at the time, it had 4x more RAM that the PS3 for one

  • @AspieGamer1986
    @AspieGamer1986 Рік тому

    I'm waiting for the Secret of Mana CD beta to pop up online.

  • @JimiJamma
    @JimiJamma Рік тому +2

    Hard4Games, I have a grey Sony PlayStation DTL-H1001 debugging tool and can’t seem to find out what it’s value is. Would you or can you help me out, thank you?

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Рік тому +1

      Hi! Sorry I'm awful at valuation. Probably not the right person to ask, unfortunately. 😶

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma Рік тому

      @@hard4games do you know anything about this console?

  • @vondahl972
    @vondahl972 Рік тому

    N64 zelda with no background music hits different

  • @crimester
    @crimester Рік тому

    cool

  • @bat_mobile7545
    @bat_mobile7545 Рік тому +1

    If only Mother 3 exist in the Gigaleak

  • @babyminya539
    @babyminya539 Рік тому

    maybe Wii get scores code for wind waker

  • @yeoshazeus3944
    @yeoshazeus3944 Рік тому +1

    im confused arent these just the normal OoT maps?

  • @michaelgarcia5493
    @michaelgarcia5493 Рік тому

    Do they still play on actule Console ?

  • @Rubbe87
    @Rubbe87 Рік тому +4

    Could have used cheats to progress though.

  • @Octolicia
    @Octolicia Рік тому

    16:07 : Hmmm look tasty...~ Don't mind me if I just turn around... OWWW!!! What was that for? You green freak! Ow! Allright that's it! TAKE THAT!

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo Рік тому

    mimic door?

  • @asra-5180
    @asra-5180 Рік тому +7

    Oh boy. Zel. What a bad apple he turned out to be.

    • @Keanine
      @Keanine Рік тому +1

      He did?

    • @asra-5180
      @asra-5180 Рік тому +6

      @@Keanine you must've missed the events in the Hylian Modding discord. He took 1000$ from a 3rd quest fan for old assets.his yt and twitter are both dead now. And his discord profile now has no icon and a weird name. Needless to say, he won't be doing any mods anymore.

    • @Keanine
      @Keanine Рік тому +2

      @@asra-5180 Yeah I'm not active on there. Damn that's a shame, they had a real knack for this stuff too

    • @Wockes
      @Wockes Рік тому +3

      @@asra-5180 He refunded the money though

    • @asra-5180
      @asra-5180 Рік тому +2

      @@Wockes doesn't change the fact he sold assets from a hack HE DID NOT MAKE ALONE.

  • @babyminya539
    @babyminya539 Рік тому

    maybe wii get zelda wind waker for beta asset

  • @Blockie
    @Blockie Рік тому +1

    :o

  • @brandonrogers5207
    @brandonrogers5207 Рік тому

    My favorite is when you guys followed my page right after calling the scam years ago. The creator literally bought a car with the donation money and disappeared.

  • @Archangel96
    @Archangel96 Рік тому +1

    better save this b4 nintendo takes the video down

  • @geronimostilton6116
    @geronimostilton6116 Рік тому +6

    Ah so Zel took money from you too, giving copyrighted assets, interesting

  • @drivforc7867
    @drivforc7867 Рік тому

    how weird would be to see incomplete beta maps in vr

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 Рік тому +8

    It really is a myth to say the Wii U wasn’t modern when it launched.
    The PS4 and XBOX One didn’t exist in 2012. The graphics were better than its contemporaries, namely, the XBOX 360 and PlayStation 3, while the CPU was the same PowerPC architecture that they all used. Though it didn’t have all the cores and such of the PS3 it was easily capable of better graphics and performance in just about any multi platform game.
    It was a lot closer to Switch performance than people who rejected Wii U and accepted Switch are willing to admit… since it reveals that they were manipulated by public sentiment.

    • @Rubbe87
      @Rubbe87 Рік тому

      Switch don't even have ps3 grafics.

    • @Finnishmanni
      @Finnishmanni Рік тому

      Wii u is literally 95% as powerful as the switch. Switch itself isnt modern either then.

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 Рік тому +3

      @@Rubbe87 Not true at all. It had a more modern GPU than the PS3, and it shows. The PS3 was essentially an nVidia G70 (GeForce 7800 GTX class) while the Wii U was essentially an enhanced AMD RV790 XT (AMD Radeon HD 4890 class). The Wii U’s GPU technology was four years newer than the PS3 with the XBOX 360 being even older. That was a HUGE technological difference for the mid 2000s. Four years was literally the difference between the original XBOX and the XBOX 360.
      Yes, that level of performance was still closer to XBOX 360 and PlayStation 3, but XBOX One and PlayStation 4 didn’t exist yet. The Wii U still had better graphics tech than either of its contemporaries in 2012. The reason some multiplatform titles suffered is because of sloppy ports bottlenecked by CPU performance. When developed as a Wii U title in the first place, performance was much better. Heck, the Wii U port of Breath of the Wild even outperformed Switch at launch since it spent the majority of its development being optimized for Wii U (patches eventually improved Switch performance).

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 Рік тому

      @@Finnishmanni Are you comparing it to mobile hardware or desktop hardware? …because everything else was based on desktop hardware while the Tegra X1 in the Switch is mobile hardware. As far as mobile hardware goes it was relatively modern when Switch launched in early 2017 since it was based on 2015/2016 mobile hardware and it’s contemporaries were based on PC hardware that was already years old when they launched in 2013. That said, generations leapfrog in performance almost yearly in the mobile space putting it pretty far behind the latest iPad or whatever for the time... but it’s not like Sony or Microsoft were using Apple silicon.

    • @FakYuhGoogel
      @FakYuhGoogel Рік тому +1

      Xbox 360 and PS3 released in 2005/2006, the Wii U released in 2012. PS4/Xbox One came out in 2013. People were yearning for new hardware in the early 2010s since that generation dragged out for too long and you're telling me that a console in 2012 with the (if optimized) performance of a PS3 "Pro" with ports and underwhelming Nintendo games isn't outdated?
      "Wii U is closer to Switch performance than people like to admit" That's not a compliment. Switch is essentially a portable handheld. Its performance for a home console is pathetic, even at release. It's soon 2023, Nintendo fans that want a home console option still have to play with performance that is worse than the consoles that released in 2013. I don't even blame Nintendo, the Switch is still selling strong but saying that Nintendo hasn't been riding the "outdated hardware"-train ever since the Wii is just flat out wrong.

  • @eviliislag
    @eviliislag Місяць тому

    yum 5445 5

  • @ZetsubouFallen
    @ZetsubouFallen Рік тому +2

    Bottom of the well boss is actually the dead hand, that gives you the lens of thuth...
    But well you clearly haven't played OOT so we can't say nothing.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Рік тому +2

      ... does that really count as a boss?

    • @ZetsubouFallen
      @ZetsubouFallen Рік тому +1

      @@hard4games It's a sub boss, so yeah.

  • @Uniqorn
    @Uniqorn Рік тому +1

    What even is a boss rush?

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  Рік тому +5

      Basically where you get to replay the bosses you've already fought, one after the other.

    • @Rihcterwilker
      @Rihcterwilker Рік тому +4

      A miserable little pile of bosses.

  • @babbygremlin
    @babbygremlin Рік тому

    saw this then noticed in my subs H4G was also on DYKG, genuinely cool stuff

  • @ArcRay20
    @ArcRay20 Рік тому

    still always weird to hear that you can commission some romhackers like .zel