The Fall Guy: Why the Spin-Off Failed
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
- Before Ryan Gosling's movie, there was TV's THE FALL GUY, an '80s action show that had everything -- except a spin-off. Find out about the planned spin-off the show, why it failed and how it was the rarest kind of Backdoor Pilot, on this installment of BEHIND THE BACKDOOR PILOT.
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One of my favorites stunt films , AHHHHH YOU MENTIONED IT! STUNT ROCK!
Sorcery was the band from that film which I got a little obssessed with!
Excellent episode as always, Atomic Abe!
Dyed eyebrows freak me out 😂
I completely forgot there was a smoky in the bandit part 3, Stoker Ace was a better film anyhow 🤣
We are big fans of Stunt Rock!
And thanks for watching!
@@atomicabe I forgot about smokey and the bandit part three and the t v movies. Stoker Ace is one of my favorite Burt films.
My family's dog name was Smokey !
Cheers !
I loved The Fall Guy haven't watched it years
@@atomicabe I remember the Fall Guy TV Series fans loved the show with it staring the 6 Million Dollar Man himself Lee Major and 80's beauty Heather Thomas. it was just as beloved as other 80's shows.
Ummm......The Fall Guy was absolutely beloved. How can you say it wasn't and then go on and talk about it having it's own lunch boxes, board and video games etc.
Yep, and FX used daily repeats in their early days 11am for years was the fall guy
6:15 is what the title is referring to.
@@MrRAGE-md5rj I wasn't asking or talking about the title. Listen to what he says in the video
That song brings me back to my childhood every time I hear it.
@@butter7734 I watched the new movie last night. They play a version of that song during the end credits
The Fall Guy had one of the best TV themes ever.
That’s all I remember about the show.
@@robshimer the theme song and his truck are what stand out in my mind all these years later. This was a show I saw a lot on those Saturday afternoons where some siding company had bought a block of time and ran their commercials with episodes of stuff like The Fall Guy and Simon and Simon and the like.
original is not in movie - no one would know who they are talking about anyways
I looked up the theme song on youtube which led me to a load of full episodes.
Lee went to my high school (Middlesboro, KY) and was best buddies with my second cousin and my mother-in-law knew him fairly well. Not once have I ever read a discouraging word about the man; he's a class act and at 85 years old this year, he's still kicking. Great video!
As a child of the 80s. I wanted to be colt seavers when I grew up
I wanted that truck!! Lol
"Scarecrow and Mrs. King" huh? Hang on, gotta make a few calls...
Comparing “The Fall Guy” to “Scarecrow and Mrs King” shows that Abe DEFINITELY wasn’t alive in the 80’s. . .
Dude, I would love a movie version of "Scarecrow and Mrs King". That show was awesome and one of my childhood favorites. I, actually, re-watched the entire series, a few months ago. Still loved it, as an adult.
It's a truly charming show that gave an ex (Charlie's) Angel a second career as an action star. Although, Kate Jackson was doing well after Charlie's Angels with TV 🎬 movies.
@@ReviewRoomieAnd a post-Tron Bruce Boxleitner.
Are we talking about the same show??? I mean he was great as Tron and Mrs. King would’ve made a great Lois Lane alongside Christopher Reeve’s Superman had they not have found Margot Kidder. Yet the Show Scarecrow & Mrs. King was in the same league as Hart to Hart. Both boring shows in my opinion.
You knew you were up way too late when a rerun of the Fall Guy was on. You could also tell that was the 80s because back then television theme songs were two minutes long. Finally, bikini-clad Heather Thomas walking through the swinging doors _still_ gets me. 🥵
It' was on Wednesday nights at 7pm, central time.
@@theessentials450 I never saw it in its original airing. I have lived in Milwaukee all 42 (almost 43) years of my life and reruns aired here at 3 AM.
My great uncle has the poster of Heather Thomas in her blue bikini coming through the batwing bar doors, and he’s 73 years old. LOL, I guess that poster will live on forever.
In later seasons of Knight Rider every episode needed to have *SUPER PURSUIT MODE*
Not gonna lie. I'd totally watch a feature film version of Scarecrow and Mrs. King.
Since we made this video I've had the SCARECROW & MRS. KING theme in my head. Great theme song.
That tease about Knight Rider at the end…pure perfection!
Paul Williams wrote two of my favorite songs: ‘Rainy Days and Mondays’ and ‘Just an Old-Fashioned Love Song’. His performance and soundtrack to ‘Phantom of the Paradise’ is what elevates that film to my favorite 70s DePalma film. But how could you forget his appearance on ‘The Odd Couple’ as Himself when Edna Unger loves him so much she runs away to be with him, and he sings a song written by Felix to convince her to go back home and grow up. Actually, that song isn’t bad either.
There was soooo much Paul Williams we could've delved into. In the interest of time (ha!) we had to get on with it. But you're right, an Odd Couple clip would've been a good fit here.
@@atomicabe A Remington Steele reboot can't be too far away LOL!🤔🤠🙋👍
@@atomicabePaul also recently collaborated with the likes of Portugal, the Man and Daft Punk
I can’t believe you called Paul Williams a b list star! The songs that man has written will outlive all of us!
It was Bugsy Malone that got me into the fabulous sound & writing of Paul Williams. As for his full career....'We've only just begun' !!!
The Fall Guy did produce a spin-of series, starring Lou Ferrigno (post Incredible Hulk) called Trauma Center.
Oh wow. Was that a spin-off or a cross-over?
It was a spin-off, back door pilot. Howie (Douglas Barr) was critically injured in a stunt car accident.
Uh-oh, Atomic Abe has some 'splaining to do!
I was gonna comment about this spin off
I thought this video was gonna be about Trauma Centre.
When I flew to Paris in 1998, I arrived early in the morning and then fell asleep immediately upon entering my hotel room. I woke up with the TV on, and it was The Fall Guy dubbed in French. Love that show, the theme song, Lee Majors, and even the title itself. Obviously I love Glen A. Larson and all of his other projects as well. A true genius of television.
I know atomic Abe specializes in backdoor pilots of older shows. With netflix premiering The Deadboy detectives. They should do the Doom patrol episode called deadboy detective agency. It was an attempt at a spin off. Warner bros passed and sold it to Netflix.
That's interesting! We will look into it.
Paul Williams is also an Academy Award songwriter. His winning song was Evergreen from A Star Is Born.
Paul Williams is best known to me as the composer/singer for the songs in Bugsy Malone
Yes, we mentioned BUGSY MALONE in another episode, where we covered the failed spin-off of WEBSTER and ended up talking about the episode where kids played gangsters. I picked up the soundtrack album of BUGSY at a garage sale last year. Great songs.
I went to see the Fall Guy today, it's was fun. It starts out rather slow but picks up , adds twists, the ends with a bang. I liked it!
Lee Majors main stuntman in The Fall Guy was Mickey Gilbert who was a high school friend of Robert Redford's who ended up being his long-time stunt double starting with Butch Cassidy all the way to 2018's 'The Old Man & the Gun''. Mickey passed away at 87 in February of this year. Paul Williams is an accomplished musician who has written a number of classic movie themes including my favorite song, Flying Dreams from The Secret of NIMH.
I hope you talk about the W.A.L.T.E.R. failed pilot.
Top Cat was extremely popular on Latin America, and I think that was the audience they went for. That also explain the Woody Woodpecker movie (who was also really popular on Brazil).
Has there been a movie version of CONDORITO?
@@atomicabe Yeah there was!!! a 3D movie on 2017, terrible reviews.
At first I couldn't believe you overlooked that Lee Majors had three hit TV shows with Buck Rogers... but Google tells me that Gil Gerard was Buck Rogers.
Colt Seavers is an all time great name.
He was in the final season of tour of duty, as a vet that kept rejoining the military to serve on the front line.
A Top Cat movie totally made sense considerig it was made targeting the Latín American audience where "Don Gato y su Pandilla" Is a beloved classic. Great video btw!
Thanks so much. I haven't seen the TOP CAT movie. I know a guy who worked on the sequel, so I should see that.
loved fall guy!! thank you for hippin' me onto those 3 stunt man flicks!!
My pleasure. I hope you like them. STUNT ROCK is so much fun.
The only reason I watched The Fall Guy because of Heather Thomas and Markie Post.
Yummmy Markie Post....so had the hots for her from Night Court also during my teen years!
Heather Thomas is scorchingly hot
Just occurred to me when watching your intro that due to its star, The Fall Guy is like a comedy version of Drive.
Absolutely! I'm sure it'll be wildly different, but Ryan Gosling brings that baggage to the role (in a good way 👍 )
You should get in contact with the guys that run the Knight Rider Historians channel for your next video. They have tons of records from the production of the show, not to mention a couple of screen used KITTs, and the FLAG semi & trailer.
The Top Cat movie exists because Top Cat is really popular in Latin America. Similarly, the Woody Woodpecker movie exists because Woody is really popular in Brazil.
Another notable role for Paul Williams is The Penguin in Batman: The Animated Series.
I mainly know Pat McCormick from the "helicopter story" which was referenced numerous times by Gilbert Gottfried on his podcast.
Great suggestion! Thanks for watching
I think F. Scott Fitzgerald was a genius, but that "there are no second acts in American life" must be the most erroneous (a nicer way to say "dumbest") thing he ever said. If only he could have lived to have seen The Fall Guy! He would have seen Lee Majors prove him wrong!
If only he could have lived to write on THE FALL GUY.
Paul Williams on Smokey and the Bandit...shout out to Paul for vocals on the last Daft Punk LP
There is so much 70s in one video
can you dig it?
It’s been years since I’ve heard someone name drop Phantom of the Paradise.
You mentioned STUNTS! (With Robert Forester) Yay! Subscribed!
The Fall Guy show somehow worked. It worked as an "every man" show, in a way. I still enjoy it.
STUNTS is so much fun. I love that the trailer for the film features the "thumbs up" -- and that's also in the Fall Guy movie trailer. Yeah, Colt is a great every man. Lee Majors makes it work.
An excellently made video. That was quite the fun ride on the backdoor pilot train. I even had to pause the video and admire Delta Burke for a while. I recently rediscovered her 80s comedy Filthy Rich also starring her Designing Women costar Dixie Carter. My goodness, those two were absolutely gorgeous.
Oh, I don't know FILTHY RICH, will have to look for it. Thank you.
Whenever I see Paul Williams I always mistakenly think it's William Sanderson.
ha! I can see that.
Paul Williams is a national treasure.
Yes, he really is. I saw him speak on two occasions and there was so much love and admiration all around him. Once was for an Emmet Otter CD release and once was for a book appearance with Tracey Jackson. But each Q&A was all over the place, it was really cool.
"Glen Larceny" sounds like a Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? villain. 😂🤣
This is a great video; It Something to admire.
LOL.
I don't know if you were alive when the fall guy way on TV. But that was a major show. Everyone loved it and talked about it at school
I loved the Fall Guy TV Show growing up in the 80s. went to see the new movie today and walked out 20 minutes into it.
The Fall Guy is one of the greatest Tv series ever especially overseas
Scarecrow and Mrs King cinematic universe just announced by Disney!
ha! I hope they make it cross-over with Tron.
I got introduced to Paul Williams through his guest star role in Dexter's Labatory.
The Fall Guy was huge, Heather Thomas made a couple million dollars a year off of cheese cake wall posters of which every teenage boy in the 80's had at least 3 of. It never made it into reruns because Jody (heather) spent most episodes running around in bikinis that would not have been aloud on Baywatch.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Actually, I would love a movie version of Scarecrow and Mrs. King. 😁
That would’ve been a kickass show
I would've watched.
19:03 Fantastic Comic book Guy impression👏😆 Thanks for your excellent analysis!
There was another episode that was a pilot or i thought so it wasManhunter from season 3 where Colt was chasing someone and crisses paths with priscilla presley and stewart granger who are also after the samr guy.
Only the first 2 series released on dvd. I want the rest released !!!!
How did you find the movie? I feel like should have a video on its own. Where would one even look for an obscure TV movie from the early 80's today in 2024?
Hmm, I am wondering what your thoughts on these movie adaptations of 70s/80s shows. Any that you thought were actually good?
The first 21 Jump Street movie is fun. So is the first Brady Bunch film.
The reason why The Fall Guy worked as a TV show but failed as a movie can be summed up in six words: Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors
Paul Williams is my favorite song writer! Always
Such great songs. I saw him at the Museum of the Moving Image a few years back for the release of the EMMET OTTER soundtrack on CD. The crowd adored him and his Q&A was really wonderful.
I saw the movie and I loved it! It reminded me of the TV show. I looked It’s up on UA-cam and I’m really enjoying it! It still works!
Paul Williams also voiced a character based on himself for "Dexter's Laboratory", among other interesting appearances
Such an amazing career. And a remarkable life. The document PAUL WILLIAMS: STILL ALIVE is a favorite.
Well our local channel H&I started running the Fall Guy. So many other actors from the older movies just fun. Never saw the new movie.
You missed a joke. When he says to Farrah fawcett "anything for my leading lady..." That was funny because he was married to Farrah fawcett in real life.
What would the audience be for this show??? Also don’t forget Donald P. Bellisario on your Mt. Rushmore
Jeez Kevin, now I’m picturing a Scarecrow and Mrs. King movie made by Lord and Miller.
Would watch!!
Where can i watch Rooster 1982 the tv made movie????
That’s Incredible the Movie! Strip mining the past, exactly! I’m not sure but if I where in charge I’d ask my writers, “ why am I paying you when I could just put 70-80’s shows and movies in an AI program and get as good or better a script for a 1/4 of the money in half the time?”.
Fall Guy also used the movie "The Hunter" (1980) to get it's bounty hunter tie-in.
Oh, that was a blind spot for me. Thank you! Have you seen "The Hunter"? Is it worth seeking out? I wasn't familiar with it.
@@atomicabe Very good! Steve McQueen's last movie. Loosely based on a real guy, Ralph Edgar "Papa" Thorson Jr. I always felt the timing of this movie tied in to "The Fall Guy". Several good stunts in it too!
the movie was good for a romcom. they added all the movie tropes like checkoffs gun in act 1 and used in Act 3 with blanks.
I loved the Fall Guy. But Howie was not Colts nephew, he was Colts cousin
Fall guy was amazing. I loved the movie.
Good to hear! I'm seeing the movie on Tuesday.
I thought the steak on the plate thing was the joke. Like he cooked it so bad it got stuck to the plate, not that it was a tv mistake.
Oh, maybe it was. I shouldn't rule that out.
I'm surprised Paul Williams didn't play Yoda in the second Star Wars movie to keep the Muppet connection going. 😅😅
OMG. If they were still making 70s Variety Shows in the 80s, we might have gotten to see Paul Williams as Yoda.
Paul Williams was everywhere. He sang "Flying Dreams" on the Secret of Nimh soundtrack for Jerry Goldsmith. A favorite.
Oh, and I was one of those watching the Facts of Life that night!
@atomicabe I don’t know if you’ll cover this one day, but I see METV will show the Danny Thomas Show episode that was a back door pilot for the Andy Griffith Show. They seem to be making a big deal about it.
Yes, I've seen some of that episode. Might be a video worth doing as it's an early example of a backdoor pilot. Also fascinating that Andy Griffith planned to be the comic character on the show but once the series was announced, Andy got a phone call from Don Knotts. Don said "You're gonna need a deputy." So they added Barney Fife to the show and they gave him all the funny bits.
So that who it was!
I kew there must have been a reference I was missing context to, in the end cutscene.
Oh, does Lee Majors show up in the movie? I'm seeing it tomorrow.
@@atomicabe There's a cut scene with him,after a lot of clip with thee stunts filming.
Dont forget he was in owen marshall .attorney at law.1971,72
I loved The Fall Guy show! Great tv theme song. Lee Majors and of course Heather Thomas💌
Top Cat is HUGE in Mexico, pretty sure all its box office came from here lol
I was surprised when I saw that there was going to be a feature film based on The Fall Guy, but I guess the show was more popular than I remember.
It's such an odd choice. Reminds me of when Steve Martin starred in SGT. BILKO, but they didn't really lean into "hey look it's a movie of the old tv show!"
I thought you were going to talk about the spin-off where Lou Ferrigno played a paramedic.
Did that have a backdoor pilot that was born out of THE FALL GUY? I was under the impression it was a cross-over episode. (This is like the old HAPPY DAYS / OUT OF THE BLUE debate. Or THE BRADY KIDS / MISSION: MAGIC.)
FYI, Top Cat is MASSIVE in Latin America. So while it might have been a blip domestically, in that market it was probably a blockbuster.
I stand very corrected. Thank you. Had this been a video about Top Cat, I would've done the research.
@@atomicabe I'm not trying to be an "um actually" person. It's one of those things that I find fascinating, like why Brazil LOVES Woody Woodpecker.
The Facts of life beat out the Rooster pilot? Damn! But in all fairness the classic Family Ties came right after.
I loved the Fall Guy growing up.
There are things that are perfect in their original iteration and should not be remade or messed with; a lesson Hollywood never seems to learn.
When are they making “Manimal” the movie ??? 👀
This isn't bad... I went and found an old episode of this TV show they speak of. It's pretty good; why is it not on Hulu? -unfortunate. The way the narrator describes the plot of the Fall Guy-he says it almost with a sarcastic tone.
He steps in where the actor would normally be, to take the beating to make art. The stuntman should be celebrated figures as much as the actors. And I never thought about it before but, they almost only get honorable mentions.
When you asked the question of who brought together Pat and Paul, I knew right away it was Burt Reynolds! It was in "Smokey and the Bandit" where they were teamed up as Big and Little Enos Burdette.
This video was made for you.
@@atomicabe Awwwwwwwww! Thanks!
The Ryan Gosling movie was Really Good!!!
Now we just need the 6 Billion Dollar Man.
those Top Cat movies are made by and for Latin America, cause TC is HUGE there!
Yes, I was unaware of this. Why is it so popular there? Are they also fans of Phil Silvers (since Top Cat is based on Phil Silvers/ Sg. Bilko)?
@@atomicabe they are not! And Doberman voices Benny so cool! Crossover would be epic! I dont know, I just know they love him there! They tried to get the latin voice actors for the JellyStone segments, but they didnt care for the gender bending, or how he was handled, so they edit out the Top Cat parts to not tarnish the legacy!
They just used the name. I wouldn't even call it a reboot. I wonder if the movie would've done better if it was call "The Stuntman" so it wouldn't have people going "Oh no...reboot of show I don't know, so I must not see what is basically an original movie with practical effects like I keep whining about wanting to see"
Scarecrow and Mrs King i loved. Scarecrow is TRON.
hey I know that guy from a Dexters lab episode!
williams was also in one of the two "reunions" of the wild wild west. the first one playing the son of the one bad guy dr. loveless. supposedly that or the next one was a pilot for a continuation series eihter of episodes or perioidc movies (ie perry mason movie series) but it got cancelled abruptly when the one playing artemis gorodn died just a few weeks either after the second movie got filmed or after it was shown.
That's right! I never saw those, but I've read about it.
Paul Williams was also on like a thousand episodes of The Love Boat. Lol
Yes -- and Paul Williams wrote the theme to THE LOVE BOAT. (Which Gavin McLeod claims is about God's love.)
17:35 Mario Kart but is in the 70s/ 80s
ha! For real.
What do you mean fall guy is not a good idea to do a remake of, I wanted to be a stuntman more than anything growing up because of that show, I jumped from the roof of my house at 10, I built a dirt ramp behind my house in a field that wasn't farmed building it bigger and bigger as I got used to it untill i was jumping so high that I blew out all 4 shock seals on my 73 Suzuki ts125 and ruined the bearings in the gooseneck, so then I built it longer for distance untill I was hitting it all out at a little over 50 mph (the bike top speed) it was like flying, I got so good on the bike I started crashing on purpose because that's what colt did crash things, then by 12 I sold my 125cc bike and bought a 76 Honda mr250 Elsinore i could barely touch the ground with my tip toes and had to use a milk crate to stand on to start it, and that's when I discovered a old dead end gravel road with some railroad tracks that had been taken out years before at the end of it just a few miles from my house , it was the perfect set up a dead end gravel road with a gradual incline of about 1/16 of a mile long up to the top old tracks about 20 to 30 feet high from level ground, and the other side was really steep going down to a old tractor path for farmers to access there fields where the tracks once were, so I started slow and kept increasing my speed as I got comfortable with it all jumping both ways one way you went almost straight up so I never got past third gear jumping that way but hitting the side with the gradual incline I got to where I finally had the courage that I did once all out at just a hair over 70 mph, now that was flying no clue how far I went and like a dummy I was alone so no one witness it but it seemed like I flew forever, I so wish we had cell cameras back then, but the landing on the other hand was the scariest thing i ever experienced on a bike, when I landed all four shocks bottomed completely out, my feet bent around the pegs so hard my feet hurt for days, my chest hit the gas tank, my full faced helmet hit the handle bars, the bike died, the tab that held the muffler to the frame broke off, the handle bars actually bent a little, and some how I barely kept it bike on its wheels, turned out for some reason the landing shorted out the coil, and the chain evidently pulled so hard on the back wheel as it compressed it knocked it out of adjustment, I never attempted it again after fixing the bike it was the only time I was truly scared in a bike, but I have the fall guy matchbox truck and had the full size poster of Heather Thomas in her pink bikini on my wall beside my bed, still got both but the poster is not on my wall, that's all I wanted to be was I stuntman my whole life unfortunately not many opportunities for a stuntman in ohio, but I can still recite the song to this day , I own a square body 79 long bed Chevy truck with 33 inch tires, so glad they finally did something with the old show, now if they would bring back BJ and the bear, Hardcastle and McCormick , and knight Rider, us 80's latch key kids would be in heaven, for that fact a good remake of smokey and the bandit would be pretty awesome, did you know they fall guy movie with Ryan gosling isn't the first try at it, the rock was supposed to do a fall guy movie years ago don't know what happened there
What was "Telephone"? It was directed by the same guy that did Beretta?
Huh. I'm not sure. I only know "The Telephone" movie -- which was directed by Rip Torn (from a script by Terry Southern and Harry Nillson)
@@atomicabe ok I watched it again. You said “tele-film.” The first 2 times I swear I heard telephone.
The Rooster character starred in a pilot movie Rooster wherein he first met Sweets and teamed up.
Oh yes, we get into that.
4:53 ❤
Emily Blunt has become the new Rock. She's in every movie.
Is the Fall Guy movie really about the Fall Guy TV show, or is it closer to Burt Reynolds' film about a stunt man called Hooper?
This is like when the 2005 movie HOUSE OF WAX came out, but it was less a remake of HOUSE OF WAX and more like TOURIST TRAP
I've just watched it and I thought it was pretty good 😜
I never liked it but it WAS popular here in the UK. Crackin' good theme song though.
I watch the fall guy when I was a kid it was great and beloved this guy don’t know what the hell he talking bout