The Revenge Of Sulla

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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    This week Beau continues to chat all about the decline and fall of the Roman Republic with special reference to the return of Sulla to Italy after his adventures in the east. Sulla and his faction defeat all their opponents in the field, enter Rome, and reap a terrible revenge.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 105

  • @Pangora2
    @Pangora2 25 днів тому +85

    If Sulla was from this century: "No friend ever served me and no enemy ever wronged me who did not get the helicopter ride they deserved."

  • @CurtHowland
    @CurtHowland 25 днів тому +32

    "He just decided to renounce his power." I am reminded of Pinochet calling for elections in Chile, losing, and abiding the results.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 24 дні тому +1

      that happened? wtf
      from the way that's talked about you'd think it doesn't happen.

  • @YoungChunds
    @YoungChunds 25 днів тому +26

    Sulla tried to play nice guy by giving his opponents leniency, but they returned the favor by killing all his friends, and burning down his house, while he was away in the east protecting Rome’s interests. Marius is responsible for breaking with precedents and reforming the military, which led to this sort of thing. Sulla even released his dictatorship and gave power back to the senate

  • @Doc_Tar
    @Doc_Tar 25 днів тому +34

    The Marius -Sulla Era is one of the most interesting in Roman history.

  • @M4dM4n96
    @M4dM4n96 25 днів тому +20

    Sulla: The Last Republican is a fantastic book and has managed to convince me that Sulla was based as fuck, highly recommend

  • @angmori172
    @angmori172 25 днів тому +7

    'the days of being reasonable are over'
    Amen to that

  • @thetruth45678
    @thetruth45678 25 днів тому +37

    I may have to buy this series from the website. Lots of videos about Marius, but your presentation is top-tier.

  • @skfunk4550
    @skfunk4550 22 дні тому +3

    Beau's history podcasts are so awesome. I absolutely love anything historical and being narrated his way is awesome. I'd love a British history podcast, pretty please.😊

  • @abigailslade3824
    @abigailslade3824 25 днів тому +7

    When he was a young man he was considered Romes most handsome man, however while in the east he suffered a terrible illness that ruined him.

  • @josiahkepley
    @josiahkepley 25 днів тому +5

    We're due for Sulla

  • @egillskallagrimson5879
    @egillskallagrimson5879 25 днів тому +16

    He kill my Pa he kill my Ma but I still vote for him. - Sulla's election slogan probably

  • @S41GON
    @S41GON 24 дні тому +4

    My interpretation of the Sulla-Marius conflict and the paralels that can be drawn from it is a bit different from what some of the commenters seem to believe. Sulla was a member of the optimates, the party that murdered the Gracchus brothers who pushed for land reform and stood up for the pauperized independant small farmers whose farms were wrecked in the Punic wars in Italy. The optimates were the oligarchs in the Roman Republic who owned all the latifundiums, large lands that they bought up from the middle class that was going bankrupt because they were the ones who went to serve in the military and couldn't attend their farms while they were away. Contrary to that, Marius, and later Caesar, his nephew were on the side of the populares.

  • @bluestatepaine
    @bluestatepaine 25 днів тому +19

    Apropos of nothing that’s happened recently in NY courtrooms, I’m sure

  • @thebreeze6765
    @thebreeze6765 24 дні тому +2

    It's great to hear about characters in history. It's like real storytime.
    Sounds like Lenin, Stalin, Robespierre. The Terror.

  • @abigailslade3824
    @abigailslade3824 25 днів тому +5

    My favourite period of history.

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 25 днів тому +6

    🤔Watch my country destroyed or have a Sulla conserve it?
    Threaten me with a good time and watch me dance.🕺🏼💃

  • @RandomGuy010
    @RandomGuy010 24 дні тому +3

    I wonder, how long a list would the names of every corrupt statesman, newsperson, and corpo amount to?
    With this in mind, I find myself unable to think ill of Sulla's actions. Perhaps he was just the kind of man we sorely need right now.

  • @nioengland
    @nioengland 25 днів тому +2

    That can do attitude is greatly needed in these times of weakness.. The actions of a normal man should never come as a shock to anyone.. Unless maybe until the corruption has reached epic new levels

  • @GreentextFeverDreams
    @GreentextFeverDreams 25 днів тому +12

    Sulla was unimaginably based

  • @radical6905
    @radical6905 25 днів тому +8

    the bust with the nose missing is, I gather, more likely to be Scipio Africanus than Sulla

    • @HistoryBro
      @HistoryBro 25 днів тому +1

      I think not... I'd be interested to know where you got that info from though?

    • @zenatti364
      @zenatti364 25 днів тому +1

      I don't think so, this bust with the nose missing is at the Glyptothek in Munich (I saw it personally)

    • @radical6905
      @radical6905 25 днів тому +2

      @@HistoryBromea culpa here, looking into it more this does look to be a Sulla bust. There is another bust with the exact same piece missing that was misidentified as Sulla and looks incredibly similar - probably why it was identified as such

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 19 днів тому

      I think they should restore the nose as it's removal was an act of vandalism and not as intended by the sculptor.

  • @FriedrichVSS
    @FriedrichVSS 25 днів тому +21

    Ancient helicopter rides.

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 3 дні тому

    Very interesting

  • @davestevenson9080
    @davestevenson9080 25 днів тому +20

    if only trump would do this in NY

  • @mattanderson6672
    @mattanderson6672 25 днів тому +1

    So well read,
    Really interesting, thank you

  • @CivilizedWasteland
    @CivilizedWasteland 25 днів тому +4

    I love the narrative of Sulla just leaving power one day and the story of the boy shouting at him as he leaves it really touches on the modern era. You have politicians or elites who think they are doing public good and don't even realize how badly they destroyed everything for a slight extension of the status quo when they eventually retire.

  • @kinvert
    @kinvert 25 днів тому +4

    We need a deeply conservative Machiavellian right now.

  • @RFSA180
    @RFSA180 22 дні тому

    Incomprehensibly fuckin’ based Sulla.

  • @TheAlison1456
    @TheAlison1456 24 дні тому

    this was wild

  • @2tone209
    @2tone209 25 днів тому +8

    AY UP LOTUS EATERS

  • @delimpiador
    @delimpiador 24 дні тому +1

    Make Sulla Great Again

  • @ibnyahud
    @ibnyahud 25 днів тому +4

    We mean this politically, of course.

  • @valor5985
    @valor5985 25 днів тому

    I've never seen this bronze sculpture of Sulla before (thumbnail pic). Does anyone know where it is from and where more images of it can be found online?

  • @user-nj5bd8ly1y
    @user-nj5bd8ly1y 25 днів тому +1

    👍

  • @jankusthegreat9233
    @jankusthegreat9233 25 днів тому +2

    I have ulcers like him.....oh no

    • @vendomnu
      @vendomnu 25 днів тому

      Enjoy the butt worms!😮

  • @ryanstephenson7312
    @ryanstephenson7312 24 дні тому

    No more - Sulla probably

  • @kyleglenn2434
    @kyleglenn2434 25 днів тому

    sounds like he died from sepsis from a burst appendix.

  • @thebreeze6765
    @thebreeze6765 24 дні тому

    Then again, maybe he actually did save the Republic unlike the others. I don't know enough to say.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin День тому

      The collapse was in full swing by then, and the trend of dictators seizing power is what led to the end regardless (ie. Julius Caesar 50 years later). The cure was worse than the disease. How could a bunch of tribunes who shared power in order to merely bully the senate, out and out end the republic? No, it took someone with maximum power to undo the laws that made up the republic.
      In truth, the answer is always a balancing of two extremes.

  • @Unpainted_Huffhines
    @Unpainted_Huffhines 24 дні тому +1

    I want to see something similar during Trump's 2025 inauguration, but limited to democrats, never-Trump Republicans, and lefty celebrities.

  • @praack4563
    @praack4563 25 днів тому

    aaaggghh - watched this and at the end i hear ( to watch the WHOLE video ) no way - no way do i want to hear about someone as insane as pol pot or idi amin.... nightmare city man...

  • @Yujifanik
    @Yujifanik 25 днів тому +12

    0:13 you can thank the early Christians for the nose job, on an otherwise very impressive piece of artwork.

    • @oatdilemma6395
      @oatdilemma6395 25 днів тому +1

      But but but Christianity based????

    • @kevintierney5711
      @kevintierney5711 25 днів тому +2

      It’s strange, but it almost makes him look like Voldemort with hair. It’s surreal, how he basically becomes a monster terrorizing his own people. Defacing the monument is wrong, but it’s kind of poignant in its own way (thank heavens it was not completely destroyed)

    • @tycannon8888
      @tycannon8888 25 днів тому +9

      I'm not sure we can definitively say it was done by early Christians. Protruding areas of statues are often damaged by moving, removing, looting etc. There is an old pagan tradition originating in Egypt that removing the nose of a statue would render the statue powerless. Iconoclasm among many religions has certainly defaced statues but normally in more extreme or obvious ways, such as carving a cross into the face.

    • @tycannon8888
      @tycannon8888 25 днів тому

      ​@@oatdilemma6395Yes

    • @The_Nowhereman
      @The_Nowhereman 25 днів тому +1

      "What has Christianity ever done for us" hey!

  • @fillyfresh
    @fillyfresh 25 днів тому +1

    Sulka more like. Amirite?!?

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  • @BarryStanton1488
    @BarryStanton1488 25 днів тому +2

    IMAGINE IF TRUMP DID THIS!

    • @CJ-rx5fi
      @CJ-rx5fi 25 днів тому +3

      Oh no! We would lose all the fine ladies on the View! Heaven forfend! 😂😂😂

    • @jeremybrimmer1990
      @jeremybrimmer1990 24 дні тому

      TDS

    • @BarryStanton1488
      @BarryStanton1488 24 дні тому

      @@jeremybrimmer1990 I didn't say it would be a bad thing!

  • @troymcmahon488
    @troymcmahon488 25 днів тому +1

    You get a dislike for labeling Sulla an "ultra-conservative". The concepts of conservative and liberal did not even exist back then and this has absolutely nothing to do with conservatives.

    • @YoungChunds
      @YoungChunds 25 днів тому

      You’re not as smart as you think you are

    • @coupledyetivonvanderburg5385
      @coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 25 днів тому +4

      I'm sorry, bud, do you think the concept of conservation is new or something? There have been conservatives, reactionaries, and radicals throughout all of time and in every place. What each of those terms mean is context-dependent, but very evident in said context

    • @josiahkepley
      @josiahkepley 25 днів тому +2

      He was an Optimate, their policies were oriented around preserving Rome as it had been before.
      This is a conservative position and has nothing to do with modern conservatism.

    • @jeremybrimmer1990
      @jeremybrimmer1990 24 дні тому

      Christ is risen

    • @HistoryBro
      @HistoryBro 17 днів тому

      Everyone from Mommsen to Durant to Dan Carlin use words like conservative and liberal and radical when describing Roman politics. It's completely common practice.