Best Long Log Fire 2018 REALLY?
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2018
- - Really Not The Best Long Log Fire, But By Coincidence I Watched A Video From A So Called Professional (Bushcraft?) Instuctor, Claiming That It Is, Even He Had No Idea How This Fire Works. So, I Decided To Do A Video On How To Do It Right.
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Welcome To Survival-Russia. One of the very best Outdoors and Survival related communities on UA-cam, and yes, It's a pretty good Channel too :)
My name is Lars. I'm From Denmark but I live in Rural Russia now. I live at a Homestead in wild nature surrounded by a huge forest.
On The Survival-Russia channel we do all things related to the Outdoors Lifestyle. I share my thoughts and experiences on Survival Techniques for the woodlands of the Northern Hemisphere. the Reality of Survival. I share Techniques and ways of the Siberian Tribesmen and the Russian Longhunters of the older days. Things not shown outside of Russia very much.
On this Channel we also do Off-Road driving, Vehicle builds, Metal Detecting, all things Outdoors basically. Enjoy!
Hi Lars, "the guy" here. Not only did your fans find me, I also found you. But I am here with respect and friendship. Despite your criticisms of my video (some founded, some unfounded) and your criticisms of me (not really necessary but hey, I'm a grown-up, I can handle it), I liked your video. I've not seen any of your videos before but I did enjoy it. I think you mistook my reason for building the fire. While I have made a lot of long fires with multiple logs as well as more "structured" three log fires, I've not done the two log fire much. I have done it before but here I wanted to do it with the biggest logs I had tried. As you can see it was beautiful, straight Pinus sylvestris. The reference to "den basta stockelden" is from Yngve Ryd's book about Sami fire techniques and not any claim of mine. But like you, I guess I wanted to test this claim. Personally I prefer the three-log fires as they are easier to construct and easier to get going strongly. It was all filmed on one day by the way and the reason I had a camera guy with me was that we had been filming some other things and this was just an afterthought, something we did for fun. Ben filmed it anyway. We filmed it in 2015 actually but when I found the footage in early 2018, I thought I would edit it into a video to share what we did. Anyway, we can debate the placement of spacers and how much birch bark was used, etc. and frankly every single one of these fires I've seen done has been different. Each person does it differently. You are adamant about the stakes, yet I have rarely seen this. Have a look at the links below. I am not trying to prove a point or say you are wrong. My aim here is purely sharing information and experiences. What I did worked, just. We had very good, dry pine and a lot of birch bark. It took some ignighting and I did put some chips in as well. Yes, it needed fiddling with (as you noted) but eventually it went. The spacers were put in later to try to encourage the fire to spread a little more towards the ends, which actually did not make much difference. Is it my favourite fire lay? No way! A long way off. Was it an interesting experiment? Yes. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. I take them in good spirits. I hope you and your viewers are open minded enough to check out the links below to other examples of this fire lay and also maybe check out Yngve Ryd's accounts of Sami fire techniques. It is an interesting book. You don't have to agree with everything that's in the book though! :-) Warm regards, Paul
lyckligajag.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/att-sova-intill-en-eld/
azhfoto.blogspot.com/2012/12/christmas-at-skansen.html
naturallore.wordpress.com/2012/02/06/jokkmokks-marknad-2012-part-1/
Thank you Paul :) First off - my video should not be seen as an attempt to be unfriendly, even it might be perceived as such. I'm actually happy you are a grown man too :) Anyway, I think your video left the viewer, which knows this fire lay, with a "funky" impression. It left me with the impression of a "guy" making a "How To" and not an experiment. Having made this fire lay a good few times, and slept by it during milder winter conditions, the part with the birch bark between the logs just made me go "WHAT???" Enough of that Paul..
My favorite fire lay is of course the Siberian Log Fire, which I brought to UA-cam. A very little known fire lay which is great during all seasons, but especially for winter. I use it a lot. In this video I did an overnight in -30C in open air, no shelter. the Siberian Log fire was key to stay warm. ua-cam.com/video/PGq-grG7pp8/v-deo.html
I certainly appreciate you getting back to me in good spirits Paul :) Hell, maybe we could even do a Fire Lay (or other) collaboration at some point.
Happy Healthy 2019!!
@@SurvivalRussia Thanks for your reply Lars, also in good spirits :-) I understand your comments regarding my video and I think one thing I have learned from this is just to keep to self-filming, even if it is more raw and shaky, rather than have someone help me by filming. That way, it's more authentic to what happens and the important points can be captured or talked about to the camera. With self filming more scope for just talking to the camera. My friend is a TV cameraman and he really doesn't like it when I talk to the camera! He also likes to make things very polished (which I understand his reasons for). So, the film was an experiment in several levels and it has been a learning experience. And your comments have been part of that learning experience so I thank you heartily for this! I'll check out some of your other videos and yes, wouldn't that be fun - to do a collaboration at some point? Warm regards to you and your family for a healthy and peaceful 2019. Paul.
Get Out The Popcorn :) Please Watch The Whole Video If You Want To See How This Fire Burns When It's "Burned In" :)
Happy Holidays To Everybody And Happy Healthy 2019!!
Great vid. I think from what you have shown the Siberian is better in every way. THANK YOU again for yet another great and informative video. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's to you and yours.
Happy Yule for you Lars, Mrs. survival Russia, little pink and blue ninjas and dragon ;-)
Could not stop myself. I had to leave him a comment.
Merry Christmas and happy new yr for you and family brother
Great tutorial on the long fire ! I used the Siberian log fire I like it a lot better then this long fire marry Christmas to you more and the ninjas be blessed brother
I am quite sure that I watched that same video and noticed several of the things that you mentioned. The videography though was quite well done as I recall.
Certainly seems like a lot of work for little payoff. Good video!
Lars, you are better than 99% of American television.
My final judgement (you asked for it):
Honest people don't care about the soot in their face, because they know it's not important how you look like when it is about to survive. That's why I admire your channel.
You and your family have a good time! See you next year!
This guy puts so much into his videos. They are unbelievable. The dreams I have to live in this mans shoes are uncounted. The respect I have for this man is unlimited. Major props love this guy
Traditionally a firelay like this was always aligned with the wind, and the even burning is dependant on the wind also. If there was no wind, the firelay would be made out of three logs. Two on the bottom, one on top. I don't make fires like this, but these things are thoroughly explained in vintage Finnish outdoor literature.
I prefer the three log method. a lot less fuss👍
Thank you Ali.
Thank you I thought just the same: Why not use three logs in a pyramid. And your answer is, yes it's being done but wind makes it burn unevenly.
I'd like to see this kind of old literature, as I believe they were a lot more experienced with it than we (especially youngsters) are. Are there references to be founf in english, swedish or norwegian?
@@anhatur once I've been in company where we made it of 3 logs. We all convinced, that it is like a touristic home camin, and better than of two.) But it not goes like pyramid. Front of this like 2log nodiya, and the third one is just little bit lower and back then the top one. So the burning space makes an angle. Adjusting it with the snow or earth.
Kappas, löytyi uusi kanava mitä en aikaisemmin ollut nähnytkään. Hyvälaatuista materiaalia. Tilataan ja katsellaan. Mukavaa tutustua kotimaiseenkin tuotantoon.
Youngster was just schooled by the Master Woodsman. Well done sir. Peace my friend.
That youngster runs his own Bushcraft and survival school was a lead instructor for Ray Mears at woodlore and is I believe a qualified Arctic guide!!!
Regardless of the debate, it’s my opinion that this lay is too labor-intensive. When many other lays would be easier and burn less calories trying to make it.
I like it when you show a problem on another video and demonstrate the right way. Reminds me of when another UA-camr thought the Silky saw was dangerous to carry in a pack because of the sharp tip if the saw. You just simply turned it around in your pack hinge upward and said “problem solved”!
Thank goodness we have Lars, who knows what he's doing, teaching us the right way to do things. Merry Christmas, and thank you.
Thank you for showing us how it's done the proper way.
Lars,you are the best at this bushcraft that I have seen on the you tube.I guess its because you live it, and you are old school, a lot of these people that do this stuff, are just doing it for the money and are fake, I can see you enjoy this stuff.I am 60 yrs. old and we called this stuff camping, and we learned it from our elders and we loved it.Thank you for being real and true.
Good job mate. I was reading an old book talking about a man from Transbaikalia who built a Naida and they were able to sleep in their undergarments in the snow.
Thank you very much.
Happy christmas Lars for you and your family. You are awesome guy. Because of you i have found my passion to nature again. It's so relaxing. Thank you so much.
Pikkuhartte From Finland
Same here, between watching Lars and Helsinkipop they have fed inspiration in getting me back out there with simple gear. Just did an overnight-er last night on a mountain top with nothing more than a sleeping bag and ground mat. Just awesome!!
@@LtFrankDrebbin Problem with Helsinkipop is that he's a through and through communist. Can't stand his proletariate talk.
Lars, I hope people don’t send you comments that you don’t know your log fires. You live in a place that’s survival every time you step outside. Thanks
,we had a maple log smolder for 5 days and it poured rain for 6 hours on second day. Love your videos . Thank you for the sensible and useful information.
There's nothing quite like waking up freezing at 3 am to find that your long fire went out. Luckily, I had my dog to huddle with for warmth. That was my first experience, last night. I'm watching this video trying to figure out what I did wrong.
Edit: Wet logs...I didn't check to see if they were dry, and I found the,m on the ground. This video is very informative
Thank you! You addressed some important issues I think. For my part I will stick to the Siberian Log Fire😉⚔🔥
I know exactly who the guy is and I watched the video months ago with the same thoughts. Strangely, a few days ago I responded to one of his tweets, as he claimed the axe was the best winter tool to have with you. I disagreed, stating a saw is more important, something I've learnt over many years of winter camping in Canada. I guess we all have our opinions :)
@Craig : Not if they are used correctly. I've had mine for decades. I carry an axe & a saw. Always choose the best tool for the job. Disclaimer: I do NOT own an SR-approved Silky.....at least, not yet!
@@allengrant the truth is usually somewhere in the middle...you are correct, you need both, saw and axe. The longer you plan on staying in the Bush, the larger the axe & saw. I will even go so far as to say two knives, one for bushcraft & eating, and a larger "chopper" for batoning (if that is your thing).
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 I take both but if I could only take one it would be a saw. Cutting logs with an axe is way too much work :D
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 : 100% agree. About knives, I carry a Benchmade Barrage in my pocket(EDC) and a KaBar fixed, in my pack. During hunting season, I have a skinner as well.
My ax is better than your ax. It's a Husqvarna Multi-ax. Needed for this size log. If you have any questions about my ax please feel free to ax me about it. I saw the guy saw too but will never admit I saw it. I could saw the log with my Huskie Multi-ax Saw-log kit but if you saw me do it I would have to saw you flat with my multi-saw because it's a secret woodsie thing I saw someone else saw with it but now I want to make it mine because I want to start a channel of woodsie saw stuff. Maybe some choppy stuff too. I need to grow my beard so it is long and woodsie. And later I'll saw it off. Or maybe chop it off. Probably saw it off with a sawtooth stick. Or burn it off with grease wood aka that pine bitch - but that would hurt if I got smoke in my eyes.
Love your channel Lars and I have learned a great deal from you over the last two years. Having tried both of these fire set-ups, I fully agree that the Siberian Log Fire is vastly superior in its comparative ease of construction, the heat output, the directionality of the heat radiation, the usefulness for cooking and the way that the construction of the SLF allows the user to effectively adjust the heat output as needed.
Thanks again!
YOUR SIBERIAN LOG FIRE IS SO MUCH MORE PRACTICAL. KEEP BEING AWESOME!
Great video even after 3yrs later I use this to teach what not to do
This video has everything - a woodsman speaking English with heavy accent, snow, and a long-log fire call out of another woodsman. Let the long-log fire competition begin! Nice log lift at 4:55.
awesome that you can critique anothers' style graciously and we can learn even more from it by the comparison...AWESOME
Happy holidays my friend, love your vids. You are AWESOME! Blah blah blah.
Merry Christmas Lars. You’re quite a gentleman. Thank you for your kindness. We really need it now.
Merry Christmas and thank you for all the great videos!
Thank you Lars, you are always a pleasure to watch. Thank you for all you do.
Excellent video again! Exactly why this is one of my favorite channels. I have never made the long fire with 2 logs I have generally used 3. 2 on the bottom one on the top. Very educational, love the straight to the point instructional video!
Its always classier and professional to SHOW people how skilled you are instead of telling people how bad or unskilled other people are. All of these tips are subjective and have many variants. Things that work for one may not sit comfortable with others, its a craft not a science and craftsmen are different the world over.
Thanks, Lars! I hope you and the family have a Happy Yule and that 2019 brings you all happiness, health and prosperity!
Lars, firstly may I wish you a wonderful 2019 full of adventures! I would secondly like to say your videos you make show the real deal in a real environment which is super helpful. I have learnt alot from your vids in the past year and look forward to learning more and enjoying your outdoor vids in this next year. Best wishes Vee
I like that this guy is a typical Russian. We do it right, we do it better. No shaming...he is being himself and I love that in people. I learned a lot here and will watch more of his vids. I see The Guy made a post and was again...himself.
Love the slow mo hatchet work....you and your family have a good Christmas Lars!
Finally I was able to see it with my own eyes. Thank you.
I read about this type of heater long time go.
In that opus it was built made out of 2 freshly felt pines and made long enough to comfortably keep worm entire Finish army platoon.
Just re-watched a video Lars made from last year (long lasting camp fire on deep snow), that I encourage everyone to check out. It can be used, and it accomplishes everything this fire lay does, but in my opinion is easier to maintain and less fussy. Go with 3 or 6 logs to maximize weather resistance👍
Thanks for all your videos, Lars.
Lars, thanks for sharing, looks like you received some new snow, great to see you again !
I think it's nice and very honest of you not to mention his name and channel and asking not to post negative comments there. You're a good man Lars. I wish you and your loved ones the very best for 2019. May it be full of awesomeness.
Thanks Lars! Another fun day in the woods...
Honorable man Lars, hats off to you. In my opinion you are the best teacher on the Tube!
I have learned so much from you. You have great sound advice on everything you talk about. Thank you for your channel
I saw a lot of viseo’s to make logfire but you and lonny from far north bushcraft are the best.
You are such a great teacher. Thanks once again for all this good information.
Its absolutely relaxing to watching you.You are original like no other!
Happy Christmas. Your diplomacy is admirable. Thank you for the demo and history.
Another great instructional video! You are an excellent teacher, kind to those who perhaps do things wrong and very knowledgeable about your subject. Thanks so much for a great 2018 full of videos!
Thank you :)
Happy Healthy 2019!!
great video i have seen the other video and i have to say i could not believe what i was seeing i have spent some 25 years here in the canadian rockies building fires etc and fire safety is one of my strongest points to learn i did contact him on several occasions and not once did he admit that his video was not only wrong but also dangerous information , I lost all respect for him at that point, we all make mistakes just be man enough to say so. , great video lars. i will say no more on this matter.
Totally awesome!!!
I tried this method last winter and I'm pleased to say I did it just like you did and it worked fine. I was following Lonnie's instructions, Lonnie knows his shit, just like you Lars.
Thanks for your efforts.
Thank you for your time. Awesome good stuff
So awesome. Learned something new today. Thanks Lars
I've built camp fires like this and they turned into a huge fire the length and highth of the log stack. Merry Christmas to the Lars family.
You are the best surviver Lars! Thanks for the input, i watch you channel everyday! Thank You!
Happy Holiday Lars. Keep up the amazing videos
thank you for creating and sharing the video, I appreciate it.
Just found your channel today and I’m loving the information here!
Thank you Lars. Happy holidays you you and your family. Enjoy your time off with your family!
Great video! My intro into this log fire was many years ago when reading the book: Beasts, Men & Gods by Ferdinand Ossendowski (set i/t 1920s). The description in the book is rather brief, but I do remember that they drove big wedges at the butt ends to separate the two tree logs. Thanks for sharing Lars!
Scandawhoovian Gap Fire. Yep... the principle of sustaining the burn beyond tinder ignition is indeed providing that initial 'gap'. You went through quite a bit of time with effort to exhibit what it is and what is is not all cracked up to be. It has its place... not a bad firelay in muskeg, swampy or flooded scenarios or deep snows... especially a 5 log variant that you almost never see. Happy Holiday Cheer to you and yours Lars.
Thanks for putting things right. Good job.
Merry Christmas Lars and family! May 2019 bring us more of your awesome vids!
You and your family deserve a good Christmas holiday season. Peace to you and your endeavours from Ontario, Canada.
Merry Christmas to Everyone!! Lars, Mrs Survival Russia, the Ninjas and the Boss
Thank you Lars ,
Seasons greetings to your and all yours . all the best for the new year .
There is an instructor on UA-cam that does know what he's talking about - you prove that every time! I wish you, Mrs. Survival Russia, the Blue en Pink Ninja and the rest of your family Happy Holidays and everything you could wish for in 2019!
If I wanna no the best fires cold weather things the best channel is hear. THANKS 🙏 GOD BLESS U AN FAMILY
Very cool, I love the frankness. Great video.
In Lars we trust first and foremost. I really enjoy your channel and all the wisdom and knowledge you share from around the world and based on your knowledge, first hand and from experimentation. Great job! Have a great holidays and see you in 2019 along with your family.
Lars, you bring up an excellent point about not wasting time by "trolling" the person to who you referred. My personal policy is this: I'm fairly experienced in bushcraft / survivalism. So, if I see a video made by someone who doesn't know what he is doing, but pretends to be an expert, I just figuratively write him off and don't bother watching anything else he puts out. There is more than enough negativity in our world without my adding to it. And, there are plenty of people out there who do know what they're doing.
I would suggest that there is nothing wrong with calling out what’s wrong with a video - in this case, you could save a life!
Thank you both :) Happy Healthy 2019!!
@@lwheatcraft Although there is a certain Darwinian elegance to letting things unfold naturally :)
Merry Christmas Lars to you and your family. Thanks for all the great video's in 2018!
That's a LOT of work. You keep yourself warm doing all that work.
You have really helped me see outdoors menship in a different light, especially with regards to the silky saw, which i now own, and fires, we appreciate all your videos, and that you are not driven by manufacturers or the latest fad, my wife and i wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year.
God Jul kompis! thanks for so much Uncie Lars.
Happy happy happy new year to you and the family.
Merry Christmas Lars and thanks for another great video
Hope you and the family have a wonderful Christmas and New Years and thank you for all the fantastic videos!!!! How's your pet Owl? ;)
I can see why you made this video and I agree with you. I am entertained by the "UA-cam" experts on survival and equipment but I also worry some city kid will buy a truck load of expensive pretty gear and go out into the real wild! I appreciate the knowledge you put in your videos and tell everyone about you I can... Keep it up. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for yourself and your family!
Thank you :) Happy Healthy 2019!!
Fantastic fire!!!!! I will definitely be using that!
you are awesome just like your videos. I learn something new with every video. Thank you
I'm fortunate enough to have seen most of your videos by now (hoard watching these last couple months) and know you're 100% respectable and humble. I've personally seen you say you weren't an expert on a few things but were just showing how YOU do things. I respect that!
I know you don't want anyone commenting crap on that guy's video. It's a shame people learn the wrong skills but it's still the viewer's job to research everything properly. Most people these days are lazy and just believe whatever they see. I'm just glad I found YOUR channel and not one of those other ones. I always get bored of channels but yours is the exception. I could watch you doing laundry. LOL Ok, maybe not but you get the idea.
Edit: I just saw the comments between you and that guy and am glad to see how gentlemanly it was. Well done by both of you!
Merry Christmas from Canada! Thanks for the video!
Lars, Prosperity & Health to Your Family & Yourself in 2019
Merry Christmas to you Lars, Mrs. SR and the ninjas!
As a retired soldier of the CANADIAN ARMED FORCES, we have made many survival fires in winter. Some tactical, some not do tactical. As long as you have dead dry wood, one can keep a fire going for days. If it goes out, that was the wrong way. Stay warm, stay dry, have fun
Lars, Just watched two other videos far north bushcraft, Lonnie. Plus the chap you talked about. Lonnie worked with three logs, He said the fire would not radiate, well but his camp site, looked spot on for the night. But your large four log but fire is fantastic in all the areas. Cheers for this video Lars
That is some perfect axe swinging form right there. Hoo boy nice calm drop and that acceleration right at the end, and that sound , o thats a treat to hear. Could watch that all day
Man I really like your videos and your spontaneous laugs...
Your advices and the truth saved me from cold nights.
Thank you very much 😊
Lars, our climates seem to be very similar. I live on the western slope of the Wind River Range in Wyoming. We have very little snow ourselves for this time of year, only 8-12 inches. It’s also been unseasonably warm with most days around -10F for a low and 24F for a high. However, we have had several days in the past few weeks above 32F. It’s very odd for us.
Anyways, keep up the great work. I’m glad to see you back out in the forest doing outdoorsman stuff. These types of videos, along with the overnighters, will always be my favorite!
Hello from the hills of West Virginia,USA Stumbled on your channel & stayed because you speak English. Good video subbed....Thanks
great video as always Lars :-) Nice to see that "the guy" found you and wanted to be friends and respectful. I think that speaks highly of him. we all should stick together! That fire would be a little too heavy for me to accomplish I think lol.
I am not an expert with long log fires, but the one you just made is looking great and must last a long time. Thanks for sharing this information with us all and I wish you a great week and holiday period.
IVE NEVER MADE ANY FIRES LARS BUT I THINK WATCHING U ITS ALOT OF EFFORT BUT U MADE THAT PERFECT RESPECT G
Thanks for the great content over the year and you and the family have a great Xmass.
this is awesome!
Thank you for Teaching us the Correct Techniques for this Fire !
No problem 👍
Merry Christmas buddy, love your videos. 👍🏼⛄️
Lars, Merry Christmas to you and your family and a Happy New Year.
Happy Holidays to you and your family! May you have a healthy and blessed new year.
Happy Solstice btw. Beautiful cool night here in Florida. Can even see my breath :)
Great job. I can't wait to try one of these. Have great holidays Lars to you and your family. I hope Santa is good to the Pink Ninja. (If ya'll lean that way lol) . Thanks for all your videos!
Thanks Lars, best long log fire video out there.