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  • The military campaign in German East Africa during World War 1 went on longer than the whole war and thanks to Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck and his guerilla warfare is now infamous among the theatres of the great war. But what was the history behind German East Africa and was it really a gentleman's war and what role did the Askari play in it?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 729

  • @ignacio1171
    @ignacio1171 8 років тому +644

    After the war In 1964 the west german government decided to restablish the pensions paying the askaris still alive for their war service. However only a few claimants could produce the certificates given to them in 1918. Others provided pieces of their old uniforms as proof of service. The banker who had brought the money came up with an idea: as each claimant stepped forward he was handed a broom and ordered in German to perform the manual of arms. Not one of them failed the test.
    Just a fun trivia

    • @rlbadger1698
      @rlbadger1698 8 років тому +43

      +Ignacio Arrieta Wow, now that was a interesting piece of information.

    • @ignacio1171
      @ignacio1171 8 років тому +50

      +Lethal Bacon I remember reading this in history magazine some years ago. However I couldn't remember all the details so I borrowed some info off Wikipedia.

    • @rlbadger1698
      @rlbadger1698 8 років тому +1

      WD

    • @emperorofholyrome5403
      @emperorofholyrome5403 8 років тому +73

      +Ignacio Arrieta
      In that same year in 1964, two askaris visited Paul Von Lettow-Vorbeck's funeral as state guests.

    • @12321dantheman
      @12321dantheman 7 років тому +5

      i'd heard that, but not about the askari committing atrocities.

  • @Duke_of_Lorraine
    @Duke_of_Lorraine 8 років тому +372

    15 vs 250 000. Reminds me of an add for the Maxim Gun
    "whatever happens, we have the Maxim Gun and they do not"

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +67

      +scarfacemperor Illustrates the mindset in colonial warfare too

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 8 років тому +6

      The Great War Overconfidence was the Europeans' worst enemy yes, like at Isandlwana

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 8 років тому

      ***** we'll see when Franz Joseph dies in november

    • @thomask5434
      @thomask5434 8 років тому

      +scarfacemperor Overconfidence maybe, but they did it! It sounds horrible, but the numbers there, unbelivable.

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 8 років тому

      Thomas K the problem of overconfidence is when it makes you underestimate the enemy, like for the battle of Isandlwana. The British separated their forces in 3 since they expected the Zulus to flee, so 3 columns were more likely to find them, while the Zulus charged one of the columns and destroyed it.

  • @TriatomicAI
    @TriatomicAI 8 років тому +1036

    Well, anything is better than Belgian Colonialism.

    • @strangeyoungman
      @strangeyoungman 8 років тому +215

      +Triatomic Ai If we set that bar any lower, we'd need a shovel.

    • @XXGDUBSXX
      @XXGDUBSXX 8 років тому +53

      +Triatomic Ai Actually it was actually not that bad once it became a Belgian colony rather than Leopolds' personal mess

    • @XXGDUBSXX
      @XXGDUBSXX 8 років тому +15

      Triatomic Ai
      That is also true.

    • @TriatomicAI
      @TriatomicAI 8 років тому +3

      XXGDUBSXX You must be very mad at what is happening to Europe right now then.

    • @XXGDUBSXX
      @XXGDUBSXX 8 років тому +15

      Triatomic Ai
      "Vote"
      Voting isn't going to solve Germanys problems. Direct action and Resistance is.

  • @LetsTakeWalk
    @LetsTakeWalk 8 років тому +74

    So basically the whole subscriber base (at this moment) of this channel was killed against the Germans in German East Africa.
    Let's sink that one in.

  • @kaboom138
    @kaboom138 8 років тому +52

    I am really glad you did an episode on colonial warfare in German East Africa. It goes perfectly with the bio special on Lettow-Vorbeck. I had no idea how widespread the destruction in East Africa really was. A very informative episode. Keep up the good work guys!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +7

      +kaboom138 Thanks, glad we could be of service.

  • @xxDrain
    @xxDrain 8 років тому +383

    hehe

    • @bryanwan6169
      @bryanwan6169 8 років тому +42

      *huehue

    • @m1994a3jagnew
      @m1994a3jagnew 8 років тому +8

      +xxDrain little known fact, the tribe's full name is the hih hee shamone

    • @HS-hx8ti
      @HS-hx8ti 8 років тому +49

      You could say the Hehe didn't get the last laugh.

    • @poiuyt975
      @poiuyt975 7 років тому +2

      Good one :)

    • @carolynekhisa273
      @carolynekhisa273 5 років тому

      @@HS-hx8ti , So where are the German Empires now?

  • @MephLeo
    @MephLeo 8 років тому +16

    The host's ability to captivate viewer's attention, the script carefully detailed and yet simple and straight-forward, everything in this show never fails to impress me, no matter how many episodes I have already watch. The table, though... I WANT THAT TABLE!! GIVE IT TO ME!!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +4

      +Leopoldo Aranha NEVER! We will feel the wrath of Justinian if we sell it.

    • @MephLeo
      @MephLeo 8 років тому +3

      The Great War I shall besiege your studio and rain down paper balls over your heads, following by a storm attack with rubber band machine guns and the final taking of the table by force will have might and fearsome tickle feathers as chief weapon. SURRENDER THE TABLE TO ME!
      Seriously, carry on the awesome work, guys!

    • @rescuepetsrule6842
      @rescuepetsrule6842 6 місяців тому

      I. WANT. THE. TABLE.

  • @rebelyell1983x
    @rebelyell1983x 8 років тому +61

    German South-West Africa needs an episode too. But I'm sure you guys are on it. You never disappoint. :)

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +19

      +rebelyell1983x Yes, that is also interresting.

    • @dylanrodrigues
      @dylanrodrigues Рік тому +1

      @@TheGreatWar did you ever end up making that video?

  • @addiem5123
    @addiem5123 7 років тому +5

    My great-great-grandfather fought in the First World War. He fought on the western front, and was going to be transferred to East Africa as an officer, but he got pneumonia on the way there and was hospitalized in South Africa for the rest of the war.

  • @dams6829
    @dams6829 8 років тому +136

    It would be nice if you would make special about baltic states.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +27

      +Ādams Vizulis We will in the future.

    • @dams6829
      @dams6829 8 років тому

      The Great War Tnx.

    • @PoVnotaajs
      @PoVnotaajs 8 років тому +1

      +Ādams Vizulis I agree. As we have heard so much about Baltic involvement in WW2 but WW1 is less discussed both in school system and in general.

    • @KittredgeRitter
      @KittredgeRitter 6 років тому

      It looks like from this map that Poland and all the eastern European countries didn't exist before ww1?

    • @sisophon1982
      @sisophon1982 3 роки тому

      @@KittredgeRitter pretty much yeah

  • @aversfudge5086
    @aversfudge5086 8 років тому +17

    It would be neat to see a special about the pacific in WW1, Australia, New Zealand and Japan's involvement

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +5

      +avers fudge There is a whole ANZAC episode already.

    • @lennymlati2848
      @lennymlati2848 11 місяців тому

      yes it would!!. Im Kenyan and my grand farther fought in these wars. Just yesterday i found out that they were shipped out to war from Taita where they defeated the Japanese Army. So im out here trying to research. We were not taught this in our History classes.

  • @narff1
    @narff1 8 років тому +15

    Imagine if the remaining troops of the SMS Emden, under von Mucke, managed to meet up with von Lettow in Africa

  • @_friedie
    @_friedie 8 років тому +23

    The Congo agreements were ignored by the Britih by attacking the German colonie in the battle of Tanga and not by the Germans under v. Lettow....!

  • @sp4lg
    @sp4lg 8 років тому +12

    I lived in Tanzania for a couple of years in the 70s. The story I heard was the British brought Indians and Pakistanis over to fight their war for them - because they didn't trust African draftees to not turn on them. 50 years later, the locals still sorta liked the Germans for the contrasting respect they had for the Askaris, giving them guns, etc. After the war Indians and Pakistanis stayed on to run civil gov't.
    Fast forward to when I was there in the 70s the socialist gov't of Tanzania started a program to confiscate Brit, Indian & Pak wealth, deport the people. Tanzania was impressed by the course of development in Maoist China.
    As it happened, socialism was a big failure in Tanzania.
    History takes all kinds of twists and turns.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +3

      +sp4lg It sure does. But to be fair, the Germans weren't the only ones using Askari.

    • @sp4lg
      @sp4lg 8 років тому

      +The Great War Yes. I haven't looked into it, but it would be neat to learn how the Brits persuaded Indians they should fight Germans in Tanganyika -- it really wasn't their fight. A lot of colonials were brought in to fight in both world wars. Then after WW II there were the bloody 'liberation' civil wars in several colonies -- Malaysia, Kenya, Vietnam, Algeria, etc.

  • @GerackSerack
    @GerackSerack 8 років тому +13

    15 to 250,000. Now, that's german efficiency at its finest!

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 8 років тому +7

      +GerackSerack I suppose youre being facetious but in case youre not: most of the dead were civilian non-combatants, so not so efficient for a stable and productive colony.

  • @BountyFlamor
    @BountyFlamor 8 років тому +32

    The British broke neutrality first in the East African Campaign.

  • @frickinrick89
    @frickinrick89 8 років тому +7

    I have spent the last two weeks of my life catching up on this series. I regret nothing. Also, if you guys are talking about Africa, I recommend Byron Farwell's "The Great War in Africa." You guys could read it and maybe include the stories of the SMS Konigsberg, whose crew was trapped in East Africa and became attached to von Lettow's unit, and Geoffrey Spicer-Simon, the kilt-wearing, tattooed hero of the Battle of Lake Tanganyika.

  • @jads7866
    @jads7866 8 років тому +8

    I am Happy to see you have a good subtitle now. Well i am from germany, i dont understand spoken english very good but now, i understand better then before. Thanks for that

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +3

      +Julian Danielson Wir fügen die englischen Untertitel vom Script ein und dann ist die automatische Übersetzung wesentlich besser. Einige Fans übersetzen aber auch freiwillig für uns direkt auf UA-cam.

    • @jads7866
      @jads7866 8 років тому +1

      +The Great War Auf jeden Fall lässt es sich für mich dann besser verstehen danke für die Antwort Flo :D

  • @portiagriffey4403
    @portiagriffey4403 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you really interesting and gives me some background. I am reading my grandfather's POW diary of 1915. He was taken POW in Tanga when broke out and remained a POW throughout the war. He was a priest with a missionary.

  • @Kiwicrack
    @Kiwicrack 8 років тому +10

    I'm so sad. I had been binge-watching the Great War for the last month, in spurts. I'm now caught up.

  • @henogtjikune7483
    @henogtjikune7483 8 років тому +33

    It would be nice if you make a video on German south west Africa in relation to world war one

  • @SelfmadeTop10
    @SelfmadeTop10 8 років тому +135

    3:45
    This part is extremely inaccurate.
    Lettow-Vorbeck didn´t broke the Congo-Acts and brought the
    war to Africa. All german colonies remained neutral, hoping the Entente
    would respect the Congo-Acts. Not a single german colony was capable of
    withstand the other colonial armies, so all of them sent neutrality offers.
    But at the start of the war, the British, French and Belgians devided the
    german colonies under theirselves and the war in the colonies broke out,
    after the Entente started invading Kamerun and Togoland on 6th August
    1914.
    In German East Africa the British broke the Congo-Acts even at first on 5th
    August, when British-Ugandan Troops attacked german outposts.
    After two battleships bombarded Dar-es-Salaam on 8th August the war was
    official. After these attacks who gave Lettow-Vorbeck´s plans popularity, he started his offensives.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +30

      +Selfmade List We didn't say he broke the Congo Act. These acts gave the option to remain neutral. He was not in favor of that anyway.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +37

      +The Great War But you are right, that this part deservea a few more sentences.

    • @SelfmadeTop10
      @SelfmadeTop10 8 років тому +15

      The Great War
      But how are his actions against the Congo-Acts if the Entente denied the neutrality offer of German East Africa and brought the war to it? At least at the time of the 8th August, the Congo-Acts were abolished. War broke out, and Lettow Vorbeck though attack would be the best defense.
      If all powers had accepted the Congo-Acts,I don´t believe Lettow-Vorbeck would have attacked.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +13

      +Selfmade In our opinion he would have. But that's easy to say.

    • @mysterionflex676
      @mysterionflex676 8 років тому +2

      +The Great War I know its late but what if schliefenplan was to get rid of russia first. then kill off the frenchmen... or if france invaded belgium and not germany... or rather france attacked belgium before germany. and what if britain never swore to protect belgium?

  • @simonwissel6767
    @simonwissel6767 8 років тому +8

    I love this channel,you just learn so much about ww1 here.

  • @Astragoth2
    @Astragoth2 8 років тому +31

    best youtube channel ever

    • @BUSHCRAPPING
      @BUSHCRAPPING 8 років тому +3

      Indeed

    • @mr.ramfan8100
      @mr.ramfan8100 4 роки тому +1

      We have learned soooo much about this 1914-18 nightmare...

  • @criffermaclennan
    @criffermaclennan 8 років тому +13

    great work again from indy and crew...looking beyond the trenches and showing how it was truly a world war...keep up the excellent work 👍

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +3

      +Christopher MacLennan Thanks, glad you liked it.

  • @StephenMortimer
    @StephenMortimer 8 років тому +118

    15 vs 250K.. sounds about right !!

    • @fahrenheit9646
      @fahrenheit9646 6 років тому

      Classy

    • @jarogniewtheconqueror2804
      @jarogniewtheconqueror2804 6 років тому +2

      Stephen Mortimer Still more historically accurate than 300

    • @danielortiz1887
      @danielortiz1887 5 років тому +4

      the way the statistic is presented is slightly misleading since in Africa, colonial powers tended to employ Europeans in officer roles while filling out the ranks of colonial constabulary and police forces with African locals. So while 15 Europeans died, the radio for both sides was likely much less.

    • @ingold1470
      @ingold1470 3 роки тому +1

      @@danielortiz1887 The video states the Askari figure to be 382. Still an insane ratio, could be some German exaggeration at play.

  • @highlandrab19
    @highlandrab19 8 років тому +14

    Indy i would just like to say that i have just made a video for UA-cam ( completely unrelated to WW1 and still in the long process of uploading) and i now feel like i have a greater understanding of what its like to make a video (it's awful guys) so on behalf of myself and everyone who watches your videos id like to thank you and the whole Great War team for the sheer effort and amount of time you must put into these videos.
    Yours sincerely - A subsciber

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +2

      +highlandrab19 Thanks a lot! Don't let the beginning discourage you. We all started with home editing software at a friends place. You just don't know that because there was no UA-cam when we did that.

    • @highlandrab19
      @highlandrab19 8 років тому +1

      The Great War Thank you that means alot to me! and once again thank you for everything you do for us.

  • @Orange_Laowai
    @Orange_Laowai 8 років тому +11

    I would like to see a profile on all German colonies, and Southern Rhodesia

  • @christopherwilliams7845
    @christopherwilliams7845 8 років тому +11

    Hey Indy and crew, since you guys are doing a series about Verdun the game i was wondering if you knew about Darkest Hour and the Kaiserreich mod. Darkest Hour is a strategy game from Paradox that allows you to play as a nation from 1914 to 1964, allowing you to play as Germany, Austria-Hungary, France, etc., during WWI. The Kaiserreich mod for the game is a popular mod that allows you to play in 1936 in a world were Germany won the first world war. You can play as either the glorious German Empire, Communist France and Britain, Papal Italy, and a second American Civil War amongst others. Just letting you know because i thought as an alternate of World War I it would be interesting to see you play and your thoughts of the outcome of an German victory. Thanks for reading and looking forward to more content.

  • @jnagrom1
    @jnagrom1 8 років тому +2

    What he doesn't bring out is that Von Lettow-Vorbeck's strategic vision was to draw off allied troops from Europe. Worked pretty well. Also doesn't mention that Von Lettow-Vorbeck received a British Commonwealth pension at the end of WWII. As an aside, Von Lettow-Vorbeck received a welcome home parade in Berlin at the end of WWI

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +3

      +Jim Morgan He thought he drew away troops from the Western Front but it is highly debatable if any of those local or Indian troops would have ever seen Europe. And the parade is mentioned in our bio episodes about him linked in the end of this video.

  • @nathanbrown8680
    @nathanbrown8680 8 років тому +74

    I wouldn't think "we were better colonial masters than the Belgians" would be a very controversial claim. Or of much merit. If it's even a reasonable comparison you're pretty bad.
    As vile as Carl Peters was, he wasn't Kaiser and he was recalled and dishonorably deprived of his commission when evidence of his abuses of power got back to Germany. Abuses, that horrific as they were were neither as horrific nor as systematic as Leopold II's.
    If Christ had been born fifty years earlier Leopold II would take bronze in the "most murderous tyrants of the 20th century" contest for his policies in the Congo Free State.

    • @sirwolfnsuch
      @sirwolfnsuch 6 років тому

      So to your taste nations only have to point at bigger atrocities in the past to excuse their own? Crimes against humanity = crimes against humanity

    • @effusivefugitive
      @effusivefugitive 6 років тому +9

      LargeDoubloon73 You couldn't even make it to the second sentence before putting words in his mouth. Amazing.

  • @Achillez098
    @Achillez098 8 років тому +27

    I recently wrote a research paper on Rwanda and Kosovo
    After the Germans lost East Africa after WW1, the Belgians took over Rwanda. Belgians saw the taller, more elegant Tutsi peoples as the superior race, and gave them more political power and better jobs. The shorter, stubby Hutu people were discriminated against. The Belgians also forced the locals to carry ID cards that labeled them as Hutu or Tutsi. After WW2, the Hutu and Tutsis would begin genocide against each other. This led to the infamous Rwanda Genocide of 1994.
    Thanks colonial powers, you planted the seeds for African genocide. Thanks international community, you guys did nothing during the genocide in 1994.

    • @aleksejkuhar6845
      @aleksejkuhar6845 8 років тому

      +Achillez What did you wrote for Kosovo? :D

    • @Achillez098
      @Achillez098 8 років тому +7

      Aleksej Kuhar
      The Kosovo War. Short version: Kosovo was part of Serbia, but most of the population is ethnic Albanian Muslims, while the Serbs were Orthodox Christians. Kosovo forces fought for independence, and both sides committed genocide against the other.

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 8 років тому +2

      +Achillez Thanks for sharing the research. It was a common colonial tactic (especially the British) to privilege some kind of ethnic minority to have a buffer between the majority and the colonial masters.

    • @XXGDUBSXX
      @XXGDUBSXX 8 років тому +1

      +Achillez Fuck off how come even after the colonial powers leave the native murdering each other en masse is still the europeans fault somehow?

    • @scottabc72
      @scottabc72 8 років тому +4

      First, this is the real world where there arent always clear 'good guys' just because the colonial powers were 'bad' doesnt mean their successors are always 'good'. Second, the colonial powers are still largely in control of the things they really care about, through multi national corporations often based in the old colonial countries. Different local groups then compete for power to supply the riches for world production, sometimes it gets violent but the corporations almost always get what they want.

  • @TripleEye_Josh
    @TripleEye_Josh 8 років тому +29

    I hope you guys focus on East Asia some time.

    • @paddy280
      @paddy280 8 років тому

      +JoshBadWriter the dutch in indonesia would be interesting

  • @konstantinoskotsomytis2544
    @konstantinoskotsomytis2544 8 років тому +2

    Great episode as always Indy! You guys should make an episode on the scramble of africa. It will explain how the situation got where we found it in Africa in WWI.

  • @wowrogue192
    @wowrogue192 8 років тому +98

    Hehe.

  • @Ngabo3
    @Ngabo3 4 роки тому +1

    My great grand father was one of the african soldiers in the Belgian Congo force publique. He fought in Rwanda, Burundi and and Tanzania. He later went to be one of the belgian congoless soldiers in Burundi

  • @SirSaladhead
    @SirSaladhead 8 років тому +1

    It's nice to hear about what was going on in german east africa. You hear so little about it in basically every other history show or school book.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +SirSaladhead Yes, and it's really important.

  • @madshagen5570
    @madshagen5570 8 років тому +117

    Can you do a special on the neutral countries in europe?

    • @bryanwan6169
      @bryanwan6169 8 років тому +7

      *switzerland

    • @PetroniusArbiter2
      @PetroniusArbiter2 8 років тому +14

      +Mads Hagen - Also:
      -- Albania, although both sides occupied it during the war;
      -- Denmark;
      -- Liechtenstein, on friendly terms with Austria-Hungary but never declared war;
      -- Luxembourg, occupied by Germany through most of the war but technically neutral;
      -- Monaco;
      -- Norway, on friendly terms with the UK but not itself a belligerent;
      -- Spain (Equatorial Guinea occupied by Germany during the war;)
      -- Sweden

    • @rudde7918
      @rudde7918 8 років тому +5

      LOL just accept that nothing happened in your country during WW1.

    • @rudde7918
      @rudde7918 8 років тому

      raf Nothing of importance to the War.

    • @rudde7918
      @rudde7918 8 років тому +7

      +raf The US wasn't neutral all the time. Therefore, it should be covered in this show. But for example Holland didn't play any role in the war.

  • @terryp2517
    @terryp2517 8 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video! I appreciate the objective look at the German Colonies of Africa

  • @xpto664
    @xpto664 8 років тому +2

    Great show, about your question, maybe an episode on the portuguese colony Moçambique. The batles on the Rovuma river saw a great deal of action, with a great toll on the locals.

  • @Africarespecter
    @Africarespecter 8 років тому +15

    Please do a video on Portugal or Japan during WW1

  • @mollyclock8238
    @mollyclock8238 8 років тому +1

    this is one of your best presentations.
    thank you.
    molly

  • @imperator692
    @imperator692 7 років тому +63

    Well they weren't as bad as the French in Algeria, or God forbid the Belgians in Congo.

    • @HammerheadGuitar
      @HammerheadGuitar 7 років тому +9

      To be fair it was without approval of Bismarck, who many consider to be the true leader of Germany.

    • @sirwolfnsuch
      @sirwolfnsuch 6 років тому +2

      HammerheadGuitar --- So to your taste countries can commit any kind of atrocity, as long as they have a figurehead who claims not to agree with it? Wouldn't that make for a stabile world. Crimes against humanity = crimes against humanity

    • @tec-jones5445
      @tec-jones5445 5 років тому

      Germany not as bad as Belgium or France?
      Cough cough, *Herero and Nama Genocide*

    • @fatmanwalking8610
      @fatmanwalking8610 5 років тому +8

      @@tec-jones5445 mate the genocide in namibia killed 70k, belgian alone killes 15 million in the Congo, so dont come up with stupid comparisons

  • @getsomegetsomenow
    @getsomegetsomenow 8 років тому +1

    Great piece. It's good to hear some specifics on the matter.

  • @beyOndzZz
    @beyOndzZz 8 років тому +8

    i need exacly the same type of channel for WORLD WAR 2 aswell.

  • @JohnDoe19xx
    @JohnDoe19xx 5 років тому +1

    I love this chanel all way from Tanzania

  • @VinnieBoombatz374
    @VinnieBoombatz374 8 років тому +15

    Seems like you guys have a decided anti German slant to this episode. You quote casualty figures for the colony from before the war to highlight the brutality of German colonialism, but you neglect to mention that all of the colonial powers did similar things, in some cases worse. Also, you imply that Lettow was warmongering at the beginning of the war, bringing the war to the British. Lettow was the realist in the situation, his governor was deluded. The British were dead set on conquering ALL of the German colonies, sooner or later. In the case of East Africa, they were probably waiting to build up a large enough Indian force for an invasion (perhaps even planning to make it a colony of a colony). In this situation, Lettow's only chance was to seize the initiative before his enemies could gather insurmountable forces against him. Lastly, as far as Lettow's reputation as a military genius is concerned, I can't speak to specifics, but I think the results speak for themselves. Germany had 3 other colonies in Africa, and they were all quickly overrun.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +17

      +Gregg Spencer Quickly overrun? Pretty sure you never heard of Kamerun where the Schutztruppe fought to the last bullet before they surrendered. Anyway, we should have made the situation with the British more clear, you are right. But was is so genius about LV not even fighting in the country he wants to protect making the local population suffer tremendously because of his idea to no surrender? And we never claimed that Germany was the only colonial power that did wrong, we just highlighted that they actually did because it is usually a part that gets downplayed significantly in Germany. And you know why we know that? Because the rest of the team is German.

    • @thatonemferyaknow3794
      @thatonemferyaknow3794 7 років тому +1

      REKT

  • @ladderjoe8545
    @ladderjoe8545 8 років тому +1

    I really enjoyed yesterday when I could play verdun with you guys. It's an honour.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +jota kebab Tractor?

    • @ladderjoe8545
      @ladderjoe8545 8 років тому

      +The Great War :D yeah I am the dude from Slovenia that talked about tractors. In verdun I am known as ladder Joe because of reasons.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +jota kebab Hahaha! Indy talked about the tractors the whole day. That was one funny mumble group.

  • @k-c
    @k-c 8 років тому

    One of my favourite youtube channels. Thanks to the crew for making such a quality and informative series. I wish you get more popular in future.

  • @Patrick_3751
    @Patrick_3751 8 років тому +6

    Another great job at showcasing the brutality of WWI, especially for the Native Africans. I hope you guys will be featuring the Belgian Congo in an upcoming special. If all of this was happening in German East Africa, I can only imagine what their western neighbor was going through.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +Patrick3751 Well, it was horrible, yes. But did it have a direct influence on the war?

    • @wisserke
      @wisserke 8 років тому +1

      +The Great War It's remarkable how a country that was almost completely overrun continued the fight from it's colony, no?
      Belgium also became the trustee of part of German East-Africa after the war. And I think people are just interested in the Belgian Congo in general, given it's reputation.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 8 років тому +2

    More worthy stuff from the First World War team. Good work, you folks.
    And fun from Wikipedia:
    Not until August 1907 were the last embers of rebellion extinguished. In its wake, the Maji-Maji rebellion left 15 Europeans and 389 native soldiers and tens or even hundreds of thousands [5] of insurgents and innocent bystanders dead. It also broke the spirit of the people to resist and the colony remained calm, thanks also to a change of governor which brought a more enlightened regime, until the outbreak of World War I.
    Lions in the area developed a taste for human flesh in the wake of the slaughter and the Songea region is still plagued by man-eaters[

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +2

      +William Cox Wow.

    • @WildBillCox13
      @WildBillCox13 8 років тому +1

      Here's the Tell All book, from Project Gutenberg: Man-Eaters of Tsavo
      www.gutenberg.org/files/3810/3810-h/3810-h.htm

  • @cassiusijeomah4239
    @cassiusijeomah4239 9 місяців тому

    Well Documented And Narrated

  • @samjelanyoh411
    @samjelanyoh411 10 місяців тому +1

    Please can you research on former German Kamerun and there, a former governor at the time who committed so many atrocities. His name was Jesco Von Putkamma.German Kamerun was wild.

  • @careltaute1944
    @careltaute1944 2 роки тому

    It is very ironic that when Genl Smuts conducted the East African campaign he encountered the same guerilla tactics from von Lettow-Vorbeck that he employed against the English about 16 years before...

  • @douglasoak7964
    @douglasoak7964 8 років тому +2

    Hey guys great series!
    You guys have mentioned that your show is made in Germany. Here in Canada, the media always speaks about the war with connotations of solemn pride. I was curious, how does the German media today, talk about the Great War?

    • @matthewhase150
      @matthewhase150 5 років тому +2

      @Douglas Oak They don't. Its effects are overshadowed by the completeness of the destruction and loss of life of the Second World War, for which their government at the time was responsible. The ideological and social impact that war has had in modern-day Germany is apparent today- many Germans are still assuming a "collective guilt" for the events of 1939-1945. Subsequently they do not commemorate WW1.

  • @asinner9096
    @asinner9096 2 роки тому +1

    Difficult to understand: on one hand von lettow Borbeck would inflict one defeat upon another on the British, , on the other he would not have been praised for his tactical talent. The ends do not meet somehow

  • @imperialwotanist6051
    @imperialwotanist6051 7 років тому

    Thank you sooo much for making this video, it really helped me with my school project

  • @parthgawarikar6481
    @parthgawarikar6481 8 років тому +1

    Indy I have requested before about episodes on British India and French Algeria and Morocco since the war began. Please do videos on these as well!!!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +1

      +Parth Gawarikar Sorry, you have to be very patient for those. Earliest possible time frame for those would be summer. But I cannot even promise that they will be ready this year. Sorry, we work rather slow. /Flo

    • @parthgawarikar6481
      @parthgawarikar6481 8 років тому +1

      It's ok, I understand you guys are very busy and are working hard to cover every aspect of this global scale war :) Not complaining, I just hope you cover them eventually.

  • @franciscojaviernarbaiza9517
    @franciscojaviernarbaiza9517 8 років тому +2

    I just "discovered" this channel... a very happy finding!!!. As a suggestion... What about the Neutral countries in Europe?. Thank you very much for your great job.

  • @idiotpolice1165
    @idiotpolice1165 8 років тому +2

    Thanks a lot indie been here since the start I know you have a lot of ww1 left but are you considering documenting other wars, conflicts or history in general

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +1

      +alan watts considering, yes, that's the right word.

    • @jordanrendell7168
      @jordanrendell7168 8 років тому

      +The Great War Hello from the former British colony of Hong Kong! My question for the next exciting episode of Out of the trenches is, were there any Scandinavian volunteers in either the allies or the central powers? I just got curious since I never heard about any Scandinavian involvement in The Great War. Keep up the awesome work!

    • @patriongodoffinancialgainf6301
      @patriongodoffinancialgainf6301 8 років тому

      +The Great War If you won't mind,I had a idea I want to tell. As all wars have aftermaths you could cover the aftermaths of WW1 in a more relaxed frequency... Like,the forming of the kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovakians AKA Yugoslavia! Frances hungry days,and maybe Hitler's rise to power. Just a idea...

  • @karolsbalickis7801
    @karolsbalickis7801 8 років тому +3

    +TheGreatWar love your videos.
    Hello from Latvia

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +Karols Balickis Hello from Berlin

  • @lachd2261
    @lachd2261 8 років тому

    Excellent episode - we don't often hear about these theatres of the war.

  • @Rickinsf
    @Rickinsf 8 років тому +1

    do a "who did what" on Gen. Charles Mangin. He established his military career in French Africa and went on to become a "hero" of Verdun.

  • @uwezo86
    @uwezo86 3 роки тому

    Vita vya maji maji .. i remember reading about this

  • @Konrad-ur1jd
    @Konrad-ur1jd 8 років тому +1

    German East Africa, had a great KD.

  • @fpost337
    @fpost337 8 років тому +2

    I have seen now all 188 Episodes of the Great War in less than a month. I think I now do have an Indy poisoning. I wonder how the detox will be?

  • @williamlydon2554
    @williamlydon2554 8 років тому +6

    In 2017, can we get an Episode on George S.Patton? Similar to the one on Erwin Rommel perhaps.

  • @DylanDude
    @DylanDude 8 років тому +9

    Poor Germany. Losing their entire empire for helping out an ally as promised seems a tad harsh.

    • @dubsy1026
      @dubsy1026 8 років тому

      A. it's what it's like B. they weren't exactly doing good with it C. there ally was not really very reliable, competent, sensible, or morally right D. they can thank Kaiser Whilhelm II for their terrible foreign policy

  • @killerlion241
    @killerlion241 8 років тому +1

    Really nice to also learn something about the war outside of Europe, thumps up :)

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +1

      +Legasteniker It was a world war after all

  • @danielw832
    @danielw832 8 років тому +1

    totally addicted. can't wait for the next.

  • @ab8588
    @ab8588 4 роки тому

    This chap has an excellent page. Congrats on your work and effort.

  • @nemtweakelek
    @nemtweakelek 8 років тому +5

    could you do a video about the multi national troops of austria-hungary? It's a very interesting topic

    • @BonJoviworstbandever
      @BonJoviworstbandever 8 років тому +1

      +Magyar Dénes it is. in the army museum in vienna for example, ww1 army manuals are on display, along with at least 6 translations of the same manual. coordination in the army back then must have been an absolute nightmare!

    • @jadger1871
      @jadger1871 8 років тому

      +BonJoviworstbandever As they stated on one of their early war videos, Austro-Hungarian commanders had to know the language of their regiment as well as German or Hungarian, depending which of the two Austro-hungarian armies they were in.
      All commands were in German so recruits had to learn at least those specific words. It was not unlike the modern Canadian army's standards on drill, where weapon drill is in French and the rest of the drill commands are in English, unless a unit has been designated to be unilingual.

  • @harryrcarmichael
    @harryrcarmichael 4 роки тому

    the more light we shine in the corners of our past - the brighter the future.

  • @LinusLinothorax
    @LinusLinothorax 8 років тому

    I would like to hear more about the African theatre. What many people dont know is that the Scramble for Africa wasnt finished until the mid of WW1, when France and GB annexed several petty Sultanates in modern Central Africa and Sudan, with the most prominent beeing Dar Fur. Would be really cool to hear more about that, since its a very exotic and unknown topic.

  • @Saphrax89
    @Saphrax89 8 років тому +1

    Do one episode on the German colonies of Oceania. That should be interesting.

  • @vladleninnussr
    @vladleninnussr 8 років тому

    excellent video! keep up the good work I love learning about ww1 and pre-ww1!

  • @jeremymine6722
    @jeremymine6722 8 років тому +17

    Not hard to be better than Belgian colonialism.

  • @ironboley
    @ironboley 6 років тому

    Thank you, Thank You, and Thank You. People don't understand how many Africans fought in World War 1 especially on the French and British side. Africa was a major battle ground.

  • @wistonlawsons4443
    @wistonlawsons4443 7 років тому +5

    do u have any information about Portuguese forces and battles in East and West Africa?

  • @dudleydickerson3201
    @dudleydickerson3201 8 років тому +7

    Man, Peters was freaky and nasty...running around in his sock garters, smoking a pipe. A true stereotype. Wow.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому +2

      +Dudley Dickerson Yeah, he kind of was.

  • @bhmch39
    @bhmch39 3 роки тому

    I love this channel

  • @Pikkabuu
    @Pikkabuu 8 років тому

    What? No comments on the Battle of Tanga? Come on. That battle was so full of slapstick that you should have mentioned it.

  • @bigboizism
    @bigboizism 8 років тому +3

    Make a video about Japan and eventually one about the Allied intervention in Soviet Russia

  • @BountyFlamor
    @BountyFlamor 8 років тому +8

    What are his sources for the casualty figures pre-WW1?

    • @BountyFlamor
      @BountyFlamor 8 років тому +5

      Strgar Strgar
      I have no issue with high casualty numbers. I just want reliable sources if such a high claim is made.

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 7 років тому

    von Lettow survived until after WWII and...was guest of honour of Afrika Korps vets meetings in Western Germany in 50ties and 60ties

  • @boomer6611
    @boomer6611 6 років тому

    Man you do great work Indy!

  • @josephnardone1250
    @josephnardone1250 8 років тому

    Read a book many years ago called, "The Battle for the Bundu," if I am spelling it correctly. It was about the war in German East Africa. Very interesting book.

  • @pobblebonk4896
    @pobblebonk4896 7 років тому +1

    This video is awesome, could I use it as a source for my history assignment :)

  • @markusschwarz6600
    @markusschwarz6600 7 років тому +2

    First recorded genocide ? Everybody is always talking about the bad germans and how evil they are . What about the gnocide in congo organised by the belgians? 10 million casualties or more . Nobody is ever talking about the millions of indians britain starved to death by taking all possible ressources to feed the armies ..... or the americans during the civil war who starved american pow's to death.....

  • @2Dante
    @2Dante 6 років тому

    Greetings from Brazil. #Tanzania!

  • @timothythomas7445
    @timothythomas7445 6 років тому

    Thank you for the video. Strange how this side of history never got taught at any school I attended. What was the 1st World War really about. The riches of Africa.

  • @steve1978ger
    @steve1978ger 8 років тому

    Looking at the mousy guy at 0:48 and then in his colonial garb at 1:06 says it all.

    • @18Unity48
      @18Unity48 8 років тому +1

      +steve1978ger He most definitely had to compensate for something.

  • @JoniFili
    @JoniFili 8 років тому

    A "Fun fact" regarding the South African forces, Germany and Portugal
    and the war in Africa. Portugal sold to South Africa 25.000 German Mauser
    rifles (the Portuguese version Mauser-Vergueiro), to equip its forces in the war against German forces. So most likely, at some point during the fight boat side were using the same rifle.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser%E2%80%93Vergueiro

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +Joni Fili Shows who always profits in a war.

  • @Zourkoskey
    @Zourkoskey 8 років тому

    Are you going to do one on German southwest Africa? That would be really interesting, I know nothing about its role in WW1. Awesome special!!!

  • @_Jaspy_
    @_Jaspy_ 8 років тому

    This was intresting thank you!

  • @darrellenglish6283
    @darrellenglish6283 6 років тому

    The early SA/SS Brown uniform were War Surplus uniform that were mentioned to be sent to the German Soldiers in Africa during the War ..

  • @YrNameHr
    @YrNameHr 8 років тому

    thanx Indie and crew. I have a request/suggestion for a future special about trench art, the often wonderfully intricate and often beautifully simple things that men created while they hunkered down waiting for the next action. Brass shell casings by the millions were all about, also leather and wood and steel, these things were turned into lighters, ashtrays, boxes, chess pieces, tools, utensils and weapons of all descriptions. I have a wonderful knife made out of steel and a fifty caliber shell casing (alas no idea if WWI or II). Maybe a good insight into the humanity of the men who struggled and waited and struggled some more...

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +Andy Puritz Hi Andy, thanks for the suggestion. We actually thought about the topic for a while already. The problem is that our archives don't provide much examples, so we would need to gather and license most of them which could exceed our budget.

  • @milan190291
    @milan190291 8 років тому

    Great episode as always, if you guys ever want to do a special episode about the Netherlands during WW1 i could help with translating some important info from Dutch

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +Milan Van der Graaf Netherlands episode is already shot and will air soonish.

  • @hardeehat4972
    @hardeehat4972 8 років тому

    Being a nut about the the first world war, no doubt you have seen the 1951 movie "The African Queen" and perhaps read the book (which is a lot more realistic and factual) Even though it is a fiction novel and book, the German steamer and the lake are actually based on the battle of lake Tanginisa (probably butchered the name). In the book they have the two motorboat that do battle with the German ship. Do you think you could do an episode or a brief mention of this battle? I'm sure any classic movie fans would like to hear a little insight on some of what the movie was based on. Great channel!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  8 років тому

      +hardee hat The lake and river campaigns in Africa are really crazy too.

  • @edoardobartolini3098
    @edoardobartolini3098 8 років тому

    I read of an ethiopian askar that during the '90s italian mission in Ethiopia wanted to re-join the army.
    Loyal untill the end I suppose.

    • @jadger1871
      @jadger1871 8 років тому

      +Edoardo Bartolini Seeing as how a WWI askari would have been almost 100 years old in the 1990s I very highly doubt that.

    • @Benman2785
      @Benman2785 8 років тому

      last askari died in 1990

    • @edoardobartolini3098
      @edoardobartolini3098 8 років тому

      Right, it's what I meant.