How Much Ice is "SAFE" for Fishing??? - Ice Pros Q&A ⚡
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2018
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NO ICE IS SAFE ICE! But if you're looking to get out on early/first ice this year, here's a few recommendations for ice thickness and quality.
Dave Genz - www.davegenz.com/
Brian Brosdahl - brosguideservice.com/
Jason Mitchell - jasonmitchelloutdoors.com/
Tony Roach - www.roachsguideservice.com/
Joel Nelson - www.joelnelsonoutdoors.com/
Brad Hawthorne - www.millelacslakeguide.com/
Tom Neustrom - www.mnfishingconnections.com/
Gary Parsons - thenextbite.tv/
Keith Kavajecz - thenextbite.tv/
Eric Haataja - www.wibigfish.com/
Tony Boshold - www.tony-boshold.com/ice-guide/
Steve Pennaz - www.lakecommandos.com/
Chip Leer - www.fishingthewildside.net/ - Спорт
That must be nice living in Wisconsin where you know the ice will be 10+ inches every year. Here in southern Michigan if you're not willing to fish on 3 inches your not going to be able to spend much time on the ice.
Charles Poling ha ha you can expect at least 24+ inches every year in mn
Connor Pennings Outdoors
I’m in central Michigan (Clare Co.) and I don’t think I’ve been on 24” of ice in about a decade. The norm has been around 18”. This year, I’ve only been on 8”. Going out in a few hours. I don’t see us getting more than a foot this year.
@@ryanwilson5936 Hey dude you’re around my deer hunting area! I’ve only fished long lake in Clare county but I know theirs some better ice than down here in Howell.
Charles sir. That is somewhat correct,Yet at the same time not correct. You just have to know the right lake/lakes to go to.
@@ryanwilson5936;You must not fish Houghton as last year (2019/2020 it had it.
I net through the ice and feeling comfortable at an inch and three quarters to get things set up....
3 in black ice good to go
The old guy knows what’s up.
I started fishing the last 10 years on ice. Where I live here in Oregon it's kind of tricky alright we can have l 2in of clear and 5in of White Ice I feel safe walking on it. Walked out on the lake after it snowed about 3 ft and drilled my hole the water come up through the hole the weight of the snow was sinking the ice not good. I know I don't have enough experience so I lean towards the the cautious. side.
Yes, it's better to be very cautious.
i just hammered the walleye yesterday on 4 inches. got super windy and warm started to crack when walking, 1/4 mile from shore. we were getting sketched but waited till after dark when it got nice and cold befor walking back. just got to be constantly aware of changing conditions even on 4"
I say that is true no matter the thickness.
I've been on 2 inches this November in northern Illinois. We haven't had 4 inches all season
I've gone by 4" and spud bar until it's consistently over 6", mid season I can expect needing at least one extension. Only gone through once and that's because there was one patch where hot water was being pumped under the ice. Lake Winnipeg and Lake Manitoba I wait for full lockup.
3 in. Of clear ice
Check the ice know the lake. I went out on a lake this year in northern Minnesota most of the lake was 16-18” and on the other end of the lake the ice was 3”. Something to think about also.
I remember going ice fishing many times with my Dad when I was a kid on different lakes in Michigan. Usually he liked fishing on Lake Saint Clair. Sometimes we'd walk out to spots where he hand a Shanty set up and other times we drove out on the ice in his car. You could always hear the loud pitch sounds of the ice cracking around you! Mostly we caught perch and threw them on the ice throughout the day. I was always amazed that once we got home he would thaw them out in the bathtub & half would start swimming around again. He'd tell me stories of how the ice would sometimes break off in large pieces on Lake St. Clair and people would be drifting away and not even realize it. It seemed that the Coast Guard were always busy rescuing someone out there. As I got a little older around 15, I still went out with my Dad because he'd let me drive his car back home after the fishing trip. So I'd freeze out there all day just to look forward in driving the car home but also enjoyed the time with my Dad. So glad he knew how to keep us safe out there!
I fished near open water one year. We were back away from it on 8 inches. About an hour later the water was much closer and our ice was getting thinner fast. We left and the next morning it was open. This was mid winter.
6:38 the guy looks like Jaromir Jagr from the NHL! Lol
I'll take my 2500# sxs on 6-7" of good clear ice. It holds up. Certainly nerve wracking the first ride but I agree with Jason Mitchell it's plenty. 7 1/2" will hold a car, 6" will hold a sxs.
guy doesnt walk 4 miles checking ice that would take all day
LMAO your comment made me laugh pretty hard
My first ice fishing trip (approximately 1973, I was 5) was to the Mississippi River with my dad, we drove out to where we fished in our Volkswagon Beetle we left at dark and I think my dad got turned around and we ended up with open water in the headlights, I was too young to be as scared as I should of been. About eight years later I remember walking on spring lake with my dad (near prior lake, MN) the ice was thin, we were walking around on the lake and I noticed a hole that was drilled about five feet from us and water was gushing out of it, just a couple of harrowing experiences I had with my dad, it's a wonder I survived to adulthood. Lol Contrast that to going to Lake of the woods in April about 5 years ago, we were not allowed to drive on the ice by the resort we were staying at. There were spots that we drilled that we could not get through the ice (I had an extension on, it was 62" total drilling capacity!) it was 5' pretty much everywhere. We probably could have drove a freight train over it. As I have gotten older and wiser I prefer at least 6" of solid ice to walk on 10" for atv/snowmobile and 14" for a vehicle. Stay safe everybody!
And the thing with a spud bar is everyone hits harder. So what is considered a "whack"? All your might? Weight of the spud and slight force from you? Its sure varies alot as a ice safety test if its based on strength. Food for thought. Lol. And has anyone ever ran into lake ice affected by underwater uprising springs in a lake? I'm told that causes weak ice in spots on a few lakes by me thru the years and have ran into some augering experiences that were pretty shocking..12" to 2" 30yrds apart for example on a real small lake/pond type..not much snow pack so I couldn't blame that. I was told a spring caused it so I've avoided it ever since. No geese either. Lol.
Craig sir,You are right as any current or spring can affect the ice thickness.
We just had a lady die going through in an ice boat on my local lake. I was out there just before it happened fishing on foot but unfortunately they went on the wrong side of the highway (main lake side) which would have only been a couple days frozen at max. Not sure what she was thinking but that weighs to much to be out on early ice with. It happened in Guelph lake if anyone wants to look it up. Glad I didn't go through but I checked about every 30-50 ft and every time the ice looked a bit shitty. Even with a manual auger it's worth punching 50 holes in a day if it means knowing you have a safe path there and back. 3" of really good crystal clear ice for me and 4" if it's anything else.
Good start to a conversation about safety but there is one MAJOR factor left out and that's the difference between early and late ice. Yes 3" of fresh clear ice is plenty to hold a grown man but I've seen guys go through 14" of honeycomb and have personally got wet trying to get up on a wall that had a strip of white ice about 20" along it. Shit gets dicey fast the last week or two and if you have weeds or anything else in the ice that can get warmed by the sun it will rot out very quick.
4" is my bare minimum.
Just remember do not trust the ice ,because some one is already out there before you. have a good and safe ice fishing season everyone.
Nice advise in a basic form Ms. Teresa.
Had a guy in jeans and sweater follow my trail that I spudded out and it was only on max 2 inches lmao. There was about 400 meters of super sketchy ice before it got good again where I was fishing but buddy had no clue he just followed me carelessly
I mean I could hypothetically walk on an inch and a half at 120 lbs, doesn't mean I will. Its like today first time I went by my self. My dad went to work and told me to do one thing. Don't fuck up the auger blades. I still checked the ice. Haven't been out there and seen only two others so its better to be safe then sorry.( there was probably 6 inches and tons of snowmobile tracks
What about Rivers? Same rule or do you want more ice?
I'm thinking the hardest part for Nick was when to air this episode.....
That was probably the 2nd hardest part. The HARDEST was finding the time to finally get this video edited.
4 in walk 7 snowmobile 12 my car ...
God is good
3"...I'm 200lbs
ice is for cocktails
Hey Nick, next Q&A can you do
Potty time? How do pros and clients relieve them self's #1 &2.. lol sounds gross but I think alot of people are wondering.....
You go first...What's your strategy?
The lord gave you a little fire hose to do #1 basically anywhere you can get your fly down....for #2, you are either walking to shore, holding it, or making some incredible friends who will let your turds sit in a bag near them all day. Good luck 👍
stick to 4 inches of ice at a minimum and you'll find yourself fishing more than swimming
Far too many factors to tell anyone that a set amount of ice is safe. I've been out on 2.75-3.5 of new black ice with no problem, and I've seen 8-12 inches that was getting sketchy. Snow and rain cover, black vs grey ice, should all be taken into consideration. Also, I read that temperatures over 32 for more than 24 hours can significantly weaken ice. I went through once in my life, on Lake Erie Presque Isle Bay. Got up on a Friday, ice was 8-10 inches, but the entire weekend was 30 mph winds, and 45-60 degree temperatures. Sure enough, was coming off on Sunday, hit a spongy spot, and went through. Luckily, the top of the ice was crusty and soft, so I could do a half push up and get out. Now, I am much more careful, ALWAYS have picks on, and never go out alone.
As well as check ice often on the way out & coming in. Although I was out 1 year with temp in the 50s for a high (late ice) was spring april one year & was all good.
@@roniler7960 Precisely, spudding your way out is key
@@JohnPascavageFishing That is so true,Even without a spud,Just taking time,checking/looking,being constantly aware or surroundings & ice/ice condition can go a long way.
Genz is the only one being honest here.
Anyone with alot of experience knows that 2" of black ice holds TOO MUCH MASS for it to be displaced by an obese human body. Its not physically possible to fall through 2" of actively freezing ice.
Ask some of the guys that have used wheelers on 2"
i like 8 inches at least
That’s plenty what u need
No ice is safe ice. But me and my friends have been some of the first people out on lake Simcoe every year. With perfect conditions and all the safety gear needed we have made it out 3km on 3/4 to an 1 1/2 of completely black ice. Steelhead fishing i have tried to break through 3/4 inch of black ice to open a hole and I managed to do it but it was difficult and I weigh 230 pounds. That being said you feel stupid the hole time your on thin ice
I always here no ice is safe and I do hold this to be true BUT on smaller lakes when they reach 2' of ice in every and all places and it becomes impossible to get into the water, it would then be more dangerous for walkers on the walking paths on the shoreline for the possibility of them tripping over a tree root lol
@@ripptydevibes2581 thise year was stupid sketchy i walked out maybe 2km or allmost a mile and was basically finding the thickest path with my spud. There was 3 to 4 inches some spots and 3/4" in others. They bay I was on was frozen from end to end but the bay is as big as most lakes. I'm young and fit enough to get out once i go through and I wear a striker ice predator suit so I'm not sinking and I make a habit out of allways having my spikes around my neck . I'm only afraid of getting really cold not dying out there
I’m a fan of 4 inches In a big Dude
Stay off the ice on windy days.
It depends on the ice or what part of the season as well as lake/body of water your on. If ice is good then wind doesn't matter.
Even when the ice is good on windy days I have seen guys lose there shelters because of lack of knowledge and windy conditions now add a snow storm on top of that. I have seen a pop up shelter blow about 1 km away from where he was set up. Also saw a wooden shelter blow about a hundred yards before it flipped over and I am glad no one was in it. There is no safe conditions but be mind full and experienced goes along way in being safe out there. Every environment is different but what I do not like to see is guys on the ice while there is still open water. 4 inches of pure blue ice and more and I feel good.
@@tommycodfish Yes agree the wind can be challenging,Just have to fasten/tie down shanty's when windy. I thought you said that as for ice condition at 1st.
@@roniler7960 yes I understand I am a type of guy that looks at a lot of situations that could go wrong and try to avoid them but be ready for the worse but for the most part I feel safe out on the ice when I do go out. Good luck fishing this winter.
@@tommycodfish Thanks & Good luck thos hardwater season,stay safe.
Great video! Anyone who hits thumbs down should drown.