Joining the US military with psychiatric history. Part 1: Before MEPS

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  • @blahbang7115
    @blahbang7115 Рік тому +6

    I just went to MEPS last Thursday for the Navy. I'm waiting on the decisions made for my attempt of suicide in 2008, PTSD and bipolar. Don't know what I should expect next. I had already spent 8 months on submitting medical records for my muscle tears in my right hip and some related nervous discomforts, and luckily I had got them all cleared before going to MEPS.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +1

      Hey man, 15 years ago is pretty easy to argue. I wish you the best regardless and I'm glad you're looking to better yourself.

    • @Lopezgirl25
      @Lopezgirl25 9 місяців тому +2

      Were you able to join? Can you give us an update, please

    • @bandzchaser
      @bandzchaser 2 дні тому

      Same situation..

  • @alisonboydston1929
    @alisonboydston1929 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you so much for this video and the next one. I appreciate it a lot. A couple, almost 3 years back I went through a tough time. Everyone I’ve talked to said it would be hard for me to join. I found an AirForce recruiter that was willing to push so long as I was willing to keep with it. He told me he wouldn’t give up as long as I didn’t. Thank you for sharing your story because it gives me steps I can do to help my process along. Like the psychic clearance letter! Thank you so so much!!

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +4

      Good luck killer!! Prove the doubters wrong. Fight for it until you get an absolute no or an enlistment out of it.

    • @alisonboydston1929
      @alisonboydston1929 2 роки тому +2

      @@james.clydesdale Will do! Could I ask what telehealth company you used? Thank you!

    • @griffinmckinney7734
      @griffinmckinney7734 7 місяців тому

      how’d it go?

    • @bidodj2966
      @bidodj2966 7 місяців тому

      Hello Alison. Similar situation. Can I send you a DM, please? Thank you.

    • @sora.valentine
      @sora.valentine 6 місяців тому

      do you have their info?

  • @GothamiteYT
    @GothamiteYT 6 місяців тому +1

    Been on Zoloft roughly a year. I interviewed with someone adjacent to the OSO (he was out that day) and I didn’t let her know preemptively that I would need a waiver.
    I wanna try for OCS by next September but USMC wants me off Zoloft for at least 14-months.
    Guess I should get a waiver if my pharmacy records can be pulled. Never received in patient care but I’ve had psychiatric care.
    Thanks for putting up this video

  • @BANANABANJ0
    @BANANABANJ0 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you for this! I initially was going through the enlistment process with army and they told me to lie about my mental health history so I passed through MEPS and was fully cleared (I felt guilty because the other two girls with me that day had to get waivers). I ended up backing out of the process with army because I felt anxious about not being upfront about it. I recently started the process again with Air Force and my recruiter has been so helpful with helping me get all the paperwork for my anxiety, major depression & ptsd diagnosis I had when I was 15-17 (now 21). I didn’t know they were able to pull pharmaceutical records so I’m shocked my meds didn’t show up! Thankfully, I got cleared at 17 and my therapist said I no longer needed therapy or med, but my recruiter is hopeful since it was a situational cause due to me being in foster care. Thank you so much for this video! I haven’t found a video this in depth and I’ve been a bit nervous because I already got cleared through MEPS with army, which my recruiter said will stay current aside from some specific tests for Air Force, so hopefully this doesn’t backfire 🤞

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      Wishing you the best Haley. The good news is MEPS knows recruiters like to get people to lie. The other good news is that they understand this & seem to appreciate honesty. Best of luck to you in the Air Force; your recruiter is your connection to the enlistment process, so it's their best interest to make it work.

    • @chantellea4249
      @chantellea4249 2 роки тому +2

      wait did those two girls who got caught lie or did they tell them and that’s why they needed a waiver?

    • @chantellea4249
      @chantellea4249 2 роки тому +1

      i’m in the same situation. i’m not going to tel meps anything so i hope i pass. i had severe depression, ptsd, and adjustment disorder. i was at therapy but didn’t take any meds. i was admitting into a mental hospital so i hope nothing shows up. oh and i was in foster care

    • @BANANABANJ0
      @BANANABANJ0 2 роки тому +1

      @@chantellea4249 one lady was a few pounds over weight so she was disqualified and the other girl had a large scar on her arm so she was disqualified and had to get a psych evaluation. If you never took meds and if you went to therapy for less than 12 months, I would disclose it with your recruiter because it wouldn’t necessarily disqualify you. You could get pre cleared like James did and it would make the process a lot smoother than lying and it being found. My recruiter is sending me to meps in the morning actually to swear in, he told me not to mention anything since I was previously cleared last year but I’m still a bit anxious they’ll find out. I guess we will see and I’ll update you about it tomorrow! If you have anymore questions just lmk and we can talk privately

    • @chantellea4249
      @chantellea4249 2 роки тому

      @@BANANABANJ0 alright thank you!

  • @jbrd7859
    @jbrd7859 Рік тому +4

    I’ve really wanted to join the military for a few years but I have Tourette’s syndrome. I’m not medicated and the symptoms are mostly unnoticeable unless I’m really stressed.
    I had a Coast Guard recruiter tell me over the phone that I would not be able to join his branch. My second choice is the Marine Corps, and my fingers are crossed that they’ll determine that my Tourette’s is not an issue. 🤞
    Thanks for the video

  • @wte_lifts_417
    @wte_lifts_417 Рік тому +19

    Currently expecting to hear back Friday on my Air Force waiver for an OCD/Anxiety diagnosis and medication from about age 9-17. I’m currently 25 and believe it was a misdiagnosis since I’ve been off meds and haven’t seen a doctor for it since 17 but here I am jumping through the hoops and submitting paperwork. My recruiter seems confident. All I’ll say is Genesis is a bitch.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +5

      I think you'll be okay man. Keep your head up!

    • @wte_lifts_417
      @wte_lifts_417 Рік тому +8

      @@james.clydesdale if anyone else in our situation reads this, there is hope! Everything went good at MEPS. To my surprise the only thing Genesis really caught was my OCD/anxiety history. Passed everything else and went through the waiver process for the mental health history. Currently waiting on dates from MEPS for my consultation which should be the last step before acquiring the golden ticket (medical waiver).

    • @amari9657
      @amari9657 Рік тому

      @@wte_lifts_417hope u get it gang

    • @gabetower6165
      @gabetower6165 10 місяців тому

      @wte_lifts_417 how did you get on? I have mild OCD and was looking at the national guard

    • @Slickyslothh
      @Slickyslothh 5 місяців тому

      Did you ever get cleared?

  • @Vampybattie
    @Vampybattie Рік тому +5

    I left a comment 6 months ago and I just went to meps today and they didn't see anything at all like nothing came up on my mhs genises so it really depends on the person also if you're in Tricare if you're not you won't see anything.

    • @keytograve
      @keytograve Рік тому

      did you disclose your past to your recruiter?

    • @jimiboi87
      @jimiboi87 Рік тому

      Congrats! Did you have anything that could potentially be disqualifying to worry about? I’m still filling out the application but meps is by far what I’m most worried about.

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie Рік тому +1

      @@keytograve nope didn't tell them anything but they do send prescreen so if anything comes up they would know, my mhs genesis was clean sheet

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie Рік тому

      ​@@jimiboi87 yeah I was in hospital after unaliveing attempt in 2017 and ( yt won't let me write that word) was voluntarily in psych ward also was given sleep meds for 2018 and I was given steroid cream for nape of neck eczema, but if you have scar they might look deeper

    • @jimiboi87
      @jimiboi87 Рік тому

      @@Vampybattie Wow that's crazy that none of that stuff came up for you. Maybe the system is not yet as thorough as it's being made out to be on YT. That actually makes me feel a lot better. Thanks for responding.

  • @MemorieMcKinney
    @MemorieMcKinney Рік тому +3

    I’m wanting to do Air Force ROTC this fall and I’m really scared that once I go through the medical history process they will deny me… I have BPD, depression and PTSD diagnosis but I feel like joining the Air Force and doing something worthwhile and meaningful to me would make me so happy for once. It’s the hope I’m holding onto

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +2

      You can be a cadet just fine, joining the Air Force will be a different struggle. You need to get your diagnoses classified as in remission as soon as possible, if you are truly in remission.

    • @theuglybarnacle9410
      @theuglybarnacle9410 Рік тому +1

      Hey if it helps at all I’ve been trying to join the marines for a year now, I was diagnosed with Major depressive disorder and general anxiety disorder. They will ask for therapy documents, prescription history, and a tons of stuff about how you deal with it all. You’ll get in. It took me a year to get a consult

    • @theuglybarnacle9410
      @theuglybarnacle9410 Рік тому

      Also I ended up getting cleared from it all that’ll help 1000%

    • @StephanieLink-fr5rj
      @StephanieLink-fr5rj Рік тому

      Same I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression which is some bs, I don't really have that.... When I was in the air force I was appointed to speak with someone about my family issue and got reported for anxiety and depression.... But now I'm trying to join the army.... I told the army exactly what happen gave them my entire discharge packet and they have like 5 people working on it to get me back into service.... I really hope I get back in .... I loved the air force, but the way they push their soldiers out is a shame..... You literally can't talk about anything in there without fear of being discharged

    • @StephanieLink-fr5rj
      @StephanieLink-fr5rj Рік тому

      ​@@theuglybarnacle9410 you get cleared with a phsyctriatic clearance letter? Prescreen? Did MEPS ask you about you mental health diagnosis and did they give you any issues?

  • @jeskerjames3260
    @jeskerjames3260 Рік тому +4

    I have been taking care of my grandmother who was sick with cancer and on hospice. I had to take some anxiety medication to deal with it because she was in really bad shape. It has been a year since she passed and I wanna join the military (Thinking Navy/Coast Guard or Air Force/Space Force). My anxiety was very situational. If I can convince my doctor to take me off the medicine, do I have a shot?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +2

      Yes, but you'd need to discuss this with the branch of your choice's recruiter. You need to get off your medication immediately, and you'll likely have to be in remission for months at a minimum before even the Navy will process a waiver for you.
      You're typically completely clear from worries about medication so long as you're verifiably in remission for 2+ years.

    • @jeskerjames3260
      @jeskerjames3260 Рік тому +2

      @@james.clydesdale That’s fine. I’ve been working on losing weight so it will be a few months before I’m ready to speak with a recruiter anyway

  • @XXstaticxHeroXX
    @XXstaticxHeroXX Рік тому +4

    About 5ish years ago I saw a psychiatrist a few times who - although I wasn't formally diagnosed with anything - he prescribed me medications for depression, anxiety, possible Bipolar - so anti-anxiety, depression, and anti-psychotics (for sleep), I took them less than a month, and then never went back. I never disclosed this because it was so long ago and I felt it wasn't important. Now i'm afraid it will come up - and although I didn't mean to lie to my recruiter I feel bad about leaving this out - should I just come clean about this? I'm afraid this will be instantly disqualifying. My recruiters also clearly does not care about me or his job.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      A lot of what Marine recruiters care about is being 100% about being a Marine. If you have concerns, address them. It is their job to address your concerns, and if you're afraid of a man with some rank on him before you even join, you'll melt at the sight of the world renowned Drill Instructor. Tell your recruiter, who is honestly the nicest an NCO will probably be to you in your Marine career, that you're worried about this. You can submit packages that correct things like this.
      Have you been to MEPS yet? Where are you in the process?

    • @dandan2902
      @dandan2902 Рік тому

      Be honest with them. Meps will respect it more than if you lie. I did that too and got denied
      Be upfront completely and address everything. After I did that, meps requested me to have a psyc eval

  • @Vampybattie
    @Vampybattie 2 роки тому +5

    I was in impatient care for 4 days after suicide attempt this was back in 2017 and was diagnosed with bipolar 1 (no mania) and I had outpatient care for 1 month just few times in couple of week but they only let me take pills for one week and told me I was fine I never had refills. I never had to take any meds again never had any bipolar type of things again . I know suicide attempt is dq so basically I’m screwed.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +3

      You never know unless you try, that's the mentality to roll with in these scenarios. I suggest you reach out and see what your options are, service is a broad career path.

    • @elfinhaddock1775
      @elfinhaddock1775 2 роки тому

      We have very similar situations. Have you talked to a recruiter yet? If so I’m curious what you were told if it’s not too personal!

    • @sittingsaint
      @sittingsaint 2 роки тому +1

      @@elfinhaddock1775 similar situation, and multiple recruiters have told me i have a good chance of getting in. I filled out the initial paperwork and take my asvab in nov!

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie 2 роки тому

      @@sittingsaint hey how did it go ?? And what was the process like were you able to enlist ?

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie Рік тому +1

      They didn’t see anything for me

  • @JadaArmstead
    @JadaArmstead 2 роки тому +3

    omg thank you so much for this!! i couldn’t find anything helpful anywhere!😭

  • @hyrix4859
    @hyrix4859 2 роки тому +3

    dudeI want to join the corps also and man I took an anxiety med for like 2 months and never took it again it was a little over a year ago I dont take it anymore man Im goona be so upset if I get disqualified and cant join gonna be so pissed and upset

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      Honestly I doubt you would be barred for good. Worst case scenario you'd probably have to wait til the 2 year mark. Don't give up, I had much more going on and I just graduated today.

    • @hyrix4859
      @hyrix4859 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale awesome man hell yea congratulations

    • @hyrix4859
      @hyrix4859 Рік тому

      @bdben7 had to get a wavier but I didnt end up passing the asvab

  • @Nobody-so9sh
    @Nobody-so9sh Рік тому +3

    Thanks this was very helpful

  • @johnquaker7035
    @johnquaker7035 2 місяці тому

    I need a waiver for adhd, bakeract Shellfish allergy, and old sh. Im waiting to see if i can get a waiver

  • @nikolausroark7257
    @nikolausroark7257 6 місяців тому

    Thank you bro I’ve been trying to figure this out too

  • @omaliaa2650
    @omaliaa2650 3 дні тому

    I requested my medical history and it was denied I never got it 😭

  • @lilspeedy4371
    @lilspeedy4371 Рік тому +3

    Back In 2017 i saw a psychiatrist n prescribed me anti depressant n I went to Meps in august of last year for army I didn’t tell my recruiter cuz I honestly forgot it’s been a long road now I’m wanting to go marines but before I talk to a marines recruiter should I get my psychiatrist records first before I see a marine recruiter what are my chances of getting in?

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie Рік тому

      No don’t! Unless you were in tricare they won’t see it

  • @lemonke8882
    @lemonke8882 2 роки тому +8

    Hey man, not sure if you're still answering questions but I have been going to counseling for about 4 years now. I am 20. My counselor has it marked as "treatment for depression". I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was 12, haven't been on meds since 15. I went to the doctor and had him write that I no longer suffer from depression or anxiety. Do you think I'll stand a chance at getting in? Going for Army

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely worth a try. Counseling shows a documentation of your history which is always helpful. Army recruiters usually go through the hoops to do it so it's worth the effort.
      Apologies for the late reply, I'm at MCT and they take our phones for a month. I grad next week and I'll be able to answer questions consistently from that point on. Give it a go! Good luck.

  • @konger6069
    @konger6069 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks for making this video. im 19 now and i had "suicide attempt"(it was so stupid i wouldnt even call it an actual attempt) when i was 13/14 and went to therapy for less than a year i believe. But, i was never officially noted as no longer being depressed or anything by my Doctor, I did get better but i just stopped seeing the doctor, the prescriptions ran out and i never went back to get them refilled. Do you think I will have to see a psychiatrist and be "examined" before i am able to join?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      Hey, thanks for writing. Sorry for the late reply, I just graduated today! I think your situation is definitely worth a shot. They were able to essentially write my scenario off as a childish bout of foolishness and I was 16 at the time. Talk to a recruiter and go through the motions!

  • @CaptainAmericaSquad
    @CaptainAmericaSquad Рік тому +1

    Hey I'm goi g back to MEPs for a psych eval. I'm going army national guard for tank crewman, and need a wavier for passed mental health problems like ptsd, anxiety, and depression. I told the MEPs doctor straight up and got really nervous. Hope it goes well my date for this is April 13th wish me luck.

    • @CaptainAmericaSquad
      @CaptainAmericaSquad Рік тому

      I've been off meds for 5 years.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +3

      The fact that you're getting a consult is a very good sign. Just don't act nervous, don't say stupid things, and things will likely pan out for you.

    • @CaptainAmericaSquad
      @CaptainAmericaSquad Рік тому

      @@james.clydesdale Thank you for this info. I was looking for this kind of info and couldn't find it. Glad you make these videos. Have an excellent year

    • @CaptainAmericaSquad
      @CaptainAmericaSquad Рік тому

      ​@@james.clydesdale passed my consult. Waiting to hear from the Pentagon.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +1

      @@CaptainAmericaSquad It goes up to the Surgeon General not the Pentagon haha. But just keep up with it. Good stuff.

  • @xDeano543
    @xDeano543 Місяць тому

    Ive been to about 13 differnt drug rehabs and psycwards since 16 to 22 for psychosis and drugs ive also been to jail for 2 months an charged with serving out of a lane an fleeing the scene of damaged property. Would i have a chance of joining any part of the military

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Місяць тому

      @@xDeano543 That would be a very hard sell for most branches. Marines would probably disqualify you based on misconduct, same with Air Force, but I could see an Army or Navy recruiter at least giving your case a try. Drug history is a very difficult thing to navigate. Don't let anyone but MEPS tell you a definitive no.

    • @xDeano543
      @xDeano543 Місяць тому

      I haven't been on meds in months im 23 now

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Місяць тому

      @ Almost every branch requires a 2 year period of absolute remission.

    • @xDeano543
      @xDeano543 Місяць тому +1

      @james.clydesdale i think the psychosis comes from drug use none of the doctors really know but I mean it's all on record so if I just stay clean for 2 years an the psychosis dosnt happen again comes up I think I should be fine but yeah I want to join navy but if anything the army maybe idk might go to a recruiter soon an see what my chances are

  • @Souknut
    @Souknut Рік тому +1

    Currently going thru it rn for false self harm call by meps dr hopefully all goes well 🙏🏽

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +3

      Will likely lead into a psych consult. Be wise and choose your words carefully before you speak. I wish you the best.

    • @Souknut
      @Souknut Рік тому

      @@james.clydesdale just did that yesterday guy said he’s sees nothing wrong and doesn’t see why I even had to do this . Even said doesn’t see no self harm indications on me and he’s gonna put in a good word for me

  • @demalasmith8609
    @demalasmith8609 Рік тому +1

    Okay, can I still join with gerd??? I got diagnosed with acid reflux and I was given Omeprazole. I haven't had a problem since. That was when I was 15-16, I'm 19 now and never had issue. Can I still join??

  • @haydenterry7027
    @haydenterry7027 6 днів тому

    I was on Prozac about a year ago when I was seventeen took it for about a month and that was it I want to be in the marines, could I possibly get a waiver?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  6 днів тому

      @@haydenterry7027 You may need to wait a year from now, but you should still be able to join.

    • @haydenterry7027
      @haydenterry7027 6 днів тому

      @ so should I tell my recruiter or just wait till meps my recruiter asked me if I was on any depression meds and I said no cause honestly I just didn’t think about it but then I found out about the genesis thing so know it’s freaking me out

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  6 днів тому

      @ Tell your recruiter what's up. It's in his best interest to push you through so he'll do what he needs to do. Don't accept don't worry about it as an answer.

    • @haydenterry7027
      @haydenterry7027 6 днів тому

      @@james.clydesdale thank you man I’m just worried they will just say no, and I really don’t want to wait another year I want to leave this summer

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  6 днів тому

      @ Do things by the book, wants and needs are different things. If you keep it to yourself and ship anyway you risk getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge. Protect your future man.

  • @Globelle
    @Globelle 10 місяців тому +1

    My son is trying to go in but he has put himself into rehab for marijuana

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  9 місяців тому +1

      Saw this pretty late. Drug waivers are done all the time.

  • @jcpolititalk378
    @jcpolititalk378 Рік тому +1

    What sucks about this process are the many comorbidities and misdiagnosis if you sit anywhere in the cluster b personality disorder range

  • @bundizzl
    @bundizzl Рік тому +3

    I was never seen by a therapist or a psychologist but when the meps doctor went over my medical records for Genesis they found a doctor recommenation I see a therapist so their having me evaluated

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +4

      I wouldn't worry about that. It'll be a psych consult, will probably take 30 minutes and unless you do or say something stupid, you'll be cleared.

    • @bundizzl
      @bundizzl Рік тому +2

      @@james.clydesdale alright thanks was kinda worried about it at firsy

    • @tylerslife3046
      @tylerslife3046 Рік тому

      Hey, I might be in the same boat how'd it go.

    • @nickbailey7942
      @nickbailey7942 Рік тому

      @@tylerslife3046 any update? same boat as yall

  • @mrmojorisingaming6521
    @mrmojorisingaming6521 Рік тому +1

    Hey james, how are you? Dude, great video man with good information. Im currently almost in the same situation as you and this helps me and others who are too. So i tried processing with the marines, went to meps passed everything, but when they pulled up my medical records they saw i had a head injury which i got a waiver for and MRI results. So that was taken care of but the other things were psychosis, personality and behavior things with the psychosis saying i was taking haldol to treat it. Those were misdiagnosis and i nevr had anything of that nature before. I got a letter from my manager where i work stating hes never seen or had problems with me and my behavior/personality. I got a drs note saying i dont currently take any meds. Im trying to see a psychologist for testing. Coming from your experience, do you think i could still join the marines? What else could or should i do to prove this stuff is wrong. Thank you for your service sir! God bless you!

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +1

      Sounds like you're doing everything you can man. I'd say just stay on top of it and keep your recruiter in the loop and text him asking if there's any updates. You can come to the poolee functions and stay after to ask em if there's been any update in your package. You're doing as much as you can and the foreword you have coming into this is giving you the best shot you've got. Worst I've heard happening is people getting turned away and being told to come back after a certain amount of time. Keep up with your recruiter and stay on top of it. Good luck.

    • @mrmojorisingaming6521
      @mrmojorisingaming6521 Рік тому

      ​@@james.clydesdalehey James, how long did your waiver take to get approved?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      @@mrmojorisingaming6521 Check the upload dates on my videos for exact dates, but it was something within two months IIRC.

  • @xeccs
    @xeccs Рік тому +1

    Hey man I had maniac episode 7 months ago but I was never prescribed any meds it just from weed withdraws will this affect me going to meps.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      Were you hospitalized?

    • @xeccs
      @xeccs Рік тому

      @@james.clydesdale yes and went to a mental health facility

    • @xeccs
      @xeccs Рік тому

      Everything was good after that no diagnoses or anything

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      @@xeccs How long were you hospitalized for? And did you check yourself in?

    • @xeccs
      @xeccs Рік тому

      I was hospitalized for a week and I was forced to go

  • @fallen1805
    @fallen1805 2 роки тому +3

    Hey bro I’m in the same situation , I took mushrooms and went to er due to a bad trip . I didn’t tell them I was on mushrooms and they put me on doctors notes as “suicidal ideation” due to a extreme anxiety and story of attempted “self mutilation” with a knife with no marks found.
    I voluntarily went to psych ward No 51/50 for 72 hours and left to do outpatient for like 4-5 months , they misdiagnosed me with bipolar which I am trying to amend and change ..
    Should I change anything before I submit with recruiter or just see if they can help me . I’d hate to get permanently dq so I’m a bit cautious on even getting a recruiter to help me out
    I can get clearance easy with my family psychologist if needed for bipolar thing ,
    I’m just a bit skeptical with the “suicidal ideation” on the er doctors notes . And the 1 pill prescription of anti anxiety they put me on when I was I care at ward . Which was cancels before I left

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому

      I see. As far as amending any previous records, that is impossible. All you can do is get newer, more up to date information on your current mental state. I would refrain from getting a psych evaluation on your own until MEPS asks for it, though. What I tell a lot of people is this: your records are records. You can't change them or hide them, all you can do is get to a recruiter and try to sniff out a good one. How easy that'll be depends on your branch. I suggest you present everything as it's been documented. If shrooms were never mentioned in your charts, don't mention them and go with what the charts say. Sitting with a recruiter that would be willing to hear you out would tell you what you need to look at as far as what to get for MEPS. Sort out a deal with a recruiter, then see what you can do.

    • @fallen1805
      @fallen1805 2 роки тому +1

      @@james.clydesdale I see , I actually went to medical records at my hospital and there is In fact paperwork you can fill out if you feel the doctors make a mistake on notes 📝.. for sure I was misdiagnosed so I can get that fixed first . It just sits weird with me to see my records posing as someone who was sober going in with suicidal ideation, when in reality it was due to being under the influence of a hallucinogenic that was ingested by accident at a party , hopefully I won’t get permanently disqualified. (I totally should have been honest with the er tho I was under paranoia when I tool the drug) I know the records don’t say “attempted suicide” however I read they don’t mess with suicide at all even if it’s “ideation”
      Guess I can give it a shot , so basically if I have a recruiter “pre screen” I won’t even need to get rejected by meps ? I can get all paperwork and possible waiver ahead of time ?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      @@fallen1805 I only suggest going with what's on your records because trying to do something else, like admitting to doing an illegal substance, could cause even more problems. Ideation is serious but it's not impossible to get waived. I got it waived and I went as far as gestures to suicide itself. I would go with what your gut tells you. Typically they won't even allow you to go to MEPS before they feel satisfied with your records.

    • @anthonybarr301
      @anthonybarr301 2 роки тому

      in my case I had had several panic attacks induced by weed and got prescribed anti depressants after i told my doctor, i didnt tell anyone it was due to the weed not even the doctor but it came back to bite me when i tried enlisting. currently im waiting a few months to see if i can get another waiver approved because the first one i was dq'd because it had only been like 4 months since i stopped taking them (ive been cleared by every doctor that initially prescribed me the drugs)

  • @engma9746
    @engma9746 2 роки тому +5

    Hey! I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression (single episode). Prozac medication for a year, been off meds for 3 years now. I haven't visit any psychologist or psychiatrist for 2 years. Self harm was documented by psychologist, really stupid mistake when i was a kid. And a "suicide attempt" ( i never tried any suicide attempt) i just had a suicide thought. I haven't experience any signs of anxiety or depression, in a long time. My recruiter wanted me to lie at MEPS but i dont want to (i am really bad at it) What do you think are the chances for a waiver to be approved?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +3

      Your chances of a waiver are much higher than your chances of getting away with a lie like that. Find a different recruiter or INSIST on telling the truth. Your chances are up to your honesty.

    • @engma9746
      @engma9746 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@james.clydesdale A few months ago I went to MEPS and I follow my first recruiter advice to lie. But since I did not felt right, i decide to tell the truth about another condition . After that try to talk to my recruiter to submit my psychiatric history but he did not wanted so I went to another recruiter and told him about all my medical history. He worked with my waiver and it is approved now. But when I ask him to submit my psychiatric history records he tells me now that it cannot be done since everything is clear now and i will not get a chance to join with my psychiatric history. Plus it would only bring trouble to my previous recruiter. I want to come clear to MEPS. Do you know any good (honest) recruiter? I have talk with other people in the military and they all tell me to lie.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +1

      @@engma9746 If you were already cleared at MEPS, it's a bit too late to do anything.

    • @engma9746
      @engma9746 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale i know, but still i will continue to try to find some other recruiter or some other way to come clean at MEPS. I do not want to join like this. Thank you for answering! Wish you the best of luck!

    • @jimiboi87
      @jimiboi87 Рік тому +1

      @@engma9746 be happy you get the chance to serve!

  • @deanawilson6928
    @deanawilson6928 2 роки тому +3

    Its been 7 years since my last hospitalization and ive been off medication for a year now. Would i be qualified to joing the military?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +3

      The time since you've been off meds might be a problem. I've heard of people getting waivers for meds as early as 6 months, but it truly depends on how stable you are in the present. You might have to get an evaluation at a psychiatrist though.

  • @Sophie-ph6sj
    @Sophie-ph6sj 2 роки тому +1

    I live in Texas as well. 19 with over 15 impatient/residential treatments. Do you think I would even be considered?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +1

      You'd have to be able to articulate your history as a flailing of your childish self. I have a hard time visualizing 15 counts being able to get waived. Do you mean you've checked yourself in 15 separate times?
      I'm all for people trying until they get an ultimate no, but I'm skeptical you'd be able to even get interest from a recruiter unfortunately. It's hard to articulate you're alright in the present day after one run in with any hospital treatment, let alone fifteen.

    • @Sophie-ph6sj
      @Sophie-ph6sj 2 роки тому +1

      @@james.clydesdale I mean yeah realistically I was thinking the same thing as I do have over 15 separate checkins/hospital stays. I was just wondering just a shot in the dark :3

  • @marivelruiz1243
    @marivelruiz1243 2 роки тому +3

    So when was the last time you where on the psych meds and the last time you where an in-and outpatient?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому

      All of my psych history took place between November of 2018 and February of 2019.

    • @marivelruiz1243
      @marivelruiz1243 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale where you a minor or an adult? Also what score did you get on your asvab?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +1

      @@marivelruiz1243 I was 16, so a minor. I'm skeptical whether or not you're a minor plays a factor into it though. I got an 89 on the ASVAB.

  • @tiffanydesjardins8820
    @tiffanydesjardins8820 4 місяці тому

    Did you get the pre-approval to go to MEPS and then they said you needed waivers? Were you able to join?

  • @toohighfor_cod4881
    @toohighfor_cod4881 Рік тому

    If i was diagnosed with bi polar a few years back but ive been off meds for awhile and my dr. And I have talked about it. I wanna join the army, do yall think its gonna be possible to get in?

  • @justinharbison2172
    @justinharbison2172 Рік тому

    Has anyone been 51/50 and been able to enlist? Currently debating on enlisting but I was 51/50 4 years ago due to drinking, I was let go after the 3 day period and was never court ordered or diagnosed with anything, that's my only ever mental health issue.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      There are people that have asked about that before, not sure where they are in the process. I would go straight to a recruiter and tell them about this, as this is very different from a court ordered involuntary hold.

  • @angelvazquez7970
    @angelvazquez7970 2 роки тому +8

    Just did paperwork with my recruiter today. Told him that I’m currently seeking therapy and that I had been diagnosed with anxiety/depression & that I’ve been off medication since 2020. I’m planning on joining the Marine corps reserves but I’m also considering other branches. Will I still be qualified if I can get a waiver?
    Edit : I’m now a Poolee and I can’t wait to experience how the Marine Corps will be like!

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      Try to stick to one branch for your process. Different branches have different standards. Avoid further counseling altogether unless expressly used to show you are in good mental health in the current day.

  • @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565
    @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565 2 роки тому +1

    What does the psych eval consist of? Have one for adderall prescription from high school (am 23 now). If I pass I swear in

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому

      Typically you have to get interviewed by a psychiatrist. Preferably one that diagnosed you with anything in the past; but any willing psychiatrist will do. They evaluate you and then write a letter of clearance in your favor if they see your mannerisms to be inconsistent with any prior diagnoses.

    • @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565
      @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale my psych eval is at meps. I’ve passed my physical and all of that already. Got 85 on asvab. But got dq’d for the meds they saw on my medical history. I got a waiver. Last step now is a psych evaluation. I’m just a normal guy who’s parents wanted me to be on meds for better grades and the meps doctor who did my physical said he sees no issues with me but due to genesis showing the meds I need a waiver and there’s no way around it. 3 letters of rec and a whole lot more later now I go back for a psych eval at meps and if I pass I swear in that day. I’m just curious was to expect with this evaluation?? It’s right after the holidays.

    • @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565
      @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale how lengthy it will be? What type of questions will they be asking? How should I prepare?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +2

      @@awwwwyeeeeeaa2565 Ohh. That would be a psych consult. It varies. Some people have super in-depth consults that can last the entire day up to the oath. Some people have a 30 minute chat. Chances are if you made it to a consult you'll make it in just fine; I advise you answer your questions by thinking in the third person before answering them. Remember: That examination will be the last thing standing between you and basic training, so it's in your best interest to answer as self-preserving as possible. I'm not telling you to lie: I'm telling you to think carefully before you speak, because if they can twist your words they will. So be very deliberate in your word choice. Failing now would be like dropping the baton at the end of a relay race.

    • @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565
      @awwwwyeeeeeaa2565 2 роки тому

      @@james.clydesdale how do you even fail that? What kinds of questions will be asked of me? I’m sure I’ll be fine but preparing will be key as I do not want to drop the baton at the end of race.

  • @stinkygecko1167
    @stinkygecko1167 Рік тому

    The eating disorder treatment i went to 5 years ago, freshly 18, is permanently closed.....im not sure if this will be a blessing or a pain in the butt.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +1

      There's a process for everything. Most of them are easier than you would expect. Nobody is gonna expect you to conjure up anything: you can only do what's possible. CVS didn't keep track of medicine that was issued to me 4 years ago, I just had to provide a statement saying I'm not lying. You'll probably have to do something similar. You'll only be made to mention anything that has some medication attached to it, they wanna know the whys and how's of any medication you took. Eating disorders are tough, glad you can come back from something like that. Fight for your ability to serve: you got this.

    • @stinkygecko1167
      @stinkygecko1167 Рік тому

      @james.clydesdale thank you for the words of encouragement! I'm meeting with a navy recruiter in the morning, then the air force recruiter. Walking in with all my documents in hand to get the ball rolling as soon as possible.

    • @stinkygecko1167
      @stinkygecko1167 Рік тому

      @james.clydesdale spoke to navy recruiter today, I had all of my stuff prepared and was honest about the mental health stuff!!! Recruiter seemed very nice and eager to help me, and I'm going back tomorrow to do a practice Asvab

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +1

      @@stinkygecko1167 Hey sounds good. Just be aware that if the Navy wasn't your first choice you don't have to go with any specific branch. There's a lot of misconception that you must go Navy if you have any issues of this nature, a lot of people don't even try with their branch of choice and I see that a lot. If you want to go Navy, I'm glad for you. If you resorted to it because you expected it to be easier, I suggest you change course.

    • @stinkygecko1167
      @stinkygecko1167 Рік тому

      @james.clydesdale I'm seeing an air force recruiter after the asvab practice, and I want to speak to a coast guard recruiter as well but they are out of state so I will have to plan it out.

  • @lixy9796
    @lixy9796 2 роки тому +3

    Hey! Would it be possible to get in contact with you somehow? through DM or discord or anything? I have a similar situation but I havent reached out to a recruiter yet! I would like to talk to you to get some opinions!

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +1

      Sure thing. I just graduated boot camp today so I apologize for the very late reply, but if you're still looking for answers, feel free to reply.

  • @Croftty
    @Croftty Рік тому +2

    i’m doing everything i need to i’m going in i will not fuck this up

  • @TOONNKK
    @TOONNKK Рік тому

    hi ive been struggling tryn to find a psychist to do eval who did yours ???

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      Look for telemedicine services. I wouldn't recommend mine, but I went through a company called ThriveWorks. I'm not sure they provide that service anymore.

    • @TOONNKK
      @TOONNKK Рік тому

      @@james.clydesdale and do i just ask for a clearance letter ?? can you tell me what i ask for when i call i feel like im not asking for the right thing. thank you

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      @@TOONNKK Before you get to asking for clearance, I suggest you speak to a recruiter first and get to that issue when it comes up. Bring up your mental history as one of your first concerns.

  • @Gigrunt887
    @Gigrunt887 7 місяців тому

    Semper fi brother going on the internet I can't find nothing

  • @battlechampnik
    @battlechampnik 2 роки тому +3

    Can you hook me up with your recruiter?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +1

      Merry Christmas! Most recruiters will only be able to work with you if you live nearby. My recruiter told me a story of someone who moved to the North Austin area specifically for waivers though. My recruiter's name is Sergeant Kelly with RSS North Austin in Texas.

  • @jackmercer4244
    @jackmercer4244 Рік тому +3

    you shoulda just lied your ass off to make it easier for your recruiters and it would less chances you get rejected. The worse that can happen is they find out in bootcamp or the fleet and you get rejected, but they are so stealth that they would just sweep everything under the carpet.

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому +2

      Just seeing this, anyone who sees this and assumes this still flies, it doesn't. If you have a psych record it will get picked up on at MEPS these days, Genesis has the ability to go into your medical record and they will question you based on those findings. This may have worked back in the day, but it doesn't work anymore.

    • @jackmercer4244
      @jackmercer4244 Рік тому

      @@james.clydesdale You shouldn't have gone to a psychiatrist in the first place. Psychiatry is BS, it's all about selling expensive unproven drugs and psychological experiments for mind control, it's not about mental health. The same with Anthrax vaccine. I was committed to a mental hospital and injected with risperidone which is a horrible drug. It made me insane and side effects like tardive dyskinesia made my face look retarded and old. I was so worried that it would be permanent. But I bounced back like a Champ!
      I read somewhere that the USMC started using risperidone in the mid 90's, which was when I enlisted.
      Are you lgbtq?

  • @raevonteasley9612
    @raevonteasley9612 2 роки тому +3

    I’m trying join the military but got schizophrenia and on medication

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie 2 роки тому +5

      You won’t be able join that’s permanently disqualified with no waiver

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  2 роки тому +6

      As another commenter said, it's highly unlikely you'd be able to join with schizophrenia especially if you're actively on medication. It's pretty black and white as far as that goes, unfortunately.

    • @timothyhaye370
      @timothyhaye370 Рік тому

      How long did you wait to get a reply

    • @VictoriousOvercomer-v6o
      @VictoriousOvercomer-v6o Рік тому

      What if you was brought to the er for suicidal but wasn’t admitted can that dis qualify you

    • @8191-m8t
      @8191-m8t Рік тому

      ​@@james.clydesdaleWhat if you have autism and aphenthyesiac ..?

  • @gavinmark2996
    @gavinmark2996 Рік тому +1

    Hi James, I was wondering if I could message you about my situation and get your input on it? Do you have insta or WhatsApp or something?

    • @james.clydesdale
      @james.clydesdale  Рік тому

      Yes! Check the description of my videos or channel for my Instagram.