What Do Celibates Do With Their Sexual Urge?
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- Christopher and Matt delve into the complexities of the sexual urge, its deeper implications, and its relationship to human existence. We explore the broader concept of Eros, the call to self-giving, and how celibacy channels sexual desire in unique ways. Join us as we discuss perspectives from Theology of the Body and consider the eternal significance of self-giving beyond physical union.
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If you want to have a spiritual life with your spouse, periodic abstinence is really effective. If only people would realize how healthy this is. Intimacy without sex can really do a lot in a relationship.
If you are single then it's a given that you are a celibate. Don't make the same mistake of what I did over the years doing things that are not intended by God for us. Sex isn't the goal here. It's being in a relationship that will give meaning in our lives.
Being a celibate right now means I can pursue God by being obedient and aligning myself with what is intended for me which is my calling for marriage. I'm so blessed to had been given this wisdom.
I agree. I am willing to be intimate with a woman emotionally and other ways besides sex one day. I just haven’t found that person yet and have been accepted yet.
Amen. I think I actually want the sexless intimacy more. That might be bc I currently have a slightly skewed view of sex. But one day I will marry and that view will be resurrected. That’s going to be cool
Yes I am celibate, I am celibacy, until marriage. I'm 22 dont know how long I'll be virgin but I do think and emotionally feel more excited for sexuality to marriage rather than taking as much female virginity as much as I can, or a woman do such sin, I'm virgin until I find the woman who is righteous to never bend to evil, I need her as conservative as politically and physically, spiritually as possible therefore morally. I know spiritually every other aspect comes after this, she will most likely be Asian I don't find much attraction to my own ethcnity since they're less conservative but we have Hispania world who are Asians too since we're related, God I hope I pray much and God destines me to meet my wife in a mysterious way because I don't know where I'll find her. My brain is fried from much sexual sin which is obvious I'm trying not to exist as the curiously sinning person by telling details because we know it's the portal of hell in our pockets digitally and magazines paper, I got fired of not having enough testosterone, so I stopped , I'm 22 I don't think my testicles male body will produce as much testosterone, it's only been week since I decided to stop. I feel better already but I know if don't pray to God to help me persevere I won't get past this, I feel as though I'm running on my own power and eventually I will run out so I need to get to work through prayer and fasting. Thanks God bless I hope young males at large every male would stop destroying their body in every part and brain especially Christians since we recognize it's evil and sadism to beat our self more than Satan doesn't need to kill us, a shame.
What's one thing you can do in a marriage that you shouldnt or can't do in a friendship? Sex in a marriage is a fundamental foundation of of it.
- You certainly can have a spiritual life outside of marriage, but not a sexual one.
Chasity for unmarried men and women of all ages is the optimum state
Its so freeing and no pressure and allows you to submit your will to God completetly so you can actually love others as yourself
ever tried it? No pressure is not how I would put it...porn and sex literally everywhere these days...but it is an eschatological sign...
@@glennlanham6309 doing it now days- I wished there had been solid classes regarding this, Instead there was unbelievable stigma on teenagers when I was that age to have sex- from media, other teenagers( if you didn't then you must be gay) and just everybody's example of having sex out of wedlock- Don't get me wrong, I was to blame also for letting lust develope and slipping away from the Church.
Decades later here is Christopher West with his " don't just look away" video. Huge, huge help there. Watch it several times if you are in chains to lust.
Lust is within the mind first and foremost. It can be shut off properly and then thank God for revealing the Theology of the body for letting us know yes He created us the way we are however it's not appropriate with someone you aren't united in Holy matrimony with.
Takes a lot of prayer also because those images will creep back in to your Psyche and you will get dreams sometimes also- the enemy knows our weakness and for that I suggest a daily routine of prayers from Auxialium Christinourm( spelled it wrong)
Our minds have been misprogrammed if you are doing porn and sleeping around outside of marriage. Reprogram yourself with this prayer prescription and don't forget confession first
Oh and Father Rippenger's videos are a must if you are a sex addict and can't stop. Because that's what it is.
Pride made me think unless I was willing to go all the way then someone else would get the woman.
Lies lies all lies
I love God now first and foremost
Loving myself and others for Him does not include having sex with them outside of marriage
Just a suggestion...perhaps actually getting a celibate person like a priest to speak on this topic may be more feasible. It may be a bit disconnected for two married men to speak on how a celibate person handles their sexual urges. Understanding it is one thing but hearing from the horses mouth how its lived out is different- Sincerely, A catholic seminarian
I agree it could be helpful to have a priest or nun discuss this as well, but married people also go through periods of celibacy. This is something we need to tell young men and women prior to marriage so they are properly prepared and ready to handle those times.
Thats what I thought as well. Matt married at a young age. Not sure about Christopher.
I agree. Or even a lay person going through day to day life
I've been celibate/chaste for 2 years. I feel excitement sometimes when Im' looking at something sexy. There is something called custody of the eyes...it means that I look away from what leads me astray. I've also had sexual dreams sometimes. I wake up and see it for what it is. It's not a sin. I am not acting on it and I'm not dwelling on it. I see it as my brain processing my need for intimacy. I was married before (annulled now), so I remember good sex but it wasn't satisfying spiritually because we weren't aligned in emotional/spiritual intimacy. Really, when you don't make sex the centre of your life and truly mature spiritually, it gets easier over time. My body has responses and desires that I maintain control over and wow, if I knew a man like this, I would imagine he'd be the best husband/lover ever. A man in control...wow, that would blow my mind. I pray one day that might happen. Meanwhile, I focus on prayer and my heavenly spouse, Lord Jesus Christ.
Thank you for the feedback!
I just had a realization as I was considering making snide and snarky comments about this video. Sex isn't what I want. It is only a means to what I actually want. Some of the things I want from it include enjoyment, relaxation, stress relief, intimacy with another, the desire to give of myself, and many other things, including simple relief from a certain burning feeling. But with all of these things, sex is only a means to the end. If I can fulfill all the goals I'm looking for through sex in another way, I can go without sex, because I just won't feel the need for it anymore. I think the reason it's so difficult to think of going without completely is because I've let myself be influenced by societal influences to think of sex itself as what is necessary, that sex is the only way to satisfy my actual desires, and I've gotten in the habit of satisfying my actual desires through sexual behaviors so much that I can't imagine fulfilling my actual desires in any other way. But that doesn't mean sex is what I want. It only means I have habits to break and beliefs to undo, and could use to learn some other ways of taking care of myself.
It also doesn't mean I can never have a partner. But it does mean I need to get my own metaphorical house in order before I try to join it to another house.
Amen! I’m with you 100%, brother
I am not sure if I already shared with you, since I have said this in TotBI comment sections before. But I’ll say it again, in case this below offers some additional helpful insight for people...
One thing which helped me significantly in my faith journey was noticing how many people, within both secular and Christian cultures (including Catholic spokesmen), seem to all be misdefining the sexual appetite in the same way. Normally, people just define it as an urge for s. activity/climax. However, if people were asked to define what hunger and thirst are, nobody would merely define it as an urge to chew on and swallow tasty things. They would instead define hunger and thirst as the urge to nourish one’s body with water/calories/nutrients, through acts eating and drinking. The true gratification of the appetite does not occur until the food/drink is finally absorbed into the body, after that tasty intermediate step of eating/drinking.
Similar to what they say in this video, I would define the s. appetite as the yearning to initiate and continuously nourish a lifelong and potentially fruitful bond with a mate/spouse, through acts of s. intercourse. Besides the potential for babies, it has been observed that humans release similar hormonal cocktails during that process, as those which promote pair-bonding when monogamous animal species mate. The s. activity/climax is just the “tasty” intermediate step. Besides how lust treats other human beings merely as “food” to self-seekingly consume, it is also associated with activities which do not even provide actual gratification in the first place. For both the food appetite and the s. appetite, it can be harmful to conflate experiencing the same “taste” of the gratifying substance versus actually giving oneself the gratifying substance.
In the long run, one could argue that trying to satisfy one’s s. yearnings with “solo-m@$turb@t!0n” and/or “qorn” is like trying to satisfy a sweet-tooth craving respectively with zero-calorie sweeteners and/or toxic lead acetate. They may mimic the same “taste” as marital intimacy’s sugar. But they do not actually satisfy the underlying the desire in the long run (not to mention the respective side-effects/poisonings that can potentially occur, when the body expects to receive sugar yet doesn’t actually absorb it and gets confused). Finally, trying to find additional gratification with multiple s. partners and one-night-stands is like trying to gain many times the hunger satisfaction, by repeatedly binging-and-purging until one has had multiple dinners in one evening (granted a person who has been treated like food to be eaten and then regurgitated is still a child of God and NOT “spoiled goods” in his eyes).
@@markcobuzzi826 that was really helpful! Thank you so much!
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Trying to figure that one out..anyone else notice the irony of 2 married men talking this over?
Hilarious that you chose to present this topic with a discussion between two married men. We need witnesses, not reporters.
Sir married men very often must go through periods of celibacy. We do not prepare young men for this fact.
@@ladysnowsno point in getting married then
@@jmz2144 That's the center of your life?
@@jmz2144you think the point of marriage is just to have sex? How naive.
Marriage requires many periods of abstinence. Sickness, pregnancy, postpartum, etc can all require abstinence. NFP itself requires abstinence
@@jmz2144 Catholic marriage isn't about getting off whenever you want it. It's about the Theology of the Body.
There's real intimacy found in other ways. It's actually profound
I’ll save you the time. He completely dodged the question with philosophical mumbo jumbo.
You nailed it. This is the Roman Catholic method of answering all their absurd practices and notions.
As a man who is strongly considering returning to major seminary to resume formation, I really appreciate your video on this topic, and take great benefit from your dialogue and discussion with one another about it. Although neither of you are celibate in itself, I certainly wasn't put-off tuning-in, as you both have such great knowledge, experience, and intellects capable of bringing-out the best in one another as was the case in my view here (Proverbs 27:17 , almost!? ;) ). - this was more than enough for me to take good benefit!
I really like how Matt's focused questions and clarifications help to clarify and get the best out of Chris's deep and rich ToB insights, and how Chris's beautiful pictures prompt further discovery and additional questions & observations for Matt to share back.
Thanks, and best wishes from Ireland,
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Saint Faustina said her biggest wish is to unite herself and her will with Jesus. I believe mystical or supernatural union in faith or becoming into Christ will fullfill every need because he is The Flame of Love :)
John Pauls book love and responsibility isa great book on human sexuality and love .
This video’s general topic reminds me of a thought experiment I once pondered. I tried to figure out whether the Virgin Mary had the same capacity for physical yearnings and, if so, how it could still be a blessing in light of her call to perpetual virginity. These below were my observations…
1.) Because the appetite for physical intimacy was part of Adam and Eve from the very beginning and not a product of the Fall, it would only be natural for “New Eve” to possess it too. However, any such desires that Mary potentially possessed would have been untainted by sin, per Catholicism’s doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. So it would have been perfectly aligned with God’s will and not have had vices/disorders like Lust mixed in.
2.) Although Mary’s calling was to perpetual virginity as the mother of Jesus, Mary still had free will. I heard Trent Horn arguing that the Immaculate Conception was also important for ensuring Mary could consent to such a mission, without having her mind clouded by disordered desires or a fear that God would be displeased should she say “no”. If God wanted Mary to choose this mission freely, then I imagine it was important for God to still give Mary the ability to recognize and appreciate the beauty and joys of a more typical marriage, so she is not just choosing perpetual virginity out of being denied knowledge of the alternatives.
3.) Even after Mary made to choice to serve God as a perpetual virgin, I imagine having the capacity for such yearnings could still serve a purpose, similarly to how anyone called to a celibate vocation can still respond to their desires in a way that helps others and glorifies God. For example, Mary could have chastely recognized the physically attractive beauty of the men around her, recognized the beauty of the full person from there, then further oriented her mind towards appreciative the Creator behind such beauty. Also, for all I know, Mary could have had chances to counsel other woman about their romantic yearnings by drawing from her own experiences, while also expressing happiness for and encouragement towards any particular woman who would be called to “know” a particular man.
Part of what the physical virginity of Mary symbolizes is the virginity of the heart, which, in turn, is a sign of a heart (her whole being starting from the depths of her soul) is fully given back to God and belonging solely to Him.
That's what her perpetual virginity is about, that's what it serves for - to be wholly directed at and united with no one and nothing else but God.
Which means, all her wants, desires, everything, physical and spiritual, are all perfectly and orderly directed at God and God alone, and aligned to His Will.
She also possessed the fullness of virtues, and that also includes (among the plethora of others such as charity and purity) the virtue of temperance, etc.
And, being immaculately conceived, had no concupiscence.
It's a blessing to remain celibate for the Lord. It brings so much inner peace and joy when you have your sexual urges under control.
Are you kidding me?
@@amandadelassus2128 celibacy is the ideal for all, but most aren't called to it.
Don't we just want to "get off" sometimes? It's a natural urge.
Its burning now
If l were a religious man l would also appreciate the talk. Therefore let us not focus on the fact that its being given by two married men because they too are sexual beings and are not against God or the teachings of the Mother Church. I pray that the good Lord softens the heart of many so we may all repent and avoid occasions of sin so we may see God and live with Him. For only the Pure shall see God❤
When one understands the aim of something it becomes logic and one prays for Grace. As a single mother, l know what it is l long for and desire. However, it is not the will of God that l enjoy the comforts of a married woman. As such l am celibate. It does not mean that l have turned the switches off. It simply means l continuously pray for this Grace and. Since God does not give Grace without reason: l then have a responsibility to avoid occasions of sin. Then hand in hand, side by side l cooperate with God. [My little drop of water , in the Eucharistic wine] one still needs to cooperate with God. Circumstances in marriage can mean that celibacy is required, a form of abstinence equally requiring a Grace and cooperation from the individual. So since we are all sexual beings we can all contribute and participate in this discussion. If l were a nun l would appreciate the talk.
When I first looked at the title I thought it said celebrities 😂
we KNOW what they do with it
Hello Christopher, first of all thank you very much for your work. It really brought my faith life and experience to the next level.
I have a question/request I want to ask you. Could you comment on the new Mary Statue which was recently published in the Cathedral of Linz, Austria? It is a statue of Mary giving birth to Christ. But like actually giving birth. Legs open, I even think you can see the head of the child coming out and all of that.
I would be really thankful if you could leave a respond or even make a response video to it. I would really like to know what an expert on the topic TOB would say to this. I had some discussions with some other catholics about it. Most of them tool the position that the statue is blashphemious, a disrespect to Mary and so on. I, and I was the only one, thought that, eventhough the statue is somewhat scandulous, it still has some very profound theological thruths. Being witness of the incarnation ond so forth.
Overall I would really love to know what your thoughts are as an expert. I would be very thankful.
To not consider the reality of the birth is what is truly blasphemous
It is blasphemous because it showcases what ought to be covered and veiled.
People nowydays have no sense of privacy, modesty, shame of the display of the naked body, and it shows in the contemporary art.
All is material (about physical and biological aspects), none is spiritual.
Even God protected Mary's virginity in a miraculous way during Christ's birth, as "a light coming through the glass," as the Church Fathers wrote.
Mary is like a veiled tabernacle of the Lord.
You might say - but it's all natural, birth is natural. So is the marital sexual act, yet watching an explicit recording of a married couple would be as sinful, as watching any other explicit 'adult' content.
There's a veil of intimacy, privacy, sacredness, that ought to be covering the intimate acts of love, or, of giving birth.
Would you be ok with publishing a photo of your mother while giving birth to you?
And when we're talking about Our Blessed Mother, we owe her our deepest respect!
What's next, showcasing in physical details the holy conception of Mary?... There's no shame in the world anymore and no sense of blasphemy 😢.
One more point to add to my previous comment.
Mary's body and nakedness is only for God to be seen, only for His eyes, not for any other person! That's also what her virginity represents - she belongs to God alone.
Just like wife's or husband body is for their spouse to see, but you don't walk naked around the city for everyone to see. (Which in our day of immodesty is a disappearing concept).
I remember watching once a video of a nun, talking about her head veil. She said it also becomes symbolically that her hair is not for anyone else to see, but it belongs to God and God only.
I am failing to see how sexual desire is only for others. Im a dude, I have sexual desire to get off in the morning. It has nothing to do with "others" or lusting or anything other than bodily desire.
To clarify, I don't as I gave that to God a while ago.
Hold that thought, what do married people do with them?
Is this what Jesus meant when he said to give into marriage whom you will: "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."?
Se xual urge can sometimes mean se xual drive, which is not wrong. But
se xual desire for a non-biblical relationship is coveting, which is condemned in the Bible as sin.
Catholic theology doesn't seem to recognize the seriousness of that detail.
This leads to Side B theology, which is not biblical.
Side Y is the way.
What a very silly question. What do those in recovery for substances do for cravings? What do gamblers, food addicts, spending/shopping addicts do with urges? When will we learn we are powerless, and only if we place our trust in a Power greater than ourselves, these issues only demonstrate our true mission in life? Addiction is only a metaphor for the common, dull of wit man.
Is it normal that I don't experience those urges?
Probably means you are one of the rare few called to singleness like St Paul if you don’t have any kind of desire for sex at all. I would discern further for the priesthood, religious life, or just single life.
In my case, I always had a problem controlling the sexual urges leading me to lust, pornography, masturbation, and sin. I fall under the “it is better to marry than to burn with passion” category as Paul discussed yet I am having a hard time finding someone while still sinking into deep sin at times from the urges. In the meantime I am trying pray the desire away and exercise self control but I’m getting feedback by learning self control from God but not the total loss of the desire hence the married vocation is my life calling.
I had a real struggle with this. I've been married for nearly ten years: it took the first five to fully work through it (thank God for patient husbands).
In my case, what finally healed my sexuality was tracing it back to some secondhand trauma I'd received when I was younger (grandpa was a pervert, and mom told me more than she should have). Sex was something bad that you shouldn't think about, that was scary, and that hurt people. Getting assaulted in college by a man I considered a mentor didn't help matters.
So...yes, it may be pointing to something wrong or some past wound (not necessarily being assaulted but maybe some attitude that was passed down to you) that you need to work through. But you're not the only person to have gone through this.
@@Justyouraverageguy172 Dude, you are not going to last long in marriage if you view your wife as a release valve. Dying to your desires is pretty central to marriage, and abstaining from sex for the good of your wife WILL have to happen at some point.
Case in point, a woman is medically forbidden from having sex for six weeks after she's given birth. Or maybe she gets really sick: my brother and his wife have had to abstain for months at a time as she goes through treatment for her leukemia (having sex could literally kill her).
She's also not going to be willing to have sex with you or enjoy it if she doesn't feel loved. She's going to know if you're using her. St. Paul also said that husbands should love their wives as Christ loves the Church; painful death to self is definitely involved.
I'm sorry you're struggling and suffering. But marriage is not going to be the escape you think it is.
You are blessed. Even more if youre a virgin. GOD is protecting you from a lot of trouble.
@@Justyouraverageguy172i have such issues but i dont feel called to marriage. I dont think anyone can fullfill me or love me and i probably cannot do that for someone else. I tried and failed. Im quite done.
The Anglican pastor that I met said Catholic's pastor's celibacy is not biblical. Even St. Peter had a mother in law which means he was married. What is the rebuttal?
I've heard that priests are allowed to get married, but have chosen not to do so, throughout the centuries, so that they can fully give themselves to the Church (the Bride of Christ) in the Person of Christ.
When you say, “it’s not biblical”, do you mean it’s contrary to Holy Scripture? Or it’s just not found in Scripture?
I mean, Eastern Rite Priests do get married if I remember correctly.
@@t-06 this is correct. I go to an eastern rite Catholic Church and our priest is marred.
@t-06 True, but that stems from the Eastern tradition they've maintained in that part of the world. And it still has rules to it - an unmarried man who gets ordained cannot later get married, nor can one who is married and then gets ordained get remarried should his wife pass away.
Funny, when I’m complaining about TOB I usually parody it by saying something like his toenail claim.
With grace and a life of prayer urges get sublimated. It becomes God's work.
And purported celibates compensate in all kinds of ways!
@@RPlavo And purported married people have a loose interpretation of fidelity. What is your point?
So some Americans have committed murder, do we conclude that all Americans are murderers?
Of course not.
As I said with grace and a life of prayer sexual urges get sublimated.
Kindly and intelligently respond to that statement.
Because I have experienced this to be true in my life.
I will try to be kind and intelligent. Being active in parishes in all kinds of ways for many years I have seen priests contend with this by drinking, lashing out, traveling , gambling, over-eating, maybe even more and I don’t think any esoteric theology is going to help much. What do they do for love and affection, which Someone (!) put into us? God made us a certain way, but, now then, don’t……..
@@RPlavo I, too, have much experience in parish life.
At 21 I joined a Benedictine Monastery. At 25 I entered Seminary. I have lived with priests, spent time in presbyteries and have many good priest friends.
All my priest friends are very stable and content.
As for the cases you mention, I don't doubt what you are saying. But such cases exist in marriages. Being able to have sex with a spouse does not free you from all these issues. Some of the loneliest people are married.
We are fallen beings.
I can tell you as someone who is very well connected with clergy that a lot of the men entering seminaries already come with heavy baggage.
The Orthodox churches also have their problems and their clergy can marry.
My Romanian Orthodox priest friend is going through a divorce right now. They have a child.
Celibacy is not the problem.
There is one thing that a lot of people have not considered and you don't hear the laity talking about it.
Married priests are a COLOSSAL headache for bishops. The kids need a home. You can't move a married priest, his wife and children so easily.
I am British. I know this from my connections. Former Anglicans who became Catholics and were ordained now present huge problems for their bishops. The kids are settled. They go to the local school. They have friends. The wife has a job. You can't upend their lives. That leaves bishops with a big problem. They have to leave those priests in their parishes for many years.
Also, married priests aren't so easy to rely on, esp for those 3am Hospital calls.
My extensive experience of priests shows that celibacy is definitely not a problem. Fallen, sinful nature is the problem.
The answer to the problems you mention is not one. It is a case by case thing.
Many need to deepen their prayer lives.
Some work too hard and end up stressed.
Some have unresolved issues, even stemming back to their own childhoods.
I have known of priests with addictions etc. They entered seminary with those issues and were never dealt with. They just carried their problems into the presbytery.
Please don't think I am down playing what you have said or the experiences you speak of. I am not out to belittle you or anyone.
But I can categorically assure you that abolishing celibacy will not solve those issues. Facing them is what will resolve them.
I can also assure you from personal experience in my own life and journey that a deep, peace filled graceful chaste celibacy is definitely real and possible.
God bless you.
What do losers do with all their winnings. What do poor people do with all their money.
I'm trying to become Celibate help me please 😢 ok
So the topic's about celibacy and half of the talk they're talking about the physical intimate act, and even mentioning the private parts, etc. 🤔
I respect both speakers and their knowledge, however, dear Christopher, you sometimes go too much into details in regards to the physical act, and less into the spiritual side. I understand for married people the physical pleasure is the gateway to imagining the spiritual intimacy, but it's not the case for celibates.
Rather, it's going directly to that spiritual intimacy, which - in turn - will also encompass the body (in a non-sexual way, but rather in a way of pure love, sacrifice, and deep peace - a 'passionless passion' as some say).
I'm sorry to say that I do not find the above conversation convincing. They should be explaining the Christian Spirituality of sexual self control and then giving instruction on specific strategies for sexual control that are consistent with this spirituality. This would help single people more than this waffle.
So many priests obviously fail to understand what these guys are talking about!
I also found it strange that while the question is about the celibates, half of the clip is about describing the pleasures of the marital act and mentioning the private body parts. A bit too graphic, and not really helpful.
And the spirituality of the celibate person is therefore different - we don't use the pleasure of a marital act as a gateway to imagine what the physical act is aimed to symbolize, that is the spiritual union with God.
Instead, we go there directly, but through the 'passionless passion', a sublimation of a physical desire also with a special graces of spiritual intimacy with God, that is unlike anything else in the world.
On a practical level, and it's what the saints have always taught as well, the prayer life, penance, and mortification (in a sense of things like fasting, or not indulging, having a self-discipline, self-denial, etc.) are needed to guard the purity and chastity.
@joane24 Well I suggest you don't read Saint Augustin and his unleashed imagination about sex before the fall...
@@Spoutnik I don't understand what you argument is. What point of mine are you referring to and what are you trying to say? Augustine isn't the only Church Father, why would you mention him specifically? It's also well known he had issues with (his own) sexuality. Don't see what the relevance here is.
Why does it sound like you're saying that all the pastoral care of a celibate priest emanates from his "eros" or his "sexual urge?" Are people supposed to be happy that their children are benefitting from their priest's "sexual urge?"
Hello! Thank you for your honest comment. Eros refers to "the upward impulse of the human heart towards what is True, Good and Beautiful.
@@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute I guess I was just a little confused when you say "Celibacy for the Kingdom is not a rejection of sexual desire but a channeling of it in a different direction." I realize now that probably meant "in the direction of heaven," but that probably should be made more explicit.
Complete contradiction but who needs explanations.
There is no spiritual vocation without celibacy. This urge is transformed mysticaly and how it happens has to be known to those who have spiritual vocation. If priest or nun proclaims this should be given up and lost in Catholic Church, it ither means they do not have spiritual vocation or they are not able to live that vocation properly, which is the same. 🙌🏼
Sorta agree. Just know that celibacy is a discipline, so it can be changed. Plus, most Eastern Catholic priests are not celibate and seem to showcase just as much, if not more, holiness than celibate priests. As to religious sisters, virgins, etc., your argument would apply moreso.
Nope, this is the delusion that the church deceives you. All humans have sexual desires, and nothing can be done to change that except expressing it. There’s nothing bad about that, it’s the nature of God’s creation.
@@mram03 Eastern Bishops are also celibate.
I suppose for me I don’t get it because when life is stressful, sex isn’t a crutch or a desire anyway-I’m barely surviving. Im thanking God everyday for the gas in our pickup, the food on the table, and that we are blessed to have children. I’m also pregnant, so hormonally I don’t really have much of an “urge” anyway.
If you have sexual urges, you are not "called to be celibate."
10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others-and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
@@glennlanham6309 What?
@@jamesg3808 This post is flat stupid. Everyone has sexual urges, celibate or not.
@@jamesg3808 basically, I was just saying everyone has sexual urges...doesn't go away because you put on a cassock or a habit
I have SSA so it’s imperative that I’m chaste. I do have sexual urges that hits like a freight train at times.
Hilarious rubbish
It makes me laugh imagining people continually climaxing in Heaven (perhaps). 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
sounds like a lot of nonsense
Yes. Unfortunately Matt is consistently aggreing throughout the video
Esa palabra no deberia existir ...es un tema aberrante para la humanidad.